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New Swedish Carl Gustaf M4 grenade launchers will increase the anti-tank capabilities of the Estonian self-defense forces

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Estonia is armed with the latest Swedish grenade launchers. According to the press service of the Ministry of National Defense of the republic, the first batch of Carl Gustaf M4 grenade launchers was supplied by Saab.


The Estonian Self-Defense Forces received a batch of 4 Carl Gustaf M300 grenade launchers. It is noted that this is the first batch, there is still no information on the delivery time of subsequent information. It is emphasized that the new grenade launchers will significantly increase the anti-tank capabilities of the Estonian self-defense forces.

The fact that Estonia ordered the delivery of the latest generation of Swedish grenade launchers became known in the spring of this year, when Saab published a corresponding message. Quantity ordered weapons, as well as ammunition is not reported, however, the amount of the agreement is known - $ 12 million. Delivery time is 2021-2022.

The order was placed under a previously signed agreement between Estonia and Latvia with the Swedish Defense Materials Administration (Försvarets materielverk, or FMV), which allows Estonians to order grenade launchers and ammunition for 10 years.

The new Carl Gustaf M4 grenade launchers will be used in parallel with the earlier version of the Carl Gustaf M2 and M3 grenade launchers already in service with the Estonian self-defense forces.

By the way, we note that Estonia, unlike the other two Baltic republics, has recently been actively arming itself, purchasing new and modernizing old weapons. In the last six months alone, a contract was signed for the modernization of K9 Thunder self-propelled artillery systems purchased from South Korea, auxiliary armored vehicles based on the CV90 BMP were ordered, naval mines, Israeli Blue Spear anti-ship missiles (5G SSM) and Spear Mk120 2-mm mortar systems were purchased. At the end of August, Tallinn asked the European Union for the supply of a medium-range air defense system for "protection from Russia."
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  1. vervolk
    vervolk 10 December 2021 13: 49
    -1
    I hope the Swedes have taken into account that the explosion delay should be set at least four hours? otherwise there may be consequences ...
    1. prior
      prior 10 December 2021 13: 56
      -3
      Pokka, the Estonian self-defense forces will figure out what to do with the grenade launcher, the war will end ... request
  2. svp67
    svp67 10 December 2021 13: 54
    +8
    The Estonian Self-Defense Forces received a batch of 4 Carl Gustaf M300 grenade launchers.
    And the machine is powerful and the quantity is normal ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 10 December 2021 14: 01
      -5
      300 pieces for the whole of Estonia?
      It will not be enough. smile
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 December 2021 14: 14
        -2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        It will not be enough

        Yes, I looked at the globe ... how much of that Estonia ... tongue
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 10 December 2021 16: 00
          -2
          So it is not for Estonia, but for us they are preparing. It really won't be enough.
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            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 11 December 2021 08: 17
              -2
              winked They fight not by number, but by skill. Your NatA bunch of American lackeys who fear their own shadow. bully
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 December 2021 13: 28
            +1
            Probably, during the storming of Grozny, ours said the same thing and received hundreds of units of damaged and destroyed equipment - grenade launchers.
      2. Yuri D
        Yuri D 10 December 2021 17: 47
        0
        If you put more, then the "estas" of them will stupidly build a fence ...;)
    2. Mikhail Zhikharev
      Mikhail Zhikharev 10 December 2021 19: 49
      -1
      That just 2 pieces for each soldier of the Estonian army ??
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 December 2021 13: 54
    -2
    New regional player hatched ???
    1. svp67
      svp67 10 December 2021 14: 15
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      Loot then for the purchase of weapons from where ???

      The EU gives ...
      1. ÖselViking
        ÖselViking 11 December 2021 04: 49
        +1
        Learn to read in English - learn
        So for the elimination of illiteracy, the budget of the city of Tallinn (yes, yes with two H) is like that of St. Petersburg, although the population in St. Petersburg is 10 times larger
        And the military budget for Belarus
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 11 December 2021 08: 26
          -1
          Learn to write in Russian and then you will distribute advice. laughing "Liquidation", you know. If someone pays many times more for the same type of services and goods, what's the point of flaunting a budget? lol
    2. Orsis338
      Orsis338 10 December 2021 14: 23
      +6
      Their economy is quite self-sufficient
  4. sergo1914
    sergo1914 10 December 2021 13: 56
    -1
    "They are wonderful, peasant children"
    PS For the anniversary of Nekrasov.
    PSS Applies to both suppliers and recipients.
  5. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 10 December 2021 13: 56
    -3
    Any default grenade launcher will increase the effectiveness of anti-tank defenses. And the fig was to change the good old and cheap and effective RPG-7 for an expensive Swedish one. Why is he better than seven?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 December 2021 14: 16
      +4
      The RPG 7 has long been outdated both in terms of the armor penetration of the firing range and the nomenclature of ammunition for the M4, even a guided missile was made for this grenade launcher and the computer sight was developed and the reloading of the grenade launcher was simplified in comparison with the RPG 7.
    2. vitinka
      vitinka 10 December 2021 15: 15
      -2
      Well, at least the fact that you can shoot from a closed room. This is very important in urban battles.
      1. D16
        D16 10 December 2021 15: 34
        -2
        can be shot from a closed room

        Let them shoot to health lol ... And the more closed the room, the more efficiently the grenade launchers will self-utilize. After all, this is essentially a rifled recoilless drive.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 December 2021 17: 30
        +3
        The M4 does not have such functionality - the American AT8 has such functionality for working in urban environments.
  6. Alexander X
    Alexander X 10 December 2021 13: 59
    -3
    Well, I don’t understand, the leadership of these pygmy (if not Lilliputian) nedossudarstvos hope, if there is an attack on them, to restrain the power of Russia with 300 pukals? Or is it someone in their defense department ordered a rollback. Or is it all ostentatious jerking for the desire to serve the striped owner ...
    1. vadim dok
      vadim dok 10 December 2021 17: 37
      +3
      Remember! One of the "pygmy (if not Lilliputian) non-states" piled well on the giant USSR! But behind Finland there was NO ONE, And behind Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia stands NATO.
      1. Peter is not the first
        Peter is not the first 10 December 2021 21: 16
        -1
        But behind Finland there was NO ONE

        For the first time I hear that Finland was alone against the USSR. Take a look at Wikipedia at least:
        Great Britain, Hungary, Germany, Denmark, Italy, Norway, Poland, USA, France, Sweden and other countries rendered assistance to Finland on various scales. Finland received 350 aircraft, 500 guns, more than 6 machine guns, about 100 rifles and other weapons, as well as 650 hand grenades, 2,5 million shells and 160 million rounds of ammunition. About 26 thousand volunteers arrived from 11,5 countries
        1. Orsis338
          Orsis338 10 December 2021 23: 50
          -2
          It is not weapons that are fighting, but people. The same Czech Republic at 38 was much more armed than Finland, had a strong line of defense, and not Finnish fortifications made of shit and sticks. However, where did anyone end up
          1. Peter is not the first
            Peter is not the first 11 December 2021 09: 25
            +1
            not Finnish fortifications made of shit and sticks.

            Yes, precisely, people fight, and precisely, with weapons. In 38 Czechoslovakia, there were many weapons and defensive lines, but there was no desire of the authorities to defend their country. But the discussion was about Finland in 39-40 years, and everything came together there, and the desire of people to stand for their country, and the desire of the authorities to fight, and the availability of weapons, and the built line of defense, obviously not made of "shit and sticks." And behind Finland, from which the discussion began, the world countries really stood up, and both people and weapons went there. And if we had been late in overcoming the Mannerheim Line, then we would have faced not only the Finnish army, the Finnish militia, and the volunteers of the "European Union", but also the regular troops of Great Britain and France.
            And about the "shit and sticks" tell those who died in ambushes, moving towards these fortifications, and those who died buried in these fortifications.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 10 December 2021 13: 59
    0
    New Swedish Carl Gustaf M4 grenade launchers will increase the anti-tank capabilities of the Estonian self-defense forces
    ... Each "rubbish" in a couple ... that's really really, for what they are preparing ...
    1. vadim dok
      vadim dok 10 December 2021 17: 40
      +2
      Generally, grenade launchers are DEFENSIVE anti-tank weapons! And Estonia is preparing for defense, to DEFEND your country! If you want peace, get ready for war!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 December 2021 19: 53
        -2
        They, a member of a large defensive alliance ... what are they afraid of? Who can attack them?
      2. sergo1914
        sergo1914 10 December 2021 23: 01
        -1
        Quote: vadim dok
        Generally, grenade launchers are DEFENSIVE anti-tank weapons! And Estonia is preparing for defense, to DEFEND your country! If you want peace, get ready for war!


        Um ... well, here you can fight back ... until the arrival of Russian tanks. No, I don't suspect the Swedes of anything. But give to the deer…. Not even a grenade launcher. Ball from the bearing. What will happen?
  8. Vladimir 290
    Vladimir 290 10 December 2021 14: 02
    -4
    In general, it is not clear why such countries need an army, with whom and how they are going to fight at all. Well, if only to cut money and of course as instructors for the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    1. alexniko77
      alexniko77 10 December 2021 14: 12
      -5
      and to cut the money and pose with brand new grenade launchers at gay parades ...
      1. Vladimir 290
        Vladimir 290 10 December 2021 15: 07
        0
        Thanks for the clarification, I did not take into account the option with European values
    2. vitinka
      vitinka 10 December 2021 15: 18
      0
      I’m from Latvia, look, there’s all the shit and they think about how Russia will attack. Baltic "Tigers" ... laughing
      1. Vladimir 290
        Vladimir 290 10 December 2021 15: 20
        -1
        Are you kidding or is this really true?
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 December 2021 14: 03
    +5
    Rifled grenade launcher. Quite powerful and accurate machine. Very dangerous and relatively long-range. And Estonia has a lot of them (taking into account the earlier models). In the Estonian forests for semi-partisan actions - just right. Therefore, there is no need to advance on the territory of Estonia. It is necessary to cut off the entire Baltic region at once, and let them cook "under the lid". Will ripen ...
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 10 December 2021 17: 15
      0
      In the Estonian forests for semi-partisan actions - just right.

      "Merlin" would suit them better, although it is also expensive ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 December 2021 17: 31
        0
        They will buy Spikes soon.
        1. ÖselViking
          ÖselViking 11 December 2021 04: 56
          0
          Spike purchased long ago
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 December 2021 13: 32
            +2
            These are the Spikes
            - when meeting with them, our equipment will obviously not be good, since we have no reactive armor on light armored vehicles, and from above, there will be no protection at all, the defeat will be 100%.
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 December 2021 14: 08
    -4
    And what will the Chukhontsi tell them to say? fellow While they are trying to figure out what, where and why, the tanks will already be in Lithuania. lol lol
  11. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 December 2021 14: 12
    +5
    Estonian university teachers and students took part in protests in Tallinn and Tartu. They organized rallies to draw the attention of members of the Riigikogu to the problem of underfunding in higher education. The shortage reaches approximately 100 million euros per year.
    And on the same evening, an increase in the military budget of 104 million euros was adopted.
  12. sen
    sen 10 December 2021 14: 30
    +2
    New Swedish Carl Gustaf M4 grenade launchers will increase the anti-tank capabilities of the Estonian self-defense forces

    Karl Gustav has an 84 mm caliber grenade, and the RPG-7 has an over-caliber grenade, respectively, the armor penetration is higher
    Carl Gustav has an 84 mm HEAT 751 grenade: warhead - tandem cumulative, armor penetration - DZ + 500
    RPG-7 has a 105 mm PG-7VL "Luch" / 7P16 warhead grenade - tandem cumulative, armor penetration - DZ + more than 600
    https://modernfirearms.net/ru/granatomety/rossija-granatomety/rpg-7/
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 10 December 2021 15: 55
      +10
      Start with the cast range, you will probably be surprised, then count the ammo options. And lastly, read about guided munitions for Gustov. Stop throwing budenovkas.
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 10 December 2021 16: 36
        -3
        Quote: zadorin1974
        Start with the cast range.

        Don't forget to calculate the prices of both grenade launchers and ammunition. Some throw budennovka, others with bundles of money.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 December 2021 17: 36
          +4
          In the end, the first will be smeared and their calculations will be destroyed, and the second with M4 with such an aim at a distance of 700 meters and for 1000 will hit day and night and leave unscathed from the battle
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 10 December 2021 21: 11
          +3
          Better one accurate shot with a range of up to two kilometers than 20 not accurate up to 600. Gustav with his guided missile turned into an ATGM (at that for ridiculous money). It has 20 different types of BP, while it is compact (the same Vampire look)
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 December 2021 13: 35
            0
            We need to create the same analogue to replace the old RPG 7 with this in a modern war, there is nothing to do but stupidly commit suicide.
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 12 December 2021 13: 39
            -1
            ATGM Metis, have you heard of this?
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 12 December 2021 17: 49
              -1
              And what does the Metis have to do with it? Do you want to compare him with Gustav? Let's. Installation cost, rocket cost, operator training time, overall dimensions and weight. This is the same as comparing TOP 2 and C 300
              1. Barberry25
                Barberry25 12 December 2021 19: 09
                -1
                there is a certain division of weapons - Shturm works up to 8 km. from 4 km the Competition is already working, from 2 km the Metis is working, but when it comes close, then the RPG-7 is already working there ... you can also put a smart sight on it and the range will be +200 meters will be
                1. zadorin1974
                  zadorin1974 12 December 2021 19: 25
                  -1
                  There is the armament of the squad, the platoon of the company, and so on. There is no need to think up in kilometers. But the Metis M is a company armament. At the same time, the operator drags 22 kg (excluding the thermal imager), the second number two tubes -30 kg. Fucking joy.
                  1. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 12 December 2021 20: 55
                    0
                    and you can also come up with smart bullets so that they themselves fall into the enemy ... the question is in the price of such products for Gustav and their effectiveness ... still 84 mm for an ATGM is very small. and the shot itself will obviously not be cheap ... it's easier to take the old Metis launcher and screw the engine from the new one to the old rocket - there will be a range of 2 km, and the mass is less
                    1. zadorin1974
                      zadorin1974 12 December 2021 22: 19
                      -1
                      You are initially not making the comparison correctly. Gustav M4 is an RPG
                      - classmate RPG 7 but with more advanced abilities. This is not an ATGM, it is a hand grenade launcher weighing 6,7 kilograms, firing simple grenades up to 1200 meters. Why compare warm to soft? The Swedes just took a simplified path and they succeeded (more than 20 countries are already being purchased. The BP nomenclature is just pumped up - one grenade with remote detonation is worth it. We only have more or less competitive RPG-32. But again it loses in range (700 m ) and in the resource (200 shots against 1000)
                      1. Barberry25
                        Barberry25 13 December 2021 10: 29
                        -1
                        So maybe the Swedes took the path of complication? They buy 20 countries because they have nothing adequate except for Carl Gustav .. Here is a simple option, where exactly should the newly-minted ATGM Gustav go? range up to 2 km? then he loses to Metis, Fagot, and even more so to the Competition ... And yet the RPG calculation has a very limited ammunition load, therefore, multiplying the essence, we will not get the result, but only complicate the task, it resembles the history of the creation of the G-36 rifle, on which they put a double sight-optics and a collimator, And in the end everyone takes it without a sight, because it is redundant ... armament of about 7 countries, not to mention all sorts of groups .. The maximum that is really worth doing with him is to put on the current versions a smart sight + expelling charge for working from premises.
  13. Nexcom
    Nexcom 10 December 2021 16: 35
    -3
    And for Estonians, when a grenade is fired from a grenade launcher, will not fly through the whole of Estonia ?? lol
    Maybe they shouldn't have ordered such a powerful weapon?