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Moscow's "Trojan horse" in NATO: Poland became disillusioned with the alliance with Turkey against Russia

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Speaking at a hearing in the Polish parliament, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki was forced to admit that the authorities are aware of the negative role of Turkey in the migration situation on the Belarusian border. Moreover, the prime minister called Turkey's actions fully synchronized with those of Russia and Belarus.


As it turns out, Warsaw was seriously counting on a military-political alliance with Turkey against Russia. So, Poland bought Turkish drones, which it hoped to use in the event of an armed conflict with Russia or Belarus. Warsaw was also impressed by the position of the Turkish authorities on Crimea. However, everything turned out to be not so rosy: the publication Defense24 reminds that more than once experts warned about the impossibility of perceiving Turkey as an ally against Russia.

Poland flirted with the Turkish leadership for too long, buying a Bayraktar UAV and sending a Polish military contingent to Turkey - to the Incirlik base. But Ankara had no intention of responding to Poland in the same way, according to the authors in the Polish press. In fact, Turkey has become Moscow's "Trojan horse" in NATO.

The arguments in favor of cooperation with Turkey were based on the fact that historically this country was at war with Russia, while Greece and Cyprus were just traditionally pro-Russian countries. But in the end, Turkish Airlines began transporting migrants from Iraq to Minsk. Of course, the Polish newspaper writes, the Turks are well aware that then these migrants are sent to the Polish border. Moreover, Turkey has increased the number of flights to Belarus, while Iraq has stopped direct flights.

In fact, attempts to refer to historical the conflicts between Turkey and Russia are a manipulation of facts. After all, now the interests of Turkey and Russia in the Middle East are interconnected. In addition, to perceive international politics through the prism of the category of friends and enemies is pure infantilism: Turkish-Russian relations are opportunistic, but this does not mean that Poland should fully rely on cooperation with Turkey.

Finally, as the Polish press writes, one should not forget that both Moscow and Ankara want to weaken the West, and Poland is perceived as a historical part of the West. The interests of the West and Turkey in the Middle East do not coincide, and it is much more profitable for Ankara to cooperate with Moscow than with Poland, for example.

Ordinary Poles are also critical of cooperation with Turkey. In the comments they write that it is time for Turkey to decide whether it is with NATO or with Putin. And these are the most loyal comments. Other Polish commentators point out that Turkey is an Islamic state, albeit a little secularized, and the West has been and remains a historical and ideological enemy for it. Finally, Turkey solves several important tasks for itself: it actually squeezes out the Kurdish population in the Middle East, weakens the West, acquires the ability to blackmail this West with its migration policy.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 November 2021 10: 17
    +13
    in Poland became disillusioned with the alliance with Turkey against Russia
    Well, since Poland has become disillusioned, then probably, according to their idea, Erdogan should (simply must) stay awake at night and think everything as if to "be friends" with the Poles against Russia. Well, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has said so much in recent days that it's time to declare war.
    1. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 11 November 2021 10: 25
      +5
      I agree, Erdogan should be ashamed.
      1. hrych
        hrych 11 November 2021 11: 15
        +4
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        Erdogan should be ashamed

        Erdogan's shame consists of women's beards, the noise of cat footsteps and fish songs.
    2. Finches
      Finches 11 November 2021 10: 33
      +8
      The Poles have found a Trojan mare inside the country too! Judge of the Constitutional Tribunal Kristina Pavlovich accused the Polish opposition of collusion with Russia. "Opposition, on your knees! Ask the Poles for forgiveness for the joint attack with Putin and Lukashenko on the eastern borders of the Polish Republic," she wrote in social networks. And this is a judge of the Constitutional Tribunal, who should be impartial in his public judgments, basing his conclusions on facts and evidence, the provisions of the Constitution - which says that in Poland, in all branches of government (and for quite some time now) there are not quite sane people!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2021 11: 02
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        The Poles have found a Trojan mare inside the country too!

        It is not clear why the Poles are indignant, the Kurds, Iraqis, Syrians, Afghans do not go to Poland, they do not need it, but through Poland to Germany. We must skip them and all problems will go away.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 11 November 2021 11: 26
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          We must skip them and all problems will go away.

          So according to their (EU) rules, which EU country they came to, it should give them shelter. This is what the Poles did not count on. But at least temporarily they could. They would also have been given money "for the maintenance of migrants". Then they would have fused it on the sly. But no! "Not permissible!" - shout the proud gentry! it is understandable, they themselves are naked with ... then you know.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 November 2021 12: 35
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            So according to their (EU) rules, which EU country they came to, it should give them shelter.

            It is so, but they will not stay there, they have relatives in Genmania, the village community, the diaspora, why do they need Poland, which will not provide them with material assistance, and hates them, but "Mother Merkel" beautifully hugged the children of migrants under the TV cameras , and loudly said "Come to us, we will take everyone!" And what kind of demonstrations the Germans organized, in defense of migrants, I have already spared a sea tear for the first time in my life.
            And what is promised, decent people must fulfill.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza 11 November 2021 12: 40
              +2
              Quote: tihonmarine
              And what is promised, decent people must fulfill.

              Where did you find decent people there? )))
    3. Clear
      Clear 11 November 2021 10: 41
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      in Poland became disillusioned with the alliance with Turkey against Russia
      Well, since Poland has become disillusioned, then probably, according to their idea, Erdogan should (simply must) stay awake at night and think everything as if to "be friends" with the Poles against Russia. Well, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has said so much in recent days that it's time to declare war.

      Turkey now has no time for Poland. She is busy with the military development of the Black Sea, claiming that 50% belongs to her, and is dripping a canal to which no international norms apply. And strengthens military cooperation with Ukraine.
      Turkey is still a thorn in Russia.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2021 12: 42
        0
        Quote: Clear
        Turkey now has no time for Poland.

        Yes, somehow Turkey never considered Poland in its influence, this is the only way the Poles themselves think, but the sultans of the Ottoman Empire considered Poland as a territory to be seized, but did not have time.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2021 11: 03
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has said so much in recent days that it's time to declare war.

      It would be better if Moravetsky was silent, he would pass for a clever one.
    5. knn54
      knn54 11 November 2021 11: 05
      +1
      According to the Yankes' definition:
      1. Allies - countries with which there are agreements on cooperation in the field of national security. With whom they defend common interests and "values".
      2. Friends. - countries with which there is cooperation on a wide range of international issues. BUT without a written commitment / obligation to protect each other
      3.Partner - decision on a SPECIFIC issue / topic. But not on a wide range of issues.
      The USA and the Russian Federation, for example, can ONLY be partners.
      "England has neither permanent allies nor permanent enemies. England has only permanent interests".
  2. NDR-791
    NDR-791 11 November 2021 10: 18
    +1
    It is much more profitable for Ankara to cooperate with Moscow than with the same Poland.
    Mutually beneficial exchange ??? Apples for tomatoes ??? And what are almost all the articles today from the point of view of Poland?
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2021 10: 21
    0
    The Poles have grown wiser. Late.
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 November 2021 10: 29
    +4
    Erdogan is something! laughing
    Well you have to guess! - to transport the Kurds by air to Minsk so that they can make their way through Poland to Germany on foot.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 11 November 2021 10: 44
      +3
      I just don't understand - what are the migrants fixated on the Belarusian-Polish border? Go over the edge, there is a completely leaky bucket border. Well, further to the same Poland. Or was it necessary to collect them exactly here?
      1. hrych
        hrych 11 November 2021 11: 12
        0
        Minsk accepts ditch flights from Iraq and Turkey, and also issues tourist visas. And here Luka was cunning and prepared to respond to the attempted coup in Belarus. Here a wedge is being driven into the contradictions between Poland and the EU. Well, the target of migrants is Germany. The closest route is through Poland and 2 borders. From Ukraine to Germany through Slovakia and the Czech Republic there are four borders and the path is three times more distant.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2021 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Well you have to guess! - to transport the Kurds by air to Minsk so that they can make their way through Poland to Germany on foot.

      And what is there to guess, the Turks know very well that the mafia supplies migrants to Europe, and which way it points, that way the migrants follow.
    3. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 11 November 2021 10: 57
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Well you have to guess! - to transport the Kurds by air to Minsk so that they can make their way through Poland to Germany on foot.

      Erdogan solves his problem - he drives the Kurds out.
      Where to send him out "drummingly".
      But Minsk runs the risk of earning not only border, but also internal troubles on assistance.
    4. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 11 November 2021 11: 00
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Erdogan is something! laughing
      Well you have to guess! - ferry Kurds to Minsk by air

      And even alive. Oh, this Erdogan ...
    5. askort154
      askort154 11 November 2021 11: 59
      0
      voyaka uh .....Erdogan is something!

      And Luke is something. I thought of playing the role of a tough "Erdogan", but this substituted not only himself, but also Putin, creating a stalemate. hi
      1. Shket53
        Shket53 11 November 2021 13: 30
        -1
        Well, what are you ... the chess game is just beginning ...
        1. askort154
          askort154 11 November 2021 13: 39
          0
          Shket53 ...Well, what are you ... the chess game is just beginning ...

          More like a zugzwang. hi
          1. Shket53
            Shket53 11 November 2021 13: 43
            -1
            Time heals ... time cripples ... time will tell
    6. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 11 November 2021 12: 46
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Erdogan is something!
      Well you have to guess! - ferry Kurds to Minsk by air

      you probably need a cherry on this cake? hi the transportation of migrants to Minsk, not only from Turkey but also from Egypt, is handled by an Italian (suddenly) company. Moreover, in the EU parliament, Italian parliamentarians ardently support sanctions against Belarus, but clarify that these sanctions need to be introduced so that they do not harm Italian air carriers wassat
  5. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 11 November 2021 10: 29
    +1
    Apparently I really wanted to bark at Russia from both sides, and even at the same time. One is somehow not with the hand, and it’s ssykovato, but together, uh .. Just like a "haberdasher and a cardinal, this is power!"
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner 11 November 2021 10: 35
    +3
    It is more of an Istanbul donkey than a Trojan horse.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 11 November 2021 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: Captive
      It is more of an Istanbul donkey than a Trojan horse.


      In the EU, it seems, Poland was called the "Trojan Donkey".

      For Turkey, the epithet "Horse" from the Poles should sound like a compliment, this is the recognition by the Poles themselves that Turkey is higher and nobler than Poland.
  7. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 11 November 2021 10: 39
    +1
    The opinion of Erdogan R.T. regarding the EU on the east "fine" at the reception: Erdogan and Ursula von der Leyen, there was not enough chair wink and you don't need to say something ...

  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 11 November 2021 10: 50
    0
    Other Polish commentators point out that Turkey is an Islamic state, albeit a little secularized, and the West has been and remains a historical and ideological enemy for it.

    And the Poles doubted it, or they forgot history, like ...
    On May 3, 1683, the Turkish army, together with Sultan Mehmed IV, reached Belgrade. And in Vienna, where the news of the approach of the Turks was greeted with surprise, quickly replaced by shock, and, finally, horror, panic began quite predictably. In July 1683, a 120-strong Ottoman army approached the walls of the capital of the Holy Roman Empire, Vienna.
  9. Nexcom
    Nexcom 11 November 2021 10: 58
    +3
    Poles are very offended when they are treated differently from what they themselves thought of.
    And their imagination is outrageous.
  10. Cowbra
    Cowbra 11 November 2021 11: 21
    +3
    Turkey is a Trojan horse in NATO, Poland is a Trojan donkey in the EU ... Wherever you spit, there are only Greeks around ... Even in the south, diogens are unwashed, barrel-cotted, jumping from the cold)
  11. iouris
    iouris 11 November 2021 11: 52
    0
    Their alliance is called the United States and NATO.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 11 November 2021 12: 04
    +1
    As the Polish press writes, one should not forget that both Moscow and Ankara want to weaken the West, and Poland is perceived as a historical part of the West.

    It was Poland who imagined itself to be an integral part of the West and considered it almost the main guiding force in the EU. The Americans helped instill confidence in the Polish authorities, so that they cannot believe that the world revolves on an axis, and not around Poland.
    1. Clear
      Clear 11 November 2021 15: 53
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      As the Polish press writes, one should not forget that both Moscow and Ankara want to weaken the West, and Poland is perceived as a historical part of the West.

      It was Poland who imagined itself to be an integral part of the West and considered it almost the main guiding force in the EU. The Americans helped instill confidence in the Polish authorities, so that they cannot believe that the world revolves on an axis, and not around Poland.

      At one time, Poland skimmed the cream from the EU, now it is necessary to give money back, and this does not fit in their heads, the money was taken by strangers and for a while, but to give their own and forever crying
  13. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 12 November 2021 07: 24
    -1
    it is stupid to operate with the facts of the 18-19 centuries, the world is changing and only the gentry are stuck somewhere in the 17th century