Browning of different ages: the smallest and the largest

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History firearms weapons. The market demanded not only large and powerful pistols, but also very small, so to speak, ladies' pistols, that is, even smaller than the 1900 model and chambered for a weaker cartridge. And - if it is necessary, then it is necessary.

Pocket


Having at hand an excellent sample of a pistol, John Browning did not have much difficulty in 1905 to make a very small pistol, which, although it was called the "model of 1905", began to be mass-produced by the Belgian company FN in 1906 and also in the USA, where this pistol became known as FN "Model 1905" by the year of the patent. Well, in Europe it was called "Model 1906" after the year it was launched.



The popularity of the pistol was so great that by 1914 it was produced in the amount of 503 copies. And in total, by the beginning of World War II, when its production was finally completed, about 434 such pistols were produced. Also, since 1 in the USA, the Colt company supplied the Colt M200 Western Pocket pistol to the stream.


Browning 1906 - Baby 1935 Royal Arsenal, Leeds

The pistol had a caliber of 6,35 mm, and fired cartridges, again, Browning's own design: 6,35x15,5 HR (6,35 Browning). The length of the pistol was 114 mm, the barrel length was already quite small - 53,5 mm, and the width was only 24 mm. The weight without cartridges was also small - only 380 grams. However, he had only 6 rounds of magazine capacity. So it was not heavy with cartridges either.


It is necessary to distinguish between these kids: "Baby" - actually Browning and "Baby" - his student Dieudone Seiva. This is a "Baby" produced in 1931, but only by Save and ... especially for the ladies!

Interestingly, despite its small size, the pistol was quite perfect. For example, he had two fuses (though at first there was only one - a handle): a handle - automatic, and a flag - transfer.

Again, the officers of the Russian Imperial Army were allowed to buy this pistol for "outside construction". Which, by the way, was also a very budget solution. Browning in Russia was generally a cheap weapon. So, "the ideal of such a weapon" (as the advertisement called it!), The M1900 pistol cost only 22 rubles in Russia!


Advertising "Browning" in Russia

After Browning died, his student Dieudone Save carried out the modernization of the 1906 model already in 1927, after which the first series of the new pistol went on sale in 1931.


Dieudone Seiva pistol. Left view. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be


He is the right view. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

He made the old model even more compact.

Now there was no fuse in the handle, the fuse on the body was increased. Due to its tiny size, "Baby" (it received such a name) became a typical female pistol, and therefore, like the 1906 model, engraved and nickel-plated samples were also produced, which came directly from the factory with mother-of-pearl handles.

The standard models were sold in a blued finish with plastic overlays. Until 1966, FN produced this type with a high-quality polish, and then only with a matte finish.

Colt and Fabrika Natsionale agreed that FN would not sell the M1906 on the US market until the early 1950s. But in 1953, the American firm "Browning Weapons Company" began with the import of these particular FN pistols. Many of them simply had the name "Browning" at the top of the grip instead of "FN" and "Baby".


"Browning" caliber 9 mm M35 at the Museum of the Imatra Border Guard, Finland

The boom in their sales in America ended in 1968 with the passage of the new firearms control law, which no longer allowed the import of Saturday night pistols.

This prompted US manufacturers to fill this area. Michigan-based Bauer Farms began making a stainless steel replica of the Belgian Baby, while other smaller companies produced .0,25 caliber pistols with fantastic names such as Raven or Titan.

Browning of different ages: the smallest and the largest
A weapon of the Swedish Volunteer Corps that fought in Finland during the Winter War. Swedish 6,5 mm m / 21 light machine gun, a variant of the Browning automatic rifle. Swedish 6,5 mm Mauser rifle M / 96 with bayonet. Swedish 6,5-mm Mauser M / 94 carbine with bayonet. 9 mm Browning pistol M / 35 with butt holster. 7,65 mm Browning M / 1910. 7,65 mm Browning M / 1910-22. 9 mm Browning M /. Swedish 9-mm "Husqvarna" M / 07, variant "Browning M / 03. Photo taken at the exhibition "Winter War - 70 Years" at the War Museum of Finland

In 1979, the location of Baby's production was moved to Bayonne (France), where FN owned a subsidiary, Arms Manufacturing in Bayonne. In Bayonne, the career of the small .25 pistol ended when the company was closed in 1983 for financial reasons.


Diagram of a Browning pistol model 1935 "Browning HP"

Powerful


Shortly before his death, Browning developed his most powerful European pistol, dubbed the Browning HP, and "high power" (which is how the HP abbreviation is translated) is actually not associated with any of its special characteristics, like a pistol, but with ... the capacity of his magazine, which could be loaded with 13 rounds, against the same 8 in parabellum.

The pistol used a type of automation based on the use of barrel recoil with a short stroke. Disengagement occurs due to the interaction of the inclined notch in the tide, located at the rear lower part of the barrel, with a special part in the pistol frame. After the barrel with the bolt moves back a few millimeters, the barrel goes down, disengaging from the bolt; the barrel stops, and the bolt goes back, extracting the spent cartridge case and completing the reloading cycle. The engagement is carried out by means of protrusions-hooks on the breech of the barrel and on the inner surface of the bolt.


Browning pistol, model 1935. Full name: FN Browning Model 35 HP (M68) (i.e. 1968 release). Royal Arsenal, Leeds


The same pistol. Left view

The trigger mechanism on the pistol was a trigger mechanism, with a single action and a shutter casing delay in the extreme rear position when the cartridges in the magazine ran out. After attaching the next loaded store, the shooter had to press the slide stop lever located on the left and, thus freeing the shutter casing, send the cartridge into the chamber.


Pistol in service in the British army: FN Browning Model 35 HP, Mk.III (1994 release). Royal Arsenal, Leeds

A flag fuse, also on the left side of the frame, locks the sear and the shutter casing. In the 1935 version of the model, the ejector was located in the inner hole of the shutter casing.

Later, from 1965, the ejector was located openly, which simplified production and reduced cost, and the trigger received a lightweight spoke instead of a massive head.

The pistol also has an automatic safety lock that blocks the trigger when there is no magazine in the handle.


Canadian Browning HP. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

The magazine has a double-row arrangement of cartridges with a single-row exit to the bolt, due to which the feed reliability is increased. Fastening the magazine with a latch, which is located at the base of the trigger guard.

The ergonomics of the pistol, despite the simplicity of the shapes and the not too large angle of inclination of the handle, are excellent and provide excellent hold when firing.


Disassembly of the pistol. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be


Aim. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

The aiming range for pistols with an adjustable sight and when firing with an attached holster-butt is declared at 500 m, for a model without it - 50 m.

The pistol immediately attracted attention.

And it all ended with the fact that it was adopted by the armies and police structures of 50 countries of the world, and in some - it continues to be in service to this day!

Moreover, they also began to produce it in different countries.


Pistol with butt holster. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

For example, the production of HP during the war years was established at the John Inglis & K plant in Toronto, Canada, since Belgium was occupied by the Germans. The pistol entered service with the Canadian and Chinese armies, and many British officers used it as a secondary weapon, in addition to the Enfield revolvers.


Female workers at John Inglis & K's Toronto, Canada, make Browning for China


FN GP35 sports pistol marking. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be


It featured a trigger with massive "ears". Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

We can say that the pistol was sold around the world and by whom, and wherever it was not used, starting from the Kuomintang army and the German paratroopers, who were armed with it, and right up to the special forces units that are armed with it in our time.


Uruguayan Marine, April 18, 2009


Special Forces soldier of Morocco, March 1, 2017

FN received a special order for this pistol, for example, from the Sultan of Muscat and Oman.


He has an external extractor and the coat of arms of Muscat and Oman, consisting of crossed swords with a dagger. Moreover, there were two orders: the first - for nine pistols, and the second - for twenty-seven. Photo Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be


The pistol was supposed to be equipped with an attachment holster-butt ... Photo by Alain Daubresse www.littlegun.be

So this pistol is still used today ...
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  1. +9
    3 December 2021 06: 37
    I don’t understand one thing: what kind of target can be hit at a distance of 500 meters?
    1. +8
      3 December 2021 07: 14
      Quote: aleks neym_2
      I don’t understand one thing: what kind of target can be hit at a distance of 500 meters?

      These are echoes of the tactical technique of the 1890s. - salvo firing at a group target at a long distance by artillery, the target is a column of infantry in a couple of thousand people.
      say the Mauser K96 sight was marked up to 1000m. dispersion at such a distance was 10m by 5m
    2. +3
      3 December 2021 08: 44
      Quote: aleks neym_2
      I don’t understand one thing: what kind of target can be hit at a distance of 500 meters?

      And most importantly, how to see it? laughing
      1. +2
        3 December 2021 08: 47
        And you can't install a "suspicious" pipe ...
      2. +2
        3 December 2021 10: 54
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        I don’t understand one thing: what kind of target can be hit at a distance of 500 meters?

        And most importantly, how to see it? laughing

        By intuition to find
    3. 0
      10 January 2022 17: 50
      Imagine what would happen if the driver driving the truck across the pontoon bridge was hit by several bullets in the glass. It doesn't matter that they won't kill the cat, but the drowned will not care.
      Tracers to indicate the target, it was believed that the pilot would notice the tracks flying along the enemy bunker, not visible from the air. and bomb it .. Or something else. In the interwar period, there were many tactical techniques that were already deeply forgotten as unnecessary.
      the Mauser K96 had a sight marked up to 1000m. dispersion at this range was 10m by 5m

      Much less, about a circle of three meters from a completely broken rifle in the hands of a recruit. But if the whole squad were to shoot at the calculation of the cannon, he would not be well.
  2. +12
    3 December 2021 07: 37
    I'm sure I'm not the only one who will repeat myself today in my words of gratitude to Vyacheslav Olegovich.
    We are waiting for new articles about new pistols)
    And I also thought - that "Browning" was produced in such massive series. Was there a deduction from each sample to the designer? Did he become rich thanks to his inventions?
    1. +13
      3 December 2021 08: 24
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Did he become rich thanks to his inventions?

      Became, and even very much! From every sold civilian pistol came%. I don’t know from the military, but there they also paid him generously for them. Designer Aimo Lahti was in Finland. So the Finnish Ministry of Defense paid him% for every PISTOL, machine gun or machine gun MADE, and it doesn't matter where it was produced (!) - in Finland, Denmark, Sweden or Norway! Well, Browning was also not ddd in these matters. Otherwise I would not have left the USA for Belgium !!!
      1. +10
        3 December 2021 08: 35
        Hello, Vyacheslav and thanks!))
        Otherwise I would not have left the USA for Belgium !!!

        Oddly enough, but the products of Maxim and Lewis in the United States also did not take root, only Thompson was lucky, due to the support of gangsters, probably. (Joke) wassat bully
        Mafia is a great power !!! good
    2. +8
      3 December 2021 10: 18
      Here is the nuance.
      Personally, John Moses Browning died in 1926 at the age of 71, so he personally could not have received most of the deductions.
      His son was also a gunsmith, something must have passed to him as an heir. But in general, in the situation with weapons, they often turn a blind eye to patents, although history knows the opposite examples.
      During the war, Schmeiser developed the MP41, which differed from the MP40 with a wooden stock, for infantry units, for which compactness with a folding stock did not matter, as for tankers, and the folding stock was loose and the accuracy of shooting decreased.
      Serial production of the MP.41 was established by CG Haenel.
      However, soon the company Erma, which produced the MP.40, with the help of a patent infringement lawsuit, achieved the cessation of production of the MP.41, no matter how strange it looks - the war is in full swing, there are not enough weapons, and two German companies are fighting for patents.
      There was another example - the legendary Jeep, developed by the Bantam company, was actually produced in most of Ford and Willis, which took the overwhelming majority of the cream from military orders.
      1. +1
        3 December 2021 11: 34
        Quote: Avior
        Here is the nuance.
        Personally, John Moses Browning died in 1926 at the age of 71, so he personally could not have received most of the deductions.
        His son was also a gunsmith, something must have passed to him as an heir. But in general, in the situation with weapons, they often turn a blind eye to patents, although history knows the opposite examples.
        During the war, Schmeiser developed the MP41, which differed from the MP40 with a wooden stock, for infantry units, for which compactness with a folding stock did not matter, as for tankers, and the folding stock was loose and the accuracy of shooting decreased.
        Serial production of the MP.41 was established by CG Haenel.
        However, soon the company Erma, which produced the MP.40, with the help of a patent infringement lawsuit, achieved the cessation of production of the MP.41, no matter how strange it looks - the war is in full swing, there are not enough weapons, and two German companies are fighting for patents.
        There was another example - the legendary Jeep, developed by the Bantam company, was actually produced in most of Ford and Willis, which took the overwhelming majority of the cream from military orders.

        on the jeep there it seems everything was from the US government's instructions. you can not provide the volume yourself, transfer the documentation and technology to the competitor so that it would help while the war. - they have how I got a subjective impression, in wartime money is paid, but apparently especially cunning can and Introduce the electric chair))) I don’t know for sure. can anyone more in the subject.
        1. +1
          3 December 2021 12: 25
          you cannot provide the volume yourself, transfer the documentation and technology to a competitor to help while the war

          I’m writing, with issues of patent law on weapons, it happens very differently, even within the same country.
          Bantam managed to create the legendary Jeep in a month and a half, and as a result disappeared after the war.
      2. +8
        3 December 2021 12: 08
        the prolific guy was J.M.B.
        1. +7
          3 December 2021 12: 30
          A serious uncle, a workaholic, died at the age of 71 near a workbench in the armory of his son's company during the creation of High Power.
          1. +4
            3 December 2021 13: 28
            Quote: Avior
            Serious guy, workaholic,

  3. +13
    3 December 2021 08: 27
    FN Browning HP-DA pistol.
    DA - means double action, double action, i.e. allows you to fire self-cocking, or with a preliminary cocking of the trigger.



    Country of origin Belgium
    Caliber (mm) 9
    Year of release 1990
    Fire Modes Single
    Image source weaponland.ru
    Cartridge 9x19
    Barrel length (mm) depending on the model
    Status In production.

    There is a simplified version of this pistol - BDAO - which allows for self-cocking only.

    1. +8
      3 December 2021 08: 49
      Greetings, Constantine! hi
      I shot from the top - I didn't like it. A very hard trigger. Compared to CZ, not to mention the Beret (Glock is generally from a different league) - a piece of iron - a piece of iron. Worse (from what I used) was only Karin - an Israeli replica of his own.
      1. +11
        3 December 2021 09: 02
        Hi Albert! hi
        You are lucky in terms of communication with weapons, I haven’t tried HP, only the first Browning models. My father had an award arr. 1910 with native patrons "Geco", but in the museum arr. 1900 - Soviet cartridges.
        Here Vyacheslav in the article probably just didn't have enough space for a sports model, I'll try to insert it.))

        Browning high power
        (commercial version).
        Caliber, mm 9x19
        Length, mm 198
        Barrel length, mm 118
        Weight unloaded, kg 0.910
        Shop count 13 cartridges
        Muzzle velocity, m/s 350.

        Browning High Power Practical
        caliber .40 S&W.
        And the latest creation of the Browning company is the new Browning Buck Mark Contour Gray URX 5.5 pistol chambered for 22LR.

        1. +9
          3 December 2021 09: 21
          To be honest, I never held a sports pistol in my hands. ))
          And if you remember what the pistol was shooting from at all:
          1) Karin - sucks (at the shooting range, before getting the Chopovsky barrel)
          2) Beret - similar, but I liked the gun itself
          3) CZ - he used him a lot, he took a course with him, retrained in a private security company. Not bad, but gave a lot of misfires
          4) Beret 22 caliber - an officer in the army gave a shot - super
          5) Jericho - Vertuhai courses. So behold.
          6) Bul - CHOP. Neither this nor that. A very uncomfortable, ribbed platoon, fired at a private security company, thank Gd, I didn’t take courses with him, otherwise I would have ripped my fingers apart,
          7) Desert Eagle - commercial shooting range. You shoot with an iron. It takes strong hands to appreciate it.
          8) Ultrasound pistol. Sucks. Neither this nor that. Shot on courses in Chop.
          9) Glock-19 is king. The course in the private security company is 1000 shots and not a single misfire. Perfect. Lightweight, good, soft trigger, easy to disassemble. Lyalya.
          1. +8
            3 December 2021 09: 52
            I never held a sports pistol in my hands,

            Yes, and I only from "Margolin" and shot at the guys at Mosfilm, there were boxes of cartridges.
            And during the service - regular firing from the PM, the pistol did not cause delight, probably because before the army I tried some imported models.
            But I really liked Stechkin good ... In our regiment I.O. the commander of the reconnaissance platoon was a conscript sergeant, and he, like everyone else, needed the Dembel Album, and I painted screensavers for everyone, so I took a fee from him not with vodka, but by shooting from the APS, I had my own ammunition - to corporals at the DMB artillery warehouse albums "were also needed. bully

            This is already from my own album. drinks
            1. +3
              3 December 2021 10: 18
              We didn’t have something like a demobilized album))
              Dembel was handcuffed to something and they broke eggs on it, sprinkled the guns with sugar, milk and cocoa))
              I avoided this because demobilized from training (military assistant). And everyone sighed calmly Yes
              1. +6
                3 December 2021 10: 55
                they broke eggs on it, sprinkled the guns with sugar, milk and cocoa))

                We would have eaten all this, and we did the right thing. fellow drinks
                1. +2
                  3 December 2021 11: 52
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  We would have eaten all this, and we did the right thing.

                  With food and ammunition, we always had norms. ))
                  The only thing is that the most beautiful girls were in the Air Force, we have different ones.
                  1. +2
                    3 December 2021 11: 59
                    ... the most beautiful girls were in the Air Force, we have different ones.


                    We didn't have girls at all, there were so-called. "washcloths", but their language does not dare to call them girls. wassat
                    With grub it was always normal, with ammunition supply, at least for me, it was also in order. soldier
            2. +4
              3 December 2021 12: 04
              Kostya, you draw well, I noticed this long ago, but in our class only 2 years was an excellent student in drawing, and the whole class from the word "bad".
              Drawing and German were taught by 1 teacher. By and large, she also knew lousy German. Nobody in the class could handle German above 4.
              Then it was a big surprise for all of us that she was given: "Excellence in Education"
            3. 0
              25 December 2021 11: 05
              TALENT !! )))
          2. +3
            3 December 2021 11: 13
            22 caliber beret - an officer in the army gave a shot - super

            I support! I am forever a fan of the Beretta. Well, maybe it’s because I’ve never been able to shoot from anything else. wassat )))
            True, I had to learn to hold for a long time so that my hand did not go - this pistol is heavy for me)))
            1. +4
              3 December 2021 11: 53
              Hello! hi
              22nd not heavy, female version. Maybe you mean the nine?
              1. +3
                3 December 2021 12: 03
                And what kind of model, they are there for a fig under the 22LR?
                1. +4
                  3 December 2021 12: 45
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  And what kind of model, they are there for a fig under the 22LR?

                  Yes figs knows. Dali to shoot))
              2. +3
                3 December 2021 13: 57
                Maybe you mean the nine?

                Of course! She was brought from the Chechen war. I suppose there were no "ladies'" options.
                1. +3
                  3 December 2021 15: 35
                  She was brought from the Chechen war.
                  Most likely American Beretta M9. A regular pistol of the US Army, the militants considered it a status pistol. It was somehow not easy in my hand, it was inconvenient and there was no accuracy.
                  1. +2
                    3 December 2021 15: 56
                    It was somehow not easy in my hand, it was inconvenient and there was no accuracy.


                    And what a heavy one! Long learned to hold, aiming. With one hand. I still can't figure out how it turns out with two.
                    1. +1
                      3 December 2021 15: 59
                      And what a heavy one!
                      Yeah. After 4 (sort of) shots, the coach told me that the gun was not your character. And he gave Glock- and immediately it went.
            2. +5
              3 December 2021 11: 58
              Quote: depressant
              22 caliber beret - an officer in the army gave a shot - super

              I support! I am forever a fan of the Beretta. Well, maybe it’s because I’ve never been able to shoot from anything else. wassat )))
              True, I had to learn to hold for a long time so that my hand did not go - this pistol is heavy for me)))

              22nd Beretta toy
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              1. +2
                3 December 2021 15: 28
                22nd Beretta toy

                Yeah! ... The toy is beautiful, it's for close combat)))
                It remains only to admire her.
                1. +3
                  3 December 2021 16: 04
                  Well, if we are already talking about "Berettas", then how can we not remember James, our Bond. fellow After all, if you believe Flemming, and he never lies, then the agent's first barrel was precisely the "Beretta 418" .25ACP.

                  And only in the novel "From Russia with Love" Flemming replaced this "ladies'" pistol with a frivolous cartridge with a "Walther" PPK and a Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight revolver for those cases when great firepower was required.
                  1. +2
                    3 December 2021 19: 39
                    I wonder what it was Fleming punched in the 25th caliber? After all, there could have been a 32nd caliber: Walter RR
                    1. +1
                      3 December 2021 19: 59
                      Yes, they write that when he himself served in the Secret Service, he himself had a "Beretta 418" of exactly 25 caliber. It was only later that more "cool" experts advised him to switch to 32 gauge, which he did.
              2. +3
                3 December 2021 16: 09
                22nd Beretta toy

                If you replace the regular 22LR with an expansive cartridge, then the toy becomes quite dangerous. Yes
                1. +2
                  3 December 2021 16: 34
                  If you replace the regular 22LR with an expansive cartridge ...

                  Kostya, why is it so cruel)))
                  You still offer explosive ammunition wassat )))
                  1. +2
                    3 December 2021 16: 46
                    Prohibited by the Geneva Convention! am
                    1. +3
                      3 December 2021 16: 53
                      Prohibited by the Geneva Convention!

                      Yeah)))
                      But the expanding bullet cannot be prohibited. Because a soldier takes such a machine as in your photo, takes out quite ordinary cartridges from zinc, inserts it into the cells of the device and begins to make cuts on the bullet. I wonder what they cut with? Is the tool also included? )))
                      1. +2
                        3 December 2021 17: 04
                        There is no "machine" there, all the cartridges are factory-made, but, yes, if you wish, you can do it yourself - with a knife. Yes
                      2. +1
                        3 December 2021 17: 12
                        To dramatically increase the traumatic effect of the shot)))
                        Ohhhhh! .... do you know why I sigh heavily? Not because I imagined the traumatic effect of a shot, but because it’s five in the evening, and it’s already night outside, and the damned body signals: it's time to sleep, and nothing else needs to be done. And you know what comes of it well? "You don't have to do anything!" But he won't be able to sleep until two in the morning either. I do not like the dark winter! Equator, where are you?)))
                      3. +1
                        3 December 2021 18: 02
                        I don't like winter either, neither winter nor winter sports, all this is unnatural, in my opinion.
                      4. 0
                        3 December 2021 19: 05
                        I don't like winter either, neither winter nor winter sports ...

                        And how I do not love her!
                        Because we live in such an area that everyone who survived three months of winter gets a fourth as a gift. If the ancestors could not gain a foothold to the south!
                      5. +2
                        3 December 2021 20: 01
                        "It's good where we are not")) Only the reaper can also finish it off. request
                2. +1
                  3 December 2021 19: 41
                  Kostya, so at that time they did not yet know expansive bullets
                  1. 0
                    4 December 2021 11: 22
                    What time is it, Slava? The "dum-dum" bullet has been known since the Anglo-Boer War, if I am not mistaken.
                    1. +1
                      4 December 2021 15: 44
                      * Doom Doom "in my opinion appeared shortly after it.
                      Expansive bullets seem to be for hunting purposes only, and the army uses high-velocity bullets.
                      So I read in Zhuk, however, I read for a long time.
                      1. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 22
                        * Doom Doom "in my opinion appeared shortly after it.

                        Almost simultaneously, even a little earlier.

                        “During the Chitral campaign of 1895, a strong conviction appeared among the British that the bullets they used were ineffective, and the enemy would continue to fight, even being wounded, since shell bullets, which were not able to deform in the wound channel and thus effectively transfer their energy to the target,“ stitched it right through, leaving a neat inlet and outlet, and inflicted fatal damage only when it got into the vital organs.
                        As a result, the British military leadership has set the task of developing a bullet that: can inflict a wound severe enough to stop even the most implacable fanatic.
                        In accordance with this installation, in the early 1890s, at the British Royal Artillery armory, located in the working-class suburb of Calcutta, Dum-dum (more correctly Dam-dame, since in the original - [dʌm dʌm]), British Army officer Captain Neville Bertie-Clay [3] developed expansion bullets for the .303 British cartridge, which was used in the Lee-Metford and, later, Lee-Enfield rifles. Their sock was devoid of a shell - that is, they belonged to the type of bullets now called semi-jacketed, or soft point (SP). "(C)
                      2. +1
                        4 December 2021 18: 36
                        Where did you "dig" it from? About: "Dum-Dum", somewhere I read something like this: "appeared soon after the Anglo-Burgess war."
                        Now he got to the Beetle: "appeared during the Anglo-Burg war"
                        They were used in WWI, but I'm not sure about WWII. Although, the Germans could quietly use them.
                        They were going to use chemical weapons. Remember our old movie, Five from Heaven? The writers didn't just invent the plot.
                      3. +1
                        4 December 2021 19: 41
                        Where did you "dig" it from?

                        Everything from the same place - from the network.))

                        I remember "Five from Heaven" - an excellent film. good

                3. 0
                  3 December 2021 23: 18
                  Why change a soft lead bullet for a so-called "chamomile"? More precisely, why mutilate the bullet? For weight reduction, deterioration of external ballistics?
                  Native bullet .22LR and so, when hit, splashes into the pancake, even copper-plated. Or was it a joke?
      2. +4
        3 December 2021 09: 40
        Alik, Karin is this your HP replica?
        1. +3
          3 December 2021 10: 14
          Quote: vladcub
          Alik, Karin is this your HP replica?

          FN-a HP
      3. +8
        3 December 2021 10: 24
        Compared in the dash Glock, the American army Sieg Sauer and the German policeman Walter.
        In terms of softness of recoil and ease of shooting, Walter and Sieg Sauer were surprisingly noticeably different for the better from Glock - he has a tough recoil.
        Maybe, of course, the Glock wins in terms of reliability, but in the conditions of a shooting gallery this cannot be determined.
        1. +4
          3 December 2021 10: 36
          Quote: Avior
          Compared in the dash Glock, the American army Sieg Sauer and the German policeman Walter.
          In terms of softness of recoil and ease of shooting, Walter and Sieg Sauer were surprisingly noticeably different for the better from Glock - he has a tough recoil.
          Maybe, of course, the Glock wins in terms of reliability, but in the conditions of a shooting gallery this cannot be determined.

          By the way, I forgot - I also fired from ZiG, being a paramedic in training. Our army unit, armed with them, came to make a pistol course, they let us shoot. These were my first attempts at pistol shooting, I really couldn’t do anything, but according to later feelings, Glock seemed to be better - so it seems to me. Once again - after the Glock I did not shoot from the ZiG
          1. +5
            3 December 2021 11: 43
            We took three barrels at the shooting range at the same time and fired in turn. Later, the instructor said about the Sieg Sauer that he also felt that the recoil was softer.
            To be honest, I don’t quite understand how this could be - the cartridges were the same, the pistols were similar, but nevertheless, there were such sensations, maybe, of course, this is subjective, or because of some peculiarities of the pistol's shape.
            Walter sat very well in his hand and felt more compact than a Glock
            1. +3
              3 December 2021 12: 03
              I don't really understand what recoil is when fired from a pistol, the first time I felt this when firing from Desert. If you hold the pistol correctly, we are mainly talking about the trigger operation - with a single slow constant movement, bring it to the shot, then move the hook from a soft feel to the border of a hard one and fire the shot again - this way you achieve a good group and rate of fire. Therefore, the main thing is the smooth operation of the trigger, so that you do not have to "beat" the hook from a hard hook to a soft one. When you make a sharp movement with your finger, the accuracy drops and the pace decreases.
              Everything about Glock seemed perfect to me, but during the shooting from the ZiG I couldn’t do anything, so it’s difficult for me to evaluate your experience. hi
              1. +2
                3 December 2021 12: 39
                then move the hook from a soft feel to the border of a hard one and fire again

                Yes, we also tried high-speed shooting from everyone.
                I didn't see much difference.
                But I am not an expert in this matter, I am writing about my personal feelings.
                1. +2
                  3 December 2021 12: 51
                  Yes, I also shot the last time FIG knows when))
                  And the average, by Israeli standards, shooter was
                  The cops' special forces are in Israel, in my opinion, the best
                  How the special services shoot - I have not seen
                2. 0
                  3 December 2021 16: 40
                  Personal feelings mean a lot too
              2. +1
                3 December 2021 14: 03
                Albert:
                If you hold the pistol correctly, we are mainly talking about the operation of the trigger - with a single slow constant movement, bring it to the shot, then pull the hook from a soft feel to the border of a hard one and ...


                This is if you are a sniper or at a training base. And if you are attacked, then what kind of control is there for a soft, smooth bringing to a shot wassat )))
                So there will be a return.
                1. +3
                  3 December 2021 14: 27
                  What does the sniper have to do with it, Lyudmila Yakovlevna? ))
                  As for the attack - the standard is to pull out the pistol from 8 meters, cock it and hit the A4 sheet. I did it in 1,5-1,7 seconds, the standard, EMNIP, two. I don’t remember the return request
        2. 0
          3 December 2021 23: 43
          And you compare the mass without cartridges, a lot will become clear.
  4. +12
    3 December 2021 08: 35
    Browning 1906 - Baby 1935 Royal Arsenal, Leeds

    It is necessary to distinguish between these kids: "Baby" - actually Browning and "Baby" - his student Dieudone Seiva.

    These two captions illustrate well the mass of mistakes that roam the Browning pistol literature. Even specialized editions for collectors are forced to pay attention to this issue, warning inexperienced collectors of Browning's heritage from common misconceptions. Browning Baby there was no Browning proper... The Browning proper were the FN Browning Model 1905/1906 and Vest Pocket. And FN Baby Browning was developed in 1927 by Dieudonne.
  5. +4
    3 December 2021 09: 35
    Comrades, it seems to me alone, instead of editors, sleeping cats? How else to explain, on the same day V. O and Valery.
    1. +5
      3 December 2021 11: 18
      And in general, I just now realized that this is not yesterday's article by Vyacheslav Olegovich, but a new, today's wassat )))
      The topic of weapons, moreover, one that can be personal, is becoming in demand. Well, in the light of the internal and especially the foreign policy situation, this is understandable. A certain raid of militarization on the mind.
      1. +3
        3 December 2021 12: 34
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna "becomes in demand", to be honest: in the Soviet Union it was far from the "brotherhood of peoples" and even then the personal short-barrel was far from superfluous, but now ... Everything is changing and not for the better
        1. +3
          3 December 2021 13: 52
          Svyatoslav, I don’t know about the short-barrel (my mother had a Walther, disappeared, my father had a pistol, which, unfortunately, he could not use for self-defense, but there are guns - yes, there are several in each house as an obligatory security element. Of course, no safes were provided. There were cases of death of adolescents both at home and on the hunt. Adults often died on the hunt. And only now I thought: what kind of hunting was there in our area? Nothing happened!
  6. +2
    3 December 2021 11: 50
    Q. Oh, by God, I was waiting for Browning. And my question is: is FN continuing to develop new models of army pistols, or are they just "cosmetic" improvements to the FN HP?
    1. +4
      3 December 2021 12: 37
      Quote: vladcub
      FN continues to develop new models of army pistols or simply "cosmetic" improvements to FN HP

      I haven’t looked at how they have it now ... If I look, I’ll write.
      1. +1
        3 December 2021 13: 02
        I would be grateful for the information.
  7. +5
    3 December 2021 12: 39
    - Let me make an amendment! Vest pocket - vest pocket! Yes
  8. +8
    3 December 2021 12: 50
    The article introduces "High Power" by Dedone Seiv and Val Browning, son of John Browning. Here is its diagram:

    But this would be "High Power" 15 rounds Browning Long, if Browning father had time to finish it

  9. +1
    3 December 2021 13: 35
    Board of the ship HMS ("Her Majesty the Ship") "Portland", 2002. A Marine performs a high-power pistol shooting practice.

    This is the caption under the topmost photograph, in which a stern warrior takes aim at someone - he takes it beautifully! )))
    Experts believe that some types of weapons cannot be appreciated by their contemporaries and only a long time later "acquire the well-deserved fame." This is what happened with the Browning High Power (HP) pistol, which was 40 years ahead of its daily routine.
  10. +3
    3 December 2021 13: 38
    I remembered the old apocrypha about the Browning Okunevskaya, which was presented to her after a concert in the flight regiment in Austria. Blue-eyed pilots convinced her that the pistol allegedly "belonged to Eva Braun herself") And which Boris Gorbatov threw out of the train window out of harm's way.
  11. +7
    3 December 2021 13: 39
    The ergonomics of the pistol, despite the simplicity of the shapes and the not too large angle of inclination of the handle, are excellent and provide excellent hold when firing.


    Let's just say this is not true for everyone, alas ...
    I was convinced on my own skin, in the literal sense.
    He fired off the entire magazine, and found the skin torn in blood between the thumb and forefinger of the shooting hand. It turned out that the trigger "bites" on my fold of skin, which forms when the palm is wrapped around the pistol grip.
    In general, HP is not for everyone a pistol ... I talked with those who fired from HP - a third of the same situation.

    Best regards,
    1. +3
      3 December 2021 15: 09
      Apparently, not only with you, colleague)))
      Look at the photo: special forces are shooting in gloves. In previous articles, I asked this question - they say, why in gloves? They explained to me: so as not to injure my hand. On the Internet, on third-party sites, I found the same answer. And so I think: how do gloves affect shooting accuracy?
      1. +4
        3 December 2021 15: 19
        As for the gloves, I have not tried it. But, as I understand it, the situation should be saved. request

        Best regards,
      2. +6
        3 December 2021 15: 21
        Out of habit, they have a negative effect ... In addition, poorly sewn or incorrectly selected gloves are often grabbed by the moving parts of the weapon. But in general, they protect against cuts and abrasions ... Torn off nails are the most unpleasant thing.
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  12. +3
    3 December 2021 15: 34
    - NR - the car is rather big ... what kind of ruchishha should it be so that it could be snatched by the trigger ?! winked
    1. +10
      3 December 2021 16: 24
      Not a hand, but a fold of skin.
      And the handle on the HP, unlike the same 92FS, is small in coverage.
      Therefore, they often mold, especially on sports ones, the so-called "beaver tail" to cover the palm of the shooting hand from above.
      The problem is at least one third of the shooters.
      On the HP, the rear of the frame is perhaps the smallest of the army pistols.

      Best regards,
      1. +3
        3 December 2021 16: 47
        And here's what we found out about grabbing the skin of the hand when firing:
        Browning High Power has a nasty habit of "biting" the shooter's palm with its trigger - the larger and fatter the hand, the more painful the "bite" is. Therefore, on pistols for the FBI, the trigger was often changed along with the sear, installing a kit under the simple name NO BITE - "without a bite"

        That is, the problem really exists, but the FBI solved it when creating its own special forces unit. Indeed, the hands are different.
        1. +3
          3 December 2021 19: 24
          Rational decision
  13. +3
    3 December 2021 16: 44
    HP is an unreal beauty! There is nothing better in the world! (IMHO, of course.)
    I remember in my adolescence, having swallowed Beetle in one gulp, sat down to sketch pictures from his book. Drawn on 11 HP and P38 formats. It turned out well (if I find them in my "archive" - ​​I'll post them).
    1. +4
      3 December 2021 18: 12
      It will be very interesting. Search !!!
  14. +3
    3 December 2021 18: 51
    who is special, in August 1944 it is said about some kind of Browning Long 09 is this an invention of the author?
    1. +3
      3 December 2021 19: 26
      Interesting question
    2. +1
      3 December 2021 19: 51
      Well, actually, the Nazis who occupied Belgium in 1940 used the High Power with might and main, and by the end of the war, the High Power had become the main pistol of the British army.
    3. +1
      3 December 2021 23: 35
      Browning Long 09 is a cartridge for which HP was originally made, after the capture of Belgium, the Germans transferred production to the 9X19 cartridge with which HP and became the standard barrel of various specials. divisions of the Reich. Bogomolov is talking about this particular pistol.
  15. +1
    3 December 2021 23: 26
    Quote: depressant
    Yeah)))
    But the expanding bullet cannot be prohibited. Because a soldier takes such a machine as in your photo, takes out quite ordinary cartridges from zinc, inserts it into the cells of the device and begins to make cuts on the bullet. I wonder what they cut with? Is the tool also included? )))

    For such "homemade products", and they appeared among the Germans in WWI (there they simply bite off the sock of the bullet with special pincers, the effect is the same), at best they shot them on the spot, and more often they shot the same bullet in the limbs ... - the result : 100% amputation.
  16. 0
    3 December 2021 23: 30
    Sea Cat (Konstantin), dear, in the museum you held a lot of different weapons in your hands, maybe you know when and who started firing 22 caliber cartridges, as in the photo you posted. Maybe one of the visitors to "VO" knows ... I have a book by V.N. Satinsky's "Hunting weapons and ammunition", published by Tsentrosoyuz Moscow in 1926. This book was presented to dad by his uncle, either in 1952, or in 1953, after my dad took 2nd place in the youth championship of the RSFSR in cross-country skiing and, as a prize, he was awarded a 16-gauge single barrel, and dad really wanted wristwatch ... On page 56, "American rifle cartridges (full size)" are drawn in the left row from top to bottom: "cal. 22, short; cal. 22 leng; cal. 22 leung riffle; cal. 22; cal . 22, car with a hollow bullet "on the bottom of all casings, a large letter" H "is clearly visible. And one more thing, on the cartridge "with a hollow bullet", approximately in the middle of the sleeve, something like knurling marks is drawn, I understand that if there was a knurling or traces of punching on the muzzle of the sleeve, it can be assumed that the bullet was fastened. And then there is something unknown to me ...
    Yes, the weapons of Sweden were remembered even today, Vyacheslav Olegovich posted an interesting photo in the material. On page 49 of "Hunting weapons and ammunition," the author noted: "The Swedish Gukskvarna rifles used a well-deserved reputation for being good and not expensive, besides."
  17. +1
    3 December 2021 23: 44
    Quote: vladcub
    By golly, I was expecting Browning. And my question is: is FN continuing to develop new models of army pistols, or are they just "cosmetic" improvements to the FN HP?

    FN five-seven for example ...
  18. +1
    3 December 2021 23: 59
    Quote: Tests
    when and who started to produce 22 caliber cartridges

    USA, back in the XNUMXth century, the oldest cartridge currently produced.
  19. +2
    4 December 2021 00: 32
    Quote: depressant
    Apparently, not only with you, colleague)))
    Look at the photo: special forces are shooting in gloves. In previous articles, I asked this question - they say, why in gloves? They explained to me: so as not to injure my hand. On the Internet, on third-party sites, I found the same answer. And so I think: how do gloves affect shooting accuracy?

    There are several options and all are logical:
    1. The same "bite" - put on a glove so as not to injure the hand (so-so option, if the trigger bites, it will break the glove and will be an additional factor when moving the barrel out of the line of fire during further shooting)
    2. When you shoot a lot, the double-layer knitted glove softens the recoil, the forearm does not hurt so much (this is with a daily shot from a hundred shots)
    3. The classic version when shooting from 15 m and further - the same glove with a cropped index finger (remember in "Voroshilov arrow" - the finger on the trigger should be as light as a chamomile petal ..?) The fact is that for long-range shooting, and for short-barreled everything that is further 15m. already far away, - there are a lot of significant factors affecting accuracy, right down to your heart rate, - that's what a thick (relatively) and soft glove neutralizes, but a cut finger ... you need to feel the trigger in order to properly process
    Something like this.
    Sincerely.
  20. +3
    4 December 2021 01: 57
    Little Browning and his holster
  21. 0
    25 December 2021 11: 02
    The Hi-Power trigger is very good. interesting in my opinion. Instead of a trigger rod from the SC through the magazine to the butt plate of the handle, which worsens the layout, a rocker arm is used in the body of the bolt, which presses on the sear. Sleek, compact solution! The descent is taut, but according to reviews, the pistol is quite accurate.
    Another very good it is interesting that the thrust of the mainspring is not a pushing one, like everyone else, but a pulling type. I like it as hell! ))
    And in general - very good. charismatic pistol. Pistol))