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Experts called the open architecture of the Su-75 Checkmate fighter "a factor in the abolition of total dependence on components from one manufacturer."

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Foreign experts speak after the presentation of the promising fifth-generation fighter Su-75 The Checkmate, which took place the day before at an exhibition in the UAE (in the city of Dubai). For the presentation, a special exhibition hangar was mounted on the territory of the airport.


During the presentation, information was announced that the first such fighter would take off in 2023. The Su-75 The Checkmate is designed according to the principle of the so-called open architecture, which allows the use of equipment from various manufacturers on board.

Foreign experts drew attention to this point in the presentation of the Su-75 Checkmate. It is noted that Russian developers, attracting the attention of potential customers, use a weighty argument. The ability to place equipment from different manufacturers on board was called "a factor of eliminating customer dependence on components from one manufacturer." At the same time, the comparison was made with the F-35 program, where it is impossible to use the equipment of those manufacturers that are not registered in this program. In this regard, the Russian program The Checkmate has great prospects.

An additional topic for discussion of The Checkmate in the expert environment was the words expressed about the intelligent pilot support system. In fact, we are talking about the implementation of the concept of artificial intelligence, which will become, as noted, the “co-pilot”. The AI ​​system will provide and help analyze the situation about probable targets and threats.

Thanks to the weapons control system (and the total weight of the fighter's combat load is 7,4 tons), as well as thanks to the AFAR radar, the aircraft can simultaneously track up to three dozen targets and attack up to 6 of them.

A statement is also being discussed about such a design feature of the Su-75, thanks to which a person is not needed for pre-flight control. Also, this design makes it extremely easy to access the airfield equipment to the aircraft systems.

Experts believe that this is an additional plus, a "trump card" for The Checkmate program, because a potential customer will not have to rebuild the airfield infrastructure and change logistics to provide service for a Russian-designed fighter.

The characteristics of the Su-75 in terms of flight are also named. The maximum speed is 1,8 M, the flight range without PTB (outboard fuel tanks) is at least 2800 km.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 November 2021 07: 30
    -10
    Got at least one, "lift it on the wing", and praise what exists in the form of a model without an engine is stupidity! Do you already have orders for it? They were not interested in the exhibition, because this is just a MODEL! An airplane for a foreign uncle, first of all, and it had to be created at least 7 years ago!
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 15 November 2021 08: 06
      +21
      Well, at least now you understand why you are writing here and those who understand this and know what they are talking about at this exhibition?))) I already said yesterday, but I will repeat it. There is almost a standard of marketing. These are F 35 sales. Read how many and how they were sold. You can say whatever you like, but the ability to promote and sell a product in the states is much better than us. And there is nothing wrong with learning these skills. And so far, everything is being done almost perfectly in terms of strategy. Now it is extremely important to find a place in the market for oneself. Moreover, in a crisis it is a little easier to do it. What they are doing. And then if he really flies and everything that is said will work, it will be a major success. But it simply cannot be achieved without such risk.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 15 November 2021 08: 30
        -12
        To "learn skills" and sell something, you need to have something to start with. And when they try to sell something that doesn’t exist in nature, these are not “futures contracts”, but the usual deception. When it flies, then you can talk, but there is nothing to croak over the plywood model, fanning the lilac snot in the promises.
        1. Olkhovsky
          Olkhovsky 15 November 2021 08: 37
          +8
          to sell something, you need to have something to start with. And when they try to sell something that doesn’t exist in nature, these are not “futures contracts”, but the usual deception.
          you think in terms of the past, these schemes no longer work. It is necessary to think "more broadly" and be more progressive in our time.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 15 November 2021 14: 15
            +5
            Quote: Olkhovsky
            ... you think in terms of the past

            We live in an interesting time! Some - they design, conceive, try, build, do, create. Others - they brake with all their might, substitute footpegs, blame and throw mud all that DO and they are going to do the first, tediously about the departed and dreaming of a fantastic future country. But the most interesting thing is that the dreamer-dreamers accuse the realists of conservatism, idleness, greed and covetousness! Wonderful are your so different creations, Lord! laughing laughing laughing
        2. mitroha
          mitroha 15 November 2021 08: 38
          +8
          Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
          croak over a plywood model, fanning the lilac snot in the promises there is nothing.

          After such a pearl, nothing better in your articles, I'm afraid I won't see anything, Roman.
          After every advertisement on TV you are so indignant, because in fact this is just an old, kind advertisement. Just not on TV, but live, a little closer to the potential customer. Save your nerves hi
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            Roman Skomorokhov 15 November 2021 15: 36
            -1
            Quote: Mitroha
            After such a pearl, nothing better in your articles, I'm afraid I won't see


            Well, no, I won't disappoint you. Of course you will.
        3. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 15 November 2021 09: 12
          +5
          This is the only way to sell a high-tech and competitive startup. I will repeat. Look when kaa started selling F 35 and gaining investments on it.
        4. Olegi1
          Olegi1 15 November 2021 12: 54
          +8
          To "learn skills" and sell something, you need to have something to start with. And when they try to sell something that doesn’t exist in nature, these are not “futures contracts”, but the usual deception. When it flies, then you can talk, but there is nothing to croak over the plywood model, fanning the lilac snot in the promises.


          Aircraft purchase contracts (civil and military) always begin to contract strongly BEFORE the plane takes off or is rolled out. Sometimes over 5 years. Example - B-787, F-35, as well as - any civilian / military aircraft. I've been developing electronics for aviation for 23 years, if anything ...
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 November 2021 16: 42
            0
            I've been developing electronics for aviation for 23 years, if anything ...

            Huh, I'm sorry, but this is nothing, so if you were a couch strategist with 23 years of experience, then yes, your opinion would have weight, and what a wink
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 15 November 2021 08: 32
        -3
        Quote: carstorm 11
        You can say whatever you like, but the ability to promote and sell a product in the states is much better than us.

        It depends on what is considered a skill. If the ability to threaten with economic sanctions those wishing to acquire weapons from other manufacturers, then - yes. Even in the United States, there is a highly developed electronic industry that produces products with specified high (in comparison with Russian) parameters. This was recognized both in the submarine fleet and in avionics. US aviation has fire-and-forget missiles with seeker. But, the most important thing that does not need advertising is the ability of the industry to produce products in unlimited quantities, and not five pieces per year.
        And further. In the USA, they do not arrange parades and various shows of models that have a long-term prospect of becoming serial samples.
        hi
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 15 November 2021 09: 18
          +1
          All products need advertising) All products need promotion) The ways are different, but the meaning is always the same. As for the last point, the parades are the target audience) With a wild number of spectators. It is foolish to ignore it. And they show the layouts all the time) You just don't really follow it)
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 15 November 2021 10: 15
            -3
            Quote: carstorm 11
            It is foolish to ignore it.

            The parade is an ordinary window dressing, which gives neither an understanding of the characteristics, nor the proper quality of inspection. In the USSR, not stupid people created something like VDNKh. Today it can be a salon (short-term). The best advertisement for military equipment is its combat use. Forgive me, you can enumerate the qualities of the S-350, S-400, S-500, S-550 as long as you like, but at one time the S-75 that shot down the F-117 did not need advertising. And the Su-75, made in a layout, you must agree, is not an indicator of either availability, or characteristics, or production rates. I’ll tell you more: the Soviet system of education and training of mid-level specialists (vocational schools and colleges) has already been “gagged” by the Soviet system of education and training of mid-level specialists (vocational schools and colleges) in modern Russian production, where Tajik-Uzbeks, who speak Russian poorly, are the desired specialists in production.
            When I compare the same conveyor for the production of the first Zhiguli with the current one, I don't see much difference. You can make money on the Internet or on the stock exchange, but this will not add to the goods.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            All products need advertising

            Not all. Some of them are: bread, salt, sugar, milk, matches, and more.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            And they show the layouts all the time.

            The main thing is that the display of layouts does not become an end in itself.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 15 November 2021 10: 37
              +2
              All) Matches are different. Quality, brand, price. There are thousands of bread producers and they compete with each other. Salt is sea, coarse, fine, medium.) Etc. Even ordinary water needs it. I will say more. She is, in principle, around us and everyone is doing this. We advertise ourselves in society, in front of women in front of the authorities) Combat use is certainly the best advertisement. I agree completely. But it is available at times. And not everyone. And not everything can be shown there.
            2. Castro Ruiz
              Castro Ruiz 15 November 2021 14: 59
              +1
              Ross 42. Vee scored about flour and kerosene. :)
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 15 November 2021 15: 17
                0
                Quote: CastroRuiz
                Ross 42. Vee counting hammered in about flour and kerosene. :)

                I make allowances for poor knowledge of the Russian language:
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Not all. Some of them are: bread, salt, sugar, milk, matches and many others
      3. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 15 November 2021 08: 36
        +6
        Quote: carstorm 11
        You can say whatever you like, but the ability to promote and sell a product in the states is much better than us.

        Perhaps ... it is possible that the American hucksters are better than the Russians! But they also have more opportunities! "Sticks in kolesa" nobody inserted them .... that is, no one announced sanctions to them! And besides, they are always ready to act according to the principle ...

        And they have acted like this more than once! In general ... "have you seen a strong man? The muzzle asks for a brick!"
        Here sometimes you shouldn't go on the beaten track ... but think about "surprises"! This is what the Russian defense industry is starting to do!
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 15 November 2021 09: 19
          +1
          Who can argue with this. Moreover, in such conditions, this is the progress that we see if everything works out successfully in the square)
      4. lis-ik
        lis-ik 15 November 2021 12: 47
        -6
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Well, at least now you understand why you are writing here and those who understand this and know what they are talking about at this exhibition?))) I already said yesterday, but I will repeat it. There is almost a standard of marketing. These are F 35 sales. Read how many and how they were sold. You can say whatever you like, but the ability to promote and sell a product in the states is much better than us. And there is nothing wrong with learning these skills. And so far, everything is being done almost perfectly in terms of strategy. Now it is extremely important to find a place in the market for oneself. Moreover, in a crisis it is a little easier to do it. What they are doing. And then if he really flies and everything that is said will work, it will be a major success. But it simply cannot be achieved without such risk.

        How are you brainwashed.
    2. URAL72
      URAL72 15 November 2021 08: 30
      +10
      "to praise what exists in the form of a layout without engine dullness!"

      It is you who spews stupidity - and Sukhoi makes advertising. We need money for development, we are looking for investors. Su-30, Yak-130, etc., it all started with foreign customers, that is, investors
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 15 November 2021 11: 10
        -2
        Ural72-return to Russia billions of dollars illegally withdrawn, and obtained from the sale of usable resources of Russia, that's enough for everything! And, you write nonsense like that, they feed us with tales that tomorrow Armata will go to the troops, and these feeding have already bothered adequate people for a long time! We are losing not only personnel, but also technologies, we will soon have no production of our own, and you still wear rose-colored glasses ...
    3. lis-ik
      lis-ik 15 November 2021 12: 46
      -5
      Quote: Thrifty
      Got at least one, "lift it on the wing", and praise what exists in the form of a model without an engine is stupidity! Do you already have orders for it? They were not interested in the exhibition, because this is just a MODEL! An airplane for a foreign uncle, first of all, and it had to be created at least 7 years ago!

      Do not interfere with people living in virtual reality, which is created by the "authorities", at least as a trump card only marketing tricks give out, and now they will remember that the layout is seven times more economical than the F-35.
  2. TerraSandera
    TerraSandera 15 November 2021 07: 30
    -14
    Radar with Afar said not ready yet? So what are the 30 goals? However, like the plane itself. And 35 already, here and now. I doubt that the Yankees will not twist the arms of potential buyers. Such a "Nord Stream" in aviation. Designed for export, but you will have to buy it yourself, step and mate.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 November 2021 08: 05
      0
      Radar with Afar said not ready yet? So what are the 30 goals? However, like the plane itself.
      Even if it does. So what? He has enough ammunition on board to attack 6 targets at once. The internal compartments are not of infinite volume, though. Usually, for a confident defeat, 2 missiles are launched at once. For the simultaneous attack of 6 targets for up to 12 missiles. Plus something else in stock.
  3. Cat Kuzya
    Cat Kuzya 15 November 2021 07: 35
    -13
    O! What smart experts! It will work out on them, stuffed into the plane a bunch of components from different manufacturers and here's an airplane of "open architecture! It's cool. If you develop this idea to its logical conclusion, then for example, it was quite possible to put spare parts and components from ... I-16 on" Messerschmitt " Well done "iksperty" and those who came up with this very "open architecture" - I sit and think that before there were fools in the aviation industry, for years they created an airplane, established the production of subcontractors in order to achieve the pairing of parts and devices, and here, I scattered different inside, like a Lego set and here's the plane you want.
    1. novel66
      novel66 15 November 2021 07: 40
      +2
      "Messerschmitt" could have supplied spare parts and components from ... I-16

      no, the engines are different
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 November 2021 08: 09
      +2
      Before, there were fools in the aviation industry, for years they created an airplane, set up the production of subcontractors in order to achieve the pairing of parts and devices, and then, he threw different things inside, like in a Lego constructor, and here's an airplane for you, whatever you want. Gee-gee.
      This is not to mention the volume and shape of cavities (conditional) for each specific node, standardization of attachment points, connection connectors, possible functional conflicts when placing dissimilar nodes next to each other ...
    3. Kronos
      Kronos 15 November 2021 08: 19
      -1
      Hehe. This is such a clever marketing ploy. Since Russia is under sanctions, and according to its own developments of this equipment itself, there is a lag. We came up with clever heads for you a frame with an engine (when it is ready for sale, this is also a big question), and you yourself will hurry up there and buy what is modern for you or put your own.
  4. Bradley
    Bradley 15 November 2021 07: 52
    -14

    The new American fighter - F365, has two engines, each with a capacity of 40.000 kgf in nominal and 75.000 kgf at afterburner, super-AFAR, a speed of 10M, a combat radius of 50.000 miles and can lift 120 tons, with a dead weight of 6 tons.
    And of course, it uses a super open architecture.
    1. seeker of truth 777
      seeker of truth 777 15 November 2021 12: 37
      0
      this is F-132, 57 + 75
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 15 November 2021 15: 31
        -5
        this is F-132, 57 + 75

        Exactly!
  5. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 15 November 2021 07: 58
    -1
    And the "open architecture" somehow protects the aircraft from outside interference, is it possible for someone to control it first or make it easier for the electronic warfare to complete the task?
    1. Puzoter
      Puzoter 15 November 2021 08: 26
      +6
      An open architecture is just a collection of generic interfaces. By itself, it can not facilitate anything - it all depends on the preferences of the operator.
    2. mitroha
      mitroha 15 November 2021 08: 30
      +3
      I think there will be certain limitations in the "openness" of the architecture
  6. Old engineer
    Old engineer 15 November 2021 08: 14
    -4
    Fairy tales ... To be continued.
    1. Puzoter
      Puzoter 15 November 2021 08: 34
      +5
      How many whiners and vsepalschikov we have, it even seemed on the patriotic site. The design and technologies have been worked out on the SU-57, the computer is counting on the airframe and the structure now, the avionics is there, the engine is there, the weapons are there, all the systems have been worked out, the AFAR also had to be finished, what is the actual problem of creating a truncated version of what is already there ? Even if our systems seem imperfect in some way, then this is not a drawback - please, put any. The plane will come out fine and everything will be done on time, I am absolutely sure.
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 15 November 2021 08: 50
        -4
        How many whiners and vsepalschikov we have, it even seemed on the patriotic site

        And on the "patriotic site" you only need to praise, right? No argument, just praise?
        The resource lives on the fact that there are often srachs under the news, this is the bread of the site.
        As comments die, srachi in them, so VO will die. And to have large comment threads, you need people from different positions.
        Yes, and a single assessment of something would not be, a priori is wrong. Those. if 100 out of 100 people choose one option, then it is wrong.
        1. Puzoter
          Puzoter 15 November 2021 08: 53
          +1
          Do you feel the difference between whining and criticism? Nagging cannot be a creative force, even if it is simply about promoting a site.
          1. Bradley
            Bradley 15 November 2021 08: 57
            -4
            Just Gos. few people trust corporations. And then, a discussion of the usual layout, on serious cabbage soup. Hence the nagging.
            It is difficult to criticize what is not.
            I will only be glad if everything with the Su-75 is finished on time and mass production is started. And really serial, and not a few cars a year.
            But alas, there are examples, not the best ones.
            1. Puzoter
              Puzoter 15 November 2021 09: 15
              +3
              There is now a fashionable term "synergistic effect", in my opinion now is the time for it. If the correct concept, and it is undoubtedly correct, is imposed on the existing groundwork - and the launch of the SU-57 into series is a good groundwork, then the probability of success will be quite high. Plus, its development is probably not the first year. So we are waiting. I'm sure everything will be fine.
              1. Bradley
                Bradley 15 November 2021 09: 19
                -1
                Plus, its development is probably not the first year. So we are waiting. I'm sure everything will be fine.

                Of course, the layout is based on something, it was not blinded from the imagination. They made a 3D model, ran it through simulations. They started from the requirements for the car.
                I hope you are right, and we will really see the Su-57 in marketable quantities with us.
                1. Cat Kuzya
                  Cat Kuzya 15 November 2021 13: 39
                  -5
                  Uh-huh, my son has 3D models every day, he drives them through simulations from WarThunder. I will wait for orders for them - can anyone take the lead ... after all, the 3D simulation models have passed ... yes laughing
                  1. Bradley
                    Bradley 15 November 2021 15: 31
                    -4
                    Uh-huh, I have 3D mock-ups every day for my son, he drives them through simulations from WarThunder. I will wait for orders for them - we can, who will lead ... after all, the 3D simulation models have passed ... yes laughing

                    Simulation simulation strife. It depends on what physical parameters are set. Var thunder is highly simplified in physics.
                  2. Nikolaevich I
                    Nikolaevich I 15 November 2021 16: 13
                    -1
                    Oh, Kuzya ... no matter how you dream about bad luck! Otherwise, instead of profitable orders, you will receive a simulation! ...
      2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 November 2021 16: 49
        0
        How many whiners and vsepalschikov we have, it even seemed on the patriotic site.

        you seem to be on the BO!
    2. URAL72
      URAL72 15 November 2021 08: 40
      +5
      Why fairy tales? Su-30 as an example. There the Indians have one filling, the Malays have another, the Chinese have a third, for themselves a fourth ...
  7. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 15 November 2021 08: 17
    +5
    The equipment that is planned for sale to foreign users allows the installation of equipment from foreign manufacturers. This equipment is not involved in the basic processes of safety and piloting. Armament, missiles, locators and other equipment. The main thing in the car is a glider, an automated control system. The question is when will we see this machine. in the air?
    1. Puzoter
      Puzoter 15 November 2021 08: 49
      +4
      That's it. Glider, engine, automated control system. Put the rest from any manufacturer to your taste. The second and third ones are already there, the glider is based on the SU-57 technologies, only the contours should be redrawn, the computer will calculate the rest. In the 23rd year and will fly.
      1. Cat Kuzya
        Cat Kuzya 15 November 2021 14: 11
        -4
        Well, yes, the computer will do everything: it will calculate, and will do it, but no, so we will adjust it with a hammer, we will pull it in with tyreps and tape it with adhesive tape. "Open architecture" zhezh. I love my mother's designers and "xpert".
        PS: we learned how to correctly cut the loot, the main thing is that everything was scientific and looked "innovative". The "open architecture" of an airplane is power !. Already at work, I began to think about how to shove the ratsuha to the boss under this name.
  8. ustal1951
    ustal1951 15 November 2021 11: 45
    +2
    How many effective managers are there ... Two years before the first relegation (at best), and you are already giving victory. Did we catch the disease from the Ukrainians?
  9. Force
    Force 15 November 2021 12: 11
    0
    UAC new video - the cartoon was presented, in it the unmanned version was lit up smile
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekKMpWJRV9E
  10. lis-ik
    lis-ik 15 November 2021 12: 43
    -2
    The characteristics of the Su-75 in terms of flight are also named. Maximum speed - 1,8 M, flight range without PTB (outboard fuel tanks) - not less than 2800 km


    Forgot. that according to one very "effective" manager, it is also 7 times more economical than the F-35.
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 November 2021 11: 34
    0
    You can similarly approach attack helicopters. Ka52 or Mi28. Make it to any standard (NATO, for example). There is now a total superiority of Apache ..... and those who can independently produce ATGMs and optics and control systems do not have the production of helicopters.
  12. Hindu
    Hindu 17 November 2021 22: 20
    0
    Already an article about this fighter lately. And so they suck on this and that, and such a potential and such ... Damn, make at least a prototype, at least in one quantity, and then plug the Americans and others in the belt ...
    1. Old engineer
      Old engineer April 12 2022 17: 14
      0
      Well, they made a cardboard one. Or doesn't fit?