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Russian general: Developed RPO-2 flamethrower can be installed on a drone

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On the eve of the Day of the RChBZ Troops, Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov, who is the chief of these troops, gave an interview to journalists.


This interview is published in a departmental publication "A red star".

During the interview, General Kirillov reported, among other things, about the development of a new flamethrower. This is the RPO-2 fire engagement complex. It is being developed for flamethrower units of radiation, chemical and biological defense troops.

According to the head of the RChBZ troops, such a flamethrower will have increased combat capabilities. They are associated with the possibility of using RPO-2 on drones. It is planned to place an aiming and shooting complexes on the UAV.

Judging by the nomenclature designation, RPO-2 can become the development of the RPO-A infantry rocket flamethrower (aka "Bumblebee"), the aiming range of which, depending on the modifications, is 600-800 m.

When using a flamethrower complex from a drone, the accuracy of its use can significantly increase. The combat task of increasing the "coverage" of the attacked territory can also be solved.

General Igor Kirillov does not give any specific details about RPO-2, nor does he report when it weapon can enter the RChBZ troops.

For reference: Day of the RChBZ troops in Russia is celebrated on November 13, based on the decree of the head of state dated May 31.05.2006, XNUMX.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 November 2021 06: 35
    +2
    Well, if such a drone is still spitting napalm from above, it will be difficult to hide from it.
    Shot with a Bumblebee and poured the terrorists' shelter with this liquid for loyalty ... what
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 12 November 2021 07: 24
      -7
      Turn the UAV into a target?
      1. alex neym_2
        alex neym_2 12 November 2021 07: 30
        +5
        Why target? A fire-breathing dragon to the envy of the Chinese (how could they not have thought of this with such traditions?).
      2. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 12 November 2021 10: 12
        +3
        you want to say that you do not know what RPO-A "Bumblebee" is?
        1. bayard
          bayard 12 November 2021 21: 11
          +1
          I just imagined how the UAV (from the picture) "Altius" drags up to two tons of "Bumblebees" and "burns with napalm" the underlying surface ... at a distance of 600 - 800 m. bully laughing good
          Either the day today is such a set - one piece of news is "more beautiful" than another, or "the robots have broken down" and are talking nonsense in a friendly chorus ...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 13 November 2021 17: 55
            +2
            I can't even imagine what the RPO-2's firing range should be for the idea to make any sense. hi
            1. bayard
              bayard 13 November 2021 19: 17
              0
              Well, perhaps a gliding bomb based on his warhead.
              Or are they going to cling to the "Bumblebee" and "burn with napalm" on a quadrocopter?
  2. Popandos
    Popandos 12 November 2021 06: 38
    -1
    the sighting range of which, depending on the modifications, is 600-800 m.

    Isn't it too close for a UAV to fly that far?
    Apparently, the UAV should be large enough to hang such weapons on it.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 12 November 2021 06: 42
      0
      Quote: Popandos
      Isn't it too close for a UAV to fly that far?

      these numbers are indicated for "Bumblebee"
      RPO-2 promise to make more long-range
      and if shooting from such a distance is safe for a person on the ground, then it is unlikely that it will become dangerous for a UAV in the air.
      1. Popandos
        Popandos 12 November 2021 07: 00
        +7
        if shooting from such a distance is safe for a person on the ground, then it is unlikely that it will become dangerous for a UAV

        The shooter on the ground can hide after the shot, but where will the UAV hide? Maybe a kamikaze drone with a warhead like a bumblebee is easier?
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 12 November 2021 07: 25
          +1
          Quote: Popandos
          The shooter on the ground can hide after the shot, but where will the UAV hide?

          to hide from the blast wave after the explosion of essentially a thermobaric grenade at a distance of more than 400 meters?
          I don't think there is a need for this
          correct if i'm wrong
          1. Popandos
            Popandos 12 November 2021 08: 58
            +3
            The essence of the whole idea is the reusable use of the UAV, on the ground the shooter can hide from return fire, with the UAV it is more difficult. The range of the shot is not great, the UAV enters the zone of destruction even of small arms, the chances of losing the UAV are growing.
            Isn't it easier to equip ready-made kamikaze drones with bumblebee warheads than to reinvent a new bicycle? Or is there some secret meaning to fence this garden?
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 12 November 2021 09: 07
              0
              Quote: Popandos
              The range of the shot is not great, the UAV enters the zone of destruction even of small arms, the chances of losing the UAV are growing.

              I agree here.
              but it depends on the task and the conditions for its implementation.
              in the face of active opposition, 800m is clearly not enough to ensure the safety of the vehicle.
              BUT
              at such a distance, individual small arms practically do not pose a danger
              the range of the RPO-2 was promised to be made higher
              shooting from a height of flight adds range
              all this is just an estimate
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 12 November 2021 07: 31
          +1
          Quote: Popandos
          The shooter on the ground can hide after the shot, but where will the UAV hide? Maybe a kamikaze drone with a warhead like a bumblebee is easier?

          from "Manual on shooting 93-mm rocket infantry flamethrower (RPO-A)"
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 12 November 2021 10: 22
            0
            What are you discussing at all? Will the UAV use RPO-2 lying down or from the knee? belay wassat
            The UAV flies, as it were, and will be used from a height. perhaps as a NURS, perhaps they will make it corrected, and then at least from 5000m it is possible.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 12 November 2021 11: 05
              0
              Quote: SanichSan
              What are you discussing at all? Will the UAV use RPO-2 lying down or from the knee?

              safe firing range
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 12 November 2021 11: 16
                +1
                Quote: Flood
                safe firing range

                Is 2 km safe? from the UAV at 2 Km, the RPO-A will calmly shoot. soldier
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 12 November 2021 11: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  from the UAV at 2 km RPO-A will calmly shoot

                  2 km horizontally?
                  depending on what height
                  and you don't need to convince me of this possibility
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 12 November 2021 12: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Flood
                    depending on what height
                    and you don't need to convince me of this possibility

                    Well, thank God! Glory be to Allah! glory to all the gods! laughing from here one comrade in the correspondence below convinces me that since RPO-A has an aiming range of 800m, then the grenade will not fly any further than 800m laughing
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 12 November 2021 13: 57
                      +1
                      in the horizontal plane
                      but with a climb, this range, accordingly, increases
                      only the aiming question remains open
                      1. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 12 November 2021 17: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: Flood
                        only the aiming question remains open

                        yes, but an attack UAV is not a quadcopter with aliexpress. he has the means of observation and guidance. taking into account the experience with Hephaestus, the Russian Federation is now the leader in the field of unguided weapons guidance.
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding 12 November 2021 17: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        it has the means of observation and guidance

                        new weapons require updating the guidance system
                        I'm talking about it
                      3. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 12 November 2021 17: 09
                        +2
                        Quote: Flood
                        new weapons require updating the guidance system

                        definitely. soldier
                      4. Alex777
                        Alex777 13 November 2021 18: 03
                        0
                        You famously wrapped up the plot ... yes
                        Even if you add grenade guidance to RPO-2 ... wink
                      5. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 15 November 2021 14: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: Alex777
                        Even if you add grenade guidance to RPO-2 ...

                        judging by my friends from the military-industrial complex, smart people work there yes may add. what will prevent you from designing a removable seeker with gas rudders?
                      6. Alex777
                        Alex777 15 November 2021 14: 50
                        +1
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        judging by my friends from the military-industrial complex, smart people work there

                        That's right.

                        what will prevent you from designing a removable seeker with gas rudders?

                        They ate only the price.
  3. NDR-791
    NDR-791 12 November 2021 06: 42
    +6
    Does anyone see the point in placing an unguided missile with a range of up to 1000m on a drone? Maybe it's easier to vacuum bombs of the same power, there is no need to alter the sight. Why am I asking this? Because RPO is a Hand Infantry Flamethrower. And it is intended primarily for handheld shooting. And no matter how much you screw it up, it should be lifting. And if for drones something is longer-range or much more powerful, then this is no longer RPO
  4. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 November 2021 06: 43
    +3
    Deja vu! That's where the fire-breathing dragons from fairy tales came from! And Serpent Gorynych ... it's a drone with 3 flamethrowers! The priests are holy!
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 12 November 2021 06: 48
      +2
      ,, We were born to make a fairy tale come true .. ,, (c) laughing
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 November 2021 06: 56
    +1
    In general ... you will understand these defenders! Then they promise to make a "universal flame-thrower-grenade launcher complex" for everyone and for all occasions of life ... war!

    MIXTURE.
    Then they take up the modernization of the old flamethrower! request
  6. riwas
    riwas 12 November 2021 08: 10
    0
    Belarusians outstripped us
    https://rg.ru/2020/02/21/belorusskie-letaiushchie-granatomety-pokazali-na-video.html

    Armenians also have a development
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 12 November 2021 10: 38
      +2
      Duc, such "projects" and prototypes, even how many have already "come up with"!

      By the way, in one article I read that a quadcopter circuit is not the best option for "flying" machine guns and grenade launchers! Such a drone has a tendency to wobble in flight ... not a cheap electronic aiming system is needed! (This is because many "flying grenade launchers" are based on a quadcopter ...)
  7. svp67
    svp67 12 November 2021 09: 59
    0
    Well then, for a UAV that can fly up 800 meters with such a "devil pipe", manage to stabilize, fire a shot and fly away ...
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 12 November 2021 10: 35
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Well then, for a UAV that can fly up 800 meters with such a "devil pipe"

      to shoot from the knee or prone? wassat Have you ever seen the use of NURS from an airplane or helicopter? perhaps RPO-2 is planning a corrected case, then from any height available for UAV guidance devices request
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 November 2021 10: 41
        +1
        Quote: SanichSan
        Have you ever seen the use of NURS from an airplane or helicopter?

        Yes, yes ... Firstly, NURS, and then a single point shot, secondly, the flight speed of an aircraft and a helicopter, in the third, the mass of an aircraft and a helicopter and NURS, and therefore the ability to fly stable for aiming and firing
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 12 November 2021 10: 55
          0
          Quote: svp67
          First of all NURS, and then a single point shot

          well, as if not single but at least double.
          Quote: svp67
          secondly, the flight speed of the aircraft and helicopter

          is the flight speed of a UAV very different from that of a helicopter?
          Quote: svp67
          thirdly, the mass of the aircraft and helicopter and NURSs, and hence the ability to maintain stable flight for aiming and firing

          Well, this is absolutely nonsense. Do you assume that the UAV is chattering like a rag when flying? this is complete nonsense.
          Or are you hinting at a harsh recoil with which the UAV will not cope? return from RPO which infantrymen use from the shoulder?
          PS
          watch the video how in Yemen from the RPG-7 from the hill they get into the jeep at a distance of 1.5 km, despite the fact that the RPG has a range of 700 m. maybe this will lead to the idea of ​​what will change in the range of application of RPO when used with a UAV. UAV guidance system is more serious than "Yemeni rebel by eye" wink
          1. svp67
            svp67 12 November 2021 10: 59
            +1
            Quote: SanichSan
            is the flight speed of a UAV very different from that of a helicopter?

            It depends on what ... But the maneuverability is definitely excellent
            Quote: SanichSan
            Well, this is absolutely nonsense. Do you assume that the UAV is chattering like a rag when flying? this is complete nonsense.

            Do you think that precision ammunition is used from them for no reason? The platform itself is very unstable and highly susceptible to various influences, especially metrological ones. So, they use stabilizers in every possible way.
            And RPO shooting is very specific. There, even when shooting from the ground, you can put a grenade into the ground next to you
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 12 November 2021 11: 11
              0
              Quote: svp67
              It depends on what ... But the maneuverability is definitely excellent

              and where does the maneuverability? UAV that should enter into a dog fight with a ground target belay well, nonsense. went on course and worked. all. request like our SU with Hephaestus in Syria with FABs from 5000m. if anything, FAB is freely falling.
              Quote: svp67
              Do you think that precision ammunition is used from them for no reason? The platform itself is very unstable and highly susceptible to various influences, especially metrological ones. So, they use stabilizers in every possible way.
              dear, well, where did you get this nonsense? do you have any real-life example? video evidence that the UAVs are unstable in flight? or is it your personal speculation without factual confirmation?
              1. svp67
                svp67 12 November 2021 11: 17
                +1
                Quote: SanichSan
                and where does the maneuverability?

                How does it come about? 600-800 meters, does this mean being in the area of ​​destruction of even small arms, or do you suggest using disposable UAVs?
                Quote: SanichSan
                dear, well, where did you get this nonsense?

                From personal experience. Enough. Although, watch the film "Start Elimination", it shows the moment when the UAV scout was forced to stop observing.
                Quote: SanichSan
                video evidence that the UAVs are unstable in flight?

                They are therefore not there, because for filming, the same UAV scout uses an electronic stabilizer of filming, but this is not enough for firing. There it is also necessary to keep the platform itself on the firing line during the shot, since the RPO charge is not controllable
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 12 November 2021 11: 58
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  How does it come about? 600-800 meters, does this mean being in the area of ​​destruction of even small arms, or do you suggest using disposable UAVs?

                  so .. it looks like you need to clarify the features of the physics of your fictional world ...
                  what happens to a grenade fired from RPO-A if it flies 800m and does not run into obstacles?
                  1) disappears magically.
                  2) explodes regardless of whether it hit some kind of obstacle or not.
                  3) continues to fly until it hits an obstacle.
                  Quote: svp67
                  From personal experience. Enough. Although, watch the film "Start Elimination", it shows the moment when the UAV scout was forced to stop observing.

                  movie? Feature Film?!? belay why "Start Elimination" and not "Transformers"? laughing
                  type in the search engine "drone flight". I did not find a single attack UAV with an unstable flight there. request can you find? Or is it still your speculation based on feature films?
                  Quote: svp67
                  They are therefore absent because for filming, the same UAV scout uses an electronic stabilizer of filming, but this is not enough for firing. There it is also necessary to keep the platform itself on the firing line during the shot.
                  ok, above I gave you the request text for google. there are a lot of videos of drone flights taken from the side. how many videos of drone drone with unstable flight will you find there? What do you want to say? what shakes the UAV in bad weather? the plane also shakes and the video of the unstable flight of the heaviest planes is available more than similar ones with drone UAVs (I haven't found it yet, maybe you can do it wink ). Do you want to say that unguided weapons cannot be used on conventional aircraft? into the furnace the whole history of aviation? belay
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 12 November 2021 12: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    what happens to a grenade fired from RPO-A if it flies 800m and does not run into obstacles?

                    Will fall to the ground and explode without hitting the target and what is the point of such shooting?
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    movie? Feature Film?!?

                    Well what is
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    Do you want to say that unguided weapons cannot be used on conventional aircraft?

                    It is possible, but in one gulp, and not aiming at areas, as a single or even double shot from RPO is not very suitable for this. Do you even understand what this is about? It looks like no ...
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    how many videos of drone drone with unstable flight will you find there?

                    Cars under several tons of weight, with a wing span of 12 meters and large restrictions on overloads when maneuvering ... Yes, they are much more stable in flight, but the fact of the matter is that they are not suitable for shooting at 800 meters, they are just targets there, with their speed and ability to maneuver
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 12 November 2021 12: 30
                      0
                      Quote: svp67
                      Will fall to the ground and explode without hitting the target and what is the point of such shooting?

                      let's continue ...
                      you shoot from a height of 1000m. what will the grenade behave like?
                      1) will fly 800m and head vertically to the ground. the range of the shot will be 800m.
                      2) will continue to move along the trajectory and fly several kilometers from the launch point.
                      Quote: svp67
                      It is possible, but in one gulp, and not aiming at areas, as a single or even double shot from RPO is not very suitable for this.

                      we write in the search engine "aviadarts". we look at how two - four NURS modern aircraft hit targets. UAVs are not yet involved in firing on aviadarts, but technically there are no obstacles.
                      Quote: svp67
                      Cars under several tons of weight ... Yes, they are much more stable in flight

                      exactly? belay When was the last time you flew on an airplane? Have you ever got into turbulence? wassat
                      Quote: svp67
                      they are not suitable for shooting at 800 meters

                      are you even friends with physics? is there kinetic energy, acceleration, trajectory, and so on? 800 meters is the sighting range. sighting! this is sighting limitation installed on the RPO-A for firing an infantryman at a ground target located with him on the same plane. will your UAV stand on the ground? belay
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 12 November 2021 12: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        we look at how two - four NURS modern aircraft hit targets.

                        What is the purpose? Their shooting is carried out at areal targets and is assessed by the number of those caught in the smallest circle of dispersion from the target.
                        Well, who is where the missiles hit? They never showed it, in the target area, yes, in the competition circle, it may also be, but a direct hit is a rarity
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        is there kinetic energy, acceleration, trajectory, and so on?

                        Yes, yes ... this is almost all that his engine gives, yes he can fly further, but getting with every meter is too problematic, all these grenades are painfully sensitive to the movements of air masses
                      2. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 12 November 2021 12: 56
                        0
                        Quote: svp67
                        They are shooting at areal targets.

                        # facespalm
                        and a flamethrower is that? special means for pinpoint damage to the liver of the platoon commander? a flamethrower and is designed to hit an area target.
                        Quote: svp67
                        Yes, yes ... this is almost all that his engine gives, yes he can fly further

                        fine! good drinks
                        Quote: svp67
                        all these grenades are painfully sensitive to the movements of air masses

                        Let's be honest, neither you nor I have data on how sensitive. well, except that indirect in the form of corrections in aiming in a crosswind. I know for RPGs, but there they are associated with the design features of the ammunition. high windage of the stabilizer leads to the fact that the grenade unfolds in a crosswind. but the RPO grenade has a different design. more like missiles for MLRS. their accuracy is quite acceptable with their range up to 20 km. based on this, we can conclude that such a design of ammunition is less susceptible to external influences. hi
                      3. svp67
                        svp67 12 November 2021 13: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        and a flamethrower is that?

                        In this case, it is a "capsule" flamethrower, very similar in appearance to a grenade launcher, disposable
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        a flamethrower and is designed to hit an area target.

                        This one is not ... it is point, the specificity is
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        neither you nor I have data on how sensitive

                        Why, shooting tables, where wind corrections are indicated
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        high windage of the stabilizer leads to the fact that the grenade unfolds in a crosswind.

                        No, not only, here the masses also matter, the tail is lighter, it is easier to turn it
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 12 November 2021 17: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: svp67
                        No, not only, here the masses also matter, the tail is lighter, it is easier to turn it

                        but these are all known and calculated parameters request what prevents them from being taken into account when aiming at a target? moreover, it will be done by the computer, not the head of the "Yemeni rebel". for free-falling bombs I have already successfully calculated and automatically brought to the target and bombed. what will also prevent, in automatic mode, from firing a RPO?
                2. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 12 November 2021 12: 04
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  600-800 meters, this means being in the affected area

                  the RPG-7 has a range of 700m. is it possible to shoot more than 7 km from the RPG-1? Here is an example of how the shot range will change if you shoot from an elevated position:
                  [media = https: //adult.noodlemagazine.com/watch/-103440248_456239338]
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 12 November 2021 12: 06
                    +1
                    Quote: SanichSan
                    is it possible to shoot more than 7 km from the RPG-1?

                    It is possible, but let's put the question differently, but with what probability will you hit the target you need with an RPG-7 grenade?
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 12 November 2021 12: 42
                      0
                      Quote: svp67
                      It is possible, but let's put the question differently, but with what probability will you hit the target you need with an RPG-7 grenade?

                      depends on the sighting device and the quality of the ammunition. if it is a "Yemeni insurgent" with counterfeit African ammunition, it is purely by accident. if the ammunition is of stable quality and with a system like Hephaestus, then quite acceptable accuracy can be achieved. won FABs with an accuracy of + -3m from 5000 put. what's the problem with the flamethrower grenade?
                    2. Reserve buildbat
                      Reserve buildbat 12 November 2021 17: 07
                      0
                      And how do you shoot from an RPG at 1 km, if the grenade has a self-liquidator at 700 m? This was used well when shooting at helicopters.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 12 November 2021 17: 05
    0
    And what improvements do the RPO need to use it with a UAV? Belarusians do not seem to care and use ordinary ones. A strange kind of presentation ... It's nice that "Bumblebee" is undergoing a change (worthy, I hope) and some "stupid" remark about "the possibility of using RPO-2 on drones" ... There seems to be only drones need to be finalized
  9. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 12 November 2021 22: 49
    +1
    sulfur from the sky is cool!
  10. acetophenone
    acetophenone 13 November 2021 01: 32
    0
    Flamethrower from a drone - only if for civilians. And in general, it's easier to fly closer and drop. Or in the "kamikaze" mode. No jet engine needed.
    And in general - all in a holiday.