Published data on the number of combat aircraft and helicopters in service with Ukraine

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The Ukrainian Air Force is armed with up to a hundred combat aircraft and almost the same number of combat helicopters. Such data are presented in the new World Air Forces 2022 guide, published by the information portal FlightGlobal.

The creators of the directory have counted the number of combat aviationavailable in the presence of the Air Force of Ukraine. It is noted that trainer aircraft, as well as helicopters, were not taken into account. The only question that remains unclear is which aircraft were taken into account in the calculation - really capable of performing tasks or all included in the composition, regardless of their condition.



So, according to the new directory, the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is armed with 98 combat aircraft. These include: 43 light MiG-29 fighters, 26 heavy Su-27 fighters, 12 front-line Su-24 bombers and 17 Su-25 attack aircraft. All aircraft are shown without modifications.

The number of helicopters, combat, of course, roughly corresponds to the number of aircraft and is 97 units. Here, all those in service are counted, both in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and in service with the Naval Forces of Ukraine. The Armed Forces of Ukraine include 88 helicopters, of which 54 are military transport helicopters of the Mi-8 brand of all modifications and 34 are attack MI-24 helicopters. The Ukrainian Navy has 9 helicopters, including 4 Ka-27 helicopters, 1 Ka-226 helicopter and 4 Mi-14 helicopters. The state of the helicopters and how many of them are capable of performing combat missions is also not indicated.

As has been repeatedly reported, the Ukrainian Air Force is equipped with combat aircraft produced in the Soviet Union. Despite attempts at modernization carried out on their own, the fighters do not meet modern requirements and are considered outdated. It is emphasized that Kiev does not have funds for new aircraft; since the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine has not bought a single new combat aircraft. Currently, Kiev has adopted an ambitious program, under which it intends to replace the entire fleet of outdated aircraft with modern Western-style fighters. In this capacity, Ukraine would like to see American F-16s or Swedish JAS 39 Gripen.
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  1. +24
    10 December 2021 09: 28
    in Ukraine would like

    As the saying goes, the fool gets richer with a dummy.
    1. -36
      10 December 2021 09: 49
      They have 5 +% of GDP going to the army according to the law.
      Well, Western partners are helping, just the day before yesterday they gave 1 billion pounds.
      "Good news from London: UK will highlight an additional £ 1 billion to support Ukraine... These are new investments, trade, security. Based on the results of my negotiations with Boris Johnson last year, the volume total British support to rise to £ 3,5bn", - wrote Zelensky.
      1. +25
        10 December 2021 10: 13
        Quote: donavi49
        They have 5 +% of GDP going to the army according to the law.
        Well, Western partners are helping, just the day before yesterday they gave 1 billion pounds.
        "Good news from London: UK will highlight an additional £ 1 billion to support Ukraine... These are new investments, trade, security. Based on the results of my negotiations with Boris Johnson last year, the volume total British support to rise to £ 3,5bn", - wrote Zelensky.

        Wide trousers have wide pockets lol
      2. +11
        10 December 2021 10: 28
        Well, they will plunder this "help" too, or rather, they will plunder what will remain after the Naglo-Saxons themselves plunder. Tea is not the first time. Hoh-lamas, no matter how much you give, everything will be small, and not a horse's forage.
      3. +16
        10 December 2021 10: 30
        Shariy explained to whom this money was allocated, non-brothers do not have such amounts.
      4. +21
        10 December 2021 11: 47
        this is credit money for the purchase of English goods, do not read the yellow newspapers
        1. -10
          10 December 2021 12: 21
          Well, if we talk about aviation, then the British are building it. Here is a fresh board for Qatar, for example, flew.


          If we continue, we may well give the next tranche for new or used Eurofighters.
          1. +12
            10 December 2021 12: 53
            but they may not give it, you can still tell fortunes on the coffee grounds, while they were given money, so that they would buy washing machines in England
      5. +9
        10 December 2021 16: 04
        Quote: donavi49
        The UK will provide an additional £ 1 billion to support Ukraine. These are new investments, trade, security.

        ========
        Here are just "ukro-politicians" completely "lip roll out" ..... This billion will turn into investments and soft loans exclusively british companies doing business (mainly trade) with Ukraine - such a "safety cushion" for British business dealing with extremely unpredictable partners coming out!
        So it's time for them to buy a "sponge rolling machine"!
        PS In fact, this "billion" is a "gift from the Danaans"! It is ultimately aimed at further destruction of the Ukrainian economy and including industry .... And these clowns are also very happy! Here - fuckers!
      6. +2
        10 December 2021 16: 29
        At one time, the greats persistently offered the Chinese to buy their "necessary" goods. Times pass, change, but not great habits.
      7. +6
        10 December 2021 20: 05
        Before writing nonsense about the allocation of money to Ukraine, it would be nice to read that money is allocated for British businessmen who want to ship something to Ukraine.
        That is, Ukraine will not get a spear.
      8. 0
        11 December 2021 07: 50
        Quote: donavi49
        "Good news from London: UK will highlight an additional £ 1 billion to support Ukraine.

        Those. not targeted help ....
        Russia and Belarus have agreed on the supply of Russian weapons worth over a billion dollars. This was told by the Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko, RIA Novosti reports.

        More details: https://www.tatar-inform.ru/news/lukasenko-moskva-soglasovala-postavki-minsku-vooruzeniya-na-milliard-dollarov-5835832?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
      9. mvg
        0
        11 December 2021 11: 12
        In my memory, you were so harshly minus for the first time) In the course of at least half of the VO contingent, some Ukrainian did something unpleasant .. well, or the media pit the two countries
      10. +3
        11 December 2021 12: 52
        All billions of pounds are recorded in the national debt and are calculated as transferred junk for various purposes .... very pragmatic gentlemen! not fools at all .. They will take it away with wood, earth, minerals ...
    2. +5
      11 December 2021 10: 51
      Where does the reference book get its information from? Or is it data from the satellite? So, a serviceable board cannot be visually distinguished from a faulty one - it looks the same. The whole question is in the resource and technical serviceability. But the reference book has nowhere to take this data, I doubt that the Air Force of the whole world is sharing this information. Sometimes even the "top" is not too aware of the true state of affairs. If the plane has not been flying for several months, then consider that this unfavorable airplane - failures will fall down one after another when trying to revive it. Most likely, they do not do any measures to maintain the aircraft in flight condition: gas engines, conservation, inspections in the heat-and-power unit, regulations, etc. Let me remind you that in Chebenki, serviceable, flying MiG-27M / D / K fell into disrepair in a couple of years - there was no strength and means to maintain them in flight condition. Moreover, after these several years they were unsuitable for restoration even in the ARZ conditions !!! And how is Ukraine better in this regard? The youngest Ukrainian board must be at least 30 years old - the resource limit for the Su-24/27 and MiGs - after the collapse of the USSR, they did not receive new aircraft. And junk is falling literally before our eyes - the number of failures is off the charts. In general, the Ukrainian Air Force is now at the Chebenkov stage when the aircraft are ready)))) At most, several aircraft of each type can take off with great difficulty after several days of intensive training. The aircraft is a complex technique, does not tolerate a devil-may-care attitude.
  2. +3
    10 December 2021 09: 29
    The Mojave Aircraft Boneyard is the way to go.
    Oh, there are mostly civilians. At Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.
    Svidomo's eyes will light up when they see so much of everything ...
  3. +11
    10 December 2021 09: 30
    And what's in the ranks of all this?
    1. +4
      10 December 2021 10: 18
      Statistics say that in the "best houses" over 80%. If they have a third, then it is already an achievement, and if 50% is a direct feat.
  4. +2
    10 December 2021 09: 31
    But their friends can drive them to the aircraft, otherwise they all only threaten to burn Moscow, but they are not going into battle.
    They are fattened so that they die, and not just gallop ..
  5. +14
    10 December 2021 09: 32
    Do they have planes, too, in a state of "heavenly hundreds"? Or is it better?
  6. +8
    10 December 2021 09: 39
    Published data on the number of combat aircraft and helicopters in service with Ukraine
    so STAND or really just stand?
    1. -6
      10 December 2021 10: 08
      it is the active ones that are indicated in the reference book. Separately there is a column for ordered
      The link to the reference is given below.
  7. +10
    10 December 2021 09: 41
    in service with the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are 98 combat aircraft

    The creators of the guide did not specify how many of them can take to the air?
    1. +2
      10 December 2021 09: 46
      Quote: Fox_Fox
      how many of them can take to the air?

      A couple of kg of TNT under the belly, any flyer will be raised laughing
    2. -7
      10 December 2021 09: 56
      Well, they repair 10-15 boards a year, judging by the state defense order.

      And yes, in imitations of strikes on Russia from Shoigu, they completely flew.

      1. 0
        11 December 2021 10: 07
        Ascended into the sky, figuratively speaking. The pilots scatter, there are no spare parts.
  8. +8
    10 December 2021 09: 45
    For airplanes, more pilots are needed ... And it is not clear in what state the aircraft fleet is. So the power is considerable, if according to the list. LDNR could seriously suffer from these "letak" ... But the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not tried to use aviation for a long time. Protects? Or is there nothing to apply? And no one. The air defense of the LDNR is a mystery that we do not know. But there must be something?
    1. -13
      10 December 2021 10: 00
      Yes, su-27 or moment-29, how can they make a nightmare to the LDNR. Unless to shoot from a cannon.
      1. +11
        10 December 2021 10: 28
        Quote: Vlad69
        Yes, su-27 or moment-29, how can they make a nightmare to the LDNR. Is it possible to shoot from a cannon

        Their combat load can be several tons. The instant has up to 3 tons of bombs, the drying has up to 6.
        10 suspension knots. Well, that's a lot. WWII bombers - only 4-engine strategists carried so much. And the losses were serious.
        1. +3
          10 December 2021 11: 08
          They can, of course, hang, but this is only carpet bombing to do. They, bastards, can also visit cities. I hope ours will not allow this or will be severely punished.
        2. +6
          10 December 2021 11: 13
          In Pridnestrovie, in 12 year Mig-29, the Moldovan tried to bomb the railway bridge in Bendery in this way, but ended up in a neighboring village. I meant it, but not how much iron they will master to raise.
          1. +1
            11 December 2021 12: 59
            Modern Moldovans are pilots from God, with wings, like Georgians, wings are right on their backs ... Well, businessmen are excellent, you work less, you want more ...
    2. 0
      10 December 2021 10: 32
      they are afraid that the flyers, together with the pilots, will begin to nightmare the Natsiks and the Armed Forces, and then they will fly to Russia and request political asylum, therefore they do not apply
  9. +13
    10 December 2021 09: 54
    In this capacity, Ukraine would like to see American F-16s or Swedish JAS 39 Gripen.

    If for 30 years, not a single aircraft has been purchased, when the country's economy could afford it, now that Ukraine is living "on debt", then what thoughts could there be about purchasing new aircraft?
    Again another stuffing - "We can build a house, but we are afraid we will fall!"
    1. +1
      10 December 2021 11: 16
      Yes, sooner or later the NATO members will "urge" them on with combat eraplans. For loans that no one will give or as a gift. And the costs of training and operation are compensated. Remember the daily dollar investments in Afghanistan, in comparison with this, the cost of military pumping Ukraine is a penny.
      1. +2
        10 December 2021 11: 48
        Quote: Fachmann
        Yes, sooner or later the NATO members will "urge" them on with combat eraplans. For loans that no one will give or as a gift.

        Overly greedy Americans never make gifts (freebies). But on bail, they give. Maybe you will have to pay with land, maybe with "square" (which has already been laid down).
        1. +3
          10 December 2021 12: 35
          There is no freebie here. America and Co. clear goals and objectives, and Ukraine, today, is one of the instruments for solving these problems.
        2. 0
          11 December 2021 12: 49
          Nezalezhnosti is not a commodity, it is no longer there, everything is sold, without a trace.
  10. -8
    10 December 2021 10: 07
    The state of the helicopters and how many of them are capable of performing combat missions is also not indicated.

    In the reference book, the active ones are indicated separately and ordered in a separate column.
    Here is this guide.
    Data for Ukraine on page 32, for Russia - on page 28.

    https://www.flightglobal.com/download?ac=83735
    1. +7
      10 December 2021 12: 36
      active in this context - these are already purchased (available in the composition, standing in the parking lot), how many of them are actually combat-ready (have a resource, means of combat use and a trained crew) is a big question. The same question can be asked for any country of the directory. Most likely, the number of unwritten boards is indicated.
      1. -5
        10 December 2021 13: 31
        Did you decide it yourself or read it somewhere in the reference book?
        On what page?
        1. +6
          10 December 2021 15: 09
          The Polish Air Force includes 23 MiG-29 fighters. I'm afraid to lie to the source, but after a relatively recent accident with an aircraft of this type, information appeared that of this number, only a few aircraft are actually ready for flight.
        2. +4
          10 December 2021 15: 17
          The Angolan Air Force lists all 12 Su-1987 attack aircraft transferred to it already in 25. None of them broke? Over 30 years?
        3. +3
          10 December 2021 15: 22
          The Georgian Air Force still includes 2 Mi-14 helicopters, transferred by Ukraine, God knows when, and burned back in 2008. Photos on the net. New ones could not appear.
          Need more?
          How do you like Syria, which actively operates as many as 226 combat aircraft, incl. 2 MiG-25 to which for many years there is nothing of the word at all?
          1. -5
            10 December 2021 16: 00
            In this case, it is difficult to understand the meaning - why was it brought to VO?
            1. +10
              10 December 2021 16: 23
              On VO a lot of things are given and a lot of opinions are voiced. This is not an official website of any department, but a platform for the exchange of opinions and information. I am very glad that you shared this link. However, I would not be in a hurry to recklessly trust the media, which include both print and electronic resources.
        4. +3
          10 December 2021 15: 54
          And the 41 actively operated F-14 fighters of the Iranian Air Force, flying since 1979 without the supply of spare parts and means of aircraft destruction?
  11. +5
    10 December 2021 10: 15
    and not a word about the fact that 80% of these are not airplanes, but mountains of duralumin, which will never fly anywhere.
  12. +1
    10 December 2021 10: 32
    Quote: donavi49
    They have 5 +% of GDP going to the army according to the law.
    Well, Western partners are helping, just the day before yesterday they gave 1 billion pounds.
    "Good news from London: UK will highlight an additional £ 1 billion to support Ukraine... These are new investments, trade, security. Based on the results of my negotiations with Boris Johnson last year, the volume total British support to rise to £ 3,5bn", - wrote Zelensky.

    A bit wrong. Zelensky "twisted" the facts a little;) And Ukraine will not receive this money
  13. +3
    10 December 2021 10: 53
    As soon as the skakuasses join NATO, the Romanians will steal all aviation, along with fuel, from them! smile
  14. +3
    10 December 2021 11: 06
    It's funny. It's only been six years and this shit has turned into a routine. And the resource is completely rotten.
    1. -2
      11 December 2021 13: 15
      Pugacheva plus, Alexei minus, verbal provocation, what do you really propose to storm everyone?
      1. 0
        13 December 2021 09: 42
        Quote: ankir13
        Pugacheva plus, Alexei minus, verbal provocation, what do you really propose to storm everyone?

        Andrey. Of course, I understand that stupid and aggressive, in our time, the road is everywhere.
        And yet. From what have you come to such a conclusion, which gives you the right that now I must prove to you that I am not a camel?
        Where did you see the call for an assault, whatever? All I wanted to say was that we all too quickly forgot about "Novorossiya", "Russian Spring" and "Russian World". Projects, which literally five years ago lived most of the Russian population of Russia.
        And also about the fact that even on this, once the best military-patriotic resource, now the main part is made up of militant idiots and paid (or just stupid) provocateurs and talkers nothing.
        1. 0
          26 December 2021 00: 00
          Alexei. Time shows that neither New Russia, nor the Russian World and Spring have been forgotten, and many people live by this even now, and not only in Russia. Time shows, the resource is still not rotten. However, 6 years is not a period, it can take decades of painstaking work for the lost to realize where they have ended up. It is impossible to force it, so that everything does not turn into big, total blood. The restrained policy of Russia towards Ukraine is justified, it takes time for the Ukrainians to remember that they are the Outskirts of the Russian Land, after the breakup of the Union, they were processing them for a long time, but now the process is reversed, obviously. 6 years is not a time limit, in this I saw the call for an assault, events cannot be rushed, my opinion, they will ripen.
          1. 0
            26 December 2021 01: 00
            Quote: ankir13
            It is impossible to force it, so that everything does not turn into big, total blood.

            I agree.
            I'm glad you understand me.
            Moreover, for several years now I have been saying here that it is easier to fight the fascist musk oxen with a gas pipe. Well, or something like that. More than our fighters.
            Well, yes, of course. They themselves will soon split into "ours and theirs."
            ...
            On the other hand .. I'm not a Nazi and not an outrageous hedonist, but it seems to me that there is a showdown for many years. However, it is so for many years. Thanks to the Pshek priests and Rome. They dug deeply there (in the once native Poland and the western outskirts of Russia). But nevertheless, polls (for today) show that the older generation of salo-eaters misses the USSR. This is understandable. The RSFSR drove the loot to the republics as undermined. The people had some guarantees of life, work and housing. There was some development on the remnants of Stalin's "blows". Especially among the Tribalts and the Caucasus (these then lived like cheese in butter, happened to, there is something to compare, a native and not the last Muscovite). But the Little Russians did not forget.
            What is noteworthy is that after the restoration of White Russia (with their unrealistic population losses, as a result of WWII), there were no special trenches. But it was there that everything that was created in the USSR was preserved. Well, almost everything.
            In general, I beg your pardon for the harshness, but you also read me carefully.
          2. 0
            26 December 2021 01: 17
            Well, about AB's clip ..
            Here it is ..
            I worked as a sound engineer for almost 25 years (traveled on tour from Riga to Khabarovsk, built several studios, wrote classics of Russian literature) and I know this pop cuisine, probably better than everyone else here.
            Alla .. A person in a certain format. Some claims can be made against her, but the fact is that she is a major actress in our stage. This is a fact.
            But that's not what I mean. I mean that here, on this patriotic resource, Mozgovoy, Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenoko were very quickly forgotten. Yes, I understand that they will immediately pile on me a bunch of crap about them, but they were some kind of romantics of this war. Its some (relatively speaking) knights who really wanted to change something and fill the Russian Spring with their radiance.
            About Strelkov and generally keep quiet. I wrote about him. Crap in all the media and here, in full. And the man is very, very, and in a good Russian.
            This is ALL and saddens me, immeasurably.
            That's why I posted this pop video.

            Oh .. will come running now, democratic champions of certain rights, certain people ..
    2. +1
      11 December 2021 15: 38
      Thanks for Pugacheva. I have not heard this song.
  15. 0
    10 December 2021 11: 27
    And how many of them are combat-ready?
  16. +1
    10 December 2021 11: 27
    1 Ka-226 Helicopter
    I wonder where they got it from ?! This is clearly not a Soviet legacy, its exploitation began in 2002
    1. +4
      10 December 2021 11: 44
      In 2007, the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Ukraine bought. The scheme there is interesting, a Ukrainian LLC bought a helicopter from KumAPP through a Canadian firm and sold it to the Ukrainian Ministry of Emergency Situations. A helicopter in a medical evacuation version, in 2018, with the help of volunteers, it was handed over to the Naval Forces of Ukraine.
    2. 0
      10 December 2021 12: 51
      Maybe a typo about the Ka226? request
  17. exo
    +1
    10 December 2021 12: 11
    A helicopter, probably a Ka26. They hardly managed to buy the Ka-226.
  18. -1
    10 December 2021 12: 21
    The F-35 is also in service before the ZHO, but only 30% of these aircraft can take off. Ukraine, with its great economy, is probably 100% in good condition, so to speak, on the wing.
  19. +1
    10 December 2021 13: 10
    As they say in Odessa - there is a big difference, the number of airplanes on a piece of paper and those that can conduct an air battle "at the limit")))
  20. +1
    10 December 2021 13: 34
    If the Americans have Fu-22 of the payroll in serviceable only 30% .. and what to say about the Territory without signs of the state. Of the 100 listed aircraft in good working order and condition to fight, probably 5 pieces will be typed, and that is good.
  21. 0
    10 December 2021 14: 01
    In this capacity, Ukraine would like to see American F-16s or Swedish JAS 39 Gripen.

    And in what quality and form do they want to receive fuel and lubricants for their entire army? belay feel
    1. 0
      10 December 2021 18: 21
      In solid it is natural. negative lol lol
      1. 0
        11 December 2021 13: 23
        Quote: Ros 56
        In solid it is natural.

        And preferably with the face of an American president.
  22. +1
    10 December 2021 14: 17
    Dreaming is not bad, it's bad not to dream. lol
  23. -1
    10 December 2021 18: 21
    And why count them, then the plate ran through, who has how many airplanes, these Natsiks have around 300 pieces. All aviation is written in bulk. As far as I understand, this is together with civilians.
  24. 0
    10 December 2021 18: 39
    Published data on the number of combat aircraft and helicopters in service with Ukraine

    do not care, the main thing is that the comrades know that they have driven their own people to the slaughter, that they will not be able to fly away and that they will be brought to justice by the crowd ... as one colonel
  25. 0
    10 December 2021 18: 55
    only reference books can be published
  26. +5
    10 December 2021 19: 50
    With the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine seized 4 air armies of the USSR Air Force, in addition to this, units of army aviation of the ground forces, aviation schools of the Air Force (in each from 3 to 5 uap), training centers of the Air Force, aviation units of the central subordination of the Air Force, Navy, Air Defense , Strategic Missile Forces, PV, etc., in general, several thousand aircraft, including those that are clearly unnecessary for them. And where are they now? For example, long-range aviation divisions were squeezed out, and then they were pleasantly surprised that 160-150 tons of fuel had to be poured into it before the Tu-170 took off and no one was going to supply it to Ukraine for free. Ukraine is not one of those. A simple question: how old is the newest Ukrainian aircraft? The answer is at least 30. I no longer ask who extends the aircraft's flight life, where are the repairs and maintenance carried out, where the spare parts come from (especially the last 7 years), what is the annual flight time of pilots, how many trained crews are there, and how many of two hundred Can aircraft fly in? Let me remind you that in 2014 in the Crimea in Belbek in the 204 brigade of tactical aviation, famous for the flying march on foot with howling "She ne vmerla" and shouts of "America is with us" out of 45 aircraft, as many as 4 could fly (that's why they marched with infantry, that nothing does not fly, in Novonefedovka in the brigade of naval aviation, almost a dozen aircraft flew to Nikolaev, no one bothered them). How much better is it now? Although, in any case, it is not for the "obedient forces" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to compete with the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation.
  27. +3
    10 December 2021 20: 34
    These aircraft are many for 30 years. Those. they do not have modern electronic warfare systems, the resources are extended many times over-extended. Pilots fly very little. Those. at least there are no master pilots and snipers. The RF Aerospace Forces also have many problems, but the level of training and equipment for the PVS of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is simply fantastic. So what remains to write to the clown, that we were given a penny, we will soon buy new litaki. We're still ogogo and agugu.
    I am sure that the scenario 080808 is ahead of us. And we will be guilty, and accordingly sanctions, restrictions, etc., etc. Therefore, if anything, then it will be necessary to force the Nazis to peace more harshly than rodents.
  28. 0
    11 December 2021 01: 21
    Quote: swnvaleria
    and then they will fly to Russia and request political asylum

    I wonder how many such cases were there in 2014-2018?
  29. 0
    11 December 2021 04: 46
    "Dreams - dreams" ........ except for nasty nothing !!! For the military-industrial complex and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, such a failure is death.
  30. 0
    11 December 2021 07: 52
    1 Ka-226 Helicopter

    When did Ukraine manage to drink it ...?
    43 light fighters MiG-29, 26 heavy fighters Su-27, 12 front-line bombers Su-24

    The number of MiG-29s is overestimated, and the Su-24Rs are not indicated ...
  31. wow
    0
    11 December 2021 18: 46
    And who will give them !? They will not give money for sure, because. understand that they will be immediately plundered ....
  32. 0
    11 December 2021 21: 15
    When they look at photographs of their military forces, they themselves become terrified of where to get kerosene and bonboots for them.
  33. -3
    11 December 2021 22: 14
    You read the comments and understand how rich our land is with narrow-minded people and hats ((((As soon as our resource or some ordinary observer writes that the Sharavarniks have 2 tanks and those are rusty, then no one needs any confirmation or facts, right there in the comments laugh and joy. Will there be fewer planes, or will the performance characteristics deteriorate? A smart person and especially a military man, having heard about the threat, begins to prepare and think how to neutralize it, and the commentators are smiling here ... do you think that they have only been stealing over the past 8 years and did nothing? I think The republics of Donbass, which celebrated victory in 2014-2016 and talked about Little Russia from the number of 7 regions, now they no longer have fun when American intelligence officers are poking around like they did before ma, UAV, etc. A week ago, we read here about the approximate number of tanks they have, a month ago there was an article about the fleet and there they also laughed from 2 dozen of their boats, from a dozen under construction in France, from 8 British missile boats and 2 minesweepers that are already under construction, from American 7 " Islands "laughing, with 18 Mark 6 boats, they also smiled, now the Turks are already building either two or three missile Corvettes, the Britons will finish building their Frigate 3, which is so passive, at about the same time we read about negotiations with the Danes about the purchase of 58250 Havkatten patrol ships (with missile weapons and everything related) and in fact they will buy for their own money or for American, British or others. And in the end, potentially in 3-6 years, count how much from the funny Ukraine on rubber boats some 8 years ago, will it end up only from the already concluded contracts?
    Do you think that if the next "provocation", as happens every year, Ukraine will not roll over and they will not throw a couple of F-15 or F-16 squadrons under some programs, or some French "Rafalea" for American money so that the French do not whine with regards to "other" contracts with Australia? They will easily do that, for them this is not a lot of money, but visually framed as help against aggressive Russia. And we will laugh while the squadrons go there, as we once laughed about the "Jewelins", now we laugh about the Islands and British missile boats, and then because of our stupidity we ourselves will not notice how the fleet, the bases, and the Air Force are there, and that it will be necessary. The main thing is to make fun of, and not to counteract and assess the situation realistically, right?
    1. 0
      11 December 2021 23: 56
      Quote: Alexandr Bogun
      Do you think that if the next "provocation", as happens every year, Ukraine will not roll over and they will not throw a couple of F-15 or F-16 squadrons under some programs, or some French "Rafalea" for American money so that the French do not whine with regards to "other" contracts with Australia?

      yes you are a dreamer, my friend)))) no one 404 - oh, for so nothing will give, and even more so such a number of aircraft. and even a small question, but they will give their own flyers too ??? wassat
      on these overseas animals it is necessary be able to fly, and not only, you need to be able to fight on them))) something like this
      1. -1
        12 December 2021 01: 25
        yes you are a dreamer, my friend))))
        These are not fantasies, but assumptions. Some 8 years ago, the same thing could have been said about the "Jewelins", and about the Islands, and about Bayraktars and UAVs as a type of weapon in general ... for "Svidomo" it was generally something incomprehensible. And now it is already an everyday reality, despite the fact that we ourselves do not yet have massively attack UAVs of this class. I would not be so optimistic that those who are able to fly on 4+ generation aircraft and cannot train for such a generation only from another manufacturer. This is a matter of a year of normal training in the United States, with the extension of training already somewhere at American bases in Europe, the same applies to service personnel for various types of fighter models. If it seems to you that I am a dreamer, then you yourself can look for information about how in Ukraine for some reason they not just repair their airfields, but modernize them to Western standards for the reception and permanent basing of aviation that is in service with NATO countries, why do you think why to put it mildly not the most affluent country, in what will not be based on these airfields? Plus a few years ago, here on the site there was an article about the fact that pilots from Ukraine were seen at the National Guard airbase in the United States. And it is on the base where foreign pilots are trained on the F-15 and F-16. Does it seem not serious and funny to you? And this does not add joy to me seeing the general trend. We started with Humvees, then night vision devices, small reconnaissance UAVs, then rubber boats, then sniper rifles, then ammunition for them, after the "Islands" patrol boats, now the Jewelins are coming and already they will be given the Mark 6 by combat patrol boats. what will prevent them from transferring further helicopters, no matter which ones, and then coming to aviation? It seems to me that it was not in vain that business with airfields began and pilots from the "Sharavarna" in the United States have been shining for several years at their military bases ...
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          15 December 2021 12: 53
          and, you are in the subject that for all that is transferred, Ukraine will have to pay ??? and, I think, to a greater extent, by its territory ...
          1. -3
            16 December 2021 03: 46
            no, I haven’t read the contracts between them, it’s just not possible. Regarding the fact that you will have to pay, this is understandable, but the fact that they will pay with their territory, here I am sooo skeptical about this. Not all countries, especially to the west of us, are soared by such a concept as the size of the territory. Why do they need territory if they control the whole country politically and the further the more economically? We do not live in the 19th century and now control is much more important than size.
            And the fact that they will pay is a fact, just like that no one helps, and as for me they are already paying with their political actions that are beneficial to the West. And you don't need to treat this as the fact that it is at a loss to someone, NATO and America can force states to allocate money for the defense industry, and this is hundreds of billions of dollars a year, and the price of a couple of hundred million dollars of arms assistance to Ukraine a year is a penny for them, and Ukraine has been a trigger for 8 years. At the same time, we are "agriminating" at this, and it starts the wheel over and over, year after year. Under the same pretext, the Americans rally their allies in Eastern Europe, the Anglo-Saxons (British, Australians), slowly dragging central Europe into the game. The Sharavarniks are also good, they do what they want, and at the same time they receive more or less weapons or loans at almost within British interest. Therefore, everything is not as sad as we would like, it is not for nothing that access to international loans is considered a plus, not a minus, even here. It is bad not to take loans, and not be able to service them.
  34. +1
    12 December 2021 12: 45
    It remains to clarify how much of the aforementioned equipment is able to get off the ground.
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    2 January 2022 17: 06
    Ukraine has calculated and now Europe will breathe deeply. The strongest army in the world has something to protect Europe and its sky. Only this is what will happen if the Ukrainian pilot falls ill, who will cover the skies of Europe.
  36. 0
    10 February 2022 21: 52
    "In this capacity, Ukraine would like to see ...."
    Impressed.