The Checkmate pavilion at Dubai airport: Su-75 attracts interest at the airshow even before the official presentation

The network is evaluating the interest that was aroused by the appearance of a pavilion with a layout of the promising Russian fighter Su-75 The Checkmate at the Dubai Airshow 2021. Recall that the Su-75 is being demonstrated abroad for the first time in the United Arab Emirates. For him, a special pavilion was built on the territory of the airport with the English name of the program of the fifth generation light single-engine fighter. Earlier, the layout of this promising fighter was exhibited at the international exhibition of arms and military equipment in the Moscow region.

It is noted that today Dubai is one of the few places where you can see US and Russian military aircraft next to each other. In the photographs that are published on the network, you can see the military transport aircraft of the US Air Force, UAE Air Force (US production) adjacent to the pavilion where the model of the Russian Su-75 is exhibited.

The official presentation will take place tonight (Moscow time), while sources share information that several delegations from Arab countries have already visited the Russian exhibition pavilion, where The Checkmate is on display.

It is noted that representatives of the UAE authorities are interested in the development of Russian specialists from the Sukhoi company. And this is due to the difficulties that suddenly arose before the UAE Air Force in terms of acquiring American fifth-generation F-35 fighters. Let us remind you that the deal with the United States is currently actually "frozen". And the main reason for this is called the tough position that Israel has taken. Israel is against the sale of American F-35s to neighbors in the region.

Military experts from the United Arab Emirates, who visit the exhibition in Dubai in large numbers, note that for the United Arab Emirates Air Force, interest in The Checkmate project is associated with the desire to obtain a modern multipurpose aircraft that would be distinguished by air superiority and would reliably protect the country's air borders. At the same time, such an aircraft should be distinguished by the possibility of using the most modern weapons against ground targets. Earlier it was reported that the Su-75 could eventually become a carrier of a hypersonic weapons.

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[Old ensign]

Who might be interested in the layout? Show the plane that proved itself in the war. For example, in Syria, this checkmate will shoot down an enemy plane. After Karabakh, Bayraktars are selling well.

[kot423]

And what is wrong? Sukhoi proactively developed this letak (read, with his own money). And if they sign a contract for it, then there will be money for embodiment in metal, + running-in production, + another spit in the direction of mattresses.

[svp67]

Quote: kot423

And if they sign a contract for it, then there will be money for embodiment in metal, + running-in production, + another spit in the direction of mattresses.

Even if now no one subscribes, then the money for its creation, and accelerated, on the basis of many decisions of the Su-57, will be found. Russia is also interested in obtaining it

[Maks winter]

The plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur began production of a new fifth-generation Russian fighter, Checkmate, also known as the Su-75. Now the company is already assembling several aircraft of this brand at the same time.

Checkmate aircraft began to be assembled at the Gagarin aircraft plant (KnAAZ). Serial production of the car will begin in 2026. According to Mikhail Nikitushkin, the designer of the Sukhoi corporation, the new Russian aircraft is still awaiting modernization. It will soon receive an updated engine known as Product 117, which will improve the aircraft's performance. In serial production, this engine will be named AL-41F1. This is reported by "Gazeta.ru".

The Checkmate will be equipped with both air-to-air missiles and guided air-to-surface missiles. In addition, the vehicle will carry various bombs and cannon armament. Over 15 years, 300 manned Checkmate aircraft will be produced, and an unmanned version of the aircraft will also be presented.
https://tsargrad.tv/news/novyj-russkij-samoljot-modernizirujut-izdeliem-117-ego-uzhe-nachali-sobirat-na-aviacionnom-zavode_446415?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: kot423

... if they sign a contract for him ...

If the contract is signed, an interesting competition is planned and additional points for Russia in another competition - geopolitical!

[Serg Kam]

Sukhoi proactively developed this letak (read, with his own money)

But the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, says that the creation of the Su-75 is entirely at the expense of the state. Whom to believe? You or Manturov?

"Russia is ready to fully finance the creation of the fifth generation fighter Su-75 Checkmate," said the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov on the sidelines of the Eastern Economic Forum on September 3.
"Moreover, we have a budget for this completely drawn up, both with the participation of the programs of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, and extra-budgetary funds of Rostec and the United Aircraft Corporation (United Aircraft Building Corporation). As for foreign participation, this is not excluded."

https://iz.ru/1216541/2021-09-03/manturov-zaiavil-o-gotovnosti-rossii-sozdat-checkmate-za-svoi-schet

[carstorm 11]

You tell the states that the penguin was selling) This is marketing. Promotion of the product to the market. If you wait for a production car for presentation, then you will sell about ... zero.

[tralflot1832]

So there, besides Chess, there are worthy offers, one Vityaz 350E, which is worth it.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Old ensign

Who might be interested in the layout?

What about perfume? Perfume might be of interest?
Rostec presented a perfume dedicated to the Checkmate fighter jet.

[Voltsky]

maybe the one who partially paid for the development ?! No, we all remember how one uncle said that it was being fully developed for the money of the Russian Federation and not for any other, but we also remember that 5 years ago there were rumors that the sheikhs had either already entered or were going to enter the checkout for the development of a light fighter , it is true Migu, but given the aggressive policy of dry, it is quite possible that they were lured away.

[svp67]

Quote: Old ensign

Who might be interested in the layout?

Those who don't even have layouts ...

Quote: Old ensign

Show the plane that proved itself in the war.

Now the situation is different ... many countries have entered the race to create a competitor to the American F-35, Russia entered it last, but wants to become the first. There is a chance, now the main thing is not to miss it.

[tralflot1832]

Yuri Slyusar: In Komsamolsk on the Amur, the production of several SU 57s has begun !!!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: tralflot1832

Yuri Slyusar: In Komsamolsk on the Amur, the production of several SU 57!!!

I knew it: you can't trust ex-fishermen to broadcast on aviation topics. Born waterfowl - cannot fly!

The production of a Russian single-engine fifth generation fighter Su-75 Checkmate
At the Dubai Airshow, the General Director of the United Aircraft Corporation, Yuri Slyusar, said that the construction of several aircraft samples had begun at once.

https://www.kp.ru/online/news/4515591/

[Glagol1]

A layout is much better than a cartoon. Correctly, that they were lucky.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Old ensign

Show the plane that proved itself in the war. For example, in Syria, this checkmate will shoot down an enemy plane.

How did the F-35 perform?
How many air battles has the F-35 fought? - how many opponents are downed?
There were reports of the use of the F-35B in Afghanistan, the strike was struck at the soldiers (militants ...) of the Taliban, in November 2018. And in Operation Unwavering Determination in 2019.
The F-35 was also used by the Israeli Air Force in Syria.
With so many "sorties", F-35s are sold in the hundreds. Total done 3530 piece.

[Maz]

Quote: Old ensign

Who might be interested in the layout? Show the plane that proved itself in the war. For example, in Syria, this checkmate will shoot down an enemy plane. After Karabakh, Bayraktars are selling well.

The Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant (KnAAZ) began assembling several promising fifth-generation Checkmate fighters at once. This was stated by the head of the UAC Yuri Slyusar.

[zenion]

Ukrainian mock-ups of tanks also sell well if they fit on a table and have good plastic.

[tralflot1832]

And why is "Baba Yaga" against? The UAE does not seem to run into Israel? F35 that the Arabs in the air will not obey?

[Shahno]

I think, until the issue with Iran is resolved, Israel will be against any strengthening of any Arab state.

[tralflot1832]

And I already thought, racial discrimination?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: tralflot1832

And I already thought, racial discrimination?

No. Ordinary Zionism. From Walter Lucker's theory:

9. The Arab-Jewish conflict was inevitable because the Arabs could not come to terms with the creation of the Jewish state.
10. From the Arab point of view, Zionism represented aggression, and Jewish immigration represented invasion.
13. The main goal of Zionism was twofold: to restore Jewish self-respect and dignity in the eyes of non-Jews and to restore a Jewish national home for Jews to "live as free people in their own land, die peacefully in their own homes."

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Сионизм

[Shahno]

Leave it, if Zionism came to you, you would not write so freely.

[krillon]

You are walking on thin ice. The FSB expert recognized the documentary film "Zionism", filmed in the USSR in the seventies, as extremist. Now they are friends and brothers. Type.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Krillon

Now they are friends and brothers. Type.

Yes, come on! to paraphrase the famous lines:
Israel is my brother to me,
USA is my mother!
I'd rather be an orphan -
Fuck relatives like that.

[Alex777]

Quote: tralflot1832

And I already thought, racial discrimination?

There was an unverified infa that the States found out about the sheikhs' interest in the Su-75 and punished the F-35 with a freeze.

[alexmach]

And what does Iran have to do with the OAU? They're kind of "from different sandboxes".

[Zaurbek]

Yes, he is against it, but no one has yet another 5th generation ... ... that's Israel and influences the supply of technology to the Arabs. A competitor will appear - there will be a different situation

[Shahno]

I wrote that Israel will block supplies. For security reasons ...

[Orsis338]

When did Iran become an Arab state?

[knn54]

Andrey, because "Baba Yaga" is the SELECT.

[Shahno]

Hinting at a relationship with the states?
Well, if with Him, so, we have to do with it, I chose it myself. He had a couple of hundred there to choose, peoples in the sense.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: knn54

"Baba Yaga" SELECTED.

This is the lurid think so.
But in fact - by God Exiled! (And this is a historical fact reflected in the Bible.) Therefore, as it was said in the old commercials - FEEL THE DIFFERENCE!
And henceforth I ask you not to be mistaken!

[Pavel57]

Against the background of the weakening of the United States, any alternative types of weapons have a chance of success.

[KCA]

But no one will say about the serial SU-57 that it has over 900 flaws, of which 13 are critical and threaten the pilot's life.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: KCA

But no one will say about the serial SU-57 that it has over 900 flaws, of which 13 are critical and threaten the pilot's life.

Naturally he won't. Any flaw will be either state or commercial secrets. As well as about any other shortcomings of our modern fighters and other military equipment.
The F-35 is the only such project open to the public. For the rest of the fighters, there is no such information in principle, so there is nothing to compare with. The first crashed serial Su-57, as it were, hints that there are drawbacks.

[KCA]

He is not particularly open, just someone, for example, an offended Boeing, kindly asked the Pentagon to leak information to the press.

[Zaurbek]

F35 only in the US has a couple of competitive programs F15EX, F18 for the Navy, F16 in the latest versions ... ... and all have lobbies in Congress and the army. This is where the openness of the conditional program comes from ... there is still Rafal and EF2000 on the European market. Su57 is one and that too late.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: KCA

But about the serial SU-57, no one will say what it has

Well, yes ... Well, yes ... Absolutely no one ... And how familiar it is:

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[El Chuvachino]

Why are you talking about something you don't understand at all?

[mark1]

Yurko, can you repeat it without a pan and in a static state?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Yuriy71

Screaming Roosters, bullying the whole world and dancing with "naked opa"! Laughter, simple!

Does the embroidered shirt press on the collar? Who's got "oops naked"? Very dressed ... winter is on the nose ...

[poquello]

Quote: Yuriy71

F-35 already - 650 units and more!

with their speed their su35 will pack

[Zaurbek]

Su35 Will not reach ... ... they will shoot like in a shooting range. Someone will light up, and someone will quietly launch rockets. And we don't have much Su35. Ф22 in USA Pieces 200

[poquello]

Quote: Zaurbek

someone will quietly launch rockets

quietly launch silent rockets? ))))))))) and what, will it get?

[Zaurbek]

Two missiles will be launched ... .... Or two F35 - 4 missiles ... ..f15EX now can carry up to 20 medium-range missiles

[poquello]

Quote: Zaurbek

Two missiles will be launched ... .... Or two F35 - 4 missiles ... ..f15EX now can carry up to 20 medium-range missiles

))))))))))) oh how, already f15

[Zaurbek]

Anyone can launch rockets. It is important who sees, while he himself will not be identified and will give the CU

[poquello]

Quote: Zaurbek

Anyone can launch rockets. It is important who sees, while he himself will not be identified and will give the CU

in how, and why should he have any weapons at all, let the control center carry with him))))))))))))))))

[Zaurbek]

And so it is possible… .for this there is AWACS in large quantities …… .do not worry, by the meeting with Su35 there will be AWACS too. Yankees always fight with advantage

[poquello]

Quote: Zaurbek

And so it is possible… .for this there is AWACS in large quantities …… .do not worry, by the meeting with Su35 there will be AWACS too. Yankees always fight with advantage

AWACS is a good target for c400

[Zaurbek]

He does not fly on the front page ... and the C400 cannot fly ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Zaurbek

He does not fly on the front page ... and the C400 cannot fly ...

- From the second "strip" he sees the target not far ...
- The S-400 does not know how to fly, but it doesn’t allow others without permission either ... The air defense is called (it doesn’t fly and doesn’t let others!)

[Zaurbek]

The higher the radar, the farther it sees ... S-400 - air defense of a ship or object ... and air battles take place in different places.

[poquello]

Quote: Zaurbek

The higher the radar, the farther it sees ... S-400 - air defense of a ship or object ... and air battles take place in different places.

)))))))))))) You don't take the opposite effect into account, the higher it hangs, the further you can see it

[Alex777]

Quote: Zaurbek

f15EX can now carry up to 20 medium-range missiles

And how many of these do the States have?

[Zaurbek]

The release has begun ..... it is necessary to look at the orders. And we must bear in mind that the F15 combatants will be modernized. And it should be borne in mind that these planes are already massively flying in the Air Force of Saditov, Qatar, and ordered by the Air Force of Israel. And in the assets of the US Air Force - under 200 units F22.

[sportline]

Short range. Just a problem. It will glow like a Christmas tree on the air defense radar. 20 rmd is a stage for combating bairaktor-type drones in the sky over Barmaleistan. Not to fight advanced air defenses.

[Zaurbek]

AM120 up to 120km .... medium range.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Zaurbek

AM120 up to 120km .... medium range.

Yes, but 110 km, this rocket should be controlled using the AFAR carrier, right up to the capture of the target by the seeker.
Well, who of the Su-35S will allow Penguin to do this with impunity !? Not only will the electronic warfare systems disrupt guidance, the fat-bellied one will also receive a response from the R-37 (R-77).
But you are right about one thing: the Yankees are a difficult opponent, so you need to prepare intensely and purposefully, using non-standard schemes and solutions to achieve victory in battle.

[Zaurbek]

Western missiles have combined guidance .... inertial + AGSN

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Zaurbek

inertial + AGSN

The flight path of the AIM-120 can consist of three sites: command-inertial, autonomous inertial and active radar.
When launched beyond the visual visibility of the target: - if the target does not maneuver, then the transmission of correction commands from the carrier does not occur.
- if the target maneuvers (after all, the fighter!), then in this case, (if the target maneuvers! ) the onboard equipment calculates the trajectory of the target and the corrected target coordinates are transmitted to the missile.
Corrective commands are transmitted through the side lobes of the AFAR directional diagram of the carrier aircraft with the frequency of its scanning. These commands are received by the missile using the on-board communications link receiver. With the arrival at the anticipated point, the active seeker begins to work. Target detection with RCS = 3m² occurs at D = 16-18 km

[Zaurbek]

And what's wrong with that? A rocket appears in front of the target, 18 km away, before that it was flying in a passive form ... turns on the AGSN and everything depends on:
1. energy rocket
2. Improvements of the GOS and PP goals ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Zaurbek

And what's wrong with that?

The carrier must work AFAR in active mode. And this is a signal - they are looking for / found you. Further, an energetic anti-missile maneuver and ejection of the LC ...
And for greater persuasiveness, launch your beater.
According to statistics, all battles that began on large and avg. distances, in 50% of cases ended in short maneuvering fights ...
But here it is not a fact that the Penguin will not be fried ...
AHA.

[Rubi0]

So that's the point ... Collect the loot and cut it. What is it for you, the main thing is that foreign money will be cut in the Russian design bureaus, if they collect a little, then the designers will drank on all sorts of projects, and if there is enough, then maybe they will cut something in the metal)

[Stepan S]

Screaming Roosters, bullying the whole world and dancing with "naked opa"! Laughter, simple!

Great Ukr? Only there everything is real and flies.

[CommanderDIVA]

The Su 75 has good commercial prospects and so this aircraft is being promoted primarily with an eye on good contracts with India, there is no doubt that it will fly, most likely they will actively use the developments on the Su 57, but that is why it was impossible to instruct to make such an aircraft MiG, breathing life into this KB, I don't understand

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

that's why it was impossible to instruct to make such an aircraft MiG, breathing life into this design bureau, I do not understand

This design bureau is dead, it was absorbed by Sukhoi as part of the merger into a single corporate center for aircraft construction of the UAC.
There are prospects, but the Su-75 was needed ten years ago.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

There are prospects, but the Su-75 was needed ten years ago.

True, but the engine was not there! This is how the product "30" got close to serial production, and the idea of ​​a single-engine fighter got the right to life ... IMHO, this is exactly what it looks like ...

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

True, but the engine was not there! This is how the product "30"

How was it not? Why say such nonsense?
AL-31/41 are excellent engines, ideal for single-engine fighters. Su-75 will be on them, if the product 30 will be received, it will be much later.


The RD-33 is worse, but it also has a single-engine fighter.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

How was it not? Why say such nonsense?

These engines are well-known, and a couple of tons of thrust for a single-engine, as it was conceived, was apparently not enough. For single-engine engines, the engine parameters are more important, but they wanted to be no worse than the "penguin".
Otherwise, it really would have appeared 10 years ago ... But for some reason they did not even talk about such a machine ...

[Zaurbek]

Initially, when forming a fleet of fighters, the USSR had to choose the American version, they also chose between F16 and F18 in the competition ... ... China followed the same path.

[Zaurbek]

Engines - Al31-41 were ... ... the main mistake was with the MiG29 ... ... was needed. The conditional successor of the MiG23 ... ... now we would have a 4 ++ in a light performance similar to the Su35S

[just exp]

India is unlikely, they want a heavy double.
and the Su-75 was ordered by the UAE (the news was about 5 years ago), and Iran and Algeria may also be interested (recently there was news that Iran is negotiating the purchase of IMHO or Su-35 or Su-75 fighters)

[Zaurbek]

India will cut Tejas they have already presented its development ... ..

[Alex777]

The price of Tejas will kill him. Easily.
The Su-75 has a very good chance.

[Zaurbek]

Su75 in the Indian version will not be cheap ..... like any 5th generation.

[Alex777]

They also need to change their MiG-21. As many as 150 pcs.
So the first batch, apparently, will be ordered to us.
Faster and cheaper to get everything.

[Zaurbek]

Generation 4 is no longer cheap ... Grippen and F16 are direct analogs. Hindus in Tejas want all the same chips.

[Alex777]

Wanting and having - 2 big differences.
While the prices were about the same - there was a time of "chips".
With a significant difference in price, there will be time for money.

[Zaurbek]

Well, their modifications of Su30MKI and Rafal are not the poorest ...

[Alex777]

Quote: Zaurbek

Well, their modifications of Su30MKI and Rafal are not the poorest ...

It's like that. But do you need to change the MiG-21? And there the price was the main one, why this good is still in service with the Indians. Moreover, the cost of service also matters. And there are no special nishtyaks on Migah.

[Zaurbek]

To replace the MiG21 and 23, they saw Tejas ... there is already a Mark 2 version .... in terms of weight, it is similar to Grippen and FT-17.

[Alex777]

And what about the engines and the price of Tejas?
Or are you insisting that being able to buy 2 instead of 1 is not Indian at all?

[Zaurbek]

And what is on the market cheaper than Tejas in its size? FT-17 only ....

[sportline]

Mig has not developed a single platform in the last 30 years. Not a single new plane was launched. Sukhoi have Su-34, Su-30, Su-35, Su-57. Sukhoi has all the technologies and competencies for development. The only thing that can be done is to start assembling the Su-75 at the MIG facilities. To involve teams and meet deadlines.

[Freemason Mason]

Still not tired of dividing the skin of an unkilled bear? Every couple of days there is an article about someone's heightened interest in the unparalleled Su-75 mockup.
Maybe it is worth releasing such articles when at least preliminary agreements on the sale are reached?
So far, there is a lot of noise, and there are 0 orders.

[alexmach]

Maybe it is worth releasing such articles when at least preliminary agreements on the sale are reached?
So far, there is a lot of noise, and there are 0 orders.

The model was taken to the exhibition. He was taken to the exhibition in order to sell it, for this it is necessary to show it. The media are covering the fact that they are lucky.

[Benk]

Did you bring the Mig 35? Something about him in general silence lately

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Benk

Did you bring the Mig 35?

This fighter is of no use to anyone. An extremely unfortunate car.

[alystan]

Surprisingly well-grounded and categorical expert opinion ... although the plane itself, as if not yet in nature?

[poquello]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Quote: Benk

Did you bring the Mig 35?

This fighter is of no use to anyone. An extremely unfortunate car.

this "extremely unfortunate" makes f35 in speed, maneuver and climb rate

[seeker of truth 777]

The F-35 will see you first, now compare the MiG 35 with the AIM 120 D

[poquello]

Quote: Truth Seeker 777

The F-35 will see you first, now compare the MiG 35 with the AIM 120 D

yeah, he will also see how f22 su35 in Syria saw when su35 sat on his tail))))))))))))

[Ross xnumx]

... several (representatives?) delegation (s?) of Arab countries have already visited the Russian exhibition pavilion, which exhibits The Checkmate.

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[p0pulivox]

And at this time "peace, friendship, chewing gum", as if nothing had happened:

Moscow and Ankara are negotiating on Russia's participation in the creation of a fifth generation fighter. This was announced on Sunday, November 14, by the director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) of Russia Dmitry Shugaev.
“Russia has repeatedly expressed its readiness to assist the Republic of Turkey (in the creation of a fifth generation fighter. - Ed.) While we are at the stage of negotiations on this project,” he told RIA Novosti.
On October 18, the head of Turkey's defense industry, Ismail Demir, admitted that Ankara could buy Su-35 and Su-57 fighters from Moscow if Washington suspends the sale of F-16 fighters to Turkey. In March 2020, the United States excluded Ankara from the program to create a new generation of F-35 fighters.

[Vasyan1971]

And what about the monsters in the lower left corner in the photo? Also layouts?

[Maks1995]

And, there is the 2nd wave of PR.
One article after another without specifics ..

In the emirates themselves, nothing, IMHO, shines. There, and the Russian Air Force, there seems to be nothing in service.

And the rest will wait for at least samples. Examples of unsuccessful investments of Indians in development before the Gdaz are all.

[poquello]

Quote: Max1995

Examples of unsuccessful Indian investments in development

unsuccessful investments, planes of the 5th generation would have remained in the program

[Maks1995]

Is this humor like that? Like, "we'll throw our hats"

we ourselves have only 1 aircraft and without the promised engine, and the Indians allegedly "already had 5th generation aircraft!" ???

[poquello]

Quote: Max1995

Is this humor like that? Like, "we'll throw our hats"

we ourselves have only 1 aircraft and without the promised engine, and the Indians allegedly "already had 5th generation aircraft!" ???

with the engines that are now the Pakfa makes a raptor, and the release of the Indians naturally affected investments not only in the joint project, in spite of Russia, the Indians froze their 5th generation aircraft

[Maks1995]

Yeah, 1n has already made all the 15-year-old raptors at once. And then for some reason he fell.

And the Indians left several projects. Even disco dancers do not like to be thrown for money and break all deadlines.

Since then, they have become more suspicious of the purchases of our aviation.

"We'll throw our caps over" - it hasn't brought anyone to any good yet.

[poquello]

Quote: Max1995

all 15 year old raptors at once

well what to do if this is the best that the United States has)))))))))))))))))))))))

[FrankyStein]

Turn the chessboard? It's a strange slogan, for me personally, turning the board is associated with defeat.

[Avior]

Walk with a horse, you can't see the age of will :)))

[poquello]

Quote: FrankyStein

Turn the chessboard? It's a strange slogan, for me personally, turning the board is associated with defeat.

personally, while playing chess, superficially, on the tent the inscription "checkmate, turn the board"))))))))))))))))))

[bugaytsovs]

Mille pardon, I am not going to talk about the technical parameters of the project. But I propose to pay attention to some subtle political and economic moments associated with F35 and Checkmate. There is no doubt that the primacy in mind manipulation weapons on a global scale belongs to our sworn partners. Since they embarked on an ambitious project in terms of their multibillion-dollar costs and international coverage, they pursued at least two goals. The first is to warm your hands on the contributions of the "concession participants" and, in general, to seriously overstate the cost of the project, and the second - to harness the poor fellows into their strings so that no one can even think of extricating themselves for many decades. Are the goals clear? Are clear! Get down to business! To begin with, and in the process, a lot is invested (I did not hold a candle) funds for brainwashing. So that every native would like this very F-35 and with this set of TTD. But that was not the case: the "color differentiation of pants" comes into force! And what is allowed to Israel is not allowed, for example, to Turkey! The corruption of the project grows significantly, which, by the way, makes the project difficult to manage. The first hundreds of aircraft are produced. I envy their manufacturing base. It is what it is! Further. It turns out that the technological base does not significantly correspond to the expectations laid down in the project. The discontent of the "concessionaires" and the number of critical shortcomings of the finished F-35 are accumulating. AND...?! And here we are in all white with Checkmate! And let it be just a project. Let be! But how on time! The project is understandable according to the scheme, several times cheaper, without unnecessary and practically unrealizable bells and whistles, which has advantages in critical parameters and in the practical operation of the finished product. Add to this the well-deserved trust in our country and the complete disbelief of the whole world in the words and deeds of Americans ...
I am sure that our project has already caused serious economic damage to our sworn partners by improving the negotiating positions of disgruntled "concessionaires" and natives. Play on someone else's field and win - this is our task!