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DPR head promised to shoot down Ukrainian drones, including Bayraktars

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The air defense of the Donetsk People's Republic will destroy Ukrainian drones, including Bayraktars, in case of attempts to strike at the territory of the DPR. This was stated by the head of the republic Denis Pushilin.


Speaking about the prospects for air defense, Pushilin said that at present work is being carried out in the republic to modernize the Donetsk air defense system, and means are being developed to neutralize unmanned aerial vehicles, including Turkish-made shock ones. In addition, according to Pushilin, the DPR is studying the possibility of purchasing anti-aircraft weapons, but he did not develop this topic.

The work is underway, our air defense is undergoing a certain modernization. (...) On the one hand, our military-industrial complex does not stand still, on the other hand, we study where to buy what

- he said, adding that Donetsk has "a certain potential" for the development of air defense.

The head of the DPR noted that Ukrainian small drones constantly appear over the positions of the NM DPR and the territory of the republic, but the Bayraktars purchased in Turkey do not fly close to the demarcation line, fearing to be shot down. However, Pushilin confirmed the fact of the combat use of one "Bayraktar" in Donbass.

As long as they keep a safe distance. But at any opportunity "Bayraktars" will be destroyed

- stressed the head of the DPR.

Note that drone flights aviation in the area of ​​the contact line are prohibited, except for the OSCE UAVs. However, Kiev does not intend to abide by the Minsk agreements, so it does not pay attention to the bans. The OSCE has still not reacted in any way to the use of Bayraktar in Donbass.
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  1. Magadan1
    Magadan1 5 December 2021 17: 15
    -5
    So, it seems, they are already knocking down!

    A resident of Donetsk shot down an UAV of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with a crutch:



    True, they already write that this is not an APU drone, but the fact that the drone was shot down is not denied. In the end, it makes no difference whose drone it is, the main thing is that it can already be shot down.
    1. knn54
      knn54 5 December 2021 17: 42
      0
      -means FOR NEUTRALIZING UAVs,
      That is, with the help of electronic warfare means.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 5 December 2021 18: 23
      -1
      The Turks also understand that the downed beytractors are theirs, Turkish, reputational costs, therefore, they mold a humpback that now these Turkish ubplas are no longer Turkish-like, shoot down, we will stick new ones negative
  2. 1976AG
    1976AG 5 December 2021 17: 16
    +12
    Now let the words do not differ from the deeds.
    1. raw174
      raw174 5 December 2021 17: 56
      +18
      Quote: 1976AG
      Now let the words do not differ from the deeds.

      Well, it depends more on Russia. If the Russian Federation transfers the means to destroy drones, then the question of the use of the LDNR fighters will not be raised, they will be shot down.
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 5 December 2021 18: 03
        +11
        According to Denis, work to strengthen the LDNR air defense is underway and he promises to adequately respond to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Let's hope! smile
  3. SaLaR
    SaLaR 5 December 2021 17: 16
    +20
    Voentorg start working ..... We need to help the guys soldier
    1. Sandro1977
      Sandro1977 5 December 2021 18: 58
      +1
      It is necessary not only to destroy the drones, but also the operators of these drones, as terrorists
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 December 2021 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: SaLaR
      Voentorg start working ...

      Yes, he didn’t actually stop. yes
      1. SaLaR
        SaLaR 5 December 2021 20: 15
        +1
        Change the assortment a little ... for a more current one. As they say keeping up with the times ... Fashionable this season good
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2021 17: 20
    +4
    Good luck with this endeavor. To close the entire border, air defense means are needed not so little. Moreover, the level of the upgraded Shell or TOP. The air defense system should be centralized, and, especially for UAVs, with electronic warfare reinforcements. Uh ...
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 December 2021 02: 32
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      To close the entire border, air defense means are needed not so little. Moreover, the level of the upgraded Shell or TOP. The air defense system should be centralized, and, especially for UAVs, with electronic warfare reinforcements. Uh ...

      Forgot the main thing - to decide who will pay for the banquet.
      Weapon systems cost money, as it were.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 7 December 2021 06: 03
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Forgot the main thing - decide who will pay for the banquet

        Any doubts?
  5. Cron
    Cron 5 December 2021 17: 25
    -7
    The air defense of the Donetsk People's Republic will destroy Ukrainian drones

    A no-fly zone had to be declared there for a long time. Why bother the guys?
    1. isv000
      isv000 5 December 2021 21: 06
      -1
      Quote: Cron
      Why bother the guys?

      For this reason, the robots are straining so that we can see the peaceful sky above our heads! soldier
      1. Cron
        Cron 5 December 2021 21: 30
        -2
        Quote: isv000
        For this reason, the robots are straining so that we can see the peaceful sky above our heads!

        Well, our guys would have strained and created a no-fly zone over the LPNR. Instead, those with limited options tense.
        1. isv000
          isv000 5 December 2021 21: 51
          -3
          Quote: Cron
          Well, our guys would have strained and created a no-fly zone over the LPNR. Instead, those with limited options tense.

          It is possible, of course, to organize an air corridor for Belarusian transport workers - to carry the released S-300s to the LPNR - but this requires steel Fabergés and an operating runway ...hi
          1. Grits
            Grits 6 December 2021 14: 29
            0
            Quote: isv000
            but this requires steel faberges and an operating runway ...

            This requires steel fabergés at the current GDP
  6. Cron
    Cron 5 December 2021 17: 27
    +11
    but "Bayraktars" purchased in Turkey

    It is necessary to organize the supply of modern weapons to the Kurds. Weapons bought from Russia are no longer Russian
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 5 December 2021 17: 40
      +3
      Quote: Cron
      It is necessary to organize the supply of modern weapons to the Kurds

      This is a good idea, but I think it is not yet feasible, and not even because of unwillingness to spoil relations with Turkey, but because the Kurds are now walking under the Americans ...
      1. Fisherman
        Fisherman 5 December 2021 17: 46
        0
        The Iraqi Kurds are on their own ... and the Houthis will gladly raise the ante ... and the Cubans ... and the Nicaraguans ... and the 111 Friends of America Club!
        1. taiga2018
          taiga2018 5 December 2021 17: 59
          +6
          Quote: Fisherman
          The Iraqi Kurds are on their own.

          Nevertheless, supplying them with weapons bypassing any Iraqi government would not be entirely correct.
          Quote: Fisherman
          and Cubans ... and Nicaraguans

          Well, these are no longer the same irreconcilable Cubans and Nicaraguans, they also try to maneuver ...
          Quote: Fisherman
          and a club of 111 "friends" of America!

          Probably the only "real" friend is Iran, but here our leadership will not want to spoil relations with Israel, after all, the pro-Jewish lobby is strong not only in the United States, but also in our country ...
      2. Cron
        Cron 5 December 2021 17: 47
        -4
        Quote: taiga2018
        This is a good idea, but I think it is not yet feasible, and not even because of unwillingness to spoil relations with Turkey.

        Something Turkey does not particularly care about us.
        And what will they do? The Turks are now not in a position to have to bypass these sharp corners.
        but because the Kurds are now walking under the Americans

        Whoever helps them somehow, they walk by that. Sometimes they even accuse us that we cannot guarantee their safety and that we do not help in any way.
    2. raw174
      raw174 5 December 2021 17: 58
      +3
      Quote: Cron
      It is necessary to organize the supply of modern weapons to the Kurds.

      No, not supplies, but sales, and they have something to buy something more complicated than an RPG? And to supply everyone - the navel will be untied ...
      1. Cron
        Cron 5 December 2021 18: 02
        -4
        do they have something to buy something more complicated than an RPG?

        Many things
        Quote: raw174
        And to supply everyone - the navel will be untied ...

        Who is it all? We are not the Soviet Union, we have not pursued such a policy for a long time. Point only
      2. Bumblebee_3
        Bumblebee_3 5 December 2021 18: 19
        +2
        Brothers can be put like that. From this you personally will not become impoverished. This is for raw 174.
        1. raw174
          raw174 5 December 2021 18: 22
          +7
          Quote: Bumblebee_3
          Brothers can be put like that.

          Well, I don't know, the Kurds are not my brothers ...
          If you are talking about the LDNR, then I am in favor with both hands, they can be supplied for a symbolic bag of coal.
          1. Bumblebee_3
            Bumblebee_3 5 December 2021 18: 28
            +2
            Yes, buddy, raw174, exactly for the LDNR.
    3. isv000
      isv000 5 December 2021 22: 01
      0
      Quote: Cron
      It is necessary to organize the supply of modern weapons to the Kurds.

      The Kurds are like a weather vane and, therefore, for a start, let them return to the bosom of the state, it is possible even with autonomy, but completely controlled by the government of Syria - then they will not need weapons, otherwise they will sing this song forever ... negative
  7. askort154
    askort154 5 December 2021 17: 30
    0
    Work in progress .. .... Pushilin.

    How else ! Although, it was necessary to work earlier, when the Turks brought their first "super-duper" to Ukraine.
    But this is not your mistake. And now it's better later than never. I am sure that Turkish marketing to super-buyers will end in Donbass. They themselves provoke Russia to do this.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 5 December 2021 17: 34
      0
      Ukrainian zaslantsy on VO minus)
      1. askort154
        askort154 5 December 2021 17: 36
        +4
        Never mind, there are only two of them on duty today at VO. hi
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 5 December 2021 17: 37
          +1
          Yes, I’m nothing to take from them ..)
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 5 December 2021 17: 45
      +7
      So in the meantime, the OSCE observers were kicked out of the border in disgrace and this decision is not subject to discussion, for the edification that they look only in one direction.
  8. Runner2022
    Runner2022 5 December 2021 17: 40
    +1
    And is Ukraine thinking of winning the war against these people?) A doomed state, a doomed APU-army
  9. AVA77
    AVA77 5 December 2021 17: 47
    +2
    It happens, however, that a man shoots across the field, looks at the pieces of iron lying around, took a closer look, beeches in grease with BC.
    And most importantly, there are no Souls around. yes So I found it, I was lucky fellow
    1. poquello
      poquello 5 December 2021 18: 15
      +1
      Quote: AVA77
      It happens, however, that a man shoots across the field, looks at the pieces of iron lying around, took a closer look, beeches in grease with BC.
      And most importantly, there are no Souls around. yes So I found it, I was lucky fellow

      this is nanotechnology, he buried nuts in the right field, said "rex, fex, pex", and sprout depending on what they buried, there are beeches, shells, etc., science and no luck
    2. kytx
      kytx 5 December 2021 22: 50
      0
      Jemnip, an old lonely beech by itself, outside the air defense system, a bayraktar at an altitude of 8 km will not reach :(.
      In the godless Viki, heights of up to 25 km are indicated, but in what composition the beech can reach such a height is not indicated.
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 5 December 2021 23: 29
        0
        And what air defense system is missing from the beech?request
        1. kytx
          kytx 5 December 2021 23: 35
          0
          Total. In PM stationary radars, for example, and general data exchange. Read what a layered air defense / pro system is and everything will become clear to you.
          In general, it is strange to ask such questions on a military forum.
          1. AVA77
            AVA77 5 December 2021 23: 43
            +1
            The world is not without good people fellow Neighbors share data from their radars.
            In general, it is strange to ask such questions on a military forum. hi
          2. LZ50
            LZ50 7 December 2021 15: 14
            0
            in the Buka division everything is there: ACS, SOC and fire weapons. against a bayraktar, a layered system is not needed.
      2. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 6 December 2021 04: 10
        +2
        Quote: kytx
        Jemnip, an old lonely beech on its own outside the air defense system, a bayraktar at an altitude of 8 km will not reach

        Did you confuse the BUK with the Wasp for an hour. ? BUK cannot be alone, it is a complex of several machines 1-2 SOU 1 ROM 1 SOC. This is a minimum, so to speak. Yes, and at a height of 20 km it can easily beat
        1. kytx
          kytx 6 December 2021 04: 50
          0
          As far as I know, sow beech can shoot itself and it definitely has a radar. But not far and not high. I didn't confuse it with a wasp :)
          And beeches are so different.
          In general, the beech was created for action as part of an organization and not alone.

          And there are 5 types of machines can be included in the package.
          Well, the pavos will fix it if they are not too lazy :)
          1. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 6 December 2021 05: 21
            +1
            The SDA shoots both far and high. It just has a 120-degree radar viewing angle. By itself, it is almost never used for combat work. The only exception is shooting practice, when they know where to look. In general, the Sow radar is designed more for illuminating the indicated target for its missiles and ROM missiles, which does not have a locator. Instead, the paw of a manipulator. Well, yes, beeches always act as part of a unit, just as one howitzer does not fight by itself either. I served in 140 ZRBR in the first division. We consisted of three batteries, a command and control department and a logistics platoon. Each battery had 2 SDUs and 1 ROM. Obushniki have a KP car. SOC was one per division. The brigade also had a technical battalion, who delivered missiles to firing positions. Because on the march, cars go without missiles on the guides
            1. LZ50
              LZ50 7 December 2021 15: 34
              +2
              do not mislead people, the radar station is used in combat operations and has 2 channels: REVIEW and BACKLIGHT. O - search, tracking of targets, P - target illumination for RGS SAM.
              There are no paws and manipulators on the ROM, there is a lifting unit (crane) 9T321.
              In a combat situation on the march, I will move all vehicles charged, no one delivers missiles to firing positions! The missiles are loaded outside the firing position.
              1. Alexander Seklitsky
                Alexander Seklitsky 7 December 2021 17: 44
                0
                I wrote that it is more used for highlighting and target tracking than for independent search. Of course, if the coordinates arrive from the command post where to look, then the JMA will look there. But the information will come to the KP from the SOC.
                Quote: LZ50
                There are no paws and manipulators on the ROM, there is a lifting unit (crane) 9T321.

                Any manipulator is a lifting unit. The essence of this does not change.
                1. LZ50
                  LZ50 7 December 2021 20: 30
                  +1
                  you do not understand at all how the radar 9s35m1 works? the operating time of the "O" channel has always been greater than the operating time of the "P" channel, so do not bicker.
                  in IE ROM 9a39 and PS and BR, so the manipulator was written?
                  1. Alexander Seklitsky
                    Alexander Seklitsky 8 December 2021 08: 11
                    0
                    Why are you so boring. It is clear that technically the SDA also initially searches for a target, it just looks in the indicated direction. I originally wrote that sow does not search for a target alone.
                    1. LZ50
                      LZ50 8 December 2021 08: 16
                      0
                      not in the direction, but in the sector of responsibility and the SDU in hostilities will independently search for a target, then I already understood that you do not know the tactics of air defense of the ground forces and in technical training you are swimming.
              2. Alexander Seklitsky
                Alexander Seklitsky 7 December 2021 17: 51
                0
                Quote: LZ50
                In a combat situation on the march, I will move all vehicles charged, no one delivers missiles to firing positions! The missiles are loaded outside the firing position.

                Yes, of course. Installations themselves for reloading dangle from combat positions? wassat Unless absolutely necessary, no one with rockets on the guides will make their way, especially through the forest.
                1. LZ50
                  LZ50 7 December 2021 20: 32
                  +1
                  separation of missiles, consumption on the day of the battle - says anything about? if not, then everything is clear with you, even the fees will not help.
                  1. Alexander Seklitsky
                    Alexander Seklitsky 8 December 2021 04: 20
                    0
                    Quote: LZ50
                    consumption for the day of the battle - says anything?
                    no, your sofa theories don't tell me anything. I know how it is in reality, but in reality GMKs came to their positions, turned around. The technical battalion arrived, brought the missiles, loaded the installations. Fortunately, we have not yet had such conflicts when it would have been necessary to cover the transfer of armies in the face of enemy counterattacks. Therefore, in reality, no one knows how it will be. While there is positional use of these complexes
                    1. LZ50
                      LZ50 8 December 2021 07: 24
                      +1
                      clearly guarded the fleet of combat vehicles and saw the Buk from the tower. Do not know. GMK is a chassis. The technical battalion will never arrive at the starting position, the movement and operation of the crane with the 6th TM unmask the starting position of the battery.
                      You should have had - field exits, live firing on Emba, KapYar, where all this is practiced. Fortunately for you now there is YouTube and TK Zvezda, you can watch their latest videos from CapYar and think a little.

                      Well, the standard also includes loading launchers during this time. On paper lol
                      Although purely one SOU installation was charged in five minutes using a PZUushka. In theory, the technical battalion on the KrAZ trucks should follow in kolnna and quickly start loading the missiles. Although, of course, for short distances, I think it is possible to follow with rockets on the guides, but on flat terrain and not in a forest. For a rocket is a delicate thing. Shake her head off once or twice.

                      in 5 minutes it is not possible to physically charge the SOU with 4 rockets. And at the start of the rocket and in flight, nothing is shaken off?
                      1. Alexander Seklitsky
                        Alexander Seklitsky 8 December 2021 08: 34
                        0
                        Quote: LZ50
                        clearly guarded the fleet of combat vehicles and saw the Buk from the tower. Do not know.
                        By again. Yes, I was not an operator, but a material support platoon of the division. The driver and also the head of PES 100, which, in fact, was dragged by his Ural. The battalion in position was fed from him.
                        Quote: LZ50
                        Do not know. GMK is a chassis.

                        GMka is a slang term for the vehicles of the complex and is widely used in the military. This alone betrays you a theoretician, but not a practice in any way. You did not serve in the army. Otherwise you would know such a nuance.
                        Quote: LZ50
                        field exits, live shooting on Emba, KapYar

                        KapYaR 2006 summer Telemba 2007 spring
                        Quote: LZ50
                        where all this is worked out.

                        So I write as it was. KrAZ came and brought missiles.
                        Quote: LZ50
                        Fortunately for you now there is YouTube and TK Zvezda,

                        By the way, look at the star, so there is a transfer made in the USSR about the KUB complex. In particular, about deployment.
                      2. LZ50
                        LZ50 8 December 2021 08: 43
                        0
                        the driver discusses the tactics of the air defense of the SV fool
                        sleep practitioner in PES-100 will tell you how many ways to take the starting position with the battery?
                        in which compartment does ZNR-SO check the air pressure in the waveguide system of the 9s35m1 radar?
                      3. LZ50
                        LZ50 8 December 2021 08: 55
                        0
                        KapYaR 2006 summer Telemba 2007 spring

                        WMO does not enter the battlefield during firing, it is understandable why you do not understand how the technical battalion transfers missiles to the battalion.
                      4. Alexander Seklitsky
                        Alexander Seklitsky 8 December 2021 09: 06
                        0
                        Quote: LZ50
                        the driver discusses the tactics of the air defense of the SV
                        What position and military rank can I ask?
                        Quote: LZ50
                        sleep practice in PES-100

                        Have you ever been there inside lol Even deaf from birth will not be able to sleep under the roaring YaMZ 238 laughing
                        Quote: LZ50
                        how many ways can the battery take the starting position?

                        It all depends on the tasks being performed.
                      5. LZ50
                        LZ50 8 December 2021 09: 15
                        0
                        the first is a cadet, the second is NR SOU 9a310m1 and further ...
                        I have been, and there is not a YaMZ-238, but an in-line diesel 1D6VB is worth it. You can sleep even when the operator is working in the compartment, it is checked.
                        do not know.
                      6. Alexander Seklitsky
                        Alexander Seklitsky 8 December 2021 09: 39
                        0
                        I didn’t have a YaMZ, probably over time the old diesel engines were scrapped. And the yamzes are being put on many stations now. Atmospheric cars on a hundred square meters, with a turbine for 200 kah. Although it’s still a brittle ram .. And there was no operator compartment. And actually there’s no time. The consumable tank is small, you don’t pump it over in time. Zampotech would make you run with a tank cable lol
                      7. LZ50
                        LZ50 8 December 2021 09: 58
                        0
                        I had such a PES, swing doors to the operator's compartment, side doors to the engine compartment.

          2. LZ50
            LZ50 7 December 2021 15: 17
            0
            SOU 9a310m1 is capable of conducting autonomous combat work, not far and not high = 22 km in height and 32 in range. In the complex, the efficiency of the SOU increases
      3. military_cat
        military_cat 6 December 2021 08: 46
        0
        Quote: kytx
        but in what composition the beech can reach such a height is not specified

        Because the maximum height does not depend on the composition of the system, but on the energy characteristics of the rocket. And the amount of fuel in the rocket does not decrease due to the transition of the SOU to autonomous mode.
        1. kytx
          kytx 6 December 2021 10: 59
          0
          The rocket is the same. The question is how and when the target is detected and how it is highlighted.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 6 December 2021 12: 16
            0
            The target is always highlighted from the 9S35 radar (self-propelled launcher's own radar). This means that the target must be previously detected by the 9C35 and taken for tracking with the help of the 9C35. The difference is that in the autonomous search mode, the 9S35 scans the 6 × 120 deg sector, and as part of the division, as directed from the command post (based on the SOC data), it searches for a target in the 6 × 10 deg sector. In any case, the target can be fired on only if it is detected, taken for tracking and illuminated by the radar of the SDU, and nothing else (the SDU illuminates the target for itself and for the ROM attached to it).
            1. kytx
              kytx 6 December 2021 12: 28
              0
              The target can be detected by a completely different radar. I won't argue about the backlight, I don't know much about the question, but it seems like another radar can illuminate.
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 6 December 2021 12: 38
                0
                As for the backlight, it cannot. There is no such targeted channel. There are only two of them: SOU → SAM and SOU → ROM → SAM. In this case, you can switch to the backlight only after detection (where detection is understood in the technical sense - the presence of a distinguishable reflected signal).
                1. kytx
                  kytx 6 December 2021 13: 03
                  0
                  OK. Then the question.
                  Conflict 888
                  Turkish stationary radar scanned our la over Georgia. This allowed the Georgian air defense systems not to work in an active mode, and not to be fired to the last.
                  And they turned on the radar of the air defense system at the last moment, so that it was already certain.

                  By the way, for some reason, the Russian Federation did not endure tightly about Georgia. Although there was an opportunity.

                  5 days after the end of the conflict, Georgia demonstratively turned on its entire air defense system in an active mode, thereby demonstrating something ...
                  1. military_cat
                    military_cat 6 December 2021 13: 09
                    0
                    I doubt that it happened exactly as described. You can give target designation to the SDU, but this is not the same as "highlight la". This means to indicate the sector in which, at the right moment, after switching on, the SDA will quickly find a target, take it for tracking, highlight and fire.
                    1. kytx
                      kytx 6 December 2021 13: 40
                      0
                      Well, yes. You can see the airy environment. And your radars are waiting for the moment
                2. LZ50
                  LZ50 7 December 2021 15: 20
                  +2
                  This is a special mode of operation in Buka: "alien illumination", the target is accompanied and fired upon by SDA # 1, illuminated with SDA # 2.
                  1. military_cat
                    military_cat 7 December 2021 16: 36
                    +1
                    Yes, thanks, missed this point. Indeed, there is such a regime when two LDAs work in tandem.
      4. LZ50
        LZ50 7 December 2021 15: 12
        0
        get it - the affected area is from 15m. up to 22 km in height and from 3 km to 32 in range search sector 120 by 6 degrees. If in a complex, then everything is simpler, faster and more efficient.
  10. Fisherman
    Fisherman 5 December 2021 17: 53
    -8
    This means the transfer of the fight against aircraft to / over the territory of the Ruin. In fact Casus Bailey. Well, that means IT'S TIME TO START RELEASE!
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 5 December 2021 18: 03
      +1
      The Jews over there are ironing out both Syria and Iran, and no incidents like that do not bother them at all.
  11. expert
    expert 5 December 2021 18: 06
    -1
    It is high time to resolutely and effectively defend the sky of the Republic!
  12. Vadim237
    Vadim237 5 December 2021 18: 21
    +5
    And what will the LDNR shoot them down with when they fly 8000.
    1. expert
      expert 5 December 2021 18: 31
      -1
      I think that no one will be surprised if these are modern air defense systems in service with Russia.
    2. Momento
      Momento 5 December 2021 19: 22
      +1
      p-27 most likely. and you can start without flying in.
    3. poquello
      poquello 5 December 2021 20: 24
      -1
      Quote: Vadim237
      And what will the LDNR shoot them down with when they fly 8000.

      You ask some questions, how straight the dill is when the corridor for civilians is not closed,
      "Lender's 76-mm anti-aircraft gun, on the other hand, was the main anti-aircraft gun until the mid-30s. In 1928, the gun was modernized: the barrel length was increased to 55 calibers, which made it possible to increase the muzzle velocity to 730 m / s. The target hitting altitude reached 8000 m, and the rate of fire was 10-12 rds / min. The gun was produced until 1934. As of June 22, 1941, the troops had 539 76-mm units. anti-aircraft guns mod. 1914/15 Lender system and 19 pcs. 76 mm anti-aircraft guns mod. 1915/28 g. "
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 5 December 2021 18: 24
    +1
    DPR head promised to shoot down Ukrainian drones, including Bayraktars
    ... They want to shoot down, this is pon, it is ... and with what?
    Any low flying trifle, they can get it, but what flies higher, a bullet from a distance, how will they shoot down?
    1. Momento
      Momento 5 December 2021 19: 23
      +2
      aircraft missile not flying. roughly like israel.
  14. Azis
    Azis 5 December 2021 18: 28
    -2
    (Republic Air Defense) ...will destroy Ukrainian drones, including Bayraktars ...
    и
    currently in the republic modernization work is underway Donetsk air defense, are being developed means for neutralizing drones, including drums made in Turkey
    Something after the event with EdR, everything is transferred to the future. Turkish aircraft models are not available to the existing air defense?
  15. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 5 December 2021 18: 30
    +3
    I don't really believe Pushilin. Repeatedly he stated that the batteries firing at the DPR would be destroyed. The shelling continues almost every day, and we rarely hear about the "otvetki". I can assume that things will be the same with air defense. There was a proposal to sell air defense weapons to the Kurds. But then with the condition of mandatory resale in the LPNR.
    1. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 5 December 2021 20: 35
      +3
      Of course you don’t, because this is a reason to stink at the Republics and Russia.

      But there is a response, and quite often.
  16. Evgeny Chukgekov
    Evgeny Chukgekov 5 December 2021 18: 41
    0
    It is good to shoot down bayraktar, but to unite Russia, Ukraine and Donbass together. and create a joint economy capable of making people happy ... no one can do it ... and what potential they would live and not fuss ... and feed half of the world
  17. Cyop_TyMyc
    Cyop_TyMyc 5 December 2021 18: 56
    +12
    If Zakharchenko, Givi, Motorola, Brain, Batman would have been shot down long ago ...

    Kingdom of Heaven to brothers!
  18. usr01
    usr01 5 December 2021 19: 05
    +3
    "To promise is not to marry ..." (c)
    No need to promise. We must shoot down.
  19. Cyop_TyMyc
    Cyop_TyMyc 5 December 2021 19: 26
    +2
    At least two Sky-M early warning radars are needed to the borders of the republics, and there to give target designation to the Pantsir and TOR air defense systems. The new modification of the "shell" hits an altitude of up to 15 km.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 5 December 2021 21: 33
      +3
      Quote: Cyop_TyMyc
      At least two Sky-M early warning radars are needed to the borders of the republics, and there to give target designation to the Pantsir and TOR air defense systems. The new modification of the "shell" hits an altitude of up to 15 km.


      Unfortunately, it doesn't help much. If Thor - the shell will work in a constant mode, they will sacrifice their deployment, they will purposefully try to destroy them. For example, an MLRS strike or point U, some kind of high-precision ammunition or something specially sharpened for guidance on the radar. If you turn it on for a short time, then almost the same. In the off state, an easy target will also be detected during a targeted search.

      Air defense will not last long without active defense.

      Although something needs to be done.

      Probably you need something like a container mobile complex (with a higher height than MANPADS) with the possibility of passive guidance or external target designation.

      The truck drove out of the underground garage, fired off the rocket and drove back. Where the target data, coordinates, altitude, direction, speed were obtained from is unknown.

      But there is no such thing.
      1. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 6 December 2021 04: 16
        0
        Air defense missile systems can receive target designation from the outside from a radar station inaccessible from a strike, and their radars cannot be illuminated until the moment of launch
  20. svoit
    svoit 5 December 2021 19: 33
    +3
    ... "Bayraktars" purchased in Turkey do not fly close to the demarcation line for fear of being shot down
    that is, the Republics do not yet have the means to shoot them down there? But the range of their missiles allows them to hit targets
  21. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 5 December 2021 19: 47
    +7
    Damn, already decide whether there was a gopher. Sorry, bayraktar. And then whole programs were released to refute the fact that he was on federal channels. And now the head of the DPR again says that he was. In my opinion, you cannot imagine a more favorable assessment of this event for Ukraine. Some kind of throwing with attempts to cover up an incident that is not beneficial for oneself. It's like putting on black glasses after a fight. Instead of starting negotiations on the supply of adequate air defense, well, to draw the attention of the world community to a direct violation of the Minsk agreements, and in the event of a second, to promise to protect the civilian population. And they will not say how they will do it. Instead, they cover the actions of "partners"
    1. notingem
      notingem 5 December 2021 20: 18
      -1
      Abstruse vocabulary
      1. TerraSandera
        TerraSandera 6 December 2021 01: 26
        0
        Say at least a phrase that carries a semantic load.
  22. dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 5 December 2021 20: 15
    0
    The supply of air defense systems from South Ossetia or Abkhazia will solve the problem of Turkish UAVs immediately and for a long time. Does sovereign Abkhazia have the right to sell weapons? Maybe. Sanctions? Please. Formalities are met. Rest? Go through the forest ...
    1. Astronomy
      Astronomy 5 December 2021 21: 45
      -1
      Quote: dmmyak40
      Does sovereign Abkhazia have the right to sell weapons?

      It is not recognized by the world. Only Russia and everyone understands what it is. This will be enough for sanctions for the manufacturer (which will not be very good for the same Almaz Antey)
      An article about the former MMMshchik, now an edrosovtsa, who should be closer to the people (Medvedev). Going to shoot down vehicles that may not cross the contact line. Everything relies on "mines" (Voentorg).
      However, he is a politician, all the more so with the EP .. these should talk a lot ... Promise. promise promise.
      Note that flights of unmanned aircraft in the area of ​​the contact line are prohibited, except for the OSCE UAV. However, Kiev does not intend to abide by the Minsk agreements, so it does not pay attention to the bans. The OSCE has so far failed to react to the use of Bayraktar in Donbas.

      so UAVs are used by everyone. Photos for example of downed Forposts and Eagles are enough. Even helicopter pilots were involved. Small commercial vogues are not even considered.
      Minsk agreements - clause 7
      "The ban ... of flights of military aircraft and foreign unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), with the exception of UAVs used by the OSCE monitoring (observation) mission, along the entire contact line of the parties in the zone of cessation of the use of weapons at a width of at least 30 km," the document says. (though these are the first MCs)
      All of them are used with combat and reconnaissance, but they blame the enemy for this.
      And they accuse the OSCE of working for the enemy!
      In general, that is still a ball. So Everybody's Lying (Dr. House)
      1. dmmyak40
        dmmyak40 6 December 2021 00: 06
        0
        Syria is also not recognized by the United States and hangers-on. Yes, dad is also called "self-proclaimed". Aren't sanctions imposed on Almaz-Antey? If I am not mistaken, some time after the shooting down of the Malaysian Boeing. Yes, these sanctions were not so terrible. Anyone who wants to take Almaz's products from us knows what they are doing.
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  23. Karabin
    Karabin 5 December 2021 21: 28
    0
    As long as they keep a safe distance. But at any opportunity "Bayraktars" will be destroyed
    - stressed the head of the DPR.

    Pushilin can emphasize anything, but it is not he who decides to shoot down or not. As well as the question of what to bring down. Those who decide are unhurried people, not sitting in trenches, not amenable to provocations and considering the Minsk agreements uncontested, even if the dill does not comply with them.
    The OSCE has so far failed to react to the use of Bayraktar in Donbas.
    Eka is unseen. They will react favorably, but not profitably. The OSCE is an instrument of the West and there is no need to expect any objectivity there. On the part of the DPR and Russia, there is some kind of masochism in cooperation with this organization.
  24. Sergey Obraztsov
    Sergey Obraztsov 5 December 2021 21: 41
    0
    Certain developments are the warehouses of the Russian Federation, if someone does not understand. There are no other options. Although I would have agreed with the Turks on the acquisition of their MANPADS (though I was never interested in what is there and how Turkey has in terms of its developments). It would be funny.
  25. Newven
    Newven 5 December 2021 23: 51
    -1
    The main thing is not to make empty promises.
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 6 December 2021 02: 45
    -3
    DPR head promised to shoot down Ukrainian drones, including Bayraktars
    Have you bought battle slingshots, Fluffy? lol
  27. kytx
    kytx 6 December 2021 05: 43
    0
    [quote =. Because on the march cars go without missiles on the guides [/ quote]
    Uhhh ....
    But what about deployment in 5 minutes? sad
    1. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 6 December 2021 11: 03
      0
      Well, the standard also includes loading launchers during this time. On the paper lol
      Although purely one SOU installation was charged in five minutes using a PZUushka. In theory, the technical battalion on the KrAZ trucks should follow in kolnna and quickly start loading the missiles. Although, of course, for short distances, I think it is possible to follow with rockets on the guides, but on flat terrain and not in a forest. For a rocket is a delicate thing. Shake her head off once or twice.
      1. kytx
        kytx 6 December 2021 11: 37
        0
        thanks for the clarifications
        1. LZ50
          LZ50 7 December 2021 15: 37
          +1
          this comrade misinforms you.
  28. sgr291158
    sgr291158 6 December 2021 07: 22
    +1
    You don't need to promise, you just need to knock down.
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    1. Nag1984
      Nag1984 6 December 2021 14: 29
      0
      Well, Haftar from the Libyan slingshot shot a lot of bairaks.
  30. Nag1984
    Nag1984 6 December 2021 14: 27
    0
    The tunnellers to the "Toram" in the mine made their way, now it's up to a little to get to the surface)
  31. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 December 2021 09: 00
    0
    Yes, for God's sake, who can forbid? The main thing is to have something. good