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Ukraine's non-admission to NATO was explained by "lack of consensus"

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Ukraine's desire to join NATO will remain unfulfilled for a long time to come, since some countries that are members of the alliance simply do not want to see Ukraine as a member of this military-political bloc. According to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, there is no consensus in the alliance.


It was precisely the lack of consensus on Ukraine's possible NATO membership that Stoltenberg explained his endless promises to Kiev "about an early accession." According to him, it is unlikely that in the near future the countries entering the alliance will agree and invite Ukraine to become a full member of NATO.

In the meantime, despite the demands of Ukrainian President Zelensky to accept the country into the alliance, Brussels is getting off with general phrases of "support", the need for reforms in the army and the fight against corruption. It is necessary to say and promise something, because if they declare that NATO membership "does not shine" for Kiev for a long time, Ukraine may be "offended" and not let the US and NATO troops enter its territory. And so they promised - and here's a springboard for confronting "aggressive" Russia.

So the NATO secretary general will continue to declare support for "the sovereignty of Ukraine and its territorial integrity" for a long time to come. In Kiev, they also understand this, but they pass off these standard messages as a "breakthrough" and continue to feed the people with promises that "just about" happiness will come. But so far, in reality, Ukraine is not admitted to the alliance.

Recall that the country's entry into NATO and the European Union is spelled out in the Ukrainian constitution. Changes to the basic law of the state were made during the presidency of Petro Poroshenko. Zelenskiy also advocates for the European future of Ukraine, only now it is impossible to join there.
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  1. askort154
    askort154 15 November 2021 08: 09
    +9
    I remember it was the same with Georgia. But after 08.08. the topic of its admission to NATO has disappeared.
    Only donkeys follow the carrot on a stick.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 15 November 2021 08: 14
      +9
      Quote: askort154
      Only donkeys follow the carrot on a stick.

      It is a pity that he did not specify how many countries are against and which ones. Then Ukraine would have imposed some sanctions on them! )))
      1. askort154
        askort154 15 November 2021 08: 21
        +1
        Egoza ...It is a pity that he did not specify how many countries are against and which ones.

        Who wants to, because of Article 5, shed their blood for the country "at war with Russia for 7 years." Except for the "valiant warriors" of the Poles-Balts, no one dares. love
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 15 November 2021 09: 14
          +2
          Who wants because of article 5
          "I'm fine pah-pah-pah! Zelya drinks the damned! He says what a count! They didn't let the fifth one!" (Slightly paraphrased by Vladimir Semenovich) laughing
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 November 2021 09: 18
          +2
          Quote: askort154
          Except for the "valiant warriors" of the Poles-Balts, no one dares.

          And then in words, but in fact, not the Poles are not Balts, they will not even budge.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 15 November 2021 14: 55
            +1
            It is necessary to say and promise something, because if they declare that NATO membership "does not shine" for Kiev for a long time, Ukraine may be "offended" and not let the US and NATO troops enter its territory. And so they promised - and here's a springboard for confronting "aggressive" Russia.
            Very funny! Some comedian wrote this article! How can the lowest vassals, who exist at the expense of handouts and the support of the owners, "take offense" at their owners and "not let them into their territory"? No way! laughing
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 15 November 2021 15: 54
              +1
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Some humorist wrote this article! How can the lowest vassals, who exist at the expense of handouts and the support of the owners, "take offense" at their owners and "not let them into their territory"?

              The master will say one word through clenched teeth, and the vassals will shout "Yes! Master!"
              1. dzvero
                dzvero 15 November 2021 17: 22
                +1
                Yes, no-oh ... something else is coming - Ukraine will accept NATO in the ranks of the Armed Forces ... and they will never get out of it ...
      2. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 15 November 2021 09: 30
        +1
        Egoza hi, if you publish such a list, and FAIRLY, then everyone will understand that the NATO bloc is not a monolith and flint, but simply a "VIP" club in the interests of Washington. And the United States cannot agree to this and will sing "swallow" to everyone.
    2. knn54
      knn54 15 November 2021 08: 20
      +4
      The Anglo-Saxons, in addition to allies and partners, have a new category, the kept women.
      It is not necessary to admit them to NATO.
      For a long time the people have been "feeding" the DECLINED. And there are many who believe in this.
    3. Split
      Split 15 November 2021 08: 39
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Only donkeys follow the carrot on a stick.

      And pigs lol at least in minecraft you can laughing
      1. fruc
        fruc 15 November 2021 13: 33
        0
        Zelenskiy also advocates for the European future of Ukraine, only now it is impossible to join there.

        And it will not work, a poor country with 40 million people, with widespread corruption and not a simple internal situation is not needed by anyone. They were given visa-free travel to take out the workforce, resources beyond the cordon and enough.
    4. Maz
      Maz 15 November 2021 10: 08
      -2
      Uh-huh, lack of brains
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  3. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 15 November 2021 08: 16
    +1
    According to the mind, all weapons should be taken from them. For, these figures will become a global problem for the EU. It will be easy to guess who to solve it.
    1. Xlor
      Xlor 15 November 2021 08: 30
      0
      all weapons must be taken away from them

      And not only weapons, but in general everything, piercing and cutting!
      Fencing the Square with a metal grate
      And let them jump there at least to the point ...
  4. Dimy4
    Dimy4 15 November 2021 08: 18
    +1
    Ukraine is either kindled or poured into a tub of cold water. In order not to relax.
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 15 November 2021 09: 06
      +1
      Contrast shower, it is very useful for health.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 November 2021 09: 24
      +3
      Quote: Dimy4
      Ukraine is either kindled or poured into a tub of cold water. In order not to relax.

      But the main thing is to promise. And everyone is happy.
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 15 November 2021 09: 42
        +2
        But the main thing is to promise

        Exactly, but promising does not mean getting married.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 November 2021 09: 55
          +1
          Quote: Dimy4
          Exactly, but promising does not mean getting married.

          If I married everyone, whom I promised, then I would have a harem like a Sultan.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 15 November 2021 10: 36
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      Ukraine is either kindled or poured into a tub of cold water.

      The main thing for mattresses and NATO members is to keep the terpila prepared for the slaughter in good shape and maintain the illusion of a "partner" in him, but in fact ...
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 November 2021 08: 19
    +2
    And how many countries there do not want to see the Outskirts in NATO? Announce, please, the entire list ... Perhaps, after such a publication, all hopes at the outskirts should have dissipated.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 15 November 2021 08: 29
      +1
      Well, who wants to participate in the war that the Banderlog are sleeping and seeing? Who wants to die? In the name of what.? Bandera in fact are already at war with us, according to their voplyam. Many fought with us, all of Europe. What is the result?
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 November 2021 08: 48
      +2
      I have such a suspicion that only the USA, England and Canada are in favor, and only because they are behind small and large puddles.
      The rest are well aware that they live with us in Europe, and it is so small, so vulnerable, and I don’t want to die for Ukraine, for these holostenniki. Oh, how Europeans do not want to lose their well-being, their standard of living and their social benefits.
      .
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2021 10: 02
        +1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        I have such a suspicion that only the USA, England and Canada are in favor, and only because they are behind small and large puddles.

        Even less, for the draft resolution of the UN General Assembly on combating the glorification of Nazism, everyone supported, but only the United States of America and of course Ukraine opposed it.
    3. Silver bullet
      Silver bullet 15 November 2021 09: 11
      +2
      One tablet is enough. Hungarians "ride" non-slaves on "Ikarus" past NATa.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2021 10: 05
        +1
        Quote: Silver bullet
        One tablet is enough. Hungarians "ride" non-slaves on "Ikarus" past NATa.

        Even Poles, who sleep and see the return of the East Kres, if Ukraine joins NATO, then Poland will immediately lose the opportunity to return the East Kres.
  6. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 15 November 2021 08: 24
    +7
    ***
    “All NATO countries have long wanted to have Ukraine as their member” ...
    ---
    V. Klitschko
    ***
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 15 November 2021 11: 35
      0
      ... The member also does not mind being used.
  7. Xlor
    Xlor 15 November 2021 08: 27
    +1
    some countries that are members of the alliance simply do not want to see Ukraine as a member of this military-political bloc

    Nobody wants to deal with kakl ...
  8. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 15 November 2021 08: 30
    +2
    It can be assumed that Poland, the Baltic countries, the United Kingdom and the United States traditionally support Ukraine's accession to NATO, most likely those who are strongly tied to the supply of our gas are opposed, and these are Germany, Austria, Bulgaria, perhaps Italy and France, and Hungary with Orbanom 100 percent against, given the "warm" relations between the countries on the issue of Hungarian-speaking citizens of Ukraine
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 November 2021 08: 51
      +3
      Good morning! Austria is not included in NATO.
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 15 November 2021 08: 32
    +2
    NATO does not want to fight the Russians for the Crimea and Donbass. Why should they, they do whatever they want in the country and no obligations to the Ukrainians .................
  10. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 November 2021 08: 35
    +3
    Poor Ukraine and its stupid, stupid people ... Serves them right.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 15 November 2021 09: 11
      +3
      I don’t understand what the common people are so eagerly awaiting from joining NATO. Feeds are only for the military-industrial complex and the authorities, so they are taken away at the top. Work places? Funny. Is it really possible to be so stupid?
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      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2021 10: 10
        0
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        Is it really possible to be so stupid?

        It turns out you can.
      3. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 15 November 2021 12: 48
        0
        Andrey, the common people in Ukraine, are so stupid that they don't even understand this. 80 percent of the population did not travel further than the regional center. I am not talking about elementary spiritual development - visiting museums, libraries. The generation that found the USSR saw at least something. And the present two generations of "independent" people openly and profess the psychology of slaves. We had Gaster from Ukraine at the plant. Asked some questions from the high school curriculum. The answers corresponded to the level of development of the 4th grade pupil. What to demand from them? .. They would survive, but "a copy of the money. What kind of "museums" can there be?! .. What are you talking about?! ...)
        But the cost of a kilogram of fat, they know, great.)))
  11. Split
    Split 15 November 2021 08: 42
    +2
    Humpback is not enough for them ... he loved to "come to a consensus" lol
  12. Pavel73
    Pavel73 15 November 2021 08: 53
    +1
    There are no fools in NATO. A monkey with a grenade, and even a mad one, is not needed there.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 November 2021 10: 11
      0
      Quote: Pavel73
      A monkey with a grenade, and even a mad one, is not needed there.

      Galloping on the Maidan. A dangerous game.
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 November 2021 09: 04
    +2
    some countries that are members of the alliance simply do not want to see Ukraine as a member of this military-political bloc
    And here is the question for Ukrainian politicians and propagandists - what about your "whole world with us" if there is not even a single agreement on this issue? Continue to believe in what you yourself have invented and elevated to a cult.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 15 November 2021 09: 12
      +1
      The captain, well, so Gunpowder had a VEHICLE and Thomas. And now there is NOTHING here and are worn.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2021 10: 15
        0
        Quote: Murmur 55
        And now there is NOTHING here and are worn.

        But what about Napoleon, even the film was forbidden to be released with the participation of Napoleon IV.
  14. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 15 November 2021 09: 10
    +1
    And what are the raisins in admission to NATO for the people ??? It will become dangerous to live in areas near bases and facilities !!! Targets. Block soldiers often see themselves as uncultural laughing sheer restlessness (for the common people).
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 15 November 2021 09: 40
      +2
      Quote: Murmur 55
      It will become dangerous to live in areas near bases and facilities !!! Targets.

      Traditionally, "What about us?"
      Block soldiers often see themselves as uncultural

      Where do you see the culture in Ukraine in general? If dill and carrots were planted on the central street of the capital, and goats graze near St. Sophia - the cathedral, which is considered a World Heritage Site.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 November 2021 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        near Hagia Sophia, a cathedral considered a World Heritage Site, goats graze.

        ..... since ancient times in the Jewish religion has been a symbol of sin and vice.
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 November 2021 09: 15
    +1
    Here is a cunning zhanikh. Promising to marry, he uses both Ukraine and Georgia from different angles. Marriage swindler, EPRST! winked
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 15 November 2021 09: 33
      +1
      hi Afgan had a better status and the money was "zhanikh" laughing dragged nemery and to the point that all the same it turned out to be such "WIND" yes
  16. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 15 November 2021 12: 57
    0
    Zelya can, even without her desire, become a rider of the apocalypse!
  17. Alexey Kurilov_4
    Alexey Kurilov_4 15 November 2021 13: 56
    0
    Where are you ........... in a Kalashny row!