Source: The timing of the return of the multipurpose nuclear submarine "Samara" of project 971 to the Pacific Fleet has not been determined

The timing of the return to the combat strength of the Pacific fleet multipurpose nuclear submarine "Samara" project 971 ("Shchuka-B") after repair has not yet been finally determined. This was stated by a source in the Russian defense industry.

The Ministry of Defense has not set a timeline for the return to service of the multipurpose nuclear submarine Samara, which is undergoing repairs and modernization at the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center. The thing is that the volume of work carried out and work turned out to be much larger than planned, therefore, an additional agreement for work is currently expected to be concluded.

(...) a lot of equipment was removed from the Samara nuclear submarine. An additional agreement on its replacement is now expected to be concluded. Only then will it be possible to talk about the timing of the completion of the work

приводит TASS source words.

Earlier this year, a source in the defense industry also said that the Project 971 (Schuka-B) multipurpose nuclear submarine Samara would return to the Pacific Fleet in 2023. Details about the repairs being carried out were not reported, there were no official statements from the Ministry of Defense regarding the repair of the "Samara", the military traditionally report everything after the fact. It is precisely known about the rearmament of nuclear submarines with new missiles, in principle, this applies to all modernized multipurpose submarines.

Recall that initially the Samara nuclear submarine was supposed to undergo repairs in Vilyuchinsk, but in 2014 it was decided to deliver the submarine to Severodvinsk. Together with a similar nuclear submarine "Bratsk", "Samara" was delivered to "Zvezdochka", where it was awaiting the start of repairs. By mid-2020, work on the submarine was already underway, the submarine was undergoing the first stage of modernization.

The Project 295 (Schuka-B) multipurpose nuclear submarine K-971 "Samara" was laid down on November 7, 1993 at the Amur shipyard in Komsomolsk-on-Amur and launched on August 5, 1994. It was accepted into the Navy on July 17, 1995 under the name "Dragon". The new name "Samara" was given on August 30, 1999.

Comments

[2 Level Advisor]

Enchanting news .. the repairs have just begun, and already about the timing of the return to service of the boat, which has been at the plant for 7 years ...

[knn54]

The chronology is not fun:
In August 2014, the boat was sent for repair and modernization to Severodvinsk.
As of the end of 2019, it remains at the plant awaiting modernization.

[Mountain shooter]

The main thing is that there is NEW equipment for replacement? To upgrade the combat potential of a good boat.

[avia12005]

Isn't it time to declare all-Russian holidays and days off the dates when military equipment will be commissioned on the announced date?

[tralflot1832]

An amazing construction period of 10 months. And the years are not at all sweet, the beginning of the destruction of shipbuilding.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tralflot1832

construction period 10 months

And the renovation is already 7 years old! And no end in sight ...

[ved_med12]

Also drew attention!

[Orkraider]

Fleet repair plants are our weak point.
To tears((

[Subtext]

This does not apply to the asterisk. The weak point is the timely and complete transfer of SRH finances.

the volume of work carried out and work turned out to be much more than planned

- This is clear. Historically, the quality of the ships built in Komsomolsk-on-Amur wishes a lot better: o (

[Ross xnumx]

We live in a country in which neither the sources of information, nor the dates are determined a priori. So it is more familiar and handy. There is no one responsible for execution, there is no one responsible for promises. Soon it will be twenty-two years old, as we cannot determine the actual size of the minimum wage, however, as well as justify the maximum-necessary payment of officials (taking into account income from shares and other dividends ... why not?) men up to 65 and ALL women up to 63 or just hard workers (middle class)? Is it not possible to limit the spread of senile insanity in governing the country to sixty-five years? What can one do who cannot do anything useful? Sorry, but the ability to transfer money from one pocket to another can be an ordinary cook.
But in principle, there is nothing surprising. How Alla Borisovna sang there:

[huntsman650]

The recently returned BOD "Kulakov" is again being assembled on the BS, because there are no running ships, there are very, very few of them. Touches the article about the rusty and leaky US destroyer))), we simply do not have them (and the donkey does not count).

[Tests]

ROSS 42 (Yuri Vasilyevich), dear, where did you get the confidence that: "We live in a country in which neither sources of information, nor terms are determined a priori. So it is more familiar and more convenient. There are no people responsible for execution, there are no people responsible for promises . " ? Not long ago, on the site, in the comments, I drew the attention of all VO readers that in the spring of this year 2021 the super-important state office of the FAS in the court of appeal confirmed that for the failure to repair the ships of the Russian Navy, the Zvezdochka CS as a result of a heavy and backup work FAS is included in the register of unscrupulous suppliers reasonably, legally and fairly. The law is strong, but it's law! It is not for nothing that the Federal Antimonopoly Service in the Russian Federation spreads black caviar on bread in the morning! For failure to meet the deadline for repairs, "Zvezdochka" has already returned millions of rubles to the budget of the RF Ministry of Defense. The women shouted: "Hurray!" and they threw something into the air ...
And a small fluffy Vulpes lagopus came to the RF Ministry of Defense. How can the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Zvezdochka Center conclude an additional agreement for the work? For the conclusion of such an agreement with an unscrupulous supplier, the prosecutor's office, as they used to say "Janissary" performed by Andrei Krasko in the film "72 meters", where will the RF Ministry of Defense turn out with fur? That means we need to wait at least until the spring of 2022 for the arbitration court to remove the label “unscrupulous supplier” from Zvezdochka ...
There are nuances in the history of boats from the Pacific Fleet, as in every story. When two orders rolled to the Zvezdochka on the Transhelf along the NSR in 2014, the Caliber flew only from a TA of 533 mm. "Zvezdochka" on the diesel-electric submarine pr. 877 of India, "Caliber" taught to fly from a TA. And in 2015, Rostov-on-Don, pr. 636.3, for the first time presented four missiles to the caliphate builders, in 4 it was supported by Krasnodar, Veliky Novgorod and Kolpino. The military said, they say, not bad, but we want to fly farther and bang be stronger. What innovators from Novator said in 2017: "So we are working, but for the bang to be wider and deeper, we will probably make the rocket a little thicker." And also, if you remember, it was in 2018 that the President of the Russian Federation showed cartoons, including about hypersonic weapons, in 2018 he told how the Zircon would fly. Here is "Zircon" with a nuclear submarine in 2019 and has already learned to fly in the White Sea ... We will watch ... After all, our beloved FAS somehow did not say a word when Zvezdochka became a monopolist in the repair of nuclear submarines. In St. Petersburg, nuclear submarines are not being built or repaired today, in Nizhny Novgorod they are not being built or repaired, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur they are not being built and I don’t know if they are repaired ...

[Konstantin Borzoi]

argue? she will never return to the fleet!

[eehnie]

Russia inherited huge fleets of military equipment from the Soviet Union. The process of reducing the combat and auxiliary fleets began in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. If Russia could provide proper maintenance for the entire legacy fleet, there would be no need for fleet downsizing. The fleet would be economically affordable, not oversized.

One of the main problems arising from the presence of oversized vehicle fleets is the inability to ensure proper maintenance of all departments. The main result of this is an increase in the service queue, which leads to service delays. Over time, the position of some units reaches a point of deterioration that can only be resolved through scrapping, which forces the fleet to be reduced.

Russia is approaching the end of the process of reducing the combat fleets inherited from the Soviet Union. The process of reducing the auxiliary fleet will continue throughout this decade. As a consequence, there are still some budget problems, and this is just one example of this. There is no need to complain here if we are able to correctly understand the situation ..

This submarine remained in line for years until it began receiving a budget to start maintenance and modernization operations. The good side of the new is that the submarine is on the right track to escape. Most of the "experts" who are now complaining about the lengthy repair times considered this submarine to be scrapped for several years.

Why will the renovation take several years? The reason for this is that Russia is trying to save as many warships and submarines as possible from scrapping, and there are more and more such cases that require at least the start of maintenance and modernization work. As a consequence, the available budget is split to save all possible ships and submarines from scrapping, which means longer repair times. There is nothing rare or wrong with this kind of news.

Russia is approaching the point where combat fleets are becoming economically available. At this point, maintenance queues disappear unless maintenance is mixed with upgrades. The list of decommissioned vessels awaiting scrapping also disappears (after the maximum number of decommissioned vessels has been restored). The list of ships whose construction has been frozen disappears (after the construction of the maximum number will be resumed). In a few years, such situations will disappear in the aforementioned combat fleets.

In the case of subsidiary fleets, which will continue to decline, it is likely that only functional maintenance of surplus units will be observed, it is also likely that there will be a concentration of workloads on surplus units and intensive disposal of depleted units.

But some "experts" will still continue to live in the illusion of an unlimited budget, where government services such as health care or education do not matter, in order to build more and more ships and submarines, but small in size so as not to disrupt domination of the West.

(Automatically translated from English. Below is the original commentary in English)

Russia inherited oversized fleets of military material from the Soviet Union. A process of reduction of the combat and auxiliary fleets started in Russia after the end of the Soviet Uniton. If Russia would have been able to give proper maintenance to the entire inherited fleets, then it would have not been a need of reduction of the fleets. The fleets would have been economically affordable, not oversized.

One of the main problems created by to have oversized fleets, is to be not able to give proper maintenance to all the units. The main effect of it is to increase the maintenance queue, and it cause delays in maintenance. With the time, the situation of some units reach a point of deterioration that only can be solved by disposal, forcing a reduction of the fleets.

Russia is reaching the end of the process of reduction of the combat fleets inherited from the Soviet Union. The process of reduction of the auxiliary fleets will continue ongoing this entire decade. As consequence there are still some budget tensions, and this is only one example of it. There is not need to complain about, if we are able to understand correctly the situation ..

This submarine remained years on queue until to begin to receive budget to begin the maintenance and modernization operations. The good side of the new, is that the submarine is in the right way to be saved. Most of the "experts" that now complain about the long timeline for repairs, counted this submarine like awaiting disposal for several years.

Why the repairs will take some years? The reason for it is that Russia is trying to save from disposal as many combat ships and submarines as possible, and there are still more cases like this that require at least the begin of the work on maintenance and modernization. As a consequence the available budget is being divided in order to save all the possible ships and submarines from disposal, and it means longer timeline for the repair works. There is nothing rare or wrong in news like this.

Russia is reaching the point where the combat fleets begin to be economically affordable. In this point the queues for maintenance disappear if maintenance is not mixed with modernizations. The list of decommisioned ships awaiting disposal also disappears (after the recovery of the maximum number of ships decommissioned). The list of ships which construction was frozen disappears (after to resume the construction of the maximum number of them). In a few years situations like these will disappear in the referred to the combat fleets.

In the case of the auxiliary fleets, which reduction will continue, it is likely to see only functional maintenance for the units of surplus, also it is likely to see a concentration of workloads on the surplus units and intense disposal of the exhausted units.

But some "experts" still will continue living in a illusion of unlimited budget, where public services like health care or education do not matter, in order to built more and more ships and submarines, but of small size, to disturb not the Western dominance ...

[faiver]

as usual - Well, I couldn't, I couldn't ...