Lard as a war product and an object of myths

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Lard ... How much is in this word, isn't it? And with this word, a rather grotesque image of a chubby neighbor from Ukraine has been steadfastly arising for a long time, with just a palm-thick slab of salts, a bottle of organic liquid, stuffed with corn, and so on.

Meanwhile, Ukraine is not even included in the top ten countries in the world for the consumption of lard. This is a fact, albeit a contested one. And in Ukraine, the pig became a friend of man historical standards not so long ago.



And the most interesting thing is that at the dawn of its appearance in the human diet, lard was exclusively a military product. Thousands of three years ago.

However, let's go in order and plunge into history.

The ancient Romans were the inventors of lard. This is an indisputable fact, although the Italians did everything in their own way. It is difficult to say who the Romans spied on the recipe, there are several versions. In general, the Romans were masters of appropriating and remaking something for themselves, no worse than the modern Chinese. So the versions that they spied on the recipe from the Phoenician pirates or Carthaginians have a right to life. Although they could have thought of it themselves. After more than three thousand years, it is difficult to judge.

However, the evidence is provided by the very ancient preserved salting containers, the age of which exactly corresponds to the given figure. That is, marble baths are really about three thousand years old, and they are still in use.


How was the matter? It all started in a small town on the Ligurian coast of Italy, where marble was mined. The town of Colonnata was the center of marble quarrying for Rome. The extraction of marble and its transportation to Rome (about 400 km, a decent distance for those times) required people. Those who get marble, deliver it to the port in Marino di Carrara, load it on ships, bring it to the port near Rome, unload it, load it on carts and bring it to Rome.

That is, for such work, a bunch of slaves and sailors were required, whose existence was not very different from that of a slave. Accordingly, cheap food was needed to feed this small army.

And so the dish was born, which was named "Lardo di Colonnata". "Lardot of Colonnade". "Lardo" was made from Chinto Senese, this is a breed of Italian pigs, nimble, such black pigs, agile and lively. Sounds like the word lard, doesn't it?


The pigs from Kolonnata regularly provided meat and lard. With meat, everything is clear, And fat ... Well, do not throw it away! The marble in Colonnade was simply heaps of, the caves in the quarries gave enough space, and with constant humidity and temperature.

After cutting the carcasses, the bacon was placed in these marble troughs, after rubbing the bottom and walls with wild garlic, sprinkled with sea salt, the sea was only 11 kilometers away, plus local mountain herbs. More than three hundred recipes have come down to our times!

Salted for a long time. They killed the pigs in the fall, the bacon lay in the baths until spring. And in the spring, just the product was very much in the subject. Moreover, it was stored without problems.

Naturally, the ground soldiers were also interested in lard. By that time, "Lardum", that is, rendered pork fat, had already appeared. "Lardum" or in our opinion, lard (aka lard), was also distinguished by its calorie content and ease of storage.

Under Emperor Justinian the Great (483-565), lard became an official product in the Roman legions. And the legion, you know, are no longer slaves in quarries or rowers on ships.

Well, it so happened that two hundred years later, somewhere in the first century AD, aristocrats also paid attention to lard. And to the huge marble slave baths in the caves were added small patrician baths. The essence is the same, just for the aristocracy the marble was polished more carefully, the fat for the patricians was the most selective. The most suitable was fat from the ridge, no more than 4-5 cm thick.

Such "aristocratic" lard was salted for up to 8 months, and was served not just like black bread and garlic, but with baked vegetables as a side dish, with anise and rosemary.

Since a pig is such a self-propelled and unpretentious stock of meat, it is logical that the herds could move by self-propelled where it was needed. And since the herd was driven, it made sense to use it to the fullest. So, after slaughter, the carcasses were singed with straw (familiar!) With laurel leaves. A truly Roman way of singing carcasses, giving meat and lard an additional smoky flavor.

And from Ancient Rome, along with ships and marching legions, fat moved around the world. If we look at the map of the Roman Empire, it will become clear that the country where lard became a kind of symbol was clearly out of work in those years. The first to taste the charm of "lardo" are modern Romania, Germany, Britain, France, Spain.

And then it went on. And basically, among the peoples there was a bloodless (except for pigs) seizure of entire territories with fat.

In the Middle Ages, everything was exactly the same with lard. A great contribution to the development of salmon preparation was made by monasteries, where monks in every possible way perverted the recipe. It was reported that the most successful were the Benedictines, who bred new breeds of pigs and worked on the recipe. Salting pre-boiled lard with spices - this just came from the monasteries of St. Benedict. Saint Benedict (okay, not himself, but the Charter of his Order) allowed his monks to use both lard and ghee. The Benedictines worked tirelessly in this field.

Eggs with bacon, which is spoiled, but bacon - this is also the work of monks. British.

To the east, lard also went with the legions, and later with the Goths and Huns. Barbarians before bacon were also very eager guys, therefore, having ruined the Roman Empire, they adopted the recipe for cooking bacon.

And from the ancient Germans the word "Schmaltz" remained in the language. Melted fat. Generally, first goose, but then pork. It is clear where the "lard" came from, which means the same thing in Russian, Polish and Ukrainian?

So, gradually, it turned out that lard is a very, very useful product that can be stored for a very long time. And not as nasty as corned beef or dried meat. Plus lard is an excellent preservative for all kinds of pates, terrines and other delicacies, and lard has become an indispensable part of sausages, sausages and wieners. And in general, modern European cuisine is nothing without lard.
The Hungarians, by the way, also picked up useful recipes from the Romans when they had fun with Attila and presented the world with Hungarian spig and cracklings. And greaves, you see, this is a very significant contribution to world culture.


The idea of ​​salting bacon on the territory of the future Russia (Kievan Rus) was adopted from the Europeans, back in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries of our era. There are mentions in the annals of the campaigns of Prince Oleg, who went to Byzantium and took tribute there, and in general, everything that he liked.

The idea was good, pigs were also found on the territory of Russia, so bacon took root here too.

But with Ukraine, more precisely, the territories that later became Ukraine, not everything is so blissful. Considering that many monastic documents (such as receipt orders for tithes) of the XNUMXth century and beyond have survived, it can be concluded that pork was not particularly found in Ukraine. Future Ukrainians preferred poultry, beef and lamb.

It's funny, but the fashion for pigs in the Ukrainian lands was brought ... by the Russians!

At a much later time, at the end of the XNUMXth century, when Russia moved towards the Dnieper, mastered the Left Bank and began to look to the other side. Having built towns and fortresses, placing garrisons there, the Russian command found out that it was necessary to import (more precisely, drive) pigs, since there were practically none of them in Ukraine.

No, there was enough food on Ukrainian soil, but lard was needed. A strategic military product that went to lubricate a firearm weapons, blades of cold weapons and water-repellent impregnation of shoes. It was a very valuable product, which was not very profitable to deliver the consignment note from Russia. The barrels took up a lot of space, and cheap and high-quality lubricant was consumed very quickly.

It was easier to start raising pigs at the garrisons. Which is exactly what happened. The local population willingly joined this exciting earnings, fortunately, there were absolutely no problems with feeding the pigs.


Raising pigs in huge numbers solved the problem of cheap and natural lubricant for cannons and handguns of the Russian troops. Nobody protested against meat either; it was bought from Ukrainian producers at the expense of the treasury on a regular basis.

It was not so nice with bacon. For salting, as expected, salt was needed in huge quantities. Salt on the territory of Ukraine was mined in Transcarpathia in the XNUMXst-XNUMXnd centuries BC, but the Solotvinskoe deposit was located quite far from the bases of the Russian troops and on an unfriendly territory.

There was still a lot of time before the discovery and development of the Artyomovsky (1876) and Slavyansky (1878) deposits, so salt was mainly used for this business from the sea, from the southern regions adjacent to the Black Sea.

It can be said that Ukraine became a lard producer during the reign of Peter the Great. It was then, when the Black Sea Fleet began to be built, when the Azov Wars and the war for the Crimea began, then in the articles of the army supplies and fleet the item "corned beef pork in barrels" appeared, and the governors of Ukrainian cities began to receive orders for supplying the army at the expense of the treasury - only then Little Russia / Ukraine really grunted in different voices.

Today, there is a cult of fat on the other side. So-so a reason for boasting, but ... If a product has been elevated to the status of a state cult, there is nothing to be done. We'll have to endure.

But the birth of this cult through the efforts of both the Ukrainian and Russian sides gave rise to a terrifying number of low-standard myths. Like blankets made of bacon, with which the Cossacks allegedly covered their cellars so that the Turks and Tatars did not get to them. Allegedly, Muslims, for whom a pig is a forbidden animal, disdained pork and lard.

Hard to believe. You know, a military campaign or a raid in those days is not like a voyage to the Crimean beaches today. There were no McDonald's or Burgerkings at every gas station.

As it seems to me, after studying some sources, all these tales about pork as it is are fairy tales. When there is a raid, there is no time for the Koran. If you eat pork, you’ll eat pork and you won’t go anywhere, because the Koran, of course, is an important thing and an indicative set, but the fight tomorrow, in conditions of some starvation, did not bode well.

And that is why, I am sure, there were not very many who preferred death to "clean" in contrast to life "slightly soiled" with pork. And in conditions when there are long distances from village to village - and even more so.

In general, in combat conditions any piglet will become a rabbit. And then you can repent about this, for without sin there is no repentance.

In addition, if again about the raids, so many historians in their works come across information that the Tatars and Ottomans, having “visited” villages on foreign territory, usually left them empty. Completely. Taking away also food supplies, everything valuable and - most importantly - the labor force in the person of the population. The population in such raids was driven away by everything, with the exception of those who either managed to escape and hide. And pork in all forms and lard, quite naturally, were taken away clean. The prisoners on the way also need to be fed with something, the path to the Turkish lands was very long.

So the "daring tale" about the Cossacks, who fought with pork against the Turks, will remain a fairy tale.

Yes, in the territory of today's Ukraine, pigs were bred and salted lard. And the lard was drowned. But purely for military-economic purposes: lubrication of guns and guns, flavoring cereals. Plus, the same corned beef was the best canned food on long campaigns of both the Russian troops and the Zaporozhye kurens.

So - the war of pork against Muslims is a myth, and a rather stupid one. But if someone likes it, let them repeat nonsense, the Internet will not stand it.

Now about the tastiest bacon in Ukraine.


Well, it's debatable. I would say that there it is more close to the classic one. Either the pigs' gene pool is better preserved, or something else, but in Russia today there is a dominance of bacon pig breeds. They grow faster and will be thicker.

Yes, in 2015 I got acquainted with "premium lard" from the outskirts of Alchevsk. 14-cm thick and divine taste, the very thing that is also called "soap". The most delicate product that melts on your tongue and with which it is unrealistic to stay sober and on your feet.

However, I will say that in the city of Grodno, lard is made not only as well, but even better. Although two years passed between the tests, the Grodno lard made an indelible impression on me. Actually, together with Grodno "star" moonshine. Our film crew has never been so close to cataclysm all the time.

But lard in / in Ukraine is not a strategic product that is everywhere. By the way, according to statistics, Ukrainians eat it much less than Russians. Ukraine is not even in the world top 10 in terms of fat consumption per capita.

Yes, the Ukrainians themselves say that this is because there are many pigs in private hands and it is more difficult to count them than in Europe, where you can easily count every piece of bacon.

I agree. Ukraine is quite difficult to account for. And in the hinterland, of course, every year they eat herds of pigs that are not included in the general statistics. But all the same, this is not a reason to raise lard into a cult. We salt, and no worse. And Voronezh, and Oryol, and Belgorod bacon are in no way inferior to Ukrainian.

And in Europe, if anyone is interested, Denmark occupies a solid first place in the use of bacon and bacon (well, that's how they all get in the way, infidels!). The second place is Germany. Hungary, France and Italy are fighting for the third.

No wonder at all. For the Europeans have a thousand-year-old culture of production and use of lard. And there are also a lot of masters who know how to pickle according to all the rules.


In general, it is interesting how a product of long-term storage, obtained from pigs and hogs, focused on unpretentious slaves and galley rowers of ancient Rome, in fact, a product with a militaristic bias, became a delicacy that can decorate any table.

However, salted bacon is included in the Russian IRP. Eating it is still a feat, but melting fat for the same kulesh is quite acceptable.

In principle, despite its antiquity, bacon was and is a soldier's best friend. Because it is high in calories, it does not take up much space and this tasty thing is well-cooked bacon. And you don't need to make a cult out of it, as some do, you just need to use it. With pleasure.


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  1. +52
    4 December 2021 05: 46
    If the author had written this on a Ukrainian resource, he would have ended up in the Myrotvorets database on the same day.
    Because of the borscht, they all started screaming, and then there was bacon.
    1. +57
      4 December 2021 07: 29
      Lard belongs to all progressive humanity!
      - Who in the world is sweetest, blush and whiter?
      - Salo!!!
      1. +14
        4 December 2021 08: 54
        Quote: Crowe
        Lard belongs to all progressive humanity!
        - Who in the world is sweetest, blush and whiter?
        - Salo!!!

        And nevertheless, no one about him is so "drunk ..." pitiful ... as a true connoisseur ...
      2. +26
        4 December 2021 13: 46
        Quote: Crowe
        Lard belongs to all progressive humanity!

        And in combination with war, progress sometimes comes very quickly ... My father had an acquaintance, he was called up in 1942, almost after the first battle, a unit was sent to re-form, and he was sent to the hospital. After the hospital, to the officer's school. They had a set of soldiers from Kazan and Tatars. Real - namaz and all other things that were supposed to be performed as it should and when it should be, but ... They were supposed to have a reinforced ration, some of which was 100 grams of lard for dinner with porridge. This was an insult and began to grab the knives. But the front-line soldiers quickly reassured them - it is not supposed to be done by faith, so we will eat. And we ate, though only ten days. And then - drag the DShK through the Ural snow ... In two weeks everyone ate bacon, and by the end of the training, no one was praying - progress was evident.
        Stepan said that later, in 1944, he had a chance to meet with one of the most "irreconcilable" he was already a captain - he ate bacon, drank alcohol (without fanaticism) and became an atheist and internationalist.
        1. +15
          4 December 2021 15: 32
          So all Uzbeks and Tajiks said: "We are under the roof, Allah does not see"
          1. 0
            4 December 2021 15: 33
            Quote: mmaxx
            So all Uzbeks and Tajiks said: "We are under the roof, Allah does not see"

            In 1943, Uzbeks and Tajiks were not conscripted ..
            1. +7
              4 December 2021 15: 41
              This is not then, but at other times)))
              1. +2
                4 December 2021 15: 44
                Quote: mmaxx
                and at other times)))

                I kind of understand feel wink just at the beginning of the war, the faithful were much stricter - the rural population was larger ...
                1. +19
                  4 December 2021 15: 47
                  It seems to me that in the army in a couple of weeks the most persistent orthodox will eat and drink. laughing
                  1. +5
                    4 December 2021 15: 50
                    during the war, in addition to physical exertion, there are still more mental and moral ... and then the front-line soldiers reveal "prospects" ... especially for the officer's school they were selected with a 9-tap hole ...
                  2. AAK
                    +13
                    4 December 2021 16: 52
                    Definitely, after the first month of the KMB in our unit, even the most "irreconcilable fighters for independence" from Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and even (Karl) Chechens cracked pork (there was simply no other meat in the kitchen), as well as lard and sausage with bacon
                    1. +5
                      5 December 2021 12: 08
                      Why even Chechens? Before perestroika, they were not particularly religious. And even now, for many of them, it is of a feigned nature.
                      1. AAK
                        +2
                        6 December 2021 23: 50
                        Dear Sergey! The point is even, as you rightly noted, not in religiosity, which was really more feigned (although each of them remembered Allah and Muhammad ten times a day), but in the demonstration (and their own feeling) of their chosenness even among Muslim peoples. In the fall of 1983, our unit had a large team of conscripts from Chechnya, 60-70 people, plus at the unit (the RTV Air Defense Training Center) there were attached "blue-runners" of 30 people, they guarded the warehouses with aviation equipment, which were located in our unit, and there half also the Chechens were. These "proud Vainakhs" considered themselves the first grade, like they were the best warriors for centuries (they say the best troops of the Turkish Sultan were Chechens, the Baghdad Caliph had the same thing, and the King of Jordan still has a Chechen Guard, and since Shamil, the Russian tsar for 50 years could not do anything, well, etc.), and the best and most correct Muslims, clearly following the Koran and Sharia adats, they too (they looked at the Central Asians, especially Uzbeks and Kazakhs with the Kirghiz, with frank contempt and snorted as best they could, and with the Turkmen and Tajiks, especially mountainous from the Pamirs, they often clashed in fights.) In general, the guys were very problematic, very intelligent, impudent, vicious, and some were frankly fierce. So, at the beginning of the starving Central Asians who were eating pork and lard, they called the pigs and the donkey children, but after a couple of months they also began to eat the fried pork served for the second, and they tried to choose (including sometimes even select) pure meat pieces without lard .. ...
                      2. 0
                        7 December 2021 20: 02
                        Thank you for such a detailed answer!
                  3. AUL
                    +4
                    4 December 2021 21: 05
                    Quote: mmaxx
                    It seems to me that in the army in a couple of weeks the most persistent orthodox will eat and drink.

                    When I served (70 - 71 years) it was so! Naturally, there was no meat in borscht and soups, there was boiled bacon. The first couple of weeks the Muslim guys went hungry, and then they cracked this fat in full growth!
                    1. -1
                      6 December 2021 14: 11
                      And what was the difference between the mid-80s? Yes, NOTHING! winked
            2. +5
              5 December 2021 12: 06
              When a student participated in the compilation of the "Book of Memory" card index, he repeatedly met materials about Tajiks, Uzbeks and Turkmens, who were called up in 1943-1944. I myself saw many front-line soldiers from among the representatives of the peoples of Central Asia, including officers, at various ceremonial events during my school and student years. Many myths have been created on this topic, in my opinion.
              1. +1
                5 December 2021 12: 14
                Quote: Sergej1972
                Many myths have been created on this topic, in my opinion.

                And if you just read the orders of the State Defense Committee of the USSR about the conscription in 1943-44, then they will not be at all ... Read a lot of questions yourself will disappear ..
                1. +5
                  5 December 2021 12: 46
                  Where, then, did the hundreds of thousands of Uzbeks and Tajiks who perished, thousands of order-bearers during the war years come from? In 1943, when the Kursk and Oryol regions were liberated, there were many Central Asians among the Red Army soldiers. While processing the materials of the military registration and enlistment offices, I met a lot of materials about the Central Asians who were killed and wounded during this period. To be honest, there were also cards indicating that one or another soldier was shot for cowardice or failure to comply with an order. I think sometimes it was due to poor knowledge of the Russian language. However, information about the execution of Slavic soldiers also came across. And May 1945 - "death from ethyl alcohol poisoning" was repeatedly encountered in documents.
                  1. -2
                    5 December 2021 12: 48
                    Have you all read the documents?
                    1. +2
                      5 December 2021 13: 09
                      And the materials of the regional and district military enlistment offices, their card indexes are not documents?
                      1. -1
                        5 December 2021 13: 24
                        Quote: Sergej1972
                        And the materials of the regional and district military enlistment offices, their card indexes are not documents?

                        And did they determine the state policy or did they execute the orders of the State Defense Committee?
                  2. +1
                    6 December 2021 14: 52
                    Top secret.

                    State Defense Committee
                    Decision No. GOKO-4322ss of October 13, 1943
                    Moscow Kremlin.

                    On the draft for military service of draftees born in 1926

                    The State Defense Committee decides:

                    1. To oblige an NPO (i.e. Smorodinova) to call up to military service all the male citizens born in 15 (including those who are in the territory freed from the enemy) by November 1943, 1926, regardless of their place of work or positions, except working enterprises of the NK Ammunition, NK Armament, NK Mortar weapons, NK Aviation industry, NK Tank industry, NK Coal industry, NK Oil industry, NK Ferrous metallurgy, NK Non-ferrous metallurgy, NK Power plants, NK Electrical industry, NK T heavy machinery, NK Machine-tool industry, NK Railways, NK Sea Fleet, NK River Fleet and Glavsevmorput, with qualifications of 3 categories and above.

                    Conscripts of local nationalities are not subject to draft: Uzbek, Tajik, Turkmen, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Georgian, Armenian and Azerbaijani Soviet Socialist Republics, Dagestan, Chechen-Ingush, Kabardino-Balkarian, North Ossetian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics and Adygea and Karachay, areas.

                    2. To oblige the Komvoiski of the Far Eastern Front (t. Purkayev) to allocate 1943 people for two months (November, December 100.000). trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and transfer to the replenishment of units of the army under the direction of the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

                    3. To oblige the Komvoiski of the Transbaikal Front (t. Kovaleva) to allocate 1943 people for two months (November, December 35.000). trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and transfer to the replenishment of units of the army under the direction of the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

                    4. To oblige the Komvoiski of the Transcaucasian Front to allocate 1943 people for two months (November, December 30.000). trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and to transfer to the replenishment of units of the army under the direction of the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

                    5. To oblige the Commander of the Artillery of the Red Army (Comrade Voronov) within two months (December 1943 and January 1944) to allocate 30.000 people from parts of the Western and Eastern air defense fronts and the Moscow Special Air Defense Army. trained ordinary and sergeant, suitable for military service, and transfer to replenish the units of the army as directed by the head of the Main Directorate of the Red Army.

                    6. To oblige the head of the Glavupraform, Comrade Smorodinov:

                    a) in exchange for the released rank and file and sergeant (paras. 2, 3, 4 and 5) to transfer until December 15, 1943: to the troops of the Far Eastern Front - 100.000 people, to the troops of the Transbaikal Front - 35.000 people, to the troops of the Transcaucasian Front - 30.000 people, 30.000 people in the Air Defense Forces, and a total of 195.000 conscripts born in 1926;

                    b) concentrate the rest of the conscripts born in 1926 in spare, training units and special schools, setting a six-month training period for them, prohibiting anyone from using them ahead of time to equip the units of the army.

                    7. To oblige the NKPS (Comrade Kaganovich) and the Chief of Logistics of the Red Army (Comrade Khrulev) to transport the contingents indicated in this resolution to the points and dates at the request of Commander of the Main Directorate of the Red Army Comrade Smorodinova.

                    CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE DEFENSE COMMITTEE I. STALIN

                    Sent so Molotov, Smorodinov, Zhukov, Kaganovich, Khrulev - that’s all. Chadayev - 1. Commanders of the Far East. front - 2, 6a - resp. Commander Zabaikalsk. front - 3, 6a - resp. Convoys of Transcaucasia. front - 4, 6a - resp. Voronov - 5, 6a - respectively.

                    Reason: RGASPI, 644 Foundation, inventory of 1, d.163, l.1-3.
                2. 0
                  5 December 2021 12: 48
                  About conscription in general, or about sending you to the army in the field?
                  1. 0
                    5 December 2021 12: 49
                    About conscription into the army ... not labor ...
          2. 0
            4 December 2021 19: 08
            The simpler option is to drag the pig through the yoke ... Mahan, the same way.
        2. +3
          4 December 2021 16: 54
          According to legend, when the question arose of how to feed the army in winter in the trenches, they found the old tsar's quartermaster, he to Joseph Vissarionovich and replied that the army would be saved in winter by "three Cs" - Salo, Alcohol, Sukhar
          1. -2
            6 December 2021 06: 35
            Quote: d ^ Amir
            According to legend, when the question arose of how to feed the army in winter in the trenches, they found the old tsar's quartermaster, he to Joseph Vissarionovich and replied that the army would be saved in winter by "three Cs" - Salo, Alcohol, Sukhar

            American stew fed the army and officials
      3. 0
        10 January 2022 23: 50
        I AGREE !! and women are evil!
    2. -43
      4 December 2021 10: 23
      an article in honor of the official history.
      Of course, since "everything is from the Romans", then the bacon is also from the Romans, as oishnyh historians say, so it is necessary to repeat this to the local writers of articles.

      Meanwhile, Ukraine is not even included in the top ten countries in the world for the consumption of lard.

      but how can Ukraine with its 40 million. population equal to 1.5 mln. China or 1.2billion India? "Not even included" ... It's stupid to say that at all.

      The ancient Romans were the inventors of lard.

      So the versions that they spied on the recipe from the Phoenician pirates or Carthaginians have a right to life.

      However, the evidence is provided by the very ancient preserved salting containers.


      so, lie on lie.

      the fact that the "other Romans" were the first inventors of sala is one of the myths for supporting OI.
      The fact that marble vessels were containers for salting lard, well, they were in Italy and beyond, what, how can this serve as proof that the "Drimlyans" were the first?
      The joke about the fact that the civilization of Rome is based on the culture of EtRusks is better not to mention, so as not to arouse "unhealthy" interest.

      Lardo "was made from Chinto Senese, this is a breed of Italian pigs, nimble, such black pigs, agile and lively. Sounds like the word lard, doesn't it?



      Of course not.
      One of the components of delicious lard is a PINK soft skin, while Italians are black, which is not the same, therefore, Italians are black.

      -Lardo is a Russian l_Orda i.e. lard is an ORDYN product.
      This is read in the very name of the research object.

      The idea of ​​salting bacon on the territory of the future Russia (Kievan Rus) was adopted from the Europeans, back in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries of our era. There are mentions in the annals of the campaigns of Prince Oleg, who went to Byzantium and took tribute there, and in general, everything that he liked.



      This is a fox tupism, in fact, for the sake of this phrase, the article was written.

      Buffoons, pigs in the world are found EVERYWHERE !! Why the hell, the Russians sat and waited, or maybe they ate the meat, and threw out the bacon, because you see the opinion of the ophistorikof "the recipe has not yet reached" the barbarians.
      Combining salt and meat / lard is a process that does not require special mental costs, but since lard has become a bogey, then, as usual with a historian, this process must be saddled and put at the head / to the origins of someone, for example, the Drimlyans, it's funnier, and as proof of this, marble baths , since marble baths are used in Italy, they were also used in drrim, and once in drrim, then the fat came from them without fail.
      We will not believe it.

      The Hungarians, by the way, also picked up useful recipes from the Romans when they had fun with Attila and presented the world with Hungarian spig and cracklings.

      -shpik-w / se / this is a peak / g-this is a pig, i.e. fat-word is most likely not Hungarian, but English,
      -pig pig

      Having built towns and fortresses, placing garrisons there, the Russian command found out that it was necessary to import (more precisely, drive) pigs, since there were practically none of them in Ukraine.


      Proof of Skomorokhov, why were there no pigs in Ukraine?

      And not as nasty as corned beef or dried meat.


      lard and corned beef Skomorokhov are the same thing, and dried / jerky meat can be very tasty.


      We can say that Ukraine became the producer of lard under Peter the Great.


      yeah, how can it be without it? And before the Russian armies, the same ushkuyniki, Dmitry Donskoy, Alexander Nevsky on campaigns, probably ate the earth, instead of corned beef?

      The article is an ideological weapon against history, against common sense, against Russians. It was written for EG graduates, i.e. unable to use their head.
      1. +34
        4 December 2021 13: 41
        Eco bombed you ... request
        1. -30
          4 December 2021 13: 44
          Well, I can do it, but you don’t.
        2. +6
          5 December 2021 17: 04
          but how can Ukraine with its 40 million. population equal to 1.5 mln. China or 1.2billion India? "Not even included" ... It's stupid to say that at all.

          The term "consumption for per capita“Apparently, he doesn’t say anything to a citizen. And then there was just selected nonsense, in the style of Zadornov, about the Etruscans / Russians, etc.
        3. 0
          6 December 2021 10: 47
          Quote: Popuas
          Eco bombed you ...

          Do you really think that where pigs were raised, you did not know about lard ?! belay belay belay
          Those. in your opinion, the Russians are so narrow-minded that they could not figure out ...
          Ndass ... you really are Popuas ... lol lol lol
      2. +3
        5 December 2021 12: 12
        India has about 1,4 billion population, the Chinese have a little more than 1,4 billion. In the next few years, India will overtake China in terms of population. Moreover, the territory is almost three times smaller. This is not on the main topic of the material under discussion, but just for reference.
      3. +2
        5 December 2021 22: 18
        Some kind of schizoid clinic.
    3. +5
      4 December 2021 10: 31
      Because of the borscht, they all started screaming, and then there was bacon.

      So what comes first in history ?? (chicken or egg?))))
      1. +12
        4 December 2021 12: 07
        The answer is simple and banal: Velikoukr was the first on Earth (see The Legend of Gilgamesh). About the origin of lard as a consumer product, the author is trying to sow vile doubts about the immutable truth, you know what it is!
        1. +4
          6 December 2021 00: 06
          I wrote an essay for the minimum candidate's degree in philosophy. Of the options for the proposed topics in the manual, such as: "philosophical foundations of geology" I was not impressed by anything, and I came up with my own. Something about "immortality, as it is understood in different cultures, religions, and how immortality is understood in modern realities." That's when I got acquainted with "The Legend of Gilgamesh". And he was not averse to extending his life indefinitely. Three pages of text from the book provided the volume of the abstract. "True immortality is not in endless life, but in the fact that your descendants will forever remember you." I passed the exam and forgot everything. And here I remembered about Gilgamesh, about the essay, about my thoughts and conclusions.
          I hope that the names of our Victory Marshals will be remembered longer than the scum from the OUN / UPA. And accordingly, THEY will be eternal, and oblivion awaits these.
    4. -20
      4 December 2021 10: 47
      separately, it must be said about the use of fat as a lubricant for weapons and shoes.
      A strategic military product that went for the lubrication of firearms, blades of knives and water-repellent impregnation of shoes.


      I cannot imagine the use of lard as a lubricant for weapons and shoes, for the axles of carts.
      Sitting such a Cossack, takes a piece of bacon and begins to rub his saber and clean the trunk with pieces of bacon? The picture is incredible. The Cossack himself is better at using bacon inside, especially since the warrior / soldier always wants to eat.
      Pork fat, especially in the cold, freezes and turns into a dense and brittle substance that thickens and falls off in pieces, therefore moisture and further rust penetrate to the already unprotected metal, how metal products are combined with pork fat is not clear.
      I know that locksmiths categorically prohibit the use of vegetable oils for the lubrication of locks, which thicken and spoil the locks, and the fat thickens even more.

      Here it is better to talk about the use, as a lubricant of weapons and footwear, of Birch DON, and probably birch, as a less smelly product. But where there has always been plenty of birch groves, this is already Russia, tar was called so in Europe - Rusko oil. Applied by the way for the manufacture of YUFT is the same - this is "Russian leather" - that is what they called it.

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дёготь
      1. +18
        4 December 2021 10: 56
        I can't imagine the use of fat as a lubricant for weapons and shoes,

        1. -14
          4 December 2021 11: 07
          Interestingly, what then did the Turks clean and lubricate their weapons with?
          1. +11
            4 December 2021 11: 11
            ,,, but the fact is, it is even spelled out in the charter.
            1. -11
              4 December 2021 11: 14
              The left-hander then said that the British did not clean their weapons with a brick and was trying to convey this "knowledge" to the king. There are many myths around the world.
              1. +6
                4 December 2021 11: 15
                ,, on this I agree with you hi
              2. +5
                4 December 2021 13: 14
                Lefty said that the British do not clean weapons with bricks
                cleaned as much as I read for reviews. Rather, they cleaned the barrel bore, probably the barrel itself so that it would shine like a cat's sexual characteristics and delight the eyes of the authorities.
                And yes - cleaning and lubrication are quite different processes and have slightly different goals.
                1. -12
                  4 December 2021 13: 31
                  Quote: Region-25.rus
                  cleaned as much as I read for reviews. Rather, they cleaned the bore, probably by themselves


                  Leskov N.S. "Lefty"


                  But it was only when Martyn-Solsky arrived that the left-hander was already over, because the back of his head had split against the paratha, and he could only articulate one thing:

                  - Tell the sovereign that the British do not clean their guns with bricks: let them not clean them here either, otherwise, God save the war, they are not good for shooting.

                  And with this loyalty, the left-hander crossed himself and died.
                  1. +2
                    4 December 2021 13: 35
                    otherwise, god of war, they are not good for shooting.
                    of course! The bore (after all, the steel was not so hot) was erased from such "cleaning", the caliber increased, the powder gases burst ahead of the bullet. Accordingly, the range of the shot, as well as the destructive force, decreased. So what? For the first time in the world, in pursuit of the outer veneer, the combat characteristics were ruined? The Germans were also involved in shagistics at one time. That would be beautiful. The British put an external polish on their ships and rarely fired (for which they paid at Jutland) ... and ..... what?
              3. +5
                4 December 2021 13: 15
                Quote: Bar1
                The left-hander then said that the British did not clean their weapons with a brick and was trying to convey this "knowledge" to the king. There are many myths around the world.

                The sepoy revolt was due to the salted English patrons.
                1. +3
                  4 December 2021 13: 40
                  The sepoy revolt was due to the salted English patrons.
                  but I thought all my life that because of the colonial lawlessness of the British!
                  It's like "The October Revolution of 1917 happened because the Germans paid Lenin." Or the uprising on the battleship Potemkin over poor-quality meat. Everything was wonderful. Once upon a time, we didn’t grieve, we drank champagne, pockets of salaries burst and then the meat was brought in yesterday’s freshness and .... to Romania and only because of meat, greasy cartridges ....? Well no. the reasons were much deeper and more serious.
                  1. +5
                    4 December 2021 15: 30
                    Quote: Region-25.rus
                    but I thought all my life that because of the colonial lawlessness of the British!

                    Horseradish radish is not sweeter. Just the last straw of the arrest of the sepoys who refused to use the cartridges. Like the murder of Ferdinand.
                    1. +4
                      4 December 2021 15: 34
                      Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
                      Well, how can I say ... rather I think it was the very "straw that broke the back of a camel." Well, or "the last straw".
                      1. +2
                        4 December 2021 15: 37
                        Quote: Region-25.rus
                        Well, or "the last straw".

                        I was completing the comment when the call from you rang.
                      2. +2
                        4 December 2021 16: 28
                        I was completing the comment when the call from you rang.
                        is drinks hi
                    2. +7
                      4 December 2021 18: 08
                      "Which Ferdinand? I know two, one who mistakenly drank a bottle of hair-growing fluid, and the other who collects dog shit. I don't mind both of them a bit." lol
                      1. +2
                        4 December 2021 18: 35
                        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
                        and another who collects dog shit.

                        This very one. Or his offspring, I don't remember already. Degree sclerosis. They pulled out a tooth, drank a check, I finish drinking a liter of wine, then I'll lacquer everything with beer ... And for a snack - only bacon ... I'm already tired, and the hole from the tooth doesn't want to stop hurting. What a trash ...
                    3. AUL
                      +1
                      4 December 2021 21: 31
                      Do not confuse the cause of the war (uprising) and the reason for them. The cause of the sepoy uprising was the colonial policy of Britain, and greasy patrons became the last straw, the reason for the uprising. So is the murder of Ferdinand. Who was he in himself so that the world war would start because of him? but a small boot! It's just that in Europe, the confrontation has become so heated that the slightest push was enough for the DB. Sarajevo became such an impetus.
                      By the way, the current situation in the world is very similar to the one in 1914. Alas...
                      1. +1
                        4 December 2021 21: 36
                        Quote from AUL
                        The cause of the sepoy uprising was the colonial policy of Britain, and greasy patrons became the last straw, the reason for the uprising. So is the murder of Ferdinand.

                        So my idea is one hundred percent the same as yours, I just wrote it differently.
          2. +11
            4 December 2021 12: 22
            did the Turks grease their weapons?
            Insides of sheep fat.
            The sepoy revolt happened because they issued a new sample of paper cartridges and there was a rumor that the paper was impregnated with a mixture of melted fat from pigs (haram for Muslims) and cows (taboo for Hindus). In fact, it was like a wax for water resistance. Thus, both religious groups were offended (the paper cartridge was bitten, that is, theoretically, the fat was eaten). Something like this.
            1. -6
              4 December 2021 12: 36
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              Insides of sheep fat.

              mutton fat is even worse than lard, it thickens faster and stinks so that you can forget about such a thing as culture.
              1. +10
                4 December 2021 12: 38
                Soldiers in the campaigns of those times and so smacked of robustness. Yes, and solid oil has not yet been invented.
                1. +12
                  4 December 2021 14: 07
                  the campaigns of those times and so smacked of robustness
                  and in ours too. especially during hostilities. Yes, and I myself remember that in the outgoing guard (in a freight car for 25 days across the whole country) there was a "smelled" so that the railroad workers at the stations shied away from us laughing Once they were able to rinse. When the h.z stopped. where is some village. And the paths had a well. So we grabbed our clothes and the three of us went there. One lifted a bucket of water, splashed on the spread cotton and vests, and my friend and I rubbed it all with soap as usual. Indiscriminately someone else's or yours. then they doused themselves with cold water and ... the composition started)))
                  ps
                  it is immediately clear that "Bar1" is a dyvanny expert)) "And it seems to me, but I think ... then it is so"
                  1. +4
                    4 December 2021 14: 10
                    An acquaintance told me that he simply peeled off the socks from the feet along with the skin, despite the desert boots (in Iraq).
                    1. +11
                      4 December 2021 14: 24
                      An acquaintance told me that he simply peeled off the socks from the feet along with the skin, despite the desert boots (in Iraq).
                      quite possibly. Given that climate. I didn’t come to that))) I remember in 92 me, and two more sailors, led by a hunter, were thrown into the taiga wilderness (Khabarovsk Territory, Tumnin River). We were so happy that we had simple tarpaulin boots. You go to the exit, one set of footcloths on your legs, the second on your neck (at least some kind of protection from the gnat). The first ones got wet, drained the water from the boots, wrapped the dry ones, wet ones around the neck and beyond. And what about the smell .. well, "To firmly endure the burden and deprivation of military service" no one has canceled. Yes, and a high bootleg saved more than once from snakes. Three times the vipers tried to bite but ... apparently the tarpaulin did not suit the taste. By the way, they did not take shoe polish with them and greased it ... guess? laughing
                      1. +10
                        4 December 2021 14: 26
                        did not take and greased ... guess?
                        Secretions of the bartholin glands of a virgin belay ?
                      2. +5
                        4 December 2021 14: 27
                        Secretions of the bartholin glands of a virgin
                        yes stupidly bacon ... boar. true from the wild, not really it can be "cut" This is not a domestic pig after all)))
                      3. +3
                        4 December 2021 14: 29
                        Lard (I use peel-off trimmings) softens the leather of the boots well.
                      4. +2
                        4 December 2021 14: 30
                        especially if you walk three times wink
                      5. +3
                        4 December 2021 14: 34
                        And leave to soak overnight. It is always necessary to "update" new shoes. They say, however, that ointment with wax is better - but the lard has not let me down yet. I wore Corcoran for 5 years every day until the sole just crumbled. I put the leather on the key chains, it's better to look new.
                      6. +2
                        4 December 2021 14: 51
                        And leave to soak overnight
                        not well, it goes without saying. Default. For if, after processing, immediately cross a stream or river, only translate lard)))
                      7. +3
                        4 December 2021 15: 26
                        I once used "Cossacks" of individual tailoring with castor oil, on the advice of the master.
                      8. +1
                        4 December 2021 15: 41
                        Melting coconut oil, wax, grape seed oil, and castor oil is recommended in the States for saddles.
                      9. +2
                        4 December 2021 15: 47
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Coconut oil melt,

                        they also kneaded napalm in coconut oil ..
                      10. +1
                        4 December 2021 15: 51
                        The original napalm was kneaded into ATftenate and PALMItate aluminum. (Salts of naphthenic and palmitic acids) This is how the fire mixture can be thickened with finely broken pieces of margarita cans.
                      11. +1
                        4 December 2021 15: 52
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        The original napalm was kneaded on NAPHTENATE and ALUMINUM PALMITATE. (Salts of naphthenic and palmitic acids)

                        which were originally extracted from coconut oil ..
                      12. 0
                        4 December 2021 15: 55
                        Naphthenic is from heavy grades of oil, and palmitic is from palm oil (not coconut, but oil palms). Something like this.
                      13. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 00
                        we also mention napalm, which, although not a chemical warfare agent in the literal sense of the word, is a very cruel weapon of destruction. Napalm is a mixture of cyclohexanecarboxylic and fatty acid aluminum salts (from coconut oil) suspended in gasoline. Its name was formed because. combustion is initiated by sodium, and among fatty acids. palmitic acid predominates. Fire caused by napalm is nearly impossible to extinguish with water. During the fighting, napalm was used in incendiary bombs and flamethrowers. [c.339] "Chemist's Handbook"
                      14. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 04
                        I read an English article. They wrote about palmitic acid from palm oil.
                      15. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 05
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        They wrote about palmitic acid from palm oil.

                        coconut - palm wink
                      16. +2
                        4 December 2021 16: 11
                        coconut - palm
                        Cocos nucifera, genus cocos. She gives coconuts, and from coconuts, coconut oil. And the oil palm-elaeis giuneensis, genus elaeis, bears fruits from which palm oil is obtained. There is also elaeis oleifera (in the New World), but it is not so fruitful. It seems like it was. In general, palm trees (i.e., palms in common parlance) are a large family of plants.
                      17. 0
                        4 December 2021 16: 16
                        Coconut palma (Latin Cócos nucífera) is a plant of the Palm family (Arecaceae); the only species of the genus Cocos. Coconut oil is a vegetable oil obtained from copra. Kopra [(from malayal. കൊപ്ര “kopara”) - dried oily pulp (secondary endosperm) of coconuts.
                        Butter, there is a lot of it feel about get
                      18. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 20
                        In English, coconut and palm oils are called different words. Coconut, by analogy with butter-butter (sometimes fat) And palm, like other liquid vegetable-oil.
                        Coconut oil is a vegetable oil obtained from copra.
                        And palm - from the fruit of the oil palm.
                      19. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 25
                        I read about napalm back in the late 70s ... there it was about coconuts and they humored ... The scientific name of the genus comes from the Portuguese word coco ("monkey") - the Americans called the Vietnamese "yellow monkeys" all over the place ... like let's throw a monkey to the monkeys - made from coconuts .. such humor from the heat of war ..
                      20. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 29
                        Portuguese word coco (monkey)
                        Monkey in Portuguese is macaco. I doubt, however, that the American GIs knew Portuguese.
                      21. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 52
                        I understand that I meant a specific monkey - Galago cocos ..... the muzzle is very similar to a coconut ..
                      22. +2
                        4 December 2021 16: 56
                        And the likelihood that JiAi owned Latin and were savvy in zoology is near zero. Rather, for such words, they immediately hit the face wassat ... Although anything can be.
                      23. +1
                        4 December 2021 17: 05
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And the likelihood that JiAi owned Latin and were savvy in zoology is near zero.

                        rather even lower .. but they knew for sure about the coconuts ... then maybe they just "threw nuts" ...
                      24. 0
                        4 December 2021 17: 10
                        military review number 7 october 1953 page 13: coconut fatty acid - coconut fatty acid .... as a component of napalm ..
                      25. +1
                        4 December 2021 17: 18
                        coconut fatty acid - coconut fatty acid
                        This is not an acid, but a mixture of acids, a cracked coconut oil product. All fatty acids contained in coconut oil fats in the mixture are distilled off and purified. But this is a mixture - like kerosene, there is a mixture of hydrocarbons, not a pure chemical. If you don't believe me, find the formula for COCONUT ACID. It is not in RubChem.
                      26. +1
                        4 December 2021 17: 22
                        We are talking about a military magazine of 1953 ... they themselves said about DzhI that very intelligent guys just threw them without details ...
                      27. +3
                        4 December 2021 16: 33
                        And palm - from the fruit of the oil palm.
                        they just started with lard as a product, continued about the use of weapons and ammunition for maintenance, smoothly flowed to napalm and varieties of coconut oils, another hour and ..... "here, following the light beam! Without help, but with the help of! I'm flying this whale! What would we deal with it on the spot! " (c) V.S. Vysotsky laughing
                      28. +2
                        4 December 2021 16: 34
                        But on a military theme, not pro-Hyperborean reptilians Yes .
                      29. +1
                        4 December 2021 17: 15
                        Quote: Region-25.rus
                        started just with lard as a product, continued about using weapons and ammunition for maintenance, smoothly flowed to napalm and varieties of coconut oils, another hour and ..

                        So without "fats" no matter how feel lol What's in the "fields", what's in the "Internet" ...
                      30. +1
                        4 December 2021 15: 58
                        Solar oil and bitumen, I really don't remember the proportions
                      31. +2
                        4 December 2021 16: 02
                        Much more fun is pyrogel-aluminum powder and ammonium perchlorate in thickened gasoline. It burns through the steel roof and does not go out from anything (oxidizer in the composition).
                      32. 0
                        4 December 2021 21: 47
                        Any thickener, sugar, for example.
                      33. +2
                        4 December 2021 15: 55
                        I strongly doubt that the master, an old Armenian, assumed the existence of such a product as coconut oil ...
                      34. +1
                        4 December 2021 19: 08
                        I support! Castor oil only !!! And nothing more and better.
                    2. 0
                      5 December 2021 11: 40
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      An acquaintance told me that he simply peeled off the socks from the feet along with the skin, despite the desert boots (in Iraq).

                      Himself to blame. Go and drank clear, cold spring water, in which there are drops of minerals and salts. In the desert and in the heat, but when you trample kilometers, you can't do that.
                      With sweat, a lot of salts and minerals are lost, and if you replenish only water, then the cells of the body begin to swell and burst. Especially in places of mechanical stress - on the feet.
                      It is a pity that their Uzbeks or Kazakhs did not teach them how to drink salty tea.
                      1. 0
                        5 December 2021 11: 43
                        pure spring cold water,
                        And the spring under the Hammer Yes ... They drank mineral water and isotonic drinks (the powder was diluted in mineral water, who had a supply).
                      2. 0
                        5 December 2021 11: 55
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        They drank mineral water and isotonic drinks (the powder was diluted in mineral water, who had a supply).

                        God bless him. Let them replenish .... who had a stock. But it doesn't have to be that way. Although if they did not remove the decks for 12 hours (at least to turn the sock), then the sweat could blind everything in one pile.
                      3. 0
                        5 December 2021 11: 59
                        Mineral water was in abundance, although they could have given her hands to her forehead for trying to wash her hands. Isotonic - the soldiers brought their own.
                      4. 0
                        5 December 2021 12: 13
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Mineral water was in abundance, although they could have given her hands to her forehead for trying to wash her hands. Isotonic - the soldiers brought their own.

                        Even highly mineralized drinking water is not enough to replenish the loss of cations and retain water outside the cells.
                        Let's say for a brisk walk of 25-30 km at T + 35 / + 40 degrees C, wrapped in a uniform with breech luggage, It is advisable to spend 3-4 liters of "Plazmolayt" (physiological solution of basic minerals and salts) and add another teaspoon of sodium chloride.
                        Isotonic drugs have one problem. If you interfere with them on a small volume, then they can also pull the water in the intestines over themselves.
                        There are many nuances. Yes, you probably know. I don't even know which is worse, the heat in the desert, or the frost ... You can adapt the bacon from frost, but from the heat ..
                    3. -1
                      5 December 2021 20: 32
                      and if footcloths would be? probably would have lasted longer
            2. -3
              4 December 2021 16: 06
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              Insides of sheep fat.


              not internal fat, the ram does not have it, but there is fat tail fat, simply called fat tail. Quite a tasty thing and not all ram breeds have this, and in general it is wasteful to transfer such a product to the lubrication of a piece of iron.
              1. +1
                4 December 2021 16: 15
                the ram doesn't have it
                A kilogram of halal rendered lamb fat costs 10 pounds tongue ... They sell in east London.
                1. -3
                  4 December 2021 16: 33
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  A kilogram of halal rendered lamb fat costs 10 pounds. They sell in east London.


                  how the general literacy here fell on this topvo, but how differently if such articles appear here.
                  The ram just has fat - not lard, not more inside. There are fat tail rams - this is a different breed and fat tail is not internal fat and not fat from under the skin, and not lard.
                  Lamb fat is not tasty for example on the ribs, in contrast to the fat tail.
                  And a halal product is something that a devout Muslim can use, so a ram is already halal / galal by default and says that "mutton fat is halal" is butter.
                  1. +3
                    4 December 2021 16: 37
                    ram is already halal / galal by default
                    Again by. He must also be stabbed to death in a special way (and only by a man).
                    1. -3
                      4 December 2021 16: 39
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      five past. He must also be stabbed to death in a special way (and only by a man).


                      very subtle remark, very ...
                  2. +4
                    4 December 2021 17: 49
                    Quote: Bar1
                    Lamb fat is not tasty for example on the ribs, in contrast to the fat tail.

                    Well, it's like someone. Today I roasted lamb ribs and did not remove the fat from them. Fried to a crisp. Tasty.
                    1. -1
                      4 December 2021 18: 50
                      Quote: Ua3qhp
                      Well, it's like someone. Today I roasted lamb ribs and did not remove the fat from them. Fried to a crisp. Tasty.


                      and then take and eat fat from cooled meat or frozen from a frying pan, it will be delicious for you.
                      And lard is tasty and cold and hot and fat tail too.
                      1. +1
                        4 December 2021 22: 54
                        Quote: Bar1
                        And lard is tasty and cold and hot and fat tail too.

                        Who would argue about fat.
                        Lamb lard with salt is also good. But the fat tail did not come to me not hot, not cold.
                  3. -1
                    5 December 2021 22: 22
                    What are you talking about, have you even eaten a ram?
          3. +1
            4 December 2021 17: 40
            rendered beef, goose, lamb fat. Doesn't fit?
          4. +1
            4 December 2021 18: 27
            Lamb fat.
          5. +1
            5 December 2021 17: 10
            But pigs apparently only have fat? The Turks did not breed sheep. And any rendered animal fat will do.
        2. -5
          4 December 2021 12: 42
          found an article on gun care.
          It is IMPOSSIBLE to use lard for lubricating weapons, here it is necessary to talk about the preliminary purification of pork fat, as well as bone / olive oil.
          The fat is heated and then the sediment is poured off, and so several times, drying oil is dehydrated by pouring molten lead, the same thing several times.
          In short, weapon processing is not an easy process and requires knowledge and experience.



          https://jurgen-m.livejournal.com/305007.html
          1. +4
            4 December 2021 14: 03
            In short, weapon processing is not an easy process and requires knowledge and experience.
            Captain obvious laughing And I thought, why were we locked up in the gun for three hours after the shooting, and we rubbed our AK-74 like a "dog bitch" until we lost consciousness. And then the foreman almost licked them at the check. But it turns out there it is ... recourse Thanks! Enlightened!
      2. +4
        4 December 2021 13: 11
        I can't imagine the use of fat
        Ie .... if you don’t imagine something, then this cannot be in principle? Self-centeredness, however, is at its best good
        1. -3
          4 December 2021 13: 41
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          ee .... if you don’t imagine something, then this cannot be in principle? Egocentrism


          no, of course, they just didn't use lard to lubricate weapons, they used fat, which is not the same thing and refined, i.e. in the final form, ANOTHER PRODUCT - this must be understood - it is as if swords are made not of steel, but of iron, which in the mind of the oishnikof is the same, "but that the age is iron, why not make swords of iron"?
          1. +4
            4 December 2021 13: 47
            no, of course, they just didn't use fat to lubricate weapons
            applied. Gun and cannon fat. And not something that was consumed in food.
            1. -1
              4 December 2021 13: 50
              I posted a page of instructions for using the Mosin rifle cleaning, it clearly says that
              "smearing with fat leads to swelling of the trunks"

              you basically don't read anything?
              1. +6
                4 December 2021 13: 53
                you basically don't read anything?
                I basically read. Or has the Mosin Rifle been used since the time of King Solomon, Peter the Great?
                Unlike those who "read only what is profitable," I read everything whenever possible.

                https://jurgen-m.livejournal.com/305007.html полная версия. К тому же я читал и не раз в разных книгах еще в школе (80-е годы)
                1. -4
                  4 December 2021 14: 02
                  Quote: Region-25.rus
                  I basically read.


                  cool, I found an article for you, and you found the same article, but on another site, this is called your own opinion and independence, welcome.

                  This article has incorrectly combined the concepts of fat and fat, and these are two different things. The fat after overcooking it secretes fat and the structure of fat remains in the form of greaves. Then this fat must be heated and the sediment drained several times, in this form this fat is used to lubricate weapons.
                  But this is NOT FAT!
                  1. +4
                    4 December 2021 14: 17
                    this is called your own opinion and independence, welcome.
                    this is called to isolate not what you "want" but what happened. Against the background of the general.
                    Sorry ... I can't cite what I read more than 30 years ago wink
                    and .....
                    Lard after overcooking it produces fat
                    it's called ghee wink And whatever you call it ..... one hell of bacon wink Or did someone say that they grease with lard from a soldier's bundle? He took out such a soldier shmat and thinks - "to shrink or clean the barrel?" wassat Re-read your comments about -
                    I cannot imagine the use of lard as a lubricant for weapons and shoes, for the axles of carts.
                    Sitting such a Cossack, takes a piece of bacon and begins to rub his saber and clean the trunk with pieces of bacon?
                    and now answer - did anyone, or me personally, wrote that it was just that and this was used for lubrication? Oh, this youthful maximalism for me ...
                    1. -6
                      4 December 2021 14: 30
                      Quote: Region-25.rus
                      it's called ghee and whatever you call it ..... one hell of bacon


                      This technique, to interfere with everything in one heap, is the behavior of the police officers in their "works".
                      I have already told you twice that lard and fat are different things, why should you insist against the obvious?
                      For example, there is oil and there are oil products, but these are DIFFERENT THINGS, do you understand that? Mineral oil and just oil have different properties, but they are different in appearance and properties, and to say that this is "one and the same" is illiterate and be likened to headless ophisticians.
                      Processing wood into tar and turpentine is the same thing. Wood is one thing, tar and turpentine is another.
                      Fuu. It's hard in a village without a revolver.
                      1. +3
                        4 December 2021 14: 31
                        It’s hard in a village without a gun.
                        and be up to Buratino's waist
                    2. +2
                      4 December 2021 16: 32
                      "He took out such a soldier shmat and thinks -" should I shrink or clean the barrel? "

                      Nobody would eat natural pusalo. The fact is that it was drowned from dead animals - transport horses, dead farm animals, waste from slaughterhouses, including whaling, in "Moby Dick" this is described a little. Soap and grease and light fat and paints, cosmetics, medicines and many other things were made from fats. Then, even in the era of coal, the first chemical lubricants, paints and luminous fluids appeared. And already in the oil era, the names passed to their artificial and synthetic substitutes. In the same way, now a folder - a folder on a computer - is called a file - a file and a directory - a directory and engine oil - oil.
                      The ancient Romans, by the way, made cosmetics on fats, which were used by legionnaires in Britain - there, in the swamps of the Britons, it was so damp that the legionnaires were smeared with creams so as not to completely ruin the skin with water from the swamps and one such tin box was lost in the parade ground, apparently - and archaeologists have found.
                      From the moments of history, they forgot about the extensive contribution of buccaneers - pig hunters and merchant ships, smugglers. Pirates also respected this product and bought it from buccaneers or prepared it themselves, without relying on merchants or booty at sea.
                      1. +1
                        4 December 2021 16: 38
                        Yes, I know! Thank you)) There was no question of greasing weapons with food)) Just about cannon fat ... When - "the commander ordered, despite the shooting, to pierce the guns with bacon"(I don’t remember where. Of course, not lard from the provision pantry, but a special composition hi
                      2. +3
                        4 December 2021 17: 08
                        Banili, apparently with a fatty acid mixture - to remove carbon deposits quickly. In the presence of alkali, the fat is saponified and gives soap, which removes some of the impurities with water, and the oxide film from the metal is removed with acid in this fat-soap mixture.
                      3. +1
                        4 December 2021 17: 25
                        Quote: Region-25.rus
                        Just about cannon fat ...

                        The devil is terribly harmful ... it sticks like .... I don't even know what to compare with ... it looks like only diesel fuel and is afraid (of the available one).
                  2. +3
                    4 December 2021 14: 29
                    and you found the same article, but on a different site
                    and you found in the "same article" only that which is personally beneficial to you in the context of the discussion wink "We play here, we don't play here. But here I wrap the fish"? laughing
                    1. -6
                      4 December 2021 14: 34
                      does not understand anything, the conversation with you is over.
                      1. +4
                        4 December 2021 14: 49
                        does not understand anything, the conversation with you is over.
                        yes, where do we really need something .. homespun-bast shoes to the "lights of thought"))))
                      2. +2
                        4 December 2021 17: 41
                        In the days of Onyn, when the word anticorrosive was rarely known, Dad tapped cannon fat and under the pressure of his Zhigklenka in all the right places and hammered it ... For almost 15 years the car drove and there was no rust ... The bastards were hijacked ...
                  3. +2
                    4 December 2021 15: 45
                    Quote: Bar1
                    Lard after overcooking it produces fat

                    Lard. Damn, Bar, can you write anything without the boil-down?
                    1. -3
                      4 December 2021 16: 51
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Lard. Damn, Bar, can you write anything without the boil-down?

                      I am not referring to Wikipedia in this comment. Do you prefer to speak indiscriminately?
                      1. +2
                        4 December 2021 19: 10
                        Quote: Bar1
                        Do you prefer to speak indiscriminately?

                        Not, in my own words, that I remembered my childhood. Lard, it is also lard in Africa.
                      2. -1
                        4 December 2021 19: 48
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Not, in my own words, that I remembered my childhood. Lard, it is also lard in Africa.


                        lard, something is not Russian.
                      3. +2
                        4 December 2021 19: 50
                        Is "fat" Russian?
                      4. -1
                        4 December 2021 19: 51
                        Fat Russians speak, lard hardly speaks.
                      5. 0
                        4 December 2021 19: 57
                        The country is big.
                      6. 0
                        5 December 2021 12: 26
                        In the Kursk and Oryol regions, "lard" is very often spoken.
                      7. -1
                        5 December 2021 13: 55
                        I lived in Oryol, everywhere there is only bacon.
                      8. 0
                        5 December 2021 14: 14
                        And I. Both in the city and in the countryside) I often visited the Kursk region. Both lard and lard as its variety
      3. +3
        4 December 2021 15: 34
        It seems Suvorov said that the soldier would starve, but save a small piece of bacon to lubricate the gun.
      4. +2
        4 December 2021 17: 22
        Don't confuse vegetable and animal fats.
        For example, steam engines were lubricated with whale fat. By the way, animal fats are superior to mineral fats in their lubricating properties.
        1. 0
          4 December 2021 19: 13
          Quote: kytx
          For example, steam engines were lubricated with whale fat.

          And the clockwork, if some are not lying.
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      1. +1
        4 December 2021 21: 34
        Quote: RoTTor
        At today's prices in Ukraine, lard is a luxury item that is almost inaccessible to most of the hulks.

        Yes. For five years I could not sell the hryvnia one to one, gave them away, and now it turns out that they are almost three times more expensive than the ruble.
        1. 0
          5 December 2021 12: 29
          In 2004-2006, they gave five to six rubles for the hryvnia. Only some eccentric could buy one-to-one from you.
          1. 0
            5 December 2021 13: 17
            What does weird mean? For one hryvnia, I wanted to get at least a ruble. They walked in pairs with something, but in my city I could not exchange them in any bank, and it was lazy to look for the big ones.
            1. 0
              5 December 2021 13: 20
              That is, you wanted to make an exchange knowingly at a loss for yourself.
              1. +1
                5 December 2021 13: 22
                So.
    6. 0
      6 December 2021 01: 36
      If the author wrote this on a Ukrainian resource, then on the same day he ended up in the Myrotvorets database.
      That's right! Yes
  2. +15
    4 December 2021 05: 52
    this business is tasty - well-cooked bacon.
    - Are you going to eat bacon?
    - No. Firstly, I am on a diet, and secondly ... I will !!!
  3. +6
    4 December 2021 06: 23
    The last picture is mesmerizing.
    I'll have to figure this out on the table for the evening.
    1. +4
      4 December 2021 07: 15
      Fully agree!
      1. +21
        4 December 2021 07: 27
        Just remember - lard is a very heavy product! Once on the lake I ate vodka with bacon, and then I almost drowned!
        1. +13
          4 December 2021 07: 40
          Heavy, yet heavy, especially in combination with French brandy "SAMZHENU" at about 60 degrees with onions and garlic (black rye bread is included). And to add another "triple" ear, you just won't get up! My condolences...
          1. +2
            4 December 2021 15: 36
            Healthy, then what ?! But lard with alcohol is still better not to eat. Or not drink?
            Strong blow to the pancreas. Very strong. And it is better not to experience it.
            1. +1
              4 December 2021 17: 43
              Before using the excellent product described by you, I recommend to wave a couple of three creon peas, it helps the pancreas
              1. 0
                4 December 2021 17: 57
                Healthy people can't get it. And then it's late sad
                1. +1
                  4 December 2021 18: 07
                  Well, then yes ... Now an extra glass ooh haunted, not like in his youth)))
            2. 0
              5 December 2021 12: 32
              Some illiterate people think that a heavy fatty snack will weaken the negative effects of alcohol. But in fact, this is a double blow to the pancreas, and indeed to the liver. Collective farm chairmen often faced this problem in Soviet times.)
    2. +10
      4 December 2021 08: 56
      Quote: Carat
      The last picture is mesmerizing.
      I'll have to figure this out on the table for the evening.

      Well, here ... there are UNIVERSAL VALUES that unite us ...
    3. +11
      4 December 2021 10: 26
      Good Saturday morning.
      Nice article, I haven't had breakfast yet.
      Just don't overdo it with bacon, 20-30 grams, with freshly baked bread, mmmmmm, deliciousness.
      The author will fly in from Ukraine now, you have inflicted such an offense on them.
      As it is, they invented it, and here the Romans are mentioned.
      1. +5
        4 December 2021 13: 19
        As it is, they invented it, and here some kind of Romans are mentioned

        Well Duc and we have an answer to this - Rome was founded by the Etruscans! And according to Fomenko-Nosov "Etruscans" is translated as "these are Russians" laughing laughing laughing so sho they took over the fat from us! wassat laughing (wild sarcasm if that)
        1. +4
          4 December 2021 16: 20
          As for the Etruscans: I agree 100%!
    4. +2
      4 December 2021 11: 59
      And already now my nose is combing drinks !
  4. +16
    4 December 2021 06: 24
    Pokhlebkin wrote a lot about lard and food.
    I got a little confused with dates, more precisely, with the dating of events.
    It can be said that Ukraine became a lard producer during the reign of Peter the Great. It was when the Black Sea Fleet began to be built, when the Azov Wars and the War for Crimea began

    Yes, under Peter the Great, Russia fought with the Ottoman Port, already twice, but the Black Sea Fleet did not build. As a result of the two Azov campaigns, it was possible to gain a foothold in Azov and begin the construction of Taganrog. After the Prut campaign, the achievements in the Sea of ​​Azov had to be abandoned.
    The second thing that struck in the article was the identification of Rome and Italians
    ... Thousands of three years ago.

    Apparently the translation is not correct. The "mythological" date (according to Plutarch) of the emergence of Rome is considered to be 753 BC. The lands of Marino di Carrara remained with the Italians (and these are far from the Italians), whom Rome was able to subdue only a quarter of a century before the start of the First Punic War. Prior to this, "Columnar" marble was supplied throughout the Mediterranean. The identity of the field with the "column" is not surprising. However, two and a half thousand years is also significant.
    Well, the last thing, I think the Huns of Attila, also did not know about the cracklings. According to the Hungarians themselves, this is an acquired recipe already at the place of the new homeland in Panionia, and this is the 10th century, against the 4th (Attila's lifetime). They are not pigs, sheep and camels, and are not suitable for nomadic farming.
    As for the rest, it is interesting, curious and made me climb the cellar for a smoked piece of the product praised by the Author.
    P.S. From cadet experience:
    a piece of lard does not frighten off Muslim classmates, but only attracts attention. In principle, the Bashkirs cannot be told that there is fat in the refrigerator, they will have to argue who will go for vodka. Well, the bacon was always swept out first, raw smoked sausage could only argue with it, they didn't bring it to the refrigerator!
    Good weekend everyone and bon appetit !!!
    1. +5
      4 December 2021 09: 49
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      but the Black Sea Fleet did not build

      And on what ship did the embassy arrive in Constantinople?
      1. +7
        4 December 2021 10: 10
        "Goto Predestination" was built at the Voronezh Admiralty Shipyard.
        1. +6
          4 December 2021 12: 47
          Hi Aleksey!))

          On September 7 (17), 1699, the "Fortress" arrived in Istanbul with E. I. Ukraintsev on board, breaking away from the Turkish ships accompanying him on the way [1].


          The ship "Fortress" on the engraving of Adrian Shkhonebek
          Service
          Russian kingdom
          Class and type of vessel ship of the 3rd rank
          Type of sailing equipment Three-masted ship
          Homeport Taganrog, Azov
          Organization Azov Fleet
          Manufacturer Panshinskaya shipyard
          Launched 1699 year
          Withdrawn from the fleet in 1709 pulled ashore and saved
          Main characteristics
          Waterline length 37,8 m
          Midship width 7,3 m
          Precipitation 4 m
          Propulsion Sail
          Crew 110 people
          weaponry
          The total number of guns is 46/52.

          The "Fortress" was commanded by the Portuguese Peter von Pamburgh, who had sworn allegiance to Peter, a former pirate, whose head the British estimated at a solid sum.
          "Fortress" arrived in Istanbul suddenly and declared itself with a cannon salute, causing considerable commotion.

          And then there was the following:
          By the way, I reported to Peter about this conference of Ukrainians: ... and the English ambassador vomited blasphemy against your high personage, I then barked at the English ambassador obscenely.

          Source: https://quotesbook.info/quotes/comment/108814
          1. +4
            4 December 2021 15: 30
            Oh yeah ... right
      2. +3
        4 December 2021 12: 11
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        but the Black Sea Fleet did not build

        And on what ship did the embassy arrive in Constantinople?

        If my memory serves me, the ship bore the name Fortress. It was a 44-gun two-child ship, with full sailing armament and three masts. It was built in Voronezh. He belonged to the Azov flotilla.
    2. +3
      4 December 2021 11: 31
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      In principle, the Bashkirs cannot be told that there is fat in the refrigerator, they will have to argue who will go for vodka.


      our Kyrgyz spoke
      -Which Kyrgyz doesn't like bacon?
      1. +3
        4 December 2021 12: 28
        Kyrgyz does not like fat?
        Meaning fat tail (lamb) fat. Although I once pressed bacon with vodka with the rabbi's son Yes .
        1. +2
          4 December 2021 12: 37
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          Meaning fat tail (lamb) fat.


          do not, now, mutton fat has never been called lard.
        2. +3
          4 December 2021 12: 41
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          Kyrgyz does not like fat?
          Meaning fat tail (lamb) fat. Although I once pressed bacon with vodka with the rabbi's son Yes .

          Yeah, like in a joke.
          “Moishe, you can't eat bacon with vodka. Mohamed, who spoke such stupid words, you, as it were, are not allowed vodka and bacon. We are Moishe under the roof Alah will not see our sin. You see Magamed, if your Alah does not see your two terrible sins, why do you think that he will oppose mine alone? "
          1. +6
            4 December 2021 17: 33
            Moishe, you can't eat bacon with vodka
            In England they sell lard "Ukrainian" of the trade mark "Listerman", made in Germany! I buy it in the Russian store "Berezka" from an Armenian lol ! Seriously! Not a drop of joke or exaggeration No. !
    3. +6
      4 December 2021 13: 21
      "A piece of lard does not frighten off Muslim classmates, but only attracts attention."
      In the hostel, lard was called exclusively "student sausage" and was consumed by absolutely everyone, without distinction by sex, religion and "party affiliation"!
    4. +2
      4 December 2021 13: 31
      a piece of lard does not frighten off Muslim classmates
      also had illustrative examples, and also in cadets (though conscript service. The title of sailor was awarded when graduating from training. And it lasted almost half a year). So, then Uzbeks, Tajiks and many more from Central Asia were still serving. At first they tried to pose as faithful laughing But when they got hungry, then when dividing the parcel in the classroom, when they got the bacon, they were the first to volunteer to run to the galley for bread)))
      1. +3
        4 December 2021 17: 45
        Surely remember the "polar bear meat" from the cauldron))))
  5. +5
    4 December 2021 07: 09
    "Historical and satirical research" is a very rewarding genre. You can not explore anything, but simply recklessly revenge a bank-style blizzard at the table, the tongue would be hung up. There is an excuse for everything: it turned out not funny - so it's "historical", but messed up with the texture - it's "satirical", what did you want?
    Generally normal.
    1. -12
      4 December 2021 11: 32
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      Generally normal.


      the article looks like a throw-in, moreover, like a mothballs of pre-Internet times.
      1. +1
        4 December 2021 12: 39
        the article looks like stuffing
        The opinion of a professional is worth considering wassat
      2. 0
        6 December 2021 06: 46
        Quote: Bar1
        Quote: Trilobite Master
        Generally normal.


        the article looks like a throw-in, moreover, like a mothballs of pre-Internet times.

        Why did you drag India and China? Here is about Denmark and Hungary, the population of which is less than the Ukrainian
    2. +3
      4 December 2021 12: 59
      ... it is "satirical", what did you want?

  6. +11
    4 December 2021 07: 26
    In Germany, of course, there is everything, but the best gift for many of our former ones is a good piece of bacon from their native places.
  7. +14
    4 December 2021 07: 32
    Delicious article! However, the old saying is also true
    "Do not praise like lard, but you cannot eat without bread."
  8. +10
    4 December 2021 07: 35
    Thanks to the author. I read it with interest.
    and about the Belarusian salo, I agree. Fine and delicious lard. Ukrainian will be far away ..
    1. +4
      4 December 2021 11: 56
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Thanks to the author. I read it with interest.
      and about the Belarusian salo, I agree. Fine and delicious lard. Ukrainian will be far away ..

      In the 90s, he was engaged in meat, that is, they bought pigs in the villages and cut them to the market, so that at least somehow to make a profit, the Belarusians had to sell the lard to wholesalers, and balyk and hams to Moscow. So it is somehow controversial that lard in Belarus is better
      1. -3
        4 December 2021 16: 55
        I willingly believe you and am not going to prove the opposite. But as far as I heard, by the edge of an ear, the Belarusians have cheaper feed. Therefore, lard is better. The nephew brings lard from the Republic of Belarus every year. I ate it myself. I guarantee that it is delicious and melts in your mouth. In Ukraine, they like to feed pigs with Polish chemistry. As you do not want to eat this muck.
  9. +8
    4 December 2021 07: 47
    It can be said that Ukraine became a lard producer during the reign of Peter the Great. It was when the Black Sea Fleet began to be built, when the Azov Wars began
    On April 27 (May 8), 1700, at the Voronezh shipyard of the Voronezh Admiralty, the 58-gun sailing battleship "Goto Predestination", built according to the project of the Russian Tsar Peter I, was solemnly launched. with the help of which the fortress of Azov was conquered. Voronezh, Little Russia?
    1. +6
      4 December 2021 12: 56
      A wonderful ship. good

      1. +1
        4 December 2021 18: 02
        Modern renovation in color.
  10. +12
    4 December 2021 09: 27
    Lard is a thing! For example, on a winter fishing trip if you eat a pound of sausage, then in fact you will not feel a surge of energy, nor will you satisfy your hunger, and you will not get warm from this. So. fill your stomach and that's it. But it is enough to eat 200 grams of real good lard, and you are already satiated and warmer and more energetic until the evening. And longevity, probably, contributes to fat. My parents ate bacon all their lives and lived to be 93 years old. And they didn’t look for any extra cholesterol in their blood, so they didn’t have any extra cholesterol ...
  11. +10
    4 December 2021 09: 29
    Excellent article and everything to the point. Thanks.
  12. +13
    4 December 2021 09: 34
    The author never drove pigs even for a kilometer ... Otherwise, after a hundred meters, a wild desire would have dawned on him to take an ax and chop the wards into small pieces ...
    Pigs never - unlike cows, horses and sheep - do not go in a heap (flock, herd, herd). In Russian there is not even a word denoting a peaceful heap of pigs going anywhere. Dogs and a whip will create a panic from which the pigs will run in different directions - they are not herd animals. In addition, they are weak on their legs and just lie down at the slightest fatigue.
    All the rest - horses, sheep, cows - will walk as much as a person.
    And this was one of the reasons for the spread of lard in Ukraine.
    Also, the Author is in vain so easily rejects the influence of Islam.
    Food that will obviously not be used by the Crimean Khanate for religious reasons and problems with delivery is a good product for those realities. Transportation is impossible, and it is nonsense to carry tons of salt for pickling on the spot.
    They could have poked the pigs with a spear at the most ... but there is also a nuance - in many regions of Ukraine they like lard with a tinge. These are just the consequences - the enemies killed the pigs, those who survived were butchered and salted in a day
  13. +10
    4 December 2021 09: 49
    Eh, drooling. I'll run to the market for bacon !!!
  14. +12
    4 December 2021 10: 14
    Delicious product.! As a child, parents always kept pigs and salted them for the winter every year, in wooden boxes. The recipe is simple, salt and garlic. Yes, I still cannot live without this product. There is always something in the fridge. In the evening you come home from work and you will definitely cut a little for dinner.
    ,, little left, you need to replenish winked
    bully
  15. +14
    4 December 2021 10: 32
    The author is a sadist! You can't do this with hungry people)))
    1. +10
      4 December 2021 11: 20
      I fully support it! The article is great, but I'm on a half-day shift! It’s not known how long before dinner! And there will be no bacon! AAAAA !!!
  16. +10
    4 December 2021 11: 20
    The ancient Romans were the inventors of lard. This is an indisputable fact

    This is not a fact, this is a legend. Moreover, it does not refer to lard in general, but to the specific regional product Lardo di Colonnade.

    By the way, in the very village of Colonnata there is a legend that Michelangelo brought bacon to them when he came to choose marble for his sculptures.
    The pig was domesticated in the XNUMXth millennium BC in Southwest Asia, and in Europe, domestic pigs appeared in the XNUMXth millennium BC. Table salt was produced on an industrial scale in Europe as early as the XNUMXth millennium BC. Therefore, the question about the inventors of lard looks something like this - Homo sapiens of the late Neolithic or early Bronze Age.
  17. +13
    4 December 2021 11: 24
    ,,, and remember at Sholokhov?
    I pressed the bread to me with all my might, fat I still hold in my left hand
    was confused by such an unexpected turn that he did not say thank you, did
    to the left in a circle, I go to the exit, and I myself think: "He will flash me now between
    shoulder blades, and I won't bring these grubs to the guys. "No, nothing happened. And this time
    death passed me by, only a chill pulled from it ...
    I left the commandant's room on firm legs, and in the yard I got sick.
    He tumbled into the barrack and fell to the cement floor, unconscious. Ours woke me up
    still in the dark: "Tell me!" Well, I remembered what was in the curfew,
    told them. "How are we going to divide the grub?" - asks my neighbor on the bunk, and at
    the voice itself trembles. “All equally,” I tell him. We waited for dawn.
    Bread and bacon were cut with a harsh thread. Each got a piece of bread with
    matchbox, every crumb was registered, well, and lard, you understand, -
    just anoint your lips. However, they shared it without offense.

  18. +9
    4 December 2021 11: 28
    The day was gone ... I went to be completed for the evening according to the list ... Dear Author Do you at least warn me ...
  19. +7
    4 December 2021 11: 47
    And I liked the spig from the IRP. With biscuits went very much. Although Solid disapproves. smile
  20. wow
    +4
    4 December 2021 11: 55
    There is not much lard on the ukaine these days. They are imported from "Mrs. Zosia" from Russia, from Belarus. The villages are empty not only of pigs, but also of shelter and poultry. Confused ....
  21. +5
    4 December 2021 12: 09
    The author forgot to mention the German Schmalzbrot. In our company he was very respected at the exits. Delicious, nutritious, you can eat on the go. Stored in a plastic flask, squeezed out as needed.
  22. +4
    4 December 2021 12: 49
    In England, white bacon (without streaks of meat) is pressed and briquettes are sent to the Philippines by refrigerated containers.
    1. +6
      4 December 2021 13: 45
      go to the Philippines.

      so that's where palm oil comes from!)))
      1. +2
        4 December 2021 13: 49
        By the way, frozen blood of pigs in briquettes is sent there.
        1. 0
          4 December 2021 17: 49
          What for? Better to make a blood drop to yourself)))
  23. +5
    4 December 2021 13: 15
    Bravo Roman!
    I’ll go get some lard from the fridge and I’ll probably get it with black bread!
  24. +5
    4 December 2021 13: 40
    Well written, read it with pleasure, but we need to work on the mistakes in Russian.
  25. +7
    4 December 2021 14: 59
    Himself from Kiev, tasted the most delicious bacon in Zhitomir and in the Krasnoyaskiy region. My opinion, the taste depends on what was fed and how it was processed during cutting (although there are no comrades for the taste and color), but about the fat of Ukraine it is a myth
  26. BAI
    +7
    4 December 2021 15: 41
    In general, to the theme of fat in Ukraine, the Okoloradsky cockroach raised.
    Ps. On a rare strange keyboard on the Lenovo tablet - half of the Russian letters no.
  27. +9
    4 December 2021 16: 22
    1971 May, we Tashkent were brought to Bolgrad, Odessa region, 299 traffic police. for parachute jumps, they gave out dry rations, canned pigs. Uzbeks did not eat canned food, we gave away a packet of black bread rusks. two weeks later the Uzbeks were eating pig-canned food, for a sweet soul! we, laughing, said - and if Abdullah tells at home that you ate mumps, what will you do? answered - we will say that Abdullah also ate mumps !!! these are the Muslims! although they did not know the real Koran, which allowed a Muslim to eat everything that would not starve to death! I am a Tatar, and I eat bacon, with great pleasure, since childhood!
  28. -1
    4 December 2021 16: 51
    Well, this is an invention of the author, nothing more. Learn history - dreamer. The article is nonsense. I was in 2002 near Alchevsk, and so all Ukrainians ate our lard from Voronezh, and not their Alchevsk soap.
  29. +3
    4 December 2021 17: 06
    It's funny, but the fashion for pigs in the Ukrainian lands was brought ... by the Russians!

    Well that's it! Skomorokhov hit. At best, he will be banned from entering the country. And at worst, the cunning Ukrainian prosecutor's office, as if from Crimea, will open a criminal case against him because of the denial of the fundamental values ​​of banderlogy. wassat
    1. +1
      4 December 2021 17: 51
      Skomorokhov Roman, the author of the article, is already on the site of "Peacemaker" for helping the DPR and LPR, so there is nothing to be afraid of
  30. +1
    4 December 2021 17: 37
    In the first class I wondered why in "Uzbek-film" everyone asks each other "Is the sala small?"
    Now I understand: everyone really wants to, but imperceptibly, a small piece to swallow quickly until someone notices.
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  32. +4
    4 December 2021 21: 17
    So the ancient Ukrainians did not invent fat at all ???
    Slander of the aggressors !!!

    The author is wrong: the spread of pigs and, accordingly, lard in the territory now considered Ukraine, is still associated with the constant raids of the Crimean Tatars and Turks, who stole everything EXCEPT PIGS, which Allah did not order to devour
    The rest is secondary!
    The taste of lard depends on what the pigs are fed with.
    Pig grazing, as well as the profession of a swineherd, have disappeared.
    Sorry for the pigs ...
    In the Kuban, the taste of lard from pigs fed with apples is interesting, in ... Israel tried lard from kosher \ separate topics \ pigs fed with oranges, in Abkhazia - tangerines - not very much, as for me.

    But the real Russian is potato-fed, YES!

    At today's prices in Ukraine, lard is a luxury item that is almost inaccessible to most of the hulks.
    In addition, all pigs in Ukraine have migrated to power, so bacon, by the way, is shoddy, is imported from Poland.
    Who brings in? - patriots from Western Ukraine, who buy everything - food and clothes for themselves in Poland and for the occupied Ukraine for them on… .t.
    Lard deficiency will lead to the Islamization of Ukraine.

    The so-called "Ukrainian lands" = SOUTH-WESTERN outskirts \ Ukraine of Rus,
    Western Ukraine - CHERVONA RUS \ red \ defiled by the Catholic occupiers
  33. +2
    5 December 2021 03: 14
    There was still a lot of time before the discovery and development of the Artyomovsky (1876) and Slavyansky (1878) deposits, so salt was mainly used for this business from the sea, from the southern regions adjacent to the Black Sea.

    The gross mistake. Salt brews in Bakhmut and Slavyansk have been used for a very long time. In the 17th century, the conflicts of the Don and Sloboda Cossacks for the right to develop them are recorded. In the 18th century, Catherine II transferred the right of duty-free salt extraction to the suburban military settlers (former Cossacks) as a tax benefit.
  34. +2
    5 December 2021 06: 06
    From space to fat, one step!
  35. +1
    5 December 2021 08: 46
    Thanks for a very interesting article. It hurts to look at pictures on an empty stomach
  36. +2
    5 December 2021 12: 00
    It is interesting how the marble was given an age of 3000 years. Why not 30 million years? Or marble appeared on the 4th day after the creation of the world?
    1. +1
      5 December 2021 15: 57
      Read the date of manufacture "- 1000 years before the birth of Christ" wassat
  37. -1
    5 December 2021 12: 52
    I do not take the war, everything is clear here. But why, in the post-war period, could not a multinational and multi-confessional superpower organize food for soldiers in accordance with their religious beliefs? Poverty or principle?
  38. +3
    5 December 2021 14: 24
    I love lard with a layer. But there is a very tasty option - spinal lard without any layer, but very tasty! And also fried underscores!
  39. 0
    5 December 2021 20: 37
    However, salted bacon is included in the Russian IRP. There is him - this is still a feat,
    ===
    nonsense. on a fishing trip, or the very thing from the cold. for an amateur, in general.
  40. +2
    5 December 2021 21: 11
    "The ancient Romans were the inventors of lard." (C) However. They encroached on sacred things! Yak, fat, and suddenly the Romans? Zrada! lol
  41. 0
    5 December 2021 21: 18
    Lard as a war product and an object of myths

    I read it, active salivation began, the stomach began to question, in short, I took out the shmat from the freezer, tucked it, cleaned the garlic, poured it and-and-and ... Everything, as the author described it! good
  42. 0
    5 December 2021 22: 32
    Quote: Soveticos
    Thanks for a very interesting article. It hurts to look at pictures on an empty stomach

    I looked, and ... I got the lard out of the freezer! hi A colleague sent me from Voronezh.
  43. 0
    5 December 2021 22: 37

    In general, in combat conditions any piglet will become a rabbit.
    Or vice versa. sad
  44. -1
    5 December 2021 22: 43
    Not an article, but bullshit ... It's not worth reading ...
  45. 0
    6 December 2021 09: 44
    Lard is best given by pigs of categories 2 and 3 ... they stop breeding them. All industrial bacon breeds with a growing period of 9 months (classic) are now reduced to 5 months. This has a bad effect on lard (the situation is the same everywhere). And guns in the USSR were smeared with melted bacon even after the Second World War (so that the soldiers did not eat it, they added Tar).
  46. -1
    6 December 2021 15: 52
    It’s not a product, it’s a military field drug.
  47. 0
    6 December 2021 21: 49
    Wow, I read the article, and now by all means go to the refrigerator, the other day I bought a x-o-r-rosy piece of bacon in the Belarusian market, with streaks, although it’s late, but still a slice of bacon on a black bread must be skipped and 50 grams of white lard, seduced.
  48. 0
    8 December 2021 20: 03
    Today is the Day of bacon! Happy Holidays.
  49. 0
    12 December 2021 16: 55
    Nice article, I'm waiting for the second part. I am hungry. A piece of bacon on toasted bread is a real treat
  50. 0
    27 January 2022 18: 42
    Very serious and interesting article.

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