In the message of the Ministry of Defense, information appeared about the promising S-550 air defense system

_{The picture shows the S-500 air defense system}

With its publication, the Russian defense department actually announces the creation of a promising anti-aircraft missile system belonging to a new generation of air defense systems. In the message of the country's Ministry of Defense, the reference goes to the statement of President Vladimir Putin.

In particular, the statement is given by the head of state, which he made during a recent meeting in Sochi. This meeting was attended by representatives of the Ministry of Defense, as well as defense-industrial enterprises of the Russian Federation.

As noted, Vladimir Putin, addressing the audience, said that it is extremely important for Russia to develop the anti-aircraft and anti-missile component.

From the statement cited by the Ministry of Defense:

President Vladimir Putin made a special emphasis on the importance of the advanced development of the Russian air defense and missile defense systems, the supply of S-350, S-500 and S-550 air defense systems to the troops.

It should be noted that the C-550 nomenclature did not appear anywhere in official sources. The Ministry of Defense itself is so far leaving this information without any explanation. At the same time, if the president made a reservation, it is unlikely that these words would be published by the official department a few days after they were uttered.

Recall that only recently in Russia appeared the newest anti-aircraft missile system S-500 "Prometheus", which is the most advanced air defense-missile defense system in the world. According to some reports, it is capable of working as an anti-satellite weapons... If the S-550 is indeed being developed, then we can assume that this is one of the promising options for the development of the S-500 air defense system.

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[Victor_B]

It should be noted that the C-550 nomenclature did not appear anywhere in official sources. The Ministry of Defense itself is so far leaving this information without any explanation. At the same time, if the president made a reservation, it is unlikely that these words would be published by the official department a few days after they were uttered.

Oh-h-chen interesting!
And rightly so! (IMHO)
Compared to the S-350, the S-400 simply has a different functionality and full compatibility.
Therefore, we can assume that the S-550 will be a step up from the S-350, and not from the S-500.

[1976AG]

Or maybe in a "truncated" form it is C-500, and in the full configuration it will be called C-550. Although guessing is not a rewarding occupation, we will wait for the details.

[Victor_B]

Quote: 1976AG

Or maybe in a "truncated" form it is C-500, and in the full configuration it will be called C-550. Although guessing is not a rewarding occupation, we will wait for the details.

It is a truncated and lightweight, more mobile version with small intermediate missiles.
In assortment.

[1976AG]

And the S-500 turns out to be even smaller missiles than the S-550 uses? It's all kind of muddy ...

[just exp]

and the S-350 SAMs are larger than the S-300?

[1976AG]

Quote: just EXPL

and the S-350 SAMs are larger than the S-300?

For the S-350, missiles from the S-300 arsenal were taken as a basis, but improved in electronics and other components, which led to a decrease in their size and weight. Rockets for the S-550 are made on the basis of PRS-1 interceptor missiles. Feel the difference. No matter how they have been improved, they will definitely not work in the dimensions of the S-500 missiles.

[Genry]

Just put in:

[knn54]

The mobile (object) missile defense system of short-range interception S-550 is a development of the limited mobile missile defense system S-225 "Azov". The project was launched 40 years ago in parallel with the work on the creation of the S-300PMU1 complex.

[militarist63]

The mobile (object) missile defense system of short-range interception S-550 is a development of the limited mobile missile defense system S-225 "Azov". The project was launched 40 years ago in parallel with the work on the creation of the S-300PMU1 complex

That's right!

[Orange bigg]

And what to assume then? Open Wikipedia and read. Everything new is well forgotten old.

... The S-550 short-range missile defense system is a project of a mobile missile defense target system. The system was developed in 1981-1988. a team headed by B. V. Bunkin and A. A. Lemansky at the Almaz Central Design Bureau. The development of the S-550 missile defense system was carried out along with another S-375 short-range intercept missile defense system (also at the Almaz Central Design Bureau), on the basis of the S-225 missile defense system project to protect strategically important objects of the country [2] - its individual especially important administrative and industrial centers [3]. The termination of work on the S-550 missile defense system was carried out simultaneously with the closure of a number of projects of other Soviet design bureaus in the field of defense within the framework of agreements reached during the meeting of General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Mikhail Gorbachev with US President R. Reagan in Reykjavik on October 11-12 1986 year

Project of an object missile defense system / mobile missile defense system of short-range interception S-550 using the experience of creating a limitedly mobile missile defense system S-225 "Azov". In terms of configuration and tasks, the S-550, in all likelihood, was similar to the S-225 system, but was created on a new element base. The development was started in accordance with the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 635-188 of July 5, 1981. The development was carried out by the Almaz Central Design Bureau, together with the Novator OKB (short-range intercept missile) and ITMiVT (computer). Simultaneously with the work on the S-550, AA Lemansky supervised the creation of the S-300PMU1 and -PMU2 anti-aircraft missile systems [6]. By the end of 1981, technical proposals and a preliminary design of the system were issued. By the mid-1980s. the design documentation for the system was developed [7]. In 1985, as the technical documentation for missile defense systems was released, the factories began manufacturing missile defense systems. By 1988, the components of the firing (firing) complex were manufactured - the hardware of the radar guidance system, the command post, computing facilities, the antenna post was completed by 50% - the rotary base, metal structures and antenna elements of the phased array were manufactured at the antenna post. In view of the fact that the system was developed as redeployable, and therefore it was decided to release the system's means in containers, which would make it possible to quickly deploy the system at a defended facility. All the equipment of the systems of the firing complex (OK): the radar guidance system, the command post with the operator's seats, the computer center with the computer, were housed in three containers. Tests of the S-550 were planned to begin in 1990 in the version of a stationary complex, so as not to go beyond the Treaty on the Limitation of Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems, which prohibited the creation of mobile anti-missile defense systems - the deployment of the system, according to the original concept of the project, would have been impossible without violating the provisions Of the ABM Treaty [8] (according to documents from the archive of ex-deputy head of the defense department of the Central Committee of the CPSU VL Kataev, exported to the United States, where the S-550 short-range intercept missile defense system appears along with the missile defense system of silo launchers of intercontinental ballistic missiles "Sambo" , the deadline for presenting the system for testing was set for 1988) [3] Preparations for the assembly of the firing complex began, but in 1988 the work on the S-550 missile defense system was discontinued. The prototype equipment was dismantled after the collapse of the USSR [5].

. Combat means
Short-range interceptor missiles are a modification of the PRS-1 (53T6) two-stage interceptor missile with a solid-propellant rocket engine, developed for the S-225 missile defense and the S-375 missile defense system.

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%A0%D0%9E_%D0%A1-550

[1976AG]

Thank you for reading, but it also says that modifications of the PRS-1 missiles are used, and forgive me, they have such dimensions and weight that it is somehow difficult to imagine all this in a mobile version.

[Orange bigg]

Why is it difficult?

The Russian military has successfully tested a new domestic anti-missile missile defense system capable of becoming an absolute defense against enemy missile attacks. Unlike American missile defense missiles, the test of which in the United States ended in another failure, Russian products successfully hit the target. This phrase, slightly reminiscent of old Soviet propaganda, nevertheless, exhaustively describes what happened at the Sary-Shagan test site, where the second test launch of the PRS-35M (1T53M) anti-missile missile was made from the 6th site. According to Colonel Andrey Prikhodko, deputy commander of the special-purpose air defense and missile defense formation of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the product successfully hit the designated target, making it the second successful launch of the PRS-1M anti-missile missile in a row. The previous one was carried out in the same place, in Sary-Shagan, on November 23, 2017. Initial tests with the new engine took place on December 20, 2011.

What is PRS-1M rocket

The 53T6M atmospheric high-speed interceptor missile of the near echelon was developed by the Novator Experimental Design Bureau in Yekaterinburg, which is part of the Almaz-Antey Concern VKO JSC.

It is a deep modernization of the 53T6 short-range anti-missile of the A-135 missile defense system and is intended for use as a short-range anti-missile in the A-235 system. In this capacity, it is designed to intercept and defeat the warheads of intercontinental ballistic missiles. The range is about 100 kilometers, the height is up to 30 kilometers. The missile, therefore, is the striking element of the missile defense system of Moscow and the Central Industrial Region, capable of automatically fixing a target, independently identifying it and independently making a decision to intercept.

And here we read it very carefully.

And now we will present on this base a "completely new" rocket ...

"Nudol" is a weapon of the anti-missile defense complex of Moscow, - Viktor Litovkin, one of the leading military experts of Russia, noted in a conversation with Constantinople. - It is not directly related to the S-400 and S-500 family, but it can be used in conjunction with them. Including - against satellites. And the nuclear warheads of the former anti-missile missiles are being replaced by kinetic ones. "

According to some information, the range of the missiles will be up to 1500 km, and the altitude of hitting targets by medium-echelon missiles will be from 50 to 120 km. At the same time, the new complex will have broad capabilities not only to intercept warheads of ballistic missiles, but also spacecraft of a potential enemy.

Thanks to these and some other completely classified qualities, the Nudol missile defense system will soon create an insurmountable anti-missile dome over the center of Russia, military experts assure.

https://m.tsargrad.tv/articles/uspeshno-ispytana-absoljutnaja-zashhita-rossii_110919

[1976AG]

Okay, wait and see what will be loaded into the TPK S-550.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: 1976AG

Okay, wait and see what will be loaded into the TPK S-550.

Well, are there any other options?

[Alex777]

For the Navy, the creation of a relatively compact missile with a range of 400 km "based on the technology of the 40N6 missile" was announced.
So the version that the S-550 will be more mobile than the S-500 is
not groundless.

http://www.almaz-antey.ru/press-sluzhba/publikatsii-smi/na-chto-sposoben-noveyshiy-korabelnyy-kompleks-pvo-poliment-redut/

https://iz.ru/814559/2018-11-20/novaia-zenitnaia-upravliaemaia-raketa-morskogo-bazirovaniia

[Barberry25]

most likely still a reservation and it was about the S-350, S-400 and S-500

[just exp]

maybe a lure for the CIA

[Barberry25]

everything is possible

[Klingon]

C-500 - human interface, C-550 - AI interface

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Victor_B

Oh-h-chen interesting!

Somehow the news did not catch on.
Here, at VO, the news about the creation, soon, of the S-600, S-700 and S-800 systems was announced a long time ago. So the Darkest One is late.
But seriously - keep it up! Don't stop there.

[venik]

Quote: Victor_B

The S-350 has a different functionality and full compatibility compared to the S-400. Therefore, we can assume that the S-550 will be a step up from the S-350, and not from the S-500.

========
Then it would be more logical to assume that the further development of the S-350 should be called: S-450, not S-550 !!! So, the assumption is more than controversial!

[bayard]

Quote: Victor_B

Therefore, we can assume that the S-550 will be a step up from the S-350, and not from the S-500.

If this is not a reservation of the Supreme, then most likely it will be the same S-350, but with a new radar based on PPM from the S-500 radar. With such a radar and a new radar, the divisional radar will be able to operate in standby mode, and not only be included in the combat mode when ready for 30-40 minutes.

[Orange bigg]

The S-550 is a missile defense system. The S-550 short-range anti-missile defense system is a project of a mobile target anti-missile defense system with the new PRS-1M missile, it is also an atmospheric high-speed short-range anti-missile missile 53T6M.

[bayard]

Well, therefore, the S-500 was divided according to the functionality of aerodynamic, including hypersonic, targets, and the S-550 - by ballistic.
An expensive toy must have turned out. But to cover the positional areas of the strategic nuclear forces and the largest industrial and admin. centers, will be the very thing.

[isv000]

If a new system goes to the troops, it means that the next one is being prepared for testing, and the design bureau is already drawing the next one. While the striped ones bring their litaki to mind, they can already be handed over to the scrap ...

[Orange bigg]

The S-500 is a new-generation air defense system, and the S-550 is a new-generation missile defense system. They were simply given different names, since these are, in fact, two different complexes, each with its own missiles and radars.
The S-550 is not the beginning of the development of a new system, since at the meeting it was specifically about the supply of the S-550 to the troops on an equal basis with the S-350 and S-500. That is, the development has already been completed.

... According to the report, Russian President Vladimir Putin during a series of traditional defense-related meetings in Sochi made "a special emphasis on the importance of the priority development of domestic air defense and missile defense systems." It was about the delivery of S-350, S-500, S-550 air defense systems to the troops.

https://www.vesti.ru/article/2637326

[1976AG]

It has always been said that the S-500 is no longer a purely air defense system, but already an air defense-missile defense system, which is inappropriate to use as an air defense system, so you already fantasized that, calling the S-500 a new generation of air defense. The main thing here will be what missiles will be used on the S-500 and S-550, then everything will become clear.

[Orange bigg]

There are essentially two systems, one air defense, the other missile defense, and it is quite logical that one of them is the S-500, and the other is the S-550.

[Barberry25]

Nuuu if we take into account the different subordination services, it is possible .. I think in the near. time will give an answer

[teptyar]

Oh, is it?))) Bekaa Valley 1982, Libya 1986, this is with the power of the USSR !!! Well, further Libya in 2011, Karabakh in 2020, in Syria, Israel now calmly dismantled our air defense. So far, our air defense system loses clean to striped-eared technique! Okay, that with earflaps there are enemies to throw!)))
This is just the announcement of the C550. It is possible to tell beautifully about the tests and show them at the parade.
and put in the Kalashny row, where Su57, Armata, Checkmate, the aircraft carrier Storm are.

[Orange bigg]

... This is just the announcement of the C550. It is possible to tell beautifully about the tests and show them at the parade.

This is not an announcement, it is specifically about the supply of the S-550 to the troops.

Russia has developed the S-550 anti-aircraft missile system, it became known from the speech of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at a conference call with the leadership of the armed forces.

“The Defense Minister recalled that from November 1 to 3, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief held in Sochi another series of meetings with the leadership of the Defense Ministry and enterprises of the military-industrial complex. Measures were considered to adequately respond to changes in the situation near the Russian borders. Much attention was paid to improving the country's aerospace defense system. The head of state made a special emphasis on the importance of the advanced development of domestic air defense-missile defense systems, supplies to the armed forces of the S-350, S-500, S-550 systems, ”the ministry said after the meeting.

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/09/11/2021/618ac0129a794750f2b88223

Oh, is it?))) Bekaa Valley 1982, Libya 1986, this is with the power of the USSR !!!

And with technologies, at best, the 80s of the last century, or even earlier. But time does not stand still, as does technological development.

... Well, further Libya in 2011, Karabakh in 2020, in Syria, Israel now calmly dismantled our air defense. So far, our air defense system loses clean to striped-eared technique! Okay, that with earflaps there are enemies to throw!)))

Do not write nonsense. Libya in 2011, what does it have to do with us and our air defense?
Karabakh 2020. There was no Russian army in Karabakh, there was an Armenian army with mostly Soviet air defense. Here are your Bayraktars in Karabakh.

... in Syria, Israel has now calmly dismantled our air defense. While our air defense system loses clean to striped-eared technique!

According to an agreement with Russia, Israel launched strikes on Shiite units, and where it was necessary, the air defense did a good job. So do not la la.

The installations intercepted 12 Delilah missiles in Syria.
Military sources in Syria reported on the interception of 12 Israeli Delilah stealth missiles.

The incident occurred during the attack on Damascus airport and the city of Al-Ghizlaniyah in February 2021, when F-16 fighters of the Israeli Air Force reportedly fired 12 Delilah cruise missiles intended for air defense. However, the Buk-M2E launchers deployed in the area brilliantly coped with repelling the IDF strike, repelling the strike of all missiles.

https://www.topnews.ru/news_id_359155.html

Yeah. Especially they "outplayed" the Syrian air defense in April 2018.

[teptyar]

thanks for the detailed answer.

[Dkuznecov]

The ruler who ruined the national economy,
peaceful people will tolerate.
But the military, left out of work,
this will not be forgiven and crucified on a pine tree in
the first trip to the taiga.
It's not 800 (eight hundred) enterprises to create for you
for two five-year plans.

[Victor_B]

Quote: DKuznecov

The ruler who ruined the national economy

Who are you talking about?

[Dkuznecov]

Choose anyone, all handsome.
He who has ears, let him hear.

[Victor_B]

Quote: DKuznecov

Choose anyone, all handsome.

Ahhhh!
Reached out damn Stalin?
Or (oh horror !!!) Putin with his long arms?

[Dkuznecov]

As a person, I don't know Stalin, but what I know about him is disgusting.
If this is not a rumor.
But give credit to the resource manager,
what he was, he is obliged.

[Victor_B]

Quote: DKuznecov

As a person, I don't know Stalin, but what I know about him is disgusting.

The common man is detected!
LGBT - you are such entertainers!

[Dkuznecov]

Good reasoning.
Personally, I apologize, completely
it does not matter how this or that individual
solves his intimate issues.
Moreover, he actively solves them.
about 20 years old. The main thing is not to shout about it
on every corner, for example in the comments.

[Victor_B]

Quote: DKuznecov

Personally, I apologize, completely
it does not matter how this or that individual
solves his intimate issues.

There are two meanings of this word!

[Real Vugluskr]

And the cormorant is detected, albeit with four stripes

[just exp]

did you detect yourself?

[skif8013]

Quote: DKuznecov

Choose anyone, all handsome.
He who has ears, let him hear.

Whose will you be?)

[Dkuznecov]

Oh, yes. So be it. And after them - four five-year plans.

[Cron]

Quote: DKuznecov

But the military, left out of work,
this will not be forgiven and crucified on a pine tree in
the first trip to the taiga.

Yeah, everyone was crucified on pines, and Yeltsin, and Chubais, and Nemtsov, and so on .. Who is this all designed for?

[Dkuznecov]

But it was necessary not to be almond-shaped, you must agree.
On the other hand, the siloviki came to power.

[bayard]

Quote: DKuznecov

On the other hand, the siloviki came to power.

What are the security forces?
These are all in the service of the "family".
And among the real security officials, such a purge took place in several stages that only their own remained.

[Dart2027]

Quote: DKuznecov

The ruler who ruined the national economy,

How zhek disturbs some from any message about the successes of "this power".

[Dkuznecov]

Please tell us about the "successes".

[Dart2027]

https://sdelanounas.ru/

[Dkuznecov]

Not funny. I wanted to be in Kislovodsk literally hoping,
to give a Pole something, with an inscription made in the Russian Federation.
Am I going to give him a nuclear reactor?
I don't see anything from the national economy. Panties from Ivanovo?
Funny.

[Cron]

Quote: DKuznecov

I wanted to be in Kislovodsk literally hoping,
to give a Pole something, with an inscription made in the Russian Federation.

This is, of course, a global problem. How to live with this now? And the Pole probably thinks that too, but I'll give him something with an inscription made in Poland ...

Am I going to give him a nuclear reactor?

Give a refrigerator, anyway it will come out less in cost and dimensions

[Dkuznecov]

I once had Indesit.

Stopped freezing.
I summoned my comrades.
Nope, they say.

"The foam is filled with a joint of copper and aluminum.
there chemical corrosion occurs. Specially."

Resigned.
I bought a Japanese wardrobe.
that's how I live.

[Cron]

Quote: DKuznecov

I once had Indesit.

Stopped freezing.
I summoned my comrades.
Nope, they say.

Not life, but continuous pain. It happens...

I once had cowards from Ivanovo.
Broke.
I called my mom.
Nope, he says.

"Dispersed at the seam and all out. On purpose."

Resigned.
I bought Japanese ones.
that's how I live.

[lucul]

Not funny. I wanted to be in Kislovodsk literally hoping,
to give a Pole something, with an inscription made in the Russian Federation.
Am I going to give him a nuclear reactor?
I don't see anything from the national economy. Panties from Ivanovo?

Laughter . Do you do anything with your hands? Or just language?
Because, earlier in Minsk, all products were Made in China, and now almost half are made in the Russian Federation.

[Dkuznecov]

Personally, I'm rugged. Although in the smoking-room it is not welcome to get personal.
The fact that I'm fine with the Russian language is a separate topic. Thanks to parents.
As for what has been done in the Russian Federation, it mainly refers to the light industry.
Machine-tool building, machine building, I'm afraid tochmash,
are in .. decline, so to speak.
I do not speak for the military-industrial complex. There are other interests and budgets.

[I am not a robot]

Well, you try to refute the information that is given on the site was made by us, there is also about the national economy

[Dkuznecov]

How do you not understand.
1. I am for NH. For its development.
2. I am not a provocateur and do not call for changing the government in any way.
3. I personally, personally, it seems that the last 20 years
were "well fed" enough to get HX up.
Thank you.

[I am not a robot]

90-everything was bad, everything was falling apart - there is no question of any development
2000-something started to work, on the ruins-what kind of development, though, to keep what is left
2010-attempts to develop production begin, but all sorts of sanctions greatly complicate everything (for example, instead of buying from the Japanese, like the rest of the world, wings made of composites, we have to develop and produce ourselves, so this lengthens the development time, also increases the cost
that is, only in the last 10 years has there been at least some development

[Dkuznecov]

You have painted everything correctly.
I myself was born in the early 70s
and was a lost generation.
I am surprised by the failure of 2000-2020.
Everything. Smoked, expressed, went home.

[Vlad69]

So for itself Japan could not have wings, and indeed could not. Everyone landed.

[poquello]

Quote: DKuznecov

I wanted to be in Kislovodsk being nadys

go home from Kislovodsk

[Dkuznecov]

Yes, I arrived on Sunday, buddy.
Into our darkness.

[poquello]

Quote: DKuznecov

Yes, I arrived on Sunday, buddy.
Into our darkness.

Your darkness looks like somewhere near Zhitomir, do you really not know such Russian brands - Zolla, Zinger, Zarina, Westland, Vassa, Vis-a-vis, Tervolina, Savage, Rolsen, Riston, Ralf Ringer, Proplex, Prology, Paolo Conte , Mr Ricco, Kanzler, Jardin, Greenfield, Finn Flare, Faberlic, Bosco di Ciliegi, AKAI)))))))))))))))

[76SSSR]

Quote: DKuznecov

Not funny. I wanted to be in Kislovodsk literally hoping,
to give a Pole something, with an inscription made in the Russian Federation.

Present your Pole with Russian felt boots - they will be very useful to him this winter in his Polish apartment.

[Dkuznecov]

I would not like to flirt about this.
It's really hard for Poles to be
smart and beautiful at the same time, like
in a famous anecdote.
On the other hand, they are Slavs,
unlike the same Czechs.
But, since Poland cannot be the center of power a priori
(this place was occupied by Yugoslavia),
now they (the Poles) are simply beaten against all the coastal rocks.

[Dart2027]

Quote: DKuznecov

I don't see anything from the national economy.

Have you tried to see it?

[Sergey Melnik]

And what can a Pole himself give with an inscription made in Poland? Nothing but apples. And the most interesting thing I would like to ask is, what do you consider to be a native farm and what products from it can you give as a gift, and which not?

[lucul]

Please tell us about the "successes".

Russia, under the tsars, was the number 1 grain exporter in the world, and now Russia is the number 1 grain exporter in the world.
And only under the communists did Russia buy grain for gold.

[Dkuznecov]

We bought hard varieties in the USSR in Canada.
Our grain was mostly fodder.
As soon as I remember these gray pasta, I will shudder.
But these are distortions in planning, the ideas were good.

[lucul]

But these are distortions in planning, the ideas were good.

No distortions - the people just didn't want to work for their workdays. As they gave freedom, they again flooded the whole world with grain, as under the kings.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: lucul

Russia, under the tsars, was the number 1 grain exporter in the world, and now Russia is the number 1 grain exporter in the world.
And only under the communists did Russia buy grain for gold.

Only Russia sells for export only wheat of the 3rd class and leaves IV V classes for feeding the population - removing from GOST 9353-2016 the mention of dividing grain into feed and food.
In the USSR, the priority was the cultivation of grains I and II - which are now not grown at all in principle.
It is in vain that you rejoice in the export of wheat, in exchange for bread, you were officially allowed to mix flour-grinding lots of 4-5 grade feed grain, and the government secured this by introducing a new GOST 2016.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/business/news/2016/02/24/631269-furazhnoi-pshenitsi

I bake the bread myself and it is very difficult to find good quality flour on sale - gluten is low, which is a CB product.
I happened to use flour in Europe (Italian) from European standard wheat (wheat of average standard quality of the European Union, approximately corresponds to the domestic 2nd class).
A very significant difference, not in favor of domestic flour.

[Puler]

but the fact that under Putin they resumed sowing and harvesting grain and became leaders in grain, apostle of the reign of Nemtsov and other khakamads, powdered milk and chicken legs from omeriki ...

[Dkuznecov]

Just don't drag this official in.
Contrary, it would sound more correct.
He wanted to go to grain procurements.
ps My opinion.

[skif8013]

Quote: DKuznecov

Please tell us about the "successes".

Okay, 90s headline Russia asks the US for food aid (Bush's legs): 2020 headline Russia has come out on top in grain exports and will feed the world.)

[Serg Kam]

Grain export is certainly an achievement.
But do not forget that the RSFSR collected the same amount of grain, but at the same time bought grain.
Here is a chart, grain harvest per capita.

[1976AG]

Well, neither Gorbachev nor EBN were crucified.

[Dkuznecov]

They will throw stones at me now, but in this case I agree
with the Chinese scheme for resolving issues of theft and other
theft.

[Yuriy71]

Khrushchev, for example, successfully destroyed the "National Economy", and smashed the army with his Priorities! So, who are you talking about? Or, as the writer Kafka, are you in the "not for everyone" style?

[Dkuznecov]

I'm talking about the current ruler,
Khrushchev is just a boy.
we discard the military-industrial complex and look at the national economy.
We are looking for at least something in the apartment with the inscription "made in the Russian Federation".
Something that can be proudly presented to a foreign tourist, for example.
And a request. We're not losing a cow here.
Emotionless. A smoking-room - it is a smoking-room.

[vitvit123]

Well, in vain you are so ... there is no creativity at all ... I did not hesitate to come up with what to give your friend - a Pole ... a gorgeous gift in every sense. Give him a can of gas - RUSSIAN GAS. With which lighters are filled or for a portable burner .. a gift and just for a smile and for a joke with a hint, it depends on how familiar ...

[poquello]

Quote: vitvit123

a can of gas - RUSSIAN GAS. Which is used to fill lighters or for a portable burner ..

by the way, the domestic last bought, no worse than English, for comparison, the Polish transparent sucks

[Dkuznecov]

Interesting. Indeed with a hint.

[just exp]

go to the store and read where "imported" goods are made, even sneakers and Marlboros, not to mention all sorts of tides, domestics and throat toilets are made in Russia.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: DKuznecov

We are looking for at least something in the apartment with the inscription "made in the Russian Federation".
Something that can be proudly presented to a foreign tourist, for example.

ummm ... foreign tourists are given souvenirs. I assure you that matryoshka dolls, painted porcelain or "the air of St. Petersburg" in a tin can, are made in Russia.
bad example you chose ...

[Barberry25]

in the 91st they didn't even crucify .. And yes .. according to Russia. Forward, over the 5 years of the program's existence, more than 2 new enterprises were opened ..

[Stas157]

Quote: Barberry25

.And yes ... according to Russia Forward, over 5 years of the program's existence, more than 2 new enterprisesth ..

Well, wow! ...Where are they?

Nowadays, any LLC or individual entrepreneur, where three people in the garage mold cinder blocks and paving slabs, is called an enterprise. And then people like you compare them with real factories in the USSR.

[Barberry25]

Someone bothers you to go to Time Ahead and check?

[teptyar]

OGo here are the minuses they threw! The patriots here DO NOT like it when they criticize the technique and the system! By the way, almost all of the 800 enterprises were bought in the West and deployed here with the help of 20 thousand American engineers.

[Troll]

Zhirinovsky mentioned c600 two years ago)).

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Troll

Zhirinovsky two years ago from 600 mentioned

... and the S-700! So the prospects are enormous!

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

..and the S-700!

everyone laughed, and in the course of promising developments leaked. no matter how imprisoned for espionage, the liberal democratic forces in Russia will be beheaded

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: SanichSan

no matter how jailed for espionage

Yes ... without Zhirinovsky in Russia it will be more boring! But even without Volfovich, infa pops up ... So in one message it was said that the S-550 will be an "intermediate link" in the transition to the next generation air defense system ... (That is, the newest technical solutions for the next air defense system will be tested on the C-550 ... (S-600? ))

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

(That is, the S-550 will test the latest technical solutions for the next air defense system ... (S-600?))

most likely yes, S-600. you know the traditions of the military-industrial complex. Air defense missile defense "S-№", tanks "T-№", and in MLRS dangerous weather phenomena

[Cron]

If that's true, would it be something like the S-350? With a shorter range, more missiles and the ability to intercept hypersonic targets?

[Barberry25]

or vice versa, a system capable of hitting air targets for 550 km ... then it will be a hunter for AWACS aircraft and refuellers

[just exp]

it is declared for the S-500

[1976AG]

On tests in Cap. Yare missile from the S-500 hit an air target at a distance of 553 km.

[just exp]

I'm talking about the same ...

[Nikolaevich I]

At the end of the last century, in the USSR, a certain air defense system was being developed under the same name ... S-550!

[Tagan]

Quote: DKuznecov

Not funny. I wanted to be in Kislovodsk literally hoping,
to give a Pole something, with an inscription made in the Russian Federation.
Am I going to give him a nuclear reactor?
I don't see anything from the national economy. Panties from Ivanovo?
Funny.

What do you dislike about a nuclear reactor? They don't know how to do such things anywhere. Only here. And, again, this is much more technologically advanced than the Ivanovo cowards so hated by you.)))

[Tagan]

Quote: DKuznecov

I'm talking about the current ruler,
Khrushchev is just a boy.
we discard the military-industrial complex and look at the national economy.
We are looking for at least something in the apartment with the inscription "made in the Russian Federation".
Something that can be proudly presented to a foreign tourist, for example.
And a request. We're not losing a cow here.
Emotionless. A smoking-room - it is a smoking-room.

I would give an Iskander to your friend Pole (on my own and not alone).

[Dkuznecov]

They really don't get jokes with Iskander.
It is a pity that we, the Slavs, have lost
this country. Slavic, by the way.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: DKuznecov

They really don't get jokes with Iskander.
It is a pity that we, the Slavs, have lost
this country. Slavic, by the way.

It was the Poles who broke away from the Slavs. Outcasts and traitors, if in a nutshell, as well as the Ukrainians.

[Alex_1973]

DKuznecov (Dmitry Kuznetsov)
They really don't get jokes with Iskander.

Few people can do this at all ...

It is a pity that we, the Slavs, have lost this country.

Has she ever been ours ?! No, I know that part of Poland was part of the Republic of Ingushetia, and after the Great Patriotic War, Poland was part of the Warsaw bloc, BUT really Poland was ever really OUR? The answer is NO, WAS NOT, from the word AT ALL AND NEVER! The Poles have ALWAYS been and remain our worst enemies.

Slavic, by the way.

Of these, the Slavs are like a bullet made of shit, however, like the rest, the Bulgarians are also Slavs, but apart from betrayal we have not seen anything from them, the same applies to the Czechs. The only Slavs whom I recognize as blood brothers are the Serbs.

[Pavel57]

Quote: DKuznecov

Choose anyone, all handsome.
He who has ears, let him hear.

Let's start with Nicholas II? Who is the model and ideal in your view?

[Dkuznecov]

I think the resource manager is Stalin.
This is my personal opinion, of course.

[Well done]

We must fire rockets like sausages. (Khrushchev seemed to be talking) And then there is a lot, but only on paper and in speeches. And it is necessary in the metal. And don't forget about competent personnel. Where is Armata, where is 57 and the Hunter, Poseidons, etc.? A lot of hotts, but no. How long can you use the same Armatu ...

[inxxxx]

Everything is very cleverly veiled, some dry numbers for the people, but what actually happens in the design bureau where they construct such an air defense system?
One PR, there was a king, but all went out.

[Pavel57]

Quote: DKuznecov

I think the resource manager is Stalin.
This is my personal opinion, of course.

The price of the Stalin era for the country was very high. And the ending with Khrushchev was a failure.

[Dkuznecov]

I think in terms of price / quality ratio,
it was the most profitable option in the whole history.

[1976AG]

Quote: Pavel57

Quote: DKuznecov

I think the resource manager is Stalin.
This is my personal opinion, of course.

The price of the Stalin era for the country was very high. And the ending with Khrushchev was a failure.

The price of an era without Stalin would have been much more tragic, since we would definitely not have resisted against Nazi Germany, which means that our state simply would not have had any further history. No.

[rocket757]

Quote: 1976AG

since we would definitely not have resisted against fascist Germany

Do you live in an alternative history?
In history, it is foolish to use IF!
Whether it is or not .... it is that we resisted and fascism was defeated. Together with allies.
No more would.

[1976AG]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: 1976AG

since we would definitely not have resisted against fascist Germany

Do you live in an alternative history?
In history, it is foolish to use IF!
Whether it is or not .... it is that we resisted and fascism was defeated. Together with allies.
No more would.

It is foolish not to notice what the Soviet Union was able to do before the start of the Great Patriotic War. And thanks to whom it was done. And only because of this we now live in general. If you don't want to face it, these are your problems.

[rocket757]

Yes, yes, really where is she? Only in your eyes ... and the rest is all stupid ...

[1976AG]

Not everything, but the expression about alternative history is just something)

[rocket757]

There is a fact of the events that took place ... everything is recorded, documented and .... in general, this way, and not otherwise.
You make a statement ... where is it from, what FACTS, events are supported? Alternative universe \ option \ someone's fantasy, sick or not, these are also options.
Opinions can \ should be different, otherwise it becomes completely boring! It's just to say that everything else, stupidity ... is not successful, to put it mildly.

[Nikolay1987]

We are building the Death Star, not otherwise

[rocket757]

In the message of the Ministry of Defense, information appeared about the promising S-550 air defense system

complexes, air defense - missile defense systems, will be modernized, new ones are being developed and ... this is a natural process.

[Or me]

At the same time, if the president made a reservation,

V. Putin never "makes a reservation". This is a subtle hint with fat consequences for enemies.

[Tagan]

Quote: DKuznecov

They really don't get jokes with Iskander.
It is a pity that we, the Slavs, have lost
this country. Slavic, by the way.

Rather, the Poles have lost their shores, and for a long time. They did not go far from the Nazis.
So write in your own name if you have lost something there.

[sportline]

It was never clear to me why it was necessary to defend Moscow and only the center of Russia. As if all other regions are of little value. I live in Krasnodar. The most important port in the south of the country and the Crimean military base are 100 km away. So this is all - food resources and the country's security from the Turks in the south.
In the Far East, after the bombing, it will not be difficult for China to occupy 50% of our territory at once, etc. Why is Moscow considered the main value of the nation? If something is wrong, please correct it.

[Petrov]

The Supreme made a reservation - a wave had risen. A kind of "verbal intervention"

[TatarinSSSR]

All this begins to resemble a cut of the MO budget. And specific. Not a single vaunted S-350-400-500 has been tested in combat conditions, unlike the same American Patriots and the Israeli Iron Dome. While their super characteristics in words and teachings are far from reality. For that, new series are plopped by the supplier one by one ...

[kolchak]

Oh you! And the Americans already know about all these systems. After all, all defense plants to some extent belong to Western companies. Therefore, all developments that are underway in Russia are leaking to the west. Who are we scaring? First, we need to nationalize our defense industry and energetically important objects of our economy, so that no one could know what we are up to.