Sorrowful date of the Cossack genocide

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Together with the new Great Troubles that began in 1917 in the Russian state, the Cossack genocide, which continued at various 74 years of the totalitarian regime, has its origins. In the course of its implementation, two periods are distinguished, during which the destruction of the Cossacks took place most actively. The first and most terrible period of the Cossack genocide came during the fratricidal Civil War, when from the 4 million Cossack population of Russia, over 2 million was physically destroyed. Many thousands, fleeing from certain death, were forced to leave their homeland and permanently go into exile.

The second period of the Cossack genocide occurred in the years of the general collectivization of 1929-1933. from which of all the rural inhabitants of the country, the Cossacks suffered the most.

The spiritual destruction of the Cossacks was carried out during the entire period of existence of the anti-people regime, right up to the revival of the Cossacks that began in 1989. Part of the genocide of the Russian Cossacks was the systematic and systematic destruction of the Semirechensk Cossacks. All the horrors that fell upon the Cossacks had to be fully endured by the Semirechensky Cossacks - physical extermination, rasskazachivanie, forced mobilization, the destruction of the original Cossack way of life, self-government, dispossession, forced relocation from the lands of their ancestors.

The beginning of that terrible tragedy was laid by the events of the spring of 1918. But its prerequisites developed even earlier, from the time of the destruction of the Russian in February 1917. historical statehood. The February coup logically ended with the October coup, as a result of which the Bolshevik leadership came to power in the country. If the February coup, after some time the majority of the Semirechye Cossacks still recognized, the October coup, with the exception of a small handful of renegades, was not recognized.

After the October Revolution, in the Semirechensk region, the Semirechensk Cossacks represented the Troop Government in November 1 created by him, taking the path of Bolshevism in the Semirechensk region 1917. However, in the fight against the enemies of legitimate power, the Army Government was guided more by a wait-and-see policy and half-measures. This was used by the Bolshevik elements who launched against the government of the Semirechensky Cossack army, their activities intensified every day. The sad result of all this was the tragic outcome, pulling a chain of bloody events.

At the end of January, 1918, the city of Verny, the capital of the Semirechensky Cossack army (now Alma-Ata), came from Iran. The 2 Semirechensky Cossack regiment promoted at the front. Being already in the regional city of the Cossacks of the second regiment, they finally fell under the influence of the Bolsheviks. The young Cossacks, who had not yet had enough life experience, easily believed in the generous promises of the Bolsheviks, who promised the inviolability of the Cossack lands, the preservation of the Cossack way of life, representation in new bodies, authorities, etc. 2 March 1918 The Cossacks of the 2 Regiment, led by the Bolsheviks, revolted, made a coup in the city of Verniy, overthrowing the power of the Army government2. As a result of this, in the Semirechensk region, as well as throughout Russia, the power of the Bolsheviks was established.

The Cossacks, themselves still not understanding, brought their future executioners to power. Major disasters that erupted shortly after the coup of the Civil War in Semirechie fell on the Lepsy and Kopal uyezds located in the Northern Semirechye, where the main hostilities took place for two years. The 2 Semirechensky Cossack regiment was located in the villages of these two counties, the Cossacks for the most part died in the fire of the civil war, paying with their blood for the fatal mistake made in March of 1918. Having seized power, the Bolsheviks immediately declared that they would not persecute anyone for their past opposition to them. But it was just a common for the new government sneaky deception, which she everywhere and constantly used.


The Reds made any promises to anyone and made any concessions that they forgot about as soon as they were no longer necessary. This loud statement was made with only one purpose, to gain time and strengthen its power in the Seven Rivers, defeat the Cossacks. In turn, the majority of the Cossacks had no illusions about the closest intentions of the authorities, and was preparing to resist. The war in the region began with the uprising of the Semirechensky Cossacks that broke out on April 16 in Vernensky district. The following events served as a push to that terrible tragedy. In Verny at this time there was a shortage of bread caused by a crop failure in Semirechye in 1917.

The Bolshevik government decided to get out of the situation, taking bread from those who produced it. After the March coup, power in the Semirechensk region in the absence of workers in it passed into the hands of the peasants. The peasants naturally did not intend to rob themselves. Therefore, a way out of the food crisis was found simple (in their opinion) - to take away the bread from the Cossacks. To fulfill this decision, a food detachment was formed in Verny and sent to the village of Sophia, from whose Cossacks the robbers were required to hand over 1000 pounds of bread and everything they had weapon. After that, for intimidation, they bombarded the village of two guns. The attempt of requisitions caused an explosion of indignation among the Cossacks of the stanitsa, which later grew into an uprising. The Cossacks of the next five villages joined the rebels. Together, they defeated the foodstuffs and laid siege to the city of Verny, which was the beginning of the April uprising of 3.

A well-armed Tashkent expeditionary punitive detachment, under the command of A. Murayev, was sent against the rebels from Tashkent. Despite the heroic, stubborn resistance, the rebellious Cossacks could not resist a stronger opponent, and were forced to go to China and the Northern Semirechye4. Having taken the upper hand, the punitive detachment began to repair in the stanitsa of Vernensky district untold atrocities. Cossack population was subjected to indiscriminate looting, violence and murder. The houses of many rebel Cossacks, bandits of the Murayev detachment, were burned down. The Cossacks were even forbidden to call themselves Cossacks. From now on, they were supposed to be called only citizens. Those who dared to call themselves Cossacks were shot on the spot. All Cossacks whose punitives found weapons were also subject to execution.

Capturing after a stubborn battle of the Malo-Almaty village, Murayev’s detachment took prisoner more than a hundred Cossacks, who were then all shot. Then the punitive forces expelled the remaining population after the departure of the Cossacks to its outskirts in the Razvilka district (now the Alma-Ata district), after which they were put on their knees and machine guns were put on, thus keeping them for several hours. Driving around horses, Muraev, showered with dirty swearing, threatened to shoot them all, if the Cossack rebels, who had avoided being captured, would not come to him and would not surrender. However, the commissioner, sent by the new regional authorities, prevented him from carrying out this atrocity, after a conversation with whom Muraev canceled the planned bloody act.

In honor of the capture ”of the Malo-Almaty stanitsa, Murayev staged a grand feast for the detachment, during which the stanitsa was subjected to indiscriminate robbery, violence and murder. Several Cossacks of the stanitsa, who supported the Bolshevik power, Muraev, in order to avoid their death during the pogrom, put a guardhouse for a day. Punishers killed Cossacks, despite their belonging to the Bolsheviks, just because they were Cossacks5 by origin.

In the village of Nadezhdinskaya, Murayevtsy, in front of the residents in the central square, executed several dozen Cossacks captured. They were put on their knees, after which they chopped off the head with a sword. Execute the execution put a teenager who, because of his physical weakness, chopped off his head only after a few blows, exposing the doomed Cossacks to terrible torment. Requests sentenced Cossacks to appoint for the execution of an adult executioner were ignored. The wives and children of the Cossacks who participated in the uprising, the Murai men, put the stone cellars of the houses, nailing the way out and condemning people to a long and painful death from thirst and hunger. As a result, mainly women, old people and children suffered, because the Cossacks themselves left the county.

Many Cossacks, anticipating what was waiting for their families, going to China, took them with them. The number of Cossacks who died at the hands of Murayev fanatics still remains unknown. One can get an idea about this one by one reliably known fact. The same violence as in the villages, the Murayev gang created in the Uigur villages, avenging their inhabitants for supporting the April uprising of the Cossacks. According to Uighur historians, the punishers killed about seven thousand Uigurs. The number of the dead Cossack population, no one thought.

The April uprising was defeated, but in the struggle of the Semirechensk Cossacks against Bolshevism it was of great importance. Its main result was the cessation of the split of the Semirechensk Cossacks into whites and reds. The Cossacks, who after the October revolution took the path of supporting the Bolshevik regime, or showed hesitation after the brutal suppression of the April uprising, seeing the true essence of the new government, joined the ranks of the whites. The April Uprising was the beginning of the second stage of the White movement in Semirechye. If its first stage in the Semirechensk region was passive-defensive, a reaction to the Bolsheviks forcibly seized power in the center of the country, a desire to preserve what was possible from the former Russia, then the second stage of the White movement became an active, insurgent response to the anti-people policy.

Having staged the bloody pogrom of the southern villages, the Bolsheviks proceeded to the systematic implementation of the policy of the genocide of the Semirechensky Cossacks. The next act of genocide was the beginning of the storytelling. In June 1918, two relevant decisions were taken. On June 3, the commander of the Red forces of the Semirechensk region issued an order to liquidate the Semirechensky Cossack troops: “The troop rule and all the village authorities of the Semirechensky Cossack troops will be abolished. I order all the property, files and sums of money of the former Military Government, immediately to hand over mine with the military board. To disband and liquidate the entire Cossack administration, I set up a special department at the headquarters of the troops. ”6. 6 June Semirechensky regional executive committee issued a resolution on confiscation of Cossack land officers and agricultural inventory, as well as requisition of grain and cattle from the Cossacks of 7.

Soon after that, the renaming of villages, settlements and their transformation into volosts and villages began to be carried out. Beginning in Vernensky district, the Civil War soon spread to the Kopalsky and Lepsinsky districts located in the Northern Semirechye, where it lasted for two full years. The main reason for the war was the sharp rejection by the Cossacks of the power established on their land, which brought people only suffering and death. In this bloody confrontation, the Semirechensk Cossacks fought for the right to arrange their lives according to the customs of their ancestors, for their freedom, against cruel violence, for order, against arbitrariness and anarchy. The beginning of the Civil War in the north of the region was a sharp aggravation in the spring of 1918 of land conflicts of the Cossacks with the peasants who had recently moved there. Indignation of the Cossacks was caused by claims of the peasants on their lands, in relation to which they wanted to redistribute in their favor. Not having achieved from the Cossacks consent to such a redistribution, the peasants began to forcibly seize their land plots8.

Peasants of Lepsinsky and Kopalsky counties (now the territory of Taldy-Kurgan oblast of Kazakhstan), using the support of county councils, where the power entirely belonged to them, began to arrange mass coercion against Cossacks, expressed in addition to the seizure of their lands, in the damage of their crops, mowing Cossack meadows , stealing horses, attacks on the Cossacks, etc., which forced the Cossacks to take retaliatory actionsNUMX. The result of arbitrariness was the beginning of bloody clashes between the Cossacks and the peasants, which later grew into a civil confrontation. In June, 9, immediately after the suppression of the April uprising, in order to defeat the insurgent villages, a large punitive detachment of I. Mamontov was sent out of Verny in the north of Semirechye. Upon arrival, a large number of local peasants joined the Wernens punishers. Soon two more large punitive detachments were sent from the city of Verny to the Northern Semirechye. The poorly armed Cossacks, whose stanitsas were at a great distance from each other, unable to resist the more numerous and well-armed detachments of the Reds, were forced to cease resistance. Active participants in the uprising were forced to take refuge in the mountains of the Dzungarian Alatau or to go to the territory of China.

Only the strong in spirit and strong unity of the Cossacks of the Cossack village of Sarkand managed to give a fitting rebuff to the number of times their number in red. After the suppression of the uprisings, a wave of repression swept through the northern villages of Semirechye. Of the three Red units operating in the north of Semirechye, the I. Mamontov detachment especially distinguished itself in the violence against the peaceful Cossack population. In addition, the Mammoths everywhere carried out the universal destruction of the stanitsa priests for the fact that they blessed the Cossacks for the feat and sacrifice in the name of victory over the satanic power. They also 16 September 1918 g. Behind the city of Faithful in the grove of Baum for sermons directed against the new government, without trial or trial, the holy martyr Bishop of Vernensky and Semirechensky Pimen, now reckoned among the venerable saints, was brutally murdered.

29 July 1918, the Bolsheviks issued a decree on the confiscation of agricultural implements from the families of the Cossacks-insurgents, which doomed them to poverty and hunger10. In November 1919, the new government conducted the first violent mobilization of the Semirechensk Cossacks. The reason for this was the catastrophic situation of the Bolsheviks in Semirechye in connection with the defeat of the revolt of peasant villages with the center in the village of Cherkassy, ​​as well as the arrival of the 33-thousandth Separate Orenburg Army A.I. Dutov. There was a real opportunity for White to free the whole Semirechie from the Bolsheviks. In this situation, the Reds, fearing the uprising of the Semirechensky Cossacks in their rear, urgently conducted a mass mobilization of Cossacks in the territory of Vernensky Uezd. The mobilized were immediately sent far away from Semirechye to Chernyayev (now Chimkent), where from them the 1 Semirechensky Cossack Regiment was formed, sent further away from its native lands, to the Fergana Valley to fight the Basmachis. Reinforcements were urgently sent from Tashkent to Semirechye.

All the red parts of Semirechye were consolidated into the 3 Turkestan Rifle Division. In this situation, the Soviet government decided to temporarily change its policy of genocide against the Semirechensk Cossacks. For two years, while the Bolsheviks unleashed the Civil War in the Northern Semirechye, the main activities of the red units there were not so much military actions as general drinking, looting and killing unarmed residents of the villages. The facts of looting, drunkenness and ill-treatment of a peaceful Cossack population were so blatant and massive that even those who fought in the Seven Rivers in the ranks of the Reds were forced to admit to their memories. A striking confirmation of this fact is the characteristic of the Red Semirechye troops given in the spring of 1920 by the representative of the front of Turkestan D. Furmanov. In his report, the RVS of Turkfront Furmanov reported the following: “The troops of Semirechye, consisting of local residents of the middle peasants and partly of Cossacks, are a very cowardly gang, which has proven itself extremely vicious in battles.

The Red Army of Semirechye is not a defender of the Soviet government, but a threat to Islam and the Cossacks. ”11. Here it is necessary to take into account that this characteristic was given in 1920 year, when the Reds in the Northern Seven Rivers were already consolidated into a single military unit - the 3-th Infantry Division, with some discipline. Now, based on all of the above, it is easy to make a picture of what the red gangs were like in the 1918-19 year, when there was not even a faint hint of discipline in their ranks. The departure from the genocide policy of the Semirechensky Cossacks began when the 1919 Turkestan Rifle Division commanded 3 in December, when Belov arrived from Tashkent, who had been the commander of the Turkestan before. He categorically banned the execution of captured Semirechensk Cossacks.

Following this, Belov issued another order prohibiting violence, robbery and murder in the villages: "... Everything depends on you or help finish the front or push the Cossacks to further struggle ... Do not rape, do not mock, do not mock .. . "12. Shortly thereafter, on March 4 of 1920, the commander of the Turkfront Frunze issued an appeal “To the Semirechensky Cossacks and the Taranchin People”, in which it was noted that all those who participated in the hostilities against the Soviet authorities in the Semirechye, if they voluntarily lay down their arms, amnesty is declared : “A fierce civil war on the territory of Semirechye has lasted for two years. Burned villages, villages and auls, the ruin and impoverishment of the population, turned into a cemetery, first blooming land - all this was its result. Now is the time to end this senseless war. In the interests of a speedy and painless resolution of the bloody dispute on the margins of Seven Rivers, in the interests of complete reconciliation of all the working people of the region without distinction of faith, language and nationality, the Revolutionary Military Council decided that all Cossacks, taranchis, Kirghiz and others fighting now against the Red Army are guaranteed complete personal security, oblivion all crimes committed against workers 'and peasants' Russia, subject to the immediate expression of submissiveness to Soviet power, unconditional recognition, surrender of all stocks of weapons and military equipment xnumx.

In addition, the Bolshevik authorities promised that the formerly normal, violence carried out against the Semirechensky Cossacks would never happen again. Believing the promises of Frunze, as well as realizing that they alone after the defeat of the main part of the army of Admiral A.V. Kolchak not to stand, parts of the Separate Semirechensk army B.V. Annenkov at the end of March 1920. Laid down their arms. A part of the southern grouping of this army, consisting mainly of the Semirechensk Cossacks under the command of military sergeant Boyko, was surrounded by Kopalskaya stanitsa, surpassing it in numbers by the Red forces. The Semirechye Cossacks, having food only for a few days, and ammunition for only one battle, in view of the hopelessness of the situation 29 March 1920, laid down their arms. After that, the Cossacks who had surrendered were imprisoned in a camp in Verniy. Already in the camp, part of the Cossacks was arrested by the Cheka, there were cases of robbery of the Cossacks by the camp guard14.


The first phase of the Civil War in Semirechye, distinguished by the wide scale of military operations, was over. The sad result of it was the deserted, ruined and burned stanitsa. Thousands of Semirechensk Cossacks were killed in the fields of fratricidal war or became cripples. Many, having abandoned property, were forced to emigrate to China, where they had to stay for many decades. Part of the Cossacks never returned from exile. Thousands were subjected to mass mobilization and sent to shed their blood for the alien case of the hated regime. With the defeat of the Annenkov Separate Semirechensk Army, the civil confrontation in the province did not end. From the summer of 1920 to the end of 1922 in Semirechye, the second stage of the Civil War took place. Unlike the first, it was not accompanied by such large-scale military operations, but it was no less bloody and fierce. By the nature of the hostilities, the second phase of the Civil War in the Semirechensk region resembled its initial rebel period in the first half of 1918. The result of the tragic events of spring 1920 in Semirechye was the complete and final capture of the land by the Bolsheviks.

Despite the extremely unfavorable situation that had developed here for resistance, not all whites laid down their arms. A part of the Semirechensky Cossacks, led by the acting Ataman, Major General Shcherbakov, determined to continue the fight against the Bolshevik regime, went to the western Chinese province of Xinjiang and located in the city of Kuldzha located near the border. Atamans Annenkov and Dutov went to Xinjiang with their troops. In total, there were about 10 thousands of former whites, mostly Cossacks, in Western China. Once in emigration, the Semirechensk Cossacks immediately resumed an active armed struggle against the power of the Bolsheviks. The Cossacks made rapid raids on the territory of Soviet Russia, smashing the authorities and destroying the Reds. After that, they also suddenly disappeared, as they appeared.

In this raid war, the detachment under the command of Colonel Sidorov especially distinguished himself, who actively used these tactics back in the 1918-1920 years. The border between the Semirechensk region and Western China at that time resembled the front line. In turn, the Reds, trying to prevent the threat to their domination from the Cossacks who left behind the cordon of Cossacks, used all available means to fight them. The Cheka widely deployed an agent network among the Cossacks, significantly complicating their struggle with the Bolshevik regime. In addition, among the emigrated Cossacks, a propaganda campaign was actively pursued for their return. The cossacks tried in every way to persuade them to return home, promising to forget their participation in the white resistance and not to allow arbitrariness and violence against the Cossacks of 15. This campaign had only private success, and even then, only in the spring and summer of 1920. Some of the departed Cossacks could not endure the numerous hardships that had befallen them in a foreign land, their hunger, their homesickness and their loved ones, and, believing the promises, returned to Seven Rivers But all assurances and this time turned out to be a hoax - most of the returned Cossacks, after some time, were shot. Then only a small part of semi-Jews returned from emigration. When news of repression against Cossack repatriates reached the Cossacks in Xinjiang, the flow of returning quickly dried up. In the confrontation with the Cossacks who had taken refuge in Xinjiang, the new regime made extensive use of the power of this Chinese province. The Bolsheviks used the bribery of the corrupt Xinjiang authorities, and in the case of intransigence, they presented ultimatum demands, backed up by threats of military invasion of the territory of this provinceNNUMX. Using similar methods of influence, the Bolsheviks repeatedly sought permission to enter into the province of large punitive detachments that committed in the period from 16 to 1921. several raids on the Cossack settlements there 1924.

After the totalitarian regime was established throughout the territory of the Semirechensk region in the spring of 1920, the unrest of immigrant peasants began, caused by the proliferation of the surplus in the resettlement villages of Semirechye. The discontent was reinforced by the order issued by the commander of Turkfront to be sent to war with the Basmachis in the Fergana Valley, who did not want to leave the Seven Rivers 3 of the Turkestan rifle division, which consisted mainly of these same peasants-immigrants. The discontent resulted in the uprising of the five-thousandth garrison of Verny 1920 that took place in June 18. Shortly before the uprising, the Bolshevik authorities of the region, seeing that the control over the situation in the city was leaving their hands and, fearing the possible participation of Cossack prisoners in the imminent armed uprising, released them from the camp in early May.

Of the liberated Semirechensky Cossacks, whose age was not older than 30 years, cavalry units were formed and sent to fight Basmachi in the Fergana Valley. Cossacks, whose age was older than 30 years, bloomed through the villages. However, many older Cossacks were enrolled as volunteers in the cavalry units being formed, for fear of reprisals from the Bolshevik regime.

Sending Semirechensky Cossacks to the Ferghana front was made in order to weaken them, sending as many Cossacks of the most combat-able ages as possible away from their native places. Forced mobilization and sending of Semirechensky Cossacks to Fergana were carried out and subsequently during the entire period of active war with the Basmachis in Central Asia, until the liquidation of the Fergana Front in the summer of 1926. In an effort to take to the front as much of the Semerek as possible, the authorities sent even 16-year-old Cossacks to fight.

In the spring of 1920, it seemed to many seven years that the new government would finally leave the Cossacks alone. However, with the end of the fratricidal war, new troubles fell upon the Cossacks. The genocide conducted against them not only did not stop, but even intensified. Having disarmed Semirechensky Cossacks and weakened them with mass mobilizations, the new government conducted the next stage of revealing the Semireks.

Due to the fact that in the Northern Semirechye the Cossack resistance was defeated by the Reds only at the end of March 1920, in April of that same year another decree was issued on the liquidation of the Semirechensky Cossack army, identical to the order on the destruction of the army from June 2 1918 June 19 Renaming of villages and settlements was continued, and monuments related to the history and culture of the Semirechye Cossacks were destroyed everywhere.




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2 TsGA RK. F. 1363. Op. 1. D. 32. L. 8-10.
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  1. 0
    19 September 2012 08: 59
    I’ve never read a plus article, correctly written, even if it’s reposted ... Add something more and nothing ....
    Although about the totalitarian regime and the like it is still worth refraining, but the opinion of the author, and of course, adds colors ...

    Oh, they’ll throw them in slippers now
    1. 0
      19 September 2012 10: 24
      Well I said slippers throw at what pissing ... Well, to health)))
      1. Konrad
        -1
        19 September 2012 17: 50
        Quote: klimpopov

        Well I said slippers throw at what pissing.

        This is all commies maligned, there could be no other reaction!
        1. -1
          19 September 2012 18: 03
          No, well, there are moments in the article, there are statements in the style of the genre, but in general it is normal IMHO of course ...

          And cons, let them enjoy, even to the skulls ...
          Again, there are a lot of resources on the Internet ...
  2. +5
    19 September 2012 09: 06
    No, well, if you started for your health, then let's now and for peace ... I should share my thoughts on the "valiant" Cossacks who fought on the side of the Nazis in SS units and how many, after the defeat of the Nazis, found refuge in the United States.
    1. +4
      19 September 2012 09: 40
      And few Ukrainians / Belarusians / Russians went to the police, but few Cossacks fought with the Nazis?!? Cons from me ... Although I rarely put cons.
      Look at the photo and think.


      But Vlasov was not one of the Red Army?
      1. +5
        19 September 2012 09: 52
        Quote: klimpopov
        Look at the photo and think.

        Actually, I have a direct relationship to the Cossack family. My grandfather fought for the "Reds" and therefore, I believe him somehow more than the rehash of those from whom the "candle factory" was once seized. Hence the undisguised malice towards those who spoke out against the "world eaters". The seeds of Bolshevism fell on the manured soil.
        I will not put "minus", a lot of honor ...
        1. 0
          19 September 2012 10: 19
          They did not confiscate the candle factories, they worked honestly and fought honestly for the "red" ones, and you "pull out" only what you need ... It makes no sense to talk further ...
        2. mongoose
          -1
          19 September 2012 11: 36
          understandably, he killed his brothers and enjoyed it
      2. mongoose
        -5
        19 September 2012 11: 36
        in general, this is our tragedy that there was so much Judas during the Second World War, but this is not an undeniable merit of the Soviet government, robbing and killing its own people
      3. MI-AS-72
        +2
        19 September 2012 21: 56
        Kuban Cossack, the hero of the 1st MV and WWII.
    2. Konrad
      0
      19 September 2012 17: 53
      Quote: Understudy
      on the topic of the "valiant" Cossacks who fought on the side of the Nazis in SS units

      You say this to the Don or neighboring Kuban, then there’s definitely nothing to write about!
      1. Hon
        +1
        20 September 2012 09: 09
        And what will happen if you say this in the Don or the Kuban, the Cossacks fighters come out from under the shops and begin to sing songs?
  3. +6
    19 September 2012 09: 18
    Yes, the Cossacks just during the Civil War jumped from red to white ... oh, there was a terrible time ....
    1. +4
      19 September 2012 09: 42
      Yes, just the Cossacks are also not a homogeneous society, among them were the poor and wealthy ...
      At the expense of time, this is true, brother brother was killing ...
      Time is always "terrible" question of worldview ...
  4. mongoose
    0
    19 September 2012 09: 45
    Himself from the Don, great-grandfather and my grandfather’s brothers were shot by Latvians under the command of a Schnobelman, I hate it! will not forgive!
    1. 0
      19 September 2012 09: 47
      Yes, the donors got more pain +, mine was dumped in the KCR, they worked there, although a lot remained in Nevinka, they were somehow afraid of it ...
  5. dmb
    +8
    19 September 2012 10: 20
    What has always distinguished the singers of the White Cossacks. so it is blatant ignorance. Here in the comments. some also actively hate the "Bolshevik" government. I would like to draw their enlightened attention to the fact that the author of the opus writes not so much about the Bolsheviks and all kinds of workers there, but about the peasants. It turns out these were also bastards. Well, that's all. except for the Semirechye Cossacks (and even then not all of them) were bad, and these were blameless youths. If you are so principled and so hated this power, so why did you eat along with all those social benefits? who were up to 91. They would refuse in principle from free education and health care. would buy gasoline at US prices, not a glass of water, would not pull subsidies for agriculture. Damn haters.
    1. mongoose
      +1
      19 September 2012 11: 22
      ate good? or maybe they were still sitting in the district committees? mine plowed like dad carlo and you don’t have to judge it, by the way my grandfather ended the war with the foreman of the reconnaissance, with a red star and courage, and respected Dzhugashvilli very much for the fact that he shot quite a few snobelmans
      1. dmb
        +5
        19 September 2012 12: 42
        Well, I told you - ignorance. multiplied by rudeness. Well, first of all, not very respectable, it is customary to say "you" when addressing strangers. Secondly. You will not refuse a reaction. Your initial comment was about your great-grandfather and grandfather. later the grandfather turned into his brothers. You would have decided in the family or something. Thirdly, I want to remind you that Dzhugashvili aka Stalin was a communist whom you hate so vehemently, and his goal was to build socialism, for which he did a lot. including shooting. And not always those. who should be. and not necessarily shnobelmans. (see bigoraphy, say Mehlis). And finally, why, after all, you and those like you did not refuse the benefits imposed on you by the sworn commies. Where is your adherence to principles?
        1. mongoose
          0
          21 September 2012 11: 42
          I understand at once that YOU are used to reasoning in black and white, life is more complicated!
          building socialism? and what kind of fruit is this? socialism? What did the Jewish occupation of Russia bring? loss of part of the territories! crushing it by ethnicity itself! (here it is a mine that destroyed the territorial integrity of Russia (USSR)!
          maybe people began to live better? ask about this starvation! hard workers before the coup carried out by the Jews in October 1917 lived much better!
          benefits imposed by commies? which ones? no paycheck? maybe pioneer camps? so would you pay what you would do without them?
          education? and who told you that before the coup were illiterate? and moreover, they themselves could receive an education (by the way, the same higher education is free in RI)
          we are still experiencing the Soviet tradition of not paying people money for work
      2. Hon
        0
        20 September 2012 09: 50
        Dzhugashvili, together with these shnobelmanami made a revolution, and shot them because he did not need competition. By the way, not a few Cossacks suffered during collectivization and dispossession. On January 25, 1931, the Cossacks were deported to the Kuban in the number of 9 families, about 000 people from the Black Sea regions were evicted to the development of the arid regions of Stavropol and Salsk steppes. During 45-000, at least 1930 Cossacks from various regions were arrested and deported, mostly from the Ural region and former territories of the Cossacks in the North Caucasus.
        PS When expressing your love for Shnobelmanov, do not forget that, for example, General Lev Rokhlin was also a Jew.
        1. mongoose
          0
          21 September 2012 11: 42
          Yeah, competition, but I do not care! award found heroes!
          Dzhugashvilli became that Stalin as we know him only in 37, at 17 he entered at best in the first 20
          1. Hon
            0
            21 September 2012 14: 51
            Quote: mongoose
            award found heroes!


            The same can be said about Cossacks.
  6. +10
    19 September 2012 10: 31
    do not oppose the Cossacks to the Russian people! No need to incite hatred within us! My grandfather was a Cossack - he was not subjected to repression or persecution! A civil war is a civil war! And how many Beklokazaks mocked and shot at not only the Red Guards, but also the civilian population! Moreover, they were armed by the West and fought for the money of the West! The same thing is happening now in the Caucasus! Why are military actions intensified ??? Almost war is going on again. Because the West is arming not only the Syrian opposition, but also anti-Russian bandits with the active support of Georgia.
    Only the blind or ... can spread gossip about the repressed Cossacks, playing into the hands of the pro-Western opposition trying to split the Russians !!!
    1. mongoose
      -3
      19 September 2012 11: 25
      White Cossacks? mocked? do not know where the Cossack uprising began? with outrage Bolshevichkov
      1. +6
        19 September 2012 12: 39
        I do not know how many times I have already written about my great-great-grandfather "Verkh-Donskoy" Cossack, I will write again. My great-great-grandfather at the beginning of the twentieth century became an officer of the Imperial Guard (I cannot remember the exact name now) and served in Petrograd, during the civil war began to fight for the "whites" and soon became one of the main officers of Dennik, but realizing that honor and oath "Tsar-father" does not justify the war against his people, he surrendered to the Reds. He knew that he was facing the death penalty, since he was a white officer.
        So, when he said goodbye to his family, he told his great-grandfather and his brothers that no one else in the family would fight, breaking, with these words, his damask saber (I think everyone knows what expensive weapon it was then).
        Why am I writing all this, but what’s the matter, it’s not whether you are white or red, but what kind of person you were, if the family is important for one, he will do everything so that the relatives live well, sacrificing their lives or if you the egoist and the toad strangles you, lose your possessions and officer rank, etc.
        After the death of his great-great-grandfather (he was arrested by the way, my one is my great-great-grandfather on my mother’s side), most of his lines turned red and still are. My ancestors did not run away from the country and lived, and worked like everyone else, for which they were awarded many social labor awards and military orders in the Second World War.
        The USSR is not evil for the Cossacks, but for Orthodox fanatics, egoists, and others ... who do not give personalities, nor what public benefit!
        1. Ares1
          0
          19 September 2012 16: 28
          Quote: TiGRoO
          The USSR is not evil for the Cossacks, but for Orthodox fanatics, egoists, and others ... who do not give personalities, nor what public benefit!

          Here you seem to be from a Cossack family, but for some reason you reason like a militant atheist ... Normal Cossacks, friendly with their heads and hearts, were essentially Russian people. And, as the Russian writer FMD said? Russian means Orthodox! Therefore, I do not understand you when we are talking about Orthodox fanatics. Only with Vera did the Cossacks create their homes and families, and from one generation to another this Faith was passed on and punished. And to lay down his life for his friends is the most Christian truth. Forgot tea, how did Sholokhov thank each other (in everyday life) and the Red and White Cossacks at the dawn of the collapse of the Cossacks, before they started killing each other everywhere? For goodness, regardless of the color, it always flew from the mouth: "Save Khrsitos!" ...
      2. MI-AS-72
        -1
        19 September 2012 21: 54
        No, just the civil war began, that the revolutionary guys did not agree on the division of "spheres of influence", who and how much will receive from Russia, and the Russian people turned out to be the extreme. As in 1991, again with the same Jewish Masons in the forefront, they destroyed the country for the “good of the people”. How it was done one quote of one of the leaders of the "democrats" of 80, G.Kh. Popova: "In order to achieve general popular indignation, WE SHOULD BRING THE TRADE SYSTEM to such a state that nothing can be acquired. Thus, it is possible to achieve general strikes of workers in Moscow." Then he announced the creation of the 1000th White Carnation Guard in the city. An ordinary "guardsman" received 2500 rubles in it, an "officer" - 300 rubles. (The salary of the secretary of the district committee of the CPSU at that time was 350-XNUMX rubles).
      3. Denzel13
        0
        20 September 2012 01: 51
        Another victim from the regime was found.
      4. Beck
        0
        21 September 2012 12: 05
        Mongoose.

        Yes, it's hard for you to fight back, but hold on.
  7. +4
    19 September 2012 10: 36
    In this heap of essays about the Cossacks, there is a small grain of truth. About the revival of the Cossacks in 1990: "RYAZHENYE", the Cossack is not a title, but a lifestyle. The Cossacks were and will be and there is no need to revive what is. "Your grandfather is a Cossack, a father-son is a Cossack, and you are fucking doggy" this is about mummers! Article minus
    1. mongoose
      -2
      19 September 2012 11: 25
      you yourself mummers
  8. +3
    19 September 2012 11: 10
    It is sharply against this article, all these cries about the genocide of Jews of the Ukrainians of the Cossacks somehow forget about the death of a great power. You begin to feel more pity than others, but what did you do to protect your world? not for nothing! No wonder IVStalin praised the Silent Don panorama of Cossack life with their little talk and vacillation and complete inaction at the peak of a tense struggle. If there was real genocide, then only experts would reason about the Cossacks. The class of Cossacks lived in our society and that’s all the changes affected both the Cossacks and the poor and bureaucratic arbitrariness and inequality within the Cossacks and sweeping away with collapsed imperia. Do not forget the Cossack Budenny with his horse army, because the Reds were also supported by not a small part of the Cossacks. .
    1. mongoose
      -8
      19 September 2012 11: 28
      the death of the USSR was laid at its birth, a country created by ideological and physical violence cannot be long-lasting, it is impossible to constantly organize a massacre for the sake of a brighter future, relying on the lower classes of society and constantly destroying those who have achieved success in any way, whether in education in hard work
      1. +4
        19 September 2012 13: 48
        Quote: mongoose
        the death of the USSR was laid at its birth, a country created by ideological and physical violence cannot be durable

        Then, following your logic, all the states of the world will collapse (and many of the existing ones should have collapsed several times already). Any state is created through violence (well, maybe Monaco or Liechtenstein is an exception). And your words about A CONSTANT class slaughter for the sake of a brighter future. A certain future was built, and not cut out for it, certain sections of the population until 1991. And when did they destroy people in the USSR for being educated, hardworking and successful? You listen to less Novodvorskaya and you will happiness.
        1. Beck
          -5
          19 September 2012 14: 08
          Revnaganu.

          Build a brighter future? They were building in the wrong direction. But if they didn’t cut it, they always repressed. They sent intillegtion by steamboats. The kulaks were dispossessed because they were hardworking and lived in abundance. Factories were selected from successful ones.

          And why did the USSR fall apart? But because they built something wrong. How do you know how to hide long lines, empty counters, a one-handed vacation of only one loaf of wallpaper flour for 16 kopecks, and one kilogram of rice behind demagogy about a good past. Shots of workers in Temirtau and Novocherkassk, and much much more.

          If they lived full, the USSR would not fall apart. And in order to live, a working economy would be well needed. But it was not built.
          1. +3
            19 September 2012 19: 12
            Quote: Beck
            Build a brighter future? They were building in the wrong direction. But if they didn’t cut, they always repressed

            They repressed, unfortunately, not everyone (who I mean, no need to explain?). For empty shelves in stores, a separate "thanks" to the Yeltsin gang, provoking riots and rotting tobacco, meat, vegetables in railway trains. And on the fists, TWO great-grandfathers themselves were ruled by the kulaks, they ran at night to the collective farm, to see how their cows and horses were there. But the industry was rebuilt so that when the time came, they were able to turn the shafts across Europe. starve. Who wanted to work, please. People went to the North, bought cars, apartments in a year or two. But it was bad for the farts, the parasites who were killed. That's what they howl how difficult it is for them.
            1. Beck
              -1
              19 September 2012 22: 17
              Revnaganu.

              Yeltsin's empty shelves are the legacy of the communists. I talked about the USSR before the collapse. So he bought and ate wallpaper bread as a boy. Fascism was not defeated by the Communists, but by the people, and the Russian people endured a great burden. Industry Stalin created selling crops for several years, which caused hunger in the early 30s. The collective farmers were not given a passport and they could only go to the district center. 12 year old boys were tried for three plucked collective farm spikelets. Farua appeared only because of a shortage. There would be no shortage of where farce would come from. And the farmers in those times lived much better than the worker, what should they howl.
            2. mongoose
              -1
              21 September 2012 11: 47
              Of course, it was necessary to everyone who graduated from school to represet!
          2. MI-AS-72
            +4
            19 September 2012 21: 43
            It is clear that then “all the best people” were destroyed, “the intillegence was expelled by steamers.” Therefore, only slaves, like Beck, built and defended the country. That is why the united forces of continental Europe under the leadership of Adolf Hitler could not cope with it.
            True, under the "ineffective USSR" the forces and means were enough for the strongest army in the world, capable of withstanding the combined forces of the "golden billion", and for the best overall education in the world, and for free universal health care, and for brilliant science, and for space , and for a decent life for everyone, not for the elite, and for kindergartens, and pioneer camps, and free sports for everyone, and even to support the socialist system and communist parties around the world, as well as many other things. Now all this is gone, "the ballast has been dropped," all allies are betrayed, everything that is possible has been destroyed and sold, but for some reason there is no money for anything. Built then, now under the leadership of "effective managers" and "effective owners", we cannot now, let alone repeat, even repair. This is to the question of which system is more effective and which one was led by People and Heroes, and which one - scum and traitors such as an upside-down bek.
            1. mongoose
              -1
              21 September 2012 11: 50
              cool! and there was no army in Ingushetia? all the achievements of Soviet power, these are the achievements on the one hand of the Russian scientific school created back in the Empire and ripping off the people, on behalf and on behalf of the "people", the standard of living in the USSR, if ordinary people reached the level of pre-revolutionary workers and peasants, then only by the end of the USSR during Brezhnev, after half a century of poverty
          3. Hon
            +1
            20 September 2012 10: 00
            And the abundance in the shops and the lack of lines are worth the price we paid? There was no AIDS in the union, there were very few drug addicts, the old women did not fight, the children who didn’t need to roll around breathing glue, the crime bosses did not rule the ball. There is really one significant plus if you correlate today's salary and salary in the USSR with the price of vodka, then you will be able to buy much more vodka.
            1. mongoose
              +1
              21 September 2012 11: 52
              storyteller! and the old women were begging! and speed appeared even with hunchback! and there were nariks, and there was crime! and the mafia was cutting grandmothers in the regional committees-regional committees, they just didn’t talk about it.
              ps my grandmother, all her life plowing on the farm received a pension of 36 rubles! it's like nothing to yourself do not refuse!
        2. mongoose
          -1
          21 September 2012 11: 47
          I don’t understand somewhere else they preach class hatred? and millions of brothers are slaughtered? By the way, the Kampucheans followed the path of blank brackets, the result is known
      2. 16
        16
        +3
        19 September 2012 21: 14
        in the USSR there was a free education, medicine !!!!!!!!! in tsarist Russia, IT WAS NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!! although CIVIL WAR IS ALWAYS NOT GOOD !!!!!! !!!! VERY SOFTLY SPEAKING !!!!!!!!!!
        1. mongoose
          0
          21 September 2012 11: 54
          parish schools, universities, were free (the first were kept by parishes. the second by the imperial treasury)
          Is medicine free? nu-nu, a bottle of brandy, imported drugs, packaging worth a monthly salary! and at the same time a beggarly salary, teachers' doctors
      3. Hon
        +1
        20 September 2012 09: 53
        The death of the Russian Empire was also embedded in the autocracy.
        1. mongoose
          -1
          21 September 2012 11: 55
          Yeah, then the death of the USSR was laid in the autocracy of the Secretary General
          1. Hon
            -1
            21 September 2012 14: 57
            Well, in general, yes, strategic leadership mistakes (primarily economic) led to the collapse of the USSR. The bad news is that the consequences of such a collapse hit the people painfully, although not as painfully as they were 17 years old.
    2. Konrad
      -1
      19 September 2012 17: 59
      Quote: apro

      Sharply against this article, all these cries about the genocide of Jews of the Ukrainians of the Cossacks somehow forget about the death of a great power

      Because she fell apart, because throughout her history, power has strangled her people!
      1. +5
        19 September 2012 21: 42
        This is where the expression "reached out, damn" came from))
        And the people are so accustomed to being strangled that when in 1991 they stopped - under the new merciful and god-bearing authorities, they began to die out at an accelerated pace ... He is strange, people request
        1. Konrad
          0
          20 September 2012 18: 22
          Quote: Mikhado
          He is strange, people

          The people were not ready for freedom, all the shit bloomed in a riotous color! It’s impossible without a stick. As the saying goes, give a fool a glass of horseradish - or break or lose!
        2. mongoose
          -2
          21 September 2012 11: 57
          reduction began in the USSR! this is just a consequence of the second wave of the Jewish occupation of Russia! count on your relatives how many gave birth a hundred years ago, fifty and twenty! it was under the "soviets" that replacing the men who died of hunger and executed men, they drove the women to the bench, and allowed infanticide! destroyed the sacred bonds of marriage!
  9. +5
    19 September 2012 11: 11
    The Cossacks are a complex topic, they began as a free army, defenders of the Russian land and the Orthodox faith, and then what? someone considers them noble warriors, someone the watchdogs of tsarism. Now they really sink to the level of mummers, some of them even oppose the "noble" Cossacks to the population of the rest of Russia. Oh guys, and the Cossacks, with the right policy, could become an example for the whole country, an example of patriotism, honesty, courage.
    1. mongoose
      -3
      19 September 2012 11: 29
      chain dogs? tsarism? Nu-nu, it’s a pity that they didn’t slaughter all these Jews - the socialists who betrayed Russia during the war, I want to remind you, some people sent Dzhugashvilli for this
      1. +4
        19 September 2012 12: 43
        Your favorite Cossack women in 1918-1920 were reminded of the atrocities they committed in 1905-1907, while suppressing peasant unrest. They hung, flogged, burned - behaved like occupants. Count up - Orthodox Christians. So they remembered them a bit later, they put themselves outside the REST of the Russian people, one word "foreigner" was worth what, that is, any non-Cossack is already an Untermensch, the second grade.
        No wonder, oh, no wonder some "true" sang so gloriously with Adik - one field of berries.
        Article-chan with shit, pure provocation.
        1. Konrad
          -1
          19 September 2012 18: 07
          Quote: Mikhado

          In 1918-1920, your beloved Cossacks recalled the atrocities committed by them in 1905-1907

          They dispersed all the abominations (in the cities), which caused unrest, destroyed the Russian Empire. The commies didn’t forgive them, they still hiss.
          1. +2
            19 September 2012 21: 30
            You, a sick person, know how to read - in the villages, it is written, people were offended, mocked at last in all. Then they got a return - and look, they still hiss, complain.
            1. Konrad
              0
              20 September 2012 06: 40
              Quote: Mikhado
              you know how to read - in the villages, it is written

              They’re not even writing on the fence! Slander, the method commie. That's what they write on your avatar!
          2. Hon
            -1
            20 September 2012 10: 10
            Chapaev was a villager and not a city dweller. He considered the Cossacks as world-eaters and stranglers of the people. So the Cossacks got what they deserved, and they hiss just because they became losers.
            1. mongoose
              -1
              21 September 2012 11: 59
              Yeah, I thought! He only finished well when his Jew Furmanol framed
              1. Hon
                +1
                21 September 2012 14: 58
                Cossacks finished better?
        2. mongoose
          0
          21 September 2012 11: 58
          it was a pity that they were kind-hearted; little were flogged by the Busoters and the Jewish Socialists did not hang! Jews the Bolsheviks shot with pleasure
          1. Hon
            -2
            21 September 2012 14: 59
            It was for these flogging of the Cossacks that they were slaughtered like pigs, the warriors weren’t as dashing grunts as they imagined themselves)))
  10. +4
    19 September 2012 12: 34
    The tragedy of the Cossacks is vividly described in Sholokhov's book "Quiet Don", I advise those who have not read to read.
    1. 0
      19 September 2012 13: 51
      Quote: Apollon



      Apollo

      Well, actually, I heard a slightly different version, the well-known phrase: "If I had Cossacks, I would have conquered the whole world" long before Napoleon Bonaparte said Yevgeny Savoysky. And he spoke about the Zaporozhye Cossacks.
  11. Beck
    -2
    19 September 2012 12: 38
    Cossacks are part of the Russian people. Faithfully serving his Fatherland at the forefront. Cossacks knew how to fight and were able to plow and sow, so there were dashing wars and helpable farmers. Therefore, they lived in abundance.

    And this wealth was the main enemy of the power of the Bolsheviks. Materially independent will not bow to the authorities in anything. A starving person will always ask for pants and food, that is, he will always be addicted. Therefore, they dispossessed, and therefore created collective farms where there was nothing of their own. And the prosperous layer of the Cossacks was an eyesore in the eyes of the Bolsheviks.

    Here, some say that the Cossacks fought for the Germans in WWII. So not only the Cossacks, but many. And they fought not for FASCISM, but against the COMMUNISTS in the ranks of the German army. Then no one knew about the anti-human theory of fascism. Only after the liberation of the concentration camps did the world know the truth.

    And that prompted the Soviet people to resistance. Yes, the power itself is a commie. Name at least one social stratum of Russia that would not be subjected to violence by the Bolsheviks. There are no such. The peasants, and the workers, and the intelligence, and science were subjected to repression. At first she killed the power of people, and then she was surprised that they did not like her, that they resisted her.
    1. +4
      19 September 2012 19: 21
      Quote: Beck
      Cossacks knew how to fight and were able to plow and sow, so there were dashing wars and helpable farmers. Therefore, they lived in abundance.

      Not quite so. The Cossacks, in comparison with ordinary peasants, had material advantages - land, mowing, tax benefits, that is, exclusive rights. If ALL grain growers had the same rights, then there might not have been a Revolution. , of course, the peasantry (and they constituted the majority of the population of the Russian Empire at the beginning of the 20th century), to put it mildly, disliked the Cossacks, with all the ensuing consequences. And the Cossacks fought against the Bolsheviks only for the restoration of their property rights and an exceptional situation. Well, so that the "rebellious cattle" (their own people) could be punished and put in place.
      1. 16
        16
        +2
        19 September 2012 21: 18
        I fully support !!!!!!
      2. Beck
        0
        19 September 2012 22: 49
        Revnaganu.

        Of course there were privileges for the Cossack estate, but there were also increased obligations .. And there were skirmishes between peasants and Cossacks. And other classes were in turmoil. But this is more to everyday life. A revolution might not have happened if Stolypin had not been killed. So he gave land to the peasants at great privileges. And the Tambov men fought with the Bolsheviks for the restoration of their property rights and human positions. Even more than the Cossacks had the privileges of the guard dragoon regiments.
      3. mongoose
        -1
        21 September 2012 12: 00
        Yeah, and the right to die first for Faith, Tsar and Fatherland! or do you think that the defenders of the Fatherland should be holostany?
        1. Hon
          -1
          21 September 2012 15: 03
          Soldiers from peasants gained mortality on the battlefield among soldiers was higher than among Cossacks. Cossacks did not use cannon fodder, so the Cossacks did not have the right to die first.
          1. Konrad
            +1
            22 September 2012 16: 23
            Quote: Hon
            mortality on the battlefield among soldiers was higher than among Cossacks

            Cossacks from childhood prepared for military service, so they were more skilled and did not die by stupidity.
            1. Hon
              0
              23 September 2012 19: 46
              The Cossacks are just light cavalry and reconnaissance, release cuirassiers against them and the only thing left for them to flee. And why didn’t the training help them during the civil? Cossacks were peasants.
    2. 16
      16
      +1
      19 September 2012 21: 17
      excesses were of course !!!!!!!! with commies like YOU write Kazakhstan today is a sovereign state !!!!!!!! although with a good threat, I mean China-Kazakhstan will not stand !!!!!!!!!!
      1. Beck
        -2
        19 September 2012 23: 12
        16 revsln.

        Kazakhstan will not stand against China .. There is no conversation. And what does it mean if the topic on the page is completely different. Kazakhstan will not stand before Russia, and before America, and before Idia, and before NATO.

        Or how, we will still discuss whether Bulgaria will withstand NATO. That's when this topic will be then we will talk about it.
        1. 16
          16
          +1
          21 September 2012 21: 55
          and I mean that the USSR would have resisted !!!!! with its excesses with the Cossacks !!!!!!
    3. MI-AS-72
      0
      19 September 2012 21: 22
      Quote: Beck
      would be subjected to violence by the Bolsheviks. There are no such. The peasants, and the workers, and the intelligence, and science were subjected to repression. At first she killed the power of people, and then she was surprised that they did not like her, that they resisted her.

      IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO KEEP ALL OF US FOR HOOKS, AND FOR ALL SOVIET PEOPLE SHUSHING IN A RAG
      It is no secret to anyone that the February Revolution of 1917 and the collapse of the Soviet system in 1991 were not “Russian revolutions”. . They were successful conspiracies within the ruling elite, with the participation and support of the West, where the main role, and often the role of executioners, was played by the people of your Jewish-Masonic leaven. The main goal has always been one, the destruction of Russia as a sovereign strong state and the foundation of its Russian people. Facts please, there is Bronstein’s letter of emigration to repress Stalin, against the old Bolshevik-Leninists, he wrote: “When we were shot, we knew who to shoot. You’re already shooting revolutionaries, but you still have to shoot the native Russian estates, schoolgirls, engineers, architects and tear down the crosses. ”
      So, you don’t have to lie, although you have to give credit to the Himmler applauds, such a last-minute walk around the world.
      1. mongoose
        -1
        21 September 2012 12: 03
        those who believe in comm .. in the idea of ​​class violence, general robberies (17-37, 91-00goda) as a result of which some shouted for socialism, and their great-grandchildren, great-grandchildren for democracy and liberalism! and as a result, the first and second fattened, and the Russian people were impoverished and there is a sucker!
  12. +2
    19 September 2012 12: 43
    To complete the picture, one should listen to the representatives of the Semirechye peasantry and the Kirghiz. It seems to me that Mr. Annenkov (not a Decembrist) was not inferior in "creativity" to Mr. Muraev, and to mourn the innocent Cossacks and forget at the same time no less innocent nonresidents is somewhat subjective. All "connoisseurs of history" should start "dancing from the stove" and recall the Law of January 27 / February 9, 1918. Without whitewashing the Bolsheviks, I want to say about the sequence of their actions. Their logic may not be justified, but it is quite understandable. The same cannot be said about their opponents.
    1. Beck
      -5
      19 September 2012 12: 56
      Rehbu.

      Evil always begets evil. Who first started is the one in response.

      rexbu - "Their logic may not be justified, but it is quite understandable"

      Everything can be explained. Crusades and wars of ghazavat with the shedding of many bloodshed. Inquisition. Racism. Communism. Fascism. Murder. Mockery.

      All vices of humanity can be explained.
      1. +3
        19 September 2012 19: 49
        So explain why all of Russia was allegedly against the Bolsheviks, but they won. I hint at the vices of the White movement. And what you have listed (racism, communism, fascism, etc.) is called one common word - civilization.
        1. Beck
          0
          19 September 2012 23: 03
          Rehbu.

          The fact of the matter is that not all of Russia. The Bolsheviks defeated them because of deception, false slogans, unfulfilled promises. Land to the peasants. Factories and factories for workers. Equality. Brotherhood. Holy calls. It is because of freedom that people followed the Bolsheviks. Which of these promises was fulfilled by the Bolsheviks. They gave the land - what was taken away. They gave the factories to the workers - only the owner was replaced by the capitalist, the state became. Equality lies in the lack of rights of the people and privileges to the secretaries.

          The white movement could not put forward false slogans, so it knew that if they give the word, they must be carried out.

          This is my vision. Others may have something else. But for the opposite opinion, I do not minus. I am talking.
          1. 0
            20 September 2012 18: 18
            White movement could not put forward false slogans


            It, this White Movement, simply did not know what slogans to put forward
            1. Beck
              -1
              20 September 2012 20: 58
              Rehbu.

              And there it is. It simply fought the Bolsheviks and spoke directly about it, but simply could not promise the whole land to the peasants.
            2. mongoose
              -1
              21 September 2012 12: 05
              people just had a conscience and patriotism
              1. +1
                21 September 2012 18: 26
                Someone was, someone was not. I would not even mention patriotism at all.
        2. mongoose
          -1
          21 September 2012 12: 04
          there are always a lot of suckers believing in fairy tales about milk rivers and the jelly banks, and then in the 90s and now
  13. grizzlir
    +5
    19 September 2012 14: 16
    Together with the new Great Troubles that began in 1917 in the Russian state, the genocide of the Cossacks originates, which lasted for 74 years with different intensitiesThe author is reminiscent of the offended Jew who complains about the Jewish claims in Russia. As for what happened after the 17th year, it was a difficult time. The Bolsheviks also broke a lot of firewood, but there was no need to justify those who opposed the Soviet regime with arms. If the Reds wanted to exterminate all the Cossacks, as the author assures us, probably they would have succeeded. I just want to ask how so many Cossack, including volunteer, formations that heroically fought against the invaders came from at the beginning of the Second World War.
    But I remember one story from childhood, my grandmother, born in 1904, told that the Cossacks nearly ruined my ramp to death. They thought that he hid the grain. They retreated under the blows of the Red Army and drove cattle with them and took out all the food, nothing leaving to local residents. Those who asked to leave something were beaten. Wait for hunger, let the commissars feed you. But I think how much later the villagers voluntarily went to serve in the Red Army and to whom they took revenge.
    1. Ares1
      +3
      19 September 2012 16: 34
      Not the Cossacks in this case. Civil war - it’s worse not to think of a war. And under the guise you can rob and shoot for yourself, unfortunately. Not always the cause of the shooting in those days and in those places was politics. Genetics is still an exact science ...
    2. mongoose
      -1
      21 September 2012 12: 06
      not tired of lying? Cossacks didn’t deal with food surplus!
  14. gribnik777
    -4
    19 September 2012 15: 01
    Quote: grizzlir
    Red Army and drove cattle with them and took out all the food, leaving nothing to the locals. Those who asked to leave something were beaten


    Let's replace the first two words with the phrase: "During the surplus appropriation system, the Bolsheviks ...."
    1. grizzlir
      +2
      19 September 2012 15: 13
      This was even before the food development. But the famine in the villages was directly related to the actions of the retreating White Guards.
      1. mongoose
        -1
        21 September 2012 12: 07
        nonsense! in the village only loafers always starved
        1. +1
          21 September 2012 18: 30
          You wrote nonsense
        2. Konrad
          -1
          22 September 2012 16: 33
          Quote: mongoose
          in the village only loafers always starved

          Gold words! I fully support, the old people said so! I suggest you watch the movie "Jack the Eight American".
          1. Hon
            +1
            23 September 2012 19: 50
            It is brilliant to evaluate the story based on the films))) Then watch the movie "when the Cossacks cry"
    2. +2
      19 September 2012 15: 56
      Quote: gribnik777
      Let's replace the first two words with the phrase: "During the surplus appropriation system, the Bolsheviks ...."


      Food surplus (reduction from the phrase industrial food breakdown) - in Russia, a system of government measures implemented during the periods of military and economic crises aimed at fulfilling harvesting of agricultural products. The principle of surplus-appraisal consisted in the obligatory delivery by the producers of the state of the established (“deployed”) product standards at prices established by the state.
      The first surplus was introduced in the Russian Empire on December 2, 1916, at the same time, the previously existing system of public procurement in the free market was preserved.
      Due to the low supply of bread for state procurement and surplus apportionment, on March 25, 1917, the Provisional Government introduced a bread monopoly, which envisaged the transfer of the entire volume of produced bread minus the established consumption standards for personal and household needs.
      1. Beck
        -2
        19 September 2012 18: 07
        To Alexus.

        But, after all, this is no reason to sweep everything clean.
      2. mongoose
        -1
        21 September 2012 12: 09
        So what? she was then a tax in kind, and not rampant robberies and robberies! He was interested in this topic, and so the villages rebelled when they came to them for the second third time. when they took the landing iserno and what people needed to eat, sell and buy clothes
  15. +4
    19 September 2012 15: 58
    An article in the best traditions of the post-Soviet period ... Maybe enough ... tired of ... anti-people regime ... genocide. Maybe something new to say ... For example, over the past 20 years ... about anti-people and genocide
    1. +1
      19 September 2012 18: 48
      For the genocide of the Russian people, the organizer received the highest award of the Russian Federation, the Order of "Andrew the First-Called"
  16. Zmitcer
    0
    19 September 2012 16: 57
    I do not understand those who claim that the article is false. Tell us how it was. Tell us that there was no food surplus, there was no genocide, there were no murders and there were no orders about the inadmissibility of these killings. Well? And so in the comments so far only the discontent of the dissatisfied with the truth is read. Those who broke their saber, tore off the cross, chopped up their fellow tribesmen under the red banner and took the last from them so that those who were not killed would starve to death are your heroes? ...
    1. Konrad
      -1
      19 September 2012 18: 14
      Quote: Zmitcer

      I do not understand those who claim that the article is false.

      Well said ! Can you understand those who modestly spoke about themselves like this - "MIND, HONOR AND CONSCIOUSNESS OF OUR EPOCH", while their own hands are in the blood of their own people.
      1. +1
        19 September 2012 21: 36
        Can you really understand those whose idol in their mind is the governor of God himself on earth, who profiled the country entrusted to him with the name "Bloody" ...
        1. mongoose
          -1
          21 September 2012 12: 11
          absolutely ??? Togo? viceroy of God? have you mixed up with the anointed? ignoramus? and I lost the Russo-Japanese War not without the help of the Socialists! country profuca? and people like you didn’t destroy it? so whose fault is more? His or yours and people like you?
    2. +4
      19 September 2012 18: 55
      With the same success, I can accuse yours of serving Hitler - Krasnov's "Cossacks".
      It is easy to accuse, we are talking about the so-called "mummers". Not all of them served in the Armed Forces or in other law enforcement agencies, while wearing "St. George's Crosses", orders and medals, conferring titles, etc. So, what do they have from the COSSACKS apart from their form and impudence?
      1. mongoose
        -1
        21 September 2012 12: 12
        by the way, I condemn, but I want to remind you that, unlike Vlasov, they were not citizens of the USSR and they had something to avenge the commissars of
  17. +5
    19 September 2012 18: 18
    My grandfather and his countrymen also fought for the Reds. In old age, summed up: "The cunning fool will always deceive."
    But in general, the article described is only part of a plan that, thanks to Joseph Vissarionovich, was not completed.
    This is the plan I wrote at the beginning of 90-x for myself, without noting the source. Maybe - who knows. Here he is:
    “We have to turn Russia into a desert inhabited by white Negroes, to whom we will give such a tyranny, which has never dreamed of the most terrible despots of the East. The only difference is that this tyranny will not be to the right, but to the left and to white, but red. For we will shed such blood flows, before which all human losses will tremble and turn pale. The largest bankers from overseas will work in close contact with us. If we win the revolution, crush Russia, then on the burial rubble we will strengthen our power and become such a force in front of which the whole world will kneel. We will show what real power is. By terror, bloody baths, we will bring the Russian intelligentsia to a complete stupefaction, to the idiocy of the animal state.
    Leon Trotsky. "
    It is doubly insulting that when the Russian people digested communism and built a superpower, the Russian intelligentsia again took to the songs of the descendants of the Trotskyists and destroyed already Soviet Russia.
    1. +2
      19 September 2012 19: 02
      You forget that there was Yeltsin. You do not know about the actual civil war in the USSR organized by Gorbachev. There were always communists and komunyaki! Difference, communists shouted ahead communists, they destroyed Russia, then the USSR, now they want the collapse of the Russian Federation.
    2. 16
      16
      +1
      19 September 2012 21: 20
      the majority fought for the Reds !!!! as I think -------- the majority still fights for justice !!!!!
      1. Konrad
        -1
        19 September 2012 22: 14
        Quote: 16 obrspn
        most still fight for (red) justice

        And what was the "justice" of the Reds, to take away and divide everything? So this is thieves' justice. The Cossacks generally lived well, there were, of course, drunks and idlers - these were the Reds who immediately crossed over to take and divide.
        1. 16
          16
          0
          20 September 2012 00: 13
          justice was ------------- for the best !!!!!!!! and the fact that the majority in Russia did not live at that time ... not in the Red Army !!!!! !!!!!!it is a fact!!!!!!!!!
          1. mongoose
            -1
            21 September 2012 12: 13
            the lies of the Reds, just an excuse for the terrible poverty of fellow citizens
          2. Hon
            0
            21 September 2012 15: 08
            It is not true that the bulk of the people at that time lived very well, we fed the whole world with agricultural products, the peasants received the income from their labor honestly, there were serious problems, but the Stolypin reforms could solve them, but not fate ...
      2. Zmitcer
        0
        19 September 2012 23: 29
        Quote: 16 obrspn
        - most still fighting for justice
        fought for empty promises, for lies. Tens of millions of people’s lives were not worth the unity, the party elite who made of all, a gray, faceless mass of slaves.
        1. 16
          16
          +1
          20 September 2012 00: 16
          for this gray and faceless mass was --------- free ----- education, medical
          1. Zmitcer
            +1
            20 September 2012 01: 22
            Quote: 16 obrspn
            mass was --------- free ----- education, medical

            I can not help but ask. are you normal I'm writing about tens of millions of people killed! and you are nonsense to me, about education and medicine. As an option: your whole family at a loss, all! and you don’t have free medicine yet .. do you think ... a normal offer? as I understand from your previous answer, just fabulous. come on-go get treated, gray, faceless biomass.
            1. 16
              16
              0
              21 September 2012 21: 59
              civil war is always blood and tears !!!!!! but if the emperor would be like an emperor, he would take and crush everything in the bud -------- just like Gorbachev at one time !!!!! ! and I'm quite normal !!!!! and tens of millions ----- in WWII or what?
        2. +1
          22 September 2012 13: 03
          fought for empty promises, for lies


          And when was it different? I do not mean a war of liberation. Yes, by and large, and liberation ... Recall the Time of Troubles. What then did the people win by expelling the Poles, who were invited by those in power? And about the revolution and say nothing. Only one thing worries. Both England and France, having survived the nightmare of their revolutions, still do not wash the bones of revolutionary leaders, and we have some kind of itch. You say that memories are still fresh? Nothing like this. We still remember the Time of Troubles, and for us, for all, the Romanov family for some reason is dear to mom and dad. 400 years have passed. I think we will discuss 1917 for centuries. As if no other business
      3. mongoose
        -1
        21 September 2012 12: 13
        Yeah, and then he takes a Kylo to the White Sea Channel laughing
    3. 0
      19 September 2012 21: 33
      Eck you ... He didn’t "digest", but beat him down, he could not rethink the ideas of a solidary society of people, not animals - and THEN he wasted a superpower built to achieve the highest goal - communism.
  18. MI-AS-72
    +3
    19 September 2012 21: 38
    The author has a big minus for a hundred, it is engaged, at least, I believe that if you took up writing without prejudice, then remind that there were 2 "decossackization" in the history of Russia:
    1.Petrovsk-Catherine’s (E. I) rhetoric is now generally hushed up, but by its destructive results it is quite comparable to Trotsky’s.
    2. And in 19 g, the bronchte was the ideological and conductor of the idea of ​​raskazhachivaniya, the main goal was the destruction of the Russian spirit, it was a crime, especially the majority of the Cossacks sided with the Reds. In 1921, decisions of the Bolsheviks on the rehabilitation of the Cossacks were adopted.
    3. About the "wealth" of the Cossacks at the beginning of the 1st MV
    The Don Cossacks 33,3% of the Cossacks were poor, 45% were middle peasants, and 21,7% were prosperous. The Kuban Cossacks, the poor Cossack farms accounted for 35,5%, the average 43,5%, the prosperous - 21%.
    There is something else that can be polymerized with the author, but I don’t see the point, time has already put everything in its place. And in a civil war, it’s generally difficult to find the righteous.
    "And I stand alone between them
    In roaring flames and smoke
    And with all their strength
    I pray for those and for others "(c)
  19. 0
    20 September 2012 00: 10
    It’s hard for me to add anything, because there were no Cossacks in my family, but without loud phrases I can safely say that the tragedy of the Cossacks of Russia goes through my heart with pain ... recourse
  20. 0
    20 September 2012 02: 03
    From an interview with political analyst Dmitry Vydrin on December 30, 2005:
    “This was the first visit of President Kuchma to Georgia. The first, I remember, was Eduard Amvrosievich Shevardnadze. And his toast was to the brave guys from UNA-UNSO.
    Our delegation looked at each other strangely, but, respecting the owner, drank to it. Then there were various toasts on duty: to peace, prosperity, friendship. The turn has not yet reached the presidential press secretary. I was just sitting between him and Nani Bregvadze, who had previously sang Russian romances for us and had already sat down at the table. Everyone was already a little drunk, so the press secretary's toast was rather fluffy. He said: "Let's drink to the Russians!" and paused.
    Everyone, naturally, looked at each other in bewilderment, and the press secretary smiled slyly and continued: "Since we - Georgians and Ukrainians - are lucky that there are Russians in the world. We learned from the Russians to take everything. We sleep with their most beautiful women, we took they have the best romances - Nani just showed that these are not theirs, but our romances - we take oil and gas from them without payment ... Therefore, let's drink to these suckers who feed us, give us drink and provide. "
  21. Konrad
    0
    20 September 2012 21: 21
    At the opening of the exhibition "Spiritual abuse" in Moscow, a brawl took place
    This happened on the territory of the Moscow Center for Contemporary Art "Winery". As the correspondent of the Russian News Service reports from the scene, about 20 Don Cossacks gathered at the entrance to the Gelman Gallery, where an exhibition called "Spiritual Warfare" was to open.

    “Before the exhibition, only police and Orthodox activists. A few have come here to see. Now here is just a protest. Orthodox activists and Cossacks blocked the entrance to the gallery, they stood in a chain. Well done Cossacks !!!
    1. Hon
      0
      21 September 2012 09: 34
      Quote: Konrad
      Before the exhibition, only police and Orthodox activists.


      But after the Cossacks Glman made an advertisement at the exhibition, there will be a full house. Fools are mumbled, they themselves helped to promote the exhibition.
      1. Konrad
        0
        22 September 2012 16: 36
        Quote: Hon
        But after the Cossacks Glman made an advertisement at the exhibition, there will be a full house

        You yourself, you don’t need to dress up.
        1. Hon
          +1
          23 September 2012 19: 52
          Go zenki zaley and Ory songs, that’s the fate of today's Cossacks!
  22. +1
    21 September 2012 00: 09
    Nonsense ... And there is nothing more to say about the article ...

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