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Russian generals will be able to serve longer

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Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a bill to extend the service life of senior officers. Russian generals, admirals and marshals will now be able to serve longer if the need arises.


The new law has been published on the official website of legal information.

The document provides for an increase in the service life limit for army generals, admirals fleet and marshals of the Russian Federation. Such decisions under the new law, which is an amendment to the Federal Law "On conscription and military service," the head of state has the right to make in each specific case. He now, at his own discretion, sets the period for which a contract is signed with one or another senior officer.

The initiator of the bill was Vladimir Putin.

Prior to this, the law established the maximum service life of generals, admirals and marshals, which was 65 years. But with these servicemen it was possible to conclude a contract extending their stay in the ranks of the Armed Forces for another five years. Now the legislation allows them to be in the service even after reaching a more respectable age.

Andrei Kartapolov, head of the Defense Committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, spoke positively about this legislative initiative. He noted that now experienced high-ranking officers will be able to remain in the service, contributing to the strengthening of the country's defense capability.

At the same time, not all experts, discussing the legislative innovation, agree with this argument. Thus, it is noted that raising the age limit for representatives of the generals in office can close the way to the command staff for younger and no less talented officers. It is noted that after the adoption of a new legislative initiative, the highest command staff in Russia may in fact remain "without young blood" for years. How effective this is for the army and the country's security in a rapidly changing environment is an open question.
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  1. RUSS
    RUSS 29 November 2021 15: 54
    +26
    Zero governors, zero officers, who's next?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 29 November 2021 15: 59
      +6
      Who's next? It's even scary to suppose people?
      1. astepanov
        astepanov 29 November 2021 16: 38
        +22
        Ha, this is even more interesting. You will have to serve up to a hundred years! I quote:
        Prior to this, the law established the maximum service life of generals, admirals and marshals, which was 65 years. But with these servicemen it was possible to conclude a contract extending their stay in the ranks of the Armed Forces for another five years. Now the legislation allows them to be in the service even after reaching a more respectable age.

        So, according to the author, we are not talking about the age limit, but about the service life! If, say, a lieutenant graduates from a military school at 22, then he could then serve for another 65 years, i.e. up to 87 years old. After that, he could extend the contract for another 5 years, i.e. up to 92 years old. And finally, he can now legally pull the strap up to 100 or more. This is what life-giving medicine does!
        But that's not all. Since we have 25-year-old Major Generals in our army, can you imagine what ranks and ranks they will achieve by the age of XNUMX? Although, perhaps I'm wrong: by this age, they can lose specific fighting skills.
        PS For not understanding the difference in retirement age and service life, the author is responsible, not me.
        1. AUL
          AUL 29 November 2021 19: 02
          -2
          Quote: astepanov
          Ha, this is even more interesting. You will have to serve up to a hundred years!

          And let them serve! Only on condition of passing a psychological and psychiatric examination 2 - 4 times a year!
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 29 November 2021 23: 14
            +2
            "... Lieutenant Lukasz took a bite of the mouthpiece out of anger.
            - The old man is completely mad, - they all decided. - Now it's over. Now he will be transferred to the War Department. "(C)
            Nothing new under the sun.
          2. for
            for 30 November 2021 05: 33
            +2
            Quote: AUL
            Only on condition of passing a psychological and psychiatric examination

            And if an expert is 90 or he really loves money.
            1. Yurahip
              Yurahip 30 November 2021 08: 31
              +3
              Serve twice as much and wear bellies twice as large! Kozhugetich as an example!
    2. Anachoret
      Anachoret 29 November 2021 16: 14
      +22
      Then generals' races on golden hearses will follow))
      Young officers need to be moved, blood and thinking should be refreshed)
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 29 November 2021 16: 21
        +10
        - On the carriages! The generals are all ...
      2. Charlie
        Charlie 29 November 2021 16: 22
        +6
        Yeah. How many of these old ones can you keep in the service.
        1. Clear
          Clear 29 November 2021 16: 32
          +5
          Quote: Charlie
          Yeah. How many of these old ones can you keep in the service.

          I wonder who they will command then. I don’t know in the Armed Forces, but in the power structures the shortage is off scale, and Kolokoltsov is sleeping on the move ... with a huge star on his shoulder straps
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 29 November 2021 16: 56
            -3
            Quote: Clear
            Quote: Charlie
            Yeah. How many of these old ones can you keep in the service.

            I wonder who they will command then. I don’t know in the Armed Forces, but in the power structures the shortage is off scale, and Kolokoltsov is sleeping on the move ... with a huge star on his shoulder straps

            hi
            I think they are beginning to understand this and intend to unite all the power structures, maybe not into one, as earlier the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs included prisons, and the investigation, and the Internal Troops, and the fire brigade, and licensing and permitting work ..., but even in two or three ... Otherwise, the budget will not pull.
            1. Azis
              Azis 29 November 2021 18: 42
              +2
              They do not start and do not intend to. Structures have been fragmented and will continue to be fragmented. Using the example of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - small-town (regional, about the republic is a separate topic) ATCs now have the ATC of the regional center (also essentially a general's position), the FMS, UBNON, UGIBDD, and the head of the ATC can now have more big stars. The recent allocations of the Internal Affairs Directorate, in the form of non-departmental guards, all sorts of SOBR, LRS, OMON, military units, were transferred to the UFSVNG for the subject - even generals (although earlier the Internal Troops were subordinate to the district command). Plus the Federal Penitentiary Service, the Ministry of Emergency Situations ... Even in customs, in ours, for example, there is a major general of the customs service, in all parameters of benefits equated to the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Emergencies. Generals multiply and multiply, but since according to this law some will remain in their posts - new departments, posts, etc. will be invented under the new generals. (for example - the governor-general? There are no direct elections anyway.)
          2. for
            for 30 November 2021 05: 40
            +3
            Quote: Clear
            but in the power structures the shortage is off scale,

            Another -8!
            Rosgvardia generals suspected of embezzling hundreds of millions of rubles
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner 29 November 2021 18: 36
          -3
          To load with work according to official duties, and for idleness, for NSS to tear like a sidor's goat. They themselves will run away to retire.
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 29 November 2021 19: 15
            +8
            Yes SCHAZ. Show at least one general who himself fled to retire from a bread place. They will sit in office until the last, and more than once they will ask to extend the service life.

            They can escape only if they smell "fried", but this is a different scenario.
      3. fruc
        fruc 29 November 2021 17: 25
        +4
        .... Now the legislation allows them to be in the service even after reaching a more respectable age.

        We don't live so much. Probably the carpet generals of the Arbat fortified area will be very pleased.
      4. lis-ik
        lis-ik 29 November 2021 18: 09
        +3
        Quote: Anchorite
        Then generals' races on golden hearses will follow))
        Young officers need to be moved, blood and thinking should be refreshed)

        But who will give them to move, when there are faithful and their own, albeit stupid, but executive.
      5. Prisoner
        Prisoner 29 November 2021 18: 45
        -1
        The young were always moved. Even with the "forever young" Politburo. The truth is more and more not thanks to talents, but thanks to the "right" DNA. I don't think much has changed. Although the "correct" DNA is now more and more in business, they are not interested in such a profession - to defend the Motherland.
    3. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 29 November 2021 16: 16
      +11
      Quote: RUSS
      Zero governors, zero officers, who's next?

      The next will be those who fully support the policy of the party and personally Mr. President.
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 29 November 2021 16: 21
        -5
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        The next will be those who fully support the policy of the party and personally Mr. President.

        Who is the last in line?
        I'm behind you!
    4. st25310
      st25310 29 November 2021 18: 40
      +9
      The next step is likely to reset the experience to the people ...
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 29 November 2021 19: 27
        +4
        To avoid paying pensions?
        And what, they may well ...
  2. evgen1221
    evgen1221 29 November 2021 15: 58
    +6
    No bad, bronze comrades, no bad.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 29 November 2021 16: 10
      +10
      ... Russian generals, admirals and marshals will now be able to serve longer if the need arises.

      If it were the Suvorovs and Kutuzovs, I would only support this decision.
    2. Clear
      Clear 29 November 2021 17: 44
      -4
      Quote: evgen1221
      No bad, bronze comrades, no bad.

      Correctly, bronze weapons are of little use, mainly for beauty. lol
  3. ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 29 November 2021 16: 00
    +14
    I am looking forward to the appearance of a group of general inspectors. Paradise group, who understands what I mean))))
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 29 November 2021 16: 27
      +6
      The Office of Inspectors General of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already existed since 2008 ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 29 November 2021 16: 36
        +4
        Quote: ermak124.0
        I am looking forward to the appearance of a group of general inspectors. Paradise group, who understands what I mean))))

        I don't see anything wrong with this sinecure.
        They, in fact, only warned, recommended and advised. By the way, they advised a lot of practical advice.
  4. Serg Kam
    Serg Kam 29 November 2021 16: 03
    +32
    Give it a lifetime!
    And the grandchildren of generals, from birth to enroll in the service, so that the length of service goes
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. spirit
      spirit 29 November 2021 16: 19
      +8
      Gerontocracy
      In the modern world, which is changing with colossal steps, the path where all leading posts in the country are occupied by elders with conservative (past) thinking and their power to prevent new blood (which thinks modernly) risks being doomed to complete collapse
      1. Clear
        Clear 29 November 2021 17: 40
        -7
        Quote: spirit
        Gerontocracy
        In the modern world, which is changing with colossal steps, the path where all leading posts in the country are occupied by elders with conservative (past) thinking and their power to prevent new blood (which thinks modernly) risks being doomed to complete collapse

        Well, our young people were commanded in the 90s and 00s, mom do not cry, these are young Gaidar, Chubais, Nemtsov, Khakamada, Berezovsky, Shakhrai ...
        1. Serg Kam
          Serg Kam 30 November 2021 00: 42
          -1
          these are young Gaidar, Chubais

          Don't worry, they are in command now.
          Russian President Vladimir Putin has appointed the former head of Rusnano, Anatoly Chubais, as the president's special representative for relations with international organizations to achieve sustainable development goals.

          http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/64548
          1. Clear
            Clear 30 November 2021 10: 26
            -2
            Quote: SergKam
            these are young Gaidar, Chubais

            Don't worry, they are in command now.
            Russian President Vladimir Putin has appointed the former head of Rusnano, Anatoly Chubais, as the president's special representative for relations with international organizations to achieve sustainable development goals.

            http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/64548

            It is not so easy to merge these, in fact, representatives of the Anglo-Saxons. But, according to yesterday's infe, Chubais, who wanted to crush the green energy of Russia, dismissed Mishustin in favor of the statesman Belousov ...

            https://ruslanostashko.livejournal.com/823670.html
    3. Waterways 672
      Waterways 672 29 November 2021 16: 23
      +17
      Quote: SergKam
      enroll from birth

      It is possible earlier.
      Mother was still a belly of me, as I was already enrolled in the Semyonovsky regiment as a sergeant, by the mercy of the Major of the Guards, Prince V., a close relative of ours.
      "Captain's daughter".
    4. Flooding
      Flooding 29 November 2021 16: 34
      0
      Quote: SergKam
      And the grandchildren of generals, from birth to enroll in the service, so that the length of service goes

      everyone liked your offer
      Vox populi vox Dei
    5. Alf
      Alf 29 November 2021 18: 19
      +2
      Quote: SergKam
      And the grandchildren of generals, from birth to enroll in the service, so that the length of service goes

      Somewhere in Russia it already happened, more precisely, "when" ... In this case, the coronation is not far off ..
      And what, there is an irreplaceable tsar, the nobility in the form of the United Russia has formed, the slaves are a complete country ... Even money with tsarist regalia has long been issued ...
    6. lis-ik
      lis-ik 29 November 2021 18: 19
      -1
      Quote: SergKam
      Give it a lifetime!
      And the grandchildren of generals, from birth to enroll in the service, so that the length of service goes

      In the Life Guards Preobrazhensky and Semyonovsky.
  5. Overlock
    Overlock 29 November 2021 16: 03
    +10
    Well I do not know! The eternal generals and marshals of the USSR somehow did not really strengthen the country's defense
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 29 November 2021 16: 07
      +9
      In the country, everything goes to castes, by the way, the children of law enforcement officers are given the green light to enter universities, they are a priority
      1. Elena Akinfieva
        Elena Akinfieva 29 November 2021 16: 52
        +3
        By the way, the children of the military are given the green light to enter universities, followed by the Suvorov and Nakhimovites. Then the children of those killed during the execution, and then the rest, but there are no places. Well, at the construction of the university, the head of the institute will say, for me you are all equal. lol
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 November 2021 17: 40
          0
          Quote: Elena Akinfieva
          Well, at the construction of the university, the head of the institute will say, for me you are all equal.

          Because the head of the institute also has a boss who has his own relatives and a boss above the boss.
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 29 November 2021 18: 21
        +6
        Quote: RUSS
        In the country, everything goes to castes, by the way, the children of law enforcement officers are given the green light to enter universities, they are a priority

        So the United Russia Party is no longer a party, but a caste for careerists and embezzlers.
        1. your1970
          your1970 29 November 2021 22: 08
          -1
          Quote: lis-ik
          So the United Russia Party is no longer a party, but a caste for careerists and embezzlers.

          Here just now from other party comrade lit up - they do not give him the budget, so at least he grabbed some meat for free ..
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 29 November 2021 16: 07
      +6
      Quote: Overlock
      Well I do not know! The eternal generals and marshals of the USSR somehow did not really strengthen the country's defense

      Gerontocracy is not good ...
      We have a dominance of 60+ both in power and in the army
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 29 November 2021 16: 47
        +7
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Overlock
        Well I do not know! The eternal generals and marshals of the USSR somehow did not really strengthen the country's defense

        Gerontocracy is not good ...
        We have a dominance of 60+ both in power and in the army

        I am sure that in the event of real hostilities, the desire of many to serve longer than the term will sharply diminish.
        1. Andrey Moskvin
          Andrey Moskvin 29 November 2021 17: 21
          +3
          Will they be sent to the attack? I think, on the contrary, they will be happy to make victorious plans, especially if they have been sitting out their pants all their lives.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 29 November 2021 17: 33
            -1
            Quote: Andrey Moskvin
            Will they be sent to the attack? I think, on the contrary, they will be happy to make victorious plans, especially if they have been sitting out their pants all their lives.

            It is not the attack that is straining, but the straining to stand before the military tribunal.
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 29 November 2021 16: 20
      +5
      Quote: Overlock
      The eternal generals and marshals of the USSR somehow did not really strengthen the country's defense

      and what was wrong with the defense capability of the USSR?
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 29 November 2021 16: 50
        +4
        Quote: Flood
        Quote: Overlock
        The eternal generals and marshals of the USSR somehow did not really strengthen the country's defense

        and what was wrong with the defense capability of the USSR?

        Agree. If our defenses had been poor, we would have been slapped with great pleasure.
        But, they found a vulnerable spot - bribery, betrayal, Western gay culture, drugs, drunkenness, new "art", historical lies ...
      2. Snarkxnumx
        Snarkxnumx 29 November 2021 17: 52
        0
        "and what was wrong with the defense capability of the USSR" The defense capability was at the level, but also partly led to the collapse of the USSR.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 29 November 2021 17: 53
          +3
          Quote: Snark1876
          The defense capability was at the level, but also partly led to the collapse of the USSR.

          We now, decades later, all generalissimo speculate about the reasons for the collapse.
          For example, I do not agree with this common point of view.
          1. Snarkxnumx
            Snarkxnumx 29 November 2021 17: 57
            0
            Agree. Everything is more complicated. But it's easier to control 80 year olds than young and daring generals.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 30 November 2021 00: 16
              0
              Quote: Snark1876
              Agree. Everything is more complicated.

              one of the reasons for the collapse of the country is the ruin in the heads
              here is 1989, in fact, the last days of the country
              decadence
    4. evgen1221
      evgen1221 29 November 2021 17: 48
      0
      Here you can argue.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 29 November 2021 18: 58
        +3
        Senile obstinacy is no better than "youthful", and in some situations it is much worse.
        (for example: yes, here we are since 17 without these machine guns of yours, but what the fuck are these your machine guns to us - one overexpenditure of ammunition. Yes, in a bayonet and that's it!)

        Etc. Variations are possible - instead of the word "machine", put something suitable for the situation. What, hasn’t anyone heard anything like it? I'm not saying that one to one, but the meaning was clearly similar ...
  6. Dikson
    Dikson 29 November 2021 16: 04
    +16
    First, we will close the military schools, then we will extend the service life of the generals .. In general, optimization .. And will 70-year-old generals ride in positions? Technologies are pushing ahead, military equipment is getting smarter and requires modern approaches and solutions .. But grandfathers will be in command ..
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 29 November 2021 16: 17
      -3
      Quote: Dikson
      Will the 70-year-old generals ride in positions?

      in our time of breakthrough communication technologies, you can command from the couch, sitting in front of monitors and sipping cocoa.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 November 2021 16: 40
        +19
        But it's better that - even from the couch - not the grandfather who commands.
        The optimal age for the top of the command: 40-55 years.
        Until this age, "pulls for deeds" (adrenaline hits the head smile ), later - the speed of the brain is dulled.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 29 November 2021 16: 47
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The optimal age for the top of the command: 40-55 years

          I hope you have not yet crossed the fatal threshold and managed to feel a humorous note in my comment
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 29 November 2021 16: 52
            +2
            I stepped over ... crying
            "How I wanted to be a general ..." laughing
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 29 November 2021 16: 53
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Stepped over

              will have to be attributed to age lol
        2. Iris
          Iris 29 November 2021 17: 06
          +2
          Greetings
          Interestingly, what is the age limit for the highest command staff of the IDF?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 29 November 2021 17: 24
            +14
            Generals are retired at 50. There were exceptions - at 55, approximately.
            And the average officer corps is sent to retire at 42-45.
            1. Iris
              Iris 29 November 2021 17: 25
              +1
              I see. Thanks.
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 29 November 2021 22: 11
              0
              As I understand it, your retired generals often go into politics or business structures.
        3. Alf
          Alf 29 November 2021 18: 21
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Until this age, "pulls on exploits" (adrenaline hits the head), later - the speed of the brain dulls.

          Later, insanity.
        4. Glory1974
          Glory1974 30 November 2021 08: 49
          +2
          The optimal age for the top of the command: 40-55 years

          I think you are right. In the Red Army, generals were 40-50 years old. Zhukov 45, Chernyakhovsky and 40 were not.
          And among the Germans, all the generals fought in the First World War. Yes, experienced, but old, under 60-70 years. In general, the youth defeated the old.
          I myself saw a general sleeping at a meeting, the chief of intelligence of the group - a grandfather under 60. God forbid, under the command of such a fight.
  7. Evil troll
    Evil troll 29 November 2021 16: 04
    +18
    Russian generals will be able to serve longer

    If you insert Durasel batteries wassat
    1. Alf
      Alf 29 November 2021 18: 23
      +5
      Quote: Angry Troll
      Russian generals will be able to serve longer

      If you insert Durasel batteries wassat

      Where exactly to insert? lol
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 29 November 2021 20: 49
        +4
        Where exactly to insert?

        Keep silence for everyone !!!
  8. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 29 November 2021 16: 09
    +8
    The main thing is that sclerosis does not prevent the enaral to say in time that "they still can"! (A pensioner at an andrologist's appointment: Doctor! I am 70 years old, but I can’t go with my wife anymore! And my 80-year-old neighbor says that he can! Doctor: Well, you say that you can!)
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 29 November 2021 16: 49
      +3
      Lord, 88 years old, looks out the window at London.
      - Today I could, Jonathan - says to the butler.
      - Congratulations, sir - he answers.
    2. Silver bullet
      Silver bullet 29 November 2021 17: 08
      +3
      Nikolaevich l
       (A pensioner at an andrologist's appointment: Doctor! I am 70 years old, but I can’t go with my wife anymore! And my 80-year-old neighbor says that he can! Doctor: Well, you say that you can!)
      Orgasm can be simulated at 80 years old easily, but simulate an erection! You will not order him, behold! wassat
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 29 November 2021 17: 58
        0
        Quote: Silver bullet
        You will not order him, behold!

        And if: "In the name of the revolution!" ? And "Mauser" show? what
      2. Alf
        Alf 29 November 2021 18: 25
        0
        Quote: Silver bullet
        but simulate an erection! You will not order him, behold!

        Lieutenant, be silent! lol
  9. prior
    prior 29 November 2021 16: 22
    +7
    We will fight this with the old men ...
    This is me, as the old man tell you. wassat
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 29 November 2021 16: 31
      +5
      Quote: prior
      We will fight this with the old men ...
      This is me, as the old man tell you. wassat

      Generals are always preparing for the last war, and our elders all the more
  10. Altmann
    Altmann 29 November 2021 16: 29
    +4
    This is not a worthy discussion. For example, our Czech Marshal Radetzky defeated the Italian army (1848) at the age of 85, and the defeat was crushing. I myself am a retired soldier and believe that the selection of senior officers should be such as to jeopardize the growth and quality of young officers. Russian is rather weak, but you will understand.
    Omlouvám se, alre tato diskuze není sluně vedená! am
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 November 2021 17: 05
      +1
      Quote: Altmann
      This is not a worthy discussion. For example, our Czech Marshal Radetzky defeated the Italian army (1848) at the age of 85, and the defeat was crushing. I myself am a retired soldier and believe that the selection of senior officers should be such as to jeopardize the growth and quality of young officers. Russian is rather weak, but you will understand.
      Omlouvám se, alre tato diskuze není sluně vedená! am

      In my opinion, A. V. Suvorov made his famous crossing of the Alps at the age of 70.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 29 November 2021 18: 09
        +3
        Quote: Terenin
        In my opinion, A. V. Suvorov made his famous crossing of the Alps at the age of 70.

        our Czech Marshal Radetzky defeated the Italian army (1848) at the age of 85, and the defeat was crushing.
        Exceptions don't contradict the rules! An individual approach to senior officers is not excluded! If you really "can" - serve on! But this is a note (note) ... in the law it is advisable to "prescribe" a "restriction" by age ... but with a laptop (note)!
    2. Undecim
      Undecim 29 November 2021 20: 52
      +1
      I'm a retired soldier myself

  11. Pavel57
    Pavel57 29 November 2021 16: 30
    +2
    Saving on pensions for generals can reduce the fighting efficiency of the army.
  12. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 29 November 2021 16: 32
    +8
    The elevators stopped ...
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 November 2021 17: 02
      +14
      not quite right, the elevators STOPPED ...
      all the sun-faced people and those close to them were reset to zero.
      those who are ready to serve them have been extended.
      why stopped? they have children; they have grandchildren; other relatives. The caste has been created.
      Why let strangers go there?

      no, what did you think it would be?
      I personally am not surprised.

      PS this does not mean that I agree with such "chemistry"
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 29 November 2021 17: 07
      +6
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      The elevators stopped ...

      The main thing is that in these elevators the doors do not rust to get out. winked
  13. faiver
    faiver 29 November 2021 16: 36
    +4
    more and more miraculous ...
  14. Bow
    Bow 29 November 2021 16: 42
    +5
    Colonels should be especially pleased with this news.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 November 2021 17: 00
      +4
      for a long time now they will not become major generals ...
  15. Victor F
    Victor F 29 November 2021 16: 42
    +3
    Russian generals will be able to serve longer, IN MARASM ...
    1. alystan
      alystan 29 November 2021 18: 10
      -3
      Will the youngsters come to the exam insanity will be better?
      So they smear everything Soviet, but at any cost they try to use to the maximum the Soviet reserve, Soviet knowledge and Soviet experience! In this case, the general!
      The commander-in-chief is afraid to stay with people like Serdyukov and his Co.
  16. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 29 November 2021 16: 59
    +2


    Chapaev will swim right now!

    With all due respect! But no, this is wrong, given the lack of constant combat use. Otherwise, like the Poles, we will be "with swords on the tanks." Experience, it must be practical, real. Otherwise, the thread is lost. The last "combat generals" were in the 90s. And this was not a war, but CTO (Chechnya) - an extremely narrow application of tactics. Syria? Are we expecting a massive offensive by the "Barmaley"?
    The main tactician of the future War is the colonel. Strategist - the higher headquarters and the work of the Foreign Ministry and the Foreign Intelligence Service (to talk out "allies" (which allies?))).
    Old men are simply honored and respected, if they have not become very rich during the service.
    1. Alf
      Alf 29 November 2021 18: 27
      +1
      Quote: Kesha1980
      like the Poles, we will be "with swords on the tanks."

      By the way, a rare nonsense.
      1. Kesha1980
        Kesha1980 29 November 2021 18: 32
        +1
        I'm not a "legend destroyer", it sounds funny enough to me to use as an aphorism.
        1. Alf
          Alf 29 November 2021 18: 34
          +2
          Quote: Kesha1980
          I'm not a "legend destroyer", it sounds funny enough to me to use as an aphorism.

          Well, yes, except as an aphorism, this phrase can no longer sound. You're right.
          1. Kesha1980
            Kesha1980 29 November 2021 18: 39
            0
            In fact, I served as a sapper. Therefore, recalling the level of armoring of light tanks / wedges even at the end of the 30s, you can think of a lot. If they are cut off from the infantry in a blitz-march. If.
            1. Alf
              Alf 29 November 2021 18: 43
              0
              Quote: Kesha1980
              In fact, I served as a sapper.


              By the way, just for fun, do you know where this phrase came from?
              1. Kesha1980
                Kesha1980 29 November 2021 19: 01
                0
                From digging glanders). But I, so to speak, more precisely a miner.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 29 November 2021 19: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Kesha1980
                  From digging glanders). But I, so to speak, more precisely a miner.

                  I mean the Poles with the shablyuks for the tanks?
                  1. Kesha1980
                    Kesha1980 29 November 2021 19: 05
                    0
                    Sow? As the French say ...
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 29 November 2021 19: 06
                      0
                      like the Poles, we will be "with swords on the tanks."

                      I'm talking about the Poles.
                      1. Kesha1980
                        Kesha1980 29 November 2021 19: 41
                        0
                        I write "well, and"
                        ("sow" - if not hottsa be like Karin)
              2. Kesha1980
                Kesha1980 29 November 2021 19: 06
                0
                By the way, how many times does a sapper make mistakes?
                1. Alf
                  Alf 29 November 2021 19: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: Kesha1980
                  By the way, how many times does a sapper make mistakes?

                  Twice. When he gets married and when he chooses this profession.
                  1. Kesha1980
                    Kesha1980 29 November 2021 19: 39
                    0
                    Yes! When I became a sapper, I always laughed about the "only mistake")
    2. your1970
      your1970 29 November 2021 22: 18
      0
      Quote: Kesha1980
      Are we expecting a massive offensive by the "Barmaley"?

      With whom?
      NATO? We won't last long in an ordinary war, further nuclear weapons
      Enemies of the level of Ukraine? We will not pull the occupation economically.
      Barmaley? Also problematic ...
  17. Serega1
    Serega1 29 November 2021 17: 00
    -14
    Experience decides a lot! Which doctor will you go to under the knife who has been operating for 1 year or who has been working as a surgeon for 25 years?
    We had a surgeon here for 1 year of experience in total, he crippled a lot of people out of ignorance and inexperience, a lot of people wanted to stuff his face due to disability, he understood the hints in time and left for another city ...

    So I agree with Putin! Experience is better in a difficult situation!
    1. Alf
      Alf 29 November 2021 18: 30
      +9
      Quote: Serega1
      So I agree with Putin! Experience is better in a difficult situation!

      And how did Putin's experience in his twenty years sit on the throne help?
    2. Azis
      Azis 29 November 2021 18: 50
      +6
      Try the famous Roshal or Bokeria, they only pose for cameras. Leadership is possible, but at age, coordination is not the same, and dementia manifests itself. And working surgeons are working, possibly their students.
      1. Adrey
        Adrey 29 November 2021 23: 04
        0
        Try the famous Roshal or Bokeria, they only pose for cameras. Leadership is possible, but at age, coordination is not the same, and dementia manifests itself. And working surgeons are working, possibly their students.
        30-55 "golden time" of the surgeon. Not so little. Then yes, it is really difficult.
  18. KSVK
    KSVK 29 November 2021 17: 00
    -1
    Quote: Flood
    Quote: Dikson
    Will the 70-year-old generals ride in positions?

    in our time of breakthrough communication technologies, you can command from the couch, sitting in front of monitors and sipping cocoa.

    Better from the bunker. Command. And it's better not to do nichrome at all. But from the bunker. Stability is called.
  19. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 29 November 2021 17: 03
    +6
    I'm 65+ and I think yes ... I need it. There will be no time left for the memoirs or there will be a walk with the dog.
    Without irony, everything has its time, served go grow strawberries.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 29 November 2021 17: 13
      +3
      Quote: ODERVIT
      I'm 65+ and I think yes ... I need it. There will be no time left for the memoirs or there will be a walk with the dog.
      Without irony, everything has its time, served go grow strawberries.

      hi

      smile I agree, I myself am like that and I repeat to my friends that the donkey standing in the shade will not come out in the sun on its own No.
      1. ODERVIT
        ODERVIT 29 November 2021 17: 58
        +3
        I did not begin to develop the theme of veterans of the movement "take care of the prostate from a young age." lol
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 29 November 2021 18: 19
          +2
          Quote: ODERVIT
          I did not begin to develop the theme of veterans of the movement "take care of the prostate from a young age." lol

          Oh, this buddy is important! drinks
  20. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 29 November 2021 17: 20
    0
    It's okay, if only there were medical examinations, psychiatrists in particular
    1. thinker
      thinker 29 November 2021 18: 24
      +2
      And be sure to FIZO yes
      In order to successfully pass physo, a 48-year-old colonel needs to earn at least 16 points on each exercise. That is, perform at least 3 pull-ups or 5 flip-ups on the crossbar. Then push up twenty times from the floor and run a kilometer in three and a half minutes.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 29 November 2021 22: 18
        0
        I think the flip up is harder than the pull-ups. The relationship is not clear.
      2. Glory1974
        Glory1974 30 November 2021 08: 56
        0
        And be sure to FIZO

        Unfortunately, the generals will not pass anything and surrender anything. According to the order, everyone who received a general's rank automatically receives the highest level of class - a master, and the corresponding additional payments to the salary. After that, you don’t have to hand over anything.
    2. Keer
      Keer 30 November 2021 01: 11
      0
      Will pass - no question. And a hundred square meters will run for ten, but it will be necessary for five.
  21. Million
    Million 29 November 2021 17: 25
    +3
    Normal. And after the death of a general, one of his children or grandchildren becomes a general.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 November 2021 17: 29
      +4
      Exactly. Now it is clear why the social elevators were stopped? The caste has already been created. There is no place for strangers.
  22. ximkim
    ximkim 29 November 2021 17: 26
    +2
    Sadly ....
    There is no development.
  23. yfast
    yfast 29 November 2021 17: 29
    -1
    Have they not fought enough? Well, yes, there was no war, you can continue to serve.
  24. decimalegio
    decimalegio 29 November 2021 18: 04
    +3
    In all sectors at the top, civil or military, they want to extend the retirement age. In Italy, magistrates now retire at 70, but from time to time they talk about postponing this period to 73 or 75 years. Question: "cui prodest" (who benefits)?
    The answer is simple.
    The offer is beneficial to all those who, at the age of 70, have to retire, leaving the very important positions that they currently occupy.
    Therefore, there are many stakeholders in the legislative proposal. And to identify them, it is enough to consult on seniority in the ordinary judicial system, the Council of State, the Court of Accounts and the Attorney General of the state, respectively. In short, the highest leaders of the Italian judicial system. It's the same with the military
  25. Aag
    Aag 29 November 2021 18: 10
    +1
    "Calm down, you foolish servants !! - The Tsar said! ..."
    ... With all the internal indignation and external disagreement, I can agree that some people of decent age will give odds to their younger compatriots ... But, this is more in science ... Yes, and, perhaps, in the last generation .. . "Shchaz" to the price of "devotion" ... (((
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 November 2021 19: 07
      +1
      Exactly. "Personal fans" and "wearers of slippers with the right to scratch the heels" Pts even in the price. After all, close to the caste.
      Not very close, but
      this is already higher than "... entot, like him, ... People!" (with)
      1. Aag
        Aag 29 November 2021 20: 00
        0
        Quote: Nexcom
        Exactly. "Personal fans" and "wearers of slippers with the right to scratch the heels" Pts even in the price. After all, close to the caste.
        Not very close, but
        this is already higher than "... entot, like him, ... People!" (with)

        I confess, in this regard, maybe I would not be so categorical .. If (as already announced, they wrote before me), there were worthy personalities ... The stump is clear, - how do we know how to judge .. But, looking at the list of Heroes of the Russian Federation (alongside, IMHO, with worthy ones), characters flicker, - as they say, - a diva. ..
  26. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 29 November 2021 19: 41
    +1
    Pure gerantocracy ...
    The brain of a 70-year-old person has a lower lability, whether someone likes it or not, but a violation of mental processes begins to occur: no one has yet canceled senile dementia.
    Well, the general, who has constipation and frequent extrasystals, does not wake up to think qualitatively about planning the front.
    I understand that the elite really want to stay at the trough, well, damn it, introduce a law on the transfer of posts, titles, orders and medals by inheritance, this will give a fantastic leap: firstly, you can legally transfer the command of the district to your son / grandson. And the place for the youth to give way and to be preserved at the feeding trough. Secondly, leavened patriots will cheer up: it is one thing in the comments of "repeats" if you need to repeat (I apologize for the pun) and quite another, to say all the same, having legally put on your grandfather's orders ...
    Well, there was already a race on carriages, the cup was never taken, and the country was destroyed
  27. decimalegio
    decimalegio 29 November 2021 20: 21
    0
    Each country has its own castes with corresponding privileges. And they die hard. Returning to magistrates in Italy, they are organized by a college made up of magistrates and laity designated by parliament, called the CSM. CSM advisors take a salary of € 20 per month and are in office for 000 years. There was a case of a magistrate who reached the retirement age of 4 during his first year at CSM, so, no longer in service but retired, he was declared confiscated. He appealed, arguing that since he was elected for 70 years, he cannot be declared ineligible, even if the requirement for the CSM is to be a magistrate in service. For 4 euros a month who wouldn't mind ??
    1. Aag
      Aag 29 November 2021 20: 30
      0
      "... For 20 euros a month, who would mind ?? ..."
      THIS IS THIS we (first of all, the "elite" - some of the rest later ...) picked up this quickly ... It seems that even the adversaries are stunned (with the translation okay?). hi
    2. decimalegio
      decimalegio 29 November 2021 20: 30
      0
      Among the Italian military, there are only senior officers; upon retirement, there is always a promotion to a higher rank with the right to a relative increased pension. Then the special forces in Italy have the status of a raider, in the patent the raider gives the right to substantial compensation. Currently, the status of a raider belongs to 9 Colonel Moshin from the army, Komsubin from the navy, GIS carabinieri and, finally, 17 raiders from the air force. Attempts by other departments to expand the criteria for qualifying a raider in order to obtain a relative premium continue.
  28. BAI
    BAI 29 November 2021 21: 57
    +5
    Another step towards the degeneration of the army. Doesn't the experience of the USSR Politburo teach anything? There is no personnel reserve either in politics or in the army.
    By the way, since Putin is going to extend the age personally, it means he is going to be president in order to keep trusted = trusted generals by his side.
  29. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 29 November 2021 23: 29
    0
    Who Wants to Be a General? Stand in line, align, at attention, alignment in the middle))

    If you are a son, you graduate from the academy, then you will become a weapon, a messenger of death, praying that war will come)))
  30. Keer
    Keer 30 November 2021 01: 06
    +1
    "Only old men go to battle" lol "The front commander is in intensive care at T.O., wait for orders until Thursday."
  31. for
    for 30 November 2021 05: 37
    0
    Otherwise, there will be no one else to serve.

    The generals of the Russian Guard were suspected of embezzling hundreds of millions of rubles.
    https://lenta.ru/news/2021/11/30/rosguard/
  32. Nitarius
    Nitarius 30 November 2021 09: 53
    -1
    there is NO bad in this .. if they come with the exam .. it's better to have old staff! than schoolchildren like now!
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 30 November 2021 14: 55
      +1
      about the exam.

      ... "Comrade Major General, make a decision and issue an order!"
      "Shchaz, Google will load, something needs to be clarified and Google maps - Look at the street view to check the situation." wassat
  33. alystan
    alystan 30 November 2021 15: 19
    0
    The President of Russia signed a bill to extend the service life of senior officers. Russian generals, admirals and marshals will now be able to serve longer, if necessary.

    Prior to that, according to the law, the maximum service life of generals, admirals and marshals was 65 years with the ability to conclude (I think not everyone who wants) a contract for another five years. A new amendment to the Federal Law "On Military Duty and Military Service" will allow them to be in service even after they reach their maximum service life, but the decision on each specific case will be made by the head of state.

    According to the head of the Defense Committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, Andrei Kartapolov, positively responded to this initiative, noting that the new the law is aimed at strengthening the country's defense.

    Some experts disagree with this formulation of the question, believing that this can close the path to the commanding staff for younger and equally talented officers, leaving the top commanding staff of Russia for many years "without an influx of young blood."


    It turns out that new contracts will not be offered to everyone or everyone, but will be signed only with the best and most in demand. Proceeding from the state necessity!
    1. Alf
      Alf 30 November 2021 18: 54
      0
      Quote: alystan
      only with the best and demanded.

      And loyal ... Apparently they remembered how many generals had gone over to the Red Army ...