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Ukrainian Navy ship that does not respond to warnings is heading for the Kerch Strait

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Another provocation of the Ukrainian Navy may occur in the Kerch Strait, where the Ukrainian command ship "Donbass" (A500) is moving, which does not respond to warnings from the border service of the FSB of the Russian Federation. The Ukrainian ship does not have a permit to cross the strait.


According to the press service of the FSB of the Russian Federation, the command ship of the Ukrainian Navy "Donbass" on the morning of December 9, 2021 left the port of Mariupol and headed towards the Kerch Strait. He did not submit applications for the passage of the strait. At about 13:15 pm, the ship of the Coast Guard of the Russian FSB Border Service, accompanying the Donbass, warned the commander of the Ukrainian ship about the need to apply for passage through the strait, to which the reply was received that the ship of the Ukrainian Navy did not plan to pass through the strait.

At the time of publication of the material, "Donbass" was about 18 nautical miles from the strait, moving in its direction, does not react to requests to change the course.

The control ship "Donbass" of the Ukrainian Navy was built as a floating workshop "PM-9" of project 304 in Poland. Laid down on July 17, 1969, launched on November 29, 1969, commissioned on September 30, 1970. Full displacement 5520 tons. Length 121,7 meters, width 17 meters, draft 4,62 meters. Full speed 14 knots. Cruising range 13000 miles at 8 knots. The crew is 131 people.

It became a part of the High-Speed ​​Line of Ukraine in 1997 as a floating workshop, in 2001 it was retrained as a command ship. Since 2014 he has been stationed in Odessa. He arrived in the Sea of ​​Azov in 2018 together with the tugboat Korets, passing the Kerch Strait accompanied by Russian border ships without any incidents. Based in Mariupol.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 9 December 2021 23: 01
    +16
    To drown or not to drown? That's the question. I think it's time to drown. It's time to learn how to make this responsible decision, otherwise they will be scared. This time, let the coastal complexes work. The captain and crew know what they are doing.
    1. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh 9 December 2021 23: 10
      +18
      I beg of you. It keeps afloat only thanks to its hydration. It's scary to approach him for half a century.
      1. Hto tama
        Hto tama 9 December 2021 23: 18
        +11
        What do you suggest? Give way because of his old age? wassat
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 10 December 2021 05: 00
          +1
          Crew 131 man.

          Former US agent Bennett revealed the secret meaning of Ukraine's maneuver near the Kerch Strait
          Namely.
          Kiev wanted to test Moscow's reaction to Ukraine's provocative maneuver near the Kerch Strait. At the same time, for sure, the crew was in the smallest number in case of the sinking of the intruder ship by Russia in the Kerch Strait.

          Bennett believes that The West wants to create a platform for its "statements, demands, warnings, threats against Russia because of some far-fetched or fabricated cases."
          In his opinion, accusing Russia of allegedly preparing an invasion of Ukraine is one of them. "And the ship is just an excuse" - He explained.

          See details - https://lenta.ru/news/2021/12/10/korabl/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
        2. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 10 December 2021 10: 05
          +1
          What do you suggest? Give way because of his old age?
          that neither! You can just peel off the paint from the sides. Itself will fall apart!
          We talked about such steamers (as well as about our own) - "only on paint and keeps"
        3. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 10 December 2021 14: 24
          +1
          Give way because of his old age?

          at the Crimean bridge there are three duty barges to block the fairway
          so all this is garbage - the scenarios have already been worked out in the General Staff
      2. iouris
        iouris 9 December 2021 23: 28
        -9
        I have a question: what if he was carrying cartridges?
        1. The black
          The black 9 December 2021 23: 48
          +1
          I wonder how much you can bail out for this rusty trough if you hand it over for scrap?
        2. Roman_vh
          Roman_vh 10 December 2021 00: 05
          +3
          Everything seemed to be resolved like that. And it is difficult to find so many alternative gifts to the team even in science.
          1. The black
            The black 10 December 2021 00: 13
            +1
            Well, well ... at least the brains were enough not to go on the rampage ... otherwise, I feel sorry for the sailors
          2. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 10 December 2021 00: 35
            +5
            Quote: Roman_VH
            Everything seemed to be resolved like that. And it is difficult to find so many alternative gifts to the team even in science.

            Well, where were we sailing? Like turned around? How was it resolved?
            And, on the return course lay down! Well, 21 it’s not iron, the water is icy, although the sea is shallow, but drowning is enough. Nobody wants to.
    2. Hto tama
      Hto tama 9 December 2021 23: 13
      +22
      Drowning, definitely, sanctions will be without it, even if at least once for the case soldier drinks . Stop breeding rudeness am
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 9 December 2021 23: 15
        +18
        So I think so - even if we work out the sanctions, it won't be so offensive ..
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 10 December 2021 07: 51
          +6
          About sanctions - it's like the saying - "If you are undeservedly insulted - come back and deserve!"
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 10 December 2021 13: 41
        -1
        Quote: hto tama
        Drowning, definitely, sanctions will be without it, even if at least once for the case soldier drinks . Stop breeding rudeness am

        Why wave your hands ahead of time? Until he stuck his head into the strait, let him live. Now, if it goes under the bridge, then it will be possible to make a decision.
    3. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 10 December 2021 08: 33
      0
      You cannot drown, the strait is shallow, it will interfere later
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 10 December 2021 13: 32
        0
        Tell!? And who is this "command ship" running?
        What if he began to sink for natural reasons right next to the strait?
        The West would shout - did the Russians sink it?
        And where are the boats with the BMP towers? from Couture-Poroshenko? Last time they accompanied a similar trough! We desperately need new latrines from them ... Last time they returned them with a hole in the sewer pipe without toilet bowls like.
        1. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 10 December 2021 16: 07
          +1
          Who knows what and how he controls. Called a flagship and launched on the waves
  2. ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 9 December 2021 23: 06
    +11
    Apparently, a surplus of ships was formed in the Naval Forces of Ukraine after they overtook the decommissioned boats and inflatable boats.
    1. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 9 December 2021 23: 45
      +2
      Quote: ermak124.0
      Apparently, a surplus of ships was formed in the Naval Forces of Ukraine after they overtook the decommissioned boats and inflatable boats.

      Most likely we got the command "to board" from the USA. Everything went too well in favor of Russia. And the United States has nothing to do with it, after all, everyone saw Biden's negotiations with Putin, they (the United States) are only for the WORLD. And Russia, bad, has messed up again, sanctions need to be introduced, but we didn’t want that. Something like this.
    2. den3080
      den3080 10 December 2021 01: 58
      +3
      Quote: ermak124.0
      Apparently, a surplus of ships was formed in the Naval Forces of Ukraine after they overtook the decommissioned boats and inflatable boats.

      There just new toilets were fitted by the British, on credit. Of the £ XNUMX billion recently approved.
      Duck, the toilets had already been dismantled in the huts, and then they remembered that they had to be shown to the creditors :)) to report back.
      So they drove the trough, so that later they said: curse m ... or they took away the truncated
  3. Graz
    Graz 9 December 2021 23: 10
    +4
    drown without hesitation as soon as it comes to a dangerous distance
    1. Stepan S
      Stepan S 10 December 2021 01: 03
      +3
      This tub will drown right on the fairway, blocking traffic for a long time. It is dangerous to drown it.
  4. Evil troll
    Evil troll 9 December 2021 23: 11
    +4
    Where did you go looking at night? It was necessary in the afternoon, with pomp, with speeches. And so it looks like an escape into captivity.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 9 December 2021 23: 12
    +11
    Closer to what distance to the bridge, he has no right to approach, without permission and escort?
    By the way, to drown in the fairway ... the idea is so-so, then you have to get it.
    1. Silver bullet
      Silver bullet 9 December 2021 23: 29
      +8
      The boat crept to the fairway, Neozhpapa commanded the boat
      The border guards were not joking, the Banderaites were warned
      the plane flew with OFABs, rock the clowns, meet crabs
      saw the nearest buoy from the chevna, remembered the phrase "Press him on (but rhyme is forbidden here)"
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 December 2021 00: 13
      0
      Tervody 22,2 km, and the rules of free passage, go down below to the post of Vladimir Vasilenko, there is an article completely about the rules of free passage, and not part of the article as we like to quote from Ukraine. hi
  6. paul3390
    paul3390 9 December 2021 23: 14
    +9
    Does it have toilets? what
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  7. falx
    falx 9 December 2021 23: 20
    +7
    already swam (not go) home.
    https://ria.ru/20211209/korabl-1763042431.html
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 9 December 2021 23: 27
      +4
      In general, what it was, it was even interesting at what distance from our waters he turned around in his own way. And in general, at what speed he was sneaking. There would be no show, I still hoped that he would go into the therweds half a corps, before turning on three red lights vertically on the mast, that kind of limited in maneuver. Even this was not. Upset.
      1. falx
        falx 9 December 2021 23: 33
        +2
        intelligence service?
        wanted to determine when the border guards would pay attention to them, how far they would run them, how long their pants would stay dry ...
        for provoking hype is not enough ...
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 9 December 2021 23: 45
        +5
        Interested persons tried to disrupt tomorrow's meeting about the land without the land. But they got a call from the State Department and had to be channeled back. Zrada.
        You are all angry here. Why drown them when we can call Baydon. bully
    2. Hto tama
      Hto tama 9 December 2021 23: 37
      +6
      Well, what was that? belay Does the clown have a gut? Yes, they are shallow in 404. Providers. Last time Petya apparently took more on his chest what .But the sanctions will still be wassat
      1. falx
        falx 9 December 2021 23: 44
        +3
        tomorrow at 404 they will announce the great permog! conducted reconnaissance right at the Bridge!
  8. vl903
    vl903 9 December 2021 23: 21
    -7
    Interestingly, the bulls of the Kerch bridge will withstand the impact of such a boat? I think they should, of course, if it is without explosives
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 December 2021 00: 19
      +6
      He is 22,2 km under fire to go to the bridge if he goes in without permission. And there is something to shoot around the bridge, from Balov to S 400, plus aviation and helicopters, and there is something to meet at sea. Rossguard is responsible for underwater safety. hydroacoustic complexes. The bridge is a strategic object and is guarded accordingly.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 10 December 2021 03: 41
        +1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        He is 22,2 km under fire to go to the bridge

        As far as I know, the fairway is narrow there ... How close, you have to drown to make it difficult ..? hi
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 10 December 2021 08: 45
          0
          The fairway there is winding, in order to block it he needs to drown on anchors. hi
  9. AVA77
    AVA77 9 December 2021 23: 24
    +1
    I see it from the sofa, make holes in it, and then as it goes, it drowns, so there he goes, the main thing is not on the fairway.
  10. impostor
    impostor 9 December 2021 23: 29
    +1
    French President Emmanuel Macron called on Russia to de-escalate the situation on the border with Ukraine, stressing that the current level of tension, from his point of view, is counterproductive.
    Yeah, shchaz ... said clown and disappeared behind the grating of the storm drain of Khreschatyk
  11. Skipper
    Skipper 9 December 2021 23: 31
    +6
    Well it started !!!! Again they want to step on the same rake .... on children's ... but it will all end the same - they will shoot a 57 mm blank into the wheelhouse or at the propeller, and then at the parking lot, when examined, shit splashes will be visible everywhere.
  12. Constanty
    Constanty 9 December 2021 23: 32
    -11
    The Ukrainian ship does not have a permit to cross the strait.


    "Innocent passage" is a common law enshrined in the Geneva Convention on the Territorial Sea and Contiguous Zone of 1958, and then in the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea (Articles 17-32), which ensures the navigation of ships of all flags through territorial sea ​​(art 17), archipelagic waters (art 52) ​​and exclusively inland sea waters (art 8 (2)) and therefore through the sea territory of a state.

    - to cross the territorial sea without entering the internal waters or to stop outside the internal waters at the roadstead or at a port facility (traverse or direct crossing);
    - Entry to the roadstead or port facility or exit from it (entry / exit). "
    1. poquello
      poquello 9 December 2021 23: 43
      +3
      Quote: Constanty
      "Peaceful passage (ang. Innocent passage) - common law,

      deeply do not care, there is a strategic bridge, the order is determined by the FSB
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 9 December 2021 23: 51
      +15
      maybe you will fully cite the article? !!!

      According to Article 19 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, innocent passage means the navigation of a vessel through the territorial sea or exclusive economic zone for the purpose of:

      a) go to the port or leave the port
      b) cross territorial waters without stopping.
      Swimming should be continuous and fast, but a stop is allowed if it is associated with normal swimming, is necessary due to force majeure or to help those in distress.

      The passage is considered peaceful, if it does not violate the peace, public order and security of the coastal state... When carrying out innocent passage, any activity related to:

      with the threat or use of force against a coastal state
      with military exercises
      with the collection of any information, including hydrographic and scientific
      with the rise in the air or taking on board any aircraft
      with any fishing activity
      with the loading and unloading of goods, boarding or disembarking persons contrary to the laws of the coastal state.
      The coastal state has the right to take measures to terminate or prevent the aforementioned prohibited activities of a foreign vessel. For the exercise of the right of innocent passage, the coastal State shall not be entitled to collect any duties from a passing vessel. At the same time, the coastal state has the right to temporarily suspend the exercise of the right of innocent passage in certain parts of its territorial sea, if this is necessary to ensure its safety. Such suspension should apply without discrimination to all foreign ships.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 December 2021 00: 06
        +8
        Thank you, otherwise, on VO, lovers of innocent passageways never publish the entire article of the treaty, only a part of it, to justify their actions and accuse us. But after reading the article, everything is clear. hi
      2. Constanty
        Constanty 10 December 2021 00: 10
        -16
        if it does not violate the peace, public order and security of the coastal state. When carrying out innocent passage, any activity related to:

        with the threat or use of force against a coastal state
        with military exercises
        with the collection of any information, including hydrographic and scientific
        with the rise in the air or taking on board any aircraft
        with any fishing activity
        with the loading and unloading of goods, boarding or disembarking persons contrary to the laws of the coastal state.


        After all, the one built in Poland in 1969 as a "warship" is not even armed and equipped with any equipment capable of performing the aforementioned operations.

        I agree that his cruise is a provocation (and bad), but based on the law of the sea, there is no real reason to stop him - only political and image considerations.
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 10 December 2021 08: 15
          +5
          And where did you get information that it is not equipped with reconnaissance equipment, and also does not carry a load of weapons or explosives? Stop, make a search, if all the latrines are in place, so be it, allow the passage. Otherwise, regard it as a firebrand, with all the ensuing consequences.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 10 December 2021 08: 55
          +4
          Quote: Constanty
          but, based on the law of the sea, there is no real reason to stop it - only political and image considerations.

          At the same time, the coastal state has the right to temporarily suspend the exercise of the right of innocent passage in certain parts of its territorial sea, if this is necessary to ensure its safety.

          the question is closed
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        4. Piramidon
          Piramidon 10 December 2021 13: 49
          +2
          You try some kind of Bosphorus without permits and notifications to go straight away, in a brazen way.
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  14. Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 December 2021 23: 39
    +1
    If you drown, will not block the fairway?
  15. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 December 2021 23: 41
    +1
    Ukrainian Navy ship that does not respond to warnings is heading for the Kerch Strait
    already sailed away
  16. Sergey39
    Sergey39 9 December 2021 23: 44
    +4
    The panheads were planning an action, but the owners, said fu and the given trough turned home! (((
  17. opuonmed
    opuonmed 9 December 2021 23: 55
    -4
    and what the Americans can shove into this ship, well, or're coming out of the patriots, well, it's about hypathetic)
  18. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 9 December 2021 23: 59
    +1
    Already rolling back
  19. alystan
    alystan 10 December 2021 00: 03
    +1
    The control ship "Donbass" of the Ukrainian Navy was built as a floating workshop "PM-9" of project 304 in Poland. Laid down on July 17, 1969, launched on November 29, 1969, commissioned on September 30, 1970.

    Is there no mistake here, it was painful to quickly "sculpt" the hulls of such ships! Only 4 months and 10 days!
    And it took only 14 months and 13 days to put it into operation! That's how the pace was!
    1. Avior
      Avior 10 December 2021 00: 23
      -2
      No mistake, all 13 units of Project 304 were made at such a fast pace
      http://russianships.info/vspomog/304.htm
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 10 December 2021 07: 58
        +1
        all 13 units of project 304 were made at such a fast pace

        They overwhelmed at the Gdansk shipyards at such a pace, the electrician Walesa was especially affected, after 12 years he called everyone to take a break from work.
        1. Avior
          Avior 10 December 2021 08: 09
          -2
          You got a bit of a mistake here. Walesa worked and unionized at the Gdansk shipyards, and project 304 was being built in Szczecin, on the other side of Poland.
          construction

          Project 304 - Poland, Szczecin Adolf Warskego "- 13 units

          The article is also either a mistake, or a deliberate distortion - Donbass is not a command ship, but a search and rescue vessel.
          I don’t know what kind of threat it carried.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 10 December 2021 08: 12
            0
            It is clear that if Walesa really worked, then he would not have dreamed of working as president (there would be a specialty), and a trade unionist is a direct road to preziki.
            1. Avior
              Avior 10 December 2021 08: 18
              -2
              Why, he worked as an electrician since 1967, and began to unionize only in 1980, however, he was immediately fired
              1. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 10 December 2021 08: 19
                0
                Clearly, as he ran into the ceiling of the electrician's tariff grid, he began to think about where it could be surpassed.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 10 December 2021 14: 29
                  0
                  Gdansk Shipyard named after Lenin - as it was officially called - has traditionally been the center of protests and strikes in Poland. Already in 1970 there were massive protests of the shipyard workers - Walesa was already noted in the leadership of the strike - which the authorities dispersed by troops - about fifty people were killed, and more than a thousand received various injuries.
  20. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 10 December 2021 00: 04
    0
    maybe there is a reason?
    In November, the US Navy missile destroyer Arleigh Burke (DDG-51) entered the Black Sea. The mission of the battleship is to start working with NATO allies and partners in the region.
  21. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 10 December 2021 01: 27
    +2
    Quote: hto tama
    What do you suggest? Give way because of his old age? wassat

    drive tugboats under guard, hook up and throw them to the hegs for drying
  22. LAWNER
    LAWNER 10 December 2021 04: 37
    0
    Now they will often do that. The British know how to fight with someone else's hands. And the name of the ship is suitable for information warfare.
  23. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 10 December 2021 04: 38
    0
    "Best friends" stubbornly push to Calvary !!! The decision is made by the supreme, and he is no stranger to "wipe".
  24. viktor.
    viktor. 10 December 2021 05: 52
    0
    Need to drown! And without us the Experts, that is, Silently and not disclosing to anyone!
  25. Vdi73
    Vdi73 10 December 2021 07: 15
    -2
    Raguli trick our religions, and ours are making a fuss ahead of time, especially the media in pursuit of noisy news, what if some kind of kipish happens further, and we were silent. Violate, then release news feeds, and so you gave the Ragul what they wanted, hype for nothing, they did their job, smiled and went back.
  26. Kapkan
    Kapkan 10 December 2021 11: 22
    0
    Probably, mines were thrown for provocation in the future. It is now necessary to check the water area along the way, after they were dumped ...
  27. GAndr
    GAndr 10 December 2021 13: 55
    0
    Well, we risked h.h.h.l. an old trough, and we would have sunk it, nothing would have changed. Only the stench of their dark-skinned and iridescent masters would raise.
    Here it is not necessary to drown a decrepit trough, but to create such a situation in which any responsible person from the land of eternal dreams would not even have a thought to give an order for such an adventure.
    They should be stupidly afraid to say something bad, and not something to do, in the direction of Russia.
    I never tire of citing as an example the preventive work of Jews in this direction. I'm not talking about bombing now, the Jews do a lot and quietly, so much so that before doing something to the enemy in their direction, the decision maker thinks for a very, very long time.
  28. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 11 December 2021 05: 44
    -1
    How else does it keep afloat? Probably all the cracks were dug and missed with tar. It is his fate to lie at the bottom or at the ferrous metal collection point for a long time. And why won't our border guards help him to go to the bottom in the kingdom of Neptune? lol
  29. Alexfly
    Alexfly 11 December 2021 12: 41
    0
    Well, here, you can check how the Bastions work ...