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"Nudol" versus "Virgin". Tests of the Russian anti-satellite complex

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The first known image of the Nudol launcher


On November 15, tests of a promising domestic anti-satellite complex with firing at a real orbital target took place. There is still little official information about this event, and most of the available information is speculative. Nevertheless, in this case, the tests attracted attention, and also once again became a reason for criticism from third countries.

Latest news


The first reports of the tests appeared on November 15 in the American press. Referring to the US Space Force, various publications wrote that Russia had tested a certain anti-satellite missile system, during which it attacked an old and out of order satellite. The direct intercept munition successfully hit the target, as a result of which a certain amount of debris was formed in orbit.

Soon, an official statement by the US State Department was released, in which the tests were called reckless and destructive. The State Department claims that as a result of the interception of the satellite in orbit, more than 1500 debris were formed, which in the future could crumble into hundreds of thousands of smaller fragments. All of this is said to pose a danger to space projects of all countries. In addition, the United States did not forget to accuse Russia of intending to militarize space.

Official information appeared the next day, November 16. The Russian Defense Ministry reported on the successful defeat of the orbital target, which was the inoperative Celina-D satellite, which had flown since 1982. The agency confirmed that a certain amount of debris had formed when the device was hit. They still remain in orbit, but do not pose a threat to the ISS or active satellites. In this case, all the fragments are taken for accompaniment and will be tracked until they cease to exist.

"Nudol" versus "Virgin". Tests of the Russian anti-satellite complex

Then the latest events were commented on by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. His message indicates that the tests were carried out as part of the planned activities of the armed forces. They fully comply with all international agreements and norms and are not directed against any country. In addition, the Foreign Ministry reminds that the Russian defense doctrine does not provide for the achievement of military superiority in outer space, in contrast to the corresponding documents of the United States. In this regard, it is proposed to start developing new agreements on limiting the arms race in outer space.

Technical aspects


The Russian Ministry of Defense does not specify the details of the recent tests, and the foreign press is trying to do it for him. From foreign data, it follows that on November 15, the next tests of the promising anti-space defense complex "Nudol", also known as 14Ts033, took place.

From 2014 to 2020, American government agencies and the media reported on nine test launches of this complex. The recent shootings were already the tenth in the overall series of tests and the first this year. At the same time, for the first time, the launch was carried out not at a calculated point in space, but at a real target - due to which the test launch was as similar as possible to real combat use.

It is believed that to intercept orbital targets, the Nudol complex should use a specially designed missile with a combat stage in the form of a homing kinetic interceptor. The missiles are transported on a self-propelled launcher. The complex operates under the control of its own command-computing center and can receive its own target detection equipment.


Trajectory of the satellite "Kosmos-1408" (red-orange line) and areas closed for the duration of the tests (marked in blue)

As reported, the target for the anti-satellite missile of the new type was the apparatus "Kosmos-1408". It was an 11F619 Tselina-D electronic reconnaissance satellite, launched back in September 1982. For several years, it collected data on the activities of a potential enemy, but then it ran out of service, turned off and has been inactive until now. According to various sources, recently "Cosmos-1408" was in orbit up to 500-550 km high.

Thus, recent tests have shown the ability of the new domestic complex to solve rather complex combat missions. He, with the help of his own or third-party means, found and escorted a target at a considerable height, after which he launched an interceptor missile. The latter successfully entered the meeting area with a target, aimed at it and struck, probably with a direct hit.

Particularly important development


Increased attention to the latter news quite understandable. A promising anti-satellite complex is of great importance for our defense, and in addition, it is capable of confusing the plans of a potential adversary. It is important that the Ministry of Defense is now openly talking about the presence of such a sample and about its testing. Previously, such news came only from abroad, and their veracity could be in doubt.

The performance characteristics of the new complex have not yet been disclosed. However, the known features of the latest tests allow us to draw some conclusions and assumptions. So, the complex is made mobile, and the launcher can be quickly transferred to a given area. Also shown is the fundamental possibility of hitting an orbital target at altitudes of approx. 500-550 km. At the same time, it cannot be ruled out that in the latest firing, far from the full potential of the interceptor missile was used.


General view of the satellite "Celina-D"

At least a significant part of the military satellites of a potential enemy falls into the zone of destruction of the Nudol complex. For example, the American KH-11 series vehicles are in orbits from 260 to 1000 km and could theoretically be hit by a new Russian missile. The mobile version of the complex, in turn, will allow the launch at the right time and from the optimal area.

The resulting complex, as the Foreign Ministry justly notes, does not violate international agreements on weapons in outer space. The interception of an orbital target is carried out by a ground-based missile and without the deployment of any combat assets in space. At the same time, the complex is able to help comply with agreements, because hypothetical armed satellites are also among its potential targets.

First in the world


The Nudol anti-satellite missile system has been undergoing tests over the past several years, and has now reached the point of firing at a real target in orbit. In addition, the Ministry of Defense no longer hides the existence of this project and the testing.

All this shows a high level of readiness of the project and may indicate that in the near future the new complex will be put into service. Accordingly, in the next few years, our air and missile defense system will receive fundamentally new combat capabilities and all the attendant advantages.

It should be noted that similar anti-satellite systems already exist abroad, which have been tested by real shooting. In 2007-2008. China and the United States tested their missiles, and in 2019 similar tests took place in India. However, new tests of Chinese, American and Indian missiles have not been carried out, and the current status of these projects is unknown. At the same time, the situation around the Russian complex is gradually clearing up, and in an exclusively positive way.
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  1. Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 18 November 2021 06: 15
    -2
    Very good news. But in order to really disrupt the work of the huge orbital grouping of the United States and his henchmen, a massive saturation of the Aerospace Forces with such complexes is needed, which is not fast. Yes, and there is infa that the complex uses external target designation. Which is not very good. So we have to keep moving in the right direction!
    1. Deck
      Deck 18 November 2021 06: 23
      +2
      MOSCOW, November 16. / TASS /. Instead of making unfounded accusations against Russia about testing weapons in space, the United States should sit down at the negotiating table and discuss its concerns in this area. This was stated on Tuesday at a press conference by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.


      Did you also join the unfounded accusations of Russia? laughing
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 18 November 2021 06: 39
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        ... The Russian Defense Ministry did not elaborate on the details of the recent tests, and the foreign press tries to do it for him

        Yes. The news came from there. What the Ministry of Defense reports is news only for those who categorically do not believe the foreign press. The Defense Ministry only confirms Western news and does not deny details.

        ... Official information appeared the next day, November 16. The Russian Defense Ministry announced the successful defeat of an orbital target
        1. Civil
          Civil 18 November 2021 07: 33
          +4
          The work is going in the right direction. In addition to the United States, the former "most probable enemy" and now "our Western partner", many different countries have their own space programs, and not all of them are friendly. Therefore, this is a clear sign of our capabilities.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 18 November 2021 08: 00
            +8
            many different countries have their own space programs, and not all of them are friendly.
            More precisely, all of them, without exception, have a dual purpose.
          2. military_cat
            military_cat 18 November 2021 08: 01
            -3
            Once again, the first thing they learned about new information was from Western voices, while their own ones were silent or created a senseless noise about double standards and Russophobia. This does not add efficiency to our tools for working in the information field, if suddenly someone cares about it.
            1. AUL
              AUL 18 November 2021 08: 44
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              The recent shootings were already the tenth in the overall series of tests and the first this year. At the same time, for the first time, the launch was carried out not according to the calculated point in space, but according to the real goal.
              Should this be understood in such a way that we just missed the first 9 launches (which is not a shame, given the complexity of the task)? It is difficult to imagine that a rocket was launched in order to hit not a real target, but a piece of space. It turns out to be expensive to shoot just like that, into the wind and not even try to hit the real target!
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 18 November 2021 09: 26
                +21
                Quote: AUL
                Should this be understood so that we just missed the first 9 launches?

                You don't get it right! No. Previously, launches were carried out at the calculated point! That is, the dynamic coordinates of the virtual target (object) were set, and the anti-missile must "connect" with the given coordinates at the moment when the virtual target should be there. A practical (real) launch means that before that, during the tests, the anti-missile missile repeatedly accurately went to the design point ... "hit" the virtual target! (What is the peacock-mawlin? What is the mistake?) A practical start means that the tests have reached the final ...
                1. AUL
                  AUL 18 November 2021 09: 45
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                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  You don't get it right!

                  Thank you very much and bow to the ground for explaining to me about the virtual point - no matter how hard it is! laughing And now, if you explain to me, not too distant, why the coordinates and dynamics of a virtual, and not a real target were laid in the target designation of 9 previous ones, I will generally be happy for a whole week!
                  For in my experience, with each test, and even more so, with such expensive ones, the goal is always to obtain the maximum information possible in a given situation.
                  hi
                  1. Nastia makarova
                    Nastia makarova 18 November 2021 12: 25
                    +6
                    because these are tests, all over the world they shoot at virtual targets and then at real
                    1. AUL
                      AUL 18 November 2021 13: 05
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                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      because these are tests, all over the world they shoot at virtual targets and then at real

                      That is, in other words, "because now everyone is wearing it!" Thanks for the clarification, Nastenka! love
                      1. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 18 November 2021 13: 13
                        +5
                        well, at least someone helped to understand))))
                      2. vl903
                        vl903 18 November 2021 14: 20
                        +2
                        Quote: AUL
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        because these are tests, all over the world they shoot at virtual targets and then at real

                        That is, in other words, "because now everyone is wearing it!" Thanks for the clarification, Nastenka! love

                        Well, as the development of complex technology is not a magic wand.
                        you have to go through many consecutive and expensive stages.
                        read the history of the development of at least military aircraft. almost all took with them the lives of the testers and the first pilots, some more than ten, while they were brought to mind.
                        no one else is doing better and easier on this planet.
                  2. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I 18 November 2021 12: 39
                    +5
                    Quote: AUL
                    he himself would not have doped in zhist!

                    Believe it ... considering the meaning of your first comment ...
                    Quote: AUL
                    why in the target designation of the previous 9 were the coordinates and dynamics of a virtual, and not a real target, I will be generally happy for a whole week!

                    Sorry, but now I can not give you a week of happiness ... I need to come to my senses for a week after your demand to "prove the obvious"! (Well ... like to prove that 2x2 = 4 ...)
                    PS And you do not have to be ill! hi
                    1. AUL
                      AUL 18 November 2021 13: 08
                      -4
                      Quote: Nikolaevich I
                      Sorry, but now I can not give you a week of happiness ... I need to come to my senses for a week after your demand to "prove the obvious"!

                      Well, I can wait a week. Even 10 days. But no more - I'll be busy! lol
                  3. svoroponov
                    svoroponov 18 November 2021 16: 52
                    +8
                    The engine, mass and dimensions (all the same, a mobile complex), a control system with a guidance unit were worked out. Starts were made both from mine installations and then mobile. So 9 launches is still a minimum, and there is nothing to clog up space with clumps of rockets. When everything worked out, they chose a real target and tested the finished worked version.
                  4. Flank
                    Flank 18 November 2021 16: 56
                    +5
                    Quote: AUL
                    why in the target designation of the previous 9 were the coordinates and dynamics of a virtual, and not a real target

                    Run for a box of booze for a week while I explain, don't waste time:

                    When shooting at a virtual target, the amount of space debris increases by 1 unit. When shooting at a real one - by thousands of units. In wartime, one does not care about this, but in peacetime it is impossible to litter the space as it is in it and to fly and to other innocent countries.
                    1. AUL
                      AUL 18 November 2021 18: 55
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                      Quote: Flanke
                      When shooting at a virtual target, the amount of space debris increases by 1 unit. When shooting at real - by thousands of units

                      Ah, that's where the dog rummaged! From the "green", therefore, considerations! laughing
                      Don't you think that shooting at a real target and shooting at a "donut hole" are not the same thing? It is one thing to launch a rocket into a certain volume of space (which is not measured in cubic cm, but at best in cubic km), and quite another is to find the desired target in this volume with dimensions in meters and strike it with kinetic elements!
                      And if the first stage of the process - the delivery of the warhead to the required volume, no longer contains fundamental difficulties (there are similar developments in astronautics, for example), then the second stage - the selection of targets in a given volume, aiming and hitting the desired object - is much less developed. And launching 9 missiles only to complete the 1st stage, without a warhead (which first of all needs to be worked out) is an impermissible waste!
                      PS And I have a supply of alcohol at home. Not for a week of conscientious binge, of course, but for a couple of times thoughtfully sitting with a good person is quite! wink
                      1. Flank
                        Flank 18 November 2021 19: 16
                        +5
                        This is not green considerations, but practicality. For example, you and I do not urinate on the floor in the office, but endure to the toilet because you can get it from colleagues in the face.

                        Well, you can also get into a square with dimensions in meters in a given square. As far as I understood, positioning is up to centimeters there now. That is, a real launch with a real hit, but without a target. The real application is when it was necessary to show that if necessary, we will bang their expensive satellite.
                      2. AUL
                        AUL 18 November 2021 19: 31
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                        Quote: Flanke
                        As far as I understood, positioning is up to centimeters there now. That is, a real launch with a real hit, but without a target.

                        How do you determine the reality of a hit? wink
                        Moving warhead, moving target. About "up to centimeters positioning now." - you are a great optimist. You need a very nimble computer and well-debugged software, which cannot be done without real launches.
                      3. Flank
                        Flank 18 November 2021 19: 56
                        +2
                        Well, they track the same objects in a few centimeters. Docking all sorts of automatic. Telemetry. Have come up with something. Moreover, it is not necessary to shoot up to centimeters there, it is enough to shoot thousands of balls in a cone like in an anti-aircraft missile.
                      4. Intruder
                        Intruder 19 November 2021 21: 20
                        -1
                        and it is quite another thing to find the desired target with dimensions in meters in this volume and strike it with kinetic elements!
                        When her orbital ... have been known to everyone since 1982 !? Damn, even the laziest one already has them in the NASA database, since the 90s of the last century, let's not talk about NORAD even there since the 82nd ... lol :
                      5. AUL
                        AUL 19 November 2021 23: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: Intruder
                        When her orbital ... have been known to everyone since 1982 !?

                        And do you think that this is enough to defeat? belay
                      6. Intruder
                        Intruder 19 November 2021 23: 18
                        -1
                        And you think it's enough to defeat
                        In full measure, I did not consider it, and I don’t think it, but I don’t feel any laudatory excitement about the defeat of the garbage 40 years ago, and in general, to the surprise of the local public .. which is so successful, here many throws minuses and scribbles , not very adequate comments!
                        Sincerely, hi
                      7. AUL
                        AUL 20 November 2021 00: 02
                        -2
                        Quote: Intruder
                        to the surprise of the local public .. which is so successful, here many throws minuses and scribbles, not very adequate comments!

                        Well, you just didn't catch the subject of my butting with a "group of comrades" from whom I got a bunch of minuses. This bunch breaks my heart, but doesn't convince me. laughing If you are not lazy, find my first comment, then you will see what I am arguing and why I am being minus.
                  5. venik
                    venik 18 November 2021 19: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: AUL
                    Thank you very much and bow to the ground for explaining to me about the virtual point - no matter how hard it is!

                    ======
                    Well, you see: it means not in vain Nikolaevich tried hard! lol
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 19 November 2021 16: 43
                      +1
                      Now here's what's interesting: in the Leader project there were PUs for Nudoli.
                      Will such PUs be installed on Nakhimov or not? There is enough space.
          3. SSR
            SSR 18 November 2021 20: 24
            -6
            Quote: Civil
            Therefore, this is a clear sign of our capabilities.

            Only we are back in role number two.

            At the same time, the complex is able to help comply with agreements, because into the circle of his potential goals includes hypothetical armed satellites.

            If, this is a hypothetical satellite, strikes first, then there will be victims on the ground, and we will destroy the empty carrier with return fire.
            The exchange is completely ambiguous.
            The attacker will be one step ahead.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 19 November 2021 16: 46
              0
              No one will inflict a single blow, it is more expensive for itself.
              And it is impossible to hide the preparation for a massive strike.
        2. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 18 November 2021 07: 42
          +7
          "The Russian Ministry of Defense does not specify the details of the recent tests, and the foreign press is trying to do it for him.. "It looks like the Ministry of Defense made a statement. Because it was prompted (forced) by the foreign press? Stas also added that by making such a statement, the Ministry of Defense took care of the state of mind of those who do not believe in the Western press? But to put it mildly, not As for the details, the MoD is not obliged to refute the vile fabrications.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 18 November 2021 07: 59
      +5
      Yes, and there is infa that the complex uses external target designation. Which is not very good.
      There is a great suspicion that the complex is omnivorous in terms of receiving target designation: there is external from large stationary complexes - excellent, there is target designation from the same S-400 or S-500 - we use it, there is nothing external - we use our standard station.
    3. Sergey Nikiforov
      Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 08: 09
      .
      Inflation is almost 9%, the average pension is 16 thousand What is more important? Like a balance of interests.?
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 18 November 2021 08: 50
        +7
        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
        Inflation is almost 9%, the average pension is 16 thousand What is more important? Like a balance of interests.?

        You do not count our inflation and pensions, we ourselves somehow! It will no longer be possible to live at our expense in the foreseeable future.
        1. Sergey Nikiforov
          Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 10: 04
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          Who are "we.? And why I, a resident of Russia, cannot calculate my pension and my standard of living Do not take care of the whole fatherland, you are small on a historical scale More with pique vests (if you know who it is) you associate
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 18 November 2021 10: 09
            +8
            Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
            Who are "we.? And why I, a resident of Russia, cannot calculate my pension and my standard of living Do not take care of the whole fatherland, you are small on a historical scale More with pique vests (if you know who it is) you associate

            You, too, are not a wide flight ...... a bird, count your pension and lament, but for everyone it is not necessary! Write then, they say, my pension is small, but to equalize everyone ... with hints that there is no need to divide and distribute everything.
            1. Sergey Nikiforov
              Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 10: 31
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              Something you somehow turned sour about life at your expense The wrong line stuck a training manual It happens that morning, everyone has different things As for hints, you, like realties, keep it with you I get a pretty decent pension for a senior officer But I do not live in an airless space And at work, and very often I come across people who receive 13-14 thousand, without the slightest prospect of living at least somehow better. Therefore, I said whether the slogan Cannons instead of butter would work.
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r 18 November 2021 10: 40
                +7
                Morning, apparently, you, so-so, was! By 10 hours 30 minutes, they dispersed and wrote more or less clearly what they wanted to express! But on the merits of the question - I do not see a parallel today between guns and a pandemic, including deaths. There are many questions, ranging from the origin of the virus, the effectiveness of vaccines and the unwillingness of citizens to be vaccinated (he himself was vaccinated at the beginning of the year). But in a historical retrospective, it is clearly clear that without guns, there is no oil or life at all, that is, there is oil and life, but not those who do not have guns, the latter, at best, have beads! hi
                1. Sergey Nikiforov
                  Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 10: 47
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                  No, well, you famously dodged the answer to the question of who lives at your expense. that it is not only with us) and think what is more important
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 18 November 2021 10: 52
                    +2
                    I did not evade anywhere, it was just that from your first post it was not clear where you were from, judging by the statement, I thought that from abroad, therefore, at our expense, the phrase was! Remember the famous - against Russia, on the ruins of Russia and at the expense of Russia. So the freebie goes by on the sly for them. But you dodged the answer - so that we will be sawing guns in retirement? Will we cut and distribute everything, as in the best nonsense of liberalism? Nobody is going to attack us?!? And what about the coronavirus and deaths, where is the connection with the guns? Huh?
                    1. Sergey Nikiforov
                      Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 11: 11
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                      The connection is the most direct, creating all sorts of crap, such as Poseidons and other products, we completely forgot about health care Go to any clinic and take a look And also, come to our military hospital, which is one for the whole district and wipe it And roughly speaking, don't ... .... those from what they saw, look where the urologist of the polyclinic takes. Here is a direct link with guns and oil. And pensions.? What has to do with dividing, do not exaggerate But ensuring a decent standard of living of the population is a direct responsibility of the state and the leader personally And I think that after going to the store, an elderly person will deeply spit on all the trials And resentment will stifle, why his native state did this to him
                      1. neri73-r
                        neri73-r 18 November 2021 11: 37
                        +4
                        I doubt very much that you are from Russia and that you are a former senior officer. I go to hospitals and have been in hospitals. Everywhere it is different (no need to bring Moscow to me), but everywhere there is almost a repair or has undergone new equipment. Yes, it's not good with specialists. Undoubtedly, the standard of living must be raised, and this is what they are doing. But, here are the neighbors, near and far, well, not as they do not want it, they interfere, with all sorts of sanctions, armaments, so you have to allocate a certain part for the army and the defense industry, alas, this is the truth of life! And so, according to you, according to the liberal, and the police should be dispersed and the Rosguard, and all the money should be spent on health care, and the rest should be distributed. BUT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN! Someone and bandos should drive, and someone and the country to defend and not with their bare hands.
                      2. Sergey Nikiforov
                        Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 11: 50
                        -5
                        Let's conclude an agreement You come to me in Smolensk I will take you to our hospital I will show you in what conditions the specialists of the polyclinic work, I will show the medical building If I lied about something, I pay you the way here and there and cover the glades If not, you cover me At the same time I will show my retirement, the title is indicated there. Agree.? And what about the National Guard, you are not far from the truth
                      3. Hunter 2
                        Hunter 2 18 November 2021 12: 05
                        +8
                        I will support you ... if a Person is ready to reveal himself and invites you to visit to show Honor, This is Strong! Money is not a Special problem for me, I am ready to participate and invest in an excursion. In PM for details. But if you are cheating ... My fie is guaranteed to you.
                      4. Per se.
                        Per se. 18 November 2021 12: 10
                        -1
                        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                        The connection is the most direct
                        The most direct connection is only that we have both "guns" and "oil" in a flawed condition, and they need to be opposed not to each other, but to our capitalism, which has brought healthcare, education and science to the handle in "optimization". There is still a military-technical potential from the USSR, in which there is still someone to create the same "Nudol". Nevertheless, like natural resources, many of the Soviet military developments are sold for green "candy wrappers". Others have nothing special to trade with, we mostly buy ourselves, like "import substitution", we have already reached seed potatoes with sugar beets ...

                        S-300s were sold long ago, we are selling S-400s for them, even the newest S-500s are ready to be exported, and the S-500 is already actually a system capable of hitting space objects. This is despite the fact that more than one thousand "axes" (Tomahawk) are sharpened against us, plus thousands of aircraft, in fact, with our piece assembly of each air defense complex and missiles for them. Who will repel the attack if a real "grandiose nix" happens? But, we sell, in fact, when they themselves are still "with a bare bottom."

                        Why, probably because no one is going to really fight with their bourgeois masters, in which our moneybags keep all their wealth. So we live, some increase the rating from puffing out their cheeks, others make money on weapons, and guns and oil are a second time, like the people themselves. Here it is no longer necessary to talk about cannons instead of butter, but about the need for people's power, then we will be happy, both with butter and with cannons.
                      5. Sergey Nikiforov
                        Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 12: 57
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                        Well, we passed the people's power The result, alas, is known And there is only one way out, fair, impartial elections The people determine how they should live Agree And no amendments to the Constitution
          2. gjkrjdybr50
            gjkrjdybr50 18 November 2021 14: 58
            +7
            Well, snot started again. It seems that we were discussing the work of "Nudoli" for a real goal, but then there appeared either a Ukrainian, or a "fighter of the Central Intelligence Directorate of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or just a troll and began to ruin everything. Dear, you were not mistaken with the site? Maybe you are on Censor or Avia.pro?"
            Moderator, how long can you remind about these ghouls that prevent people from communicating normally?
          3. gjkrjdybr50
            gjkrjdybr50 18 November 2021 15: 05
            +6
            Yes, count, for God's sake. BUT just not on this site and not in this discussion. The discussion is going on combat work on the real goal of the Nudol complex.
            On specialized sites, such as Voenpence, Financier and the like, dismiss your snot as much as you want, but here you seem to have nothing to do. Or is it a shift task to ruin the discussion on topwar?
          4. svoroponov
            svoroponov 18 November 2021 17: 06
            +3
            You can, of course, consider your pension and the standard of living corresponding to it. But if you now raise the standard of living to the maximum, then your descendants may no longer have any standard of living at all, like the Russian state. But maybe you have no descendants, maybe your great-grandfathers or grandfathers fought not on our side or sat in the rear, maybe they were at odds with the law and instead of protecting the Fatherland they sat in camps, then the principle is right for you, After me, at least the grass does not grow ,,. But you understand what the matter is, the overwhelming majority of real Citizens of Russia are against this principle!
            1. Sergey Nikiforov
              Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 17: 57
              -8
              For God's sake, answer for yourself, the VO audience is a very specific audience and you shouldn't do sociological research on it
      2. Vitaly Solovyov
        Vitaly Solovyov 18 November 2021 10: 16
        +5
        Do not confuse the situation with prostitution
        1. Sergey Nikiforov
          Sergey Nikiforov 18 November 2021 10: 31
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          Decipher if it doesn't bother you
      3. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 18 November 2021 12: 26
        +7
        judging by the minuses, zero is more important)))))
    4. B1 Lanser
      B1 Lanser 20 November 2021 17: 55
      -4
      The USA did this trick back in 2008! And Russia only 13 years later tested anti-satellite weapons! I wonder how Russian patriots will comment on this gigantic abyss? There is a clear technical rejection of the Russian Federation from the West, no matter who would say it!
  2. Uran53
    Uran53 18 November 2021 06: 24
    +8
    As JV Stalin said: "If we are scolded in the West, then we are doing everything right." It's nice to read such news.
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 18 November 2021 06: 28
    +2
    The reckless behavior of the United States, which constantly threatened Russia with all sorts of punishments, led to this test.
    It would be possible to resume underground nuclear tests for the sprout ... otherwise the Anglo-Saxons have completely lost their fear and are climbing to our borders with the insistence of racketeers.
    The United States understands only strength and it must be demonstrated to them.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 18 November 2021 08: 02
      +3
      It would be possible to resume underground nuclear tests for the sprout ...
      You will also propose to conduct orbital tests of the gigaton class. For an accent.
    2. Loh
      Loh 18 November 2021 09: 02
      +6
      So underground tests should be carried out along the perimeter of the western border ... weak soldier drinks
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 23 November 2021 09: 05
        0
        So underground tests should be carried out along the perimeter of the western border ... weak
        And then tell the amazed "public" that we are building underground gas storage facilities to supply Europe with gas laughing
  4. Vlad69
    Vlad69 18 November 2021 06: 39
    +4
    The news is not new, but the mood in the morning raises and confidence, as they used to say, in the peaceful sky overhead!
  5. Asad
    Asad 18 November 2021 06: 43
    -1
    So the ISS was dodging our debris?
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 18 November 2021 07: 14
      -3
      Quote: ASAD
      So the ISS was dodging our debris?

      Maneuvered
      1. Asad
        Asad 18 November 2021 07: 15
        -3
        Thanks for the clarification.
    2. avg avg
      avg avg 18 November 2021 10: 18
      +10
      No. The fragments and the ISS fly not only in different orbits, but also in different planes.
  6. north 2
    north 2 18 November 2021 06: 46
    +2
    now we can assume what Putin meant when he spoke a couple of weeks ago about a completely new weapon that Russia already possesses.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 18 November 2021 07: 55
      .
      Quote: north 2
      now we can assume what Putin meant when he spoke a couple of weeks ago about a completely new weapon that Russia already possesses.

      What is special about this weapon? It is found in China, India and the USA
      1. north 2
        north 2 18 November 2021 09: 41
        +2
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: north 2
        now we can assume what Putin meant when he spoke a couple of weeks ago about a completely new weapon that Russia already possesses.

        What is special about this weapon? It is found in China, India and the USA

        And the peculiarity of this new weapon of Russia is that it can now shoot down this American secret space interceptor X-37B. And Russia does not hide this, after the demonstration with the shooting down of its own satellite. America understands this, that's why they raised hysteria. However, Americans must understand that Putin’s words, that Russia will confidently rebuff all America’s actions, are not words to the wind. By the way, it is not Russia but America that deployed this military interceptor in Space.
        1. 203-K
          203-K 18 November 2021 18: 18
          +1
          shoot down this American secret space interceptor X-37B. And Russia does not hide this, after the demonstration with the shooting down of its own satellite. America understands this, that's why they raised hysteria.
          This is exactly the case. I think they were also frightened by the fact that the tests were carried out precisely at the height of their exercises in the Black Sea, thereby showing on what we were turning their threats.
      2. MinskFox
        MinskFox 18 November 2021 18: 16
        0
        Peculiarity? The height of hitting the target and mobility, now look at how China and India shot down. The United States was shot down at an altitude of 247 km, do you still have questions?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 18 November 2021 18: 37
          -3
          Quote: MinskFox
          The United States was shot down at an altitude of 247 km,

          Chinese - 800 km
          Quote: MinskFox
          Do you have any questions?
          1. MinskFox
            MinskFox 18 November 2021 18: 45
            +4
            I wrote to you with what the Chinese shot down, there is a missile the size of a union.
          2. White Tiger
            White Tiger 18 November 2021 19: 40
            +2
            No, the Chinese have fewer, I don’t remember exactly ... But we got it higher - 550 km, and this is not the limit ... In the same place everything is written above
    2. wlkw
      wlkw 18 November 2021 08: 57
      -5
      It's an old weapon, just a new version, but that's not bad either.
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    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 18 November 2021 07: 08
      -3
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      ***
      And now there are 1897 American satellites in orbit.
      We can look at them through a telescope, or we can ...
      ***

      but we may not look ..
  8. Intruder
    Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 07
    .
    Interesting news, they destroyed the ancient apparatus of the times of the "mammoths", having trained on a non-maneuvering target, with well-known orbital parameters since the end of the last century, in simple terms, a rocket with a kinetic interceptor left for lard rubles and hit a "piece" of high-tech "garbage" of the late 20 century, already !!! And this instills fear in Western partners ... ??? with such alignments on tests at the RF Aerospace Forces, we do not need enemies, the military budget will crack itself!
    1. novel66
      novel66 18 November 2021 07: 27
      +11
      how else to experience? first on a simple target, hit - go to the next level
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 31
        .
        how else to experience? first on a simple target, hit - go to the next level
        Approximately, to real conditions, bring the target apparatus out, force it to perform, at least in software, anti-missile maneuvers with the given parameters, and fire the complex to confirm all the declared characteristics !!!
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 18 November 2021 07: 41
          +19
          What are these satellites that perform anti-missile maneuvers?)))
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 48
            .
            What are these satellites that perform anti-missile maneuvers?)))
            From the same opera as ground complexes on a mobile platform, with a ground-to-orbit missile !? drinks
          2. wlkw
            wlkw 18 November 2021 09: 01
            +2
            Why not? If he has a propulsion system, then at least he can slightly raise or lower the orbit. Which, in turn, will require a recalculation of the interceptor's orbit. If the target maneuvers successfully (in a timely manner), then the interceptor missile may not have time to correct its orbit, and whether it will have a second chance is a question.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 18 November 2021 09: 44
              +6
              Anti-missile maneuvers are a bit different) T4m is more in such an environment. The satellite needs to come back later, otherwise, as I understand it, its functionality evaporates?
              1. wlkw
                wlkw 18 November 2021 10: 55
                +4
                Satellites "fall" all the time, especially low-altitude satellites, so they periodically make a "maneuver", which consists in returning to a given flight altitude.
                Its functionality does not change from this, if these maneuvers are within acceptable limits, and these maneuvers occur constantly, if the satellite is equipped with an engine, of course.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 18 November 2021 12: 16
                  +3
                  I am not talking about that. If he succeeds in a permissible maneuver with, say, an obviously limited fuel resource, and will he not be able to go back in, will he? His appointment in this situation by?
                  1. wlkw
                    wlkw 18 November 2021 14: 04
                    +3
                    Roughly speaking, satellites can be divided into two categories:
                    - first, these are those that are not critical to the parameters of the orbit and allow a decent deviation from the calculated trajectory for normal or do not care at all.
                    - the second is those where the trajectory parameters must be strictly within the established tolerances. These are such satellites as stationary, geostationary, solar - oriented and others. If they are lost from their orbit, then they do not stop working, but their value can drop sharply, because the whole point of a satellite is based on finding it in this orbit.
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 18 November 2021 14: 06
                      +3
                      I said in simple words about etgm. Which means you just need to force such satellites to maneuver)
        2. novel66
          novel66 18 November 2021 07: 45
          +2
          Just like that? this is not done
        3. vitvit123
          vitvit123 18 November 2021 07: 53
          +4
          Those. do you need to launch a satellite so that it maneuvers, and then beat it? As I understand it, the old ones no longer have this opportunity, they have developed a resource ...
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 18 November 2021 07: 57
            -8
            Quote: vitvit123
            As I understand it, the old ones no longer have this opportunity, they have developed a resource ...

            Knocked down an old, 1985 launch
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 18 November 2021 07: 59
              +7
              What are you talking about? I realized that the old one was shot down ... I was talking with another person ..
        4. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 18 November 2021 08: 17
          +5
          Approximately, to real conditions, bring the target apparatus out, force it to perform, at least in software, anti-missile maneuvers with the given parameters, and fire the complex to confirm all the declared characteristics !!!
          Ideally, of course, it would be necessary to do this too. Here are just the launch of a maneuvering target satellite, our sworn partners will go completely off the rails. And after shooting down such a target, they will start jumping out of the windows of skyscrapers. It would be nice. BUT!
          It would be a double test: a fighter satellite and an interceptor missile. Such a target would quite justifiably violate our declared principle of non-deployment of weapons in outer space. This is if you take the legal side.
          There is also a technical side. A satellite capable of performing not just maneuvering, but energetic anti-aircraft maneuvers, must have energy that is crazy by the standards of a spacecraft - a powerful engine and bottomless reserves of fuel. After all, he should have enough fuel for multiple repetitions of such maneuvers. He must also have an impressive attack detection station on board in order to notice the threat from the interceptor missile in time (at space speeds) and dodge extremely briskly. Given that the interceptor missile will constantly turn on the target. And unlike a target satellite, an interceptor does not need to save fuel for repeated maneuvers in the future.
          That is, such a target: a) is potentially a military orbital interceptor satellite, that is, a weapon - the very fact of its existence; b) extremely difficult to develop.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 25
            .
            Given that the interceptor missile will constantly turn on the target.
            On what, she will constantly turn on, on the magic of the Eldar !? laughing The same goes for her, as you described here:
            must have power engineering that is crazy by the standards of the spacecraft - a powerful engine and bottomless reserves of fuel.

            Although, it is possible to change the orbital parameters not "so quickly" and for this there are a bunch of correction systems, even on plasma propulsion systems and any other one-component systems, plus the use of microgravity has not been canceled yet!
            He must also have an impressive attack detection station on board in order to notice the threat from the interceptor missile in time (at space speeds) and dodge extremely briskly.
            also, when the mobile complex is over the horizon or is closed by the folds of the terrain, where it stands on the starting line, or only use it on a flat level ... bully , how and with what to direct the kinetic interceptor, when it has already "moved away" (there was a physical separation ...) from the booster stage-block of the rocket in orbit already !?
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 34
              -7
              We look and think:
              The 14TS033 Nudol complex is being developed by Concern East Kazakhstan Almaz-Antey under contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated August 2009 and April 2015. The main element of Nudol is the 14A042 solid-propellant rocket developed by Novator OKB (Yekaterinburg) on a mobile launcher 14P222 (on the MZKT 12x12 chassis) According to Western data, the 14A042 missile is equipped with a kinetic interceptor with a multispectral electronic-ooptical homing head (MOEGSN, 14SH129, developed by AE Nudelman Precision Engineering Design Bureau). The complex also uses a mobile command and computer post 14P078 (on the MZKT chassis). Targeting of the complex is provided by a stationary radar for detecting small space objects 14C031 (object 20Yu6), deployed near the city of Chekhov in the Moscow region. introduced its own mobile target designation and guidance radar.
              Propulsion system (presumably):
              - PAD - RDTT
              - 1 stage - RTTT
              - 2 stage - RTTT
              - combat stage - shunting engines (or solid propellant rocket engines or rocket engines)
              FSUE NIIPM (Perm) in the annual report for 2013 reports on the development of the 14X609 product that has no analogues in the world (probably, we are talking about the solid propellant rocket charge of the first or second rocket stages) for the Nudol complex with the first bench test. In the automatic power supply system of the 14A042 rocket developed by NPO Kvant, model 2017 and later, 9B280-1 accumulator batteries are used


              Sources:
              Annual report of GSKB "Almaz-Antey" for 2011
              KBSM Annual Report 2011
              JSC "Avangard". Annual report of the open joint stock company "Avangard" for 2010. Safronovo, http://www.avangard-plastik.ru, 2011
        5. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 18 November 2021 11: 42
          +6
          Quote: Intruder
          Approximately, to real conditions, bring the target apparatus out, force it to perform, at least in software, anti-missile maneuvers with the given parameters, and fire the complex to confirm all the declared characteristics !!!

          What for? If 99% of the potential goals of this complex are currently non-maneuvering targets with well-known orbital parameters?
          These tests can generally be another HPP: their goal is to force the enemy to en masse switch to maneuvering military satellites, which will turn out to be heavier, cumbersome, with less payload (because fuel, tanks, engines, control system), and most importantly - more expensive. smile
      2. Cosm22
        Cosm22 18 November 2021 12: 38
        -7
        Quote: novel xnumx
        how else to experience? first on a simple target, hit - go to the next level


        And the next level for the target is the ISS itself?
    2. Redsun
      Redsun 18 November 2021 07: 28
      +5
      Modern space monitoring systems can detect tennis ball-sized objects in orbit and predict their trajectories. What prevents you from doing this with any other satellite? That he can maneuver? So this time is needed
    3. svoroponov
      svoroponov 18 November 2021 17: 25
      +1
      You probably didn't understand. The rocket left the mobile ground installation. Secondly, after launch and separation, the rocket and interceptor were guided to the satellite, and this is a completely different quality of interception.
  9. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 18 November 2021 07: 08
    -2
    At least a significant part of the military satellites of a potential enemy falls into the affected area of ​​the Nudol complex.

    ***
    And now there are 1897 American satellites in orbit.
    We can look at them through a telescope, or we can ...
    ***
    1. prior
      prior 18 November 2021 10: 14
      -1
      If you want space to be peaceful, organize the removal of waste from the ball bearing industry into orbit. laughing
      Better for different ...
  10. Avior
    Avior 18 November 2021 07: 20
    -4
    ... The State Department claims that as a result of the interception of the satellite in orbit, more than 1500 debris were formed, which in the future could crumble into hundreds of thousands of smaller fragments.

    Incorrectly cited. Now, and not in the future, 1500 large debris and hundreds of thousands of small debris have already formed. The height was 465 km.
    Despite the fact that space is large, in practice, collisions with debris and spacecraft with each other occur.
    Several years ago, Russian Space and Iridium collided at a speed of 10 kilometers per second in orbits intersecting at almost 90 degrees.
    In the picture, there were about 2000 large debris plus a large number of small debris - the situation is in 20 minutes.


    Most are still scattered in space in different orbits.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 34
      0
      still in space
      Straight scattered !? lol Under micro-gravity, they simply and simply changed their orbital parameters ... and only, and then slowly and surely, struck across the atmosphere and disappeared safely in a short-lived plasma wake, after a certain length of time !!! yes
      1. Avior
        Avior 18 November 2021 07: 39
        0
        after a certain length of time !!!

        Highly dependent on height. Most of this wreckage will last for decades.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 42
          +1
          Most of this wreckage will last for decades.
          It depends on what kind of orbital ... and without correction ... it is unlikely that the Sun will blow off in another outburst, the Moon will change parameters within a year, or a couple of meteor fields with small micro-rocks !?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 18 November 2021 08: 02
            +5
            It's time for the "space garbage collectors" ... to organize! Not right tomorrow, but in the future this will also have to be dealt with.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 17
              -1
              It's time for the "space garbage collectors" ... to organize! Not right tomorrow, but in the future this will also have to be dealt with.
              In 100-200 years, it may be useful for collecting scrap metal during the construction of orbital platforms and other objects, as an option for using secondary materials for different alloys and composites, why "dig" them and enrich them, especially rare earth components, if everything is already there and brought to orbit, already in the past centuries by the ancestors !?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 18 November 2021 08: 36
                +3
                Space technology is not cheap, it should be borne in mind.
                So many science fiction writers skip the theme that humanity will have to strain when the resources of the planet are "eaten up" to the limit.
                Obvious and probable.
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 43
                  -1
                  when the resources of the planet will be "eaten up" to the limit.
                  Especially when many switch to permanent lockdown and remote work, there will be no one to dig these very resources and there will be no point, painful miners - very few people need ..., robots and only in mines and quarry developments and other things .., after 15- For 25 years of a global pandemic, the next generation of earthlings with kavid will be raised in life from birth ... on this planet !?
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 18 November 2021 09: 47
                    +2
                    Also a topic that is constantly being exaggerated - The most terrible enemy of mankind is man himself!
                    It is clear that covidla will not work for anyone!
                    The question is, when will the financial interests of individuals / communities / corporations be crushed and the struggle for the "survival" of everyone, not a select few, will begin ???
                    It's hard to believe, but how else it is possible, I do not know.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 November 2021 07: 30
    +6
    The presence of anti-satellite weapons, and even on a mobile platform, will greatly confuse the plans of a "potential enemy" ... But how can the most important satellites knock down if they "smell of fried"? And they have a lot of things tied to satellites.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 45
      -8
      and even on a mobile platform, the plans of the "probable enemy" will be greatly confused ... But how do they knock down the most important satellites if they "smell of fried"? And they have a lot of things tied to satellites.
      Namely, satellite intelligence is also developed, like no one else in the world, and even monetized into the board since the late 90s of the 20th century! In the meantime, that same Nudol will drag from the hangar to the launch zone and begin to illuminate the target for the missile segment with its radar, the hypersonic glider of the partners will arrive, according to her technical douche and that's it, goodbye dear calculation, all the heroes and posthumously !!!
      1. vitvit123
        vitvit123 18 November 2021 07: 57
        +3
        Those. lay down and die? What you wrote can be attributed to any of our air defense systems or to any radar ..
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 01
          -4
          lay down and die?
          Not quite so, but singing songs of praise, the same is somehow not worth it at such a time ... the propaganda is overbearing and very successful and only, but the people are being led to old and well-known tricks ...
          this can be attributed to any of our air defense systems or to any radar ..
          There were and are good complexes and radars, but we will not say anything about them and we will not shine, and then suddenly tomorrow ... they will come in handy over the left shoulder, and the fact that they are promoting from all the cracks and teapots is not very good and understandable, only for those who...!!!
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 18 November 2021 08: 33
            +5
            So it seems not to rhyme and not to music ...

            And what is bad about the radar and the complex?

            What is it that some kind of oil is obtained? No ?..
          2. Svetlana
            Svetlana 18 November 2021 17: 07
            0
            Quote: Intruder
            we will not shine

            Let's shine. For the speed of destruction of enemy satellites, it is necessary to shine a powerful gigawatt AFAR on them.
            China to build a gigawatt solar power plant in low Earth orbit by 2049

            https://news.rambler.ru/tech/46713870-kitay-planiruet-dobyvat-gigavatty-energii-iz-kosmosa/
            https://3dnews.ru/1046860/kitay-razvernyot-na-orbite-1gvt-solnechnuyu-elektrostantsiyu-dlya-peredachi-energii-na-zemlyu
            But it is not easy to build in space, it will be necessary to put a lot of building materials into orbit.
            There are already gigawatt power plants on Earth. Therefore, it is much easier to build a gigawatt centimeter-range APAR not in space, but on Earth.
            Calculation of APAR parameters (https://mipt.ru/education/chair/physics/kmf/mPh_6/lektsii-2016-kuzmichev-sd-/Lection_4-2016.pdf):
      2. mark1
        mark1 18 November 2021 08: 27
        +3
        Quote: Intruder
        a hypersonic glider of partners will arrive, according to her technical douche

        You are telling how something that doesn’t fly to something that you don’t really know, not you, not me ...
        Are you spiteful? This is from impotent anger ... Take care of the ulcer, still live and live ...
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 39
          -4
          This is from impotent anger ... Take care of the ulcer, still live and live ...
          Unfortunately for you, I have no ulcer !!! And in general, judge by yourself about malice laughing , I’m actually eating a bun now and laughing, how everyone got excited at "Nudol" straight techno-ecstasy, tea is not a beauty, but hormones are playing among the people ... drinks !!!
          1. mark1
            mark1 18 November 2021 08: 44
            +5
            Quote: Intruder
            Unfortunately for you, I have no ulcer !!!

            So I say - take care of yourself.
            Quote: Intruder
            everybody turned on "Nudol" straight techno-ecstasy,

            Of course we got excited. there are few such beauties in the world and ours seems to be the best. And you - phew! .. - yes, she probably has crooked legs!
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 47
              -5
              And you - phew! .. yes, she probably has crooked legs!
              What!? winked No, thank you ... it was not even in my thoughts, although the "hips" are wide and at the waist is not very slender, but the girl in our opinion is "simple and understandable", if you do not find fault, exactly how - solid rocket motor, "with milk" !! ! drinks
              1. mark1
                mark1 18 November 2021 09: 30
                +4
                Quote: Intruder
                although the "hips" are wide and not very slim at the waist,

                Signs of Russian beauty - thighs, chest, eyes (and she's big-eyed) and the fact that "a galloping horse will stop" .. the last is the most important thing.
      3. svoroponov
        svoroponov 18 November 2021 17: 51
        +5
        You probably do not understand well about the work of modern missile defense systems. Surveillance is carried out with overlapping radar zones and the deactivation of their radar, for example, near Moscow will not be a simultaneous disabling of the radar somewhere near Voronezh or Murmansk. And the peculiarity of the mobile complex is that it does not need to be dragged somewhere. And preparation for shooting from receiving the command - minutes. Planning American gliders is a myth. They have a control problem already in the atmosphere. They cannot achieve guidance control in this area. The same with hypersonic by the way. That is, the glider either turns into an ordinary ballistic head or for control and guidance should significantly reduce the speed, which makes it a convenient target for air defense systems in the area.
        I will also tell you that in order to destroy the target with Aegis intercept missiles, beacons are attached to the target. In addition, the complexes receive a warning from where the target started. Well, their block-3 can only work on a collision course. In pursuit, they are not effective for Russian missiles. They voiced this, which was brought up for discussion in the US Senate. Truth after that silence in the press.
        1. svoroponov
          svoroponov 19 November 2021 20: 29
          0
          By the way, our interceptor, proceeding from the closed area by the military, caught up with the satellite
          on the catch-up, and this speaks of the high energetics of the rocket and the interceptor.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 18 November 2021 07: 57
      +1
      Welcome soldier
      The "probable enemy" will try to bring our advanced combat systems under some kind of restriction ... while he does not have this, and now he has no small grief ... their "space advantage" is not so obvious, apparently.
    3. unaha
      unaha 18 November 2021 09: 18
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And they have a lot of things tied to satellites.

      And our lieutenant is sitting in the warhead and plotting a course with a curvimeter?
  12. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 18 November 2021 07: 43
    +5
    Since we live in a world in which there is no stability, then it is necessary to have at least some opportunity to create balance, and therefore it is necessary to shoot.
    There is only one importance - how much does the satellite cost and how much the rocket?
    But there is even greater importance "No matter how expensive victory is, but defeat would be even more expensive"
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 18 November 2021 07: 49
      .
      because you have to shoot
      From an expensive reactive slingshot, on garbage 40 tons ago !!!
      1. Evil troll
        Evil troll 18 November 2021 07: 59
        +5
        Precisely, it was necessary to shoot down an expensive modern satellite.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 06
          -9
          shoot down an expensive modern satellite
          In your opinion, rather - yes !? I wrote about a slightly different class of devices, surprisingly and higher ... lol
          1. Gust
            Gust 18 November 2021 08: 55
            +1
            Another class of apparatus is unscientific fantasy. The satellite initially cannot maneuver with the same acceleration as the interceptor. It has a higher speed, less specific strength, specific fuel reserve, there are no onboard detection means.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 59
              -2
              Another class of apparatus is unscientific fantasy. The satellite initially cannot maneuver with the same acceleration as the interceptor
              But he is obliged to change ballistics, otherwise we shoot at a tethered ball and only with an expensive rocket, then what is the innermost meaning, if not only political advertising in a pandemic !?
              It has a higher speed, less specific strength, specific fuel reserve, there are no onboard detection means.
              Specific parameters, you can use different ones, programmatically change the trajectories and orbital parameters, we still learned, from the beginning of the 60s and without any kumputters and other things there, when there was no one and nothing in orbit, in general !!!
              1. Gust
                Gust 18 November 2021 09: 59
                +1
                In theory, yes. But all operating satellites, without exception, will not be able to do this. In the case of a constant pseudochaotic change of orbital elements, firstly, they will burn all the fuel very quickly, and secondly, their intended use will be difficult, and thirdly, this will still not help, since the available acceleration of the interceptor is much higher and the field of striking elements will still cover all possible changes in the trajectory.
                The Kh-47V is also vulnerable, but it will be much more difficult to do this.
            2. svoroponov
              svoroponov 18 November 2021 18: 18
              +1
              The satellite, if you give a small deviation with a small deviation from the orbit while moving along it - spiral-like, then this makes interception by hit very difficult - the head will simply miss. Even controlled due to high convergence rates and the inability to quickly retarget. Western satellites cannot yet maneuver like that. But the heads of Satan are taught this. I think such capabilities have been carried over to the latest Russian military spacecraft.
              In general, advertising is the engine of progress and of trade. For Americans, the main thing is not to show the real capabilities of technology, the main thing is how to present them in the press, that they have no analogues in their characteristics.
              A friend from America took part in auto racing through woodland. Before the start, their SUVs and their characteristics were so much praised that mom don't cry. The Zaporozhets won with a Ukrainian guy at the wheel, who started for a laugh. While the super-duper skidded in the mud on the forest roads, the Zaporozhets calmly maneuvering between the trees overtook everyone and was at the finish line first.
          2. Snail N9
            Snail N9 18 November 2021 09: 10
            -4
            The fact that the old, but real satellite was shot down is nothing but progress. Previously, they generally wrote about "successful shooting" at ..... calculated points. The main thing is that they always hit .. on these very ... points.
      2. Vlad69
        Vlad69 18 November 2021 08: 00
        +5
        Well, yes, it was necessary for the current, American, for example, it was to shy away. So to speak, in a situation as close as possible to a combat one, there is nowhere further. And say that the mistake came out.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 18 November 2021 07: 50
    0
    The increased attention to the latest news is understandable. A promising anti-satellite complex is of great importance for our defense, and in addition, it is capable of confusing the plans of a potential adversary.
    Everything is correct. The army, not even a probable enemy, an outright enemy, seeks to get hold of a real advantage of its reconnaissance / strike systems in outer space ... this is not some kind of news, these are real facts.
    Russian defenses need effective countermeasures!
    The same fight of the sword / spear against the shield !!! and no matter in what form, the main thing is that it would be effective.
  14. Evil troll
    Evil troll 18 November 2021 08: 01
    +4
    Judging by the ultrasqueal of the Americans, they treasured and valued this old Soviet satellite very much.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 18 November 2021 09: 08
      -4
      Judging by the ultrasqueal of the Americans, they treasured and valued this old Soviet satellite very much.
      Used in long-term rent repeat , and on their own shuttles since the 90s, they washed cosmic dust with a rag, and made corrections every year, so caringly and loving this orbital reconnaissance agent of the Mighty Union !!! fellow And now he was ... after all, they shot down, took away the "museum toy" ... crying
  15. Intruder
    Intruder 18 November 2021 08: 53
    -2
    And here are our eyes:
    Early warning radar 14TS031 with digital adaptive phased array (source - Annual report for 2013). In 2011, the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern developed working design documentation for the 1st stage for the 14TS031 radar complex and a project of functional software. In July 2012, a competition was announced to conclude a state contract for the development of the 14TS031 product - an early warning radar of the 14TS033 missile defense system (source).
    In 2012, at the location of the Danube-3U / 20Yu6 radar near the town of Chekhov near Moscow, dismantling of the SRS-62 radar of the Danube-3U radar complex began (contractor - NPP Pyramida, contract No. 06/478 dated 15.10.2112. 14 with the Almaz-Antey air defense concern, source) in order to prepare for the deployment of the 031TS61 radar and the modernization of the SRS-20 complex 6Yu2013 began (source). In 14, the Almaz-Antey air defense concern completed the development of working design documentation and manufactured installation batches of the main functionally completed units of the 031TS2013 radar with a digital adaptive phased array (source - Annual report for 14). Manufacturing of equipment units for the 031TS2014 product was carried out in 2014, including jointly with JSC "Radiofizika" for R&D Interchange ". According to the development work" Decoupling-RF ", work was carried out to create a specialized radar for monitoring outer space for the detection and tracking of small space objects (source). c for product 14Ts031 on the subject of midrange ROC "Decoupling-Pyramid-TsM" RPE "Pyramida" OJSC IAC "Vympel" was connected





    Antenna field AFAR of the transmitting part of SRLS-61 after modernization, Chekhov, 2013

    To target this "evil hornet":
    Combat equipment:
    A maneuvering interceptor equipped with a multiple-launch propulsion system with a control system that allows intercepting an AES on a head-on or overlapping course on the ascending part of its own flight path.
    Warhead types:
    - nuclear;
    - usual, kinetic;
    hi
  16. wlkw
    wlkw 18 November 2021 09: 06
    0
    [quote = abrakadabre] [quote
    There is also a technical side. A satellite capable of performing not just maneuvering, but energetic anti-aircraft maneuvers, must have energy that is crazy by the standards of a spacecraft - a powerful engine and bottomless reserves of fuel. [/ quote]

    Powerful energy is required when the inclination of the orbit is changed, and if you "drive the altitude back and forth", then you do not need a lot of fuel, too. Has risen 200 meters, the fighter will already fly by, if it does not correct its orbit.
    1. Flank
      Flank 18 November 2021 17: 23
      +1
      Two hundred meters? How do anti-aircraft missiles hit? There is also a funnel of balls in a sector, for example, 120 degrees. Here, too, the striking elements should scatter widely when approaching the target.
      1. wlkw
        wlkw 18 November 2021 22: 07
        +1
        Will the density of the fragments be enough?
        And in general it is written about "It is believed that to intercept orbital targets, the Nudol complex should use a specially designed missile with a combat stage in the form of a homing kinetic interceptor.", Which implies the absence of detonation.
        Although you can combine.
    2. svoroponov
      svoroponov 18 November 2021 18: 24
      +1
      Ion engines have a very low mass, but already a good impulse in terms of power. Russia has them.
  17. kosicina-1mail.ru
    kosicina-1mail.ru 18 November 2021 09: 15
    +1
    Good...
  18. Alexander X
    Alexander X 18 November 2021 11: 34
    0
    It is a pity that the gps system will not reach the grouping of satellites. There, however, approx. 20200 km orbital altitude.
    Well, since the adversaries are screaming, it means that our military did everything right, proving that we can shoot down satellites, and if necessary, we will.
  19. Hitriy Zhuk
    Hitriy Zhuk 18 November 2021 12: 25
    0
    Quote: prior
    If you want space to be peaceful, organize the removal of waste from the ball bearing industry into orbit. laughing
    Better for different ...


    At every steel mill, a centrifuge (they wrote here about such, like yesterday) for launching into orbit?
  20. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 18 November 2021 14: 00
    +2
    Great news. We just made it clear to the whole world, we are not PR, we just showed the world what we have and it works !!!!!
  21. Strannik_GO
    Strannik_GO 18 November 2021 15: 04
    +1
    This is how it is necessary to bring to the public opinion that Russia is catching up - "It should be noted that similar anti-satellite systems already exist abroad, which have been tested by real firings. In 2007-2008, China and the United States tested their missiles, and in 2019 similar tests took place in India. " - propaganda, she is such propaganda ...
    1. Flank
      Flank 18 November 2021 17: 26
      0
      Propaganda is Peresild, and in this case a knight's move. And in general, how do you think this text should be written? That since China and India managed to cope with it earlier, the zero didn’t get through and didn’t fly?
    2. svoroponov
      svoroponov 18 November 2021 18: 33
      +1
      Russia has nothing to catch up. Anti-satellite weapons were tested in the USSR back in the 60-70s. There have been problems for a long time.
    3. B1 Lanser
      B1 Lanser 20 November 2021 17: 53
      -1
      The USA did this trick back in 2008! And Russia only 13 years later tested anti-satellite weapons! I wonder how Russian patriots will comment on this gigantic abyss? There is a clear technical rejection of the Russian Federation from the West, no matter who would say it!
  22. Put__NIK
    Put__NIK 18 November 2021 19: 17
    -1
    Well, if ours decided to bang on public display, then what they banged out of is outdated and there is something new for which amendments and improvements will be made.
    Now they can score their military project X-51 of the combat shuttle in one place.
    Therefore, so much screeching as it will hurt to score, but taking into account their tolerance, they will like it.
  23. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 19 November 2021 09: 07
    -1
    Quote: Stas157
    ... The Russian Defense Ministry did not elaborate on the details of the recent tests, and the foreign press tries to do it for him

    Yes. The news came from there. What the Ministry of Defense reports is news only for those who categorically do not believe the foreign press. The Defense Ministry only confirms Western news and does not deny details.

    ... Official information appeared the next day, November 16. The Russian Defense Ministry announced the successful defeat of an orbital target

    Have you noticed how actively the clack is minus ?!
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 November 2021 09: 13
    -1
    So, in the end, the Russian Federation has mastered the kinetic interception of targets in space?
    1. B1 Lanser
      B1 Lanser 20 November 2021 17: 52
      -1
      The USA did this trick back in 2008! And Russia only 13 years later tested anti-satellite weapons! I wonder how Russian patriots will comment on this gigantic abyss? There is a clear technical rejection of the Russian Federation from the West, no matter who would say it!
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 20 November 2021 19: 06
        0
        There are a lot of pitfalls …… The USA made all their missile defense hits in the laboratory mode. With all the input data: from where-to-where-the speed-when will fly: where it is needed …… ..but the kinetic interception is cool.
  25. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 19 November 2021 09: 13
    -1
    Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
    Inflation is almost 9%, the average pension is 16 thousand What is more important? Like a balance of interests.?

    Very many have a pension of about 12000 rubles. (including surcharge!) ...
    At the moment, klaka has set 33 minuses! Clearly, however ...
  26. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 19 November 2021 09: 16
    -1
    Quote: neri73-r
    I did not evade anywhere, it was just that from your first post it was not clear where you were from, judging by the statement, I thought that from abroad, therefore, at our expense, the phrase was! Remember the famous - against Russia, on the rubble of Russia and at the expense of Russia... So the freebie goes by on the sly for them. But you dodged the answer - so that we will be sawing guns in retirement? Will we cut and distribute everything, as in the best nonsense of liberalism? Nobody is going to attack us?!? And what about the coronavirus and deaths, where is the connection with the guns? Huh?

    Are you by any chance talking about your masters ?! winked
  27. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 19 November 2021 09: 22
    -1
    Quote: svoroponov
    You can, of course, consider your pension and the standard of living corresponding to it. But if you now raise the standard of living to the maximum, then your descendants may no longer have any standard of living at all, like the Russian state. But maybe you have no descendants, maybe your great-grandfathers or grandfathers fought not on our side or sat in the rear, maybe they were at odds with the law and instead of protecting the Fatherland they sat in camps, then the principle is right for you, After me, at least the grass does not grow ,,. But you know what the matter is,the overwhelming majority of real Russian Citizens are against this principle!

    And maybe without demagoguery ?! Are you not afraid that with the current development of events (which people like you are defending with foam at the mouth) it will turn out exactly "that your descendants may no longer have any standard of living at all like the Russian state" ?!
    1. svoroponov
      svoroponov 19 November 2021 20: 46
      -1
      There is no demagoguery. We do not create problems for the world, we only answer. And also in relation to the Americans - There is no reception against scrap if there is no second scrap. They understand this well. So we will develop and they have already begun to degrade, this is an objective law of the existence and collapse of empires like states. New centers of power have appeared in the face of China (and in the future India). I know what I am talking about. The only thing is that, out of powerlessness, a cornered rat can rush. This is me about the Americans. But then it's better to die together. Although from the size of the Russian State, we have a greater chance of surviving than theirs. And yet, the UK is subject to DESTROY FIRST. All the stench and troubles in the direction of Russia go from there.
      1. B1 Lanser
        B1 Lanser 20 November 2021 17: 52
        -1
        The USA did this trick back in 2008! And Russia only 13 years later tested anti-satellite weapons! I wonder how Russian patriots will comment on this gigantic abyss? There is a clear technical rejection of the Russian Federation from the West, no matter who would say it!
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 20 November 2021 19: 08
          0
          You have to surrender ... ...
  28. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 19 November 2021 09: 29
    -1
    Quote: Cosm22
    Quote: novel xnumx
    how else to experience? first on a simple target, hit - go to the next level

    And the next level for the target is the ISS itself?

    Ahead ...
  29. Torp20
    Torp20 19 November 2021 18: 03
    0
    India conducted tests below the ISS orbit by 100 km, the Americans are higher by 100 km of the orbit, Russia is almost in the ISS orbit - dibelism, I do not even feel sorry for the cosmonauts.
    1. svoroponov
      svoroponov 19 November 2021 20: 52
      -1
      Ours were hitting the dogon, so the scattering of fragments is minimal. Do not consider military suckers. They probably calculated and simulated everything 100 times based on the data on the Americans and the Chinese, according to the result of their tests. Well, the cosmonauts just practiced their actions in case of an emergency leaving the station.
  30. mediumpro
    mediumpro 19 November 2021 21: 30
    -1
    I would like not to stop there, but to use such weapons .... The West decided to raise the stakes, so ... the Russian Federation should make them even higher .... At a time when the United States openly declares the destruction of the Russian Federation, an answer is needed .... bring the situation to the point of truth ..... Well, let's shoot a dagger at the rate of the aircraft carrier group .... 500 meters from them .... Well, of course, having warned in advance according to all world standards .... Interesting , when entering the water on hypersound, will the wave be big? More aggressively, the RF Ministry of Defense ... help Lavrov solve difficult issues.
  31. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 20 November 2021 09: 28
    0
    Quote: svoroponov
    There is no demagoguery ... We do not create problems for the world, we only answer. And also in relation to the Americans - There is no reception against scrap if there is no second scrap. They understand this well. So we will develop and they have already begun to degrade, this is an objective law of the existence and collapse of empires like states. New centers of power have appeared in the face of China (and in the future India). I know what I am talking about. The only thing is that, out of powerlessness, a cornered rat can rush. This is me about the Americans. But then it's better to die together. Although from the size of the Russian State, we have a greater chance of surviving than theirs. And yet, the UK is subject to DESTROY FIRST. All the stench and troubles in the direction of Russia go from there.

    Alas, your writing is really the purest demagoguery. And all "troubles from there" for us have a secondary meaning in comparison with troubles "from here"!
    1. svoroponov
      svoroponov 22 November 2021 11: 44
      0
      If I have demagoguery, then everything that is written here also has it. It’s time to close the discussion, what is it that makes her.
  32. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 20 November 2021 09: 31
    0
    Quote: svoroponov
    Ours were hitting the dogon, so the scattering of fragments is minimal. Do not consider military suckers. They probably calculated and simulated everything 100 times based on the data on the Americans and the Chinese, according to the result of their tests. Well, the cosmonauts just practiced their actions in case of an emergency leaving the station.

    I would be sincerely glad if everyone who checked in behind such a variant of the tests would be practiced personally during and after they were carried out ...
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  34. B1 Lanser
    B1 Lanser 20 November 2021 17: 51
    -2
    The USA did this trick back in 2008! And Russia only 13 years later tested anti-satellite weapons! I wonder how Russian patriots will comment on this gigantic abyss? There is a clear technical rejection of the Russian Federation from the West, no matter who would say it!
    1. svoroponov
      svoroponov 22 November 2021 11: 56
      0
      Why comment on that. As far back as the USSR, anti-satellite weapons were developed in the 60-70s. Back in the 70-80s, Nudol shot down the heads of ballistic missiles in lower orbit. And how they differ from low-orbit satellites, but practically nothing, they are even more difficult to intercept than a satellite in a stationary orbit, since in that phase they are already starting to decline. This time, attention was tested, a mobile ground option and the defeat was carried out not on a head-on course, but in pursuit, which speaks of the size and powerful energy of the rocket itself, since such a defeat is more difficult.
      For the Americans. They were able to lock the target and enter data for interception only on the third orbit of the satellite's flight from the start of guidance to the launch of the rocket. That is, if the satellite maneuvered at least a little, the interceptor would not have destroyed it. And another question, this satellite was destroyed by a direct hit or by detonating an interceptor to try to destroy the satellite with shrapnel. The interception was carried out where the space tracking equipment of Russia does not reach and it is not possible now in a cloud of interceptor fragments to determine whether the satellite itself was hit
  35. Jora bayramow
    Jora bayramow 26 November 2021 08: 06
    0
    Today it is an advanced technology. But the future of air defense and missile defense belongs to super-powerful railguns that can, in the blink of an eye, launch small-sized smart missiles into Earth's orbit and powerful lasers. It will be very reliable. I wrote about this in my book "I am an Earthling".