Combat aircraft. When the horns are not a hindrance

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Combat aircraft. When the horns are not a hindrance

The Polish aircraft industry ... this is usually a reason for smiles. Yes, once there the Poles tried to portray something like that, but since in the First World War there was no Poland yet, and in the Second World War it ended very quickly, then, accordingly, there seems to be nothing to talk about.

However, the Poles built airplanes, and, what is most interesting, they sometimes succeeded. Yes, the balcony-carrying Zubr was not a masterpiece, and the Karas was not perfect, but who can say that the Elk was a bad plane?



Yes, the bomber did not play a significant role in that war, but, excuse me, its peers SB, too, in the Red Army Air Force ended more than quickly.

And as the plane "Los" was not just at the world level, it was a very progressive plane. And it was not his fault that the command of the Polish army gave up so quickly and rushed to flee the country.

So let's take a look at Elk, which was surprisingly quite modern. A monoplane with retractable landing gear, metal covering of the wings and fuselage, closed cockpits - why not a modern aircraft for the second half of the 30s?


By the time the Second World War began, which began in Europe with the German attack on Poland, everyone who needed it knew firsthand about the Los. The plane managed to visit two aviation exhibitions in Belgrade and Paris. Both "Los" were impressed with their characteristics, and the PZL company was inundated with orders.

Many countries, as expected, wanted to have a bomber in service that flew at a speed of 445 km / h and with a bomb load of 2500 kg. Such a machine made it possible to solve many tasks on the battlefield, especially considering the fact that at that time there were not very many fighters in the world capable of catching up with the Elk.

And in comparison with the former at that time the main bomber of the Polish Air Force, the Dutch licensed version of the Fokker FVIIb-3m, it was generally a masterpiece. And it would be quite logical to replace the old slow three-engined Dutchman with a completely modern aircraft with a bunch of design innovations.


And in the company PZL ("Panstwowe Zaklady Lotnicze") work began to boil.

Work began in the second half of 1934, and in 1936 the first flying prototype was ready. A 9-cylinder air-cooled "star" Bristol "Pegasus" XIIB with a capacity of 860 hp was chosen as the power plant. with. The screws were Hamilcar-Standard. Both engines and propellers were produced in Poland under a British license.

The landing gear struts were retracted back and hydraulically into the niches, the tail speed crutch was also replaced with a non-retractable wheel. The racks were not fully retracted, the wheels protruded from the niches by about half. It was believed that it would be better for a forced landing "on the belly."

The aircraft carried a very decent amount of fuel, which provided a good range. The fuel was housed in two 118-liter tanks located in the engine nacelles, in two 242-liter wing tanks and one 780-liter fuselage tank behind the cockpit.

The crew consisted of three people. The pilot, who is also the crew commander, the navigator-bombardier, whose place was in the nose of the aircraft, which provided aiming and dropping of bombs, and the radio operator, who was located in a separate open cockpit at the trailing edge of the wing.


The radio operator was supposed to defend the upper and lower hemispheres with two 37 mm KW Wz.7,92 machine guns, which were based on Browning models. The machine guns were fed from disks, the stock of cartridges was 1700 pieces.

The bomb bays held 2600 kg. The usual load consisted of 20 bombs weighing 50 or 110 kg, but it was possible to hang 2 bombs of 300 kg and fill the remaining space with small fragmentation bombs of 10 kg.

On July 1, 1936, the first flight of the "Elk" took place. The plane was not devoid of "childhood" illnesses and shortcomings, but the manufacturer promised to fix everything in the shortest possible time. Indeed, the main shortcomings were eliminated and soon the PZL company received an official order for 30 bombers with Pegasus XIIB engines, which, in addition to the P.37A index, received their own name “Los A”.

The cockpits of the pilot and the gunner were expanded, the engines were installed more powerful, "Pegasus" XX with 925 hp, but most importantly, the shape of the tail was changed. Now it has become two-keel. This made it possible to solve two problems at once: to remove unwanted vibrations and to improve the shooter's view. In addition, a fourth crew member was added: an arrow to the ventral machine gun mount. This was very reasonable, one shooter could not simultaneously protect both the upper and lower hemispheres.


Changed the landing gear: they became two-wheeled, but with a smaller diameter. Now it was possible to sit down safely if one of the wheels was damaged. In addition, since the wheels became of smaller diameter, they were completely retracted into a niche, which had a favorable effect on aerodynamics and gave a speed increase of 6 km / h.

"Los A" actually became the prototype of the production aircraft, which received the index RZ7V "Los B". The plane went into production and by 1939 the Polish Air Force wanted to have 30 Los A units as training and 150 Los B units as the main medium bombers.

In the spring of 1938, the third version of the aircraft was ready, with the French engine Gnome-Rhone 14N, and on its basis it was planned to create export versions "Los S" and "Los D".

In 1938, he began to enter the combat units. The first to go to the troops were "Los A" and "Los A bis". The plane's debut turned out to be discouraging: within two months, 9 planes crashed. The cause was a loss of control caused by rebalancing of the rudder. The steering wheel was changed and the problem was resolved.

"Los" turned out to be a very promising machine, both in terms of use in the Polish Air Force, and in terms of sales to everyone, which turned out to be quite a few. Work on the creation of the export version was carried out constantly, because making money on a successful car is a pleasure. The Polish Air Force wouldn't buy many cars anyway, so why not arm its neighbors too?

Projects of an aircraft with Gnome-Ron engines were considered. "Los S" was planned to be equipped with a G14N01 engine with a capacity of 957 liters. with. The design speed with them could be 460 km / h. "Elk D" with engines "Gnome-Ron" GR 14N21 with a capacity of 1035 hp. with. according to calculations, it could accelerate to a fantastic 490 km / h at that time.

The combat range (calculated) with a bomb load of 2200 kg of these aircraft was, respectively, 1450 and 1600 km. And it could have continued! If we reduce the number of bombs on board to 1760 kg and take an additional supply of fuel into the tank installed in the bomb bay, then the range figures increased to 2600 and 2700 km, respectively.

The prototype P.14 / III was accelerated to a speed of 21 km / h in real-life tests with 37N453 Gnome-Ron motors. An excellent result for that time, considering that in fact the same age as the "Los", the Soviet I-15bis gave out 390 km / h, and the newest German Bf.109В about 460 km / h.


And the shows at the salons, coupled with the test results, did not keep customers waiting long. The first could have been the Spaniards, who ordered 50 Los S planes, but the Spanish Civil War broke out and European countries imposed an arms embargo. The contract was terminated.

But in 1939, the process began.
Yugoslavia has ordered 10 aircraft of the "D" version.
Bulgaria ordered 15 aircraft of the same modification.
Turkey decided to buy 10 aircraft and assemble 15 more on its own, under a license.
Romania wanted 30 aircraft.
Greece has ordered 12 bombers.


In addition, Finland, Belgium, Denmark and Estonia wanted to acquire the assembly license. Since the capacities of Polish factories did not allow the production of "Los" in such quantities, licensed production was welcomed.

It is clear that all plans collapsed on September 1, 1939. And all the treaties burned out in the fire of the outbreak of the war. The only ones who received the Elks were the Romanian Air Force. But these were not the ones ordered by Romania, but Polish planes that flew to the territory of the neighboring country.

But even in Poland itself, everything was not entirely ideal in terms of aircraft production. He clearly lagged behind the schedule, as they say now, "shifted to the right." At the beginning of the war, the units had about 90 combat-ready aircraft.


A small nuance: the "Browning" machine gun KM Wz.37 was not brought to mind, and it was decided to arm the "Elk" with obsolete but mastered machine guns "Vickers F" British design.

When the hostilities began, many aircraft were at various stages of readiness at the factories in Mielec and Warsaw, but the war turned out to be so fleeting that they simply did not have time to finish building them.

By that time, a training unit was formed in the Polish Air Force, where the pilots were trained using the "Los A" and "Los A bis" of the first issues.

The first two days of the war, "Losi" were not involved in combat missions, being in the reserve of the high command. Finally, on September 3, the crews were tasked with attacking Konigsberg. The flight was canceled, and the P.37 made its debut only the next day, September 4, 1939. Three nines "Losyi" made two raids on German units in the Lodz area.

According to the Polish side, the Germans suffered significant damage. In two raids, 7 aircraft were lost, mainly from the actions of the army air defense. The Germans burned two more cars as a result of the attack on the airfield in Kuchiny.


The Poles over and over again made the same mistake that the commanders of the Red Army Air Force will make in less than 2 years: daytime raids without fighter cover. The Messerschmitts were quietly reaping the harvest in the skies of Poland, and the Losi could only oppose the fire of single rifle-caliber machine guns.

So a pair of "Messers" on September 6 calmly shot down three of the six "Elks" flying to bomb the Germans near the city of Radomsko.

"Blitzkrieg" struck not only the Polish units, it also struck the command of the Polish Army, which was poorly guided in the situation and could not really determine the direction of attacking the advancing German units.

In such an environment, Polish pilots continued to fly out with bombs, although it was clear that all this was useless, and everything fell into the chaos of defeat.

The last sorties "Losi" made on September 16, attacking the Germans near Hrubieszow and at Wlodawa.

In total, during that fleeting war, Polish bombers dropped about 150 tons of bombs on the Germans. The shooters shot down six Messerschmitts. Losses on the ground and in the air were 24 aircraft shot down in the air and 2 were lost on the ground. Obviously, such a difference is more than eloquent testimony to the heroism of the Polish pilots, who stubbornly flew out to bomb the Germans without fighter cover. And, frankly, there was no defense of my own.


Two planes ended up in the USSR, they also got there by flight. It is quite natural that the "Elk" was sent to the Air Force Flight Research Institute, where test pilots P.M. Stefanovsky, M.A. Nyukhtikov and AM Khripkov, navigator P.I. Passes. Engineer M.I. Panyushkin.

In the reports of the test team it was said that “P.37 ... is distinguished by good stability in all flight modes and allows flight with completely abandoned manual control at a cruising speed of 270-280 km / h. The piloting technique ... is simpler than that of the DB-3 aircraft and slightly worse than that of the SB. "

The test pilots noted the excellent aerodynamics of the aircraft. It was thanks to her that the "Los" developed a speed equal to the speed of the DB-3 and SB. However, the bomb load of the Polish aircraft was significantly higher than that of the Soviet bombers.

In addition, the entire bomb load of the R.37 was located inside the fuselage and did not spoil the aerodynamics. Yes, "Los" could not take on board bombs over 300 kg. But Soviet bombers, if they carried bombs weighing 500 kg, then on external suspensions. SB carried two, one could be placed in a bomb bay, DB-3 could carry 3 bombs of 500 kg or 1 in 1000 kg on the external sling.

And the suspension of bombs of this weight from the outside clearly entailed a decrease in speed. The only drawback of the R.37 can be considered a low altitude, which was due to the Pegasus motors. But the Pegasus had other strengths.

If we compare the R.37 with the German Ju.88A-1 and Do.215B, which were purchased in Germany in 1940 and studied at the Air Force Research Institute and the Soviet SB, then we can say with confidence that the R.37 was on the same level.

Possessing approximately equal capabilities of defensive weapons, the R-37 surpassed all in terms of bomb load and flight range. The Pegasus motors, although they did not have a high altitude, were extremely tenacious and more reliable than the German liquid-cooled motors.

In fact, the Ju.88A1 had one, but a very significant advantage: the aircraft was able to bomb from a dive, and it did it very accurately. The rest of the "Los" was no worse.

It should be admitted that the "Los" turned out to be a very decent combat vehicle with impressive potential for development.


When Poland surrendered, more than 200 aircraft of the Polish Air Force were at the Romanian airfields. Among this number were 30 R.37, 29 units "Los B" and 1 "Los A". Polish pilots were sent to Iran, to the British mission in the Middle East, and the Romanians, as expected, kept the aircraft for themselves.

The career of "Los" among the Romanians is not that it did not work out, rather, it went as expected. Two squadrons were equipped with aircraft, and the Romanian pilots began to master the new technology. Four Romanian planes were shot in accidents and four more crashed outright during forced landings.

Of course, the planes went to the Romanians with a fairly developed resource, but the "skill" of the Romanian pilots should not be discounted. In general, the Romanian crews of the Losyi considered themselves a “suicide team” for a reason. They did it.

The premiere of Elks for the Romanian Air Force took place on June 22, 1941, when nine R.37s with yellow identification crosses flew to bomb Soviet ships in Odessa.

Did not work out. Three I-153 and fourteen I-15bis of the Black Sea Air Force were raised to intercept Romanian aircraft. fleet... Soviet fighters shot down five Elks, the rest were able to escape. Our pilots had no losses.

In general, the Romanians continued their raids on Odessa, taking advantage of the fact that the Soviet aviation was more than passive, not recovering from the losses of the first days, the effectiveness of the application was below average. The losses of the Romanian Air Force suffered not so much from the actions of the Red Army Air Force or the Air Defense Force, but from the fact that there were no spare parts for the aircraft. Therefore, already in October 1941, all the Losi were recalled back to Romania.

Half of the remaining aircraft were simply dismantled for parts to maintain the other half of the aircraft in combat condition.

The Elks were remembered once again when the Red Army reached the borders of Romania and the case smelled of kerosene. But after several sorties, accompanied by technical problems, the Losi were finally decommissioned and transferred to training units.


In general, story bomber P.37 "Los" is very sad in its essence. The creation of the designer Jiri Dobrovsky was advanced in 1935, obsolete in 1941 and finally turned into a historical airplane garbage 10 years after the first flight.

Meanwhile, this aircraft for some time even became a reference point for many designers in terms of approach to the principles of creating modern bombers. Its speed qualities and, most importantly, the range and amount of bomb load.

So the R-37 is an aircraft that was a stage in the development of bomber aviation not only in Europe, but also in the world. He could have become a very, very successful aircraft of his time, but he was not lucky. Therefore, its place in history is the best bomber created in Poland.

LTH P-37B
Wingspan, m: 17,93
Length, m: 12,92
Height, m: 5,10
Wing area, sq.m: 53,51

Weight, kg
- empty aircraft: 4 280
- normal takeoff: 8 580

Engines: 2 x Bristol Pegasus XX x 925 HP
Maximum speed km / h: 430
Cruising speed, km / h: 348
Practical range, km
- with maximum load: 1500
- maximum: 2600
Speed, m / min: 285
Practical ceiling, m: 7 000

Crew, prs: 4

Armament: three 7,7 mm machine guns in the bow, dorsal and ventral positions;
Bomb load - up to 3000 kg
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  1. +14
    21 November 2021 06: 24
    I recommend, http: //www.airwar.ru/enc/bww2/pzl37.html
    https://warfor.me/samolet-pzl-37-los/
    there is not so much Russian-language literature about this aircraft
    mostly in Polish. But in principle, almost everything is clear.



    I learned about the fact that such an aircraft was in 1984, when I was lucky enough to buy this model in Stargard-Szczecin.

    Later, probably in 1985 or 86, I don’t remember exactly, in Szczecin I bought the first book about "Elk". of course in Polish ... good
    1. +8
      21 November 2021 07: 02
      Yes, there was a normal plane. He didn't take the stars from the sky, but he didn't pass the back ones either. The middle one. Its pluses, its minuses. Of the minuses, the main one is "if the war had delayed" ...
      The author notes a mistake in bombing without fighter escort, as the Poles with fighters, namely, the failure came out - the P11 and P24 were inferior in speed, the "falcon" was just beginning to assemble at the factory, and the "devuatins" purchased in France did not have time to arrive by the beginning of the war ...
      That's the whole alignment. One hope was - as in Spain in the SB to try to break away from the enemy, only the "messers" were no longer the same ...
      1. +5
        21 November 2021 13: 21
        This plane was very good for its time, although its main advantage - speed (higher than that of Polish linear fighters at that time) - was somehow accidental.
        Yes, it had clean aerodynamic forms, but the main culprit - the new wing profile developed by Dombrowski - sometimes exaggeratedly called quasi-laminar - was created when the designer had to lengthen it so that 300 kg of bombs used by the Polish Air Force could fit between the beams. The results surprised the designers themselves and turned out to be higher than the calculated ones!

        At the same time, the glider was plagued by errors in the design of the wings, which led to several disasters, until the error was realized.

        Weak defensive armament or lack of protection for fuel tanks were characteristic of bombers in the second half of the 1930s.

        In the USSR, this aircraft was underestimated, mainly because the captured training PZL-37Abis with worn out engines was used for testing.

        And I do not quite understand the connection between the quality of the aircraft and the course of the war - this aircraft was successful at the world level, and the war was a defeat, and not due to the design of the PZL-37, during its course and losses. this plane.

        Ps. The P-24 was not used in Polish aviation, and the PZL-50 "Jastrząb" prototype was built before the war - unsuccessful, with parameters much lower than planned. The PZL-45 "Falcon" ended only with a mock-up - in any case, it was a representative of an unsuccessful light fighter concept, which even the Americans did not like (could not).
  2. +11
    21 November 2021 07: 10
    tail speed crutch was also replaced with a fixed wheel.
    laughing laughing laughing Masterpiece. It's still not in vain that I decided to read this opus out of nothing to do. laughing I learned something new about aviation, and indeed - tail speed crutch it sounds! good laughing laughing laughing So I recommend it to cheer up. if suddenly about Ukraine or anything today will not be. laughing laughing laughing
    1. AUL
      +6
      21 November 2021 10: 02
      Quote: Fitter65
      Here's something new about aviation I learned and in general - the tail speed crutch it sounds!

      laughing He also smiled when he read it! Well, sometimes the text is poorly read. Of course, soon!
      And the article is interesting, thanks to the author. I heard about Elk before, but without any particular details.
      1. +7
        21 November 2021 10: 10
        Quote from AUL
        And the article is interesting, thanks to the author. I heard about Elk before, but without any particular details.

        Interesting article on "Corner of Heaven", and this is her pathetic correspondence.
        1. 0
          25 November 2021 17: 05
          pitiful correspondence.
          Right now, in the comments they will polish Yes
  3. +8
    21 November 2021 07: 39
    On the second prototype P.37 / II, the previous comments were taken into account on the slipway. The cockpit and gunner were expanded, and the engine was installed more powerful - "Pegasus" XX (925 hp). But the most important difference of "Elk" under number "2" was the new two-finned plumage. So they got rid of vibrations and at the same time improved the view back to the arrow. At the suggestion of the head of the chassis brigade Pyotr Kubitsky, the main struts were made with two-wheeled tires with smaller diameter tires.
    This is in the original article on "Corner of Heaven". But I still decided to read Romin's opus
    The bomb bays held 2600 kg. The usual load consisted of 20 bombs weighing 50 or 110 kg, but it was possible to hang 2 bombs of 300 kg and fill the remaining space with small fragmentation bombs of 10 kg.
    This nonsense from our reprint, but this is how it was in the original
    A characteristic feature of the R-37 was the placement of the entire bomb load (up to 2595 kg) in the internal bomb compartments. This did not spoil the aerodynamics of the aircraft. Bomb bays were arranged in the fuselage - for bombs of a caliber of 300 kg, and in the root parts of the wing, where bombs of a smaller caliber - 50 or 100 kg - were suspended. The researchers, describing the layout of the bomber weapons in the report, did not give it either a positive or negative assessment, but noted it as a feature of the aircraft. The reason for this neutral attitude was that, despite the obvious advantages, the scheme inherent in the Elk also had a disadvantage - the inability to take large-caliber bombs, which have the greatest destructive power.
    Do you feel the difference? In short, I didn’t read further, for I’m having fun and that was enough, and already "tail speed crutch"This is, in my opinion, the phrase of the week at least for today. laughing laughing laughing good
    1. +6
      21 November 2021 08: 20
      Corner of Heaven is a great site. When I want to clarify something about aviation, I always use it. There really are specialists working.
      1. +7
        21 November 2021 09: 50
        There, really, specialists work.

        https://royallib.com/genre/transport_i_aviatsiya/ загляните в журналы "Авиация и Время" именно1990-2005 годы . Интернета не было, а спецы ещё были живы. Большинство статей из них встретите на "Уголке неба" кусками или целиком слово в слово . Ещё там попадаются часто куски из фундаментального "Крылья люфтваффе " Грина в переводе Фирсова. Добротная старая работа и перевод без отсебятины.
        1. +7
          21 November 2021 09: 53
          I have an almost complete collection of "AiV"!
          Somewhere from 1995 to the present. The last issue is not yet available.
          By the way, in reality, the last one - the editorial office was closed. It's a pity.
          1. +2
            21 November 2021 10: 18
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            I have an almost complete collection of "AiV"!
            Somewhere from 1995 to the present. The last issue is not yet available.
            By the way, in reality, the last one - the editorial office was closed. It's a pity.

            Yes, recently, aviation issues have been given less and less space there, and the result. And He began as an AeroHobby back in 1993 ... At one time he also bought it.
        2. +5
          21 November 2021 10: 13
          Quote: dauria
          take a look at the magazines "Aviation and Time" viz1990-2005. There was no Internet, and the specialists were still alive.

          In A&V, small magazine articles were printed, by specialists and people who were simply literate in their issue - who published books dedicated to a particular aircraft. On which they shoveled a bunch of materials.
          1. +4
            21 November 2021 10: 29
            Why small? Section "monograph" on the floor of the magazine!
            By the way, I have the first two issues of the magazine! A neighbor, a student of KIIGA, gave them to me. There they were handed out for advertising purposes. Incidentally, my passion for aviation began with them.
            1. 0
              21 November 2021 10: 44
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              Why small? Section "monograph" on the floor of the magazine!
              By the way, I have the first two issues of the magazine!

              Well, if you compare these "monographs" with the books that the authors of many monographs have written - then not great. And I don't remember how I got to the first issue, most likely I took it on Birch in Novosibirsk ...
      2. +3
        21 November 2021 17: 19
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Corner of Heaven is a great site. When I want to clarify something about aviation, I always use it. There really are specialists working.

        I also use it. But just not for clarification. There are enough storytellers there. By the way, where is our Damansky? I haven't counted his numbers for a long time.
  4. +2
    21 November 2021 07: 48

    This is a page from the "Aviation collection" 2/2007 PZL-37 bomber "Elk".
  5. +6
    21 November 2021 08: 13
    But Soviet bombers, if they carried bombs weighing 500 kg, then on external suspensions. SB carried two, one could be placed in the bomb bay,
    : Just imagine for a moment how the bomb suspension on the SB according to Skomorokhov will look like. I wonder in what state Roma was typing it: laughing
    For example, a 500 kg bomb was placed in the SB bomb bay, two more of the same were suspended on external holders.
    Well, this is the original, which is in the "Corner of Heaven". good
  6. +11
    21 November 2021 08: 33
    Three I-153 and fourteen I-15bis of the Black Sea Fleet Air Force were raised to intercept Romanian aircraft.
    The headquarters of the 21st mixed air division, taking into account the forward location of the 67th IAP, instructed the regiment command to "become a shield" for the entire grouping of the 9th Army in the Odessa direction. This was not done in vain, since the Romanians continued to try to carry out their plan. Nevertheless, the crews of the Romanian reconnaissance missions, who made several additional sorties, finally convinced the command of the seriousness of the intentions of the defenders of the Bulgarian airfield. At about 09:00, they again almost sent IAR-39 (tail number 84) from the 22nd squadron to the ground, the crew of which, with holes in their planes, managed to escape with great difficulty. Therefore, for the next attack, a reinforced detachment was prepared, which included Potez P.633 bombers from the 2nd air group and the PZL P.37 Elk from the 4th air group.
    The first to enter the target, at about 12:25 pm, were seven Potezes P.633 from the 74th Bomber Squadron, led by the commander of the 2nd group, Captain I. Cristescu, and the squadron commander, Captain G. Popescu. However, two nines I-16s from the 2nd and 3rd squadrons of the 67th IAP, led by Captains I.M. Artamonov and F.F. Chechulin, were already waiting for them.
    1. +11
      21 November 2021 08: 34
      Romanian planes dropped bombs on the Bolgrad airfield under construction, after which they immediately retreated along with 12 Heinkels He 112 escorts. Only two planes fell under the distribution and bombed the railway station - Soviet fighters managed to intercept and knock out one Potez (tail number 1), the crew of which made an emergency landing in the floodplains. The victory, most likely, was won in a pair of junior lieutenants M.G.Buzhenkov and A.E.Shirmanov. The most interesting moment concerns the disappearance of the Romanian fighters, thanks to which the 75th bomber squadron was defeated in a few minutes. Subsequently, the regiment's political officer, senior political instructor KN Myagkov, recalled: “During the analysis of the battle, we were puzzled by the behavior of enemy fighters covering the bombers. Noticing Artamonov's nine, they immediately disappeared and did not appear again ... ".
      Separately, it is worth mentioning the "hero of the battle over the Bulgarian" Lieutenant Theodore Mosca from the 51st Fighter Squadron. To this day, only the lazy has not described his "exploits", embodied in two shot down I-16s. It goes without saying that the He 112 pilots did not fight over the Bulgarian woman, they did not have any losses or victories, and Moscu was not even part of this group. He flew an hour later as part of the eight to escort IAR 37 aircraft from the 18th squadron and participated in the battle over Izmail against the I-153 and I-15bis from the 96th OIAE of the Air Force of the Danube Flotilla.
      While the Soviet pilots were trying to attack the seventh squadron seven, two links of the 74th squadron managed to reach the Bulgarian airfield and bombed out, and the first link, led by the squadron commander captain N. Balsh, first slipped through the airfield, and all three crews had to make a second run. Actually, this predetermined the defeat of the entire group. Almost immediately, the squadron's planes were attacked by Captain Chechulin's nine.
      1. +11
        21 November 2021 08: 34
        The first link, which was the last to leave the airfield, suffered the most. The leader's plane was shot down, both wingmen (aircraft with tail # 4 and # 13) were seriously damaged, and the first of them was completely destroyed on landing. In the second flight, the right wingman Potez was shot down (tail number 20, pilot S. Krakun), whose crew was killed. The left wingman (aircraft No. 17) was damaged, and only the lead aircraft of the flight returned to the base unharmed, apparently because it was the very first to leave the Bulgarian woman.
        The result of the battle in Soviet sources exactly corresponds to the Romanian data: “According to the report of Artamonov and Chechulin, four Junkers, having burst into flames, barely crossed the front line. They were wounded - the result of firing from long distances ... ". In this battle, the deputy commander of the 3rd squadron, Captain S.I.
        According to the plans of the Romanian command, the crews of the 4th Bomber Air Group under the cover of the Hurricanes from the 53rd Fighter Squadron were instructed to "complete the rout" of the airfields in the Bolgrad-Bulgarianka area. This group appeared over the Bulgarian woman at 13:30.
        1. +8
          21 November 2021 08: 35
          These pilots acted most professionally. The commander of the 76th squadron, Captain A. Stefanesku and his wingmen managed to hold the formation and drop bombs on the airfield. According to their report, Soviet fighters allegedly started attacking 5 minutes before the target, after crossing the border near the town of Măcin. The interaction of the Romanian bombers and escort fighters was organized at the proper level, and as a result, the six Hurricanes managed to tie up most of the I-16s in battle. Nevertheless, only one "Los" (tail number 77, pilot I. Kuluri) returned from the closing flight of the 210th squadron from this flight, the crew of which was counted as a consolation by the shot down I-16.
          Undoubtedly, the heroes of this flight were the crews of the six "Hurricanes" (leading lokotenent L. Toma, led aides-de-camp P. Cordescu, E. Kamenzeani, K. Popescu, K. Pomut, N. Kulzer). They failed to protect all the planes of the strike group, but they fought desperately and were able to inflict losses on the Soviet "colleagues" - two victories were declared by adjutants Cordescu and Pomut. The Soviet side admits losses in this battle - two I-16s were destroyed. Their pilots, Acting Deputy Regiment Commander Captain V.S.Nikiforov and Lieutenant I.F.Solganov, were wounded. Two days later, on June 24, Lieutenant Solganov died in the hospital.
          1. +11
            21 November 2021 08: 37
            However, the actual results of the bombing strike are not at all impressive. Even the Romanian crews themselves declared only six aircraft destroyed on the ground, but in reality the losses of the 67th IAP were even less. According to the regiment's documents, in just two raids, losses on the ground amounted to two I-16s, which received fragmentation and bullet holes. Another plane scooped up during takeoff due to falling into a poorly rolled bomb crater. Pilot Lieutenant Leontyev remained unharmed, the plane was broken. With all due respect to the crews of the Elks, it is more likely that the planes on the ground were damaged as a result of the strike of the Potez group of the 75th squadron. Applications for the victories of the pilots of the 1st and 4th squadrons of the 67th IAP and the actual number of downed the bombers in this episode coincide by almost 100%. Victories were declared by Lieutenant N.M. Ermak (personally), as well as junior lieutenants Ya. G. Kurochka and V.P. Khudoleev (in pairs).
            At the same time, Lieutenant Yermak's second victory in a day is no less remarkable than the first. This is what follows from the report of the senior engineer of the 21st mixed air division: "22.06.41/206/214 Lieutenant Ermak, gaining height above five bombers, began to hit their RS, as a result of which the aircraft violated their formation ...". This is the first documented case of the use of rockets in the Great Patriotic War. Apparently, because of the explosions of rockets, the Romanians considered that their "Losi" No. 14 (adjutant K. Vyrlan) and No. 00 (adjutant V. Nenescu) were shot down by anti-aircraft artillery fire. zone of responsibility or force them to retreat from forward airfields, but even inflict some serious damage. Actually, by 56:18 the Romanians had completed only 30 sorties by bombers, of which 8 fell on airfields in the Chisinau and Tiraspol regions, XNUMX on Bolgrad and Bolgarika and XNUMX on Izmail.
  7. +8
    21 November 2021 08: 55
    Apart from the plagiarism typical of this author (mainly from airwar.ru), I have not asked such a biased article containing distortions, stereotypes and inventions for a long time.
    I will not mention the funny mistakes that indicate a lack of understanding of the subject.

    The screws were "Hamilcar-Standard"


    wassat wassat
    1. -1
      21 November 2021 22: 21
      When Poland surrendered ...

      hi
      1. 0
        21 November 2021 22: 25
        Yes - that's one of the stupid things. The 1939 war ended in disaster, but the surrender itself was not
  8. TEM
    +2
    21 November 2021 09: 36
    2595 kg load in bomb bays !!! Yes, "Elk" in all parameters (except for the flight range and practical ceiling) was superior to the long-range IL-4 bomber! And this is on weaker engines !!!
    Flaws in the articles happen, you should not react too aggressively to this. The main thing is that the author drew attention to a very worthy aircraft, which had a chance to leave a more noticeable mark in
    history of war and aviation. To the author - an undoubted test !!!
    1. +9
      21 November 2021 10: 28
      Quote: TEM
      Flaws in the articles happen, you should not react too aggressively to this. The main thing is that the author drew attention to a very worthy aircraft,

      Can I ask you a question? Why there are no such flaws in the "Corner of Heaven", from where the author stole the material. And moreover, on that site, if people write an interesting article about an airplane, then they at least indicate the sources where the material was taken from. Something like this
      List of sources:
      Aircraft of the World. Konstantin Kosminkov. Bomber R-37 "Elk"
      Aircraft of the World. Sergey Kolov. "Elk" for the Polish Army
      Modeler-Constructor. S. Tsvetkov. In the shadow of great powers
      Maciej Stefanicki, Jacek Wojcik. Polish Konstrukcje Lotnicze do 1939
      Samoloty zbudowane w Panstwowych Zakladach Lotniczych do 1939r.
      Aviation and Time. Aircraft with white and red "checkers" (Polish Air Force until 1939)
      Andrzej Glass. Polish konstrukcje lotnicze 1893-1939
      Pawel Szczepaniec. Lotnictwo
      Type broni i uzbrojenia. Samolot bombowy PZL-37 "Los"
      Cristian Craciunoiu, Jean-Louis Roba. Aeronautica Romana in al Doilia razboi mondial

      and the photographs are signed, those that Roma had done with them, but for some reason he could not sign them.
      1. TEM
        +2
        21 November 2021 11: 45
        I agree 100%. This is already a question for the editorial office of the site. But, I will repeat, "The main thing is that the author has drawn attention to a very worthy aircraft ..." Your depth in the aviation theme is amazing!
        I have been speaking like a militarist since 1969 ...
        1. +3
          21 November 2021 15: 38
          Quote: TEM
          Your depth in the aviation theme is amazing!

          Thanks for the complement. but my knowledge in the aviation topic is closer to superficial. Just doing bench modeling, namely aviation, somehow obliges you to "read at least a little" about the aircraft you are building. Well, you have to look for "literature", photos, drawings ... It is a hobby laughing good hi
          1. TEM
            0
            15 January 2022 23: 00
            Do not be shy . Militarist - sounds proud !!! This is not an amateur!!! Exactly!!! This is a state of mind !!!!!!
            1. 0
              16 January 2022 02: 52
              Quote: TEM
              Do not be shy . Militarist - sounds proud !!! This is not an amateur!!! Exactly!!! This is a state of mind !!!!!!

              I beg your pardon, but where does the MILITARIST have to do with it? as far as I know, various dictionaries and encyclopedias confirm this
              Militarism is a state ideology, politics and mass psychology, which has the goal of building up the military power of the state and aggressive wars as the main tool of foreign policy.
              1. TEM
                0
                21 January 2022 19: 32
                How better to call a passionate about military subjects, and not dolls, thongs and perfumes?
  9. +8
    21 November 2021 10: 48
    Work began in the second half of 1934, and in 1936 the first flying prototype was ready. A 9-cylinder air-cooled "star" Bristol "Pegasus" XIIB with a capacity of 860 hp was chosen as the power plant. with. The screws were Hamilcar-Standard. Both engines and propellers were produced in Poland under a British license.
    ...
    Indeed, the main shortcomings were eliminated and soon the PZL company received an official order for 30 bombers with Pegasus XIIB engines, which, in addition to the P.37A index, received their own name, "Los A".
    The cockpits of the pilot and the gunner were expanded, the engines were installed more powerful, "Pegasus" XX with 925 hp, but most importantly, the shape of the tail was changed. Now it has become two-keel.
    ...
    "Los A" actually became the prototype of the production aircraft, which received the index P.Z7V

    In fact, everything was somewhat different.
    Two prototypes were built - prototyp P-37/1, 72.1 and prototyp P-37 / II, 72.2.


    The first prototype became the basis for ten production PZL.37A, and the second prototype - nineteen production PZL.37Abis. The aircraft were powered by Bristol Pegasus XIIB engines.
    Then the more powerful PZL Pegaz XX engines were installed on the PZL.37Abis. This main production modification was designated PZL.37B.
  10. +6
    21 November 2021 11: 57
    Great car for its time.
  11. +6
    21 November 2021 12: 35
    Quote: Fitter65
    This oohinea from our reprint


    Quote: Fitter65
    Masterpiece. It's still not in vain that I decided to read this opus out of nothing to do. laughing:


    Before you blame зеркало on the explicit slip of the author, it would be nice to teach the greatest and most powerful. Ohineya is it from the word oh.et? Masterpiece! (with) good
    1. +4
      21 November 2021 15: 42
      Quote: KSVK
      Before blaming the mirror for the author's blatant slip, it would be nice for the greatest and most powerful to teach it. Ohineya is it from the word oh.et? Masterpiece! (with)

      Well Achinea, okay? At least not Hamilcar screws, and not a tail speed crutch, and this is not a slip of the tongue, this is a confirmation that the author simply does not understand what he is rewriting. And this is from reprint to reprint every time. So there is nothing to blame me on the mirror, I do not rewrite articles from "Corner of Heaven", impudently and illiterately on VO. hi
      Another pearl of graceful words from Roma from this article
      Changed landing gear: they became two-wheeled, but with a smaller diameter.
      You read the proposal carefully. It turns out that the struts have become smaller in diameter, but two-wheeled !!!! Maybe, after all, the wheels have become smaller in diameter, and the struts are two-wheeled?
    2. -1
      22 November 2021 11: 59
      Quote: KSVK
      Ohineya is it from the word oh.et? Masterpiece! (with)

      It's like apofigey - a combination of two words. Because in one word to express the entire range of feelings from the article is unrealistic. smile
  12. +3
    21 November 2021 12: 49
    Oh, how many wonderful discoveries are being prepared for us!
  13. +8
    21 November 2021 16: 39
    It is unclear how our "Ishaks" chopped up a bunch of these "moose", having a speed of almost 100 km below ...
    This whole little article is Polish "ambition". The characteristics are clearly overestimated - and who tested them?
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  14. +7
    21 November 2021 17: 04
    Quote: Fitter65
    I do not rewrite articles from "Corner of Heaven", impudently and illiterately on VO.

    But I don’t read Corner of Heaven. And Topvar happens. Therefore, if something is written to me here, even if it was copied from somewhere, why not. And I, just like you, stumbled at this ... "speed". Then I thought of it. Everybody has problems. And with the rack you are right. But this is IMHO much better than the content of some of the articles published here. And there is absolutely no reason to be rude to the author. And I also read the comments to the articles.

    PS But in general, of course, spelling is lame on both legs. Both in the articles and in the comments. I am generally silent about the syntax. wassat
    1. 0
      22 November 2021 00: 00
      Quote: KSVK
      And I, just like you, stumbled at this ... "speed". Then I thought of it. Everybody has problems. And with the rack you are right. But this is IMHO much better than the content of some of the articles published here

      So articles are read not in order to think out what the author wanted to write, but to comprehend what he read. "Ochepyatki" they of course happen when instead of A you type O, or instead of L you jabbed your finger in D. But let's put it this way in the comments, it is quite understandable. We print the comments on a standard, to double-check it always turns out there is time. But in the article you are publishing here, you comprehend and have to check more than once before showing people, this should not be. Moreover, one thing is a typo, and a completely different technical ignorance, and even historical. At least read about Heinkel 117, where Roma's Focke-Wulf company produced seaplanes already in the First World War, and Heinkel's business went uphill in 1933, after WORLD SECOND. And so in almost every article about aviation. And to be honest, the content of other articles is not about aviation, about aviation, basically, one reporter lights up here, there are no others.
  15. +2
    21 November 2021 18: 15
    It looks like a DB-4f or IL-4 ...
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    2. +3
      21 November 2021 19: 58
      Then already on DB-3F
      1. 0
        22 November 2021 00: 01
        Quote: Lynnot
        Then already on DB-3F

        So DB-3f from March 1942 became known as IL-4. And it began to be produced in 1940. So DB-3F is more like "Elk" ...
    3. +2
      25 November 2021 17: 03
      Quote: Snail N9
      DB-4f

      Here it is, a typo drinks
  16. 0
    22 November 2021 12: 01
    And again, the article is written in the comments.
    T - Tradition.
  17. 0
    3 February 2022 19: 32
    An excellent result for that time, given that, in fact, the same age as the "Moose", the Soviet I-15bis gave out 390 km / h,


    Three I-153s and fourteen I-15bis of the Black Sea Fleet Air Force were raised to intercept Romanian aircraft. Soviet fighters shot down five "Moose", the rest were able to escape. Our pilots had no losses.

    Mr. Skomorokhov wrote the article for 2 days? Otherwise, how can you forget what you wrote a few paragraphs earlier? Or maybe he hopes that no one reads his articles?