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A laser installed on a US Navy landing ship hits a naval target in the Gulf of Aden

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The US Navy conducted another laser test weaponsinstalled on the ship. According to the command of the Fifth fleet The US Navy on its Twitter page, the American transport dock ship LPD-27 USS Portland took part in the tests.


USS Portland (LPD 27) in the Gulf of Aden reportedly demonstrated a high-energy laser weapon system. Tests were carried out on December 14, the laser successfully hit a naval target. Other details of the past demonstration are not provided.

Note that this is not the first laser weapon test carried out from the USS Portland landing ship. At the end of 2019, the press service of the US Navy announced the launch of the ship for testing laser weapons installed on board. It was reported that a combat laser installation with a generation power of about 150 kW, called TLM, which stands for "tactical laser module", was installed on the ship.

It is assumed that the power of 150 kW is enough to destroy the laser beam of small boats, ships and boats, as well as some low-speed air targets, including drones.

In May 2020, the ship participated in the next tests of laser weapons, which took place in the Pacific Ocean near the Pearl Harbor naval base. The laser installation installed on the ship successfully hit the flying drone.

Initially, the arsenal of the LPD-27 USS Portland transport dock included two Mk44 Bushmaster II gun mounts, two Mk 41 missile launchers and M2 Browning machine gun mounts.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 December 2021 18: 29
    +3
    Sailors who went by the Gulf of Aden, there are no fogs. Why tests of lasers only in this area. And at Medvezhka in Barentsukh in winter, you can light a laser from this laser, or a lighter from Gazprom is more reliable.
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 15 December 2021 18: 49
      -3
      The pirates must be scared ...
      Seagull target? Hit the target, such a vague definition
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 15 December 2021 23: 17
        +9
        Quote: Mitroha
        Seagull target? Hit the target, such a vague definition

        And when they write that Zircon hit the target, but don't show it, does that suit you? Or...
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 16 December 2021 06: 49
          0
          And when they write that Zircon hit the target, but don't show it, does that suit you? Or...

          I'm actually talking about the "power" of this thing. Hence the words about the seagull. It can also be called a goal.
          What did you want to convey with your passage?
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 16 December 2021 09: 04
            +3
            Quote: Mitroha
            It can also be called a goal.

            There are many things that can be called a goal. Even if you shoot into the ocean, you get an allusion to Xerxes, who ordered to carve the sea.
            And I wanted to convey the fact that all tests without showing the hit target are not very informative.
        2. just exp
          just exp 17 December 2021 07: 54
          0
          the Zircon warhead weighs 450kg and everyone who wants to know what effect a 450kg warhead creates on the target.
          but here with xs lasers, because there is nothing besides the figure of 150 kW, and the laser does not TNT, there are losses depending on the range, and the effect of the beam still depends on the target material. that is, what kind of destruction this ray brings, even Pinocchio does not know.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 17 December 2021 11: 44
            +1
            Quote: just explo
            everyone who wants to know what impact on the target creates a 450kg warhead.

            But could the very moment of the hit be shown? And not necessarily with 450 kg of TNT. For example, an inert blank.
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 16 December 2021 14: 38
        0
        "... I hit the target, such a vague definition
        ..."
        - well, kind of LIGHTED the target ...
        You will notice - how the beam is CLEARLY visible in the lateral projection - this indicates - about the "crazy" scattering of the beam.
        - The efficiency of the laser is just a mess!
        .
        Research by the USSR back in the 80s showed that laser weapons on sea platforms are a waste of money. The absorption of the beam near the surface of the water is painfully high.
        - but Americans - they are RICH. They are mono.
        sh8-))
  2. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 15 December 2021 18: 30
    +4
    Straight Star Wars))
    Does the piu-piu sound? winked
    1. bayard
      bayard 16 December 2021 00: 59
      -2
      150 kW, that's serious ... that's just for space. And on land / sea only as short-range air defense, as an analogue of the ZAK.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 16 December 2021 04: 09
        +1
        Quote: bayard
        And on land / sea only as short-range air defense, as an analogue of the ZAK.
        This is not serious for you ?! In general, an anti-ship missile defense system that broke through the barrier of an anti-aircraft missile defense system was a headache for sailors, for example!
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 16 December 2021 14: 43
          +3
          "... In general, the anti-ship missiles of the missiles that broke through the screen were finished
          ..."
          - are you kidding me?!!!
          And if TWO RCC "breaks through" ?!
          - Yes, at the effective range of this beam - the flight time will be a SHARE OF A SECOND. It's good if they manage to "warm up" at least ONE "RCC" during this time ...
          "to the degree of destruction" ... And this is if the beam is ABSOLUTELY not "jumping", and if the error of keeping the beam is at least a few centimeters, then the efficiency of "warming up" will drop BY ORDER ...
          - and this is a match ...
          8-))
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 16 December 2021 15: 16
            +1
            Quote: tikhonov66
            - are you kidding me?!!!
            And if TWO RCC "breaks through" ?!

            Less expression, colleague. I did not write about the laser as a replacement for ZAK, I wrote that ZAK is very serious.

            Quote: tikhonov66
            Yes, at the effective range of this beam - the flight time will be a SHARE OF A SECOND.
            Did you write something about the materiel? So - the line was completed by the anti-ship missile system with small-caliber ZAK OT 3-4 km, the subsonic anti-ship missile system overcomes 1 km in at least 3 seconds, so your knowledge of the materiel is not very good.


            Quote: tikhonov66
            It's good if they manage to "warm up" at least ONE "RCC" during this time ...
            "to the point of destruction"
            Even if the laser at a distance of 3 km shines tightly on the seeker, and 150 kW is more than tough, then this is already an invaluable help.
            By the way, ARGSN will also eat such a laser and will not frown, because the radio-transparent fairing is so-so protection, and the antenna is a delicate thing.
            But of course closer than 1 km this is already a dead poultice.
            1. just exp
              just exp 17 December 2021 07: 58
              +1
              learn materiel and do not disgrace yourself, because anti-ship missiles are not only like your Neptune and Harpoon, they are supersonic. and 2.5M is an average of 800 msec.
              further tell me how optical radiation will illuminate radio waves? because most of the seeker is radar, and melting the seeker at the terminal stage when the anti-ship missile is flying ALREADY DIRECT to the target does not make any sense
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 17 December 2021 08: 31
                -2
                Quote: just explo
                learn materiel and do not disgrace yourself, because anti-ship missiles are not only like your Neptune and Harpoon, they are supersonic. and 2.5M is an average of 800 msec.

                And what, from the subsonic, as I wrote, by the way, the anti-ship missiles do not need to shoot back?
                And since when have seconds and "fractions of a second" become the same? Is that for the dumb people.

                Quote: just EXPL
                further tell me how optical radiation will illuminate radio waves?
                Firstly, I did not write about laser interference for ARGSN, and secondly, electromagnetic damage is one of the damaging factors of laser weapons, actually. And if a certain fool does not know something, it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.
                Damaging factors on the target are determined by thermal, mechanical, optical and electromagnetic influence, which, taking into account the power density of laser radiation, ... ... to the organization of malfunctions in the electronics of on-board computers and navigation systems.

                https://rusrand.ru/analytics/lazernoe-oruzhie-problemy-i-perspektivy

                Quote: just EXPL
                and melting the GOS at the terminal stage when the anti-ship missile flies ALREADY DIRECT to the target does not make any sense
                And I already wrote about this.
                = Vladimir_2U] But of course closer than 1 km this is already a dead poultice.
                And you have to be stupid so as not to see this.

                So go with your stupid denunciations to the cormorants under the tail. hi
  3. Babermetis
    Babermetis 15 December 2021 18: 35
    +4
    Commendable. Interestingly, to become about unmanned sailing ships in the Red Sea, related to the testing of a combat laser?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 December 2021 18: 43
      -2
      The testing of sailing drones in the Red Sea is due to the complete absence of Russian fishermen in the area. And we are such entertainers, some of the blowing up of homemade products right at the rate of our competitors, we suffered from foolishness in our youth.
  4. businessv
    businessv 15 December 2021 18: 36
    +3
    Judging by the photo - so-so news. It may be interesting for specialists to compare ours with the American one, but the characteristics of neither one nor the other are known.
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  5. Bear
    Bear 15 December 2021 18: 39
    +5
    The installation of a laser with such a power at the USS Portland (LPD 27) amphibious transport dock only indicates that this is a prototype, the placement of which requires large free areas and volumes due to the massive dimensions of the installation itself and the auxiliary power plant. We can recall our Soviet Foros and Dikson, which are also not small ships, one SDK, the second dry cargo ship, although this was already almost forty years ago. Yes, the Chinese comrades installed their installation on the paratrooper, in my opinion a year ago.
  6. alexniko77
    alexniko77 15 December 2021 18: 42
    -12
    bought laser pointers for Ali and will be ponted. But seriously, why, today, is it needed? the rocket is smarter and more reliable at times.
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 15 December 2021 18: 51
      +10
      Quote: alexniko77
      bought laser pointers for Ali and will be ponted. But seriously, why, today, is it needed? the rocket is smarter and more reliable at times.

      There is an opinion that if at one time they had not trained and poked with rockets, they would not have been ice either.
      1. alexniko77
        alexniko77 15 December 2021 20: 06
        -9
        a weak argument, like, but I also had a dream about not a dream ... etc. Is there something more specific or significant on the topic?
    2. ugol2
      ugol2 15 December 2021 19: 04
      +23
      This is exactly what the archers and crossbowmen said when they first saw the arquebus.
      1. Cron
        Cron 15 December 2021 19: 46
        -8
        Quote: ugol2
        This is exactly what the archers and crossbowmen said when they first saw the arquebus.

        So the laser is already a hundred years old at lunchtime. What have we seen new here? Or is there something breakthrough in this area that I missed?
  7. lubesky
    lubesky 15 December 2021 18: 50
    -5
    What tests - this will be the answer of our fleet! The ships will be equipped with CD shields to ward off the threat. There will be a real laser - there will be a real answer!
  8. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 15 December 2021 18: 53
    -5
    Why not test our "Peresvet" on the Black Sea? If he can burn something in space for 500 km, then install him on some mountain in the Crimea and let him train on imported targets-floating devices. angry soldier
    1. Soldatov V.
      Soldatov V. 17 December 2021 11: 40
      -2
      I wonder who is minus? I think nemchura, Jews, yellow-blakitnye. laughing
  9. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 15 December 2021 19: 22
    -5

    These Americans (cocktail of those looking for a new homeland) can be so funny). "Peresvet" in your ass!
    We are waiting for lightsabers, also probably on the way)
  10. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 15 December 2021 19: 24
    +6
    Judging by the cartoon, the target from the ship was at a distance of three or four lengths of this locomotive. It is unclear what to burn at a distance of 300-400 meters. CONGRATULATIONS!
    If it were Iranian sailors, they would have shot these penguins crawling in advance from an RPG.
    Quote: businessv
    Judging by the photo - so-so news. It may be interesting for specialists to compare ours with the American one, but the characteristics of neither one nor the other are known.

    What to compare? The laser beam from the height of its installation on the ship will fly no further. than the horizon. And, this is about 20..30 km (depending on the installation altitude). Further, everywhere and everywhere we are pursued by the laws of Nature.

    "The technical reasons (according to the source - PV Zarubin" Akademik Basov ... ") consisted in the fact that at a micron wavelength of laser radiation it was practically impossible to focus the beam on a relatively small area. distance of more than 100 km, the natural angular divergence of optical laser radiation in the atmosphere as a result of scattering is 0,0001 degrees.This was established in the Institute of Atmospheric Optics at the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences in Tomsk, specially created to support the implementation of the laser weapons program. It followed that the laser spot at a distance of 100 km would have a diameter of at least 20 meters, and the energy density over an area of ​​1 cm2 with a total laser source energy of 1 MJ would be less than 0,1 J / cm2. This is too little - in order to hit a rocket (create a hole in it in 1 cm2, depressurizing it), more than 1 kJ / cm2 is required "

    The beam diverges according to a linear law, from here it is easy to calculate the spot at a distance of 10 km. This is a 2-meter bunny, which, of course, cannot burn anything.
  11. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 15 December 2021 19: 29
    +2
    = It is assumed that the power of 150 kW is enough to destroy the laser beam of small boats, ships and boats, as well as some low-speed air targets, including drones. =
    How far is it? What kind of weather? How long does the impulse last?
    Even the OBS will not be able to answer these questions.
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    3. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 16 December 2021 15: 08
      0
      "... It may be interesting for specialists to compare ours with the American
      ..."
      - "our" was found to be ineffective for offshore platforms - even on the basis of tests carried out in the 80s of the PAST CENTURY.
      - In greenhouse conditions - at distances of about 100 meters - "ours" - they made such a trick on their knees for Gazprom - to clean the throats of exploded gas and oil wells from the distorted steel fittings.
      https://www.triniti.ru/catalog/lazernye-tekhnologii/mobilnyy-lazernyy-tekhnologicheskiy-kompleks-mltk/
      - pay attention to the power - 50 kW, and the corresponding cutting range of steel - 300 meters, but most importantly - to the cutting speed - from 20 meters PER HOUR ... (1 meter per minute, 1.5 cm / sec). Those. if the anti-ship missile system is subsonic, then in this second it will fly the very same 300 meters of "effective cutting range". And anti-ship missiles now fly in a flock ... Yes, minus the aiming time ... in a word - a toy ...
  12. White man
    White man 15 December 2021 19: 40
    0
    While similar weapons are not finalized for mass deployment in different space, you can giggle and build stealth strategists.
    How long have you been making fun of the general possibility of using a combat beam weapon, including in the optical range?
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 16 December 2021 15: 19
      0
      "... Until similar weapons have been modified for mass deployment in different space
      ..."
      - as FIFTY years ago - as ALREADY "finalized". THE USSR. Voronezh. Design Bureau of Chemical Automation. Product RD-0600. Leading theme designers V.P. Koshelnikov, G.I. Zavizion, V. Yu. Guterman.
      Onboard chemical laser RD-0600 with CONTINUOUS power from 100 to 600 (!) KW. By 1985 passed a FULL cycle of fire tests. Ready to be installed on an orbital platform.
      - in the comos, the absorption of the beam is not.

      "... How long have you been making fun of the general possibility of using a combat beam weapon, including in the optical range?
      ..."
      - Who made fun, and who just worked.

      The design solutions for the gas-dynamic lasers created at KBKhA were carried out at a high scientific and technical level, which is confirmed by the introduction of more than one hundred copyright certificates for inventions received by the enterprise.

      In 1972, for the first time in the country, the first generation of radiation was obtained on a model installation with a flow rate of a working mixture of 5 kg / sec, and already in 1973, tests of a gas-dynamic laser with a flow rate of 20 kg / sec began.

      In 1975, KBKhA created and tested a powerful gas-dynamic laser with a total gas mixture consumption of up to 100 kg / s and a radiation power of up to 600 kW.

      The results of work in the field of GDL, obtained at the enterprise, were a prerequisite for the release of a decree of the Government of the USSR. KBKhA was designated as the head enterprise for the creation of gas-dynamic lasers for the Skif space complex (general developer of the Salyut KB complex).

      In 1985, the laser was manufactured and passed all types of ground tests.

      https://kbkha.ru/deyatel-nost/raketnye-dvigateli-ao-kbha/gazodinamicheskij-lazer-rd0600/
      1. White man
        White man 17 December 2021 19: 02
        0
        Thanks! I assumed that such installations should be developed, but that to such a degree of readiness ...
        Then, again, I repeat, you need your own station for fine-tuning the test and further launching into the series without prying eyes. With sufficient (I think Musk's approach is the number versus power is the most reliable) "lasers" in orbits will remove the problem of our lack of naval forces and long-range aviation. I admit that this is done without my amateurish reasoning
  13. Skipper
    Skipper 15 December 2021 19: 47
    -4
    Quote: businessv
    Judging by the photo - so-so news. It may be interesting for specialists to compare ours with the American one, but the characteristics of neither one nor the other are known.

    How unknown !!! Amersky shoots a maximum at the range of small-caliber anti-aircraft artillery, that is, Volcanoes or GSh-630, that is, for 4 km. and has a primitive energy source where is the interval between shots what .. ??? Big. And the Russian overexposure has a mobile small-sized nuclear power plant on a semitrailer and shoots 500 km upward at satellites in order to blind them and destroy equipment to cover the Yars and their positions. So there is nothing to compare it like a combat pistol and a toy plastic from the children's world.
    1. Genry
      Genry 15 December 2021 22: 47
      +2
      Quote: Skipper
      has a primitive energy source where is the interval between shots what .. ???

      Quote: Skipper
      And the Russian overexposure has a mobile small-sized nuclear power plant on a semitrailer

      Do not suffer from nonsense.
      125kW - This needs a 500kW generator, which can be removed from the 670hp engine.
      And in Peresvet there is no nuclear power plant - there is, at most, a gas turbine generator.
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 16 December 2021 15: 24
        0
        "...
        There is no nuclear power plant in Peresvet - there is, at most, a gas turbine generator.
        ..."
        - eight-)))
        NPP is the PRIMARY source of thermal energy, and for its transformation into electricity it is quite (most likely) a gas / steam-turbine converter is used.
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  14. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 15 December 2021 19: 49
    +2
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    = It is assumed that the power of 150 kW is enough to destroy the laser beam of small boats, ships and boats, as well as some low-speed air targets, including drones. =
    How far is it? What kind of weather? How long does the impulse last?
    Even the OBS will not be able to answer these questions.
    Perhaps this material will be difficult for a non-specialist, but it will be interesting to read.
    https://aftershock.news/?q=node/34005&full
  15. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 15 December 2021 19: 52
    +2
    Quote: White man
    While similar weapons are not finalized for mass deployment in different space, you can giggle and build stealth strategists.
    How long have you been making fun of the general possibility of using a combat beam weapon, including in the optical range?

    There are physical constants, which are impossible to jump over neither in the Stone Age, nor in the 140th century, the progressive one. https://aftershock.news/?q=node/34005&full
  16. Alien From
    Alien From 15 December 2021 19: 56
    +3
    The future has come, no matter who says what. And not in our favor.
    1. Bear
      Bear 15 December 2021 20: 20
      +4
      The future came in the past, in 1984. Here is a link to an article in one interesting information resource: https: //topwar.ru/4229-foros-i-dikson-pionery-sovetskogo-lazerostroeniya.html
      1. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh 15 December 2021 23: 16
        +4
        NPO Astrophysics was the first enterprise that the Americans destroyed. Already at the end of 93, stone was gone. And this was the head developer of laser systems. I started my career there.
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 16 December 2021 15: 46
          -2
          Hitler, Churchill and Roosevelt - they also thought that they had destroyed Russia, and that it would never rise again ...
          https://www.triniti.ru/
          https://life.ru/p/970084
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 16 December 2021 02: 23
        0
        И
        ..... in the fools we sit !!
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 16 December 2021 15: 34
          -2
          "...
          Alien From (Alien From) Today 02:23 New 0
          ..... in the fools we sit !!
          ..."
          This is not us, it is you who are "in the fool".
          With its Fashington Regional Committee.

          - AND WE - and not "in the fools" and "do not sit" ...
          We are working !

          https://kbkha.ru/
          https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/126709/
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 17 December 2021 07: 32
      -1
      You are like a Papuan with beads. But everyone has known for a long time that a laser cannot even heat anything at a great distance (it was even quoted above). In the photo, this crap shines almost point-blank with this pointer. This is the future ... Lasers are the maximum for space.
  17. Jora bayramow
    Jora bayramow 15 December 2021 21: 38
    +2
    No matter how you think about a combat laser, the future of missile defense and air defense lies with this weapon, paired with powerful stationary-mine-based electromagnetic cannons. These weapons will fill each other in any weather. Of course, the technology has yet to be developed and more powerful combat lasers have to be created, and super-powerful, large-sized e-lasers. magic cannons, which, with an instant-lightning shot, giving hypersonic speed, could bring the anti-missile to the target. Looks fantastic, but this is tomorrow's reality. Perhaps from the point of view of specialists, I am wrong. But I wrote about it in my n.f. the book "I am an Earthman". (in electrical version).
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 16 December 2021 15: 56
      -1
      "... with powerful mine-based stationary electromagnetic guns
      ..."
      - have no prospects. From the word at all.
      The ACCURACY / scatter problem is not solved and how to solve it is not visible.
      In principle, it is not visible.
      For barreled artillery - the problem of dispersal is solved by the massive use of: Battery 5 rounds, for the fugitive - Fire!
      The railgun battery is a billionaire's utopia.
      And about "the fugitive - Fire" - this is the utopia of the fraternal hydroelectric power station ...
      - and control of a railgun projectile using gas / aerodynamic rudders is 1) loss of speed and range
      2) there is a big problem with the transmission of control commands to the projectile - it is shielded by a plasma cloud.
      3) the placement of control equipment directly on the railgun projectile is technically unlikely due to the incredible overloads when fired. In a conventional gun, the overloads reach 100G, in a railgun, they are an order of magnitude higher. Therefore, we must forget about the "cheapness" of a railroad shot with the use of guided projectiles.
      - WELL NOT A COMPETITOR The railgun "avant-garde" is not a competitor at all.
      8-))
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 17 December 2021 07: 37
      0
      You've watched films and read a lot of fiction. Continuous cliches and gasps about "this is the future." I think it's not worth talking about the scattering of a laser beam, and how Soviet scientists discovered this unfortunate misunderstanding of physics.
  18. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 15 December 2021 21: 58
    +2
    I am tormented by vague doubts, the ray is very clearly visible, like in a movie (no need to talk about filters) laughing But I remember the program "Obvious-Incredible" in the year 1983. There they told and showed a Soviet chemical laser, which received pumping energy directly from the reaction, without intermediate energy accumulators. He even cut a razor blade, having small dimensions of its own. And Kapitsa promised that in the next program they will continue the story about this lazar. I on purpose, a week later, sat down at the TV ... But nothing! They did not even remember, as if there was no last program. Here is a story. stop
    1. Genry
      Genry 15 December 2021 23: 08
      0
      Quote: Nikolay Sayenko
      showed a Soviet chemical laser, which received pump energy directly from the reaction

      Chemical lasers are a military dream, mobile like "engineer Garin's hyperboloid". Because someone got a hat, at best.
    2. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh 15 December 2021 23: 20
      +1
      In '82, a Soviet penny was pierced for me with a completely ordinary laboratory laser. So simple, as a keepsake. It's a pity I fell in love with the souvenir.
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      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 16 December 2021 16: 05
        0
        "... In '82, a Soviet penny was pierced for me with a completely ordinary laboratory laser.
        ..."
        2000g TRINITY - product MLTK50. Cutting depth in steel - up to 440mm at a distance of up to 300m
        https://topwar.ru/39288-mobilnye-lazernye-tehnologicheskiekompleksy-razrabotki-gnc-rf-triniti.html
  19. Lepsik
    Lepsik 15 December 2021 22: 58
    -1


    Soviet scientists and the KGB / Cigarette lighter or laser sword? / Unreal story

    https://youtu.be/bzmHqgW5bfc
  20. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 16 December 2021 12: 26
    +1
    Quote: White man
    While similar weapons are not finalized for mass deployment in different space, you can giggle and build stealth strategists.
    How long have you been making fun of the general possibility of using a combat beam weapon, including in the optical range?

    Do you see an opportunity to place a generator of a hundred kilowatts there in order to shoot down missiles and satellites? The radiation power of the Sun in the Earth's orbit is 1367 W / m². This makes it possible to obtain about 130 W per 1 m² of the surface of solar cells (with an efficiency of 8 ... 13%). The ISS receives the bulk of its electricity from four pairs of solar cells installed in 2000, 2006, 2007 and 2009. At the moment, they generate about 160 kW of energy, which is noticeably less than ten years ago. The loss of power is explained by the fact that under the influence of the factors of the space environment, solar batteries are gradually degrading.
    Or do you choose nuclear generators? Then the question is, how are you going to pump out the heat generated by these stoves, there is no atmosphere in space, and thermal radiation (radiators) give off only 3% of the heat. The dimensions of this metal should be more serious than the ISS itself. Have you found a carrier that can heap all this into orbit? If you try to argue that THEN everything will be perfect, think first. There are physical constants, insurmountable never and nowhere.
    1. Genry
      Genry 16 December 2021 15: 46
      0
      Quote: Siberian-1
      Or do you choose nuclear generators? Then the question is, how are you going to pump out the heat generated by these stoves, there is no atmosphere in space, and thermal radiation (radiators) give off only 3% of the heat.

      You are wrong.
      Russia has developments in space, nuclear power plants ... wink
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujvLOlFupFU
  21. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 16 December 2021 16: 02
    +1
    Quote: Genry
    Quote: Siberian-1
    Or do you choose nuclear generators? Then the question is, how are you going to pump out the heat generated by these stoves, there is no atmosphere in space, and thermal radiation (radiators) give off only 3% of the heat.

    You are wrong.
    Russia has developments in space, nuclear power plants ... wink
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujvLOlFupFU

    Yes, you never know what we have? The question here is not about potential, but about real implementation. And then - the project that we WILL IMPLEMENT (possibly) - from the hopelessness of using ANOTHER source. Moving away from the Sun quadratically reduces the power of solar panels. There is another option - to recharge the batteries with generation from a rocket impeller. Would you agree to work on a refueller, sent obviously earlier, on the highway, so that .....?
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      Genry 16 December 2021 16: 37
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      Quote: Siberian-1
      The question here is not about potential, but about real implementation.

      "Potential" possibilities were there until a couple of cooling options were worked out - a space nuclear power plant is now really possible. Now they are trying to switch to more promising drop cooling (the best is the enemy of the good).

      And about the military purpose for high-orbit radars, with penetration of several meters under the surface of the planet or as a combat anti-satellite laser - there have already been leaks.
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    Siberian-1 16 December 2021 16: 14
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    Quote: tikhonov66
    Hitler, Churchill and Roosevelt - they also thought that they had destroyed Russia, and that it would never rise again ...
    https://www.triniti.ru/
    https://life.ru/p/970084

    And where did the Swedes, French, Poles, Turks go? We were the last to break our plans 9 times to tear off a piece from Russia. Taking away from them, just because they could not calm down in any way? The Poles were divided and subtracted three times. The Swedes are glad that their Karl 12 was beaten like a dog. Honestly, they told me themselves, we were their guests. IT TURNS TO LIVE PEACEFULLY IS BETTER!
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    Siberian-1 16 December 2021 16: 47
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    Quote: Genry
    Quote: Siberian-1
    The question here is not about potential, but about real implementation.

    A couple of cooling options have not yet worked out the potential capabilities - a space nuclear power plant is now realistically possible. Now they are trying to switch to more promising drop cooling (the best is the enemy of the good).

    And about the military purpose for high-orbit radars with penetration of several meters under the surface of the planet, or as a combat anti-satellite laser - there have already been leaks.

    Be critical of all of these messages. Drip cooling in zero gravity conditions. Have you seen how a match burns in those conditions? Evaporative, but the question is, how to mix the medium? If this is all closed in the volume of the station, then there is no sense at all. Turn on the refrigerator and open the doors. Will the room get colder? Evaporate into space - sooner or later this business will end. You are confused - not to cool with liquids in any form, but to extract the heat from the heated one to the case (radiator). By the principle of heat pipes. But for this you need to transport something, communicate the movement. Pumps? Power loss again. In a computer with such a cooling system, this process is performed by gravity.