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China's Sohu: Russia Tests Anti-Satellite Weapons Shows US That It Can Shoot Down Their Secret X-37B Space Interceptor

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The Chinese press is discussing the accusations made by the American side against Russia after testing an anti-satellite weapons... The Americans point out that after the tests, Russia "left" in orbit a large number of debris from the downed satellite. The Pentagon, State Department and NASA argue that such tests are dangerous for the ISS and space research in general and threaten strategic stability.


In the Chinese edition of Sohu, they write that Russia has recognized the fact of the tests, not hiding the use of anti-satellite weapons. Material:

Russia shot down an old Soviet satellite with a new missile, showing the ability to turn the American X-37B orbital plane into a target.

Recall that this device is operated by NASA in conjunction with the US Air Force and is designated as "research". At the same time, military experts tend to believe that it is being used by the United States for military purposes - for example, options for space tracking of missile launches are being worked out, and tests are being carried out for its use as a promising space interceptor.

The Chinese author writes that it is the probability of the destruction of the X-37B orbital aircraft by a Russian missile that causes negative emotions in the United States. In order not to reveal the real reason for these emotions, the United States declared about the danger of the debris formed in orbit for the ISS. But the debris is not on the orbital trajectory of the International Space Station (about 60 km lower), but for the movements of the X-37B, it may well pose a threat, which outrages the United States. After all, they can lose the device, the cost of the development program of which is estimated at billions of dollars.

Sohu:

The United States fears this test the most precisely because its secret space interceptor, the X-37B, is at this orbital altitude where Russia demonstratively shot down an old Soviet satellite. Russian tests are tantamount to the statement "I can shoot down your X-37B spacecraft if necessary."

The Chinese author writes that for some reason the Pentagon did not have any special claims to India, which also tested anti-satellite weapons and as a result of which debris also appeared in orbit.
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  1. Russian German
    Russian German 18 November 2021 09: 00
    +31
    I'm glad for our designers and the military. And the dogs - let them bark. As you know, the caravan moves on.
    1. Maz
      Maz 18 November 2021 09: 13
      +17
      Toto Asmericans made such a hysteria in the media! To know the rocket is good, since they freak out.
      1. isv000
        isv000 18 November 2021 21: 57
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        Toto Asmericans made such a hysteria in the media! To know the rocket is good, since they freak out.

        In orbits flies approx. 7000 tons of garbage, and Russia is to blame for the danger for the ISS ... belay
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 18 November 2021 09: 16
      +11
      A threat to American domination in Space has emerged, and there is a hysteria among the exceptional.



      On November 15, the old Soviet satellite "Kosmos-1408" was shot down by a direct hit. Of interest is the fact that the height at which the target was located is approximately 1982 kilometers, which is an excellent indicator for modern weapons of this class, which not many have reached. For example: the American THAAD can operate at altitudes up to 560 kilometers, as well as the domestic S-200. Now Western astronomers have joined the topic - according to their data, the flight lasted only a few minutes, which tells us about very high speed characteristics, but this is no secret for a long time - the Nudoli interceptor set a record a couple of years ago, having covered more than 500 kilometers in 3000 minutes , while most of the flight took place in the atmosphere, which, in fact, causes certain difficulties. At the moment, the entire scientific world is chained to tracking the resulting fragments, but most of them have already burned out in the atmosphere and, in general, the tests can be considered safe - it is not possible that the Ministry of Defense would launch such a rocket without risk assessment.


      It turns out that Russia has confirmed in practice that it has a missile defense system capable of intercepting targets such as satellites at a great distance and height, which tells us about its "surgical" accuracy. But this is just the tip of the iceberg, because, as you know, work on satellites is only one of the tasks of the air defense system - many experts believe that its main purpose is to intercept groups of ballistic missiles and warheads long before they reach our borders - about half the way. In this scenario, it is enough to equip the interceptor with a special warhead, presumably a neutron one, to create a powerful radiation flux that neutralizes the entire grouping at once. It is very, very difficult to create effective countermeasures due to the specifics of the action of this ammunition, and if there are at least a couple of hundred such missiles in the country, there is a real opportunity to repel a massive nuclear strike of any type of ballistic missile, be it ICBMs or SLBMs. Of course, it is unrealistic to neutralize all goals, but the consequences will not be so catastrophic.

      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/survival_task/vozrojdenie-protivokosmicheskoi-oborony-v-rossii-uspeshno-ispytali-zrk-nudol-6194860a7d64510e940ad62e
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 18 November 2021 09: 30
        +6
        Of interest is the fact that the height at which the target was located is approximately 560 kilometers

        Of interest is the fact that:
        The Boeing X-37 (also known as the X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle (OTV)) is an experimental orbital aircraft designed to test future technologies. This reusable unmanned spacecraft is a 20% increased derivative of the X-40 (eng.) Rus. The aircraft is designed to function at altitudes of 200-750 km, it is able to quickly change orbits, maneuver.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 18 November 2021 09: 52
          +6
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Of interest is the fact that the height at which the target was located is approximately 560 kilometers

          Of interest is the fact that:
          The Boeing X-37 (also known as the X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle (OTV)) is an experimental orbital aircraft designed to test future technologies. This reusable unmanned spacecraft is a 20% increased derivative of the X-40 (eng.) Rus. The aircraft is designed to function at altitudes of 200-750 km, it is able to quickly change orbits, maneuver.



          ISS height 430 km. As soon as the satellite was destroyed, the Americans dropped a duck that Kosmos-1408 was at an altitude of 450 km. In fact, the altitude of the trajectory of the Kosmos-1408 satellite, aka "Celina-D", according to NASA data as of November 16, 2021, is about 650 km. The difference in height is 200 km!

          "Duck" about 465-490 km was thrown by an amateur astronomer on Facebook, was picked up in Houston.
          . Yesterday Russia loudly declared itself, testing its new rocket A-235 "Nudol" on a target in space. This was not the first test, but the last. It completes the test of this rocket.

          The current missile defense system A-135 "Amur", mine-based anti-missile defense of the city of Moscow, will now be supplemented by a new echelon of anti-missile long-range (transatmospheric) intercept A-235 "Nudol". Further, new copies will go on duty and not only near Moscow.

          After the United States withdrew from the ABM Treaty, Russia had to develop new missile defenses. And the blame for this space race lies entirely with the United States.

          America cannot fight modern wars without space satellites

          Missiles will not be able to aim, UAVs will not be able to fly. The troops will not be able to communicate with each other. All the network-centricity of the American military machine goes through space. The elimination, in just a few minutes, of key American satellites by Russian anti-satellite missiles, almost completely destroys the entire American military machine.

          It is quite possible that now they will not be able to answer. Their ballistic missiles will be blind and lose target. And the resulting Kessler syndrome will ensure the destruction of all American private space companies, the destruction of trillions of dollars already invested by the United States in space, that is, irreparable damage even before the outbreak of hostilities.

          Of course, all pro-American Russophobes have dropped their jaws. The effect was the same as that of Stephen King when launching the first satellite of the Earth: "For the first time I experienced horror - real horror, and not an encounter with demons or ghosts living in my imagination - on one October day in 1957."

          Then Russia opened space to mankind, now it can also close it ...



          ... Is the debris of the ISS harmful?

          No, they do not harm. The height of the station is 430 km. As soon as the satellite was destroyed, the Americans dropped a duck that Kosmos-1408 was at an altitude of 450 km. In fact, the altitude of the trajectory of the Kosmos-1408 satellite, aka "Celina-D", according to NASA data as of November 16, 2021, is about 650 km. The difference in height is 200 km!

          "Duck" about 465-490 km was thrown by an amateur astronomer on Facebook, was picked up in Houston ...

          The worst thing that can happen, the debris will prevent Musk, Bezos and others promising to deploy 50000 satellites at these altitudes. Another 1-2 years and the first will begin to collapse, performing Kessler's syndrome. And humanity will never get to the moon. And who will be to blame for this ...

          https://argumenti.ru/zharkoye_iz_blogov/2021/11/747241
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 18 November 2021 10: 01
            -3
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            In fact, the altitude of the satellite trajectory ...

            In fact, it is easier to shoot down a satellite moving in a circular orbit than an aircraft capable of flying at altitudes of 200-750 km, quickly changing orbits and maneuvering.
            1. Maikcg
              Maikcg 18 November 2021 14: 24
              +6
              This "plane" in orbit is no different from a satellite. And "quick maneuvering" takes hours in time and that, basically, in orbit altitude, which the satellite can do. For active maneuvering as in Star Wars, traditional chemical rockets lack kerogas.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 19 November 2021 10: 02
                -1
                Quote: MaikCG
                For active maneuvering as in Star Wars, traditional chemical rockets lack kerogas.

                Why are such profound conclusions on only one side of the problem? Do you think (I suppose) that "Nudols" will be "smacked" like from MLRS? Fuck there. Near-earth space is not a pure field from edge to edge, where the mother of cheese, the earth, will bury everything.
                1. Maikcg
                  Maikcg 20 November 2021 02: 43
                  0
                  Conclusions based on ordinary celestial mechanics.
          2. military_cat
            military_cat 18 November 2021 10: 39
            +5
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            "Duck" about 465-490 km was thrown by an amateur astronomer on Facebook, was picked up in Houston.

            No, this is data from NORAD, which monitors the orbit in real time. They can be rechecked even now, "NORAD ID 13552" in Google.

            "Duck" about 650 km was thrown by Konanykhin on his YouTube channel, which, instead of knowingly relevant data, referred to data from the NSSDCA archive of unknown age.

            Target altitude <500 km was also confirmed by the RF Ministry of Defense when they stated that the orbit of the debris passes at a distance about 40 km above the ISS orbit.

            1. Overlock
              Overlock 18 November 2021 13: 05
              +5
              Quote: military_cat
              Target height <500 km was confirmed by the RF Ministry of Defense.

              485 km
          3. Cosm22
            Cosm22 18 November 2021 11: 49
            -12
            OrangeBigg, why is that? Such ridiculous stuff?
            There are people on the resource who are more or less familiar with space issues.
            Who know that NORAD exists.
            That there is a SKKP in Russia.
            That there are special catalogs of SOs with their parameters, orbital heights, orbital inclinations. In which all spacecraft maneuvers are tracked, their deorbiting.
            That is why I emphasized, when during the day the RF Ministry of Defense played in silence, feverishly choosing a line of conduct and agreeing on the text of the statement, that it would not be possible to conceal this reckless test.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 18 November 2021 15: 02
              +3
              You claim that:
              Quote: Cosm22
              familiar with space issues whiter or less well.

              And after that you write that:
              Quote: Cosm22
              this reckless ordeal cannot be concealed.

              Nobody was going to hide anything. Demonstratively shot down. bully

              Dumb phrase:
              reckless trial
              did you come up with it yourself, or are you quoting the State Department and the Pentagon? lol
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 18 November 2021 20: 22
                +2
                Quote: Alex777
                Nobody was going to hide anything. Demonstratively shot down. bully
                Dumb phrase:
                reckless trial
                did you come up with it yourself, or are you quoting the State Department and the Pentagon? lol

                Eh, do you remember there were times when you worried about the clutter of the orbit with debris after the Indian test? There was even a dialogue like this:

                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 18 November 2021 21: 44
                  0
                  I already noticed that you are a fan of the history of posts to climb.
                  And I'm not the first person you tried to surprise. So what?
                  You managed to show that:
                  1. I did not resent the Indian trials.
                  2. The phrase "Doubt - you need to be able to.wink"I can repeat it to you now.
                  3. With your campaigns, I understand everything with you. You work with a spark. hi
                  1. military_cat
                    military_cat 18 November 2021 21: 55
                    +2
                    No, I just re-read the materials on missile defense and ASAT systems (there was a reason, so to speak), and I find that there were comments in which I predicted something in the future, it’s interesting.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 18 November 2021 22: 11
                      -1
                      Russian?
                      1. military_cat
                        military_cat 18 November 2021 22: 18
                        +4
                        Yes. However, I understand that you have already determined that I am a paid employee of the information special operations forces of a potential enemy. I do not set myself the task of trying to dissuade you.
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 18 November 2021 22: 18
                        0
                        I find that there were comments in which I predicted something in the future, it’s interesting.

                        Sometimes you can make a mistake and be glad about it.
                        Wonderful non-brothers have long tired of persistence.
                      3. Alex777
                        Alex777 19 November 2021 16: 51
                        0
                        Judging by the minuses, you did not understand that I wrote about my joy from discovering my mistake. wink
                      4. military_cat
                        military_cat 19 November 2021 18: 58
                        +2
                        I didn’t minus you (and I don’t like it myself when I talk to someone, but they minus him - because then he thinks that it was me.) I corrected it to the best of my ability.
                      5. Alex777
                        Alex777 19 November 2021 18: 59
                        0
                        Quote: military_cat
                        Corrected to the best of his ability.

                        drinks
            2. Dmitry V.
              Dmitry V. 18 November 2021 15: 55
              +3
              Quote: Cosm22
              Well, why is it? Such ridiculous stuff?
              There are people on the resource who are more or less familiar with space issues.
              Who know that NORAD exists.
              That there is a SKKP in Russia.

              Well, maybe Konanykhin does not know that NORAD data on some satellites is publicly available.
              https://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=13552
          4. Dmitry V.
            Dmitry V. 18 November 2021 16: 00
            +1
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            ISS height 430 km. As soon as the satellite was destroyed, the Americans dropped a duck that Kosmos-1408 was at an altitude of 450 km. In fact, the altitude of the trajectory of the Kosmos-1408 satellite, aka "Celina-D", according to NASA data as of November 16, 2021, is about 650 km. The difference in height is 200 km!

            https://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=13552
            According to NORAD
            COSMOS 1408
            Track COSMOS 1408 now!
            10-day predictions
            COSMOS 1408 is classified as: Tselina
            NORAD ID: 13552
            Int'l Code: 1982-092A
            Perigee: 472.0 km
            Apogee: 497.5 km
            where is there 650 km?
        2. bk316
          bk316 18 November 2021 18: 34
          +4
          The aircraft is designed to operate at altitudes of 200-750 km, and is capable of rapidly changing orbits and maneuvering.


          Wiki lovers
          Airplane - an aircraft heavier than air, designed for flight in the atmosphere with the help of a propulsion system that creates thrust and is stationary relative to other parts of the apparatus lift wing

          Aircraft do not fly at altitudes of 750 km. There will be no lift. wassat
          So it's just a spaceship and its maneuvering to the order of the lander. For a rocket moving from the first space rocket, this is the same as non-maneuvering.
      2. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 18 November 2021 10: 29
        -3
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        A threat to American domination in Space has emerged, and there is a hysteria among the exceptional.

        The orbit of the debris field is only a few tens of kilometers above the orbit of the ISS, the scattering of debris from the downed satellite is tens of kilometers, and the longer, the greater the scatter of the debris in orbit.
        And this really poses a danger to the ISS over time, since small (light) fragments of a downed satellite will be more actively decelerated than a solid massive satellite) and will reduce speed faster (go to a lower orbit).
        At one time, the USSR was responsible for testing anti-satellite weapons (a total of 19 interceptor spacecraft were launched, of which 11 were recognized as successful, the IS-1 Satellite Fighter, equipped with a radar homing head, capable of intercepting space targets to hit them at altitudes of 100 km to 1350 km - the IS-1 was attacked from a two-turn maneuver to reach the target, with some excess of the target's orbit, the explosion impulse threw the debris into lower orbits so that the debris would enter the dense layers of the atmosphere faster.


        NASA's concern is fair enough.
        1. slipped
          slipped 18 November 2021 11: 27
          -1
          Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
          NASA's concern is fair enough.


          By the time the debris descends 40 km, the ISS will no longer be in this orbit. In the case of a faster de-orbiting of space debris, the ISS can be lowered by the same 40 km lower, and the orbit reduction was planned before the flooding of the station, the ISS itself is today designed for flight until 2025.

          Axiom may have problems with their private commercial station, which is planned for the initial assembly of modules at the ISS AS. In their case, they would have to lower their orbit even further.
          1. Dmitry V.
            Dmitry V. 18 November 2021 11: 47
            -3
            Quote: slipped
            By the time the debris descends 40 km, the ISS will no longer be in this orbit. V

            The debris will sink within a year. The ISS orbit is regularly raised - that is, within a year and a half, the risk of collision will grow to significant.
            1. loki565
              loki565 18 November 2021 12: 30
              0
              The ISS orbit is regularly lifted

              Probably because it constantly slows down and decreases, so it is compensated by periodic acceleration.
          2. Cosm22
            Cosm22 18 November 2021 12: 01
            -15
            slipped, calculations to the studio, please. By the behavior of the cloud.
            Who has already done these calculations? When? Where? Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? Per day? Before even cataloging the resulting debris?
            Then it's MO, but just a wizard. He should be pulling rabbits out of his hat.
            There is no data yet on the behavior of the fragments and the cloud as a whole. And it can't be. Therefore, it is impossible to build any hypotheses today. And scattering statements like "By the time the debris descends 40 km, the ISS will no longer be in this orbit" is incorrect. There are no grounds for this yet.
            Let's wait at least for preliminary values ​​and forecasts from NORAD.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 18 November 2021 13: 04
              +4
              Quote: Cosm22
              There is no data yet on the behavior of the fragments and the cloud as a whole.

              A cloud of 1.5 thousand debris was recorded at altitudes of 440-520 km, since the explosion was at an altitude of 485 km. The cloud tends to decrease
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 18 November 2021 17: 12
                -1
                This is already common knowledge.
                It's about something else.
                It is impossible to make any predictions at a given moment without data on the precise scatter of the fragments, changes in their orbits, velocities, and expansion dynamics.
            2. slipped
              slipped 18 November 2021 16: 01
              +1
              Quote: Cosm22
              Let's wait at least for preliminary values ​​and forecasts from NORAD.


              What for? You wait four years and you will see everything yourself.
              1. Cosm22
                Cosm22 18 November 2021 17: 15
                0
                Those. you yourself don’t want to wait four years. But are you making categorical statements today?
                And on what basis, let me ask you?
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 18 November 2021 15: 36
            -1
            Quote: slipped
            the ISS will no longer be in this orbit.

            will she drown?
            1. slipped
              slipped 18 November 2021 16: 02
              +2
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: slipped
              the ISS will no longer be in this orbit.

              will she drown?


              According to the plan, they should be de-orbited after 2025. The Americans really want to operate it even until 2030, but I'm afraid their Wishlist will run into reality - the aging of the station modules. In any case, everything will be decided in 2024.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 20 November 2021 12: 01
                +1
                Why then was the Science module added to the ISS? For 4 years of work?
                1. slipped
                  slipped 20 November 2021 18: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Why then was the Science module added to the ISS? For 4 years of work?


                  Until the end of the remaining ISS time. Many interesting works are planned in Science, including technological ones, on the further development of our space technology.
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 18 November 2021 14: 54
          +2
          Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
          NASA's concern is fair enough.

          Do we have plans for cooperation after 2024? bully
      3. Lykases1
        Lykases1 18 November 2021 10: 51
        -8
        Nonsense. A massive blow cannot be repulsed. Will just hit a few waves from different directions
      4. Overlock
        Overlock 18 November 2021 13: 06
        -2
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        A threat to American domination in Space has emerged, and there is a hysteria among the exceptional.

        Are the Chinese friends already? Does Erdogan's example teach you nothing?
      5. Alex777
        Alex777 18 November 2021 14: 53
        +2
        I would venture to suggest that the "secret" paths of the secret X-37V spaceplanes turned out to be in the wreckage. Nobody was going to "frighten" the ISS.
        We calculated what specifically the States are very interested in on our territory and blocked possible flight paths in such a cynical way. bully
    3. knn54
      knn54 18 November 2021 09: 49
      0
      The most "unpleasant" for the Yankes is the disabling of the satellite navigation system GPS. That will make it much more difficult to conduct hostilities (and not only) and throw the United States back in the 70s of the 20th century.
      1. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 18 November 2021 10: 47
        -8
        Quote: knn54
        The most "unpleasant" for the Yankes is the destruction of the GPS satellite navigation system


        Don't write nonsense - GPS satellites occupy orbits with heights of more than 20000 km - there are no such satellites, interceptors that could hit targets in such high orbits.
        IS-1 could shoot satellites in low-altitude and medium-altitude orbits 250-1350 km.

        The constellations of navigation satellites are disabled by other methods.
        1. lucul
          lucul 18 November 2021 11: 11
          -1
          Don't write nonsense - GPS satellites occupy orbits with heights of more than 20000 km - there are no such satellites, interceptors that could hit targets in such high orbits

          It used to be that way. The first satellite was launched into orbit by a rocket with a launch mass of 267 tons. And now, Nudol is throwing a load into orbit from a wheeled chassis !!! That is, in fact, the mass of the rocket is 40 tons and 500 km (minimum) in height. Therefore, 20 km, on which GPS satellites fly, do not look so unattainable for our new stationary missile defense missiles. Especially with the possibility of creating "garbage" on the trajectory of these GPS satellites.
          1. Dmitry V.
            Dmitry V. 18 November 2021 12: 20
            -4
            Quote: lucul
            Therefore, 20 km, on which GPS satellites fly, do not look so unattainable for our new stationary missile defense missiles. Especially with the possibility of creating "garbage" on the trajectory of these GPS satellites.

            This is not serious, there are many times cheaper ways to neutralize GPS globally.
        2. knn54
          knn54 18 November 2021 11: 15
          +1
          DV, and WHERE did I write that it was EXACTLY to shoot down the satellites with a rocket?
          And I will add about the shuttle.
          -SUE it is not controlled when it is on the opposite side of the Earth from the territory of the Russian Federation,
          -Reduction to the mesosphere, volley and "back". The Yankees' long-standing dream is to end the Russian Federation with a nuclear salvo from space, and they already have five or six shuttles.
          An experiment in 1986 (when the Columbia STS-61-C orbital spacecraft flew) to study the behavior of the orbital's heat-shielding layer in dense layers of the atmosphere and the operation of the capillary cooling system showed that this is possible. And there will be enough energy for a couple of such "jumps" ...
          The operation will take a few minutes, but the missile defense system cannot react during this time YET.
          Therefore, we need satellites-inspectors, and satellites-kamikaze.
          Effective plasma / laser weapons in orbit will not even appear tomorrow.
          1. SSR
            SSR 20 November 2021 16: 35
            0
            Quote: knn54
            Lands from the territory of the Russian Federation,
            -Reduction to the mesosphere, volley and "back". The Yankees' long-standing dream is to end the Russian Federation with a nuclear salvo from space, and they already have five or six shuttles.

            When I wrote about a possible first strike, I got some cons))))

            If, this is a hypothetical satellite, strikes first, then there will be victims on the ground, and we will destroy the empty carrier with return fire.
            The exchange is completely ambiguous.
            The attacker will be one step ahead.

            Someone is actively covering up the idea that the Americans, since the creation of the atomic bomb, have been dreaming of the first, decapitating strike.
            The same drop shot in a new version.
    4. lucul
      lucul 18 November 2021 11: 16
      0
      And the dogs - let them bark

      Well, like this ))))
      The comments clearly show the division into "ours", who defend the interests of Russia, and agents who, foaming at the mouth, defend the interests of the owner and "burn" beyond measure. )))
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 18 November 2021 12: 25
        -7
        Let me be curious, is it in Russia's interests to create a threat to the lives of Russian citizens on the ISS crew? And for the rest of its members?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 18 November 2021 15: 38
          -2
          Quote: Cosm22
          Let me be curious, is it in Russia's interests to create a threat to the lives of Russian citizens on the ISS crew? And for the rest of its members?

          This is called "hitting Voronezh"
      2. loki565
        loki565 18 November 2021 12: 34
        0
        Well, like this ))))
        The comments clearly show the division into "ours", who defend the interests of Russia, and agents who, foaming at the mouth, defend the interests of the owner and "burn" beyond measure. )))

        Yes, they suddenly became sofa space experts)))
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 18 November 2021 13: 34
          +4
          Quote: loki565
          Yes, they suddenly became sofa space experts)))

          Where is the surprise? Those who are usually interested in space in the comments write about it.
          1. loki565
            loki565 18 November 2021 13: 36
            -1
            Well, if you look at the history of comments, slipped is really interested in space, and a couple more people
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 18 November 2021 14: 13
              +4
              I rewound it for a year, read how slipped says that the elements of the Yenisei super-heavy rocket are already being tested, I felt nostalgic, thank you.
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 18 November 2021 13: 01
        0
        Quote: lucul
        The comments clearly show the division into “ours,” who defend the interests of Russia, and agents who, foaming at the mouth, defend the interests of the owner and “burn” beyond measure.

        Study the materiel for your deep analysis. The existence of our ISS has been threatened due to a new batch of debris, all launched satellites, as a rule, are brought up to the heights of the newly formed debris
  2. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 18 November 2021 09: 03
    +7
    To put it in plain language: "they put a horse-radish to the nose". good
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 18 November 2021 09: 11
      -2
      "I can shoot down your X-37B spacecraft if necessary."
      And let them pray that this need does not arise! sad
  3. taiga2018
    taiga2018 18 November 2021 09: 07
    +9
    Now all this screeching from the "exceptional" is understandable, this is their "concern" for the safety of the ISS ...
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 59
      +3
      Quote: taiga2018
      Now all this screeching from the "exceptional" is understandable, this is their "concern" for the safety of the ISS ...

      By the way, the ISS is our
  4. svp67
    svp67 18 November 2021 09: 07
    +4
    The United States is most afraid of this test precisely because its secret space interceptor X-37B is located exactly at this orbital altitude, where Russia also demonstratively shot down an old Soviet satellite.
    having very similar dimensions ... wink... And if you consider that this satellite was, at one time produced in Ukraine ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 18 November 2021 09: 11
      -2
      Quote: svp67
      The United States is most afraid of this test precisely because its secret space interceptor X-37B is located exactly at this orbital altitude, where Russia also demonstratively shot down an old Soviet satellite.
      having very similar dimensions ... wink... And if you consider that this satellite was, at one time produced in Ukraine ...

      Is the X-37B moving in a standard orbit that can be calculated in advance? As far as I know, he can regularly change the trajectory of the flight.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 18 November 2021 09: 19
        -8
        It is logical. The conditions are different, and it is doubtful that the United States was scared for the X-37b, or even scared at all.
        1. svp67
          svp67 18 November 2021 09: 38
          +5
          Quote: Kronos
          And it is doubtful that the United States was scared for the X-37b, or even scared at all.

          Yeah, then they'll be so hysterical about this ... no, it's certainly not from fright, it's just that ...
      2. Avior
        Avior 18 November 2021 09: 20
        -6
        just like that, this is its peculiarity.
      3. svp67
        svp67 18 November 2021 09: 35
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Is the X-37B moving in a standard orbit that can be calculated in advance? As far as I know, he can regularly change the trajectory of the flight.

        And who said that the "anti-missile" is not capable of maneuvering? Well, not everything can be laid out right away.
        And even a well-known target at an altitude of 500 km above the Earth is very difficult to hit. How many have succeeded?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 18 November 2021 10: 03
          -5
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Is the X-37B moving in a standard orbit that can be calculated in advance? As far as I know, he can regularly change the trajectory of the flight.

          And who said that the "anti-missile" is not capable of maneuvering? Well, not everything can be laid out right away.
          And even a well-known target at an altitude of 500 km above the Earth is very difficult to hit. How many have succeeded?

          Well, not many of course. But after all, both the Russian Federation and its colleagues in the anti-satellite club prepared for a long time and carefully, chose a target, calculated the best position and time. But getting a rocket into a space target that changes its orbit every 2-3 hours is not trivial. I don't know if anyone in the world can do this.
          1. svp67
            svp67 18 November 2021 10: 14
            +4
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            But getting a rocket into a space target that changes its orbit every 2-3 hours is not trivial. I don't know if anyone in the world can do this.

            Indeed, it is not trivial ... now I understand why the Americans were so worried that our small satellites-inspectors are capable of maneuvering
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 18 November 2021 11: 32
              +4
              Absolutely.
          2. dzvero
            dzvero 18 November 2021 10: 46
            +9
            The orbit change itself is not so fast - from two to ten orbits. To "calculate" a maneuver against the background of the predictable trajectories of the remaining satellites requires only sufficient computing power. If the response time of the missile defense system is less than the "radio visibility window" (the missile arrival time is indeed less than ten minutes plus ten minutes to determine the current trajectory), then the object is not able to evade.
          3. Disant
            Disant 18 November 2021 11: 22
            +3
            But getting a rocket into a space target that changes its orbit every 2-3 hours is not trivial. I don't know if anyone in the world can do this.

            so freight Progress is already through the satellite system, around the clock dock to the ISS without the participation of the main and backup docking systems.
            so someone can
      4. lucul
        lucul 18 November 2021 11: 01
        +2
        Is the X-37B moving in a standard orbit that can be calculated in advance? As far as I know, he can regularly change the trajectory of the flight.

        If it often changes its trajectory, it will very quickly deplete its fuel supply, and secondly, where are the guarantees that Nudol cannot change its trajectory either? ))))
        1. svp67
          svp67 18 November 2021 11: 46
          +1
          Quote: lucul
          where are the guarantees that Nudol also cannot change its trajectory

          Who even said that it was "Nudol"? The Presidency, before that, mentioned the start of work on the S-550, it is quite possible that this rocket for this complex
  5. Bradley
    Bradley 18 November 2021 09: 08
    -13
    It is one thing to shoot down a satellite that is flying in a known orbit, but quite another if the device can change its trajectory and orbit.
    1. Cron
      Cron 18 November 2021 09: 18
      -2
      Quote: Bradley
      but it is completely different if the spacecraft can change its trajectory and orbit.

      I agree, then the Americans start to have big problems. What's on earth, what's in space
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 18 November 2021 09: 31
      +14
      Quote: Bradley
      It is one thing to shoot down a satellite that is flying in a known orbit, but quite another if the device can change its trajectory and orbit.

      Any active satellite that has not used up its fuel supply for orbit correction can change its trajectory and orbit. The space "plane" can, of course, also maneuver. But not as long as you like and hardly with high accelerations, and our rocket will aim where it needs to go, it does not need to save fuel
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 18 November 2021 11: 35
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Quote: Bradley
        It is one thing to shoot down a satellite that is flying in a known orbit, but quite another if the device can change its trajectory and orbit.

        Any active satellite that has not used up its fuel supply for orbit correction can change its trajectory and orbit. The space "plane" can, of course, also maneuver. But not as long as you like and hardly with high accelerations, and our rocket will aim where it needs to go, it does not need to save fuel

        The question is how long does it take from Nudoli to overcome the selected distance. And then we do not yet know to what extent the missile defense missile is aimed at maneuvering.
    3. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx 18 November 2021 09: 32
      +5
      Harder than an ICBM warhead? And this problem has already been solved ...
    4. BARKAS
      BARKAS 18 November 2021 09: 46
      +10
      but it is completely different if the spacecraft can change its trajectory and orbit.

      This is if you have time to constantly maneuver, no fuel is enough.
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 18 November 2021 10: 35
      +4
      Quote: Bradley
      It is one thing to shoot down a satellite that is flying in a known orbit, but quite another if the device can change its trajectory and orbit.

      So after all, no one says that all efforts will be focused on this particular apparatus. This X-37B is just one of the likely targets.
      The mattresses have about 2 thousand satellites dangling there, of which, in addition to meteorological satellites, many provide communication, navigation, etc.
    6. loki565
      loki565 18 November 2021 12: 38
      +2
      It is one thing to shoot down a satellite that is flying in a known orbit, but quite another if the device can change its trajectory and orbit.

      Maybe, but not quickly, it will take several hours and will remain in the predicted square, more precisely in the cube)))
  6. Oleg1263
    Oleg1263 18 November 2021 09: 12
    +2
    But the debris is not on the orbital trajectory of the International Space Station (they appeared about 60 km lower)

    Here all the time it was said that the debris falling would pose a threat to the ISS. Now it turns out that they are already below the station's orbit. Or is it translation difficulties? Can anyone clarify?
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 November 2021 09: 24
      -6
      But the debris is not on the orbital trajectory of the International Space Station (they appeared about 60 km lower)

      the author wrote clumsily and erroneously. The station's orbit is 40-60 km below the orbit of the downed satellite.
      But the debris flew into different orbits. Here's something like this on the example of the collision of satellites Space and Iridium - the situation in 20 minutes.

      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 56
        -3
        Quote: Avior
        the author wrote clumsily and erroneously.

        I lied. But ours in the heat of patriotic intoxication do not care
  7. Cron
    Cron 18 November 2021 09: 12
    -6
    In order not to reveal the real reason for these emotions, the United States declared about the danger of the debris formed in orbit for the ISS.

    Something from this area:
  8. Sankiny
    Sankiny 18 November 2021 09: 16
    +4
    So that's where the dog rummaged! I could not understand the reason for the information noise. When X-37B changes its orbit (due to debris), an "unnecessary" satellite must be found in its new orbit.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 18 November 2021 10: 08
      +1
      Are you proposing to litter all possible orbits of the X-37?
      1. Sankiny
        Sankiny 18 November 2021 14: 08
        -1
        Not all, but only in the "tank-hazardous direction", remember the summer of 1914, Donbass, the MH-17 disaster, and above 700 km - let it spin.
  9. Avior
    Avior 18 November 2021 09: 18
    -1
    The Chinese author writes that for some reason the Pentagon did not have any special claims to India, which also tested anti-satellite weapons and as a result of which debris also appeared in orbit.

    The Chinese is disingenuous. The Indians shot down a satellite at an altitude of 280 km, most of the debris left orbit and burned up in the Earth's atmosphere in a matter of weeks.
    In this case, most of the debris will hang out in space for decades.
    1. Vikxnumx
      Vikxnumx 18 November 2021 09: 33
      -2
      In this case, most of the debris will hang out in space for decades.

      Not the first and not the last garbage in space
      1. Avior
        Avior 18 November 2021 09: 50
        -1
        350-500 km is a specific orbit for manned spacecraft. Below 250-300 km, the spacecraft is noticeably decelerated and requires either a constant correction of the orbit, and these are large expenses, or it will drop relatively quickly, if the orbit is not corrected, higher is too strong radiation for a long stay of a person
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 53
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          350-500 km

          Our ISS is at an altitude of 400 km, the Chinese one is 425 km. The debris cloud is now at an altitude of 440-520 km. 1500 wreckage was taken for escort. Over time, the cloud will descend to the flight altitudes of manned stations, including ours. What for?
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 54
        -4
        Quote: VIK1711
        Not the first and not the last garbage in space

        The USSR and the Russian Federation account for half of this garbage. The more you run, the more you litter.
    2. Cottodraton
      Cottodraton 18 November 2021 09: 36
      0
      Where does this information come from?
    3. Overlock
      Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 55
      0
      Quote: Avior
      In this case, most of the debris will hang out in space for decades.

      Just at the altitudes of the ISS flight
  10. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 18 November 2021 09: 24
    0
    China's Sokhu acts almost like a Russian news channel, though mostly only with inflammatory messages about us against the United States.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 50
      +1
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      China's Sokhu acts almost like a Russian news channel, though mostly only with inflammatory messages about us against the United States.

      Absolutely right. Somehow they did not mention that they themselves shot down their satellite already in 2017 at an altitude of 865 km.
      1. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 18 November 2021 15: 04
        0
        Quote: Overlock
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        China's Sokhu acts almost like a Russian news channel, though mostly only with inflammatory messages about us against the United States.

        Absolutely right. Somehow they did not mention that they themselves shot down their satellite already in 2017 at an altitude of 865 km.

        So they shot down in 2007, and the United States responded in 2008.
  11. teptyar
    teptyar 18 November 2021 09: 27
    -15
    why were you shot down? what did they prove to whom? just a noise effect. The satellite moves quietly in orbit, it is not difficult to shoot it down.
    1. Sankiny
      Sankiny 18 November 2021 09: 33
      +8
      A war on earth will begin with a war in space.
      1. teptyar
        teptyar 18 November 2021 11: 33
        -10
        What is it? where is it from? Do you know many such wars in history?
    2. Runner2022
      Runner2022 18 November 2021 09: 50
      +1
      Proved that the Russian military-industrial complex has the most advanced technologies, let them know
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 18 November 2021 10: 59
        -6
        Quote: Runner2022
        Proved that the Russian military-industrial complex has the most advanced technologies, let them know

        Only India spoiled the picture a little, having carried out a similar test two years earlier.
        1. slipped
          slipped 18 November 2021 11: 31
          +5
          Quote: military_cat
          Only India spoiled the picture a little, having carried out a similar test two years earlier.


          Various types of ILV. Ours are more technologically advanced.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 18 November 2021 11: 37
            -3
            What is this comparison based on?
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 49
          -1
          Quote: military_cat
          Only India spoiled the picture a little, having carried out a similar test two years earlier.

          And the USA in 1985? And China in 2017?
        3. MMX
          MMX 18 November 2021 18: 02
          +2
          Quote: military_cat
          Quote: Runner2022
          Proved that the Russian military-industrial complex has the most advanced technologies, let them know

          Only India spoiled the picture a little, having carried out a similar test two years earlier.


          And what was the test carried out by India 2 years earlier, spoiled our current tests ??? Because of this, we could not shoot down the satellite?
  12. cniza
    cniza 18 November 2021 09: 30
    +6
    Russia by testing anti-satellite weapons showed the United States that it is capable of shooting down their secret space interceptor X-37B


    Hence the howl to the entire universe ...
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 48
      -2
      Quote: cniza
      Hence the howl to the entire universe ...

      Howl because a cloud of new space debris at the heights of finding all international orbital stations and the launch of new satellites of any country is in question.
  13. Runner2022
    Runner2022 18 November 2021 09: 45
    +2
    The achievements of our military-industrial complex are very encouraging. Bravo to all scientists and designers.
  14. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 November 2021 09: 47
    +3
    The Chinese author writes that for some reason the Pentagon did not have any special claims to India, which also tested anti-satellite weapons and as a result of which debris also appeared in orbit.

    Oh, those Chinese authors ... India buys American weapons, Russia doesn't.
    The militarization of outer space will not do good. In addition, in our particular case, the Americans were given a signal that not all "unknown purpose spacecraft" are equally useful for all countries.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 47
      +3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Oh, those Chinese authors ...

      They are simply pushing their heads against Russia and the United States. Divide and rule.
  15. Arctic
    Arctic 18 November 2021 10: 48
    +2
    I think that this fact is an insistent invitation to the Americans to negotiate on the demilitarization of outer space. With a visual explanation, so to speak, for the gifted :)
  16. observer76
    observer76 18 November 2021 12: 24
    -2
    Well, knocking down the X-37 is perhaps even a cooler task than knocking down the Vanguard on the glide path. So the opinion about concern for the X-37 smells strongly of proclamation stuffing.
  17. Overlock
    Overlock 18 November 2021 12: 46
    +2
    The Chinese have thrown a dummy, and we are happy. On September 16, we shot down our satellite at an altitude of 485 km. The orbit in which the ISS and the Chinese station fly is 400-405 and 425 km, respectively. As a result of the detonation, a debris cloud was formed at altitudes of 440-520 km. A day later, our cosmonauts twice corrected the trajectory due to the likelihood of collision with the debris of the downed satellite.
    At the same time, the Chinese are modestly silent that in 2017 they performed a similar test, shooting down their satellite at an altitude of 865 km.
    1. bee808
      bee808 21 November 2021 02: 37
      0
      The Chinese have thrown a dummy, and we are happy.

      Not a dummy, but the real reason for the screams of the States. The Germans, for example, simply expressed concern on duty.
      As a result of the detonation, a debris cloud was formed at altitudes of 440-520 km. A day later, our cosmonauts twice corrected the trajectory due to the likelihood of collision with the debris of the downed satellite.

      First, there was no correction. Because of the stress, NASA simply closed the airlocks between the modules and boarded the spacecraft just in case. On the third orbit (~ 4,5 hours later) NASA let go and everything was over. Secondly, besides the altitude, my dear, there is also the inclination of the orbit. Take the trouble to watch the video from the Ministry of Defense. And if "on the fingers", then it's like the chances of colliding with you, if we go to the same intersection on different streets, at different times.
      At the same time, the Chinese are modestly silent that in 2017 they performed a similar test, shooting down their satellite at an altitude of 865 km.

      Not in 2017, but in 2007. And the USA did the same in 2008. And before that, in 1985. By the way, the last debris after the test of the States in 1985 fell to Earth only in 2008.
      ----
      And "icing on the cake": while the debris continues to decline, the ISS will turn into dust from old age.
  18. Tektor
    Tektor 18 November 2021 14: 49
    +4
    Ours just showed how they can screw up all the orbits for American satellites. This is where the buckets of nails - the old satellites - come in.
    1. Asad
      Asad 19 November 2021 08: 49
      +1
      Where are we going to fly?
    2. bee808
      bee808 21 November 2021 03: 12
      0
      Just shooting down American satellites is not a tricky business, it can be done with the help of the S-500 in batches. The beauty is that the defeat was kinetic intercept and in orbit with the X-37B.