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From autumn to winter - without Russian gas? November Stream Chronicles

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Everything has already been paid for to us


The situation around the ambitious gas project began to calm down at the end of October. It is no coincidence that Russian lawmakers then noted that the completion of the certification process for Nord Stream 2 is realistic already in December 2021 - January 2022, provided that the process is not politicized.

From the programmatic speech of Pavel Zavalny, Chairman of the Duma Energy Committee, it followed that if the European Commission and the German regulator did not violate the procedures and regulations, the gas pipeline would be certified no later than December 2021 - January 2022.

November 1 2021 city At the climate summit in Glasgow, Scotland, a number of green delegations acknowledged that the launch of Nord Stream 2 will definitely improve the gas supply situation in Europe.

Primarily because it opens up capacities for the supply of blue fuel from the Bovanenkovo ​​field. As you know, it reached the productivity of 115 billion m3 / year. There is no opportunity to supply these volumes to Europe through the Nizhny Novgorod corridor and through Ukraine, and only two Nord Streams are capable of doing this.

2 November. Omid Nuripur (pictured), a German politician of Iranian origin, said that the current situation on the gas market in Europe allegedly suits Gazprom, "receiving additional dividends."

From autumn to winter - without Russian gas? November Stream Chronicles
Photo: wikimedia.org

The representative of the German Green Party is quite in solidarity with the Ukrainian political scientist Zemlyansky, who is surprised that “the certification process of the gas pipeline is far from the first time, the conditions are the same, but for some reason neither German lawyers nor Russian lawyers understood that the pipeline operator should be registered in Germany".

These experts are convinced that they probably knew about such a nuance, but they deliberately violated it. At the same time, O. Nuripur notes that the gas pipeline itself was and remains a wrong German decision - not an American one.

But the new US sanctions are also unacceptable for the opponents of Nord Stream 2, and the “greens”, who have always fought with the gas pipeline, now cannot understand “what kind of friendship is that the United States is striving for and in which sanctions fall on friends if they do business with third parties. "

Complete not Copenhagen


2 November. The Danish government again opposed the launch of Nord Stream 2. At the same summit in Glasgow, Danish Prime Minister M. Frederiksen announced this.

So, Denmark has taken up the old, despite the acute energy crisis in Europe and the previously issued building permit, which the Danish prime minister designated as a technical moment. The situation on the energy markets did not change the country's position.

Of stories issue... Recall that the problems of the Nord Stream 2 project began precisely with Denmark, which closed its Special Zone in the Baltic (Danish Gas Games). The subsequent retreat of the Danes turned out to be only a maneuver. Involvement in the Gazprom project created the illusion of confidence that the project could not be stopped.

Apparently, it was not possible to stop SP-2, but it was most likely to reduce profitability, although now the changed situation with gas prices again makes the project highly profitable.

The main route was threatened with blocking by Denmark for reasons of national security, and there was no progress on it. Project operator Nord-Stream AG withdrew its application, choosing an alternative route, which is regulated not by the Danish authorities, but by the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

However, there were delays, both along this route and along the third, although they did not seriously affect the course of construction. It was delayed the most by US sanctions and then by the coronavirus pandemic. Nevertheless, they deserve their gratitude from the United States in Copenhagen.

This did not stop US President Donald Trump from making an unprecedented scandal with his offer to buy from Denmark (more precisely, transfer it) to Greenland in perpetual US possession. Is it any wonder that Copenhagen has begun to look more soberly at the Nord Stream 2 project?

The coming to power of the Democrats, headed by J. Biden, allowed Denmark, saving face, to withdraw from bargaining on Nord Stream 2, focusing all attention on the Polish alternative to the Baltic Pipe (Poland offers an alternative to Nord Stream).


Lord commanded to share


8 November. Another ardent opponent of Nord Stream 2, Ukraine, is in a hurry to remove its share of the cream from it. An application has been submitted from Kiev from the Ukrainian GTS to participate in the certification of the Russian-European main gas pipeline.

A positive decision was made a week later. There are no additional costs for the Ukrainian share - the partners will have to share.

9 November. A group of Republican senators prepared an amendment to the bill on the US defense budget for fiscal 2022, which, as is known, takes into account the expanding sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

The amendment was initiated by six senators, the leader of which is the head of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee D. Risch. In accordance with it, the sanctions should be expanded.

As a result, on November 23, two more suspects were added to the sanctions list - the supply vessel Marlin, which participated in the completion of the Nord Stream 2 project, and the Blue Ship, a stone-laying vessel flying the flag of Cyprus. He has been backfilling gas pipes in Danish waters since September 2021, after the completion of the construction of the gas pipeline.

In the name of peace on earth?


16 November. In addition to the Ukrainian gas transportation system operator, admitted to the certification procedure for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline operator, Nord Stream 2 AG, the same right is reserved for the Polish PGNiG and its subsidiary PGNiG Supply & Trading GmbH.

17 November. Certification of the Nord Stream 2 operator has been suspended. The Kremlin does not consider such a decision politicized, drawing attention to the operation of certain protocols and norms of European legislation in this regard.

Operator Nord Stream 2 has declared its readiness to comply with all the requirements of the current legislation in order to launch this important project for all as soon as possible.

18 November. Germany should abandon Nord Stream 2 in the name of peace, says Polish Prime Minister M. Morawiecki. He is ready to repeat his words to the new German chancellor. According to Moravetsky, the situation on the border with Belarus is currently stable, but it is becoming more and more dangerous.

The Polish prime minister was brief - V. Putin and A. Lukashenko are clearly following a strategy to destabilize the West, and Belarus uses migrants as weapons... Although how this is connected with SP-2, the Polish politician did not explain. But it is Poland that protects all of Europe on its border.

Green reversal


24 November. The German party Soyuz 90 / Greens condemned the expansion of the US sanctions list against IHL Nord Stream 2. It is indicative that after convincing participation in the parliamentary elections and in the new cabinet, the position of the Soyuz-90 / Greens party, the traditional opponent of the SP-2, has become much more restrained in relation to the project.

30 November. Germany will not postpone certification of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Berlin's decision angered both Ukraine and the United States, where they were betting on the long-awaited departure of Angela Merkel, who allegedly had certain obligations to Russian President V. Putin.

With the unexpectedly rapid onset of cold weather, experts started talking about how this sobered the FRG politicians. Not only because of the delays in the certification and launch of Nord Stream 2, but also because of a number of other problems, there are less and less blue fuel reserves in European storage facilities.


Photo: © Nord Stream 2 / Axel Schmidt

30 November. The launch date for Nord Stream 2 really depends not so much on certification or sanctions as on the weather. Now Germany is interested in starting to receive natural gas from Russia as soon as possible. It is no coincidence that Berlin demands that Washington stop interfering in Europe's energy security, forgetting about the policy of sanctions pressure.

German environmentalists have consistently actively opposed Nord Stream 2, but US interference in the project has become unnecessarily harsh even for them. Earlier, as you know, it was said that the project is a terrible decision for the energy security of Germany. It is anti-climate protection, divisive in the EU.

It was the “greens” who linked the project to the Navalny case, and the aforementioned O. Nuripur said that Nord Stream 2 finances repression in Russia. But now the voices in favor of a more relaxed attitude to the project are being heard more and more clearly among environmentalists.

Jurgen Trittin, one of the oldest (since 1980) members of the Soyuz-90 / Greens party, who served for eight years as Germany's environmental minister, admitted in the summer of this year that the shutdown of Nord Stream 2 would bring great damage to Germany. In his opinion, it is better to look for a fundamental solution to the issue in reducing the demand for gas, which will make the gas pipeline unnecessary.
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  1. paul3390
    paul3390 9 December 2021 15: 12
    +1
    Maybe - for a final clarification of the situation, it makes sense to simply dismantle the pipe to Tsegabonia from our side? Motivated, for example, by the inexpediency of further repairs? To completely close the issue, so to speak - there is no pipe, there are no squeals about transit. And - no one is going to deprive our gas of our gas - she can always buy it in Europ at European exchange prices. Delivered via Germany and Hungary from newly built pipelines.
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 9 December 2021 15: 22
      -23
      Quote: paul3390
      Delivered via Germany and Hungary from newly built pipelines.

      Today's supplies to Hungary under a new agreement, for transit, cost Gazprom 4 times more than through Ukraine. More expensive for yourself, but only to spite Ukraine.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 9 December 2021 15: 27
        +18
        Yes? Why were they built then? To pay 4 times more than Tsegabon residents? Not - they certainly got it pretty well with their theft and litigation, but not so much? What, what - and our noneshnie authorities are good at counting the loot. They will strangle anyone for a pretty penny.

        Besides, why should we finance an openly fascist regime at all? They want to shit on Russia - let them shit if they can, but at their own expense.
      2. Edik
        Edik 9 December 2021 16: 16
        +17
        Quote: WIKI
        Today's supplies to Hungary under a new agreement, for transit, cost Gazprom 4 times more than through Ukraine.

        Can you prove it?
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 9 December 2021 20: 25
          -11
          Quote: Edik
          Can you prove it?

          From 15 minutes:
          1. Edik
            Edik 9 December 2021 20: 31
            +8
            Victor, I sent you where not? No, I didn’t!
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 9 December 2021 20: 44
              -11
              From the 15th minute, the expert of the oil and gas market explains.
              Quote: Edik
              I will not watch any trouble

              This is not a problem, but the opinion of an expert. If you don't want to, don't look.
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Крутихин,_Михаил_Иванович
              1. Edik
                Edik 9 December 2021 20: 47
                +8
                Okay, I'll send you there too!
                https://finance.rambler.ru/business/47308126-vygodnaya-istoriya-dlya-gazproma-ekspert-o-tranzite-gaza-v-vengriyu-v-obhod-ukrainy/
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 9 December 2021 23: 46
                  -12
                  The key and incomprehensible expression in this article is "pumping cost".
                  "With gas supply via Turkish Stream, the same multi-layered tariffs will be obtained. If we assume that the cost of transporting gas in the southern direction is equal to the costs of the already operating Nord Stream, then the prime cost will be $ 8,59 per thousand cubic meters.
                  This amount will cost Gazprom to supply gas to Turkey itself. In the case of Hungary, gas from Turkey is transported to Bulgaria and further, via an unbuilt interconnector, through Serbia to Hungary. Let's say that in Serbia the tariff will be identical to the Bulgarian one. Then the supply of gas from Russia to Hungary in the southern direction will cost $ 20,19. "Now compare with the tariff for pumping through Ukraine.
                  https://ruskline.ru/opp/2017/avgust/4/chto_poteryaet_rossiya_esli_otkazhetsya_ot_gazoprovodov_v_obhod_ukrainy/
                  1. Bad_gr
                    Bad_gr 10 December 2021 00: 55
                    +13
                    On TV, they once showed Miller's conversation with Putin on this issue.
                    Miller said that it is now more profitable for them to let all the gas bypassing Ukraine, and for Ukraine to pay the penalties imposed in this case. Putin insisted on fulfilling the contract with Ukraine for pumping the agreed volumes.
                    1. WIKI
                      WIKI 10 December 2021 01: 07
                      -15
                      I don’t watch TV, and I’m not interested in these games under the carpet.
                      1. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 10 December 2021 01: 14
                        +15
                        Quote: WIKI
                        I don’t watch TV, and I’m not interested in these games under the carpet.
                        Nevertheless, it was you who said that pumping gas along the new route to Hungary is 4 times more expensive, that is, you are looking for information on these "games under the carpet" somewhere.
                      2. Edik
                        Edik 10 December 2021 02: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: WIKI
                        I don’t watch TV, and I’m not interested in these games under the carpet.

                        And I am so very interested in your games under the carpet!
                        From your own article that you slip here ...
                        Quote: WIKI
                        Then the supply of gas from Russia to Hungary in the southern direction will cost $ 20,19. "Now compare with the tariff for pumping through Ukraine.

                        I still read your article ..
                        In any case, the efficiency of Turkish Stream is better than Nord Stream 2 when compared to the Ukrainian route. Thus, the cost of gas delivery for Turkey using the Black Sea gas pipeline will be 4-5 times lower (at the contractual tariff - at new rates), for Greece and Italy it will be 4,3-5,7 times cheaper, for Hungary - 1,6 times. -2,1 times.

                        Pay attention to the table, they calculated the cost of pumping through Ukraine $ 43.5.
                  2. Edik
                    Edik 10 December 2021 01: 11
                    +7
                    All you need to know is that there will be one transit country between us and Hungary, everything else can be counted in both directions, depending on who pays you for the count! And always, always, the cost of delivery is invested in the body of the goods. And if I were you, I would have thought with my head why we were building the Turkish stream at all and are now building the northern 2.
                    Alexey Miller, Chairman of the Board of the Russian gas monopoly Gazprom, is among the top three most effective CEOs, according to the Harvard Business Review magazine.
                    Apple CEO Steve Jobs ranked first on the list, followed by Yoon Chen Yong from Samsung Electronics.

                    Something like this...
                    1. WIKI
                      WIKI 10 December 2021 10: 09
                      -6
                      Quote: Edik
                      Alexey Miller is among the three most effective CEOs


                      ROIC (Return on Invested Capital) allows investors to assess how effectively a company is transforming the capital invested in it into profit
                      ROE is the amount of profit that the company receives from the shareholder's investment in the company.
                      And where did you see the high efficiency of the company's management?
                      1. Edik
                        Edik 10 December 2021 10: 13
                        +3
                        Have we already finished the four-way pricing and moved on to Miller?
                      2. just exp
                        just exp 11 December 2021 12: 46
                        +2
                        when one lie is revealed, then one must begin to lie on another but similar topic. otherwise the curator won't pat the head
                  3. common man
                    common man 10 December 2021 07: 52
                    +1
                    Quote: WIKI
                    In the case of Hungary, gas from Turkey is transported to Bulgaria and further, via an unbuilt interconnector, through Serbia to Hungary. Let's say that in Serbia the tariff will be identical to the Bulgarian one. Then the supply of gas from Russia to Hungary in the southern direction will cost $ 20,19. "Now compare with the tariff for pumping through Ukraine.

                    Even if transit through Turkey will be more expensive. During transit through Ukraine, Russian gas is impregnated with Banderist molecules. When it is subsequently burned by a consumer in Europe, firstly, the heat of combustion decreases, and secondly, these Bandera molecules are released into the atmosphere. From this, the faithful Europeans have a headache, ozone holes appear in the atmosphere, and the covid virus mutates even faster. Even just out of love and pity for the Europeans, transit through dangerous (infectious) territory should be minimized as much as possible.
              2. Hagen
                Hagen 10 December 2021 06: 38
                +12
                Quote: WIKI
                This is not a problem, but the opinion of an expert.

                Krutikhin is still an expert. There is no that barrel of Gazprom, in which he did not spit. He actively collaborates with Western media, Echo of Moscow. In short, a professional oppositionist. And, characteristically, many of his predictions for the dying of the oil and gas industry did not come true. He can say a lot, only the price of what he said is not high. Here he is a specialist in the Middle East and its history, and he would be engaged in this matter ...
                1. WIKI
                  WIKI 10 December 2021 08: 59
                  -11
                  Quote: Hagen
                  And, characteristically, many of his predictions for the dying of the oil and gas industry did not come true.

                  You can give an example, or is it just your speculation.
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 10 December 2021 09: 17
                    +6
                    Quote: WIKI
                    You can give an example,

                    Well, here's an example from a recent one:
                    "- The United States is confident that Nord Stream 2, due to the sanctions they are imposing, will never work. If this really happens, then what will happen to the infrastructure that has already been built?
                    - We see that the Fortuna barge is now sailing at sea, which, apparently, is laying part of the Nord Stream-2 at a depth where American sanctions are allowed to work. It is 100 feet deep, up to 30 meters. But in a deeper section, Denmark is unlikely to allow work. These works cannot be certified, cannot be insured, and technical support cannot be provided. So, there is a huge chance that the pipe will not be completed and it was all in vain. This facility cannot be used in any way. "(2000-results interview for Killer Whale.media)
      3. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 9 December 2021 20: 35
        +2
        Quote: WIKI
        Today's supplies to Hungary under a new agreement, for transit, cost Gazprom 4 times more than through Ukraine. More expensive for yourself, but only to spite Ukraine.

        The long-term agreement concluded in 1995 for the supply of natural gas from Russia to Hungary ends by the beginning of the new gas year (October 1)
        Parameters of the new contract for the supply of Russian gas to Hungary:
        .......
        ...... the gas price was not disclosed, it is only specified that the new agreement is much more profitable in price than the 1995 contract.
        https://neftegaz.ru/news/transport-and-storage/694818-gazprom-i-vengriya-dogovorilis-ob-usloviyakh-novogo-dolgosrochnogo-kontrakta-na-postavku-gaza-pochti/
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 9 December 2021 23: 50
          -13
          Quote: Bad_gr
          gas price was not disclosed,

          And there is no secret here. The price is taken from the calculation of its cost at the nearest hub.
      4. victor_47
        victor_47 11 December 2021 22: 12
        +4
        The state of Ukraine today is the most vicious enemy, the most hating Russia. Anything to supply to Ukraine to maintain its economy is not just stupidity, it is a crime.
    2. Civil
      Civil 9 December 2021 15: 50
      -1
      Some businessmen, in order to sell gas, have built a gas pipeline for other businessmen at huge costs so as not to pay third businessmen for transit. A fascinating story good
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 December 2021 16: 45
      +4
      Quote: paul3390
      Maybe - for a final clarification of the situation, it makes sense to simply dismantle the pipe to Tsegabonia from our side?

      Maybe BEFORE the situation is finally resolved, it makes sense to respond to the statements of the Ukrainian authorities and ex-officials with a trade embargo?
    4. Barge_watchman
      Barge_watchman 9 December 2021 17: 15
      -6
      Get started!
      God is with you!
      contractual penalty, out of your pocket ....?
    5. Hagen
      Hagen 10 December 2021 06: 15
      +2
      Quote: paul3390
      Maybe - for a final clarification of the situation, it makes sense to simply dismantle the pipe to Tsegabonia from our side? Motivated, for example, by the inexpediency of further repairs?

      I think the option of suspending the Ukrainian route "for repairs" is envisaged. As a means of "sobering up" in case of provocations going out of control in Donbass. Most likely it will be a complex action of a one-time suspension of all energy resources both from us and from the Belarusian side. But only suspension. A complete break is not beneficial to us now.
    6. Free wind
      Free wind 14 December 2021 12: 39
      0
      what is it? Moscow led by itin?
  2. prior
    prior 9 December 2021 15: 15
    +6
    When the consumption of oil and gas begins to actually decline, then we can start talking about energy substitution.
    And now - in line, all in line, for Russian gas ... until Putin raised the prices.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 9 December 2021 16: 07
      +1
      We can discuss this in 50 years.
      1. Motorist
        Motorist 11 December 2021 01: 22
        -1
        Quote: Pessimist22
        We can discuss this in 50 years.

        Pessimist, you are optimistic. I don't see any alternative to fossil fuels at all.
  3. WIKI
    WIKI 9 December 2021 15: 16
    -10
    The launch date for Nord Stream 2 really depends not so much on certification or sanctions as on the weather.

    But what actually changed. Was the Sahara in Germany in the past? No, they didn’t have enough gas before? No. And what does the SP-2 have to do with it, and the weather.
    1. knn54
      knn54 9 December 2021 15: 28
      +9
      Victor, when the solar panels are covered with snow and calm weather sets in, then EVERYTHING will clear up. taking into account the closure of coal-fired power plants and nuclear power plants.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 9 December 2021 15: 39
        +5
        Quote: knn54
        and calm weather will be established

        somehow with the wind lately .. Poles, neighbors of Germans ...
        On December 6, 2021, due to weak wind generation, as well as emergency and repair stops of a number of power units, difficulties arose with balancing the national power system ... - the operator of the Polish power system Polskie Sieci Elektroenergetyczne (PSE) ... that the fall of the Polish "green" generation had to be covered by the station, which runs on the most environmentally dirty type of fuel - fuel oil.
        https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/12/07/ukraina-i-partner-gazproma-spasli-polshu-ot-veernyh-otklyucheniy-gryaznoy-energiey
      2. WIKI
        WIKI 9 December 2021 20: 30
        -13
        When he falls asleep, and de-winds, then we will talk about it.
    2. vitvit123
      vitvit123 9 December 2021 16: 37
      +2
      Perhaps now the consumption of Electricity, which is generated with the help of gas, is increasing .., accordingly, the demand for gas is increasing .. there the demand for gas is now strongly connected with the production and consumption of energy .. every year they consume more, but with production without gas, it turns out very expensive ... hopefully explained, "in a nutshell" ...
      1. Barge_watchman
        Barge_watchman 9 December 2021 17: 30
        -8
        What other increase?
        Previously, the apartment consumed up to 200 kW per month, now 50-70. The tube TV ate 300 watts an hour, 12 hours a day.
        now, laptop 60, phone, modem ... the refrigerator is super economical ..
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 9 December 2021 18: 15
          +3
          Yes, I saw that households started to consume less, but industry began to consume more, and because of this, there was an increase in the country too. And then consumption may even decrease, but production may require more gas, as remove nuclear power plants, coal, etc.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 9 December 2021 19: 27
            0
            Quote: vitvit123
            but the industry began to consume more

            The industry did not consume more. They began to sell more abroad, or stupidly reduced the capacity of the stations. An example is the VAZ CHP in Togliatti, with a capacity of 1200 megawatts. Today it operates at only a third of its capacity. Fuel gas. On the contrary, the hydroelectric power station began to generate more, due to the modernization of turbines and generators, but everything goes for sale outside the region.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 10 December 2021 07: 26
              +1
              Just in case, I will remind you that I consider you a vile person and a scoundrel, an anti-drug, so there is no desire to conduct a dialogue with you.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 10 December 2021 22: 11
                0
                You cannot think, that is the problem. That is why you hide in the bushes of far-fetched reasons.
                And yes, I am an anti-Putin, because his policy is killing the country and the Russian people.
                1. vitvit123
                  vitvit123 11 December 2021 09: 17
                  -1
                  What you think is enough for me, that's where the problems come from ...
          2. Barge_watchman
            Barge_watchman 10 December 2021 12: 18
            -3
            I do not know of such an industry.
            although, associated with her in 78 years. and worked in the OGM, and as an electrician at the factory ...
            where the 3 kW extractor hood was plugged in. now costs 300 W, ov. LED, zoned. machines, more economical by an order of magnitude.
            injection molding. - lumin is melted not by two-pound ingots, in a crucible with a centimeter nichrome, but in TVM, granules .... it eats two orders of magnitude less.
            and so, in everything.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 10 December 2021 13: 32
              0
              I brought you what I found in the public domain ... I'm not interested in where you work and what you are doing now ... but in our dispute, the Internet will help you, I referred to what I had read and heard ...
              1. Barge_watchman
                Barge_watchman 10 December 2021 14: 12
                -3
                yes, it is ringing so ... sonorous ...
                I understand that you are not in the subject.
                1. vitvit123
                  vitvit123 10 December 2021 14: 16
                  +1
                  And I realized that you are very deep in the subject .. wassat
                  1. Barge_watchman
                    Barge_watchman 10 December 2021 14: 22
                    0
                    Understood correctly, congratulations.
                  2. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 10 December 2021 22: 13
                    0
                    Quote: vitvit123
                    what are you in very deep in the subject

                    Your topic goes deeper ... bully (proctologists will understand)
                    1. vitvit123
                      vitvit123 11 December 2021 09: 20
                      -1
                      Well, did you play the role of a tampon (well, sharpening) here? .. the most important thing is that you do not forget to dispose of, after saturation fellow
                      Well, I think they won't keep you there for a long time either ...wassat
                      After the plug for you, the title of antiputka will even be honorable .., but you try and maybe everything will return, think more - you will be richer! wassat
      2. WIKI
        WIKI 9 December 2021 20: 33
        -7
        Quote: vitvit123
        there the demand for gas is now strongly associated with the production and consumption of energy .. every year they consume more, but with production without gas, it turns out very expensive

        In 2020, Germany produced 484 billion kWh of electricity, of which 50% was from renewable energy sources, 24% from coal, and 12% from natural gas.
        1. Simple
          Simple 10 December 2021 00: 50
          +3
          In 2020 Germany produced ...

          To produce something she produced, only did this current reach the end consumer?
          Statistics can be compiled in different ways.
          1. expert
            expert 11 December 2021 17: 45
            0
            Actual figures for 2020 in Germany:
            Price for private consumer 33,80 Cent / kWh.
        2. vitvit123
          vitvit123 10 December 2021 07: 23
          +1
          This can say nothing at all, in the context of this topic ..
        3. D16
          D16 10 December 2021 11: 07
          +4
          In 2020, Germany produced 484 billion kWh of electricity, of which 50% was from renewable energy sources

          How much energy did it take in China to produce these panels and wind turbines? lol
          This is what all American LNG, which is now so lacking in Europe, went to. wassat .
        4. Motorist
          Motorist 11 December 2021 01: 36
          +2
          Quote: WIKI
          of which 50% was from renewable energy sources

          Oh, can you then tell us why the cost of energy and gas is constantly growing in Germany? Apparently, the wind is expensive now ...
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 December 2021 22: 58
      0
      Quote: WIKI
      But what actually changed. Was the Sahara in Germany in the past? No, they didn’t have enough gas before? No. And what does the SP-2 have to do with it, and the weather.

      Gas reserves in UGS facilities have changed, which are clearly insufficient for wintering without problems, this is firstly, and secondly, the geography of LNG supplies has changed, since the one that used to go to Europe is now supplied to the Asian market. the price for it is higher there, and therefore the supply has also decreased, because of which gas in Europe has passed into the category of a scarce commodity, which, in fact, served as a trigger for the rise in gas prices. Gazprom, in turn, both pumped and pumps the volumes that were stipulated in the contracts, and therefore, no matter how hard mattresses and European clothes try to accuse him of price increases, it is not his fault, which is confirmed by the absence of lawsuits from the EU for non-compliance Gazprom of the terms of gas contracts.
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 10 December 2021 00: 06
        -6
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Gas reserves in UGS have changed, which are clearly insufficient

        At the end of October, gas reserves in European gas storage facilities were close to the multiyear average. But there is a problem with reserves in storage facilities owned by Gazprom.
        "In any case, filling Gazprom's storage facilities to at least 80%, comparable to the EU average, already looks almost impossible this year."
        http://energo-news.ru/archives/165510
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 10 December 2021 00: 36
          +2
          What do you think the EU replaces the volumes of the fallen out gas due to the shortage of American LNG that left for Asia? From the UGS, and, accordingly, the gas reserves there (without replenishment) will be depleted faster than in previous (fat) years. Here the formula - "If it diminishes somewhere, then it will be added somewhere" does not work, because if the EU has lost (LNG), then ... it’s commonplace in the EU and in the UGS. Gazprom cannot cover all the "American" underdelivery within the framework of its existing contracts, since they stipulate specific volumes. Delivery of volumes exceeding contractual ones is subject to an increased transit tariff, which Gazprom will have to pay out of its own pocket. Ukraine has proposed to reduce this "welding for transit" by 50%, but this proposal is not interesting because it still increases transit costs, at a time when, being within the framework of the current contract, Gazprom fulfills its obligations and does not risk anything. hi
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 10 December 2021 01: 04
            -8
            What do you mean by underdelivery. If they have contracts, they will fulfill them. The reserves will be depleted more if Gazprom does not fill its storage facilities. And what have the Americans got to do with it if Gazprom's storage facilities are not full? And he probably has obligations on the fill level of his storage facilities. Of course, the Americans are to blame for everything, and who else.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 10 December 2021 09: 55
              +5
              Quote: WIKI
              What do you mean by underdelivery.

              The volumes of LNG that used to go to Europe from the Americans, but have recently been reoriented to Asia, since there the price is higher.
              Quote: WIKI
              If they have contracts, they will fulfill them.

              Beadon has already said that he cannot tell American businesses where to send gas, because this is regulated by the market and profits ...
              Quote: WIKI
              Of course, the Americans are to blame for everything, and who else.

              No damn, the Martians are to blame. Here, with the exception of you, any hedgehog already understands that this entire energy crisis in Europe is of a man-made nature, since it meets the interests of the United States exclusively.
            2. D16
              D16 10 December 2021 10: 54
              +5
              And he probably has obligations on the fill level of his storage facilities.

              The SOE has obligations to supply gas to consumers. Gas is pumped into storage facilities during periods of low demand. After all, no one cancels the "download or pay" rule during these periods. So they pumped so that the money would not be wasted. But no one obliges the SOE to fill their storage facilities in the same way as no one obliges you to live in your apartment. Pay for the communal apartment and that's it. Moreover, there is a large reserve pipe called SP2. And if gas suddenly becomes insufficient and new contracts with consumers appear, it will be launched and certified. Otherwise, in spite of the grandmother, they will freeze their ears in the literal sense of the word. lol ... In general, after the arbitrations with Poland and Ukraine, you can expect anything from the EU and keep your gas reserves on its territory, to put it mildly, it's silly winked .
              Of course, the Americans are to blame for everything, and who else.

              No. The Chinese and other Asians are to blame for buying up shale gas. Will complete the GP Power of Siberia 2, and the EU will go for gas around the world with its package. The third energy package lol (C).
        2. D16
          D16 10 December 2021 11: 16
          +3
          In any case, the filling of Gazprom's storage facilities is at least 80%, comparable to the EU average,

          What for? What prevents you from fulfilling your obligations directly from the pipe and keeping the pumping at the level of contractual values? What would the EU, when it squeezes, take this gas by the decision of the "fairest" wassat arbitration in the world?
  4. fif21
    fif21 9 December 2021 15: 18
    +7
    I don't even want to read about these showdowns. Gazprom and patriotism are incompatible things. Gasify Russia (untranslatable pun)! And the fact that you sell raw materials to the right and left has been shot for this earlier. Who do the poor work for? am
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 9 December 2021 15: 24
      +14
      Gazprom and patriotism are incompatible things
      Two psychiatrists are talking:
      - Imagine, I found a simple and indicative test for the extreme degree of idiocy.
      - Which one?
      - I ask patients if you believe that Gazprom is a national treasure. You will not believe that no idiot, you believe in it.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 December 2021 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: Crowe
        You will not believe that no idiot, you believe in it.

        Although they are idioty, they live under capitalism.
      2. Edik
        Edik 9 December 2021 22: 19
        +1
        Quote: Crowe
        Two psychiatrists are talking:
        - Imagine, I found a simple and indicative test for the extreme degree of idiocy.

        Crowe and fif21
        I'm just that "id-yot"!
        The share of tax payments from Gazprom in the Russian budget is 16.2%!
        So which of us go-from, you or me?
    2. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 9 December 2021 15: 58
      +4
      Gasify Russia
      Free? Shchazzzzz ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 9 December 2021 19: 31
        -3
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        For nothing?

        You have no idea how artificially complicated the procedure of the so-called Putin's pre-gasification is. Seven circles of hell, and this is for me, relatively young, and rummaging in a computer. For the elderly, this is an unrealistic task; it is banal to apply for pre-gasification. hi
    3. Hagen
      Hagen 10 December 2021 07: 09
      +5
      Quote: fif21
      And the fact that you sell raw materials to the right and left has been shot for this earlier. Who do the poor work for?

      On you, darlings ... Only you ... do not see the obvious and you have a hard time with the concept. 2 trillion rubles of direct payments to the budget annually - who do you think this is for?
      Quote: fif21
      I don't even want to read about these showdowns.

      Therefore, your idea of ​​the subject is, to put it mildly, peculiar ...
      Quote: fif21
      Gasify Russia (untranslatable pun)!

      And that earlier this was not publicly played with words, under Soviet rule? Was it scary? Only in the kitchen ...? And besides, you are making this claim about gasification, Gazprom? And what does he have to do with gasification? You are generally far from the topic in principle ... Still, reading is sometimes useful.
  5. businessv
    businessv 9 December 2021 15: 20
    +1
    In his opinion, it is better to look for a fundamental solution to the issue in reducing the demand for gas, which will make the gas pipeline unnecessary.
    Jurgen Tritten has only to add to what has been said: "... therefore, today it is necessary to quickly certify JV 2 in order to expect its uselessness in more comfortable conditions ...!"
  6. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 9 December 2021 15: 27
    +4
    With the unexpectedly rapid onset of cold weather, experts started talking about how this sobered the FRG politicians.
    According to the forecast of Gizmeteo, until January 1, 2022, slight frosts are expected only at night, so they will not freeze and the tires will not burn, but there will be no European comfort. The people of Germany will not like this option.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 9 December 2021 16: 43
      +4
      So the temperature is only a part ... in connection with the "greening" in the forecast, the wind speed and cloudiness are important, but if there is calm and even clouds of all sorts, and if all this is also delayed ...
      1. Simple
        Simple 10 December 2021 00: 57
        +4
        In the FRG industry, at such a rate, the weather forecast for tomorrow will be a grave criterion. request
  7. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 9 December 2021 15: 56
    +8
    In his opinion, it is better to look for a fundamental solution to the issue in reducing the demand for gas, which will make the gas pipeline unnecessary.

    "- Gin, brandy, rum?
    “I'm on duty, sir.
    - So, whiskey. "(C) In the sense of a nuclear power plant .. wink
  8. ximkim
    ximkim 9 December 2021 16: 46
    -2
    Well, the project is political, not commercial, that's why they are pulling with the launch.
    Plus, they want a bribe from the shareholders for this sinister project.
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 10 December 2021 07: 13
      +3
      Quote: ximkim
      Well, the project is political, not commercial, that's why they are pulling with the launch.

      The project is just purely commercial. Only now Western politicians decided to use it in their narrowly special interests, far from the interests of those whom they govern.
  9. Barge_watchman
    Barge_watchman 9 December 2021 17: 13
    -4
    Even ten years ago, the available pipes were more than enough, despite the colder winters.
  10. evgen1221
    evgen1221 9 December 2021 18: 01
    -4
    In a country that is self-sufficient in resources for people with ideas, it would be possible to freeze Europe for all the good for a year, and the money from the sale of weapons of wood and oil is enough for palm oil and chocolate with coffee for the remaining population for 5 years in advance. We buy machines one fig with electronics from China inexpensively.
  11. Tests
    Tests 9 December 2021 18: 10
    +9
    Dear Authors! You are up to us, the readers of "VO" what was the main idea you wanted to convey? Let's start with the title of the article. Who entered the winter without Russian gas? Hungarians or Serbs? Doesn't Nord Stream 1 pump gas to Germany? Is Austria completely frozen? Well, if you are only talking about Nord Stream 2, then seriously listening to Russian lawmakers, something on the camera or speaking into microphones, it's like an old anecdote: “I'm not a gynecologist, but I can see it!” ... Builds "SP - 2" is a company from Switzerland. If the authors are not shareholders of "Gazprom" and the number of shares in their ownership does not allow the authors to live on the dividends of the national treasure for at least half a month - then it’s completely purple when the gas pipeline is launched. The price under Gazprom's long-term contracts for gas supplies to Europe is growing every quarter, so every quarter Gazprom increases the amount of planned investments in factories under construction in the Far East and Ust-Luga. The profit of Gazprom is growing and growing. And another moment. The onshore continuation of the main gas pipelines - the extensions of the "SP-2", were built, and not by Russian companies. Underground gas storage facilities in Germany, where Gazprom, as a shareholder - co-owner, generates income every day ... An ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation worries, most often, on issues related to gas, there are only a few questions: is it possible to gasify my house in the near future ( cottage) is not expensive; will the price of gas increase by -ts in my specific region, region, city (I heat the house with gas or I have a gas stove in the house, or I drive 5-liter gas cylinders to the dacha, the stove will be warming up for now, and I cooked it on gas once, or the new Yugo-Zapadnaya CHPP in St. Petersburg has been running on gas, and my apartment has been running on gas for 5 years on the 21st floor of a building on Marshal Kazakov Avenue from this CHPP both heat and hot water) ... Due to covid-19 at the Lomonosov diamond deposit, diamond mining was not carried out for several months, prices for bruliks around the world fell due to covids. And very close by, 30 km away, at the V.P. Griba, both in 2020 and 2021, large gem diamonds weighing more than 50 carats were mined. Here are just a lot of readers of "VO" neither to exploration, nor to mining, nor to processing, nor to sale, and even to the purchase of processed diamonds had nothing and have nothing to do with ...
  12. monster
    monster 9 December 2021 18: 42
    +1
    So the dupas crackled at the wild umbras. Velkom that kukan, svidomites!
  13. EduardGa (Yekaterinburg)
    EduardGa (Yekaterinburg) 10 December 2021 01: 54
    -3
    I, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, absolutely do not care what traders from Russia, Ukraine and other states did not share. It has long been clear to me that the conflict between states is nothing more than a conflict between the bourgeoisie of these states. I am assigned the role of a consumable on the battlefield in the carve-up of the future earnings of the bourgeois. Modern war is a natural continuation of the crisis of the capitalist system.
    Living in the Sverdlovsk region (30 km from Yekaterinburg), when it comes to gasification of a private house, it sometimes seems to me that Ukraine is here - you get tired of connecting a 40-meter-long trunk line to the boiler room - 10 months (from the moment of application), almost 200 thousand rubles. and a tariff increase almost every six months. So, regardless of their agreements, "national property" for me next year will rise in price again.
  14. riwas
    riwas 10 December 2021 09: 35
    +2
    It is no coincidence that Russian lawmakers then noted that the completion of the certification process for Nord Stream 2 is realistic already in December 2021 - January 2022, provided that the process is not politicized.

    If Ukraine and the United States do not arrange a provocation against Russia in order to prevent the launch of the SP-2. It is these terms of a possible provocation that the United States and Ukraine call, but blame Russia.
  15. ximkim
    ximkim 10 December 2021 12: 24
    -2
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: ximkim
    Well, the project is political, not commercial, that's why they are pulling with the launch.

    The project is just purely commercial. Only now Western politicians decided to use it in their narrowly special interests, far from the interests of those whom they govern.

    hi
    If there was a commercial project, then such sticks would not be inserted.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 December 2021 16: 22
      +4
      Quote: ximkim
      Quote: Hagen
      Quote: ximkim
      Well, the project is political, not commercial, that's why they are pulling with the launch.

      The project is just purely commercial. Only now Western politicians decided to use it in their narrowly special interests, far from the interests of those whom they govern.

      hi
      If there was a commercial project, then such sticks would not be inserted.

      The entire project with the pipe costs 9,5 billion dollars, of which 1/3 belongs to Russia, and the rest belongs to "European partners". Do you think that infringing on these 3 billion mattresses greatly violates Russia's "political" interest? Or all the same, they got into commercial interests, since Europe itself calls on mattresses not to interfere in the issues of its energy security? Damn, how many hedgehogs are feeding on the topic that SP-2 is an exclusively Russian problem. Yes, that's bullshit. It is unpleasant, of course, but not fatal, since exactly the same SP-1 has been pumping gas since 2011, to which the Turkish Stream has joined the heap. The pipe is ready, closed on two banks, and now we can afford such a "luxury" to let it lie on the Baltic seabed, until the end of the contract for transit through Ukraine until 2024, after which the Ukrainian pipe can be used under a colostomy bag, and the fallen volumes of gas Europe will be forced to accept supplies through the available highways, among which there will be a peacefully idle, but filled with process gas SP-2, which means a cube supplied from the territory of Russia will be reflected by the accepted cube in Germany, but already without a Ukrainian gasket.
      1. Barge_watchman
        Barge_watchman 10 December 2021 16: 56
        +1
        The entire project with a pipe costs 9,5 billion dollars, [quote] [/ quote]
        the whole, or just the "wet" part?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 10 December 2021 17: 38
          +1
          Quote: Barge_watchman
          the whole, or just the "wet" part?
          I read it for the whole (This is within the framework of "hellish" sanctions, within the framework of which it is also envisaged to disconnect from SWIFT, which at the stage of transition to other instruments of financial settlements can pull another 1,5-2 billion dollars. Roughly, then 3 billion (through the pipe) + 1,5 (2) billion dollars on SWIFT = 5 billion direct losses, which, with 700 billion of an airbag in the NWF, is not a critical amount of a word at all.
          1. Barge_watchman
            Barge_watchman 10 December 2021 18: 31
            0
            I will repeat the question differently.
            9,5 billion, that's
            1.the cost of a pipe from Ust-Luga to Germany,
            2 Cost of the "pipe" from the field to Germany.
            Which statement is true?
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 10 December 2021 19: 13
              +2
              Quote: Barge_watchman
              I will repeat the question differently.
              9,5 billion, that's
              1.the cost of a pipe from Ust-Luga to Germany,
              2 Cost of the "pipe" from the field to Germany.
              Which statement is true?

              This is, as a whole, SP-2, from the point of shipment to the point of reception. It is accepted by Germany, which, having acquired the status of a European gas hub, distributes it. Hydro-wire capacities have already been bought out 15 years ahead, and therefore the American sanctions against Russia are ricocheted against European business, which invested in the pipe. Apparently, the fact that this very business showed the European decisions a good cudgel (the ability to nullify them in the elections) resolved the issue in favor of the fact that Europe found convincing arguments that were heard in the United States and prompted them to believe that no sanctions against energy projects would be imposed.
              1. Barge_watchman
                Barge_watchman 14 December 2021 11: 45
                0
                Where is the shipping point?
                specify plz.
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 14 December 2021 14: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Barge_watchman
                  Where is the shipping point?
                  specify plz.

                  Kingiseppsky district of the Leningrad region.
                  What does this change or complement?
                  1. Barge_watchman
                    Barge_watchman 14 December 2021 15: 08
                    0
                    It's nothing.
                    I just realized that 9,5 billion is the cost of the Marine unit.
                    The cost of land, from the well, is not taken into account in any way. and is diligently hushed up.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 December 2021 07: 33
    +1
    We are waiting for normal frosts, we reduce gas supplies to contractual ones and not a single cube more, and everything will settle down by itself. The deal is more valuable then money.
  17. GarrySerg89
    GarrySerg89 12 December 2021 10: 32
    0
    Obviously, the deliberate submission of documents for certification on behalf of NS can have 2 reasons:
    - to influence the pricing this year (cook, compensate, etc., you need a word you can pick up)
    - Obviously get a prescription on the correct certification scheme, with a date and a final (!) List of requirements. Further, these requirements should be fulfilled exactly as the fulfillment of the prescription, and thus the legal configuration of certification “here and now” should be fixed in reinforced concrete, so as not to depend on possible subsequent politically motivated manipulations.

    Moreover, I am sure that if there is an opportunity to carry out certification with the current loyalty to Gazprom as a result of a court order, they will go for it on purpose in order to obtain a court decision and launch the gas pipeline within the framework of a fixed court decision. This is much safer than depending on the nose to the wind of the current German government.

    Well, a personal extra penny for all lawyers and Gazprom itself is also important. Nevertheless, at the expense of investors and consumers in the EU, from the options (fast, cheap, high-quality, choose any 2), they clearly chose only one “high-quality”, and the rest does not bother them, but only incredibly happy. If it was their will, they would build and certify it forever, this is an annual billion dollar feeder. What is the whole bunch of people doing now ?!
  18. saygon66
    saygon66 14 December 2021 16: 50
    +1
    - Yes, figs with her, with Europe then ...
    - I wonder ... what percentage of our population makes the same sad path from autumn to winter, without hope for gasification in the near future ...