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The gold of the party, or how China economists lead by the nose

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The gold of the party, or how China economists lead by the noseThe economic situation in recent times seems quite calm outwardly, but an analysis of world trends suggests that there is no question of any lull. Recent reports from global markets make it necessary to pay special attention to the process, which concerns transactions in precious metals and, in particular, in gold.

It is reported that the leading consumers of gold in the world, India and China, have decided to reduce the import of this product to their countries. The fall in demand for gold from Beijing and New Delhi is due to several factors. The first factor, according to economists, is that the jewelers of these countries are experiencing financial difficulties due to the fact that both domestic and foreign buyers of gold jewelry have calmed down their appetites, and therefore sales of gold jewelry have waned. The price of gold in India alone, which is the main exporter of gold jewelry in the world, has become an indecent rate of growth ...

The second factor is that, both in China and in India, the economic growth rate has slowed down lately, which does not allow for the implementation of earlier plans for the processing of so-called marketable gold in production in these countries. That crisis, according to mostly Western experts, suggests that India and especially China decided to postpone the purchase of marketable gold in the previous volumes.

Meanwhile, there are other opinions on the transactions in the gold market carried out over the past months of the current year of the PRC. A number of experts believe that the slowdown in the purchase of precious metal by Beijing is in fact a lie. In reality, China not only did not reduce gold purchases, but brought it to record levels. At least, this is evidenced by the famous American blogger Tyler Durden, who believes that very soon China’s reserves in the form of gold will have to reach 6000 tons (or have already reached). Tyler Durden, despite his emphatically cinematic nickname, is very popular in the United States, and many readers of his posts suspect that there is a person behind the pseudonym who either represents the United States financial system or is involved in the analytical services of the United States.

In general, it is up to each individual to decide whether the words of this gentleman can be trusted, but there is a definite tendency that, at least, does not contradict the thoughts of Durden.

So, many informational economic sites claim that the demand for gold in the world is falling, the main buyers of gold, as raw materials, are reducing the rate of purchases. It would seem that such a situation should inevitably lead to a decrease in prices for the precious metal, while prices are rising ...

After all, the classical law of economics should work: if there is no demand for a product, then the sale of such a product must either be abandoned altogether, or simply reduced to the price. Naturally, no one is going to give up gold, at least, because it plays an essential regulatory role in the modern economic model of the world. Who has more gold reserves, it is easier for him to deal with disparate crises. But if no one intends to refuse, then it’s time to reduce the price.

But it was not there! At the end of last week, gold was trading at the price of 1773 dollars per ounce, although the day before the price was 1766 dollars. If you look at the change in the world price of the precious metal in August and the first half of September of the current year, it turns out that the increase was more than 10%!

Many analysts are inclined to see the “new achievements” of the Fed in the unexpectedly emerging rapid growth of gold prices. These achievements are a new quantitative easing program from the US Federal Reserve. The Fed is going to take money literally from the air, or rather from the finished product compartment of the American printing press, to buy bonds, trying to lower the level of interest rates advancing on the throat of the American economy. In other words, the banks are again given virtually unsubstantiated dollar bills, which they (banks) will be able to use for the new stage of business and population lending. Such a program is called QE-3. As you know, the first two programs of quantitative easing did not lead to any cardinal positive changes ...

Obviously, there is no need to be major experts in the field of economics to assume that QE-3 is a measure that will further aggravate the crisis. If actually virtual money is given to businesses and citizens, which have not yet dried up after leaving the printing press, and then they plan that all these people who have received loans will be ready to pay with real (secured) funds, then this is just a utopia . In this regard, you can expect QE-4 and even QE-444, but the debt will still grow.

If we return to the topic of the fact that the world market for gold, with a rise in prices for precious metals, reacted precisely to the attempts of the Fed, this seems more like an argument that was pulled by the ears. First, the quantitative easing program was announced in the first half of September, and gold prices have been rising for at least 2,5 months. It turns out that those who trade in world markets in gold, foresaw that Mr. Bernanke (the head of the Fed) will decide to launch his landmark program QE-3 in September. That is unlikely.
Secondly, Ben Bernanke himself declares that QE-3 is not a panacea, but in fact another test of the search for ways out of the crisis. True, this test is more like a brick being thrown into a sea, so that it grabs it and swims towards the shore ...

It turns out that there is no obvious connection between the Fed program and the rise in gold prices. But so because of what, then, the price of this particular product grows, which, it seems, has become less, and they generally look at the jewels, as they say, indifferently? .. And here is just the post of that mysterious American blogger Tyler Durden, who claims that perhaps China is just taking everyone’s nose. In other words, statements about China’s decline in purchases of gold, including gold for its reserves, may not be true. Of course, everyone can try to refute such a maxim, but after all, China is a country that is used to conducting economic policy in a very peculiar way. The same Americans have repeatedly argued that Beijing secretly holds the yuan exchange rate so that Chinese-made products are in better conditions than those of the United States. And China looks at all these accusations and says that, they say, nothing of the kind, these are all your false accusations. So what? And nothing? He continues to quietly bend his line, whether the Americans like it or not.

So what prevents China and gold "little by little" to buy, but not advertise their actions? So, nothing this work on the possible accumulation of gold reserves by China would not have issued if it were not for the mechanisms of the market. This is like water in communicating vessels: if it diminishes in one level, it will certainly increase in the other.

But if the Chinese authorities really decided to do such a manipulation with gold, then why secretly, and why do they need it at all? The answer to this question may be the following: China can buy large quantities of gold for its reserves secretly, in order to be able to make purchases of precious metals for reserve at a reasonable price. After all, as soon as the world finds out that China imports new tons of gold during the crisis, the price of this metal will jump to record levels, which will not allow Beijing to conduct purchases in previous volumes. And about "why he does it," so firstly, solid reserves in gold will not prevent any country in the world (and China, too), and secondly, at one point, China can simply present its vast reserves to the world economic community that will be quite capable of finally bury the already weakened domination of the dollar as the main reserve currency.
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  1. Lech e-mine
    Lech e-mine 17 September 2012 08: 22
    +4
    Hmm, instead of the evil world policeman (USA) A GOOD policeman WILL COME
    The first set and sets the order with the help of BOMB AND ROCKET - the second will quietly and not noticeably crush the economies of other countries.
    1. Joker
      Joker 17 September 2012 08: 48
      +1
      I like the United States more, they have the hell out of them, and China is nearby.
      1. Dmitriy69
        Dmitriy69 17 September 2012 09: 01
        +17
        Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
        Popular wisdom.
      2. boris.uryadkin
        boris.uryadkin 17 September 2012 10: 14
        +2
        The Chinese do not know how to fight, in 30 years Zhukov defeated the Japanese army with small forces, which occupied China (they were gouged after the revolution) and, therefore, the Japanese refused to invite Hitler to participate in the war with the USSR.
        1. Suvorov000
          Suvorov000 17 September 2012 11: 44
          +5
          They may not be able to fight, but they’ll definitely throw their hats
          1. hrych
            hrych 17 September 2012 22: 13
            +3
            Fox Straw Hats.
          2. Check
            Check 18 September 2012 10: 08
            +1
            they don’t throw it, the production of caps also costs money))), besides, I doubt that the bulk will enthusiastically run in our direction with caps for the country in which, God forbid, they earn 30 bucks a month.
    2. Dmitriy69
      Dmitriy69 17 September 2012 08: 54
      +11
      It is likely that there is a hidden replacement of the dollar with gold in the state reserve. What is it for? Is the dollar kirdyk approaching ?!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 17 September 2012 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: Dmitriy69
        What is it for? Is the dollar kirdyk approaching ?!

        And you probably have a lot of dollars sewn into the mattress, well, in that case I recommend you sell them, otherwise in the near future you can use them only as toilet paper. There was an article about the fact that by the end of the year they will give for a dollar on the exchange in face. Protect your health - buy rubles or gold.
        1. Dmitriy69
          Dmitriy69 17 September 2012 10: 00
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And you probably have a lot of dollars in the mattress

          What are these inferences that led the shaft to this conclusion?
          The last time I dealt with this garbage was in the last century (literally).
        2. Morgan stanley
          Morgan stanley 17 September 2012 22: 31
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          -buy rubles

          still would Zimbabwean dollars offered b ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 September 2012 08: 22
            0
            Quote: MorganStanley

            still would Zimbabwean dollars offered b ..

            Do you not like rubles?
      2. pinachet
        pinachet 17 September 2012 21: 01
        0
        everything can be .. but rumors about "amero" do not appear from scratch.!
        I mean the currency that supposedly will be in the United States conad and Mexico .. and supposedly already printed!
      3. hrych
        hrych 17 September 2012 22: 18
        +5
        That is gold, that green paper cannot be smeared on bread, and an airplane cannot be fueled. The Chinese would have listened to Jackie Chan, in "Armor of God 2", at the end of the movie they are spanking in the desert, the Arabs pointed their pistol, Chan gives them an ingot of gold, and the Arabs say; "Why do we need this shit, give water!"
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 17 September 2012 09: 00
      +1
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      Hmm, instead of the evil world policeman (USA) A GOOD policeman WILL COME

      There is a struggle! It’s only for us! America just won't give up, something is brewing!
    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak 17 September 2012 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      the second will quietly and not noticeably crush the economies of other countries.


      The system is normal, to begin with, in Dalniy in each city there will be Chinatown, then in Chinatown, self-government will be introduced, then ....
      1. Sleg
        Sleg 17 September 2012 20: 22
        0
        Moreover, in America and Europe they have already done this.
      2. Gansische 1
        Gansische 1 7 November 2012 22: 03
        0
        Late, already have ...
    5. biglow
      biglow 17 September 2012 09: 33
      +1
      Leha e-mine,
      China is not afraid of us. The Chinese economy is slowing down and it will no longer be able to reach the previous levels of growth. The reason is many, starting with the demographic, when politics has one family, one child, has borne fruit and now people themselves do not want to have more children, so there are problems development of infrastructure that could not go beyond economically developed areas.
      There are no pensions in China to this day, if you start paying them, a large percentage of the budget will go to retirement ... and so on. There are people who make money on bad news, this is one such example
      1. Karish
        Karish 17 September 2012 10: 55
        0
        Quote: biglow
        China is not afraid of us. The Chinese economy is slowing down, and it will no longer be able to reach its previous growth targets.

        China's GDP - 7.3 trillion , Russia's GDP - 1.86 trillion.
        Even if they stand at all, and we will fulfill Putin’s precepts to double GDP (which will not happen, but nonetheless) by 2020, all the same, this is only half of China.
        1. SSR
          SSR 17 September 2012 11: 39
          +1



          China's GDP - 7.3 trillion , Russia's GDP - 1.86 trillion.
          7.3 / 1.86 = 3.92
          and 1.5 yards versus 1.4 million in general, do not look bad))
        2. pinachet
          pinachet 17 September 2012 21: 04
          +1
          they have at least 1.5 ppm of people, and we have 140 mil.
      2. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 17 September 2012 11: 07
        +2
        Quote: biglow
        when politics is one family one child


        Recently I read interesting data: - 1 family, one child only in cities, this law does not apply to rural areas. In addition, the Chinese cloud go to work in other countries, continuing to provide financial assistance to relatives remaining in China, this is also a good cash infusion into the economy.
    6. Goga
      Goga 17 September 2012 10: 24
      +4
      Lech, e-mine - Colleague, but here at least burst, if by 91 the Chinese economy was somewhere 10% of the USSR, now we have no more than 10% of the Chinese - a no brainer who will order the music .... Another thing is that our neighbors, on the sly, accumulated empty dollar dollars, are wisely converted into "eternal" metal - apparently they are preparing a present for their main trading "partner", as if we, with our dollar-tied financial system "under the distribution", do not fall ... ... hi
      1. biglow
        biglow 17 September 2012 10: 46
        0
        Quote: Gogh

        China has more than a trillion US debt securities, Japan is in second place, so it is unlikely to be able to jump off
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom 17 September 2012 20: 50
          0
          Yes, stop all of you from being afraid of China, we, in comparison with the rest of the world, we have real brothers forever! China is busy with Japan, they are practically starting a war, they have Taiwan there and their boss is America, then there are some disputes with India. And we, the Chinese, are a faithful ally, supplying them with free will with energy and raw materials. Then we have more atomic bombs than the Chinese. We absolutely do not need to be afraid of them. All these fabrications about the Chinese threat are the machinations of enemies. Their super goal: to quarrel China and Russia so that we fought with them, just as they quarreled with Germany in 1941.
    7. patriot64
      patriot64 17 September 2012 19: 25
      0
      Hmm ... hmm ... And according to Wikipedia, China's gold reserve for 2012 is just over one thousand tons. Where did five more come from ?! Something doesn't add up ...
      1. crazyrom
        crazyrom 17 September 2012 20: 44
        0
        Quote: patriot64
        And according to Wikipedia, China's gold reserve for 2012 is just over one thousand tons


        And you click the [edit] button on Wikipedia and correct it. At the same time, you should understand that you cannot believe in such things, because any loafer can go in and fix it. In general, there are people whose work is to sit for days on end and edit Wikipedia, to write there what some people need.
  2. bairat
    bairat 17 September 2012 08: 30
    -11
    Gold at the current rate of NTP is a dubious commodity for saving. Already learned to make artificial diamonds and rubies, gold is next in line.
    1. Slayer
      Slayer 17 September 2012 08: 38
      +8
      I’ll tell you, as a chemist, if you manage to take an electron from mercury and get gold, then such gold will cost much more than real, I can’t just imagine what the hellish reaction should be there so that mercury can tear out the electron while it’s not possible. In theory, the mercury-196 isotope can be converted into gold-197 using nuclear fusion, but such gold will be truly priceless
      1. bairat
        bairat 17 September 2012 08: 53
        +10
        I’ll answer as a philosopher, the history of mankind is a complete victory over the impossible.
        ps. thanks for the minus.
      2. Straus_zloy
        Straus_zloy 17 September 2012 09: 16
        +6
        I’ll tell you as a chemist, if you manage to take an electron from mercury and get gold, then such gold will cost much more than real, I can’t just imagine what the hellish reaction is there it should be so that mercury can pull out an electron, while this is impossible.

        1. To get gold from mercury, you need to pick up PROTON, and excess neutrons will crumble themselves

        2. "Infernal reaction" is quite feasible on accelerators

        3. It really will be very expensive.
      3. Su24
        Su24 17 September 2012 09: 17
        +2
        But wouldn’t it just be a mercury ion in this case?
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom 17 September 2012 20: 46
          +1
          Quote: Su24
          But wouldn’t it just be a mercury ion in this case?


          Well, bad comrade taught chemistry what you will do. (yes, there will be an ion. To make gold you need to tear off the proton).
      4. Genera
        Genera 18 September 2012 08: 56
        +2
        How many two hundred years ago aluminum was more expensive than gold. They also assumed that it would always be so, but now you can just walk along the street and pick up gum.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 17 September 2012 08: 59
      0
      Quote: bairat
      Already learned to make artificial diamonds and rubies

      So what? They stand accordingly .......
      1. bairat
        bairat 17 September 2012 09: 05
        +1
        Well, what? The value of diamond has become a purely subjective value, natural stones are valued, but experts distinguish them from artificial ones only by the presence of flaws in the structure.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 17 September 2012 11: 39
          -2
          Quote: bairat
          Diamond value has become a purely subjective value, natural stones are valued,

          That's just the point that natural! Give 5 thousands for the artificial, and several orders of magnitude more for the natural!
          Quote: bairat
          but experts distinguish them from artificial ones only by the presence of flaws in the structure.

          Yes, because their nature "made" for many centuries, and these are hastily sculpted under great pressure! hi
          1. bairat
            bairat 17 September 2012 13: 27
            +1
            Artificial stones have a perfect structure.
            By the way, it turns out that the earth’s core contains a lot of gold, during the planet’s birth, all this good, together with iron, nickel and platinum, flowed into the center. So earthlings, in principle, are very rich people)))
          2. Liasenski
            Liasenski 17 September 2012 14: 00
            0
            they "mold" diamonds here in Minsk, on order they can make a beloved from the ashes, put such a diamond into a ring and a little dear little man on your finger (horror), orders come mainly from the USA. This is me for information more, although to be honest this is not for me, it is better from simple graphite.
          3. Rockets
            Rockets 17 September 2012 15: 16
            0

            nycsson писал
            <nature "made" for many centuries>

            We have these diamonds ... Like the cat Matroskin, shoe polish, from the factory where his relative lived ^^
            Interesting news (old age)

            Declassified an old diamond deposit in Siberia. Found in the 70s and classified ...

            "If we take the current consumption of industrial diamonds per unit, then the predicted resources of the Popigai deposit will be enough for the whole world for three thousand years."

            http://lenta.ru/news/2012/09/16/diamond/
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 September 2012 09: 09
      +6
      Quote: bairat
      Gold at the current rate of NTP is a dubious commodity for saving

      It is very doubtful, to see waste paper in the form of a hundred dollar bill seems preferable to you, what can I say, success to you business hi
      1. bairat
        bairat 17 September 2012 09: 24
        0
        You quickly draw conclusions. Where did I say that?
        This is the problem of the current economy - there is no ideal means of accumulation. Gold, firstly, as I said, can depreciate if they find a method of production, and secondly, with a global cataclysm of a can of stew, a stew can have a large cost of a piece of gold comparable in weight. I’m not talking about dollars, from day to day everything can collapse.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 September 2012 09: 32
          +2
          Quote: bairat
          You quickly draw conclusions

          Just a guess.
          Quote: bairat
          This is the problem of the current economy - there is no ideal means of accumulation

          At all times, it was gold, the only metal that a person can not resist.
          Quote: bairat
          Gold in the first place, as I said, can depreciate if they find a production method

          Vryatli it will depreciate taking into account the approaching and inevitable collapse of the US economy, and the fact that they will start to do it artificially, well, mankind has been dreaming about this for centuries, only things are there now.
          Quote: bairat
          secondly, in a global cataclysm a can of stew can have a large cost of a piece of gold comparable in weight

          And what will the dollar or other paper cost, absolutely 0. But for gold, someone will sell you a jar of stewed meat, the question is price, and traders will not disappear even with a global cataclysm, this is human nature.
          1. bairat
            bairat 17 September 2012 09: 43
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            At all times, it was gold, the only metal that a person can not resist.

            By the way, about all the times when the Spaniards began to import tons of Indian gold, the price of it was equal to the price of silver.
            1. Robin_3ON
              Robin_3ON 17 September 2012 11: 21
              +3
              The most important resources are energy, food, water ....
        2. Liasenski
          Liasenski 17 September 2012 14: 05
          0
          Before the last crisis, our Belarusian managed to buy dollars and put the rest into his own real estate, after the collapse he exchanged a hug for the Belarusian and re-bought the real estate, the family remained in positive territory. I think it was lucky, but this does not happen often, it’s a risk, it’s not known what will collapse, although everything was clear with our ruble then.
  3. nycsson
    nycsson 17 September 2012 08: 58
    0
    In reality, China not only did not reduce its purchases of gold, but brought it to record levels.

    This is closer to the truth! More than once I read materials that confirm this! So China seriously decided to jump off the dollar!
    1. biglow
      biglow 17 September 2012 09: 17
      0
      nycsson,
      China has more than a trillion US debt securities, Japan is in second place, so it is unlikely to be able to jump off
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 17 September 2012 11: 35
        0
        Quote: biglow
        China has more than a trillion US debt securities, Japan is in second place, so it is unlikely to be able to jump off

        They can ask for gold for them. Or they will be calculated! They will be put up for auction. There are many options!
  4. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 17 September 2012 09: 19
    +1
    again, some kind of backstage games are economic puppeteers ...
  5. Su24
    Su24 17 September 2012 09: 19
    -3
    Quietly, China will never become like the United States, even if the yuan becomes the world currency, and the Chinese economy will overtake the American one (so far it is almost three times less).
  6. with
    with 17 September 2012 09: 39
    -3
    The answer to this question may be as follows: China can buy large quantities of gold for their reserves are secretiveabout to be able to shop precious metals for reserve at a bargain price.

    I wonder how the author imagines this ???

  7. Averias
    Averias 17 September 2012 09: 48
    0
    Fuss in the gold market has been going on for a long time. Everyone says that we allegedly do not buy it, but ourselves to a quiet place .... In addition, many hide their own real stocks. As I understand it, the money market has been full for a long time ...... That’s how they intrigue with the little gold as a measure of manipulation in geopolitics.
  8. tan0472
    tan0472 17 September 2012 09: 52
    +3
    I heard that China has strategic stocks of various metals (in particular iron) and they can even affect world prices. Reads iron to go up - they adjust in the direction necessary for themselves. The USA has oil reserves. And what does Russia have? (I do not mean stocks of gasoline for military needs).
  9. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 17 September 2012 10: 02
    0
    Well done comrades huebbin so keep strangling uncle sam and strangle
    to the heavenly end! drinks
  10. Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 17 September 2012 10: 42
    +3
    This year, I decided to de-rate my savings and bought 20 grams of gold in the bank (and because there is no confidence in the currency - at any moment the dollar, the euro, and the hryvnia and the ruble may not fall).
    Maybe that's how it affected world prices ???
    1. El13
      El13 17 September 2012 17: 55
      +1
      Did you get a gold coin in your hands or a certificate for a gold coin?
      1. Andrey_K
        Andrey_K 17 September 2012 20: 46
        +2
        On hand of course.
        Packed in a plastic certificate - it looks very nice.
        It can even go for a gift (if you need someone dear).
        1. El13
          El13 18 September 2012 00: 34
          0
          It’s great, because they’ve come up with all kinds of metal accounts now ... in case of a crash, they’ll end up in the same place as the rest of the money ...
  11. Butterfly net
    Butterfly net 17 September 2012 11: 16
    +1
    If we return to the topic of the fact that the world market for gold, with a rise in prices for precious metals, reacted precisely to the attempts of the Fed, this seems more like an argument that was pulled by the ears. First, the quantitative easing program was announced in the first half of September, and gold prices have been rising for at least 2,5 months. It turns out that those who trade in world markets in gold, foresaw that Mr. Bernanke (the head of the Fed) will decide to launch his landmark program QE-3 in September. That is unlikely.

    It’s ridiculous even Bernanke’s type himself decided to launch his landmark QE-3 program in September. The Fed has long been a well-known banking company. The owners of this company are the Rothschilds, the Morgans, the opengheimers, etc. for 2.5 months and began to buy gold, they are to blame for its growth and not China
  12. svs
    svs 17 September 2012 11: 55
    +3
    Maybe in the article the author guessed the situation or maybe not, she doesn’t draw on analytics ... and who knows their Chinese, they’re tricky.
    I generally have the impression that the development scenario in China is planned for 150 years and quite clearly, life makes adjustments to the plans but they do not recede from the general line. They are very consistent, this is just not enough for our state - doctrines for 20 years are accepted for 5 years and then fucked up for a year ...
    And China, you just look what he did to localize the silicone production! Huge amounts of money have been invested in the development of rare-earth metals mining, ecology, disputes in the WTO are poached, for the result - they are leaders in the production of semiconductors and this program has been implemented for several years.
  13. Nechai
    Nechai 17 September 2012 12: 07
    +2
    Quote: biglow
    now people themselves do not want to have more children

    Want something they want. And couples born and raised in families with ONE child are ALLOWED to have a second child now. Other families can also, by paying a very significant lump sum, redeem such a right. For a middle Chinese family, this is possible ONLY through the combined financial efforts of the WHOLE CLAN of relatives. Actually, you can give birth as much as you want, BUT it will be LITERALLY ILLEGAL NON-CITIZENS (there are especially many of them in rural areas) ... And one more detail, families want to have ONLY BOYS! It has already come to the point that doctors are forbidden (article of the Criminal Code with a serious sentence) to report, according to the results of an ultrasound examination, the sex of the developing fetus until the gestational age of 7 months. If, nevertheless, the parents find out before 7 months that they will give birth to a girl, anyway, but an abortion will be performed. "Deficiency" of brides is at least 50%. Naturally, the question arises before the country's leadership, either to import them their "halves" - which is not acceptable, or to find a successful method of "utilization" of the excess male population. The third way is polyandry, as in Tibet it is not acceptable according to religious and historical traditions. Simply put, because of the traditionally allocated place in the family for a woman.
    Quote: Gogh
    еby 91, the Chinese economy was somewhere around 10% from the USSR, now we have no more than 10% of the Chinese

    Before the adoption and successful implementation of the course ON BUILDING CAPITALISM with a human face, instead of hello, good afternoon, people in the PRC greeted each other when they saw each other with a question: "Have you eaten today?"
    The greatest danger that so far worries the population of the coastal provinces of the PRC is the war unleashed against them by JAPAN. Moreover, only an option is considered, the bacteriological secretly launched war.
    About Russia, their associative series, expressed by most different sectors of the population (what and how they think and represent us):
    - coldly
    - expensive fruits and vegetables
    - the government is stealing
    - evil people
    1. Gemar
      Gemar 18 September 2012 09: 57
      +2
      Valery, you are absolutely right! good + + +
      In addition to your quote:
      Quote: Nechai
      About Russia, their associative series, expressed by most different sectors of the population (what and how they think and represent us):
      - coldly
      - expensive fruits and vegetables
      - the government is stealing
      - evil people

      On my own behalf, the Chinese are very suspicious people. So, having heard a story about the Russian Federation from their fellow countryman, they consider it the truth in the first instance. Often from a Chinese interlocutor you can hear: "Is it true that all your girls are prostitutes?" (although there are an order of magnitude more prostitutes in China, as the respected Nechai wrote, "families want to have ONLY BOYS", so there are a lot of prostitutes and homosexuals in the PRC), "Is it true that Russians are afraid of us?" ... belay
      And the questions are clearly rhetorical! There is no point in responding with a parry to the formed opinion of the Chinese - you will be ridiculed, called an ignoramus and Laobaisin'om (stupid bumpkin).
      I supplement your initiative series:
      - it's cold (YES AND THIS COLD, IN JUSTICE, SHOULD BELONG TO US)
      - expensive fruits and vegetables (EVERYTHING EXPENSIVE!)
      - the government is stealing (ALL STEAL)
      - evil people (BECAUSE PROGUITOS, DRUGS, ALCOHOLICS)
      - RUSSIANS ARE AFRAID OF US (like the Americans)
      - STUPID DONES (EASILY SUBJECT TO DECEPTION, CONFIDENT)
      - TRANJAIRS (in the PRC almost an abusive word 浪费 Langfei)
      - ALL RUSSIAN SLAVES IN ITS CONSCIOUSNESS

      Something like this. I can write a lot more negative things about the Chinese, about "how the Russian and the Chinese are brothers forever." But most importantly:
      Quote: Nechai
      "Deficiency" of brides is at least 50%

      All Chinese acquaintances who have a lot of money ask them to find Russian brides. And if before there were no requirements for the "quality" of the bride, now the Chinese, owning a bunch of attendants, are beginning to show off. Like, give them a model with knowledge of Chinese and English. I, as before, send the "suitors" to hell - I don't want the children of my neighbors to loudly chomp and cough up in my presence, calling me stupid, just because I don't look like a pig in my behavior.
      GLORY TO RUSSIA!
  14. Afftar
    Afftar 17 September 2012 12: 53
    +1
    Quote: Nechai
    - evil people


    )) Evil people who can pile on, by the very tomatoes.

    By the way about gold, mark one interesting moment. About him for some reason few speak, but the price of gold holds and even continues to grow, despite the fact that it began to be mined more. Those deposits where it was not profitable to extract earlier are now being developed in full. That is, demand is not just standing still, it is growing steadily, because even increasing production cannot satisfy demand so that prices begin to decline.
  15. Nechai
    Nechai 17 September 2012 13: 57
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    Quote: Afftar
    For some reason, few people talk about it, but the price of gold holds on and even continues to rise

    Yes, so that ahead of time, until they are prepared, do not cause explosive excitement. On the contrary, people assure that investing in a coin (banking) is not profitable. Remember at least the decree of Vladimir Vladimirovich that Au-Aurum is not a monetary entity.
    "Evil people who can pile up to the very tomatoes." - and their internal and external propaganda is just aimed at instilling in their own and around the world confidence that it is impossible to withstand the PRC. They say we will crush it with numbers, skills, and technique. Plus physical endurance, discipline, widespread readiness for self-sacrifice. Clearly manage the information and media space. While. But the historically inherent internal contradictions are not only not resolved, but more and more are superimposed on them ...
  16. Forward
    Forward 17 September 2012 14: 08
    +1
    Gold is an absolutely liquid commodity and there is nothing to be done ... request
  17. vvpll
    vvpll 17 September 2012 18: 17
    +3
    I’ll tell you as a chemist, if you manage to take an electron from mercury and get gold, then such gold will cost much more than real, I can’t just imagine what kind of hellish reaction there should be so that mercury can tear out the electron until it’s impossible

    Here she is, the first victim of the exam. wink
  18. yurchen
    yurchen 18 September 2012 16: 40
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    and the small box opens simply, the large gold exchanges "belong" to one clan, the so-called clan that dominates the "banking international" and the value of gold is set "on instructions" declaratively, it is this clan that is fighting the pro-American elite, and China? China has always been pragmatic, and it will buy gold simply by definition, as much as it can, it is clear that it is not profitable for it to increase its price by this fact.

    the gold exchange rate will rise, as this weakens the dollar, and before its controlled collapse (dollar) or serious default, the price of gold should begin to grow by leaps and bounds, such is the tactic