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The UAE considered the requirements for the protection of F-35 technologies put forward by the United States "onerous"

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One of the largest deals in the United States for the supply of fifth-generation F-35 fighters may fail, the United Arab Emirates has suspended negotiations on the purchase of these aircraft. The corresponding notification has already been sent to Washington. This was announced by an official representative of the UAE authorities.


The UAE has warned the United States of a possible withdrawal from the deal to acquire 50 fifth-generation F-35 fighters and 18 attack drones. The deal has been suspended for now, but its complete cancellation is possible. The reason for this was the US demands to protect "advanced technologies" from espionage, primarily from China. In the UAE, the demands put forward were considered excessive and burdensome, and Washington was informed about this.

The UAE has told the US that it will suspend discussions on the acquisition of the F-35. Technical requirements, sovereign operating constraints, cost benefit analysis led to revaluation

- said in a statement.

In turn, Washington said they hope to continue negotiations and sign a contract for the supply of fighters and drones to the UAE. This statement was made by the head of the US Department of State Anthony Blinken. It is worth recalling that the planned contract will bring the US $ 23 billion.

As the American press writes, referring to sources in the Pentagon, the prospects for the deal are not yet clear, but today or tomorrow everything will become clearer. The thing is that a UAE delegation has arrived in Washington on a two-day visit and the issue of purchasing the F-35 may be raised during the negotiations. Based on their results, it will become clear whether the UAE is refusing to purchase the F-35 or whether it was an element of bargaining on the eve of the signing of the agreement.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 15 December 2021 09: 48
    -21
    Well, of course, things are easier with camel war chariots! laughing
    1. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 15 December 2021 10: 00
      -12
      Quote: Grandfather Mozai
      Give "check and checkmate" to the Americans on the deal!

      Sheikhs sent obscenities ... lol
    2. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 15 December 2021 10: 03
      -1
      This is very similar to the classic "selling soul to the Devil" deal ...
      - We will give you a proud fighting penguin, but for this we will be able to check and control EVERYTHING! At any time and at the slightest threat, so that the priceless bird is not offended by enemies. stop
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 15 December 2021 10: 32
        +2
        When a soul is sold, they first have an awesome benefit, but in this situation, something awesome benefit is not visible.
  2. Grandfather Mozai
    Grandfather Mozai 15 December 2021 09: 52
    0
    Give "check and checkmate" to the Americans on the deal!
  3. Aldmit_2
    Aldmit_2 15 December 2021 09: 52
    +4
    The main requirement is not to take off from airfields?
    1. Kesha1980
      Kesha1980 15 December 2021 10: 06
      -1
      Initially, Israel did not like this idea - "penguins" from a friendly state. "For some reason" they do not trust. Although they seem to have received recognition, they exchanged diplomats.
      Bargained. In addition to money, conditions on Iran will be added and bargained. I think so.
      1. atalef
        atalef 15 December 2021 10: 10
        -10
        Quote: Kesha1980
        Initially, Israel did not like this idea - "penguins" from a friendly state. "For some reason" they do not trust. Although they seem to have received recognition, they exchanged diplomats.
        Bargained. In addition to money, conditions on Iran will be added and bargained. I think so.

        The problem is not in Iran, the problem is in China
        1. Kesha1980
          Kesha1980 15 December 2021 10: 26
          +4
          .https: //topwar.ru/165334-chtoby-izrail-ne-utratil-preimuschestvo-jeksperty-obsudili-sroki-kontrakta-f-35-dlja-oaje.html

          I am inclined to trust more the theory of Israel's desire to be a regional "hegemon".
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 16 December 2021 08: 03
      0
      The main requirement is not to take off from airfields?

      What is there to take off - do not roll out of hangars! lol
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 December 2021 09: 58
    +6
    It even became interesting that the F 35 could not go completely under external control by chance. And so that the pilot did not fade anywhere, the line "Bailout error" appears on the board.
  5. AAC
    AAC 15 December 2021 09: 59
    -4
    Those who have not yet been bought by Turkey will be forced to buy them.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 15 December 2021 10: 17
    0
    The UAE considered the requirements for the protection of F-35 technologies put forward by the United States "onerous"
    ... An interesting turn in the relationship of partners, allies, trade partners.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 15 December 2021 10: 51
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      The UAE considered the requirements for the protection of F-35 technologies put forward by the United States "onerous"
      ... An interesting turn in the relationship of partners, allies, trade partners.


      Nothing new in the relationship of partners.
      Similar requirements were from the United States to the EU countries (NATO members). About the fact that it is necessary to prohibit the deployment of 5G networks with the participation of China, tk. this will lead to China's access to classified information.
      The threat from the United States to violators, a ban on the provision of any intelligence information within NATO, etc.

      The UAE has money, does not have the ability to implement the 5G project on its own, they will buy a completely turnkey system from someone with service and full minced meat with all the bells and whistles, and among the first.

      Apparently the United States tried to ban the UAE from cooperating with China. China is most likely among the leaders in promoting 5G networks. If you buy from the United States, it will be more expensive, longer, worse.
      There will definitely be total espionage by the CIA, NSA ...

      It is also possible that there is a direct demand for the placement of some "center for combating cyber threats" from the CIA. There are such centers in many NATO countries, the hushed up story with the telephone of "grandmother Merkel".

      In short idea:
      "Buy F35 and go under full US external control"
      for some reason the sheikhs did not like it.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 December 2021 13: 13
        0
        Not everything and not everything revolves around striped Wishlist ...
  7. Azimuth
    Azimuth 15 December 2021 10: 19
    +1
    Do not buy someone else's! Otherwise, the software update will cease to come and the summer will become memorials. For the purchase of an AK 12 or a Chinese-made air defense system (not important from the US point of view) can lead to a leak of American technology. UAE bend - there is no worthy offer at the moment. In 5 years, such complexes will appear both in China and in the Russian Federation.
    1. Terran ghost
      Terran ghost 16 December 2021 16: 54
      -1
      For the purchase of an AK 12 or a Chinese-made air defense system (not important from the point of view of the United States) can lead to a leak of American technology.

      The purchase of AK12 or the establishment of its production at home, of course, will not be considered such a "leakage threat". Because she's not there.
      But with the air defense system, everything is more complicated. In this case, the American military department fears that in the course of routine combat training and maneuvers, Chinese or Russian-made air defense systems are filming the F-35 radar telemetry, which will then be remotely read by the intelligence services of the manufacturing country.
  8. Jcvai
    Jcvai 15 December 2021 10: 20
    +1
    A good business: we will sell you a consignment of goods, it will be yours, but only we will use it.
    It seems to me that the States have little option for collecting tribute for the protection of vassals by bases located on their territory, the new business plan also implies the leasing of military equipment with the possibility of redemption due to obsolescence.
  9. svp67
    svp67 15 December 2021 10: 37
    +1
    There is one thing, or you buy their F-35, or democracy will come to you ...
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 15 December 2021 10: 44
    0
    There Israel is outraged over the purchase of the F-35 by the UAE and the Arabs have problems. Americans Think They Run the World ................... laughing laughing laughing tongue
  11. askort154
    askort154 15 December 2021 10: 54
    +1
    We need to send this article to the finals.
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 15 December 2021 10: 58
    0
    What is this confusion and vacillation in the ranks?
    It would be fun to watch how the penguins were scrolled by analogy with the paddling pool. But the Arabs are more likely to bend over. Although, maybe they know something about the well-being of the hegemon?
    1. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 15 December 2021 11: 11
      +2
      Germany failed to bend, for example.
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 15 December 2021 11: 32
        0
        Quote: El Chuvachino
        Germany failed to bend, for example.


        If according to SP2, then the story is not over. The Germans took upon themselves all sorts of murky obligations regarding Ukraine. In Germany, a "traffic light" with the Greens was brought to power, whose influence on politics is not proportional to (the votes received) is high, because they are a missing, indispensable ingredient for most.

        In German politics, anti-Russian and anti-Chinese rhetoric is likely to grow very much.

        The Germans not only did not bend, but they did not unbend.
        1. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 15 December 2021 11: 39
          +2
          I'm talking about the F-35, which Germany simply abandoned halfway through.
        2. askort154
          askort154 15 December 2021 14: 14
          0
          Pandiurin.... In German politics, anti-Russian and anti-Chinese rhetoric is likely to grow very much.

          No, it won't get any worse. Scholz is an associate of Schroeder and Merkel.
          He has always, being a financier in the government, advocated rapprochement with Russia. Now Annalina Verbock, the head of the "greens", an ardent Russophobe, has entered his government. She got the portfolio of the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. And to her first speech - to help Ukraine with weapons, Scholz reacted harshly. Like, it's not for her to decide these issues. I would like to hope that Scholz
          will withstand the pressure of the Anglo-Saxons. He has strong support in the party and among the people.
  13. Teador
    Teador 15 December 2021 11: 06
    -4
    TASS, January 20. The United Arab Emirates signed an agreement with the United States to purchase 50 F-35 fighters, as well as up to 18 attack drones. This was reported on Wednesday by Reuters, citing a source.
  14. El Chuvachino
    El Chuvachino 15 December 2021 11: 13
    -1
    ... oops hi



    he he
  15. Tagan
    Tagan 15 December 2021 11: 38
    -3
    Quote: El Chuvachino
    Germany failed to bend, for example.

    But the hegemon does not leave attempts))
    In general, it becomes more and more difficult for him to bend someone down. I don't take Eastern European litter into account. They themselves will bend over without talking.
  16. Voltsky
    Voltsky 15 December 2021 11: 48
    -2
    subtly hint that the grandmother's seeds around the corner are cheaper
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 15 December 2021 12: 26
    +2
    The Swiss, Norwegians, Finns were not capricious like the emirs.
    The F-35 is very easy to fly for pilots. It has an advanced autopilot that prevents you from making dangerous mistakes.
    A course on a simulator, and a beginner pilot will fly confidently.
    The technicians are more concerned. It must be understood in computers and electronics.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 15 December 2021 13: 04
      -3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Swiss, Norwegians, Finns were not capricious like the emirs.
      The F-35 is very easy to fly for pilots. It has an advanced autopilot that prevents you from making dangerous mistakes.
      A course on a simulator, and a beginner pilot will fly confidently.
      The technicians are more concerned. It must be understood in computers and electronics.

      Yes, they say on simulators in general only the neck and swing, the rest is unnecessary to train, because the autopilots, but the virtual helmet is heavy, with a catapult, the neck can be damaged.
    2. Azimuth
      Azimuth 15 December 2021 20: 16
      -2
      And oops .... in case of a real big conflict, it is enough to disable a small sensor, even for a technician, the software will start to blunt and again the LA Park is not ready. And the pilot, like Popka, will sit and wait for the software update and the swollen technician. And the more complex and expensive the technique, the easier it is to hack.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 December 2021 20: 30
        +1
        The hardest thing to hack is scrap steel. And just one detail. good

        But for some reason they don't fight with crowbars. belay
        1. Azimuth
          Azimuth 16 December 2021 14: 36
          -1
          This has already happened in the Second World War. The cooked up and most importantly expensive Tiger and the massive T-34. The war for several years and the F-35 will be prepared to take into account the battleship Tirpitz. Stay at the pier, so as not to drown. It will be painfully reputational and expensive to defile the F-35 fleet.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 16 December 2021 15: 05
            +4
            So today the F-35 is just the "T-34" of the Air Force.
            He is the most massive fighter.
            Conveyor - stamped at 12-14 per month. And one of the cheapest and easiest to operate.
            Novice pilots are put on it after the simulator - and forward.
            The autopilot prevents mistakes.
            1. Liam
              Liam 16 December 2021 15: 10
              -2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Autopilot prevents mistakes

              The deceased Japanese pilot is unlikely to agree with you
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 16 December 2021 15: 58
                +2
                Well, if you lose consciousness at the peak, the autopilot is unlikely to have time to level the plane ... recourse
                1. Liam
                  Liam 16 December 2021 16: 17
                  -1
                  The cause of the crash is the loss of spatial orientation by the pilot. One of the most common, by the way, in civil aviation.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 16 December 2021 16: 23
                    +2
                    It was very specific there.
                    A group of F-35 planes, upon returning from exercise, were ordered to change the corridor over the ocean - to reduce the altitude in order to let other planes pass.
                    One of the pilots did it abruptly. He lost consciousness either in the peak, or when trying to get out of the peak.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 16 December 2021 16: 36
                      -1
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      One of the pilots did it abruptly

                      And why did the automation not prevent this then?
                      1. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 16 December 2021 16: 46
                        +3
                        Because this is a standard combat maneuver. smile
                        Which he tried to do.
                        But you do not need to lose consciousness at the same time. sad
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 16 December 2021 17: 02
                        -1
                        A combat pilot is not a muslin girl and loses consciousness only if the overloads go beyond the permissible limits. Automatics should not allow this. It does not allow in reality. Neither the military nor civilians. And from loss of spatial orientation (when the plane goes down, and the pilot thinks that it is upward or straight) - no automation will save.


                        Novice pilots are put on it after the simulator - and forward


                        Pilot training programs are perhaps the most expensive item in contracts for the purchase of combat aircraft in general and the F-35 in particular. It lasts many months, under the guidance of very experienced instructors and usually only in the USA. Moreover, the most experienced pilots are retrained on the F-35. No gym boys
                      3. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 16 December 2021 17: 16
                        +3
                        Experienced pilots can barely endure long hours in virtual reality.
                        (On the F-35, they don't turn their heads in search of an enemy aircraft).
                        And the young live quietly in animation.

                        From the experience of discussions with you, I remember that the last post always After you smile
                        Write it down and you will come out, as always, the winner ... laughing
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 16 December 2021 17: 26
                        -1
                        )))
                        How many inexperienced youngsters living in animation have switched from a flight simulator stool to an F-35 pilot's seat in the Israel Air Force? Or, like everywhere else, solid experienced captains / majors / undergrounds who have flown the F-15/16 for many years before?
    3. zwlad
      zwlad 19 December 2021 22: 24
      0
      Just one problem.
      A couple of mouse clicks in the control center in the United States and you cannot use the weapon that is installed, suspended on the plane.
  18. Shahno
    Shahno 16 December 2021 16: 56
    0
    LTD. Failed again. Yes, a complex apparatus ... laughing
  19. Azimuth
    Azimuth 16 December 2021 17: 30
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    So today the F-35 is just the "T-34" of the Air Force.
    He is the most massive fighter.
    Conveyor - stamped at 12-14 per month. And one of the cheapest and easiest to operate.
    Novice pilots are put on it after the simulator - and forward.
    The autopilot prevents mistakes.

    F-35 is a good plane. I don’t argue about that. The bottom line is the complication of the system from the point of view of the human factor, the increase in components, the complication of manufacturing and maintenance technology. Two (maybe more)
    An F-18 or two Su-30sm will perform all functions for the same spent resources for one f 35.
    1. Liam
      Liam 16 December 2021 17: 49
      0
      Quote: Azimut
      Two (maybe more)
      An F-18 or two Su-30sm will perform all functions for the same spent resources for one f 35.

      Even 9 women will not give birth to a child in 1 month. Neither 2 nor 20 Su-30 will lower their EPR to the values ​​of the F-35. The F-35 does not cost more than 4 generation aircraft. This is not counting the fact that the most expensive thing in any aircraft is the pilot. .And 2 Su-30 pilots are in no way cheaper than 1 -35th pilot
  20. Basarev
    Basarev 16 December 2021 18: 25
    -1
    How can these requirements be burdensome? The UAE is incredibly rich. Or do you not yet know that you cannot save money on military security? In an amicable way, the military budget should be such that the armed forces, as the customer, can not look at the price tag at all and order what best suits the needs. Not the cheapest.
  21. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 December 2021 12: 57
    0
    Mattresses demanded that the purchased "penguins" be placed in sealed safes with a ban on rolling out from there for 50 years? laughing