Ordinary citizens of Eastern Europe do not want the United States to involve their countries in a possible military conflict over Ukraine

At 18:00 Moscow time, talks between Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden are scheduled in the format of a video conference. One of the main topics that the leaders of the two states are going to discuss will be the topic of Ukraine. Even before the official start of negotiations, the press, experts and ordinary citizens of foreign countries come up with their forecasts of the course and possible outcome of the negotiations.

Particular attention to the negotiations is riveted in the countries of Eastern Europe. The reason is that for the countries of this region, the issue of relations between the United States and Russia against the background of what is happening in Ukraine is extremely important - quite existential. The countries of Eastern Europe, which previously became members of NATO, today fear that they may be drawn into an armed conflict in Ukraine. "Saves" is the article of the charter of the alliance, which does not require NATO members to participate in wars unfolding on the territory of third countries. But the Eastern European NATO members are worried by the fact that, in principle, this article has never stopped the hottest heads in the military bloc.

In the Bulgarian edition of Facts, the authors reflect on what “red lines” Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden are going to indicate to each other, what opportunities are available to avoid a military confrontation over Ukraine.

Readers of the Bulgarian press are afraid of what was discussed above - the involvement of Bulgaria in an armed conflict over Ukraine. The citizens of Slovakia, Hungary, the Czech Republic, members of the NATO bloc, fear the same.

Comments from Bulgarian readers:

The United States is an evil empire that is crumbling. The disintegration processes of the neoliberal capitalist West are obvious. I hope that there are countries that will only speed them up.

The United States succeeded in conquering the USSR - with a dollar and without a war.

There is a "small" problem for the United States. Russia today is not what it was under Yeltsin. Yes, the world today as a whole is radically different.

The main thing is that Biden does not fall asleep during the videoconference.

Ordinary citizens of Hungary and Slovakia make it clear that they do not want the United States to be drawn into an armed conflict in Ukraine.

Comments

[Murmur 55]

And who will ask these citizens or be interested in their opinion ??? The new HEAD said drag nach osten, please, take it under his cap, and how you wanted to "be friends" with Washington!

[pytar]

And who will ask these citizens or be interested in their opinion?

And they ask and are interested in their opinion! Especially on important issues! Otherwise, the power will fly out! In the best case, you can submit yourself to leave! Our people, if something comes out and forces those who do not understand.

[Murmur 55]

Themselves then believe in it democratic you are ours ?!

[pytar]

Themselves then believe in it democratic you are ours ?!

Since I am a man of age, lived in two different types of society, my opinion is not based on faith, but on experience!

[Murmur 55]

That's good, it means that sane people will win over you and you will not follow the orders of your leadership if they go against your point of view and your like-minded people.

[pytar]

This is unambiguous! But I am sure that if the authorities allow themselves this, as a result they will not stay in their posts for long. Yes, and there are a lot of sane.

[SKIF555]

Oh, whether! You will merge for Euro - as before! Regarding the Bulgarian stream, you have already been shown! Dostoevsky was right! And history!

[pytar]

The Bulgarian stream works very well and is profitable! You are clearly not in the know. And EURO is a good thing, people in Russia love it very much! I tried it personally, they take it with enthusiasm!

[SKIF555]

Well, you know better! For us, that the Turkish Bulgarians or the Bulgarian Turks are all the same. At least for the euro, at least for the lira.

[pytar]

For us, that the Turkish Bulgarians or the Bulgarian Turks are all the same. At least for the euro, at least for the lira.

I know I know... they willingly take any kind of currency from you, especially the "hated" $!

[SKIF555]

Oxtis "native"! I don't even remember how they look and when I held them in my hands. The only problem is with Kazakh friends - they count everything through the dollar.

[pytar]

I don't even remember how they look and when I held them in my hands.

You better keep an eye on the rubles in your pocket ... or even lose them from them, from these oligarchs of yours ...

[Alex777]

And here is the news about the wonderful oligarch Musk:

The American billionaire, the head of SpaceX and the founder of Tesla, Elon Musk, is thinking about changing jobs. He wrote about this on his Twitter account.
«I am considering quitting my job and becoming a full-time blogger. What do you think? ”Musk said on the social network.
Earlier it was reported that Elon Musk got rid of all his real estate, which he owned. Moreover, he sold the latter a villa in Hillsborough, which he did not want to part with for a long time. The property was valued at $ 32 million.

Preparing for bankruptcy that he sold everything?
How many people will get hurt when Musk "quits his job"?

[pytar]

I sold all my properties to finance my dream - a flight to Mars! Not buying yachts for himself and not gold toilets! Musk is an amazing Personality! Can it go bankrupt? Maybe! In a market economy, there is such a risk for everyone! I hope nothing critical will happen to him and we will see astronauts on Mars! Whatever it is, Musk has already made the Revolution, respect to them! He is a great Man!

[Alex777]

Quote: pytar

I sold all my properties to finance my dream - a flight to Mars!

Have you thought before writing this pearl?
I’m sure not.
First, tell me - how much money do you need to fly to Mars?
Do you position yourself as a major leader?
So you can figure out the order of the figures in the budget?
Then compare with those tens of millions from real estate sales. And don't make anyone laugh anymore.

Not buying yachts for himself and not gold toilets! Musk is an amazing Personality!

Your criteria for amazingness are impressive.

Quote: pytar

Whatever it is, Musk has already made the Revolution, respect to them! He is a great Man!

MMM Baltic investors started to suspect something!

The wife will explain everything to you if you did not immediately understand.

[pytar]

Have you thought before writing this pearl?

Always and in all cases in life! Try it too, it will be useful!

I’m sure not.

Ignorance more often than knowledge breeds confidence. / Ch.Darwin - "The origin of man and sexual selection" /

First, tell me - how much money do you need to fly to Mars?

First, think - how much money was needed for what Musk has already done? I remember from the very beginning, but until now the "experts" giggled - "he won't succeed!"

Then compare with those tens of millions from real estate sales. And don't make anyone laugh anymore.

"The founder of the space company SpaceX Elon Musk, who became the richest man in the world, decided to sell all his property for the sake of colonizing Mars."
Where and who says that only money from the sale of the property will be used? Against the background of general expenses, this is not much, but enough for something in the general purpose.

Your criteria for amazingness are impressive.

"As the businessman said, his planned construction of a city on Mars will require significant investments. According to him, this is one of the reasons that can force him to part with his property. Another reason, as Musk noted, is the desire to show the world how determined he is," when it comes to colonizing Mars. "
Yes! Indeed, Musk is amazing!

MMM Baltic investors started to suspect something!

Nobody give a 100% or even 50% guarantee for success! It is extremely risky, but worth a try! Musk puts his all on the chair! Fail, lose everything, have time, it will be one of the greatest successes in the history of mankind! Moreover, very serious, experienced investors put money into his projects!

The wife will explain everything to you if you did not immediately understand.

The wife says more and more often that she is ashamed of / part of / her sonar monitors.

[Alex777]

Quote: pytar

"The founder of the space company SpaceX Elon Musk, who became the richest man in the world, decided to sell all his property for the sake of the Colonization of Mars."
Where and who says that only money from the sale of the property will be used? Against the background of general expenses, this is not much, but enough for something in the general purpose.

In the financial market, what Musk does is simply called "blowing the bubble."
For "naive Albanians" to bring money.
Of course, this money will not be enough for the flight to Mars, the organization of the colony, the maintenance of its resources from the Earth and everything else that is required before the flight takes place.
And the Mask and those who follow him will be fine.

Moreover, very serious, experienced investors put money into his projects!

Make me laugh constantly. Continue on.
Ever heard of Bernard Madoff?

Ignorance more often than knowledge breeds confidence. / Ch.Darwin - "The origin of man and sexual selection" /

Reread it often. It's good for you.

[pytar]

In the financial market, what Musk does is simply called "blowing the bubble." For "naive Albanians" to bring money.

He's not spending your money, why are you so worried?

Of course, this money will not be enough for the flight to Mars, the organization of the colony, the maintenance of its resources from the Earth and everything else that is required before the flight takes place. And the Mask and those who follow him will be fine.

Musk like Christopher Columbus, Vasco da Gama, etc. Ego role to start, go ahead! After him, others will be pulled. Even if he doesn't have time. It will be cool, very cool if Musk has time! God forbid!

Reread it often. It's good for you.

While some do things, others envy and deny ... For the first time they call the continent, seas, mountains, one day on Mars, the cities will be called by the name of Elon Musk! And about that second category of little people, no one will remember.

[Alex777]

Quote: pytar

He's not spending your money, why are you so worried?

I don’t worry at all. Robert Burns said long ago:

I shake hands with eccentrics with both hands,
How much, in fact, we owe them,
Whenever there were other eccentrics,
Then we would have to be eccentrics ourselves.

Musk as Christopher Columbus, Vasco da Gama, etc.

You are not so blinkered as not to understand - all of the listed were not looking for America (they flew to Mars), but sailed to India for money (because of money, and Musk inflates his bubble ).

And about that second category of little people, no one will remember.

You are right about MMM investors - no one remembers them.

[Ryaruav]

boyan, you are lucky as long as there are no strategic NATO facilities on your land, but your neighbors the Romanians will fly very much, just like the noble beggars from great Poland from May to May

[pytar]

I'm skeptical about the likelihood of a third world. Nothing will stick, there will be no war. Well, propaganda will yell this, hurray-patriots will make faces, "oh, how we brabakh," and that's all ... This is for internal consumption, because when there is nothing to feed the people with, they are fed from "external threats." And we generally have no propaganda for war.

[Ryaruav]

you know the boyan, everything goes to this and with leaps and bounds, we could not defend socialism (with what flaws it would not be, I think it was not bad for you) no not jeans chewing gum and cocacola reason and not clever ideology, you cannot impose the realities of the late 19th century by the end of the 20th century

[pytar]

everything goes to this and by leaps and bounds

Are you talking about the war? There will be no war! Wager for a box of wine or vodka!
All this hype is supposedly "the enemy is at the gate", "caliber", "poseidons", "hyperuper28mah"intended for domestic consumption. Well, so that the people do not notice how the oligarchy protects from their pockets. No NATA will attack you. It is, and so the richest natural resources go into the hands of the right uncles ...

[_simply]

War is what our "exclusive" partners are talking about. Like, you have no right "to move equipment from place to place, because this causes us wild concern, turning into an itch ..." move ". True, true: where we want, we move there; wherever we want, we put rockets there. Why are they so preoccupied with this? After all, they realize that there is no threat (except for the geopolitical one). True, there are no reasons for Russia's concern. What are these "teasers" for by partners? To stimulate their henchmen geopolitical jackals? Or to maintain your own PSI at the proper level? They play with fire. Of course, NATO will not lead its soldiers to the slaughter. They will not sacrifice for the sake of the Baltics or Ukraine ... Cases are being played out. In particular, Ukrainian. For what? Naturally for PR. The long-awaited project "Euro Force" is not far off. NATO is unwilling to put up with this. So it is spinning to somehow define the agenda. There is no ideological enemy. And here, for the old woman of Europe, a second youth is approaching. And, of course, money ... The image of the enemy works well for the military-industrial complex lobbyists. So, a global war is not expected. Time is expensive, crisis. There is a lot to lose. Although, you can make money on everything. If you can.

[pytar]

War is what our "exclusive" partners are talking about.

This is not entirely true. I watch the media from both sides. In Russian propaganda, the war is off the charts! Something outrageous!

To this one simple man answered them: "Our territory, you understand ... We move where we want." True, true: where we want, we move there; wherever we want, we put rockets there.

The same simple person, you should refer your concepts to other countries. The territory of NATO, where they want there and move! Wherever they want, they put rockets there! Right?

After all, they realize that there is no threat (except for the geopolitical one).

All participants in geopolitics understand. Here is the question of dough, a lot of dough, and also propaganda, because you have to put together a society to distract him from pressing problems. In Russia, these problems have not been solved for dozens of years! And here the "external enemy" is very appropriate! It looks like a common conspiracy of the rulers of the world!

The long-awaited project "Euro Force" is not far off.

For me this is a badly needed project! But he does not suit the United States, they will interfere with all their might.

The image of the enemy works well for the military-industrial complex lobbyists.

And on the oligarchic conglomerate who plundered the wealth of Russia!

So, a global war is not expected. Time is expensive, crisis. There is a lot to lose. Although, you can make money on everything. If you can.

With this judgment, I completely agree! This is true!

[_simply]

Quote: pytar

The image of the enemy works well for the military-industrial complex lobbyists.

And on the oligarchic conglomerate who plundered the wealth of Russia!

So after all, so many non-Russian ... American to a greater extent.
NATO assured us that they would not expand. But, everything happened according to the principle of a stopping locomotive. The process continues. Do we have the right to be worried. Quite.
By the way, it may well be that the rules of the game are being discussed behind closed doors.

[pytar]

So after all, so many non-Russian ... American to a greater extent.

According to various data that I found in the American media, Russia is mentioned extremely rarely, on average in 2% of publications, the largest number that I found is 4%! Of these 2-4%, material about Russian politics is only 27%. That is, there is an insignificant amount, several times less than the topics about China!
And how many times the United States and the West are mentioned in the Russian media, you can see for yourself! And all in a typically negative propaganda form! This gives an idea of ​​where, how and against whom the population is being processed!

NATO assured us that they would not expand.

This is one of the bikes of the ru-media. In itself, hardening is not serious, such a super important question does not fizzle out for a cup of beer. In fact, Russia was also going to join NATO, which is why it did not require any written agreements. There was a disagreement about the location of the NATO obyekty in Vost. Germany, and NATO has observed it to this day.

But, everything happened according to the principle of a stopping locomotive. The process continues.

The sovereign right of each country to enter into whatever union wants! Nobody forbids you from admitting new members to the CSTO! Right?

Do we have the right to be worried. Quite.

I agree with you. You have the right, at least for some reason, until recently, they were not worried. There are statements by VVP since that time, I watch them periodically. In short, you were friends with Nat, very much even!

By the way, it may well be that the rules of the game are being discussed behind closed doors.

For me this is 120% true !!! We are given the picture they want, and what they agree on, we are unlikely to find out! I will paraphrase - Oligarchs of all countries unite!

[Ros 56]

Well, here you are, everyone was bursting into NATO, and now they don't want to fight. Here are the clever ones, someone owes them. It is clear that for Banderostan there are no people who want to rake them, but what about NATO's charter, the chief said, into battle, that means into battle.

[Andrey Grad]

Nobody asked these citizens, no referendums were held.
In Riga, not only among Russians, but also among Latvians, the majority was against joining NAT, the elite decided and signed everything.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrey Grad

In Riga, not only among Russians, but also among Latvians, the majority was against joining NAT, the elite decided and signed everything.

It was the same in Tallinn.

[alex neym_2]

And in Ukraine who is asked? Fictitious institutions conduct fictitious polls and give fictitious data to please those in power - paper, you know, will endure everything ... especially to the toilet!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleks neym_2

And in Ukraine who is asked?

They also don't ask anyone, the main thing is to put the right person.
Although if you believe the media, then 73% of the population of Ukraine voted for Zelensky.

[alex neym_2]

They voted against gunpowder, and before that there was a t / s about the teacher, who became President Goloborodko, starring Zelensky. So the people got carried away, they thought it would be like in a movie ... it turns out that this series is a FAR well-thought-out election program. Here's the case Petrovich, about ... the moderator ... deceived !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleks neym_2

They voted against gunpowder, and before that there was a t / s about the teacher, who became President Goloborodko, starring Zelensky. So the people got carried away, they thought it would be like in a movie ... it turns out that this series is a FAR well-thought-out election program.

Yes, I immediately told my Gaster (they are also against gunpowder) - "You are just bred like suckers." Zelya was right here - "I'm not a sucker!" Then one from Dnepropetrovsk said "If it were not for the film, I voted for the other."
But this election campaign, and even with the series, is what the State Department has invested in money.

[alex neym_2]

In my opinion, the State Department has nothing to do with it: this is an investment of money by one uncle who has three passports, which are not prohibited by the number, and not two, which are prohibited ... Kolomoisky, that's the whole answer.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleks neym_2

Kolomoisky, that's the whole answer.

Does Kolomoisky act without a "roof"?

[alex neym_2]

Then there is no desire to go into the garbage bucket - you will get into politics, you will not know what it will stink for a hundred miles, but someone really likes this "aroma" for some reason, not understandable ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aleks neym_2

Then there is no desire to climb into the garbage can - you will get into politics

I think so too, you need to keep silent at the right time.

[Ros 56]

Are you serious? You have apparently forgotten what events preceded the emergence of the current authorities, that of the Tribals, that of our other former, with the exception of Belarus. And Latvians even from Canada president (new trends ) arrived. So it was you who chose them, and they have already led you to where you are. And the former fascists were raised out of the mud.

[2 Level Advisor]

NATa can call everyone into battle only when attacking a member of the alliance .. what does Ukraine have to do with it? so, according to the charter, their boss cannot say that ...

[Denis812]

NATO cannot call anyone anywhere.
In the event of an attack on one NATO member, the rest of the Alliance will regard this act of violence as an armed attack on all NATO countries and take action as they deem necessary to help the attacked NATO country
That is, even if Ukraine becomes a NATO member tomorrow and the evil bloody Mordor attacks it, the light elves of the West may well get by with "deep concerns."
Nowhere is it said that in the event of such an aggression, the all-powerful armored fist of Lithuania will undeniably attack the 18th Guards Rifle Division :)
It was even described by Clancy in "Storm" - they say the evil USSR attacked the sleeping cities of Europe, and some NATO member states simply expressed concern. Even in my opinion, not very deep.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

NATa can call everyone into battle only when attacking a member of the alliance .. what does Ukraine have to do with it?

That is why many do not want Ukraine in NATA.
On Saturday there was an incident at the bus station, there is a stall on the landing site, and right at it one gaster is making a "small", right in front of the people. And suddenly one local was indignant - "And the kurat want it, so that we would go to fight for such people!"

[pytar]

but what about NATO's charter, the chief said into battle, then into battle

Well, you probably confuse with the Department of Internal Affairs.

[Ros 56]

Well, you are no stranger to, you have long gone under the striped ones.

[pytar]

Well, you are no stranger to, you have long gone under the striped ones.

Serrious ...? And you? "Get up off your knees," huh? Ie, too, went to bed, but now, you are definitely getting up, right? Confident?

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

Serrious ...?

No, this is a joke, it was especially funny when Bulgaria abandoned South Stream. A bold and strong-willed decision of a strong country.

[pytar]

it was especially funny when Bulgaria abandoned South Stream

One of the most ridiculous tezzah propaganda for a big country ... Speaking in the first person, I have been working on a project from the Bulgarian side for 4 years. I asked many opponents if they could provide at least one proof, a document confirming that "Bulgaria refused from South Stream "? None of them could! At that time, with two clicks on the keyboard we reach a public statement, not by anyone, but by the GDP itself, that the Russian Federation refuses from UP!

[suhorukofal]

Learn to click, found in one click
"This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. According to him, Russia cannot continue the construction of the gas pipeline without the permission of Bulgaria."

[pytar]

Learn to click, found in one click: "This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. According to him, Russia cannot continue construction of the gas pipeline without the permission of Bulgaria."

And you, in addition to clicking, will learn to read the entire text, or even better, look for a video where you can listen to Putin's statements in general! In addition to what you have said, Vl. During his visit to Turkey, Putin said that "Russia in the current conditions cannot continue the implementation of the South Stream project, including because of the non-constructive position of the European Union. ".
Bulgaria has never refused, there is not a single such declaration or document! It's much easier! Every project on the territory of the EU must comply with EU laws! Bulgaria is the territory of the EU! The Russian Federation has its own laws, and there no one can build something according to other laws! The UP did not match, the Balkan Stream was built in its place! It fits, works, makes a profit. That's how it is ...

[suhorukofal]

In particular, words about the toothless position of the Bulgarian leadership, which neglects national interests. An ordinary song, Russia is to blame for everything, even when the leadership itself harms its country. And yes, all of this is publicly available and easy to find. I see no reason to talk to such people, sheer hypocrisy.

[pytar]

Very interesting video! By the way, I watched it a long time ago! Putin's press conference on South Stream on 17.12.2015/01.12.2014/XNUMX, this is almost a year after he himself renounced South Stream in a public statement (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)! Your video is interesting because he cares very much about the national interests of Bulgaria! Apparently he confuses them with the interests of Gazprom! Speaking of "profit", the GDP for some reason forgets to calculate those colossal losses, in view of the sanctions, the EC fine, which not only nullified the entire project, but would also lead to the bankruptcy of Bulgaria, and Gazprom would be shattered great! On my own I will add - you cannot climb from your Gazprom charter into someone else's monastery / EU /! It's all the same if someone from a foreign country builds a road in Russia for himself and only for himself! Do not let others on it, only he, his transport! It’s impossible, Russian laws do not allow, but for some reason the GDP requires this on the territory of the EU!

I see no reason to talk to such people, sheer hypocrisy.

I will refrain from characterizing what Putin said, for reasons of adherence to the rules of the site.

[suhorukofal]

For sim I take my leave, not a single comment on the topic justifying my point of view. I see no point in communicating with such an interlocutor. All the best!

[pytar]

For sim I take my leave, not a single comment on the topic justifying my point of view. I see no point in communicating with such an interlocutor. All the best!

Deserted before the inexorable facts! Okay, and so it will do ... And all the best to you!

[Ros 56]

We, yes, we are sure, that is why they reckon with us in contrast to you. And you are not sure, therefore they give you a kick, then the South Stream is not built, then do not develop production. So don't la-la.

[pytar]

We, yes, we are sure, that is why they reckon with us in contrast to you.

Yuri, in your big country, a small man! Power does not count from him at all! Therefore, the authorities do whatever they want! And in our country, if the government gets puffed up, we drive it out and change it! So she, though, not though, counts with us!

And you are not sure, therefore they give you a kick, then the South Stream is not built, then do not develop production. So don't la-la.

La-la in the style of nightingale-kiselev-skabeev! You should trust these propagandists less, they will not tell you anything true!

[Ros 56]

And in our country, if the authorities are arrogant, we drive them out and change them!

As I understand it, to hell to change only time to waste. Have you ever heard such a saying?

[pytar]

As I understand it, to hell to change only time to waste. Have you ever heard such a saying?

We have a similar saying. If you have the same crap everywhere, then of course there is no point in changing it. And this is the logical opinion of a citizen in whose country it is so.
And we have all sorts of things, the political competition is fierce! Where there is competition, the people always have the opportunity to choose and change situations! But you are unlikely to understand what it is about ...

[Ros 56]

And how, something has changed a lot, well, it's enough to tell a fairy tale. What have you achieved? As you danced to someone else's tune, so you dance. Don't make people laugh.

[pytar]

And how, something has changed a lot, well, it's enough to tell a fairy tale. What have you achieved? As you danced to someone else's tune, so you dance. Don't make people laugh.

I have no reason to explain to a person who has lived all his life in a country in which nothing depends on him. You don’t understand, nothing like that exists in your ideas.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

Well, you probably confuse with the Department of Internal Affairs.

Remind me, how many countries participating in the Internal Affairs Directorate fought for the interests of the USSR, at least take Afghanistan for clarity? You have to respect yourself at least a little, not write sick fantasies here. Although what I mean, what respect, these countries are now happy to serve themselves.

[pytar]

Remind me, how many countries participating in the Internal Affairs Directorate fought for the interests of the USSR, at least take Afghanistan for clarity?

Half a century. It was called the Cold War. It did not develop into the hot phase, since there would not be a winner in it. It is the same now.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

It did not develop into the hot phase, since there would be no winner

Well, yes, and now you can jump in front of the owner. Tell me how much you fought during the Cold War, against whom you fought, with whom? And now it is different, this is all for the struggle of democracy, you are strikingly changing your views, who is convenient and that ally, if anything, then you can come up with any fables to justify yourself. How they died and blood was shed in a fictitious war.

[pytar]

Well, yes, and now you can jump in front of the owner.

Look for the video "Yeltsin in the US Senate" on YouTube, and then find fault with others if the presence of conscience does not hurt! I will not talk about the current leadership, they will be banned.

Tell me how much you fought during the Cold War, against whom you fought, with whom?

17-25% of GDP was spent on military purposes. The USSR is also somewhere around 15-20%. How many more ideological struggles against the "imperialists" have gone on, do not give in to calculations. Shas BP we have 1,5-2% of GDP. You have 3-5%. What kind of war can we talk about now ?!

And now it's different, it's all for the struggle of democracy, you are strikingly changing your views ...

A strange "judgment"! RF is a socialist state with a communist ideology, or what? So this is how you changed your views 180 degrees!

who is convenient is an ally

If you are a citizen of the Russian Federation, first read the history of your country Horoshenko! There you will find many countries, from which they were allies, then enemies! It depends on the interests ... It is so in real life, interests rule the world!

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

Look for the video "Yeltsin in the US Senate" on YouTube, and then find fault with others if the presence of conscience does not hurt! I will not talk about the current leadership, they will be banned.

Once again, I repeat the question, did you fight a lot by the decision of the Department of Internal Affairs? About spending money in general is ridiculous, on the CMEA side, of course, no one helped, the nuclear power plant was not built, the Union also closed it. Yes, another strong and strong-willed decision. I look directly at decisions after decisions, while countries are fighting for energy, here some of them refuse gas pipelines, nuclear power plants are closed, well, you, the rich, you cannot understand, there is a lot of money.

[pytar]

Once again, I repeat the question, did you fight a lot by the decision of the Department of Internal Affairs? Spending money is generally funny ...

I will repeat once again - half a century of the "cold war"! It is not necessary to run with Kalash and shoot here and there! The expenses were colossal! Whether you are funny or not, it makes no difference to me.

on the CMEA side, of course, no one helped, the nuclear power plant was not built, it was also closed by the Union. Yes, another strong and strong-willed decision.

CMEA where? Socialist countries got everything for free, they didn't work, or what?
You'd better keep silent about the NPP, you don't know anything about this topic either! It's amazing how some people "competently" talk about countries and situations that they don't have the slightest idea about!

Well, yes, you, the rich do not understand, there is a lot of money.

Are you ... to your oligarchs? Some of the richest in the world! Good guys, no doubt about it! They are getting rich immeasurably, but the people are becoming impoverished! This is in the most resource-rich country in the world!

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

It is not necessary to run with Kalash and shoot here and there!

And now it is better to run around with Kalash, abandon energy projects, it is much more useful.

Quote: pytar

You'd better keep silent about the NPP, you don't know anything about this topic either!

I noticed, as you know, except for unfounded statements there is nothing.

Quote: pytar

Are you ... to your oligarchs? Some of the richest in the world!

Favorite argument of some comrades in the spirit of "stop the thief".

[pytar]

And now it is better to run around with Kalash, abandon energy projects, it is much more useful.

Now mercenaries, contract soldiers, chevekashniks are running around with Kalash. Nobody forces anyone. The choice of Kalashenos is personal!

I noticed, as you know, except for unfounded statements there is nothing.

Do you want specifics? Specify what kind of nuclear power plant we are talking about, I will specifically answer!

Favorite argument of some comrades in the spirit of "stop the thief".

Loved the "argument" of some comrades, does not see a beam in his own eyes, but finds fault with a straw in someone else's! Alexey, you will deal with your thieves there, they steal in such a way that you cannot compare ours with yours.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

Alexey, you will deal with your thieves there, they steal in such a way that ours cannot be compared with yours

I will, of course, raise this issue at a meeting with Putin. But I see no reason to arrange bickering, I expressed my point of view, you do not agree. As it was said in the film: "What is your evidence?" There is no desire to argue, so a good time of day for you.

[pytar]

I will, of course, raise this issue at a meeting with Putin.

Oooh ... I'm "sure" of that! I suppose you know how to turn into a speck of dust, otherwise there is no other way to get to it! I’ll tell you in secret, before our president, I was on one hand 3 times. There is a guard, but they do not particularly disturb people, and he walks along the street like an ordinary person. And the premier stopped from the jeep to us on the way. We were repairing the bridge, he walked to Varna, saw us, shook hands, talked, we criticized him, he wrote something down for himself. By the way, we recently fired him in the elections. That's how it is with us.

As the film said: "What is your evidence?"

You have not stated any specifics. From the word at all! It's a pity, you could hear interesting things from the first person, these are not your federal channels. OK. All the best.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: pytar

I suppose you know how to turn into a speck of dust, otherwise there is no other way to get to it!

How dare you think of me? Do you know who you are talking to?

[pytar]

How dare you think of me? Do you know who you are talking to?

I gave you a class!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ros 56

It is clear that for the banderostan there are no people who want to rake, but what about the NATO charter

So after all, the NATO Charter makes it possible for countries that have not lost their sanity to avoid being drawn into the war and say to the "boss" - Mine, yours, do not understand!

The countries of Eastern Europe, which previously became members of NATO, today fear that they may be drawn into an armed conflict in Ukraine. "Saves" is the article of the charter of the alliance, which does not require NATO members to participate in wars unfolding on the territory of third countries.

[Murmur 55]

They don’t want to fight, they don’t want to fight with Russia. And if some kind of Libya al Iraq to give a way to jump.

[Ros 56]

That's right, it's scary to fight with Russia, even the striped ones, and even against Iraq, everyone singled out each creature in pairs.

[razved]

When did anyone ask them?

[fuel oil]

The opinion of ordinary citizens is of little interest to those in power ...

[Asad]

Unfortunately, this is the case everywhere.

[jovanni]

Ordinary citizens of Eastern Europe do not want the United States to involve their countries in a possible military conflict over Ukraine

The lot of ordinary citizens to march in these ranks and ranks where ordered. And to wish a private is not supposed to be according to the charter. There is no such concept in the charter ...

[Pavel episkop]

Bulgarians should talk about it! World War II against Russia, the reindeer were among the first who rushed to NATO and the EU ... At the expense of others - how the military will be given an order from NATO - so it will be (ordinary civilians will not be asked) ..

[tralflot1832]

Sharkhan is not interested in the opinion of ordinary citizens of Eastern Europe.

[rocket757]

Ordinary citizens of Eastern Europe do not want the United States to involve their countries in a possible military conflict over Ukraine

... So it is clear that the upper ones listen little to the opinion of ordinary citizens ... it all depends on how much and how they say. Passive grumbling does not interest anyone, active, aggressive rejection, something and someone that is difficult to level up, this is another question that can result in anything.
Although, without external stimulation and a specific goal of the protesters, this is also not very serious, it can hardly affect anything.

[Silver bullet]

Eastern Europeans are hobbits and gnomes who know perfectly well that the light elves of the West will not come to fight with the bear Bjorn, and Smaug who lives behind a puddle is not so immortal. Orcs of Gundabad are also waiting in the wings, and if there is no bear, then there will be "Great Turan" and burqa in Prague and Warsaw.

[Vasyan1971]

Ordinary citizens of Eastern Europe do not want the United States to involve their countries in a possible military conflict over Ukraine

Excuse me, of course, but "ordinary citizens" seriously think that the Americans are going to fight with OWN hands?

[Denis812]

I went here just now to team building in Krakow with a couple of my teams, half of them are Poles, the rest is a hodgepodge of Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians and other "come in large numbers".
As they got drunk, they also started talking about this latest news.
Most of all, the war was demanded by the Ukrainians, but for some reason ONLY if the United States harnessed. And not with the supply of weapons, I’m right here so that the 1st armored brigade flew in and began to smack the Russians here, and the glorious Ukrainian soldiers would powerfully yell "hurray, for Bandera," and so on.
In general, the Poles generally merged politely, saying that Ukraine should figure it out on its own.
One person interestingly said, they say, this is a showdown in Ukraine, but "When the Russian Federation reaches Lviv, then we will talk with the Russian Federation about the zones of influence" :)

[prior]

Dear Young Europeans.
You were taken to NATO not to defend you, but to defend NATO.
Cannon fodder for Uncle Sam is your high mission in NATO.
And you thought how .......

[dauria]

And you thought how ...

Probably the same as young roosters closer to autumn. "We are not raised for meat, but because we are beautiful songbirds."

[isv000]

The United States succeeded in conquering the USSR - with a dollar and without a war.

With "conquering" an obvious overkill - with this approach, our citizens begin to concentrate their attention on the nearest shaft ...

[pytar]

In the Bulgarian edition of Facts, the authors reflect on what “red lines” Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden are going to indicate to each other, what opportunities are available to avoid a military confrontation over Ukraine. Readers of the Bulgarian press are afraid of what was discussed above - the involvement of Bulgaria in an armed conflict over Ukraine ...

Looked at "Facts". Didn't find such a post. Okay, probably I was looking badly, but similar comments (and their antipodes), like a blueprint, can be found in a lot of bulg. forums. Bots take up most of the forum space. If we look through the VO, and we can also find a bunch of the same type of comments, for each specific topic. There are also here.
What can I say about real life? The Russian-Ukrainian crisis is present in the media, but far from being the main one. And the majority of Bulgarians are worried about their own affairs and internal problems in the country. The armed conflict between Russia and NATO looks unrealistic. All sane people understand this. Propaganda and reality often differ.

[Waltasar]

If you started to worry, then you began to believe in the possibility of such an outcome.
And this is rather bad propaganda works.

[Vladimir61]

Which once again confirms that citizens decide everything at the elections! Have chosen, eat!

[TatarinSSSR]

Why is the author of this article so sure that these comments are written by Bulgarians, Hungarians, Slovaks? A certain Vasya Pupkin is sitting in Saratov for a laptop and with a changed VPN, for example, in Bulgarian and logs in under different accounts like he is Bulgarian and scribbles comments. I used to have fun on Ukrainian sites, troll them. Over time I got tired))

[pytar]

Why is the author of this article so sure that these comments are written by Bulgarians, Hungarians, Slovaks? A certain Vasya Pupkin is sitting in Saratov at a laptop and ...

And they write with the same mistakes! It can be seen in the training manuals like this.

It's funny, but when you look at ru-sites and forums, the same theses and suggestions! Noticeably, in the ru-forums "original", and then simply translated into Bulgarian, without delving into! An ordinary resident of Bulgaria does not express himself like that, there is a difference in concepts, in meaning! Yes, and on our sites, no one pays attention to where the VPN is from, you can and do not try.

[Ilgizl]

I also wanted to join the comments: when everything is full and stable, they are condescendingly listened to. But when the boil begins to spit on their opinion, and it is strange that they, as adults, do not understand this. It’s like in life, to whom people listen to ordinary people, or the rich and influential.