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What was it, and who is responsible for it?

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In the south, exactly on the border of the Chechen Republic and Dagestan, a strange event was recorded. Many channels on the Internet say that this is a demonstration of force, and in two directions at once: in front of Dagestan and Ingushetia at the same time.



Photo: chechnyatoday.com

It is no secret that these republics have territorial disputes. It sounds frankly delusional, because these are not states, independent and legitimate, but federal entities within Russia. And what division of “ours” can be, if everything around is “ours”?

Apparently, the federal center is not going to do anything at all, and the situation will continue to escalate. And there is confirmation of this.

To begin with: everyone notes a very interesting detail and asks the question: what kind of armed formations are they? And under whose flag are they marching? Russian flags are not visible in the photographs, only the flags of the Chechen Republic. This suggests that the security forces of Chechnya seem to act independently, under the jurisdiction of the Chechen Republic.

In general, the actions of these people are very ambiguous. There is the Charter of the Internal Service, there is the Military Regulations, which regulate the movement of troops, including in columns. And the movement of a military column without identification marks of units, including, without the flag of Russia, is a direct violation of the points of these Statutes.

Here we see the absence of the Russian flag, as such. But there are flags of the Czech Republic, in a quantity that does not allow to interpret what is happening in a different way.

It was stated to be an exercise. Three days. Parts of the National Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Chechen Republic. In the area of ​​the border with neighboring republics.

The key word here is "teachings." And at the same time a contradiction. If these are exercises, then they should be included in the training plan for training personnel. Or, if they are unplanned, they must be coordinated with the federal center, that is, with Moscow.

Otherwise, they are not teachings. Any such movements / exercises of the Russian Guard or the Ministry of Internal Affairs troops without the appropriate permits is called a mutiny. And this is already the jurisdiction of Art. 279 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation with all the ensuing consequences. And it is urgent to disconnect the connection and start isolating the region.

However, nothing of the kind happened, which means that the authorization to conduct the "exercises" was issued. Either in Moscow or in Rostov-on-Don, where the Southern Regional Control Center is located.

The permit was issued, but the nature of the "exercises" evokes thoughts about ... excessive independence of the Chechen security officials. Blatant disregard for Russian symbols testifies to this directly.

Perhaps Moscow should remind Ramzan Akhmadovich that the Chechen Republic is a republic within the Russian Federation, and not an independent state that has the right to scare neighbors with a demonstration of forces at the borders.

But the fact that Kadyrov is demonstrating his independence and independence is only half the battle. The second half is even more interesting. Who in Moscow and Rostov-on-Don indulges the head of the Chechen Republic, legitimizing such events?

By themselves, the "exercises" of the security forces in the border areas is not that nonsense, but it looks strange. Both the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Rosgvardia are focused on a lot, but border protection and actions in border areas are under the authority of the FSB, which includes the Border Guard Service.

Chechnya has a border with a foreign state. With Georgia. 84 km in not the most pleasant and accessible area of ​​the Pankisi Gorge. And this piece is guarded by Russian border guards from the outpost in Itum-Kale. So there is no concern for the Chechen National Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Why then such strange "teachings"?

Many believe that inter-republican "graters" on territorial issues are to blame. They say that on the Internet (and not only there) there are very heated battles on this topic at various levels.

It got to the point that the speaker of the Chechen parliament, Magomed Daudov, appointed a "shooter" to the representatives of the Council of Teips of Ingushetia on the bank of the Fortang River in order to decide on the ownership of lands according to Sharia.

In general, of course, savagery. Conduct a showdown on territorial claims in accordance with Sharia law in a secular state, and even after all the points in the disputes have been settled by the Constitutional Court ...

Now, between Chechnya and Ingushetia, another series of showdowns has begun around the village of Dattykh in the Sunzhensky region. Of course, all these "meetings on the shore" in accordance with the Sharia court look wild from the point of view of a resident of the European part of Russia. There are more effective ways to resolve territorial disputes.

However, what do the Chechen and Ingush republics share? This is the main question.

The land of Russia, which is part of the two republics, is divided.

In general, how worthy is it? Okay, territorial disputes between India and Pakistan have become classics. The two countries will fight for Jammu and Kashmir to the end of the century, and nothing can be done about it.

Should we expect the same in the case of Chechnya and Ingushetia or Chechnya and Dagestan? Good example. Then, perhaps, the heads of the Voronezh region should remember that part of the land was chopped off in favor of the Lipetsk region being created? And why is Voronezh worse than Grozny? Return!

And so, with the filing of Ramzan Akhmetovich, the slide into the savagery of the Middle Ages will begin. In the long term - the division of the entire country into specific principalities, which will be very easy to strangle one at a time.

The dream of overseas "partners".

On the whole, things don't look very good for the “foot soldier Putin”. Intimidation of neighbors, incomprehensible exercises at the borders, all this showdown ...

Well, this is not the level of the head of the republic within the Federation. Not in terms of goals, not in terms of means.

In the recent past, watching Kadyrov's actions to free captured Russians and militias, I was overwhelmed with only positive emotions. The man played out the situation beautifully, did a very useful job and did it very gracefully. Indeed, it was worthy of both a politician and a statesman. I will not deny that after those events I began to sympathize with Ramzan Akhmetovich. And the end of the war in Chechnya is also a matter of which one can be proud for the rest of his life.

What has changed is not entirely clear. Why, instead of such beautiful things, there are some sort of showdowns on the Internet, scandals ... Now, small-town battles for a piece of land that belongs to the Federation ...

But the demonstration of the capabilities of the forces on the border with Dagestan, and in general, does not fit into any framework.

Moscow is obliged to point out to the republics the need to stop any swarms. Especially on the topic of territories. This is the land of the Russian Federation, and there is nothing to divide it. This will not give any preferences or respect to those who do not understand the difference between their own and the state.

We live in the 21st century and today we have a lot of problems in addition to settling small-scale conflicts in the southern republics.

But the leaders of these republics should be the first to think about this.
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  1. Smesharik83
    Smesharik83 24 November 2021 14: 24
    +56
    The sovereignization of subsystems began.
    The academician has long wanted to cheat his neighbors, and has already squeezed out the territory, realizing that his crowd of nukers will very soon need his grandfather more than the loyalty of the elites of Dagestan and Ingushetia.
    Well, nobody canceled the Caucasian show-off - there should be only one alpha male. And he must constantly remind who is the owner of the pack
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 24 November 2021 14: 42
      +11
      Quote: Smesharik83
      And he must constantly remind who is the owner of the pack

      The scale is small - in Russia!
      1. Cat Kuzya
        Cat Kuzya 24 November 2021 14: 56
        +122
        The funny thing is that there are still those who sincerely think that Chechens consider themselves citizens of the Russian Federation in the first place ...
        1. Civil
          Civil 24 November 2021 15: 36
          +53
          The system is decreasing. The weakest connections are loosened accordingly. Whether it will still be unfortunately.
          1. Carat
            Carat 24 November 2021 16: 55
            +96
            Will. If there was a war, Russia would receive an unexpected blow to the flank from the south.

            And there is no need to feed on illusions.

            Stalin evicted them to Kazakhstan for a reason.
            1. Kamarada
              Kamarada 24 November 2021 23: 10
              +21
              Half of these Vainakhs should be sent to Donbass, and the other, led by Kadyrov, to Siberia, to plant Christmas trees. It is very strange to see some kind of army on the territory of Russia under some strange flags.
              1. Carat
                Carat 24 November 2021 23: 12
                +1
                Quote: Kamarada
                to plant Christmas trees


                You probably wanted to say: cut the forest with a jigsaw?
                1. Kamarada
                  Kamarada 24 November 2021 23: 37
                  +9
                  After a year, you can cut it, but first plant it. Now the green agenda is fashionable. And they have a suitable flag. Let them work for the glory of the fatherland.
              2. fiberboard
                fiberboard 25 November 2021 06: 48
                +40
                Here in Siberia, why do we need them? Here and so there are enough different rabble, some haches with the crowd's aizers. As for the Kirghiz, in general, in Krasnoyarsk, in the markets, I get the impression that all of Kyrgyzstan is here. And no one suits them with language patrols, and probably it's time to respond.
                1. Kamarada
                  Kamarada 25 November 2021 10: 25
                  +8
                  It's time of course. We ourselves admit such a situation. They piss in our eyes and we are all God's dew.
              3. AUL
                AUL 25 November 2021 20: 04
                +22
                Perhaps Moscow should remind Ramzan Akhmadovich that the Chechen Republic is a republic within the Russian Federation, and not an independent state,

                I remember when in Kandopoga the Chechens were hit on snot, Kadyrov announced (publicly, according to the 1st program of the Durovizor) that he would now send a battalion of his abreks to Kondapoga and put things in order there. And our Supreme Commander-in-Chief did not even squeak in response - he wiped himself off, how cute! And now we
                It is very strange to see some kind of army on the territory of Russia under some strange flags.
                If the guarantor gets lost again, tomorrow, you see, the infantryman will move his army to Moscow. Why not?
                1. DED_peer_DED
                  DED_peer_DED 26 November 2021 00: 32
                  +9
                  Quote: AUL
                  And why not?

                  Dear fellow citizens.
                  Do you seriously think that those masters of life who rule in Moskvobad and those who sit in Chechnya are two different poles?
                  Mom, do not cry ...
                  Yes, these are the links of the same chain doing one job.
                  That those that others primarily want to prevent Russia from growing into a powerful Russian state, by all means available to them.
                  Both centers (and not only these two) carry out one work.
                  The only difference is that this is done under different pretexts and "patriotic" propaganda campaigns, respectively.
                  In each specific place, this is done in a form that is understandable and accessible to the target audience.
                  This is done under pseudo-patriotic slogans, but with one goal, to prevent Russian unity.
                  The authorities do not make any mistakes. They do everything right ...
                  Look around, look around. Can't you see it?
                  1. EvilLion
                    EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 10
                    -9
                    Take off your foil cap.
                    1. DED_peer_DED
                      DED_peer_DED Today, 09: 42
                      0
                      Quote: EvilLion
                      Take off your foil cap.


                      Receive, sign.
              4. Grandfather Mozai
                Grandfather Mozai 30 November 2021 15: 49
                0
                "led by Kadyrov to Siberia, to plant Christmas trees." Save Svarog! We don’t need Kadyrovs with bandos in Siberia, Christmas trees are growing quite well. To Donbass, so to Donbass!))
            2. ChechenBullet
              ChechenBullet 25 November 2021 04: 22
              .
              Stalin evicted them to Kazakhstan for a reason. [B] [/ b] Yes, and not just a good part of the Russian intelligentsia in the camps rotted away. So it turns out, judging by your logic? You are a born humanist and apparently very "seriously" studied the period of Stalin's rule (I deliberately write this name with a small letter). In our time, one does not have to feed on illusions. Everything is very clear. Chechnya was regained by the Russian Federation at too high a price, whoever was on the front line will understand what I mean! But what can we say, the Caucasus was almost lost. And it was Ramzan Kadyrov who made a huge contribution to the victory over terrorism.
              1. Cottodraton
                Cottodraton 25 November 2021 08: 01
                +26
                Nobody did not spread rot on any intelligentsia. There, more than half are pulled by the ears, to create a "bloody tyrant"
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 25 November 2021 11: 06
                +23
                Quote: ChechenBullet
                a good part of the Russian intelligentsia in the camps rotted away

                It is a pity that I did not catch up with all the Solzhenitsyn.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 26 November 2021 16: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  It is a pity that I did not catch up with all the Solzhenitsyn.

                  But you can't erase words from a song. Stalin actually cut back the part of the population that was used to thinking with their own heads and asking questions that were inconvenient for the authorities, since the Sharikovs were banally easier to control.
              3. storm
                storm 25 November 2021 23: 27
                +13
                The Caucasus was almost lost.

                But Ukraine has been lost so far with this Chechnya as with
                [/ quote] fiddling with a suitcase without a handle .... [quote]

                The entire Caucasus is not worth a tenth of Ukraine ...
                1. Knizhnik
                  Knizhnik 26 November 2021 12: 28
                  +5
                  Ukraine was lost because of the leaders close to Gazprom, who argued that it was sitting on a pipeline kukan and would not go anywhere from it. And this is three dozen stupidly looking at the nationwide horse race named after comrade Bandera
              4. EvilLion
                EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 12
                +5
                The Kadyrovs simply crossed over in time. Well, your "knowledge" of Stalin's rule is only to write in Perestroika "Ogonyok".
            3. A. h. 52
              A. h. 52 30 November 2021 15: 39
              -1
              I think not a blow but a demonstrative ignore. Perhaps Ramkhzan's direct refusal to send his Kadyrovites to fight.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 24 November 2021 18: 52
          +34
          Quote: Kuzya the Cat
          The funny thing is that there are still those who sincerely think

          There are no such people here. There are those who are paid to project this opinion.
          And for the projection of any pro-government opinion regarding the retirement age, zeroing, rigging elections, subsidies to Chechnya, increasing gasoline prices, withdrawing income from the country, compulsory vaccination - everything that is done by the authorities, everything is justified by these people. There are two dozen of them on the site, maybe a little more. And everyone knows them.
          And here's what I want to say - when the 37th year 2.0 comes, these people will scream about the injustice of repression. For with modern technologies, physically calculate them as two fingers on the asphalt.
          1. VicktorVR
            VicktorVR 25 November 2021 01: 49
            +3
            These people will steer the repression. The first wave.
            And no one will be indignant. Everyone will sit in the corners with their tongues in the ass.
          2. EvilLion
            EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 13
            -3
            Yes, you are great patriots. You will only vyaknet someone that allegedly something was taken away from you, so you immediately believe it.
          3. Plate
            Plate 26 November 2021 16: 14
            +2
            There are those who are paid to project this opinion.

            Oh, how many stories I've heard about * such and such * opinion being paid for. For some reason, no one has ever offered me to project on the Internet, well, at least some kind of opinion for money.
            Hey employers, where are you? We can defend the United States' right to bases around the world! We can also explain the usefulness of raising the retirement age! Explain the deplorableness of raising the retirement age too. Why no suggestions? Ehh ... Where to go?
          4. ban
            ban 27 November 2021 12: 14
            0
            There are two dozen of them on the site, maybe a little more

            Much more unfortunately
          5. English tarantas
            English tarantas 27 November 2021 16: 29
            0
            There are none here

            Read the comments above, I have never seen so many Natsik, right-wing and other brown ones on VO. And in general, there are sooo many of them on the Internet. The most surprising of these has become too much on Vkontakte, which, oddly enough, under a total cap, but only those who are not careful with the wording are banned, those who skillfully ignite are ignored for months.
            There are those who are paid to project this opinion.

            Any unpleasant person is divided into two parts: salary and "in themselves such". There were always more of the latter. We recall the classic color revolutions and the Maidans, there he started a little, a couple of hundred: in the government, among sponsors, a couple from behind a hillock, Internet hackers and journalists and the actual battle ringleaders in the streets, the rest were on the Maidans, they were hysterical. schoolchildren, violent, narrow-minded, and normal, but brought to the point.
            And here's what I want to say - when the 37-year 2.0 comes

            I would like to not have to catch them. Americans do it conveniently, for example, as in Vietnam. All the necessary guys are either liquidated by the Americans themselves, or they flee from the ship, more precisely to helicopters and airplanes.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 27 November 2021 16: 42
              +3
              Quote: English tarantass
              The most amazing thing of these became a bit too much on Vkontakte, which, oddly enough, under a total cap

              With a brown plague, the authorities are trying to divert the electorate from the left ranks. request
              Quote: English tarantass
              There were always more of the second

              There are only a few of them now. Five years ago, I would have agreed with you, but not today. The bulk of the trolls have already become familiar, a flaw in the curators. laughing They drowned for all the foul decisions of the authorities, and by the way, some of them are now pulling into the right.
              Well, in the end, I agree with you. hi
          6. sleeve
            sleeve 4 December 2021 13: 14
            0
            somehow it is not particularly clever to denote a point of view that is opposed to you so provocatively. looks like some kind of painful chauvinism with "payments". Do you deny people alternative thinking? Is it true that only yours is "free"? This is a dead end in the discussion ... Even the authorities do not stoop to this. And if they go down, then it looks exactly the same as yours. Why are you doing that? Participate in discussions, argue your point of view. If you fail, try to improve the effectiveness of your position. Well, you can't smear with dirt so indiscriminately ...
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 4 December 2021 16: 50
              +1
              I have outlined theses that are perceived by the majority of the population as negative. But some personalities stand out from the general number, and absolutely always support these theses. In real life, I have not met such, in any area. There is only one conclusion - the guys are at work. And the job is pretty disgusting, from an ethical point of view. Betrayal of the interests of the people.
        3. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 25 November 2021 10: 44
          +10
          Quote: Cat Kuzya
          The funny thing is that there are still those who sincerely think that Chechens consider themselves citizens of the Russian Federation in the first place ...

          Unfortunately you are right. They are citizens of the Russian Federation only when they need to receive benefits. I would write what I think, but I'm afraid they might attract
      2. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 24 November 2021 19: 50
        +3
        ferret he is also not big but the smell
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 24 November 2021 15: 30
      +30
      Quote: Smesharik83
      The sovereignization of subsystems began.
      Academician for a long time

      It has its own army, which is subordinate only to him, and at the right moment it depends on the Academician what she will do.
      In case of instability of the vertical, no one and nothing prevents him from replacing the Russian power in the Caucasus with his own. It remains only to think which side the Academician will take. Judging by his palace in SA, the answer is obvious
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 24 November 2021 16: 18
        +8

        All in maroon berets. The latest technology.
        1. Kesha1980
          Kesha1980 24 November 2021 16: 52
          +47
          Y-yes. This is where all the upgrades are done. And the equipment is not bad. And "salam aleikum", when the commander addressed the built personnel on the parade ground, was it already prescribed in the Charter, or what? They put it insolently, without hesitation.
        2. aglet
          aglet 24 November 2021 17: 47
          +38
          "All in maroon berets"
          Yes, we bought it recently, for the occasion. but for good reason, it is necessary to whip this flock, take away all weapons, including penknives, and make them work, and not share Putin's tribute. Ramzanka generally lost the coast, made his own army, and nothing. the dwarf is sitting in the bunker, he is not up to it, and without him no one can react. will wait until the new Budenovsk, or wherever they will seize anything near Moscow, cluck, damn it, but it will be too late. Or does he need these gangsters to cover the plane taking off from Sheremetyevo with its carcass? It is also an option
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 24 November 2021 20: 00
            +19
            Make them work, ha ha, what you want ...
          2. Bredovich705
            Bredovich705 25 November 2021 17: 40
            +1
            These chocks did not do anything worthwhile, having born with their own hands, how to make it work ...
        3. p0pulivox
          p0pulivox 25 November 2021 10: 06
          +5
          The content of the video is indicative enough and does not require special comments ...
    3. Drot Gyt
      Drot Gyt 28 November 2021 14: 11
      0
      To remind my grandfather - to waste time. Indicates the position of the successor
  2. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 24 November 2021 14: 24
    +26
    What a news!
    I strongly doubt that it will come to a real confrontation, because any gatehouse has a forester. But it looks like Ramzan has played a bit. However, like our metropolitan mayor, who loves to arrange his own November parades on Krasnaya.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 24 November 2021 14: 38
      +44
      Only in this forest does the forester pay with the beast for the quiet life of his beloved
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 25 November 2021 06: 29
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        Only in this forest does the forester pay with the beast for the quiet life of his beloved

        In general, yes.
        But I suppose that you are too straightforward about this relationship.
        There is, for the most part, no oil taxes. But in essence, yes. It's easier to pay than to fight with these medieval blockheads.
        But again, it’s not a question to kill them on a difficult one, but here the planetary opinion comes into force.
        With that we live.
        1. Drot Gyt
          Drot Gyt 28 November 2021 14: 19
          0
          No, buddy. It is not for nothing that Ramzan declares himself to be Putin's guardsman. Support and guarantee against a palace coup. And then, you see, they will take out from the bunker on a construction stretcher
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 16
        +2
        Do you know that back in the 18th century Russia paid to different steppe dwellers, because it was cheaper than chasing them?
    2. Kamarada
      Kamarada 24 November 2021 16: 10
      +25
      Just didn't play a bit. And at the end achamel. For such games, anyone else would already be sitting on a bunk.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 25 November 2021 06: 33
        +5
        Quote: Kamarada
        Just didn't play a bit. And at the end achamel. For such games, anyone else would already be sitting on a bunk

        Are you going to seal it on a bunk? :)
        No offense. But let's talk in an adequate space and without fools.
        1. mojohed2012
          mojohed2012 25 November 2021 07: 39
          +2
          There was Akhmat, they blew it up.
          Ramzan is also a man, and he must also have many enemies. We are not eternal. Money and power do not bring immortality.
        2. Kamarada
          Kamarada 25 November 2021 10: 15
          +1
          And what about the law of the jungle in Russia? Who is stronger, closer and right.? Then the Russians must also arm themselves to the teeth and show everyone Kuzkin's mother.
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 25 November 2021 14: 49
            0
            Quote: Kamarada
            And what about the law of the jungle in Russia? Who is stronger, closer and right.?

            The law of the jungle, it is permanent. This is understandable to everyone who was not born yesterday.
            Yes, it is unpleasant and unsightly, but the other world in which we live has not yet been offered.
    3. aglet
      aglet 24 November 2021 17: 49
      +11
      "I strongly doubt that it will come to a real confrontation, because any gatehouse has a forester"
      our forester is all purple, he is in the house
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 25 November 2021 06: 25
        -1
        Quote: aglet
        our forester is all purple, he is in the house

        Here is ... For the time being, for the time being. It will not come to the situation with Gaddafi. If it bakes, then ...
        Well .. you get the idea.
    4. Glory1974
      Glory1974 25 November 2021 09: 08
      +27
      What a news!
      I strongly doubt that it will come to a real confrontation

      What to call a real confrontation.
      About 10 years ago, Kadyrov's sister went to the market in Makhachkala with security. There her guards with weapons were detained by the police: there are no documents for the weapons, why the armed ones are not clear, they were taken to the police department for clarification. She calls her brother, a column of a hundred cars is moving out of Grozny and rushes to "rescue" the boss's sister.
      The only hitch was in front of the checkpoint of the internal troops. The senior lieutenant, the unit commander, said "I don't give a damn who's going there, I have only one commander." and did not miss the column. They drove around, got to Makhachkala, broke into the regional department. They released their own people, beat the Dagestani policemen, several people were taken to intensive care.
      So such antics are not unique to them. They don't talk about this on TV. The reality is much worse than even this publication might suggest.
      1. Neutron Retarded
        Neutron Retarded 26 November 2021 01: 41
        +2
        Tales from the Vienna Woods .... To the market in Makhachkala from Grozny. Yes, they fly to Milan and not for sales, but for new collections .. God, save this country from USE graduates.
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 30 November 2021 10: 38
          +1
          Tales from the Vienna Woods .... To the market in Makhachkala from Grozny. Yes, they fly to Milan and not for sales, but for new collections ..

          Where did you get such reverence for those in power?
          I will disappoint you a little, they are the same people as everyone else and nothing human is alien to them. Moreover, it was a dozen years ago.
          You probably don't remember one of the characters who came to the Kremlin in sneakers and a tracksuit?
          God save this country from USE graduates.

          You are their bright representative. You do not know anything about what happened before, but you are drawing conclusions.
  3. Basarev
    Basarev 24 November 2021 14: 28
    +52
    The answer is obvious. The devil is afraid to reason with the shaitan. It’s not civilized Russians to spread rot with rags and slime.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 18
      +2
      In 2000, something was not scary, but those born on Putin's maternity capital did not find it.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 26 November 2021 10: 11
        -1
        The answer is obvious. In 2000, the devil was in favor in the west, he and his Caudle were not prevented from stealing. But there is a legend that after the story with Dubrovka, when more people died from the deliberate actions of special forces than from the hands of terrorists, the attitude of the West personally towards the devil changed. And, fearing to finally lose his disposition, he began to curry favor in every possible way and, only for the sake of preserving the handshake, merged the actually won second war. That is, he acted vile and cowardly, acted like Gorbachev, acted like Revan: for the sake of personal forgiveness, he threw ashes the many years of efforts of the entire people. The irony is that in 14 AD it happened and Putin lost his heavenly mandate. And in this sense, the boys died in vain, and for this the devil will never be forgiven. I foresee that even in our youth we will see him punished for all his heinous crimes. Not a single episode and not a single name will be forgotten. He will pay for his sins. Pay for the death of every innocent he killed.
  4. knn54
    knn54 24 November 2021 14: 33
    +16
    -There are more effective ways to resolve territorial disputes.
    Frankly, Ingushetia and Dagestan got it.
    Without justifying such actions from the state point of view, I do not exclude that a more effective method may lead to another "outbreak" in the same Ingushetia.
    No offense will be said, in the Russian, Ottoman empires there were governors / governor-generals who successfully resolved issues of different levels.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 24 November 2021 14: 41
      +41
      I'll just give my comment from another thread
      No "republics", "autonomies" and a handful of "presidents."
      Moreover, the governor, like the heads of the law enforcement agencies, should not be local, with constant rotation, so as not to grow in connections, because in the Caucasus, clannishness, teips and other Middle Ages, which means nepotism and corruption.
      1. alystan
        alystan 24 November 2021 15: 33
        +9
        And Putin has a godfather in Ukraine, friends of the Rotenbergs, matchmakers in Tatarstan ...
        Continue or stop it?
        1. Yakov Moskalenko
          Yakov Moskalenko 24 November 2021 18: 34
          .
          Well, probably if you come to power, you will be the most honest and decent
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 24 November 2021 15: 51
        +6
        "Federation" If a federation. then the presidents, something everyone is ashamed to say the word state. It's time to understand Russia is a trading republic, where every other godfather, where everything is bought and sold.
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      4. teptyar
        teptyar 25 November 2021 12: 55
        +2
        agree. In Turkey, it is, they go to another region for growth, rotations are frequent. The common people in the Republics of the Russian Federation are not very happy with how the local princes grow and get rich, and in the regions too. One country should have one Law for all.
    2. alystan
      alystan 24 November 2021 15: 05
      +5
      Apparently, the federal center is not going to do anything at all, and the situation will continue to escalate.

      Doesn't it remind you of anything else, if you don't go deeper into Otoman times?
      For me, there is a clear parallel here with the well-known events in Sumgaiti, Vilnius, Tbilisi.
      What this led to and how it ended, we all know very well ...
      And the governors sit in places, only zero sense from them.
  5. New Year day
    New Year day 24 November 2021 14: 37
    +45
    ... Russian flags are not visible in the photographs, only the flags of the Chechen Republic. This suggests that the security forces of Chechnya seem to act independently, under the jurisdiction of the Chechen Republic.

    Is it really not clear that Chechnya, a fellow traveler, will remind of itself and its rights at the first opportunity.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 24 November 2021 14: 50
      +52
      No wonder, oh no wonder there were no national units in the USSR. And they sent these warriors of Allah away from their own borders. Despite the lack of knowledge of the Russian language.
      And so consider, at the expense of Russia, they prepared and perfectly armed a couple of Chechen brigades of the Russian Guard, which turned out to be Chechguard
      1. Yakov Moskalenko
        Yakov Moskalenko 24 November 2021 18: 36
        .
        Well, what did it lead to in the USSR it was like that. And in the Russian empire, local princes ruled and had their own nukers and served faithfully
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 20
          0
          Not even funny.
      2. teptyar
        teptyar 25 November 2021 12: 59
        0
        When it got hot, they were during the Second World War. Cossack units. Bashkavdivision
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 25 November 2021 13: 40
          +4
          Cossack divisions are national military units?
          Except 112 cav. the division got its name from the places of formation, according to the national composition they were not homogeneous - Bashkirs, Tatars, Russians.
          All.
          If this is the national part, then that's it. Until now, there have been none.
          As we can see, currently only one region of Russia has its own national parts - Chechnya.
  6. New Year day
    New Year day 24 November 2021 14: 40
    +33
    ... The permit was issued, but the nature of the "exercises" evokes thoughts about ... excessive independence of the Chechen security officials.

    It is worth recalling that they have long been the masters in Russia, but when the opera came from Russia to take a bandit, they immediately screamed about illegality
    1. Serge-667
      Serge-667 24 November 2021 15: 22
      +23
      that's when the opera came from Russia to take the bandit, then immediately screams about illegality


      By the way, yes! How quickly this story was hushed up.
  7. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 24 November 2021 14: 41
    +57
    It was necessary to bring things to an end 20 years ago! Embers tend to ignite! And we left too much coal! We'll have some more! Blood (not only someone else's) will have to be poured!
  8. steelmaker
    steelmaker 24 November 2021 14: 49
    +39
    Mediocrities rule! And mediocrities do not solve problems, they create them!
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 24 November 2021 19: 59
      +15
      Why in Russia whose children abroad are not declared foreign agents?
  9. Andrey Moskvin
    Andrey Moskvin 24 November 2021 14: 52
    +1
    Ramzan is not Akhmetovich, but Akhmadovich.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 24 November 2021 14: 58
    +10
    Moscow is obliged to indicate
    Well, no, we don't have either Comrade Stalin or his assistant Beria ...
    It can be assumed that from Moscow, at least, they cycled ... but this is not always enough.
    1. Kamarada
      Kamarada 24 November 2021 15: 59
      +23
      Yes, there are cowards in power, opportunists, thieves and crooks. And still their partners are so mother.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 November 2021 16: 09
        0
        There is everyone in power, always ... at the moment, the one-man command is conditional.
        There is a ruling system in which there may well be different "towers" ... they did not agree among themselves or one of them kicked up ...
        Maybe we'll see what follows.
    2. Grandfather Mozai
      Grandfather Mozai 30 November 2021 16: 11
      +1
      From Moscow tsikuli? Do not make me laugh)))
  11. Glagol1
    Glagol1 24 November 2021 14: 58
    +21
    The federal center is obliged to have in these republics special forces of the Russian Guard, staffed by those who do not come from these places. Under the direct mandate of Putin. The task is to prevent the initiative of especially zealous princelings. Putin himself is obliged to suppress this outrage by personal communication with Kadyrov. It is clear that the Caucasus is a delicate matter, but, as you know, where it is thin, there it is torn. And such processes should not be allowed to take their course.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 24 November 2021 15: 14
      +27
      Quote: Glagol1
      Putin himself is obliged to suppress this outrage by personal communication with Kadyrov

      Rave. Everyone should be equal not before Putin, but before the law. As comrade. Saakhov: do not confuse personal interest with state
    2. Azis
      Azis 24 November 2021 17: 29
      +19
      Special forces in bulk, one military police two battalions. There they still have a semi-private "university of special forces", about which they were enthusiastically broadcasting some time ago. And give no way to their chief, otherwise he will be offended ... The territory is in fact the same as in the 90s, independent from the state, but this naturally does not concern money, as in the past.
  12. Alex66
    Alex66 24 November 2021 14: 59
    +18
    For some reason I remembered the film "Girls" and the cook's remark: "Oh, and I fed you on my own head."
  13. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 24 November 2021 15: 07
    0
    As far as I know, the Ingush have no teips.
    1. Olkhovsky
      Olkhovsky 25 November 2021 09: 23
      +1
      As far as I know, the Ingush have no teips.
      you have incorrect information. The Ingush and Chechens are practically the same Vainakh people, speaking the same language with a slight difference. Both have teips.
  14. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 24 November 2021 15: 10
    +57
    = ... sympathize with Ramzan Akhmetovich. And the end of the war in Chechnya is also a matter of which one can be proud for the rest of his life. =
    Holy naivete. Not willingly, Kadyrov ended the war.
    1. He realized, like his father, that the war was lost outright.
    2. If he had continued it, he would not have become the leader of Chechnya.
    Therefore, he killed two birds with one stone - he became a leader and postponed the war until the best times for Chechnya. And she will, do not hesitate. The knife in the back of Russia will stick out.
    God forbid that I was mistaken.
    1. Azis
      Azis 24 November 2021 17: 22
      +10
      There were three Zaitsev. The third hare is money that was then allocated for the "restoration" of Chechnya and goes to this "subject of the Federation" to this day. It seems to me that the third hare is the most important.
    2. aglet
      aglet 24 November 2021 18: 10
      +13
      "became a leader and pushed the war back to better times for Chechnya"
      here is a small moment, he did not become a leader, but he was appointed a leader. as I remember now, a shot on TV, how he was taken to the Kremlin after the bomb was blown up. in national Chechen dress - gray adibass and sneakers.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 24 November 2021 18: 19
        -6
        Quote: aglet

        here is a small moment, he did not become a leader, but he was appointed a leader.

        Those. did he not become a leader? Who is the leader of Chechnya then? Are you really?
        1. aglet
          aglet 24 November 2021 20: 24
          +10
          "Ie he did not become a leader? Who is the leader of Chechnya then? Are you really?"
          specially, for people like you, I repeat, he did not become the leader of Chechnya, he was appointed to them. and if you consider how much dough they piled up for this, then even you could become the leader of Chechnya. I, thank God, know the local tribes well enough to strive to become their leader
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 25 November 2021 00: 17
            -9
            Quote: aglet
            specially for people like you

            Especially for people like you, I repeat the question - is Kadyrov a leader? Or someone else?
            1. aglet
              aglet 25 November 2021 09: 16
              +5
              "Especially for people like you" I will not explain anything else. he was appointed by Putin as the leader of Chechnya
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 25 November 2021 09: 49
                -2
                Quote: aglet
                "Especially for people like you" I will not explain anything else. he was appointed by Putin as the leader of Chechnya

                He was: appointed, elected, received the post by inheritance, what difference does that make? But - a leader. He wanted to become one and he became one. If Chechnya did not want him, in those conditions, he would not have been a leader, and Putin would not have been able to impose him on Chechnya, I repeat, in those specific conditions.
          2. saigon
            saigon 25 November 2021 12: 50
            0
            But the question is that Chechnya is not united by even rows of Kadyrov's supporters, teips their interests are quiet fussing under carpets.
            The tangle of interests there is no worse than the scale everywhere, but all the same under the moon.
  15. Serge-667
    Serge-667 24 November 2021 15: 14
    +5
    ... which means that the authorization to conduct the "exercises" was issued. Either in Moscow or in Rostov-on-Don ...


    I'm not sure at all. With a probability of 99,9, no one has given any permits.
  16. Mishka78
    Mishka78 24 November 2021 15: 15
    +18
    They are Putin's nukers. They are loyal to him personally, and not to the country. Apparently they sensed that the eternally young is weakening, they show strength.
    1. Kesha1980
      Kesha1980 24 November 2021 17: 02
      +9
      From the flags you can see whose nukers they are and from the slogans you can hear that there is power for them.
  17. RoTTor
    RoTTor 24 November 2021 15: 15
    +8
    There should not be any autonomy within a single country.
    The USSR and Yugoslavia have already played out with this.
    Only provinces / provinces with a rigid central government
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 24 November 2021 15: 40
      +8
      Quite right! The rulers of the times of the USSR showed weakness, having spawned a bunch of republics such as Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus on the territory of the Russian Empire, as a result we have a bunch of “independent” countries along the perimeter, which Russia is forced to maintain, if not directly, then indirectly. of the former republics of Central Asia, which en masse travels to Russia to work. This simply should not be.
      1. alystan
        alystan 25 November 2021 20: 00
        0
        And how should it be with you?
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 November 2021 15: 44
      +5
      The reasons for the collapse of both the USSR and the SFRY are completely different.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 24 November 2021 19: 08
        +4
        Alexey, good evening! hi I haven't seen you here for a long time. We live in an interesting time, in a period of universal decay. But many, alas, do not see this. The laws of evolution have not been canceled. If there are no external enemies, from the word at all, the species degrades, and then dies out, food becomes less ... wink
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 November 2021 19: 18
          +8
          Good evening, Alexey! There was no time, I had to move, the old people are sick, care is needed. Now I am also near the mountains. Psebay.)))
          Quote: parusnik
          We live in an interesting time, in a period of global disintegration, but many, alas, do not see this.

          The only question is how much it will affect us. I don't want blood. And many simply watch TV too often and now there is nightingale droppings instead of brains.
  18. Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 November 2021 15: 45
    +6
    First
    And what division of “ours” can be, if everything around is “ours”?
    But what about Khrushchev who handed over the Crimea to Ukraine.?
    Secondly, the law has not yet been passed. but probably in advance. with the word rebellion, one cannot mention the Chechens. As Kadyrov suggested. "somewhere in the vastness of Russia."
    And finally, it may be enough to make claims to all outsiders. So the Kremlin said I don't mind.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 24 November 2021 19: 13
      +2
      According to all reports, the initiative came from Nikita Khrushchev. However, he was not yet the sole leader at the time. The first person in the state and the generally recognized successor of Stalin until 1955 was Georgy Malenkov, who not only headed the government, but also chaired the meetings of the Presidium of the Central Committee, including when considering the transfer of Crimea.

      The assertions contained in some Internet publications that Nikita Sergeevich decided to "give Crimea" after two glasses of cognac, or unexpectedly stunned colleagues on the way to the Kremlin canteen during a break in one of the sessions of the Presidium of the Central Committee, confining himself to the explanation: "It's easier this way," belong to the category of myths ...

      Documents on the transfer of Crimea, signed by Khrushchev
      does not exist. Yes, and such powers at that time
      he hadn't.
  19. Tagan
    Tagan 24 November 2021 15: 56
    .
    Quote: Basarev
    The answer is obvious. The devil is afraid to reason with the shaitan. It’s not civilized Russians to spread rot with rags and slime.

    Who is talking about what, and anti-axers about slurry.))
    1. aglet
      aglet 24 November 2021 18: 13
      +6
      "Who is talking about what, and anti-axers about slurry"
      Well, yes, this is Tagan, who is preoccupied with vaccination, sees the intrigues of enemies everywhere
  20. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 24 November 2021 15: 58
    +6
    By themselves, the "exercises" of the security forces in the border areas is not that nonsense, but it looks strange.

    Very strange!!!
    what Didn't understand from the article where this "group" conducted the exercises? If we are talking about concentration at the administrative border with Dagestan and in the border zone of the Russian Federation, it turns out in the Itum-Kalinsky district of the Chechen Republic?
    Familiar places.
    I do not understand, regardless of departmental affiliation (Rosgvardia or the Ministry of Internal Affairs), they are a law enforcement agency and a security structure of the executive body of the Russian Federation. Federal, financed from the budget of the Russian Federation. In the Republic of Altai and the Republic of Khakassia, the fighters of the Russian Guard conducted tactical exercises in mountainous terrain, did not drive around with the flags of the republics (subjects of the Russian Federation).

    PS
    Civilian vehicles in a convoy for show-off?
    Such a number of FiDzhikov (Toyota FJ Cruser) in the Russian Federation have seen only in the Far East and the Caucasus.
    TLK 200, Grant (or Kalina), UAZ-Patriot, you can't see around the corner ...
    1. Azis
      Azis 24 November 2021 17: 15
      +23
      So for a long time they have not even met the Russian flag on their uniforms, everything is completely its own attributes. The "very loyal" hero of Russia pursues a policy completely independent of the center.
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 24 November 2021 17: 52
        +14
        Well, in the frames of the video, Russian flags both on cars and on uniforms flicker here and there.
        But this does not change the wolfish essence. But the wolfhound has grown decrepit and probably cannot go to the toilet.
    2. aglet
      aglet 24 November 2021 17: 58
      0
      “I don’t understand, regardless of departmental affiliation (Rosgvardia or the Ministry of Internal Affairs), they are a law enforcement agency and a power structure of the executive body of the Russian Federation. Federal, financed from the budget of the Russian Federation”
      everything is fine, but in Chechnya this is the personal army of Ramzan, financed from the budget of the Russian Federation
  21. depressant
    depressant 24 November 2021 17: 47
    +31
    Dear Roman!
    You impose on the commentators the heavy need to squeeze into the narrow gap between Article 282 of the Criminal Code and the desire to describe the truth as it is. And this despite the fact that tolerance in the form of a "white man's burden" is for some reason obligatory for some peoples, but not at all obligatory for others.
    As recently as today, on the resource "Historical Thimbles" I managed to find an article entitled "Why do blacks fail with a civilized state ..."
    After lengthy KU before the reader, they say, do not think, I am tolerant, the author has laid out the whole truth about the earthquake in Haiti, which claimed more than 222 thousand lives and crippled 311 thousand inhabitants. The whole world began to flood Haiti with humanitarian aid, and it seemed to fall into a bottomless abyss. Because it was immediately beaten off from the "humanitarians" by bandits, headed by the president himself, and all this with the full understanding and approval of the entire local population, nevertheless forced to buy this aid at exorbitant prices. And the introduction of American troops did not help. Haitians are still categorically reluctant to work and have been demanding for many years not to interrupt the delivery of humanitarian aid - to this day! Earthquakes in Haiti are frequent and some of them do kill many. Only in 2010 alone, out of 222 thousand people killed, 140 thousand actually died at the hands of each other. And the facts about how it all happened are terrifying. And even more horrifying is the belief of this people that the whole world, destroyed by the earthquake, is obliged to restore them by the hands of volunteers from other countries, and they themselves do not touch a finger! They won't work! They will not fit into modern civilization, since they quickly caught the weak string of this very civilization - humanism.
    I characterize this as a dead-end branch of modern civilization - both the Haitian foundations and the humanism of the white man. Exactly as a dead end was the civilization of the Tatar-Mongols, who did not manage to become settled and therefore disappeared without a trace in other peoples and remained in our historical past. And the same dead end is the level of civilizational development of the mountain peoples of the Caucasus. Only if under the Tatar-Mongols humanism was not honored, now it blooms in a double color, taking on a terrifying state form of suppressing the overly civilized in order to pay tribute to the dead-end civilization branch. After all, if you don't pay or, in the opinion of that branch, pay little, the dead end will always find on the side someone to sell to at a more reasonable price. And, in my opinion, I have already found it. How else to assess what is presented in your article?
    This dead-end branch, which does not know how to produce, but only to consume at the expense of others, parasitizing those who work and produce, has found its own way of earning money, putting up its gorges and itself for sale as an attachment to them - a commodity, which is also a source of eternal threat to us , tributaries.
    I think the political power should finally wake up and find a solution to the problem. And then, after all, Tatarstan has begun to stir, and by no means the stubborn Stavropol and Krasnodar Territories.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 24 November 2021 19: 04
      +7
      Quote: depressant
      And then, after all, Tatarstan has begun to stir, and by no means the stubborn Stavropol and Krasnodar Territories.

      Hello Lyudmila Yakovlevna! I agree with your comment, but I live in the Krasnodar Territory, in the 90s there was no national showdown in our country, and there is not even now. Adygeis (Circassians), no, they have not become Russified, their national traditions are just as strong, but we get along well with them, there are many mixed marriages. Young people fight, of course, mainly because of women.)))) Well, that's always been the case. And we dance lezginka on holidays, and Russians and Armenians often do it better than the Circassians. There are no ethnic conflicts with the Armenians, the refugees from Karabakh tried to stir up the local Armenians in the 90s, so the local Armenians themselves swept them aside. So far, it is peaceful here, and the division is only on the basis of property. I think that it is still unrealistic to shake off the Circassians with the Armenians, we have been living together for too long, we have already got used to each other.))))
      1. depressant
        depressant 24 November 2021 19: 30
        +13
        Good evening, dear colleague!
        When I mentioned the Stavropol Territory, I had in mind the long-standing dissatisfaction of this region with the behavior of the Chechens - a dissatisfaction that should have been broadcast to the Kremlin and was probably broadcast. I have read about self-defense units. There were other cases as well. But that was a few years ago. Has anything changed since then? It seems to me that the people of Stavropol would be glad to get rid of such a neighbor as Chechnya. As for the Krasnodar Territory, the economy there is such that the locals raise questions. The prosperity of raider seizures of small businesses through the administrative resource, the landing of entrepreneurs - some information reaches me. Speaking about the possibility of losing these territories, this is exactly what I meant. After all, the reasons for dissatisfaction with the policy of the center may be different. Even a worm will turn. And yes, in the previous comment, from this point of view, I deviated somewhat from the topic. As for the Armenians, I know from life experience that they are capable of being livable. I would not say that about Azerbaijanis. Even here, in the suburbs, I had two collisions with them, and the neighbors - not to count. The national question has somehow become too aggravated recently, taking anecdotal forms such as a ban on mentioning the nationality of a criminal. In general, redundant
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 November 2021 19: 55
          +3
          Quote: depressant
          The national question has somehow become too aggravated recently, taking anecdotal forms such as a ban on mentioning the nationality of a criminal.

          The usual thing for capitalism is "divide and conquer."
          Quote: depressant
          As for the Krasnodar Territory, the economy there is such that the locals raise questions. The prosperity of raider seizures of small businesses through an administrative resource, landing of entrepreneurs

          Remember Kushchevka, today in small towns it is everywhere like this, only the "light option", without any special atrocities. Crime and bureaucracy are so intertwined that you can't immediately understand where who is. And also nepotism and clannishness. For the son of the head of the colony, "the issues were resolved" with the victim, the "overseer", he gave money to take the application.)))
          Quote: depressant
          When I mentioned the Stavropol Territory, I had in mind the long-standing dissatisfaction of this region with the behavior of the Chechens,

          I don't know anything about the Stavropol Territory now, but I heard earlier that the people were indignant.

          Quote: depressant
          I would not say that about Azerbaijanis. Even here, in the suburbs ...

          We have a lot of Armenians, so the Azerbaijanis do not stick their nose out there, from the word at all, and even in the markets they are not visible.)))))
        2. alystan
          alystan 25 November 2021 19: 50
          +1
          First, put things in order in the law enforcement system of the region and the rest would then be easier to solve. And the governor, too, does not arouse much confidence.
        3. Knizhnik
          Knizhnik 26 November 2021 12: 50
          +1
          The national question has somehow become too aggravated recently
          The media began to cover more. Kadyrov's appeal to Simonyan is an attempt to show that "I know this is a company and you are one of them."
      2. alystan
        alystan 25 November 2021 19: 58
        +2
        And what about the law enforcement system of the region, otherwise I addressed this question to Lyudmila Yakovlevna below? It seems to me that everything is not so simple there, and it is not very easy for people from other places to see or understand anything there. However, the problems there are probably the same as in other places. It's just that the news about the judges and the traffic police officers was deposited in my memory, and the cat cried the news ...
  22. Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 November 2021 18: 04
    +8
    I don't see a single popular Chechen Buggy.

    And the rest is not surprising at all. They can do anything there.
    From the only accidentally known known .:
    Kadyrov Banned Pension Reform In Chechnya.
    He forgave himself debts to Gazprom.
    He declared jihad to Myanme.
    Introduced sanctions against Western officials in Chechnya

    And the rest is smaller every week, good news.
  23. nikvic46
    nikvic46 24 November 2021 18: 22
    +9
    Decommunization has done its job. I wake up to nationalism from all corners. And then there will still be. Perhaps there was no friendship between peoples. But the strong friendship between the working peoples was strong. Only the nationalities did not work at our factory, and everything was fine. Because no one took away from another job.
    1. your1970
      your1970 25 November 2021 09: 47
      0
      Quote: nikvic46
      But the strong friendship between the working peoples was strong

      Yeah ... there was a particularly strong friendship in Karaganda between the locals and the Chechens ...

      Later in the 90s we went on a business trip to one of our regions. 16 Urals with ammunition ..
      The village, wells in the yards, several Urals need to be filled with water - and not a single person has given water ... even to drink ...

      Do not give conscripts to drink - the height of friendship and mutual understanding

      The commander went berserk and we walked through the gardens, first along one side of the village, then along the other. belay .

      "Strong friendship between working people" ... yeah ...
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 25 November 2021 09: 52
        +1
        Sergey. You know very well that even at the end of the 80s, a riot began. My son served in 94. So they didn't even give him a uniform. I came on vacation in my own clothes. Well, what nationality is to blame here?
        1. your1970
          your1970 25 November 2021 10: 20
          0
          In Karaganda, locals and Chechens began to slaughter each other immediately after the Chechens were evicted there, and they did this almost until the 90s.
          In 1988, the Ternopil guys told me that Ridna Nenka feeds the whole damned Union
  24. Tagan
    Tagan 24 November 2021 18: 33
    -9
    Quote: aglet
    "Who is talking about what, and anti-axers about slurry"
    Well, yes, this is Tagan, who is preoccupied with vaccination, sees the intrigues of enemies everywhere

    Well, as always, Akselbant, not burdened with logic, is trying to reason about something. Am I concerned about the vaccine? I have been vaccinated and am not worried, and the opinion of the anti-axers jumping with foam at the mouth, as if they were bitten by someone, does not interest me at all. Yes, I don’t see enemies like you. The enemy is the one who is smart and cunning. And you are your own enemies))
  25. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 November 2021 18: 42
    +8
    For those who have not yet understood - the beginning of the 80s is being repeated.
    1. depressant
      depressant 24 November 2021 19: 38
      +12
      Knell, that's for sure. I remember this early 80's. Let me say briefly: frost on the skin with memories. Only then did they burn and slaughter us in their territories in order to secede, and now they are us - in ours. And what strategic task is being solved? Are Khusnullin and Nabiullina going to divide the country into pieces? Am I supposed to think so?
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 24 November 2021 20: 09
        +7
        I am always glad for your comments, Lyudmila!) At first I wrote, then my hands dropped stupidly - I think why am I signing again? As if it would change something .. I think that the process of disintegration of the USSR is not over yet. By analogy with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire or the Austro-Hungarian Empire, there is no national state left of us, although we have lost a clearly expressed supranational one. The problem that contributed to the collapse of the USSR - it was NOT solved. We again follow the same rake, forget that "a bird in the hand is better than a girl in the distance", we forget about the priorities that form any state, again we begin to lie astronomically and try to build some kind of community on this lie, again we do not notice the political and ideological and cultural stagnation, again underestimating entrepreneurship and law, and so on, so on. Sometimes I do not understand for whom / why we are building all this SO, how it happens and IN GENERAL. The face of our state is not at all visible in the future, this is something that it is completely unacceptable for us to think and talk about, we prefer to surrender ourselves to retrofetishism. And with this we, too, a paradox, remind the 80s, with their endless sucking and actualization of events and paradigms of 70 years ago. It must be assumed that the strong national elites inside the country also feel all this, as they did in the 80s. They also lose sight of a united future. And in case of some kind of disintegration tendencies and political decline - these guys will be more prepared than you and me, it seems to me ..
        1. depressant
          depressant 24 November 2021 20: 31
          +8
          Amazingly exactly what you see, Knell. They will be more ready than we are. Because they have already formed their own national elites, respectively, the hierarchy around them. Of course, in the process they will fight for power - each in his own ulus. But the uluses - they have already taken shape, and just hang down as it starts. And we?
  26. parusnik
    parusnik 24 November 2021 18: 47
    +5
    and what kind of armed formations are they?
    at one time they wrote about illegal gangs on the territory of the Chechen Republic, and this is apparently legal ... conducted exercises .. wink
    1. K9_SWAT
      K9_SWAT 24 November 2021 19: 34
      +2
      As the satirist Mikhail Zadornov once wrote. They were illegal, but now they are legal.
  27. TovSaaakhov
    TovSaaakhov 24 November 2021 18: 58
    0
    Yes, in general, it's not a secret for anyone that not everyone in the Russian Federation lives in the 21st century, many do not even reach 20 ...
  28. Andrey Stavropolsky
    Andrey Stavropolsky 24 November 2021 19: 46
    -1
    About 15 years ago I read their director of German-Chechen origin "The Leap of the Wolf", in my opinion, this is how he wrote that Chechnya is moving towards gaining statehood through the policy of the Kremlin. If this is the case, then it is necessary to separate the heavy regions at the peak of strength and not in weakness. Cz with the Ingush forward. As I understand it, the hegmon overseas has weakened a lot, you can throw off the ballast. Although the entire Sevkavkaz is the former Khazar Kaganate, if I'm not mistaken.
    1. stalker 75
      stalker 75 24 November 2021 20: 16
      0
      Remove SIBERIA from the ballast. In 1991, I remember half of the country removed from the ballast. So that Siberia that sowing. the Caucasus can be sacrificed for the sake of preserving Muscovy. FORWARD LET'S RISE From our knees to the borders of the Moscow principality.
  29. valera75
    valera75 24 November 2021 20: 04
    +14
    [/ quote] [quote = Kesha1980] A "salam aleikum", when the commander addressed the built personnel on the parade ground, was it already prescribed in the Charter? They put it insolently, without hesitation.

    When they received berets in a sensational story recently, they shouted Ahmad Sila and not special forces force and did not kneel when they received berets in their hands as it should be done according to tradition. I have always said this and will say so. Yes, and the dags are the same, never out of 29 battles Khabib saw that he would go out with the Russian flag, but only in a papakha symbolizing his republic. For me, these republics are reliable at minus 99% and no one has ever me will convince you, and if I don't know the Czechs well, then oh, how good it is, I served with them in 93 and I know what they are capable of and what they are.
  30. stalker 75
    stalker 75 24 November 2021 20: 12
    +1
    Thanks to the sun-faced. Created a territory controlled by bandits.
  31. north 2
    north 2 24 November 2021 21: 31
    +4
    In the latest amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it was not necessary to pour and direct decorative cosmetics from empty to empty, but it was necessary to abolish all these republics and territories created according to the national principle. And instead of them, create provinces on a geographic and economic basis. And there are no local parliaments and no local presidents or local legislatures. Provinces, General Governors and Governors and that's it. By the way, if after the Second World War Stalin would have done the same by abolishing these fourteen Soviet republics and in their place would have created the provinces of Soviet Socialist Russia, then to this day our Motherland would have been within the borders of the USSR in 1988 and not any rejection of the borders of Russia 400 years ago would not be and we would all live in a single country.
    I can state with great regret that Putin and Russia are repeating their mistakes today after the Stalinist USSR. After Stalin, then under Khrushchev they began, under Brezhnev they continued and under Gorbachev they continued from the Baltic states, at the expense of the RFSSR, to make a showcase for the USSR and feed the nationalists there. And in 1991 they stuck a knife in the back of the USSR. And then the Chechens instantly took out their dagger. Well, what is happening with this Chechnya now? Tribute to Russia they are paid, or what.?
    1. Fanur Galiev
      Fanur Galiev 25 November 2021 06: 44
      +3
      I apologize for getting in with my opinion, but still. The problem of modern Russia is not that we have national republics. Also, as in the USSR, the existence of such was not a problem. During the Second World War, nothing prevented these republics from fiercely fighting for a united Soviet Motherland, and even those who were not part of the USSR at that time fought. At the same time, for example, during the times of the Russian Empire, the peoples were not eager to fight for the Tsar and the Fatherland, moreover, this concerned not only the peoples from the national outskirts, but also the Russians, who are the absolute majority, although then again about no national republics and did not hear. The problem of the Union was the gradual degradation of the party, which ensured the unity of the state, with a deterioration in planning, a gradual increase in numerous internal problems, which, unfortunately, were not solved or were solved very badly. At some point, something just happened that should have happened - the degenerated nomenclature, in fact, revived capitalism did their job. And even if it was written everywhere that there are no national republics, and instead of them there are only provinces or regions, it would not hurt them. Also, as it did not prevent Donetsk and Lugansk from seceding from Ukraine (and there, let me remind you, no one supports the unitary state and the idea of ​​federalization), as well as the collapse of the Russian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, or the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
  32. zwlad
    zwlad 24 November 2021 23: 23
    -1
    Well, where is without Voronezh then?
  33. bandabas
    bandabas 25 November 2021 02: 00
    +1
    Let them cut among themselves. And, better, as Stalin once did. Only not to Kazakhstan, but the USA. There will be their African American opponents. And everyone will be happy!
  34. Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
    Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers 25 November 2021 07: 32
    +4
    Putin's infantryman threatened the central security forces that if they appeared in Chechnya without his permission, he would give the order to destroy them.
  35. Evgeny Ivanov_5
    Evgeny Ivanov_5 25 November 2021 08: 30
    +2
    The third Chechen one is not far off?
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 25 November 2021 12: 05
      -1
      will not, it is not profitable for them
  36. Million
    Million 25 November 2021 09: 44
    -2
    Circus, and nothing more.
    But why is Putin silent?
  37. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 25 November 2021 10: 21
    0
    What has changed is not entirely clear. Why, instead of such beautiful things, there are some sort of showdowns on the Internet, scandals ... Now, small-town battles for a piece of land that belongs to the Federation ...

    By and large, little has changed. What is happening is a logical continuation of "that", the last reconciliation. Here we have a classic plot with the notorious double-edged sword: reconciliation is certainly good, but the way it was "constructed" and implemented is bad (or very bad) ...
  38. Mr. PeZhe
    Mr. PeZhe 25 November 2021 10: 21
    -1
    And the end of the war in Chechnya is also a matter of which one can be proud for the rest of his life.

    "The end of the war in Chechnya" was carried out by issuing cop crusts and shoulder straps to the bandits and terrorists. And the main bandit became the general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    Another "brilliant" decision of our galactic strategist and his entourage.
    1. Million
      Million 25 November 2021 10: 45
      +5
      The joke is circulating on the net:
      "Hero of Russia Ramzan Kadyrov at one time accused another Hero of Russia, Sulim Yamadaev, of involvement in the murder of his father, Hero of Russia Akhmat Kadyrov. As a result, Hero of Russia Sulim Yamadaev was killed in Dubai, and the Dubai police put him on the international wanted list for his murder. another Hero of Russia - Adam Delimkhanov.The brother of the killed Hero of Russia Ruslan Yamadayev, also a Hero of Russia, was killed in Moscow by other not yet identified Heroes of Russia ..
      -"
  39. Dmitry Antonov
    Dmitry Antonov 25 November 2021 14: 12
    +8
    Mr. President began to shift too many decisions from his tired shoulders to the regions. Well, they try. Who is in that much.
    When the Chechens turned into the personal guard of the President of Russia, it is known - after the shameful Khasavyurt. And apparently, since then, it is not the President who wags his tail, but the tail - the President. Well, those who disagree, and those who can become stronger than the Chechens, are killed in a helicopter crash, or as a result of sabotage of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    After all, Chechnya is not so small and proud, behind it are the Arabs with a lot of dough and a desire to control Russia. It's like the Banderaites - not so brave themselves, just behind them - the United States.
    As soon as the center completely weakens, and the current President does everything for this, Chechnya will become the most combat-ready republic in the vastness of former Russia.
    So, if I were the Russians, I would already start thinking.
  40. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 25 November 2021 14: 20
    0
    Well, it was not the Chechen Republic that started this "discussion" - the decision of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation dated 06.12.2018 No. 44-P on the case of checking the constitutionality of the Law of the Republic of Ingushetia "On approval of the Agreement on the establishment of the border between the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic" and the Agreement on the establishment of the border between the Republic of Ingushetia and the Chechen Republic in connection with the request of the Head of the Republic of Ingushetia
    http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001201812070012?index=0&rangeSize=1

    And commentary on the ruling of the constitutional court of December 6, 2018 N 44-P
    In general, arguing that the border between the constituent entities of the Russian Federation was not established and that the agreement carried out its initial establishment, the Constitutional Court carefully bypasses the issue of the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia, constructing an incomprehensible thesis that “we are not talking about the expediency of changing the belonging or the territory of one or another constituent entity of the Russian Federation, but about their common, mutual need to delimit their territories. " According to the logic of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Ingushetia did not possess territory before the signing of the controversial Agreement. The question remains unanswered, what, in this case, were the spatial limits of the exercise of power in the Republic, normative regulation, economic and other types of activity, as well as how the provision of Part 1 of Article 67 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation was implemented in relation to the Republic of Ingushetia, according to which the territory of the Russian Federation includes itself the territory of its subjects. It is unlikely that the incompleteness of the process of formalizing the boundaries between regions can serve as a sufficient basis for the assertion that the constituent entities of Russia do not have their own territory.

    (Evloev I.M.)
    http://www.consultant.ru/law/podborki/soglashenie_ob_ustanovlenii_granic_mezhdu_subektami/
    © ConsultantPlus, 1992-2021
    Here, the initiators of the territorial disputes are not at all the leadership of the Chechen Republic.
  41. Klingon
    Klingon 25 November 2021 15: 35
    +6
    Separate Chechnya from the Russian Federation and get a mini Afghanistan. What can they really offer the world? What? Can you tell me offhand some Chechen who became a famous physicist, mathematician, engineer, inventor? Except for Esembaev and a couple of artists, no one comes to my mind. Or tourism? Where? Which Chechen is involved in MTV, croscantry or mountaineering? No, except for martial arts, nothing comes to mind.
    Regarding flags, symbols and greetings: what the hell is this, what kind of formation? Whom do we defend the Russian Federation or ... What "Alla-I-in-bar!" ?? Is it spelled out in official greetings according to the charter ?? This already resembles not regular formations but irregular broads! It is necessary to separate religion from the Armed Forces, and those who do not obey the charter are subject to a tribunal. This applies not only to Islam but also to all Christian priestly consecrations, etc.
    These are the Indians from the south of the Russian Federation.
    Well, it's not for nothing that at one time when I was still living in Grozny we called them Hurons wassat
    1. Tolianych
      Tolianych 28 November 2021 00: 55
      0
      They call their own people Hurons, not very educated ...
    2. Tolianych
      Tolianych 28 November 2021 00: 56
      0
      Ахмед Цебиев https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%90%D1%85%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
  42. Radikal
    Radikal 25 November 2021 16: 21
    -1
    The key word here is "teachings." And at the same time a contradiction. If these are exercises, then they should be included in the training plan for training personnel. Or, if they are unplanned, they must be coordinated with the federal center, that is, with Moscow.
    And to be more precise, with the Duelist, he was aware of the training plans, were they coordinated with him? In general, etc., etc. wassat
  43. Radikal
    Radikal 25 November 2021 16: 27
    +2
    Quote: Klingon
    Separate Chechnya from the Russian Federation and get a mini Afghanistan. What can they really offer the world? What? Can you tell me offhand some Chechen who became a famous physicist, mathematician, engineer, inventor? Except for Esembaev and a couple of artists, no one comes to my mind. Or tourism? Where? Which Chechen is involved in MTV, croscantry or mountaineering? No, except for martial arts, nothing comes to mind.
    Regarding flags, symbols and greetings: what the hell is this, what kind of formation? Whom do we defend the Russian Federation or ... What "Alla-I-in-bar!" ?? Is it spelled out in official greetings according to the charter ?? This already resembles not regular formations but irregular broads! It is necessary to separate religion from the Armed Forces, and those who do not obey the charter are subject to a tribunal. This applies not only to Islam but also to all Christian priestly consecrations, etc.
    These are the Indians from the south of the Russian Federation.
    Well, it's not for nothing that at one time when I was still living in Grozny we called them Hurons wassat

    Exactly. Local Russians called them Indians ... sad
  44. storm
    storm 25 November 2021 18: 03
    0
    It looks like the time has come to lift a squadron of Su-25 attack aircraft into the air and level this half-bandit column to the ground in order to stop tyranny and arbitrariness ...
  45. dgonni
    dgonni 25 November 2021 18: 57
    0
    I didn’t understand one thing! Why is it so surprised that Roman?
    De jure, Chechnya is part of the Russian Federation. De facto, it is an independent state with all the necessary structures and attributes. And having its own leader who gave the nightingale of fidelity to GDP personally!
    Not Russia but a specific person!
    If the cash flow from Russia dries up, Chechnya will wave its handle and set sail for free swimming, possibly taking Dagestan and Ingushetia with it.
  46. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 26 November 2021 05: 05
    +3
    It looks like our supreme, the vaccination had a big effect on his head, he hid in the bunker - I don't see anything, I don't hear anything.
  47. Pankrat25
    Pankrat25 26 November 2021 07: 18
    0
    This is the result of work on the principle of "take as much sovereignty as you want." Nothing, it is being corrected in small steps, the local presidents have been banned. Faster it is impossible, you can get a civil war. Now it is possible to correct the situation only by occupying people with something grandiose - large-scale, such as the BAM was built earlier to make people of different nationalities work together. I propose an idea: to build the Black-Caspian Sea canal, and to hire as many locals as possible, so that everyone would work together for a long time. This is the only way to smooth out the situation painlessly.
  48. EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 November 2021 08: 22
    0
    And then, as usual, it turns out that they figured it out without hysterics from those offended by Putin. This is despite the fact that the Chechen circus has long been ignored, since Kadyrov is still a clown.
  49. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 26 November 2021 09: 30
    +6
    I already wrote that the Chechens are acting precisely and pragmatically. Through them, the "federal center" conducts a huge number of illegal corruption operations. Very comfortable and pleasant. Stole from the budget? bring it to us! The stolen goods at a low percentage will be washed, cashed out, while with smiles, hugs, they will be called a brother, they will drive a deffchonok, they will say many pleasant words in a tavern.
    These gloomy Russians look at you as a despicable thief, even those who steal next to you. Eyes averted, wrinkled ... Very, you know, unpleasant. And in the eyes of the Chechen "brothers" you are a hero! Stole for the family, for "friends", what could be better ?! Maybe. If you killed someone else during this theft. Then the Chechens will simply go out into admiration - a warrior, a fighter, a hero! Well, how can you not transfer financial flows through these lovely people?
    However, there is a small detail. As soon as the Chechens came up with something, like their own army, which feeds from the federal budget, but does not obey anyone except Kadyrov, it suddenly turns out that it is impossible to argue with them) Because they have a daddy for everyone. Everything there is carefully recorded, filmed and taken into account. So sit down, federal government, and don't shine. It is unlikely that there is at least someone in the government who did not turn their gesheft through the Chechens)
    This is how the capitalist countries collapse. And socialist, where the honor is forgotten. Oh, of course, Kadyrov swears that his army is always "for the center"! And in the event of a war ... And now you can "not bother with the law." Just order, and they will kill, arrange a disaster, scare you into a stupor ... and daddy will be replenished)
    What smart, honest, disinterested and qualified rulers we have, our soul rejoices!
  50. ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 26 November 2021 13: 44
    0
    The Kremlin is losing its grip, from the tough Putin at the beginning of 2000, "Let's get wet in the outhouse." Not a trace remained. Everyone sees it and takes advantage of it. These are only flowers, with the arrival of a weak leader, a repetition of the secession of various Republics is possible, which Tatarstan alone stands with its "president" and Turkey, too, is presenting to the territory of the Russian Federation.