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The Checkmate pavilion at Dubai airport: Su-75 attracts interest at the airshow even before the official presentation

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The network is evaluating the interest that was aroused by the appearance of a pavilion with a layout of the promising Russian fighter Su-75 The Checkmate at the Dubai Airshow 2021. Recall that the Su-75 is being demonstrated abroad for the first time in the United Arab Emirates. For him, a special pavilion was built on the territory of the airport with the English name of the program of the fifth generation light single-engine fighter. Earlier, the layout of this promising fighter was exhibited at the international exhibition of arms and military equipment in the Moscow region.


It is noted that today Dubai is one of the few places where you can see US and Russian military aircraft next to each other. In the photographs that are published on the network, you can see the military transport aircraft of the US Air Force, UAE Air Force (US production) adjacent to the pavilion where the model of the Russian Su-75 is exhibited.

The official presentation will take place tonight (Moscow time), while sources share information that several delegations from Arab countries have already visited the Russian exhibition pavilion, where The Checkmate is on display.



It is noted that representatives of the UAE authorities are interested in the development of Russian specialists from the Sukhoi company. And this is due to the difficulties that suddenly arose before the UAE Air Force in terms of acquiring American fifth-generation F-35 fighters. Let us remind you that the deal with the United States is currently actually "frozen". And the main reason for this is called the tough position that Israel has taken. Israel is against the sale of American F-35s to neighbors in the region.

Military experts from the United Arab Emirates, who visit the exhibition in Dubai in large numbers, note that for the United Arab Emirates Air Force, interest in The Checkmate project is associated with the desire to obtain a modern multipurpose aircraft that would be distinguished by air superiority and would reliably protect the country's air borders. At the same time, such an aircraft should be distinguished by the possibility of using the most modern weapons against ground targets. Earlier it was reported that the Su-75 could eventually become a carrier of a hypersonic weapons.
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  1. Old ensign
    Old ensign 14 November 2021 15: 23
    -43
    Who might be interested in the layout? Show the plane that proved itself in the war. For example, in Syria, this checkmate will shoot down an enemy plane. After Karabakh, Bayraktars are selling well.
    1. kot423
      kot423 14 November 2021 15: 26
      +9
      And what is wrong? Sukhoi proactively developed this letak (read, with his own money). And if they sign a contract for it, then there will be money for embodiment in metal, + running-in production, + another spit in the direction of mattresses.
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 November 2021 16: 41
        +14
        Quote: kot423
        And if they sign a contract for it, then there will be money for embodiment in metal, + running-in production, + another spit in the direction of mattresses.

        Even if now no one subscribes, then the money for its creation, and accelerated, on the basis of many decisions of the Su-57, will be found. Russia is also interested in obtaining it
        1. Maks winter
          Maks winter 14 November 2021 20: 37
          +5
          The plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur began production of a new fifth-generation Russian fighter, Checkmate, also known as the Su-75. Now the company is already assembling several aircraft of this brand at the same time.

          Checkmate aircraft began to be assembled at the Gagarin aircraft plant (KnAAZ). Serial production of the car will begin in 2026. According to Mikhail Nikitushkin, the designer of the Sukhoi corporation, the new Russian aircraft is still awaiting modernization. It will soon receive an updated engine known as Product 117, which will improve the aircraft's performance. In serial production, this engine will be named AL-41F1. This is reported by "Gazeta.ru".

          The Checkmate will be equipped with both air-to-air missiles and guided air-to-surface missiles. In addition, the vehicle will carry various bombs and cannon armament. Over 15 years, 300 manned Checkmate aircraft will be produced, and an unmanned version of the aircraft will also be presented.
          https://tsargrad.tv/news/novyj-russkij-samoljot-modernizirujut-izdeliem-117-ego-uzhe-nachali-sobirat-na-aviacionnom-zavode_446415?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 14 November 2021 18: 04
        +2
        Quote: kot423
        ... if they sign a contract for him ...

        If the contract is signed, an interesting competition is planned and additional points for Russia in another competition - geopolitical! smile
      3. Serg Kam
        Serg Kam 15 November 2021 01: 05
        -1
        Sukhoi proactively developed this letak (read, with his own money)

        But the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, says that the creation of the Su-75 is entirely at the expense of the state. Whom to believe? You or Manturov?

        "Russia is ready to fully finance the creation of the fifth generation fighter Su-75 Checkmate," said the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov on the sidelines of the Eastern Economic Forum on September 3.
        "Moreover, we have a budget for this completely drawn up, both with the participation of the programs of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, and extra-budgetary funds of Rostec and the United Aircraft Corporation (United Aircraft Building Corporation). As for foreign participation, this is not excluded."

        https://iz.ru/1216541/2021-09-03/manturov-zaiavil-o-gotovnosti-rossii-sozdat-checkmate-za-svoi-schet
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 November 2021 15: 32
      +12
      You tell the states that the penguin was selling) This is marketing. Promotion of the product to the market. If you wait for a production car for presentation, then you will sell about ... zero.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 15: 40
        +3
        So there, besides Chess, there are worthy offers, one Vityaz 350E, which is worth it.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 14 November 2021 15: 34
      +2
      Quote: Old ensign
      Who might be interested in the layout?

      What about perfume? Perfume might be of interest?
      Rostec presented a perfume dedicated to the Checkmate fighter jet.
    4. Voltsky
      Voltsky 14 November 2021 16: 03
      +1
      maybe the one who partially paid for the development ?! No, we all remember how one uncle said that it was being fully developed for the money of the Russian Federation and not for any other, but we also remember that 5 years ago there were rumors that the sheikhs had either already entered or were going to enter the checkout for the development of a light fighter , it is true Migu, but given the aggressive policy of dry, it is quite possible that they were lured away.
    5. svp67
      svp67 14 November 2021 16: 17
      +5
      Quote: Old ensign
      Who might be interested in the layout?

      Those who don't even have layouts ...
      Quote: Old ensign
      Show the plane that proved itself in the war.

      Now the situation is different ... many countries have entered the race to create a competitor to the American F-35, Russia entered it last, but wants to become the first. There is a chance, now the main thing is not to miss it.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 16: 37
        +8
        Yuri Slyusar: In Komsamolsk on the Amur, the production of several SU 57s has begun !!! drinks
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 15 November 2021 02: 40
          -3
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Yuri Slyusar: In Komsamolsk on the Amur, the production of several SU 57!!! drinks

          I knew it: you can't trust ex-fishermen to broadcast on aviation topics. Born waterfowl - cannot fly!
          The production of a Russian single-engine stop fifth generation fighter Su-75 Checkmate fool
          At the Dubai Airshow, the General Director of the United Aircraft Corporation, Yuri Slyusar, said that the construction of several aircraft samples had begun at once.

          https://www.kp.ru/online/news/4515591/
          laughing
    6. Glagol1
      Glagol1 14 November 2021 18: 00
      +5
      A layout is much better than a cartoon. Correctly, that they were lucky.
    7. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 14 November 2021 19: 03
      +2
      Quote: Old ensign
      Show the plane that proved itself in the war. For example, in Syria, this checkmate will shoot down an enemy plane.
      How did the F-35 perform?
      How many air battles has the F-35 fought? - how many opponents are downed?
      There were reports of the use of the F-35B in Afghanistan, the strike was struck at the soldiers (militants ...) of the Taliban, in November 2018. And in Operation Unwavering Determination in 2019.
      The F-35 was also used by the Israeli Air Force in Syria.
      With so many "sorties", F-35s are sold in the hundreds. Total done 3530 piece.
    8. Maz
      Maz 15 November 2021 10: 12
      0
      Quote: Old ensign
      Who might be interested in the layout? Show the plane that proved itself in the war. For example, in Syria, this checkmate will shoot down an enemy plane. After Karabakh, Bayraktars are selling well.

      The Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant (KnAAZ) began assembling several promising fifth-generation Checkmate fighters at once. This was stated by the head of the UAC Yuri Slyusar.
    9. zenion
      zenion 16 November 2021 15: 30
      0
      Ukrainian mock-ups of tanks also sell well if they fit on a table and have good plastic.
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 November 2021 15: 25
    0
    And why is "Baba Yaga" against? The UAE does not seem to run into Israel? F35 that the Arabs in the air will not obey?
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 14 November 2021 15: 30
      +2
      I think, until the issue with Iran is resolved, Israel will be against any strengthening of any Arab state.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 15: 31
        +2
        And I already thought, racial discrimination?
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 14 November 2021 16: 04
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          And I already thought, racial discrimination?

          No. Ordinary Zionism. From Walter Lucker's theory:
          9. The Arab-Jewish conflict was inevitable because the Arabs could not come to terms with the creation of the Jewish state.
          10. From the Arab point of view, Zionism represented aggression, and Jewish immigration represented invasion.
          13. The main goal of Zionism was twofold: to restore Jewish self-respect and dignity in the eyes of non-Jews and to restore a Jewish national home for Jews to "live as free people in their own land, die peacefully in their own homes."

          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Сионизм
          hi
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 14 November 2021 16: 34
            -8
            Leave it, if Zionism came to you, you would not write so freely.
          2. krillon
            krillon 14 November 2021 19: 24
            0
            You are walking on thin ice. The FSB expert recognized the documentary film "Zionism", filmed in the USSR in the seventies, as extremist. Now they are friends and brothers. Type.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 15 November 2021 02: 34
              +1
              Quote: Krillon
              Now they are friends and brothers. Type.

              laughing Yes, come on! to paraphrase the famous lines:
              Israel is my brother to me,
              USA is my mother!
              I'd rather be an orphan -
              Fuck relatives like that.
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 15 November 2021 00: 15
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          And I already thought, racial discrimination?

          There was an unverified infa that the States found out about the sheikhs' interest in the Su-75 and punished the F-35 with a freeze.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 14 November 2021 16: 22
        +2
        And what does Iran have to do with the OAU? They're kind of "from different sandboxes".
      3. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 25
        +1
        Yes, he is against it, but no one has yet another 5th generation ... ... that's Israel and influences the supply of technology to the Arabs. A competitor will appear - there will be a different situation
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 14 November 2021 20: 23
          0
          I wrote that Israel will block supplies. For security reasons ...
      4. Orsis338
        Orsis338 14 November 2021 20: 14
        +2
        When did Iran become an Arab state?
    2. knn54
      knn54 14 November 2021 15: 32
      +3
      Andrey, because "Baba Yaga" is the SELECT.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 14 November 2021 15: 47
        -3
        Hinting at a relationship with the states?
        Well, if with Him, so, we have to do with it, I chose it myself. He had a couple of hundred there to choose, peoples in the sense.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 15 November 2021 15: 01
        0
        Quote: knn54
        "Baba Yaga" SELECTED.

        This is the lurid think so.
        But in fact - by God Exiled! (And this is a historical fact reflected in the Bible.) Therefore, as it was said in the old commercials - FEEL THE DIFFERENCE!
        And henceforth I ask you not to be mistaken! laughing
  3. Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 November 2021 15: 37
    +1
    Against the background of the weakening of the United States, any alternative types of weapons have a chance of success.
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    1. KCA
      KCA 14 November 2021 15: 50
      +6
      But no one will say about the serial SU-57 that it has over 900 flaws, of which 13 are critical and threaten the pilot's life.
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 14 November 2021 16: 00
        -6
        Quote: KCA
        But no one will say about the serial SU-57 that it has over 900 flaws, of which 13 are critical and threaten the pilot's life.

        Naturally he won't. Any flaw will be either state or commercial secrets. As well as about any other shortcomings of our modern fighters and other military equipment.
        The F-35 is the only such project open to the public. For the rest of the fighters, there is no such information in principle, so there is nothing to compare with. The first crashed serial Su-57, as it were, hints that there are drawbacks.
        1. KCA
          KCA 14 November 2021 16: 38
          +2
          He is not particularly open, just someone, for example, an offended Boeing, kindly asked the Pentagon to leak information to the press.
        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 30
          +1
          F35 only in the US has a couple of competitive programs F15EX, F18 for the Navy, F16 in the latest versions ... ... and all have lobbies in Congress and the army. This is where the openness of the conditional program comes from ... there is still Rafal and EF2000 on the European market. Su57 is one and that too late.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 14 November 2021 16: 29
        -6
        Quote: KCA
        But about the serial SU-57, no one will say what it has

        Well, yes ... Well, yes ... Absolutely no one ... And how familiar it is:
    2. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 14 November 2021 15: 53
      +5
      Why are you talking about something you don't understand at all?
    3. mark1
      mark1 14 November 2021 16: 06
      +7
      Yurko, can you repeat it without a pan and in a static state?
    4. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 14 November 2021 16: 33
      +4
      Quote: Yuriy71
      Screaming Roosters, bullying the whole world and dancing with "naked opa"! Laughter, simple!

      Does the embroidered shirt press on the collar? Who's got "oops naked"? Very dressed ... winter is on the nose ...
    5. poquello
      poquello 14 November 2021 17: 17
      +2
      Quote: Yuriy71
      F-35 already - 650 units and more!

      with their speed their su35 will pack
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 32
        -3
        Su35 Will not reach ... ... they will shoot like in a shooting range. Someone will light up, and someone will quietly launch rockets. And we don't have much Su35. Ф22 in USA Pieces 200
        1. poquello
          poquello 14 November 2021 17: 34
          +2
          Quote: Zaurbek
          someone will quietly launch rockets

          quietly launch silent rockets? ))))))))) and what, will it get?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 39
            -4
            Two missiles will be launched ... .... Or two F35 - 4 missiles ... ..f15EX now can carry up to 20 medium-range missiles
            1. poquello
              poquello 14 November 2021 17: 42
              +2
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Two missiles will be launched ... .... Or two F35 - 4 missiles ... ..f15EX now can carry up to 20 medium-range missiles

              ))))))))))) oh how, already f15
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 49
                -1
                Anyone can launch rockets. It is important who sees, while he himself will not be identified and will give the CU
                1. poquello
                  poquello 14 November 2021 18: 02
                  +4
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  Anyone can launch rockets. It is important who sees, while he himself will not be identified and will give the CU

                  in how, and why should he have any weapons at all, let the control center carry with him))))))))))))))))
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 14 November 2021 18: 04
                    -4
                    And so it is possible… .for this there is AWACS in large quantities …… .do not worry, by the meeting with Su35 there will be AWACS too. Yankees always fight with advantage
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 14 November 2021 18: 44
                      +5
                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      And so it is possible… .for this there is AWACS in large quantities …… .do not worry, by the meeting with Su35 there will be AWACS too. Yankees always fight with advantage

                      AWACS is a good target for c400
                      1. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 15 November 2021 11: 32
                        -1
                        He does not fly on the front page ... and the C400 cannot fly ...
                      2. Boa kaa
                        Boa kaa 15 November 2021 15: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        He does not fly on the front page ... and the C400 cannot fly ...

                        - From the second "strip" he sees the target not far ...
                        - The S-400 does not know how to fly, but it doesn’t allow others without permission either ... The air defense is called (it doesn’t fly and doesn’t let others!) laughing
                      3. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 05
                        0
                        The higher the radar, the farther it sees ... S-400 - air defense of a ship or object ... and air battles take place in different places.
                      4. poquello
                        poquello 15 November 2021 17: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        The higher the radar, the farther it sees ... S-400 - air defense of a ship or object ... and air battles take place in different places.

                        )))))))))))) You don't take the opposite effect into account, the higher it hangs, the further you can see it
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 15 November 2021 00: 21
              +1
              Quote: Zaurbek
              f15EX can now carry up to 20 medium-range missiles

              And how many of these do the States have? bully
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 15 November 2021 11: 35
                0
                The release has begun ..... it is necessary to look at the orders. And we must bear in mind that the F15 combatants will be modernized. And it should be borne in mind that these planes are already massively flying in the Air Force of Saditov, Qatar, and ordered by the Air Force of Israel. And in the assets of the US Air Force - under 200 units F22.
            3. sportline
              sportline 15 November 2021 09: 44
              +1
              Short range. Just a problem. It will glow like a Christmas tree on the air defense radar. 20 rmd is a stage for combating bairaktor-type drones in the sky over Barmaleistan. Not to fight advanced air defenses.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 15 November 2021 11: 35
                0
                AM120 up to 120km .... medium range.
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 15 November 2021 15: 45
                  0
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  AM120 up to 120km .... medium range.

                  Yes, but 110 km, this rocket should be controlled using the AFAR carrier, right up to the capture of the target by the seeker.
                  Well, who of the Su-35S will allow Penguin to do this with impunity !? Not only will the electronic warfare systems disrupt guidance, the fat-bellied one will also receive a response from the R-37 (R-77).
                  But you are right about one thing: the Yankees are a difficult opponent, so you need to prepare intensely and purposefully, using non-standard schemes and solutions to achieve victory in battle.
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 04
                    0
                    Western missiles have combined guidance .... inertial + AGSN
                    1. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 15 November 2021 16: 33
                      0
                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      inertial + AGSN

                      The flight path of the AIM-120 can consist of three sites: command-inertial, autonomous inertial and active radar.
                      When launched beyond the visual visibility of the target: - if the target does not maneuver, then the transmission of correction commands from the carrier does not occur.
                      - if the target maneuvers (after all, the fighter!), then in this case, (if the target maneuvers! ) the onboard equipment calculates the trajectory of the target and the corrected target coordinates are transmitted to the missile.
                      Corrective commands are transmitted through the side lobes of the AFAR directional diagram of the carrier aircraft with the frequency of its scanning. These commands are received by the missile using the on-board communications link receiver. With the arrival at the anticipated point, the active seeker begins to work. Target detection with RCS = 3m² occurs at D = 16-18 km
                      1. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 45
                        0
                        And what's wrong with that? A rocket appears in front of the target, 18 km away, before that it was flying in a passive form ... turns on the AGSN and everything depends on:
                        1. energy rocket
                        2. Improvements of the GOS and PP goals ...
                      2. Boa kaa
                        Boa kaa 15 November 2021 16: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        And what's wrong with that?

                        The carrier must work AFAR in active mode. And this is a signal - they are looking for / found you. Further, an energetic anti-missile maneuver and ejection of the LC ...
                        And for greater persuasiveness, launch your beater.
                        According to statistics, all battles that began on large and avg. distances, in 50% of cases ended in short maneuvering fights ...
                        But here it is not a fact that the Penguin will not be fried ...
                        AHA.
    6. Rubi0
      Rubi0 14 November 2021 17: 28
      -4
      So that's the point ... Collect the loot and cut it. What is it for you, the main thing is that foreign money will be cut in the Russian design bureaus, if they collect a little, then the designers will drank on all sorts of projects, and if there is enough, then maybe they will cut something in the metal)
    7. Stepan S
      Stepan S 14 November 2021 19: 19
      +2
      Screaming Roosters, bullying the whole world and dancing with "naked opa"! Laughter, simple!

      Great Ukr? Only there everything is real and flies.
  5. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 14 November 2021 16: 05
    +5
    The Su 75 has good commercial prospects and so this aircraft is being promoted primarily with an eye on good contracts with India, there is no doubt that it will fly, most likely they will actively use the developments on the Su 57, but that is why it was impossible to instruct to make such an aircraft MiG, breathing life into this KB, I don't understand
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 14 November 2021 16: 12
      +5
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      that's why it was impossible to instruct to make such an aircraft MiG, breathing life into this design bureau, I do not understand

      This design bureau is dead, it was absorbed by Sukhoi as part of the merger into a single corporate center for aircraft construction of the UAC.
      There are prospects, but the Su-75 was needed ten years ago.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 14 November 2021 16: 36
        +6
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        There are prospects, but the Su-75 was needed ten years ago.

        True, but the engine was not there! This is how the product "30" got close to serial production, and the idea of ​​a single-engine fighter got the right to life ... IMHO, this is exactly what it looks like ...
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 14 November 2021 16: 45
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          True, but the engine was not there! This is how the product "30"

          How was it not? Why say such nonsense?
          AL-31/41 are excellent engines, ideal for single-engine fighters. Su-75 will be on them, if the product 30 will be received, it will be much later.


          The RD-33 is worse, but it also has a single-engine fighter.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 14 November 2021 17: 10
            +3
            Quote: OgnennyiKotik
            How was it not? Why say such nonsense?

            These engines are well-known, and a couple of tons of thrust for a single-engine, as it was conceived, was apparently not enough. For single-engine engines, the engine parameters are more important, but they wanted to be no worse than the "penguin".
            Otherwise, it really would have appeared 10 years ago ... But for some reason they did not even talk about such a machine ...
          2. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 42
            0
            Initially, when forming a fleet of fighters, the USSR had to choose the American version, they also chose between F16 and F18 in the competition ... ... China followed the same path.
        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 35
          +2
          Engines - Al31-41 were ... ... the main mistake was with the MiG29 ... ... was needed. The conditional successor of the MiG23 ... ... now we would have a 4 ++ in a light performance similar to the Su35S
    2. just exp
      just exp 14 November 2021 16: 48
      0
      India is unlikely, they want a heavy double.
      and the Su-75 was ordered by the UAE (the news was about 5 years ago), and Iran and Algeria may also be interested (recently there was news that Iran is negotiating the purchase of IMHO or Su-35 or Su-75 fighters)
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 November 2021 17: 36
        -1
        India will cut Tejas they have already presented its development ... ..
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 15 November 2021 00: 32
          0
          The price of Tejas will kill him. Easily.
          The Su-75 has a very good chance.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 15 November 2021 11: 39
            0
            Su75 in the Indian version will not be cheap ..... like any 5th generation.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 15 November 2021 15: 04
              0
              They also need to change their MiG-21. As many as 150 pcs.
              So the first batch, apparently, will be ordered to us.
              Faster and cheaper to get everything.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 07
                0
                Generation 4 is no longer cheap ... Grippen and F16 are direct analogs. Hindus in Tejas want all the same chips.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 15 November 2021 16: 09
                  0
                  Wanting and having - 2 big differences.
                  While the prices were about the same - there was a time of "chips".
                  With a significant difference in price, there will be time for money.
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 22
                    0
                    Well, their modifications of Su30MKI and Rafal are not the poorest ...
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 15 November 2021 16: 24
                      0
                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      Well, their modifications of Su30MKI and Rafal are not the poorest ...

                      It's like that. But do you need to change the MiG-21? And there the price was the main one, why this good is still in service with the Indians. Moreover, the cost of service also matters. And there are no special nishtyaks on Migah.
                      1. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 30
                        0
                        To replace the MiG21 and 23, they saw Tejas ... there is already a Mark 2 version .... in terms of weight, it is similar to Grippen and FT-17.
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 15 November 2021 16: 32
                        0
                        And what about the engines and the price of Tejas? wink
                        Or are you insisting that being able to buy 2 instead of 1 is not Indian at all? bully
                      3. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 15 November 2021 16: 47
                        0
                        And what is on the market cheaper than Tejas in its size? FT-17 only ....
    3. sportline
      sportline 15 November 2021 09: 49
      +1
      Mig has not developed a single platform in the last 30 years. Not a single new plane was launched. Sukhoi have Su-34, Su-30, Su-35, Su-57. Sukhoi has all the technologies and competencies for development. The only thing that can be done is to start assembling the Su-75 at the MIG facilities. To involve teams and meet deadlines.
  6. Freemason Mason
    Freemason Mason 14 November 2021 16: 07
    -4
    Still not tired of dividing the skin of an unkilled bear? Every couple of days there is an article about someone's heightened interest in the unparalleled Su-75 mockup.
    Maybe it is worth releasing such articles when at least preliminary agreements on the sale are reached?
    So far, there is a lot of noise, and there are 0 orders.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 14 November 2021 16: 31
      +5
      Maybe it is worth releasing such articles when at least preliminary agreements on the sale are reached?
      So far, there is a lot of noise, and there are 0 orders.

      The model was taken to the exhibition. He was taken to the exhibition in order to sell it, for this it is necessary to show it. The media are covering the fact that they are lucky.
  7. Benk
    Benk 14 November 2021 16: 32
    +2
    Did you bring the Mig 35? Something about him in general silence lately
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 14 November 2021 16: 47
      -2
      Quote: Benk
      Did you bring the Mig 35?

      This fighter is of no use to anyone. An extremely unfortunate car.
      1. alystan
        alystan 14 November 2021 16: 58
        +2
        Surprisingly well-grounded and categorical expert opinion ... although the plane itself, as if not yet in nature?
      2. poquello
        poquello 14 November 2021 17: 30
        +3
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Quote: Benk
        Did you bring the Mig 35?

        This fighter is of no use to anyone. An extremely unfortunate car.

        this "extremely unfortunate" makes f35 in speed, maneuver and climb rate
        1. seeker of truth 777
          seeker of truth 777 14 November 2021 17: 50
          0
          The F-35 will see you first, now compare the MiG 35 with the AIM 120 D laughing
          1. poquello
            poquello 14 November 2021 18: 42
            +3
            Quote: Truth Seeker 777
            The F-35 will see you first, now compare the MiG 35 with the AIM 120 D laughing

            yeah, he will also see how f22 su35 in Syria saw when su35 sat on his tail))))))))))))
  8. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 November 2021 16: 35
    -7
    ... several (representatives?) delegation (s?) of Arab countries have already visited the Russian exhibition pavilion, which exhibits The Checkmate.

    repeat
  9. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 14 November 2021 17: 01
    -1
    And at this time "peace, friendship, chewing gum", as if nothing had happened:
    Moscow and Ankara are negotiating on Russia's participation in the creation of a fifth generation fighter. This was announced on Sunday, November 14, by the director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) of Russia Dmitry Shugaev.
    “Russia has repeatedly expressed its readiness to assist the Republic of Turkey (in the creation of a fifth generation fighter. - Ed.) While we are at the stage of negotiations on this project,” he told RIA Novosti.
    On October 18, the head of Turkey's defense industry, Ismail Demir, admitted that Ankara could buy Su-35 and Su-57 fighters from Moscow if Washington suspends the sale of F-16 fighters to Turkey. In March 2020, the United States excluded Ankara from the program to create a new generation of F-35 fighters.
  10. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 14 November 2021 17: 35
    0
    And what about the monsters in the lower left corner in the photo? Also layouts? belay
  11. Maks1995
    Maks1995 14 November 2021 18: 38
    -1
    And, there is the 2nd wave of PR.
    One article after another without specifics ..

    In the emirates themselves, nothing, IMHO, shines. There, and the Russian Air Force, there seems to be nothing in service.

    And the rest will wait for at least samples. Examples of unsuccessful investments of Indians in development before the Gdaz are all.
    1. poquello
      poquello 14 November 2021 23: 41
      +2
      Quote: Max1995
      Examples of unsuccessful Indian investments in development

      unsuccessful investments, planes of the 5th generation would have remained in the program
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 15 November 2021 10: 15
        -1
        Is this humor like that? Like, "we'll throw our hats"

        we ourselves have only 1 aircraft and without the promised engine, and the Indians allegedly "already had 5th generation aircraft!" ???
        1. poquello
          poquello 15 November 2021 17: 19
          0
          Quote: Max1995
          Is this humor like that? Like, "we'll throw our hats"

          we ourselves have only 1 aircraft and without the promised engine, and the Indians allegedly "already had 5th generation aircraft!" ???

          with the engines that are now the Pakfa makes a raptor, and the release of the Indians naturally affected investments not only in the joint project, in spite of Russia, the Indians froze their 5th generation aircraft
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 15 November 2021 23: 32
            0
            Yeah, 1n has already made all the 15-year-old raptors at once. And then for some reason he fell.

            And the Indians left several projects. Even disco dancers do not like to be thrown for money and break all deadlines.

            Since then, they have become more suspicious of the purchases of our aviation.

            "We'll throw our caps over" - it hasn't brought anyone to any good yet.
            1. poquello
              poquello 16 November 2021 01: 19
              0
              Quote: Max1995
              all 15 year old raptors at once

              well what to do if this is the best that the United States has)))))))))))))))))))))))
  12. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein 14 November 2021 21: 13
    0
    Turn the chessboard? It's a strange slogan, for me personally, turning the board is associated with defeat.
    1. Avior
      Avior 14 November 2021 21: 30
      0

      Walk with a horse, you can't see the age of will :)))
    2. poquello
      poquello 14 November 2021 23: 35
      0
      Quote: FrankyStein
      Turn the chessboard? It's a strange slogan, for me personally, turning the board is associated with defeat.

      personally, while playing chess, superficially, on the tent the inscription "checkmate, turn the board"))))))))))))))))))
  13. bugaytsovs
    bugaytsovs 14 November 2021 23: 43
    -1
    Mille pardon, I am not going to talk about the technical parameters of the project. But I propose to pay attention to some subtle political and economic moments associated with F35 and Checkmate. There is no doubt that the primacy in mind manipulation weapons on a global scale belongs to our sworn partners. Since they embarked on an ambitious project in terms of their multibillion-dollar costs and international coverage, they pursued at least two goals. The first is to warm your hands on the contributions of the "concession participants" and, in general, to seriously overstate the cost of the project, and the second - to harness the poor fellows into their strings so that no one can even think of extricating themselves for many decades. Are the goals clear? Are clear! Get down to business! To begin with, and in the process, a lot is invested (I did not hold a candle) funds for brainwashing. So that every native would like this very F-35 and with this set of TTD. But that was not the case: the "color differentiation of pants" comes into force! And what is allowed to Israel is not allowed, for example, to Turkey! The corruption of the project grows significantly, which, by the way, makes the project difficult to manage. The first hundreds of aircraft are produced. I envy their manufacturing base. It is what it is! Further. It turns out that the technological base does not significantly correspond to the expectations laid down in the project. The discontent of the "concessionaires" and the number of critical shortcomings of the finished F-35 are accumulating. AND...?! And here we are in all white with Checkmate! And let it be just a project. Let be! But how on time! The project is understandable according to the scheme, several times cheaper, without unnecessary and practically unrealizable bells and whistles, which has advantages in critical parameters and in the practical operation of the finished product. Add to this the well-deserved trust in our country and the complete disbelief of the whole world in the words and deeds of Americans ...
    I am sure that our project has already caused serious economic damage to our sworn partners by improving the negotiating positions of disgruntled "concessionaires" and natives. Play on someone else's field and win - this is our task!