Assessing the international situation, Putin called on the military to "keep gunpowder dry"

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Assessing the international situation, Putin called on the military to "keep gunpowder dry"
Russia must "keep its powder dry", taking into account the practice of using force in modern international relations. According to Interfax, this was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who arrived on Monday for the Kavkaz-2012 exercises in southern Russia. There he spoke to distinguished servicemen.

“You are perfectly prepared, you are all competent people, you see what is happening in the world, you see how, unfortunately, the use of force is growing in international affairs. All of this suggests that we must keep our powder dry, we must increase Russia's defense capability” , - declared Putin.

Earlier, we recall, the very fact of the exercises and their nature alerted Georgia: four years ago, there were also exercises near its borders and it is known how it all ended. In Russia, such statements were called "hype."

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Vladimir Putin in his speech confirmed that the authorities of the country will continue to strengthen defense capabilities, equip troops with modern equipment, and solve social problems of servicemen. "The value of your work, your service to the Fatherland will only increase," the president said.

He noted that military service has always been honorable. “Even in the most difficult times, when we didn’t have such opportunities, like today, neither supply new equipment nor social issues, as you deserve, were always in the ranks of people who defended the Fatherland with their breasts. they begged for nothing, but when they got up they got up and went into battle. People who are not afraid of anything, believe in their homeland and love it. I know that such soldiers are in this too, "Putin said to the servicemen.

Putin’s teachings impressed: he rated them excellent

As for the exercises themselves, during the presentation of state awards to servicemen of the Southern Military District, the president praised them greatly.

Immediately upon arrival at the Rajewski range, he went to the command altitude in order to observe everything personally. The servicemen worked out the actions of units in the course of conducting maneuverable defense at an intermediate line.

Putin was shown in detail on the map the location of the defending forces and the intended direction of the strike of the conditional enemy. According to the legend of the exercises, the "attackers" landed naval troops on the coast and, with the support of armored vehicles, are developing an offensive inland.

Armored units, motorized rifle units, air defense forces, artillery, mortars and other means were involved in repelling the attack. The troops of the defenders constantly maneuvered with the support of artillery, during the exercise they forced the conditional enemy to change the direction of the strike and advance in a favorable direction.

To support motorized rifle units in support of defense, attacks on enemy forces were organized using self-propelled guns and tanks, from the air on the “attackers” the front-line was constantly “working” aviation and attack helicopters: rushing noise over the observation post at a command height, they shot off heat traps, striking at the places of accumulation of "aggressors". Meanwhile, the air defense reflected the attempts of the “attackers” to strike from the air and land the landing: during one of the episodes of the exercises, dozens of parachutes were opened in the sky above the field of maneuvers with targets suspended on them to work out the destruction of the enemy landing.

In the end, the conditional opponent exhausted the possibilities for offensive action and was stopped by the defenders.

"Here, not only on maps, but in the field, are all the most important elements of modern combat being worked out, the skills and skills of commanders and soldiers are being improved, and on the whole, a new image of the Russian army and fleet, our national defense potential is being strengthened, "said the impressed head of state.

He stressed that "the requirement in such exercises is one - the Armed forces must demonstrate their readiness to protect Russian national interests, they must show that they are ready to give a decisive answer to any challenges and threats to Russia's national security."

“I know that all fighters and commanders act with full dedication and strive to show the result as excellent,” he noted. “I had the opportunity to observe how your combat work is going on - it makes an impression, especially against the background of how it changes situation". “The result you are showing deserves one assessment -“ excellent, ”Putin said.

Before presenting the awards, he noted that "among the awardees there are both experienced, well-deserved combat officers, and young servicemen." "Each of you adequately performs its military work, the meaning of which is to serve the Motherland," said the president.

Putin stressed that "the support of the army and navy has always been just such people, devoted to their duty, real professionals who know the true value of courage and dedication."

State awards from the hands of the president received 14 officers who distinguished themselves during the exercise. Five were awarded the Order for Military Merit, one for Maritime Merit, two with the Order of Merit for the Fatherland of the second degree, two with the Suvorov Medal, three with the Zhukov Medal and one with the Nesterov Medal.

50 airplanes and helicopters set about performing tasks

The aircraft of the Russian Air Force and the ships of the Caspian Flotilla began to perform tasks in the framework of the strategic command and staff exercises Kavkaz-2012.

According to ITAR-TASS with reference to the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, on the first day of the exercise, more than 50 airplanes and helicopters were involved in the air.

Army aviation crews on the Mi-35, Mi-28H and Mi-24 helicopters carried out a barrage on the identified enemy and cover the combat formations of the ground attack groups on Su-24M and Su-25M airplanes and reserves of the conditional opponent. Strategic, long-range bombers Tu-160, Tu-22М3, military transport aircraft Il-76, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles will be involved in the airspace of the training area.

This year, flight crews from almost all Air Force commands will be involved in the performance of combat training tasks. In total, the exercise will involve more than 120 units of various aircraft, including more 40 - Su-24 and Su-25, more 10 fighters Su-27 and MiG-29, over 50 helicopters, around 10 Tu-160, Tu-22МXNX , more than 3 IL-5MD.

At the same time, the ships of the Caspian Flotilla began to perform tasks as part of the exercises: they began to move from the basing stations in Astrakhan and Makhachkala to the area of ​​the exercise - the central part of the Caspian Sea.

The ship and coastal forces will have to complete a number of combat training missions at sea and on land ranges in the Republic of Dagestan and the Astrakhan Region.

In accordance with the plan, the ship groups of the Caspian Flotilla will practice practical actions to repel enemy air attacks with firing at air targets, launching missile and artillery strikes against a detachment of enemy warships. The exercise scenario envisages the landing of the marines and the conduct of defensive and offensive operations.

Much attention during the exercise will be given to working out questions on the action of the ships of the Caspian Flotilla and the Ball rocket complex when performing simultaneous rocket firing during naval combat and the destruction of ship groups and paratroopers of a conditional enemy.

In total, from the Caspian flotilla, up to a thousand military personnel, as well as Tatarstan and Dagestan rocket ships, landing craft, support vessels, to 2012 units of military and special equipment will take part in the Kavkaz-50 exercise.

Recall, the Kavkaz-2012 strategic command and staff exercise is taking place in the Southern Military District from 17 to 22 in September. In total, about 8 thousand people will be involved in the maneuvers, more than 200 combat vehicles, about 100 of various types of artiloriums, about the order of 10 warships and boats. The doctrine is the main final stage of the complex of trainings of the organs of military control of the RF Armed Forces in 2012.
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  1. spender
    +19
    18 September 2012 11: 07
    Here he discovered the truth, the more personnel officers ... smile The military then "keep the powder dry", but from Taburetkin we only see measures to break up the Army am and what kind of "unsinkable" he is ... I wish he could tell Putin about gunpowder wink
    By the way, for the education system in the Moscow Region, under the patronage of Taburetkin, a lady is engaged, who previously worked in the Tax Department on excise taxes on alcohol, is it cool? belay
    1. Odessa
      +6
      18 September 2012 11: 14
      spender,
      but from Taburetkin we see only measures for the collapse of the Army

      Maybe he has his own `` professional secrets '' on this, so that the wood does not dry out, he is loaded into the water. Maybe he thinks about gunpowder in the same way. wassat
    2. +8
      18 September 2012 11: 18
      Still ahead of +.! Greetings!
      In the photo, it was gratifying that the generals looked like people, they were dry and fit, though their faces were sad.

      And a fly in the ointment: yesterday he was talking with a comrade, they had just returned from a business trip (training of engineering troops in Volgograd, the comrade himself drove to the railway), they received information about the new Urals, the run says 14 000 is already flowing ... I won’t go into details, but he says it all the same in large numbers, after the exercises it is necessary to put the car on the capital, and you can’t tear off the seals, we are waiting for loading and sending it for repair, but for now 131 got old and old urals from the conservation, it’s impossible to compare different cars. Here is such infa, I just shared it first-hand, so to speak ... Maybe it’s just that I was not lucky with the party ...
      1. Trance
        +3
        18 September 2012 11: 44
        He noted that military service has always been honorable. "Even in the most difficult times, when you and I did not have such opportunities, as today, neither supply new equipment, nor social issues to solve as you deserve,there were always in the ranks of people who breast-defended the Fatherland. They did not whine, beg for nothing, and when necessary they got up and went into battle. People who are not afraid of anything believe in their Motherland and love it. I know that in this system such soldiers", - said Putin to the servicemen.

        Hello.
        I read these lines and am amazed at the hypocrisy. Recently, the news showed a veteran of the Great Patriotic War in Arkhangelsk, who asked to provide him with housing with a bathroom, since the person is already deeply elderly and is not able to wash in his bath. To him some scum from the bureaucrats says in response: - "Grandfather, why do you need an apartment! It's time for you not to wash, but to wipe yourself with a rag !!!"

        That's how we live.
        1. +3
          18 September 2012 12: 07
          Quote: Trance
          Hello.
          I read these lines and am amazed at the hypocrisy. Recently, the news showed a veteran of the Great Patriotic War in Arkhangelsk, who asked to provide him with housing with a bathroom, since the person is already deeply elderly and is not able to wash in his bath. To him some scum from the bureaucrats says in response: - "Grandfather, why do you need an apartment! It's time for you not to wash, but to wipe yourself with a rag !!!"

          That's how we live.


          You love to spoil everything everywhere. Any news.
          1. spender
            +5
            18 September 2012 12: 12
            Quote: Manager
            You love to spoil everything everywhere. Any news.

            Maxim, and what claims to it? He didn’t say these words to a veteran ... Unfortunately, the authorities only remember WWII veterans before May 9, and the rest of the time they are the same outcasts as the rest of the citizens, and there are not so many of them left, and every day getting smaller ... recourse
            1. +2
              18 September 2012 12: 17
              Quote: spender
              Maxim, and what claims to it? He didn’t say these words to a veteran ... Unfortunately, the authorities only remember WWII veterans before May 9, and the rest of the time they are the same outcasts as the rest of the citizens, and there are not so many of them left, and every day getting smaller ...


              I made no complaints. And just noticed a trend.
              Yes and more. I did not express my opinion, so I think the person who put a minus in the last comment is not far off.
              1. spender
                +5
                18 September 2012 12: 21
                Quote: Manager
                I made no complaints. And just noticed a trend.

                Well, you, too, sometimes "drifts" in impulses. I do not condemn, I rather envy the "white" envy.
                The minus jumped off by mistake, the comments "jumped", leveled with a plus. I do not consider myself far away, so let me be "not far" hi
                1. 0
                  18 September 2012 12: 25
                  Quote: spender
                  Well, you, too, sometimes "drifts" in impulses. I do not condemn, I rather envy the "white" envy.
                  The minus jumped off by mistake, the comments "jumped", leveled with a plus. I do not consider myself far away, so let me be "not far"


                  The question is removed) +
          2. Trance
            +5
            18 September 2012 12: 44
            Manager,You love to spoil everything everywhere. Any news.

            Manager, I gave a real life example against the backdrop of empty talk of GDP. The war is not far off, and then we will check the readiness of the army and the patriotism of youth. A future without a past is not built, any historian will confirm this to you. I gave an example of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, when our grandfathers performed heroic deeds, and now they put bureaucrats on them, and only 65 years have passed.
            1. +4
              18 September 2012 13: 44
              But did someone seriously take care of veterans once? What is the name of the national leader, in which the veterans skated like cheese in butter.
              1. spender
                +4
                18 September 2012 13: 53
                Quote: suomi
                What is the name of the national leader, in which the veterans skated like cheese in butter.

                Napoleon hi I will not say that "like cheese in butter", but they remembered and took care soldier
                1. +1
                  18 September 2012 14: 41
                  Quote: suomi
                  But did someone seriously take care of veterans once?

                  Quote: spender
                  Napoleon

                  I don’t know about Napoleon, but considering how the defeated veterans live in Germany and how the victors lived and some of them continue to live, you understand that some of our officials have no conscience.
        2. +3
          18 September 2012 13: 41
          Trance,
          And what is the contradiction and hypocrisy? Or do you read poorly? The fact that the veteran was so answered is of course ugliness, but Putin talked about something else. Maybe before you get done, do you need to carefully read the text?
        3. +4
          18 September 2012 15: 19
          And what does Putin have to do with it?
          if Putin had rights like Stalin’s, believe me, the country would have walked knee-deep in blood for a couple of years, disinfection from scum was long overdue, but now the time is not right.
      2. +2
        18 September 2012 11: 47
        There is no military acceptance at the factories, but never mind the factories. They will also tear off money for after-sales service.
    3. +4
      18 September 2012 12: 27
      At least once in the history of the USSR / RF were there moments when you could relax? I don’t remember something. GDP is just a captain of evidence.
      It would be better if he gave the military the opportunity to independently choose equipment, well, and the minister to the heap of normal.
      1. nickname 1 and 2
        +2
        18 September 2012 16: 40
        lelikas,

        And what about the GDP from what kind of "happiness" - what was it? took it and let's break it?

        I once read the answer of the Marshal = Yes! I was the most violent critic! But when those transformations were shown to me in full, I gave up and believe that even if not completely done, the army will
        truly human saving! (I'm sorry if I strongly distorted)
        I believed this marshal! And I hope that comes true! Yes

        Please forgive, if not in vain! I'm just a border guard! stop
        But the true military experts - always ready to listen, and, in this case, about this doctrine!
    4. Yarbay
      +5
      18 September 2012 13: 56
      Quote: spender
      Here he discovered the truth, the more personnel officers.

      Hi Aleksey!!
      It seems to me that this message was more for external consumption than for staff officers !!
  2. +3
    18 September 2012 11: 12
    It would be more and more often such teachings !!!!!!

    Let the whole world know what will happen to the enemy, think about it to attack. We not only have dry gunpowder, but also have a professional army !!!
    1. +3
      18 September 2012 11: 38
      Quote: JonnyT
      It would be more and more often such teachings !!!!!!


      Association with the slogan: more goods are good and different. laughing
    2. +3
      18 September 2012 11: 43
      Quote: JonnyT
      It would be more and more often such teachings !!!!!!


      I agree with you. But I would like to add that it is necessary to learn not only to "crush" the enemy, but also to retreat and learn and be able to.
      1. Sergh
        +1
        18 September 2012 12: 29
        Quote: Tsim
        I would like to add that it is necessary to learn not only to "crush" the enemy

        Yeah, here the Georgians tensed about it:

        ...
        Georgia’s concern about the military exercises conducted by Russia can be explained both by the experience of Georgia in 2008 and the statements made in connection with the exercises, Georgian Deputy Foreign Minister Nino Kalandadze said in an interview with the BBC.

        "Many times, mutually exclusive assessments and statements have been made by senior Russian officials regarding which military bases will be included in these exercises," Kalandadze says.

        According to her, as a result of pressure from the international community, it was initially said that the base in Gyumri existing in Armenia will not take part in the exercises, nor will the breakaway areas from Georgia be included in the exercises.

        “Today the reality is that the Russian base in Gyumri on the territory of Armenia is taking part in the usual way - the name has simply changed. But we know that almost the entire base has been brought to the training ground; just as we know that the exercises are being held in the occupied territories of Georgia ", - says Kalandadze.

        According to Kalandadze, today Georgia does not expect new aggression, but the country should be careful and maximize the attention of the international community, given that the exercises coincided with the pre-election period in Georgia.

        ...
        According to political analyst Niki Chitadze, Russia today has changed its tactics regarding Georgia, unlike 2008.

        "Prior to that, Russia supported separatism on the territory of Georgia and carried out indirect aggression. After that, it invaded Georgia and carried out direct aggression, but failed to occupy the entire territory of Georgia and change the country's foreign policy orientation, - says Chitadze. "Accordingly, Russia will continue its actions in a different direction - it will support destabilization in Georgia."

        However, Paata Zakareishvili, a conflict expert and member of the Republican Party, believes that the statements of the Georgian leadership about the threat of Russian exercises to the elections in Georgia are largely unconvincing.

        "If Russian exercises really pose such a serious threat, Saakashvili could call elections at the end of October, and not on the first day of October," Zakareishvili said in an interview with the BBC.
        September 18, 2012 "Caucasus-2012" - a new threat to Georgia?

        Yes, uh-sh, "orientation" is of primary concern, but the West will say to change to "blue", they will change without further ado.
    3. +2
      18 September 2012 12: 23
      Putin’s teachings impressed: he rated them excellent

      Before the exercises, the soldiers had already done all this 100, trained before Putin arrived, so this is just stupid window dressing.
      1. +2
        18 September 2012 13: 46
        And what should they paint the grass before Putin's arrival? Trained, skills fixed, something left in the brain. Is that bad?
        1. +3
          18 September 2012 14: 05
          Swap the groups and see how they consolidate, from the fact that Sylvester Stalone once memorized the role in the Rambo film and brought all the movements in the film to automatism, he became a super duper warrior or something? It is necessary to train soldiers in parts, and at such events to release them and watch how they were taught, that’s the purpose of this event, and not stupid memorization like-dropped off the ship-ran to that bush-fell-lie down. In a real battle, a soldier will think how to do it if they haven’t been given any skills at all, the terrain is different and everything, the soldier is lost, this whole nonsense is just for show and nothing more, all these exercises are crap. A month will pass and the soldiers will forget everything.
          1. BeTeP
            0
            18 September 2012 16: 36
            and where does the information about memorizing breaths and breaths come from? and even if this is so, it is still good, because VVP visited Toko on the first day, and the soldiers there will be delayed for another 5 days, and I just can't believe that they will run from one memorized bush to another. and about "forgotten in a month" is also not entirely clear where infa about the intensity of the exercises in individual parts? Now it's a long time to search, but it seems that the number of planned exercises for this year slipped somewhere and it was something like 300 ...
            1. 0
              18 September 2012 21: 41
              Son, you go to the army, look at everything with your own eyes and you will immediately understand how the check will come to your unit, so you will see everything, a forum participant who directly participates there told about the training. Here I will tell you the case from my service. The inspection had to come to us in part, to see how the soldiers live, what they are doing, along with the check, the journalists should have come to take a picture of everything. So, we have been training for a week, the authorities forced us to learn the route plan for which they will check, we were given new helmets, armor plates, someone was sent for firing, someone for theory. And you know what the funniest thing was that day? This is what I remember for a lifetime laughing we were told on the day of the inspection to sit stupidly in the cabinets and not get out from there, so that the authorities would not catch the eye, we are sitting, pretending to be obscene. we teach a part, and here zhurnalyugi fill up, well, and the instructor begins to fill them with the fact that we are teaching math. part of all weapons, including foreign ones, they make rambo out of us and, pointing to a large iron safe, tells the magazine, and we have secret weapons there, but we can’t show them to you unfortunately, I put noodles on their ears in short . But zhurnalyugi would have climbed into this safe and found out that the secret patterns in our army are mops and brooms with scoops laughing so you serve, well, or chat with the employees, they will also recall a lot of examples of window dressing wink
              1. BeTeP
                0
                19 September 2012 09: 36
                dear, I’m not my son ... and I know how they serve in the army, I won’t forget how one very good acquaintance in the exercises with a Photoshop shot down because it didn’t work out normally. but I’m not talking about this, but that when people are in the field, it’s always good, even if they memorized everything step by step - this, God forbid, of course, will help them anyway. Another conversation is if this, so to speak, one-time action, and here I just asked about the intensity of the exercises for a particular unit, because if earlier it was planned 2 and a half posushechek for a year, then now everything is changing ..
                ZY
                I agree that I already have the same attitude to the army as a pig to oranges - that's why I ask, not affirm. let's still respect each other, I can leave the show off too, but they won’t add facts and knowledge ..
        2. +3
          18 September 2012 14: 13
          + unequivocally: when the personnel train in advance and work out the order of actions, this is combat training and the exercises only reinforce our skills before the exercises, all crews checked the completeness of the stations in advance, laid out everything in the order that the deployment would take place and determined who and what would do and then during the exercises they showed exactly what we can for the result
      2. nickname 1 and 2
        0
        18 September 2012 16: 49
        Joker,

        And who will give them ??? It costs a lot of grandmas! Who will pay? They are
        Quote: Joker
        just stupid window dressing.
        so what, but how much it costs - I know for sure! Not a single oligarch will pay for such a rental! fool
        1. +1
          18 September 2012 21: 32
          This teaching is planned, the goal is to show the state of the army their readiness for the President, if there are shoals then heads will fly off the shoulders of the commanders, so the commanders are already training the troops ahead of time, that’s all, they don’t teach them practice, but it’s stupid to speak without exercises God, Putin looked and left pleased. Well, have you really not been in the army? Have you ever been visited by a unit?
      3. VAF
        VAF
        +1
        18 September 2012 22: 32
        Quote: Joker
        Before the exercises, the soldiers had already done all this 100, trained before Putin arrived, so this is just stupid window dressing.


        Here it is the TRUTH about military life and its "affairs", +!
        1. +1
          18 September 2012 22: 50
          It seems to me that if there is a war, then, as usual, the negligence of the leadership will be washed away by the blood of our soldiers, this was the case in the 1-th World, 2-th, Chechen campaign, when our own bureaucrats sold their beards, it was so in Afghanistan, it was so in Ossetia, when the president was stupid to the last and the soldiers had no connection or anything, thanks to the contract soldiers, they pulled him out, though now they are fewer and fewer in the army, the generals from that war were no longer there, either they left or were fired. There were only Khersov’s merchants, and warriors who already had a blood war would not raise their salaries and they would probably leave. I am more and more inclined to believe that this whole reform is nothing more than a giant cut, following the example of the United States, it’s convenient, it seems that they are doing something and the larger the project, the more you can snooze, and all this opposition, just a planned action of our government, so that the people I was thinking about the enemy, and not about what was going on in the country, here they are already playing in the swamp. While we wait for the war, they are quietly sawing the country.
          1. +1
            19 September 2012 00: 45
            so that everything falls into place let's say so, the practice is when, with live ammunition on a live target, the rest of the USSR’s studies and window dressings were enough for practical exercises throughout the world from Afghanistan to Nicaragua, then the army and, first and foremost, the officers had combat experience
            1. BeTeP
              0
              19 September 2012 09: 50
              Yes, even in Soviet times it was considered normal to memorize everything step by step before exercises and even cheating was welcomed - read Zagortseva - she writes very interestingly about this, and even without "practical lessons" it is very easy to assess combat readiness by the behavior of "older comrades", and she was, of course, not like today's, but always finding fault with it is still not true - if there are positive shifts, they need to be developed (and REGULAR teachings are always GOOD), and not dismiss with the words that in our time we were locked so as not to stick out, and the journalists are mops showed - we will live in the past - we will not see the future.
              1. 0
                19 September 2012 13: 05
                “One who does not know his past has no future” must learn from mistakes, the Moscow Region does not understand this.
  3. +17
    18 September 2012 11: 12
    Assessing the international situation, Putin called on the military to "keep the powder dry."
    In turn, a minister of defense type turned to the NHS with a request to explain what gunpowder is and why it needs to be kept dry.
    1. +3
      18 September 2012 11: 25
      Quote: vorobey
      In turn, a minister of defense type turned to the NHS with a request to explain what gunpowder is and why it needs to be kept dry.


      good
    2. +2
      18 September 2012 12: 45
      ... NGSH ordered the delivery of dry powder for demonstration to the type of the Minister of Defense, but there was no gunpowder available. "Everything has already been stolen before us," the warehouse manager whispered softly.
    3. Yarbay
      +4
      18 September 2012 13: 58
      Quote: vorobey
      In turn, a minister of defense type turned to the NHS with a request to explain what gunpowder is and why it needs to be kept dry.

      And in general, what can this powder be changed for?))))
  4. with
    +4
    18 September 2012 11: 14
    News or duck?
    Ministry of Energy proposed to pump up to 15 million tons of oil into underground storage facilities

    Russia is going to create a strategic oil reserve. According to this plan, up to 15 million tons of oil will be pumped into underground storage facilities (for example, salt mines).
    The new "gold reserve", according to the Ministry of Energy, is needed by Russia in order to secure the national economy.
    1. spender
      +5
      18 September 2012 11: 16
      Quote: met
      News or duck?

      It’s strange in the United States that they simply preserve oil production and all, why pump it? belay
      1. with
        +2
        18 September 2012 11: 20
        Quote: spender
        It’s strange in the United States that they simply preserve oil production and all, why pump it?


        Oil reserves are mainly created by oil importing countries. The International Energy Agency requires such countries to have an "emergency" supply of fuel for 90 days. The USA, Germany and France have such a reserve. America spends about $ 2 per tonne per year to maintain its oil reserves. Thus, Russia will spend about 30 million.

        A rollback? bully
        1. spender
          +5
          18 September 2012 11: 22
          Quote: met
          A rollback?

          Forgot laughing + mastering the budget for equipment and pumping, and this is taking into account the "shrinkage, shrinkage" wink
      2. +1
        18 September 2012 11: 22
        Well, if you don’t process it, then there really is no reason, only if the geographical location is closer to the refineries, although the brand is still not made in Russia, and we mainly buy gasoline in the west ....
      3. +2
        18 September 2012 11: 33
        It’s strange in the United States that they simply preserve oil production and all, why pump it?

        Now, count up, gouging the whole structure near the tower, and the oil is not a hundred meters and not 500 underground, and so I put the pump and pump it (I certainly exaggerate, but still).
  5. in reserve
    +2
    18 September 2012 11: 31
    “You are perfectly prepared, you are all competent people, you see what is happening in the world, you see how, unfortunately, the use of force is growing in international affairs. All of this suggests that we must keep our powder dry, we must increase Russia's defense capability” , - declared Putin.

    Putin seems to be a sane president, and he seems to raise the patriotic spirit of the senior officers. But at the same time, they make a "foreign legion" out of the army, but do foreigners have an incentive to be patriots of Russia?
    1. -1
      18 September 2012 13: 50
      in reserve, Are you talking about now?
      1. in reserve
        0
        18 September 2012 21: 28
        suomi
        in stock, are you talking about now?

        This is me about the fact that any citizen of the world can now serve in our army. But don’t you know, I served 5 years and now you have Russian citizenship, everything is legal.
  6. +1
    18 September 2012 11: 36
    Yes, Putin often pronounces winged words)
  7. +1
    18 September 2012 11: 37
    show must go on, as they say, it was necessary to have caviar and a cold pile to the table and an oil painting ...... "planes are flying in the sky, people are in a hurry on business" ...... also go with a hat to the electorate something whether, then you can push beautiful speeches about dry powder
  8. +2
    18 September 2012 11: 41
    Quote: klimpopov
    , and we mainly buy gasoline in the west ....

    I do not believe.
  9. +2
    18 September 2012 11: 48
    The dog barks, and the caravan goes on. Let Western sneakers accuse of hysteria of militarism, but doctrine is needed!
  10. +2
    18 September 2012 12: 04
    Nice jacket on Makarov, with a hood. On dismissal, I also received a set of numbers (winter + summer). Nearby is such shit. I went to the market, I wanted to turn in to hucksters for 3 thousand rubles. They say: give a thousand. Nobody buys a type
  11. Nechai
    +3
    18 September 2012 12: 08
    Quote: vorobey
    In turn, a minister of defense type turned to the NHS with a request to explain what gunpowder is and why it needs to be kept dry.

    I will continue, Sasha, with your permission: ... And isn't it better to purchase "this notorious dry powder" from European business partners. They will deliver everything themselves, on time, beautifully packaged and prepackaged, directly to all objects and PPD. Outsourcing needs to be developed both in breadth and in depth ...
    1. +3
      18 September 2012 13: 52
      NechaiAnd isn't it better to purchase "this notorious dry powder" from European business partners. They will deliver everything themselves, on time, beautifully packaged and prepackaged, directly to all objects and PPD. Outsourcing needs to be developed both in breadth and in depth ...

      Well, yes, especially when we fight with them, they will deliver everything to us.
  12. Che
    Che
    +1
    18 September 2012 12: 24
    +++ Good news. More likely to raise the military industry. Then the general people will not get us. And the whole economy too.
    1. with
      0
      18 September 2012 21: 26
      Quote: Che
      Then human beings cannot reach us

      Well, you are bent!
      They will blather, blather and blather, even though they give black caviar for free to every citizen, every day!



      An example about caviar, but it has nothing to do with the opposition!
  13. +1
    18 September 2012 12: 32
    Putin is preparing "the second stage of the conquest of Georgia", the Estonian Defense Minister decided

    Why cook something, then they could capture everything, do we need the current, then feed them?
  14. 0
    18 September 2012 12: 49

    And here are the first videos
  15. Cat23
    +3
    18 September 2012 13: 23
    Yes, our elite loves to rush with beautiful words! Listen, it turns out that those who served without wages for several months, who lived in DOSA supported by logs so as not to fall apart, who restored the equipment with a hammer, chisel and some kind of mother - "HEROES". And in the opinion of TABURETKIN, all the officers who served before his leadership of the Ministry of Defense are rubbish, and it is necessary to write a code (maybe I am mistaken and have already written) a Russian officer and with the help of this code to get rid of all the traditions that have developed over the years from the Armed Forces. Former military personnel have become trash, hindering reforms and costing themselves. And therefore, the pension is 54 percent and free. And this awaits any person in uniform. And now noodles can be hung, those who serve, for an increase in pay, do not see what awaits them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. 0
      18 September 2012 13: 58
      Stop whining already. Or are you against the fact that those who serve normal money paid? Previously, they were not paid. And the fact that there is not enough money for pensioners ... How many children do you have?
      1. Cat23
        +2
        18 September 2012 14: 28
        This is not a nagging, but a statement of fact. And I am not against the money being paid by active servicemen, but against the fact that people are thrown away as waste material and deprived of their right to a normal life in retirement, and not a struggle for survival. Moreover, the main part is leaving with undermined health. Or do you think that this is normal and the explanation is not enough money, should satisfy and humble military pensioners. And enough for deputies. And what have the children to do with it? And what do you yourself have to do with retirement age?
    2. +1
      18 September 2012 14: 17
      here's what's interesting: Georgia is straining again, and in the Caspian, not a single country even moved because our fleet went to the central part
  16. Nechai
    +1
    18 September 2012 15: 30
    Quote: suomi
    Well, yes, especially when we fight with them, they will deliver everything to us.

    Otozh. What I’m talking about. Recently we discussed the adoption of fuel refueling on Iveco, so also do not pamper the FIGs, they will all go away to one of Komers. You give fuel supply outsourcing! How much easier and more profitable - I concluded an agreement with TNK-BP, for example. They will fill you up. Only tell me where, when, how much and what kind of equipment you will have. Well, if you are planning an offensive, then through offshore companies arrange payment to the territory of the enemy. Yeah, drop the warranty letter, again, having painted where, when, why and how much. Bring the system to its logical conclusion.
    -The junior officers are not familiar with who, from whom and how.
    - comrades dress, shoe, feed, wash l / s. Service and repair equipment.
    -wounded - either call an ambulance or pickup, which is most likely. In the CRH, city, regional clinics. In those where the payment went, again. Yes, and be sure to provide a passport and a social insurance card for the wounded to provide, otherwise problems with acceptance will necessarily arise.
    But in general, what a fig for our elite to bother with these aircraft?!?!?! PMCs are the most optimized option. Not any smut ... I gave them my desire and they rustle. - "Reign, lying on your side!" Well, until your PMCs are bought by another ...
  17. +1
    18 September 2012 20: 17
    Yes, the teachings are beautiful, but in reality the preparation for them is a complete "F".
  18. 0
    19 September 2012 05: 46
    The situation is indeed more than serious and the call to "keep the powder dry" is quite timely. The question is if there is enough gunpowder in the flasks, is it too stale, and whether the archers will not fill it in the "gun" from the wrong end, as it often happened before. After all, it may so happen that it will be necessary to "bump" not in 15 20 years, but much earlier. Therefore, it is necessary to turn on the afterburner and do everything that cannot be done without quickly. Those. more realism and less indifference.
  19. 0
    19 September 2012 06: 11
    Quote: klimpopov
    In the photo, it was gratifying that the generals looked like people, they were dry and fit, though their faces were sad.

    It seems that:
    1. Makarov - "Well, this way, or this way, or something else ....".
    2. Putin - "Che is the smartest, what are you talking about ...".
    3. General in the center - "Don't ... Showdown without me, I'm not in business ....".

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