American edition: Ukraine will soon receive a batch of 24 Bayraktar UAVs from Turkey

It became known that Ukraine will soon receive a new batch of Turkish Bayraktar drones. According to the latest information, we are talking about a batch of 24 units of such reconnaissance and strike drones. The American information service "Bloomberg" reports that Ankara has agreed on the supply of such a number of UAVs.

According to American journalists, representatives of a Turkish company producing drones "are in close cooperation with the leadership of Ukraine." These contacts made it possible to sign a new agreement, on the basis of which the Armed Forces of Ukraine will become the owners of the Bayraktar TB2 party "in the near future."

It is noteworthy that Bloomberg writes about the delivery of Bayraktars to Kiev as "giving Ankara more opportunities to influence Moscow." Noteworthy is the following information in the American edition:

According to sources, Ukraine received significantly more UAVs from Turkey than was reported in official releases.

This information appeared in the American media against the background of a telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan. In this conversation, among other things, the question of the use of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of the Bayraktar drone in the Donbass was raised and the fact that Kiev continues to evade the implementation of the Minsk agreements. The Turkish press, reacting to this, again raised the topic that "Turkey cannot be responsible for the process of using drones, since after the sale to Kiev, they become not Turkish, but Ukrainian." The responsibility for the application, as it is emphasized, lies with the Ukrainian side, and the Turkish side, again, as they emphasize in Ankara, does not violate anything with such a sale, since there are no bans on supplies to Ukraine weapons no.

Comments

[Momento]

who could expect something else from the Turks ... a normal partnership. but not surprising.

but a miracle will not become a weapon - it will be enough for a couple of days of hostilities. unless of course the base stations cover immediately.

[Asad]

We got it already with this ,, wunderwolf ,,! Hopefully the DPR already has a reliable antidote in store!

[Serg Kam]

De juro Turks are absolutely in their rightness.
They can sell weapons to any country that is not embargoed.
Another question is how can we answer this? Declare war on tomatoes again?

[skif8013]

Quote: SergKam

De juro Turks are absolutely in their rightness.
They can sell weapons to any country that is not embargoed.
Another question is how can we answer this? Declare war on tomatoes again?

I think it is necessary to Turkish neighbors (for example, the Syrians) to sell a couple of dozen good rocket. And they say they are now Syrian, not Russian)

[Serg Kam]

I think it is necessary to Turkish neighbors (for example, the Syrians) to sell a couple of dozen good rocket.

You late.
We have been selling weapons to Syria for many years (decades).

[Fungus]

It is enough to supply the militia with air defense equipment and arrange a bayraktaropad.

[Vadim237]

Only Armor and Torah can effectively fight these drones, and all air defense systems higher in the MANPADS class.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

There are Turkish military in Syria .. Someone can accidentally bomb them.

[Serg Kam]

There are Turkish military in Syria .. Someone can accidentally bomb them.

Maybe, of course.
But it is not worth considering the Turks as Downs. They can knock this "someone" down perfectly, which, by the way, they have already done.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Nobody considers them downs. It must be "accidentally and carefully"

[Dikson]

And in Turkey, they can even kill Ambassador Rossi by accident. and - nothing, except blowing bubbles, it will not cause .. What can we say about ordinary pilots and soldiers .... If only our leadership did not run out of markers, draw all sorts of red and other lines .. And Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan will always be able to resell Turkish tomatoes to us ..- they seem to be close relatives with the Turks now ..

[Thrifty]

More tourists to Turkey! Give a second NPP at the expense of the Russian taxpayer! And, most importantly, draw a new red line with a very thick pencil, menacingly frowning !!!!!!!!!

[Geofiz]

In general, I am in ah ... with the fact that we are building a nuclear power plant in Turkey on credit, and with the transfer of technology, there are simply no words ... yes, but these all draw lines, such friends, for .... yes to the museum .. ...

[Lord]

It is possible to sell to Cyprus and Greece some missiles, air defense systems for a cheap price. Or offer mediation in the settlement of a dispute in Cyprus. But the Kremlin is too cowardly for such moves

[FrankyStein]

To give the Kurds MANPADS. They are also not under the embargo. How Erdogan will scream.

[Serg Kam]

Give the Kurds MANPADS. They are also not under the embargo.

Remind the moment when the Kurds had their own state recognized at least by Russia?

[From Tomsk]

With one hand, Erdogan holds the receiver with Putin's voice, and with the other he signs a memorandum on the construction of the Bayraktar Machine plant in Ukraine's Vasilkovo.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: From Tomsk

a memorandum on the construction of the Bayraktar Machine plant in Ukrainian Vasilkov.

My aunt lived there. And now - a plant for the production of priblud, killing Russians ... Eh, "relatives", your mother ...

[Dikson]

This is an obvious next achievement of Russian foreign policy .. And behind all the talk about Russian-Turkish friendship, cocoa people forget that Turkey is a NATO member, and on Injerlik, American nuclear bombs can just as easily appear, which can only fly to Russia. nothing .. And where to go now? We ourselves have tied contracts and pipelines to the Turks ... - now we are using Turkish kindness and generosity ..

[Cotton Colorado]

Quote: Dikson

This is an obvious next achievement of Russian foreign policy .. And behind all the talk about Russian-Turkish friendship, cocoa they forget that Turkey is a NATO member, and on Injerlik, American nuclear bombs can just as easily appear, to whom to fly to Russia, then nothing at all .. But where to go now? We ourselves have tied contracts and pipelines to the Turks ... - now we are using Turkish kindness and generosity ..

Nuclei-loaves have been kept on Injerlik for a long time

[Zoldat_A]

This information appeared in the American media against the background of a telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Recep Erdogan. In this conversation, among other things, the question was raised of the use of the Armed Forces of the UAV "Bayraktar" in the Donbass

I will repeat my comment, which I made a few days ago ..

And Vaska listens, but eats ...

[askort154]

From my boyhood years I remember the popular expression - "never turn your back on a Turk."

[Murmur 55]

Is it worth believing this very media? It is possible to throw in to look at the reaction of both Turkey and Russia, especially since there was just a conversation between Putin and Erdogan, and then there is a hop and a new party, it may be worth waiting for deliveries or refutation.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Murmur 55

just there was a conversation between Putin and Erdogan, and here is a hop and a new party, it may be worth waiting for deliveries or refutation.

Most likely, there will be supplies, and most likely not only these 24 pieces. Bayraktar is Erdogan's family feeder. Most likely, the agreements are as follows - let him earn, it will come to serious applications, we will just land everything, including base stations. This letak is promoted not childishly and it is immediately obvious, which means for sales. But exactly what is promoted - in reality for us does not pose a serious threat

[Vladimir61]

Quote: NDR-791

Most likely supplies will be ...

There will be! The Turks want to build a plant and get technology from Ukraine for the production of missiles. We are talking about Zenit-2, and this is already a real threat to Russia in the not too distant future.

[donavi49]

Well, there is a contract. In total, about 60 UAVs have been ordered. They will be supplied - this is logical.

[askort154]

According to the latest information, we are talking about a batch of 24 units of such reconnaissance and strike drones.

They decided to change the tactics of the civil war in Donbass, by the "bayraktars" steamed up in Karabakh. To bomb without flying into the territory, allegedly without violating the "Minsk agreements". I hope the "north wind" will correct this show and dispel the myth about the omnipotence of the UAV.

[Ros 56]

Uh-huh, glass for fools for a while.

[Ruslan Yamaltdinov]

Iskanders to highlight Kurds for the Ottomans!

[Serega1]

As soon as the drones arrive and are tested, Ukraine will begin to seize Donbass at night, get ready. The plans have long been developed, half of the Ukrainian army is in the east and is waiting for the beginning of the offensive to complete a haircut - a batch of drones.

The offensive will begin at night, the tanks will quickly take up positions without fading. Attention will be distracted by the bombing of objects so that the militias do not burn down the beginning of the operation, but think that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are playing around again. Everything will be quiet, lightning fast. The idea is to occupy the city, the Russian army will not shoot, because not only from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also the inhabitants of Donbass will die, for this calculation.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Well, if they want to step on a rake, like ours in the terrible '95, then let them. At night on tanks in the city on the march? It's funny. Yes, and an unmanned aerial vehicle will not help in any way. They will get bogged down in the city and receive coverage in the boiler. Well, ours will not be left on the sidelines either. A bayraktar is just a tarantay and nothing more. It is important that his weapon, and it costs money. Each rocket is not sour.

[Mountain shooter]

Turkey has received 2011 such UAVs since 107. How many of them do they produce per year, so that such parties, 24 pcs.
deliver in a short time?

[Dikson]

So the Turks will sell their own ... business ... They will lease it., So to speak ... And then - we do not know how many Bayraktar a month are produced by Turkish slipways?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Dikson

And then - we do not know how many Bayraktars are produced by Turkish slipways per month.

Yes, not as much as the Turks would like. I did not find data on the annual release anywhere. But even if 50 pieces / year, a batch of 24 pieces is a lot. Ukraine is not the only buyer in the world.

[donavi49]

They rolled out 4 Akinchi.

What is the difficulty in assembling TV2? There should be more volumes. This year the Turkmen got them. Plus additional supplies to Aliyev.

[grandfather_Kostya]

According to sources, Ukraine received significantly more UAVs from Turkey than was reported in official releases.

Inspired: "He asked me for 100 rubles, and I screwed him 400!" (A.S. Griboyedov "The Inspector General")

[TermNachTer]

I'm embarrassed to ask - where are the engines from? After Austria imposed a ban on the supply of engines. It is clear that a certain amount was in the warehouses, but there are no new ones and will not be available in the near future. The engines should be kept for a more necessary occasion.

[Dikson]

By the way - about our UAVs -
"Outpost" is a licensed copy of the IMI Searcher product of the Israeli company Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI).
- user-programmable gate array Spartan XC3550 of the American company "Xilinx";
- elements of the fuel system from the Irish company "Tillotson";
- GPS antenna of the American company "Antcom";
- navigation modules of the Swiss manufacturer "MicroEM";
- dynamic measuring unit (DMU02 or DMU10 - depending on the UAV year of manufacture), produced by the British company "Silicon Sensing Systems";
- radio frequency module 9XTend 900 MHz, produced by the American company "Digi International";
- network controller iEthernet W5300, manufactured by the Korean company "WIZnet";
- GNSS receiver NV08C-CSM of the American company NVS Technologies AG.
Somehow, too, its own, which has no analogues, Russian, is not enough, do not you find?

[TermNachTer]

So now almost any, a little bit complex product - a designer crazy pens. But I speak for a detail, without which the unit will not fly. Is the engine also imported at the "outpost"?

[donavi49]

About engines:
- there are no problems with Ukraine, or rather the engines will be supplied there, even if Bayraktar is imposed with sanctions of the DPRK level. You yourself must understand.
- engine sanctions are generally comical as much as possible. Rotax 912 and 914 are the most common engines in the world in this class. You can buy them even on Aliexpress. I am already silent that in Turkey, Qatar, Pakistan they are building small aircraft (100% civilian) with this engine.

Well, it's as if Intel imposed sanctions on the supply of I5 / I7 / I9 processors to state-owned companies in Russia.

[TermNachTer]

These are Ukrainian engines on Akinchi. On Bayraktar - Austrian "rotex". Austrian women stopped supplying back in 2019. And the resource is not endless. And put on new ones and change on old ones.

[donavi49]

And now read what I wrote again. If that Orion was not supplied with Rotax914s either, and this did not prevent the entire experimental batch from flying with them.

[TermNachTer]

I do not dispute that the batch was purchased. But the party is not endless. It's one thing, an official contract, with precisely specified rights and obligations of the parties. It is quite another to take somewhere, semi-underground, of incomprehensible quality.

[donavi49]

Firstly, it is not a fact that the ban is still valid. Perhaps already removed.
Second, each export contract is individual for the purchase. For example, Zorya installed turbines on Talvary. Or do you think that the Austrians will break the contract with Poland, for example?

Third, getting the engine with all the docks is easy. Yes, the recipient will be for Baikar, and another company with an aircraft repair or construction license. The same Persian Shahid129 annually hand over 20-30 cars, and when they lose them in accidents and battles (Iraq / Syria), they suddenly find the original Rotax914 in the wreckage. And there are sanctions for such products, which are necessary sanctions with a real risk of getting a ban from the United States in the main sales market.

[Vadim237]

Ukrainian manufactures Motor Sich AI 450 will be installed on Akinchi

[riwas]

American edition: Ukraine will soon receive a batch of 24 Bayraktar UAVs from Turkey

We need to hint Erdagan that in return we can supply drones to the Kurds.

[Alexfly]

There is no Air Force, but the army of drones, then they will learn to sculpt and use themselves ... How will we fight off annoying flies? A fly swatter? I would like it to be effective and in sufficient quantity, and not two per 100 km ...