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Lukashenko wanted to place "several divisions" of Iskander-M OTRK on the border with the European Union

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The Belarusian leader intends to receive Russian operational-tactical missile systems "Inskander-M". According to him, several divisions of OTRK could significantly cool the ardor of Western countries.


Belarus needs missile systems capable of hitting targets at a great distance, Lukashenko said. At present, Belarus has a "Polonez" MLRS with a firing range of 300 km, but this is not enough. At the same time, the Russian Iskander-M OTRK has a declared range of 500 km. The Belarusian president would like to place "several divisions" in the western and southern directions in the border area, as they say, "just in case."

According to Lukashenko, he has already raised the issue of the delivery of missile systems in conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin. He told about this in an interview with the magazine. "National Defense"... Strengthening the defense is necessary against the background of difficult relations with the European Union, which has been completely spoiled recently. Brussels blames Minsk for a new migration crisis.

Note that recently Belarus has been actively purchasing Russian weapons. Lukashenko said in September that Minsk intends to spend $ 1 billion on equipping the army. Among the weapons that Belarus intends to purchase in the near future were the S-400 Triumph air defense systems, Pantsir-S air defense missile systems, Tor-M2 air defense systems, Su-30SM multipurpose fighters, and other weapons. The issue of re-equipping the Belarusian army with a new Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is being considered, batch weapons entered for experimental military operation.

In addition, Minsk opened the country's airspace to Russian long-range bombers and strategic missile carriers. Now Russian planes will patrol over Belarus on a permanent basis.
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  1. Chekmarev
    Chekmarev 14 November 2021 07: 27
    +7
    From this news, Ukrainians and Lithuanians will start hysterical :)))). Well done Father!
    1. alex neym_2
      alex neym_2 14 November 2021 07: 33
      +13
      Well, what do you want from Batsi - he needs to protect the Yamal-Geyrop pipeline from saboteurs on Ambrams.
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 14 November 2021 07: 51
      -4
      The Belarusian leader intends to receive Russian operational-tactical missile systems "Inskander-M". According to him, several divisions of OTRK could significantly cool the ardor of Western countries.


      Petya is wearing a grenade on you, you will pull this one over and over the head of his reptile, over the head ...


      watch 1h09m
    3. Asad
      Asad 14 November 2021 07: 53
      +10
      Where is the good fellow? From his policy of Russia, one hemorrhoids !.
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 November 2021 08: 22
        +1
        Quote: ASAD
        Where is the good fellow? From his policy of Russia, one hemorrhoids !.

        Now more than. But all these "uracals" thought, who will pay for it? Again, Batko is going to buy something from us, but AT OUR EXPENSE, that is, a loan. And what is he going to give?
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 14 November 2021 10: 10
          +7
          Quote: svp67
          but AT OUR ACCOUNT, that is, a loan.

          Yes. At our expense. Denyuzhka loves our account, especially when it comes to loans
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 November 2021 11: 01
            +2
            Quote: Tusv
            Yes. At our expense
            Did he pay off the old one? And how did you do it?
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 14 November 2021 11: 14
              +4
              Quote: svp67
              Did he pay off the old one? And how did you do it?

              I am not a credit institution that issued a loan to Grigorich. But I can assume that the loans and the stupidity of the "partners" led to the real integration of the Union State, and not the declared
              1. svp67
                svp67 14 November 2021 11: 16
                +1
                Quote: Tusv
                But I can assume that the loans and the stupidity of the "partners" led to the real integration of the Union State, and not the declared

                Not without it
              2. sustav75
                sustav75 15 November 2021 10: 40
                0
                There is enough stupidity from all sides. One running around Lukashenka with a machine gun in the image of Rambo, with his son, which is only worth it. Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are ...
              3. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 01
                0
                Quote: Tusv
                But I can assume that the loans and the stupidity of the "partners" led to the real integration of the Union State, and not the declared

                How did this "integration" manifest itself?
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 15 November 2021 21: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  How did this "integration" manifest itself?

                  Old or new items? I can't say anything about the new ones
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 15 November 2021 21: 11
                    0
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Old or new items?

                    Let's get old ....
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 15 November 2021 21: 19
                      0
                      Quote: Lara Croft
                      Let's get old ....

                      About the old ones it is not interesting because they were transferred to Evrases.
                      1. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 15 November 2021 21: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Tusv
                        About the old ones it is not interesting because they were transferred to Evrases.

                        It is not interesting to communicate with you ....
                      2. Tusv
                        Tusv 15 November 2021 21: 22
                        0
                        Still, I'm not interested in discussing the day before yesterday's news
        2. Yaro Polk
          Yaro Polk 14 November 2021 11: 47
          -4
          What money, in connection with the current Russophobic situation in the World, Russia should have supplied all these weapons free of charge to the west of the Republic of Belarus FIVE YEARS BACK, I am surprised that this has not yet been done.
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 November 2021 11: 57
            +8
            Quote: Yaro Polk
            What money

            Real, REAL
            Quote: Yaro Polk
            Russia, in connection with the current Russophobic situation in the World, was supposed to supply all these weapons to the west of the Republic of Belarus for free FIVE YEARS BACK

            Are you serious? And over these FIVE YEARS, has Pan Lukashenko not been marked by some anti-Russian actions? Have you forgotten everything? Your memory is like that of a young girl with a long braid ...
            Quote: Yaro Polk
            I'm surprised it hasn't been done yet.

            But I do not ... and then it must be done VERY carefully
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 03
              0
              Quote: svp67
              Your memory is like that of a young girl with a long braid ...

              Not every girl with a long braid has such a memory as he does ...
          2. yelo
            yelo 14 November 2021 11: 59
            +5
            so Lukash did not allow it to be done and fraternized with Poroshenko in every possible way.
            and the authorities did not put pressure on him very much.
            1. Yuriy71
              Yuriy71 14 November 2021 16: 38
              +3
              I want to remind you that your "mnogohodovochnik" Himself recognized the Poroshenko regime and even shook his hand when the Donbas was bombed and the SS men in wide trousers were furious !!!
              1. yelo
                yelo 15 November 2021 01: 33
                -2
                First of all, Pituna, I do not support his criminal inaction in Ukraine (or even help), and secondly, he did not embrace gunpowder and did not introduce articles against the militias, unlike Lukashenka.
          3. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 15 November 2021 21: 15
            0
            Quote: Yaro Polk
            Russia, in connection with the current Russophobic situation in the World, should

            Again, it should, probably there is no country that owed so much to it. And who should the RF? How many I have not seen such, although entire peoples live thanks to the Russian Federation .... at the same time, they are sure that they exist not thanks to the Russian Federation, but thanks to the fact that the Russian Federation "owes" them ...
        3. alystan
          alystan 14 November 2021 13: 32
          -3
          You might think you gave out a loan to Old Man from your own pocket?
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 10
            -1
            Quote: alystan
            You might think you gave out a loan to Old Man from your own pocket?

            Why not think so? It is from my incl.
      2. alystan
        alystan 14 November 2021 13: 34
        -3
        Will you never please?
  2. YOUR
    YOUR 14 November 2021 07: 31
    +11
    Why place on the border? With its range
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 14 November 2021 07: 36
      +15
      The old man does not exchange, he plans to go straight to the decision-making centers. laughing
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 08: 12
        +16
        Not to give to Old Man Sarmat, even if he will ask for it.
      2. svp67
        svp67 14 November 2021 08: 19
        +6
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        The old man does not exchange, he plans to go straight to the decision-making centers

        And what prevents him from using his "Polonaises" for this?
        1. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 14 November 2021 09: 41
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: Andrey Moskvin
          The old man does not exchange, he plans to go straight to the decision-making centers

          And what prevents him from using his "Polonaises" for this?

          And then, if something goes wrong, you can't blame Russia, and you can't say that it has nothing to do with it, it's their fault.
        2. Torins
          Torins 14 November 2021 10: 05
          +1
          So the article says.
        3. www3
          www3 15 November 2021 16: 55
          -1
          so they are already Chinese, but the Iskander can be sold on the sly, as he once sold the s-300 to the Americans))
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 14 November 2021 10: 02
        -3
        The center of decision making on all these fanington tobaccos.
    2. KCA
      KCA 14 November 2021 07: 40
      +4
      Which in current realities may not be at all 500 km for both "M" and "K"
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 14 November 2021 07: 52
        +3
        Those. much further. Then all the more why near the border, substituting for artillery strikes
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 14 November 2021 08: 22
          +10
          Quote: YOUR
          Then all the more why near the border, substituting for artillery strikes

          I think the boundary is mentioned to indicate the direction of the projection of force.

          And they will put it right.
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 November 2021 08: 44
            +4
            Quote: Olgovich
            And they will put it right.

            So let them first put their "Polonaises"
    3. svp67
      svp67 14 November 2021 08: 20
      +3
      Quote: YOUR
      Why place on the border? With its range

      Because it can only be supplied with Iskander-E with a range of up to 300 km.
      1. KCA
        KCA 14 November 2021 08: 32
        +7
        And what, in world practice, is there a precedent for a union state like Russia-Belarus, where the status of limiting the interaction of troops and the supply of weapons is clearly defined? And who is stopping the creation of a training center for tactical missile weapons, in which Russia will train Belarusian servicemen at OWN PGRK?
        1. svp67
          svp67 14 November 2021 08: 42
          +4
          Quote: KCA
          And what, in world practice, is there a precedent for a union state like Russia-Belarus, where the status of limiting the interaction of troops and the supply of weapons is clearly defined?

          The history of such examples is COMPLETE
          Quote: KCA
          And who is stopping the creation of a training center for tactical missile weapons, in which Russia will train Belarusian servicemen at OWN PGRK?

          All in all, there are INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS, in this case ON THE NON-PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
          1. KCA
            KCA 14 November 2021 08: 43
            +8
            US supplies UK with Trident strategic nuclear weapons
            1. svp67
              svp67 14 November 2021 08: 47
              +5
              Quote: KCA
              US supplies UK with Trident strategic nuclear weapons

              Yes, Great Britain, like the USA, Russia, China, France, are included in the circle of NUCLEAR POWERS.
              Did the USA supply them to Germany, Italy, Spain, Japan?
          2. figwam
            figwam 14 November 2021 09: 18
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            All in all, there are INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS, in this case ON THE NON-PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

            Europeans have long been training to use American nuclear bombs, although their countries do not possess such weapons. There is a violation, but for some reason they can.
            1. svp67
              svp67 14 November 2021 09: 20
              +2
              Quote: figvam
              Europeans have long been training to use American nuclear bombs, although their countries do not possess such weapons. There is a violation, but for some reason they can.

              This is no longer a question about my salary ... But as I understand it, we do not have clear evidence. If training is underway, and these polygons are known, then there must be facts ...
          3. Tusv
            Tusv 14 November 2021 10: 27
            -3
            Quote: svp67
            INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS, in this case ON THE NON-PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

            Adnaka there is a precedent. Rent of Trident-2 on English submarines, that is, on the territory of the United Kingdom. Placement of B-61 in European countries. Well, of course, this was not considered in the agreement, and there was no Union State either. We have every right, and then the exchange. We deduce, they deduce. The result is his majesty parity
            1. svp67
              svp67 14 November 2021 10: 57
              +4
              Quote: Tusv
              Rent of Trident-2 on English submarines, that is, on the territory of the United Kingdom

              Great Britain is a nuclear and missile country, this is not a precedent
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 14 November 2021 08: 39
        +7
        So far, not a single type of weapon supplied to the Republic of Belarus has the "E" prefix. Why should there be exceptions for Iskander?
        1. svp67
          svp67 14 November 2021 08: 43
          +2
          Quote: YOUR
          So far, not a single type of weapon supplied to the Republic of Belarus has the "E" prefix. Why should there be exceptions for Iskander?

          Because this is a weapon falling under the INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT, which we have now Pledged not to violate.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 14 November 2021 08: 45
            +4
            What are these agreements? It seems like our Trump has popped everything
            1. svp67
              svp67 14 November 2021 08: 51
              +4
              Quote: YOUR
              It seems like our Trump has popped everything

              Yes pochikalsya, but OUR President VVP, loudly announced that we will not violate them until, until the other side violates them. And you are now proposing to do this. Can you imagine how many times more the opposing side is capable of deploying such complexes? The score will not be in our favor ... strongly not in ours, especially since our largest industrial and political centers will be under attack
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 14 November 2021 08: 54
                -3
                Let me concretize the question well: What agreements limit the sale of Iskander-type missiles?
                1. svp67
                  svp67 14 November 2021 09: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: YOUR
                  Let me concretize the question well: What agreements limit the sale of Iskander-type missiles?

                  Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (IRNFT) is an agreement between the USSR and the United States, signed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan on December 8, 1987 during the Soviet-American summit level in Washington DC.
                  On March 4, 2018, Vladimir Putin signed a decree on Russia's suspension of the implementation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF Treaty), at the same time, in a commentary on this decree, Vladimir Putin noted that Russia does not plan to deploy missiles subject to the INF Treaty on border territories
                  1. YOUR
                    YOUR 14 November 2021 09: 06
                    +2
                    Iskander is not covered by this treaty.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 14 November 2021 09: 13
                      +4
                      But its exports are under control
                      Missile Technology Control Regime
                      The MTCR (created in 1987, currently - 35 countries) is an informal association of states for the purpose of missile non-proliferation. Within the framework of the Regime, guidelines are developed for export control over goods and technologies of the corresponding profile.
                      Russia has been a member of the MTCR since 1995.
                      Main documents:
                      Guidelines for missile transfers and missile technology.
                      Aide Memoire (Procedural Matters).
                      Technical appendix - list of controlled items. Subdivided into two categories.
                      Category I: missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) with a flight range of 300 km or more and a payload of 500 kg, as well as their subsystems. There is a presumption of “failure as a rule” and the transfer of production facilities is prohibited.
                      Category II: missiles and UAVs not falling under Category I with a flight range of 300 km or more, as well as dual-use goods and technologies related to missile technology.
                      1. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 09: 23
                        -6
                        Why are you so worried, you live within the radius of Iskander's defeat?
                      2. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 09: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Why are you so worried, you live within the radius of Iskander's defeat?

                        In this case, I live under their protection, moreover, under the protection of the most advanced Iskander modifications that are in service, this Iskander-M,

                        located in the village of Elansky, Kamyshlovsky district, Sverdlovsk region.
                        This is about them
                      3. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 09: 35
                        -4
                        Not only Europeans and Americans can violate the treaty! I proceed from this.
                      4. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 09: 37
                        +3
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Not only Europeans and Americans can violate the treaty! I proceed from this.

                        And what does this have to do with this case now? The United States, that they have supplied their missile systems with a range of up to 500 km to someone near our borders?
                      5. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 09: 39
                        +1
                        Do you still think that there are missile defense missiles in Romania?
                      6. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 09: 43
                        +3
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Do you still think that there are missile defense missiles in Romania?

                        Are they Romanian? You don't understand the basics ...
                        Are you a supporter of unleashing a new "missile arms race" near our borders? We have very little chance of winning it now, which means we will have to answer asymmetrically, and this is a new round of other types of weapons, and so on. etc.
                      7. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 14 November 2021 09: 45
                        -5
                        We did not unleash the race, we answered.
                      8. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 09: 46
                        +5
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        We did not unleash the race, we answered.

                        But if we now deliver the Iskanders not in the export version, then we will be the FIRST to take a step ... but how much do we need it now?
                      9. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 11: 11
                        0
                        OTRK Elbrus does not count. It has long been. Or China to Pakistan its DF-11 is slowly spreading.
                        Moreover, Belarus has its own missiles comparable to the OTRK, you yourself wrote about them Polonaise. Which is created with the help of China.
                      10. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 11: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Moreover, Belarus has its own missiles comparable to the OTRK, you yourself wrote about them Polonaise. Which is created with the help of China.

                        Up to 300 km, it is not prohibited
                      11. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 11: 55
                        -1
                        Placed with Russian calculations, as the Americans do. Business then
                      12. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 11: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Placed with Russian calculations, as the Americans do. The thing is

                        So far, Lukashenka has not agreed to this ... in any way ...
                      13. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 12: 01
                        -1
                        Himself suggested. And in the light of past and ongoing teachings somehow his disagreement looks flimsy.
                      14. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 12: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Himself suggested.

                        Words, these are not specific contracts ... But words, he said a lot lately
                      15. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 12: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: svp67
                        And the words, he said a lot lately

                        After recent events, he backed down great. I don’t remember such large-scale exercises that took place in September. The divisions were redeployed from Russia to the Republic of Belarus.
                      16. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 12: 12
                        +2
                        Quote: YOUR
                        After recent events, he backed down great.

                        Yes, he, like in that song, often "one step forward and two back" ... He is not very reliable. And he WILL BEND as soon as it is beneficial to him, and perhaps, alas, but I do not even doubt it.
                      17. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 12: 14
                        +1
                        I doubt it and how. He does everything for his state. And he does not want to completely lie under anyone.
                      18. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 12: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: YOUR
                        He does everything for his state.

                        Oh?
                      19. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 12: 27
                        -1
                        Go to Belarus to see, talk to people. Look what kind of medicine, education, roads they have, in what order cities and villages. There are legal acts, where a lot is painted, up to how many lighting poles should be in the village and in front of it on the highway. And there is nothing to save the head of administration if he does not fulfill the prescribed.
                      20. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 12: 32
                        +1
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Go to RB take a look, talk to people

                        Thanks for the invitation. Thank God, relatives there are not deprived ... so that what and how they have their sources of information there.
                        Quote: YOUR
                        See what kind of medicine, education, roads they have, in what order cities and villages

                        And in the days of the USSR, they had something differently?
                        Quote: YOUR
                        There are legal acts, where a lot is painted, up to how many lighting poles should be in the village and in front of it on the highway. And there is nothing to save the head of administration if he does not fulfill the prescribed.

                        And you think that's all, life is getting better? I remember in the history of Russia there was a similar Emperor, Nicholas I, he loved to regulate the same all his life, but ended his reign badly, it did not help him win one, not very big war ...
                      21. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 12: 38
                        -2
                        Most people like it and this is the main thing.
                        Currently, due to the pandemic, there are enough hospitals, there is enough equipment, they did not do anything in an emergency. There are, of course, those who are dissatisfied, but the main dissatisfaction is - why is he ruling for so long, and why is he carrying Kolya's son with him. There is nothing more to be indignant with.
                      22. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 12: 45
                        -1
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Most people like it and this is the main thing.

                        I will not argue ... but I think that most are just afraid, no matter how worse
                        Quote: YOUR
                        There is nothing more to be indignant with.

                        Are you sure? No, there are still a bunch of complaints, otherwise the workers would not have worried and protested. It's hard for working people there too
                      23. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 27
                        -2
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Go to Belarus to see, talk to people. Look what kind of medicine, education, roads they have, in what order cities and villages.

                        RB is the BSSR, which continues to feed from the budget of the former RSFSR in the absence of the need to deduct profits to the Union budget and the absence of other parasites in the form of the Union republics ...
                        "Success" RB is access to the sales market in the Russian Federation and irrevocable, interest-free and gratuitous loans from the Russian Federation ... if you remove all this, you get Ukraine-2 in miniature ...
                      24. YOUR
                        YOUR 16 November 2021 03: 32
                        +1
                        In 2016, Romania placed on its territory a stationary missile defense system Aegis Ashore with American missile interceptors of the RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 (SM-3) type. In total, since 2015, 3 batteries of 8 SM-3 Block IB missiles have been deployed at the Deveselu military base.

                        These complexes are designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles and warheads at transatmospheric altitudes and at long range. The exact characteristics of the complexes are classified. But judging by what is in open sources, then, for example, Block IIA modifications have a maximum range of 2500 km, and an altitude of up to 1500 km. Rocket speed up to 5 km / sec. In theory, this makes it possible to hit ICBMs on a collision course, which is what these missiles are intended for. It is also stated that the missiles located in Romania can also hit maneuvering targets. Tests have confirmed this, although there have been mistakes. But catching up will not work.

                        Last year, the complex underwent technical work and modernization. Obviously, in order to increase the combat effectiveness of missiles in terms of range, the likelihood of intercepting ICBMs, and determining false targets. ..... it can be assumed that there are new SM-3 Block IIB missiles with improved characteristics. For the period of work, THAAD missile defense systems were transferred to Romania. ........ their placement is a temporary measure. But the rapid transfer from the US territory and the deployment of this complex showed that, if necessary, the missile defense system in the European theater of operations can be very quickly strengthened.

                        And that's not all.
                        Poland is working on the preparation of infrastructure for the deployment of elements of the American theater missile defense, similar to those deployed in Romania.
                      25. YOUR
                        YOUR 14 November 2021 10: 02
                        +2
                        In this particular case, we are not talking about the transfer of technology, but the transfer of finished products.
                      26. svp67
                        svp67 14 November 2021 11: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: YOUR
                        In this particular case, we are not talking about the transfer of technology, but the transfer of finished products.

                        Once again, for you personally
                        Missile transfer guidelines and rocket technology.
                        Category I: missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) with a flight range of 300 km and more and a payload of 500 kg, as well as their subsystems. There is a presumption of “failure as a rule” and the transfer of production facilities is prohibited.
                        Category II: missiles not falling under Category I and UAVs with a flight range of 300 km or more, as well as dual-use goods and technologies related to rocketry.
                    2. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 22
                      -1
                      Quote: YOUR
                      Iskander is not covered by this treaty.

                      Before you troll with your pack of jackals, read about the Wassenaar Accords ... fool
          2. Crash
            Crash 14 November 2021 09: 47
            -1
            Nuclear boats for Australia come under the arrangement?
            1. svp67
              svp67 14 November 2021 11: 04
              0
              Quote: Crasher
              Nuclear boats for Australia come under the arrangement?

              Exactly to the same extent as our transfer of nuclear submarines to India
              1. Crash
                Crash 14 November 2021 17: 32
                0
                India in the nuclear club. Australia - no
    4. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 14 November 2021 08: 52
      +3
      Quote: YOUR
      Why place on the border? With its range

      On the border - does not mean on the PCB. hi
    5. Hyperion
      Hyperion 14 November 2021 11: 24
      0
      So that the artillery can cover.
  3. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 November 2021 07: 37
    -4
    Only one request from Lukashenka AG for the supply of Iskanders will stall (a nautical non-printed saying) Poles and Tribals and not only them. Just think, one or more of the 14 Iskander missile brigades will go to the borders of Belarus.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 14 November 2021 09: 50
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Only one request from Lukashenka AG for the supply of Iskanders will stall (a nautical non-printed proverb) Poles and Tribals and not only them. Just think, one or more of the 14 Iskander missile brigades will go to the borders of Belarus

      They will not supply him with these missiles. The base will be installed. And missiles where necessary, and weapons under control.
      And the "Suwalki" corridor will be within walking distance.
  4. svp67
    svp67 14 November 2021 07: 41
    +4
    For some reason, Batko went into gear ... And why "Iskander", and not immediately "Topol-M"?
    He knows that we can only supply him with Iskander-E, with a range of up to 300 km, and they have their own Polonaise with such a range. So the question is, why?
    Apparently he expects to receive not Iskander-E, but immediately Iskander-K or Iskander-M, since we are almost a union state, and special warheads for them ...
    All this "smells bad". How much it corresponds to OUR interests. Now, now to receive several divisions of missile systems from the other side in response, with the ability to cover not only Belarus, but our entire Kaliningrad region
    If where our "Iskander" should "materialize" now, it is at our bases in Cuba ...
    1. Fanur Galiev
      Fanur Galiev 14 November 2021 09: 26
      +2
      And the Cubans, as I understand it, are just waiting for Russian missiles to come to them .... As for Iskander's deployment in Belarus: why not actually? You do not think that Russia is acting contrary to its interests, but out of the kindness of its soul. Any action of our country, anywhere, always pursues one or another benefit.
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 November 2021 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: Fanur Galiev
        And the Cubans, as I understand it, are just waiting for Russian missiles to come to them ...

        After we betrayed them TWICE, no longer. Here they are glad to the Chinese. To get bases on the territory of Cuba again, our politicians should try ... But this is really necessary now, following the model of Syria, we need a naval and air base there
        Quote: Fanur Galiev
        As for Iskander's deployment in Belarus: why not actually?

        If they are RUSSIAN, belonging to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then it is possible, but Batko does not agree to this ... He does not need our bases on his territory, but why do we now violate international agreements? No, we definitely don't need this now
        1. Fanur Galiev
          Fanur Galiev 14 November 2021 11: 17
          0
          There is one key question regarding Cuba: why? Don't think anything like that, but I just don't understand why we need bases there. For what purpose and what can it give us again. With regard to the Iskander: if they begin to place them, they will not do it only because the Old Man wanted to do so.
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 November 2021 11: 23
            +1
            Quote: Fanur Galiev
            With Cuba, there is one key question: why? Don't think anything like that, but I just don't understand why we need bases there.

            Now it is urgently needed to calm down our "partners" ...
            Quote: Fanur Galiev
            For what purpose and what can it give us again.

            Sharply limit the interest of "partners" in the Black Sea and Ukraine
            Quote: Fanur Galiev
            With regard to the Iskander: if they begin to place them, they will not do it only because the Old Man wanted to do so.

            Don't go to the fortuneteller here
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: Fanur Galiev
        And the Cubans, as I understand it, are just waiting for Russian missiles to come to them ...

        Why the hell are the Cubans with our missiles? The Russian Federation has already forgiven the debt, and so, other senior comrades are already in power in Cuba, life is getting better ... well, at least with the PRC and the United States, why the hell did we rest against them, that we can offer what the PRC and the United States will not put?
    2. www3
      www3 15 November 2021 17: 05
      -1
      all these requests are designed exclusively for Russian TV viewers, in order to once again emphasize that he has Russia behind him))
      it was not in vain that he said on TV - for all that is done, we will answer together))
  5. mvg
    mvg 14 November 2021 07: 45
    0
    But dad won't set us up? In attempts to sit on a stool, fire, "accidentally" on the belts and / or crests and that's it. ODBC in action
    1. KCA
      KCA 14 November 2021 07: 48
      +5
      He’s not a Pole, he doesn’t want to be trampled through his country from west to east, and then run from east to west.
      1. mvg
        mvg 14 November 2021 07: 54
        +1
        he does not at all want to be trampled through his country first

        Here, I'm afraid, is a one-way road. If, against the backdrop of hysterics about the pandemic, we will still witness the concentration of the NATO Armed Forces in Poland .. I'm afraid that the already unhealthy economy, a handsome scribe will come. Again a small border skirmish and a new round of the arms race. In this case, there will be potatoes in chocolate.
      2. svp67
        svp67 14 November 2021 08: 14
        +2
        Quote: KCA
        He’s not a Pole, he doesn’t want to be trampled through his country from west to east, and then run from east to west.

        If he did not want this, then all these "excursionists", with the help of his KGB, he would "wrap up" immediately, as soon as they, upon arrival, refused to book hotels and excursions ... You did not ask yourself why this whole conflict passes on a very narrow section of borders, near one of the smallest checkpoints on it, and near others, everything is quiet and grace, and through them the flow of transport and people moves back and forth without delay. And you ask. And it will become clear that this is not possible without outside regulation.
        1. KCA
          KCA 14 November 2021 08: 37
          -4
          If he wanted to, then in response to the shooting by the Polish border guards with live ammunition towards Belarus, he could with full right to cover these border guards with "Grad", shooting across the border on the adjacent side is a gross violation of all border norms
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 November 2021 08: 45
            -1
            Quote: KCA
            If he wanted to, then in response to the shooting by the Polish border guards with live ammunition towards Belarus, he could with full right to cover these border guards with "Grad", shooting across the border on the adjacent side is a gross violation of all border norms

            The fact of shooting STILL need to be proved,
          2. www3
            www3 15 November 2021 17: 13
            -1
            and there are facts about shooting on the Belarusian territory ?????
            you have some sort of selective approach, that is, when the Poles say that migrants with the help of Belarusian border guards are knocking down barriers, then everyone immediately squeals that this is not true and where are the photos and videos!
            and as soon as it is not clear who claims that the Poles are shooting towards Belarus, this is not even questioned))
            1. KCA
              KCA 15 November 2021 17: 16
              -1
              Hardly anyone was looking for bullets, there is a video of Poles shooting from machine guns over the heads of migrants towards the border, and this is not secret KGB footage, they show on TV news
              1. www3
                www3 15 November 2021 17: 59
                -1
                give a link to the video))
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 37
                  -1
                  Quote: www3
                  give a link to the video))

                  He's here on a "procedural" issue ...
                2. KCA
                  KCA 15 November 2021 23: 09
                  0
                  And you are funny, I can say that my surname is not Yandex or Gugol, you ask them, they know, but for some reason they didn’t show me the link on TV, it’s not very SMART
        2. www3
          www3 15 November 2021 17: 09
          -2
          By the way, "tourist visa-free" in Belarus is issued for a period of 1 month, something is not heard about the deportation of those whose term has expired.
    2. Alexander Vanichev
      Alexander Vanichev 14 November 2021 08: 47
      +4
      I agree with you. Dad goes overboard in search of an external enemy to strengthen his power and distract from internal problems.
    3. Crash
      Crash 14 November 2021 09: 49
      +1
      The CSTO enters into force IN AN ATTACK on one of the CSTO countries
  6. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 14 November 2021 07: 46
    -5
    Pissed off But father. Poland was rocked. Emigrants are the best weapon. Sooner or later, the Poles will have to open their borders. In extreme cases, they will float this crowd to Ukraine. Chubaty have nothing to lose. And they love to bend.
    1. Sergey Nikiforov
      Sergey Nikiforov 14 November 2021 08: 00
      0
      The Poles will not open the border, it's a matter of principle Despite the fact that Germany supports them in this there is no longer Merkel, there are already other people, one statement by their Minister of Defense is worth something And the dad went into a rag, it will all end badly for him
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 15 November 2021 20: 43
        0
        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
        one statement from their minister of defense is worth something

        And what is it worth?
        And the daddy went into raptures, it will all end badly for him

        Well, since 94, everything ends badly for him, how many senior comrades in the neighboring states of Belarus have changed, and he still "ends badly" .... he will catch a cold at your funeral ...
  7. Asad
    Asad 14 November 2021 07: 48
    0
    ,, Buy ,, for one billion dollars !? Where does the money come from? Would write, ask on a non-refundable basis. Plus to the rest of the debts. What debt I could not find out, some write 10 billion, others 100.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 November 2021 08: 01
      +1
      Quote: ASAD
      What debt I could not find out, some write 10 billion, others 100.

      They also write a lot on the fence.
      Minsk opened the country's airspace to Russian long-range bombers and strategic missile carriers. Now Russian planes will patrol over Belarus on a permanent basis.

      But this is very good! fly, fly, within Belarus. And you, who are standing on the border, look and oh-oh-think very well! Maybe it's time to open a corridor for refugees?
      1. sidoroff
        sidoroff 14 November 2021 09: 02
        -4
        do not forget to open the corridor for refugees later - from the Republic of Belarus to the Russian Federation. Or do you think that the Belarusians will be sweet from the NATO response?
        it is not Luke who is kulametam attacking peaceful demonstrators. the IT specialist had a ruzho, and the Poles all the more in the assortment.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 14 November 2021 09: 26
          -3
          RB - RF - Norway, all metal from the Murmansk region will be exported. lol
          1. Asad
            Asad 14 November 2021 10: 51
            0
            Where is the warmest place in Russia? In Sochi! Here are the dear tralflot refugees and will come.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 14 November 2021 11: 01
              0
              We have enough of our own. lol
              1. Asad
                Asad 14 November 2021 11: 03
                0
                Well, they do not stomp to our Siberia!
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 14 November 2021 11: 12
                  0
                  My corridor, which is higher, let the people of Murmansk sell their bicycles and four-wheeled metal, as they did last time. But I suspect it's too late, though.
      2. JD1979
        JD1979 14 November 2021 10: 42
        -3
        Quote: Egoza
        But this is very good! fly, fly, within Belarus. And you, who are standing on the border, look and oh-oh-think very well! Maybe it's time to open a corridor for refugees?

        Airborne soldier ... In the morning he didn’t cry out - it’s a day. Take refugees yourself, if you feel sorry for them, feed them, give them water, dress them well and provide other services) don't you want? And what do you demand from others?
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 November 2021 08: 26
      0
      Quote: ASAD
      Plus to the rest of the debts. What debt I could not find out, some write 10 billion, others 100.

      And you are not interested, to whom did Belarus owe this? You personally or in those banking structures that are called Russian, but in fact - a private money-box of some Russian nouveau riche, which put their citizens on 20 billion rubles of credit debts.
      Was the mind obscured in such a short time? Yes, having the opportunity, Russia is simply OBLIGED to maintain statehood in Belarus and maintain its defense capability at the proper height.
      Some are sitting here and wondering: "Where the father can shoot and will not have to answer for it?" There they did not argue whether the Molotov-Ribentrop pact was signed correctly or not ... They simply stood up as a wall and beat the fascists. And today there are theorists who argue about the rightness and authority ...
      1. JD1979
        JD1979 14 November 2021 10: 49
        +3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Yes, having the opportunity, Russia is simply OBLIGED to maintain statehood in Belarus and maintain its defense capability at the proper height.

        Who should? Where is it obligated?
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Some are sitting here and wondering: "Where the father can shoot and will not have to answer for it?"

        Have you ever been in a situation where you were responsible for the actions of others? Do not try, immediately the brains will be adjusted in relation to responsibility.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        To you personally or to those banking structures that are called Russian, but in fact - a private money box of some Russian nouveau riche, which put their citizens on 20 billion rubles of credit debts.

        Airborne forces are such airborne forces ...
        At least google what structures work with interstate loans ... Although who am I talking about ...
  8. sidoroff
    sidoroff 14 November 2021 07: 55
    0
    to a butting cow ..
  9. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 14 November 2021 08: 02
    +6
    Attempt # XXUMX.
    According to the president, Belarus offered Russia “to supply Iskander complexes to the republic in connection with the activation of some forces,” but this proposal did not receive support. In this regard, Belarus “was forced to organize the production of the Polonez rocket launcher system”.
    Note on 08.10.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX
  10. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 14 November 2021 08: 05
    +1
    At present, Belarus has a "Polonez" MLRS with a firing range of 300 km, but this is not enough.

    ***
    Distance Brest - Warsaw: in a straight line 183 km ...
    ***
  11. Sergey3
    Sergey3 14 November 2021 08: 14
    +1
    And that, a very good desire, you need to help him realize it. Kaliningrad alone is not enough, the Poles should know that, if something happens, they will fly from both sides at once.
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 14 November 2021 08: 21
    0
    Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
    The Poles will not open the border, it's a matter of principle Despite the fact that Germany supports them in this there is no longer Merkel, there are already other people, one statement by their Minister of Defense is worth something And the dad went into a rag, it will all end badly for him

    Germany does not support them, but took them by the gills, tk. Poles in certain circles had some fat on the transit of emigrants, which was not entirely legal in terms of organizing this venture, if not criminal.
  13. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 14 November 2021 08: 22
    -2
    Quote: Chekmarev
    From this news, Ukrainians and Lithuanians will start hysterical :)))). Well done Father!
    Will answer

    From this news, hysteria may begin at the GDP with Shoigu. Who knows what m̶o̶ch̶ thought will hit my butt's head. And Russia will have to take the rap.
    1. Tzar
      Tzar 14 November 2021 09: 14
      -4
      Quote: Nafanya from the couch
      Who knows what m̶o̶ch̶ thought will hit my butt's head. And Russia will have to take the rap.

      And what has Russia to do with it? Erdogan sold the bayraktars to the Ukrainians and asked them not to call them Turkish anymore, took off all responsibility from himself and Europe supported him in this. So the Iskanders will follow the same scheme, and if anything - all the claims to the Old Man.
      1. Andrey Moskvin
        Andrey Moskvin 14 November 2021 10: 19
        -2
        Erdogan and Zelensky are not members of the Ukroturk CSTO. Just business.
  14. Bez 310
    Bez 310 14 November 2021 08: 23
    +3
    Forgot to take your pills again?
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 14 November 2021 10: 28
      +1
      laughing Judging by your avatar, you said it to his eyes. hi Joke.
  15. Waterways 672
    Waterways 672 14 November 2021 08: 34
    +5
    The Belarusian president would like to place "several divisions" in the western and southern directions in the border area, as they say, "just in case."
    - Give one combat!
    - What for?
    - For every fireman.
    - Do not!
  16. askort154
    askort154 14 November 2021 08: 49
    +1
    Nafanya from the sofa ...From this news, hysteria may begin at the GDP with Shoigu. Who knows what m̶o̶ch̶ thought will hit my butt's head. And Russia will have to take the rap.

    That's for sure. He said at the time of signing - "Vladimir Vladimirovich, I see your signature, I will also sign, well, we will all answer, not only me."
    So it started. Because he is not a recognized president by the West, then no one wants to communicate with him, then he began to behave like an elephant in a china shop, and all the plates are flying to Putin. The United States is strenuously imposing on the whole world that Russia is the aggressor, Putin is trying to prove at all forums that this is not so, and here the newly-made ally began to wave a "sword", posing as "Chapay of the 21st century." hi
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 November 2021 09: 22
    +1
    I wonder how, with our money, to buy our own weapons. Well done Luca. Here is just a problem with the union.
  18. cniza
    cniza 14 November 2021 09: 37
    -2
    Now Russian planes will patrol over Belarus on a permanent basis.


    But this will really cool the ardor of many in the West ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 November 2021 09: 53
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      But this will really cool the ardor of many in the West ...

      So far, that it "adds gasoline"
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 14 November 2021 10: 26
        +3
        So far, that she "adds gasoline"


        The collective farmer's main problem is not to ruin his kingdom and pass it on to his son. Everything else is secondary. If necessary, it will come to the state of North Korea, but only Kolke is in power. Read about the feudal fragmentation of the 14th century and everything falls into place .... Barcelona, ​​Belarus, Ukraine and further down the list.
  19. K-50
    K-50 14 November 2021 09: 51
    -1
    Lukashenko wanted to place "several divisions" of Iskander-M OTRK on the border with the European Union

    Not a very good solution.
    In 1941, we experienced what happens to a person stationed at the border in the event of a surprise attack.
    Now, if a throw from is taken there for a retaliatory oncoming strike, then yes.
    In any case, for this they must be in stock, just.
    1. Harry.km
      Harry.km 14 November 2021 10: 21
      +2
      Quote: K-50
      What happens to a person stationed at the border in the event of a surprise attack,

      And we also remember what happens (sometimes) with the secret technologies placed in the Republic of Belarus ... 1995 The only S-300 in the Republic of Belarus was loaded into a US Air Force plane and flew safely overseas. All Russian protests were ignored. Old Man is an overly cunning comrade. Therefore, it was not in vain that he was initially denied the supply of Iskander. Already wrote on the next branch, the dad wants to distinguish himself, let him recognize the Crimea! And only then ... a real ally, you can organize the supply of serious weapons. It was then, and not before!
  20. Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 November 2021 10: 26
    -2
    winked Old Man seriously decided to troll Europe. If it will make a squeal and a stench will be immeasurable. But most likely it will bargain for some preferences and plans will remain so.
  21. shubin
    shubin 14 November 2021 10: 39
    0
    Wishlist grow by leaps and bounds, but is it worth giving the monkey a grenade?
  22. Teador
    Teador 14 November 2021 10: 53
    0
    Duc put layouts on the borders A LUPI ON DSP WHERE YOU WANT
  23. megadeth
    megadeth 14 November 2021 11: 04
    -3
    I thought there had already been at least a regiment deployed, but it’s high time, but our liberal-minded VGK is unlikely to agree, even taking into account the withdrawal of the FSA from the INF Treaty.
  24. yelo
    yelo 14 November 2021 11: 58
    -2
    Iskander without yao is money down the drain, so only 500 kg of explosives + there are not enough of them, + in Poland there is an American pro, and there is its own air defense.
    Sioux 30SM

    better than 35 drying.
  25. Alexfly
    Alexfly 14 November 2021 12: 14
    0
    Dear Belarusians, better buy a Kovrov automatic rifle, stop buying a low-quality, knee-high alteration of the AK-12 ...
  26. KADINIK
    KADINIK 14 November 2021 13: 08
    +2
    All the weapons that Belarus wants to buy pulls for a dozen yards, well, not just one. What is this discount?
    We already have the experience of brotherly Ukraine, especially the resale of our weapons and military technologies. And secondly, we quickly forgot about the desire of the daddy to hand over our citizens to the Bandera people for trial.
  27. populist
    populist 14 November 2021 13: 21
    0
    "I began to give advice, Shouted to the host And almost already decided to fight."
    V. Vysotsky.
  28. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 November 2021 14: 12
    0
    The flip side of the "fears of Russian aggression" from the Tribals and Poland….
  29. Adimius38
    Adimius38 14 November 2021 14: 48
    0
    Of course, you can place it, you even need it, but the question is who else will sell them to him laughing
  30. AC130 Gunship
    AC130 Gunship 14 November 2021 16: 40
    +3
    I wonder what costume will Lukashenka wear to receive the parade in May 2022? As a reserve lieutenant colonel according to documents, he recently flashed in the marshal's jacket ...
  31. Skipper
    Skipper 14 November 2021 19: 33
    +3
    As the dad's ass was pinched so immediately he became docile ... and before what a wild he was ... he slandered Russia ...
  32. Mwg
    Mwg 14 November 2021 19: 49
    -3
    Lukashenka is handsome !!!
  33. gregor6549
    gregor6549 15 November 2021 06: 43
    +1
    Our former collective farmer and now the President of Belarus has completely lost his mind. I live in Minsk and do not want me, my children and grandchildren to become a target. It really is not enough that the inhabitants of Belarus experienced in June 41. But before the war, a lot of troops of the Red Army were stationed both on the very border with former Poland and not far from it. And how did this help to avoid the occupation of Belarus, and then a huge part of the Russian Federation by the Wehrmacht? Are those bitter lessons really not enough for such Presidents as Lukashenka. After all, out of fear for his own skin, he has already made a lot of mistakes and continues to make others, even bigger ones. Who is going to attack him and why? He himself started an undeclared war against his neighbors (Poland, Lithuania, etc.) and is ready to fight them until the last refugee,
    He also accused Poland and Lithuania of having granted asylum to the former presidential candidate Svetlana Tikhanovskaya and some other oppositionists, apparently forgetting that he himself had made the decision to expel her and her associates from the country.
    And he did not confine himself to accusations, but announced a real hunt for the oppositionists who fled from Belarus. And the results of this hunt are already known. One allegedly hanged himself, the other shot himself with a control shot, etc. In general, the arbitrariness that was happening and is happening to Lukashenko and his guardsmen is not much different from the arbitrariness that the Nazis and their local accomplices did in occupied Belarus during the Second World War.
    I was a kid at the beginning of the war in Mozyr, Gomel region. where my father brought me from Leningrad for the summer, saw a lot of what was going on there then and hoped that this would never happen again on the land of Belarus. I was wrong. He lived, even if not yet to such, but very cruel arbitrariness in Belarus.
    And finally, I would like to note that the Belarusians, against whom Lukashenka used repressions, did not at all set the goal of joining Belarus to some foreign military bloc. It's just that Lukashenka with his tricks, rudeness and other tricks already got everyone and people wanted changes. And all they demanded was to review the election results. Lukashenko most likely would have won, but did not risk it and began to count the ribs of the protesters and simply those who fell under the hot hand of his guardsmen with rubber truncheons, rubber bullets, etc. ideological defender of the people of Belarus. Now games of Cossack-robbers seemed to him a little and he was fired up with the idea of ​​placing Iskanders near the border with Poland. And such "games", given the unpredictability of our President's behavior, may end badly for everyone, including Russia.
    For the disadvantages in advance "grateful", tk. I realize that "the big is seen from afar" and for many Russians the picture of what is happening in Belarus is seen in a slightly different light than for the citizens of this country. But I dare to assure you that this is an optical illusion, or maybe just a lie. And the essence of the deception is that one mafiosi has saved the other so far. So far it has worked out, but for how long?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 15 November 2021 06: 49
      -4
      Yeah, it’s immediately obvious ... don’t like Lukashenka.
      The Belarusians have chosen their own government and it is up to them to decide how to do business with their neighbors.
      And Tikhanovskaya and her accomplices are like we have Navalny with his foreign agents ... her place is in prison.
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 15 November 2021 06: 55
        +1
        Of course, Lech, from Android you know better. But believe me, quite a few years will pass and you will see that I was right. Yes, and Navalny in many ways too. And to glue the klikuha "foreign agent" to anyone who is not "FOR" special intelligence is not needed. So do not be surprised if at one fine moment it will be glued and you will be dragged under the white handles to confess all the sins of mortals. It has already happened more than once in the history of the Russian state
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 15 November 2021 07: 08
          -4
          Perhaps so ... but these will be their own and not American or NATO soldiers. smile
          For me, it’s better than putting up with the NATO pack on our land.
          Yes, Lukashenko is not an ideal ... but Tihanovskaya is it better?
          I would really not like this lady, on a command from Washington, to set the Belarusians against Russia ... as it was, for example, in South Ossetia, where the puppet Saakashvili set the Georgians against our peacekeepers.
          1. gregor6549
            gregor6549 15 November 2021 16: 14
            -1
            And where did you get the idea, Lech, that NATO soldiers are impatient to invade our and your lands?
            They seem to have enough space on their land, and their fathers and grandfathers learned the lessons of World War II well. Why should they change their quite comfortable life for hunger and wartime devastation, and rather decent housing for modest gravestones.
            I was in the West at one time on business, and somehow I did not notice there a special desire to fight with Russia, and indeed to fight in general.
            Now about S. Tikhanovskaya. Where did you get the information that it was commanded from Washington. From your media? So they just do not say and write.
            And what about the recent events in Belarus what happened in South Ossetia? Those events still await their impartial investigation. I will definitely not live to see him, but my descendants may learn the whole truth about the events in South Ossetia, and in Transnistria, and about the wars in Chechnya and the Donbass, and about the KGB provocations in the Baltic States, and in the same Belarus in late 80s early 90s.
            And the true history of the Second World War has yet to be written, because what has already been written is rather difficult to call history. But these are separate questions and there is neither strength nor remorse to delve into it. It's a pity that people like you from Android have hammered fakes sucked out of your finger into their heads and you repeat them at every corner.
            And the last thing. Many in Belarus also could not have imagined that their sons and grandchildren would be able to trample underfoot their fellow citizens, whom they should protect and who simply wanted changes for the better. Now these illusions have dissipated and everyone understands what bastard they are dealing with in the presidential chair. So far, I mean only Lukashenka.
            The people of Russia will also sort out their bastards with time, and then it will become clear that Navalny was also largely right in his investigations of corruption in Russia, and that a report prepared by a former member of the St. Petersburg Legislative Assembly, Maria Salye, on the crimes of the current leader of Russia when he was Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Economic Affairs of the S. Pereburgskaya Mayor's Office, contains enough facts that this leader and those who brought him to power spent the rest of their lives not on villas in the Canary Islands "acquired by overwork", but on state bunks and grubs somewhere in Lefortovo. But again, these are the problems of the citizens of Russia and they either solve them, or pretend that there are no problems and that if there is anything, then ... "otherwise, beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine."
  34. lot
    lot 15 November 2021 18: 46
    0
    to deliver smuggled cigarettes. no more.