Kurdish women militants

87
The Turkish-Kurdish conflict has lasted for more than a quarter of a century. Serious armed clashes between the Turkish army and the fighters of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, formed by 27 in November 1978, began in 1984 and continue to this day with different strengths.

The Kurdish Workers' Party is waging war to establish its own state, and the Turkish government is fighting to preserve the territorial integrity of its state. By the beginning of the XXI century, the Kurds are the most numerous people who do not have their own statehood.

Kurdish women militants


For all 30 years of war, armed clashes subside, then flare up with a new force. Beginning in the 1993 year, unilateral armistice was declared in the 5 war. Kurdistan Workers Party willingly accepts women in the ranks of the rebels. So in the 1990-s almost 30% of all its fighters were women. In the traditional culture of the Kurds, a woman is powerless and depends entirely on the man. But in the army, all this does not matter. All fighters, both men and women, undergo the same instruction, train together and eat together.

We offer a look at the photographs of Colin Delfosse’s “Amazon PKK” project (“Les Amazones du PKK”). The pictures were taken at the military base of Kurdish women in Iraq.



The road to the camp. The Kurdish population makes up the majority within Kurdistan - an ethnographic region located in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. In the mountains of the Iraqi region of Kurdistan are the rear bases of women from the Kurdish Workers Party.



Rebel women. The rebel base is located near the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan, Erbil, one of the most ancient cities in the world. Getting to the base first on an SUV, and then have to walk a long time along the mountain paths.



On this base, female fighters belonging to various sectors of society and having citizenship from different countries undergo military and ideological training. All fighters live in truly Spartan conditions.



Women go to the military base, like to work. Each female fighter must undergo semi-annual training. In this case, women's loads are no different from men's. It is strictly forbidden for women to enter into close relationships with male fighters. In accordance with the party principles of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, society should grant women the same rights as men. One of the consequences of such equality is the observance of army discipline without any concessions and hard soldier's work on an equal basis with men.



Female fighters must learn to own a gunshot weapons. After completing a full course of instruction, some women remain in the army and take part in hostilities, some go “to the reserve”.



One of the bullets set fire to the dry grass. Those who are at the base, try to extinguish the fire as soon as possible, until they found the base.



In traditional Kurdish society, women are assigned a subordinate role. But at the military base, the course of physical training is the same for men and for women.



Cadets wash at the mountain stream.



Return to base.



Cadets should eat standing up, like soldiers during real fighting. With such an organization, you can quickly repel a surprise attack of the enemy. The cadet carries his ration on himself, and the food supply is strictly rationed. The cadet menu includes bread, beans, traditional feta cheese and olives.



In the afternoon theoretical lessons begin. The humanities program that students must master is quite extensive. The fundamentals of the PKK ideology, philosophy and literature descend into it.



Morning exercises at five in the morning.



Cadets hide from the Turkish drone.



If the drone notice fighters, then bombers will arrive at this place in a few hours.



Even when the drone has already flown away, the cadets continue to move with great care, hiding in the ravines.



The female students allowed themselves to climb a tree to pick fruit.



Right on the tree you can eat mulberry.



At the end of the day, the "cultural program" begins.



The base is hidden in the mountains of the Cadile ridge in northern Iraq. On this base, they are preparing new fighters, and also use it as a “base of rest” for those who return from the front for several days.



The fighters from the front come to this base for a short rest, and then return to the front again.



The fighters are going to meet in honor of Zilan Day. The PKK celebrates the Day of Remembrance of this Kurdish heroine quite widely: Kurdish politicians and even members of parliament take part in the events. Comrade Zilan (Zeinab Kinaji) 30 June 1996 was able to independently organize a large-scale terrorist attack.



Dressing up as a pregnant woman, Zeinab Kinaji managed to mingle with the audience watching the Turkish military ceremony. As a result of the attack, 8 soldiers of the Turkish army were killed along with the suicide bomber, and 29 were injured. Party comrades declared Zilan a symbol of the struggle for the freedom of the Kurdish people and Kurdish women.



Female partisan detachment celebrates Zilan Day.



Events dedicated to Zilan Day.



The fighters perform Kurdish folk dances.



Round dance.



Fighters watch the evening issue News.
Our news channels

Subscribe and stay up to date with the latest news and the most important events of the day.

87 comments
Information
The ability to comment on this post has been disabled.
  1. tekinoral
    +4
    19 September 2012 09: 17
    intimacy with men is not allowed! every single one of them will be raped, this is a fact!, and regarding the population, they reproduce and have 7-8 children
  2. +4
    19 September 2012 09: 30
    Splinters in the Turkish heel.
  3. Yarbay
    +2
    19 September 2012 10: 00
    terrorists - definitely!!
    1. +5
      19 September 2012 10: 31
      Alibek, welcome. Why do you consider everyone who disagrees with the Turkish government and fights it to be a terrorist? But I consider them freedom fighters.
      1. +4
        19 September 2012 10: 41
        It’s a matter of opinion, in fact, anyone who tramples on the rights of the national majority, disguises himself as pregnant women, blows himself up among the civilian population, destroys banks and other infrastructure, attacks checkpoints of the legitimate government - this is a terrorist, no matter how much we whitewash him. On the other hand, if all this happens in another country, hostile to the interests of our state, then such people in that country can be called either “rebels” or “freedom fighters”!
      2. tekinoral
        -1
        19 September 2012 10: 48
        Do you think the militants in the North Caucasus are also freedom fighters?
        1. Bismark
          +1
          19 September 2012 11: 52
          Most of them fought for money. Mercenary rabble, but it doesn’t look like this here.
          1. Yarbay
            +4
            19 September 2012 12: 01
            Quote: Bismark

            Most of them fought for money. Mercenary rabble, but it doesn’t look like this here.

            How unlikely it is that they are also fighting for money!
            Turkey's special forces seize drugs from terrorists in tons!!
            The drug and arms trade is mainly controlled by these terrorists!
            1. Bismark
              +1
              19 September 2012 12: 21
              Provide evidence, provide a link to an article that supports your point of view.
              1. Ataturk
                +3
                19 September 2012 12: 31
                Quote: Bismark
                Provide evidence, provide a link to an article that supports your point of view.


                They are involved in drugs not only in Turkey and the CIS. In Kazakhstan, for example
              2. Yarbay
                +1
                19 September 2012 12: 34
                Quote: Bismark

                Provide evidence, provide a link to an article that confirms your point of view

                There are a lot of such articles, but mostly in Turkish!
                Just because you haven’t heard or read doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist!!
                Here's an example from recent events.

                In the Turkish province of Diyarbakir, the country's security forces discovered 26 tons of drugs, Trend reported on Friday with reference to the TRT Haber TV channel.

                The drugs are reported to belong to the terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party. The PKK was involved in drug trafficking as a source of financing terrorist attacks in Turkey.

                A criminal case has been initiated into the fact.
                http://vestikavkaza.ru/news/V-Turetskoy-provintsii-Diyarbekir-obnaruzheny-26-ton

                n-narkotikov-Rabochey-partii-Kurdistana.htm
                1. Bismark
                  -1
                  19 September 2012 12: 45
                  Weighty! Then I can put them on the same level as the rebels who are rebelling in Syria.
      3. Ataturk
        +4
        19 September 2012 11: 12
        Quote: Steam Train
        Why do you consider everyone who disagrees with the Turkish government and fights it to be a terrorist?


        Locomotive, you know how I feel about you and how much I respect you. I am 34 years old, you may be older, but I have a lot of experience in such matters. Let me give you brotherly advice!!! Read it carefully and you will understand everything.

        1. Over the past 200 years, I can 100% guarantee that Kurdistan did not exist.
        2. The Chechens wanted independence and those who are now fighting in the mountains, with some of their relatives I spoke with abroad. They want independence from Russia. In the end, who are they? It is in the eyes of Russia that they are terrorists! You fight them.
        3. Abkhazians and Ossetians lived together for almost 100 years, decided to secede, and in the end you supported them. They did not turn out to be terrorists for you. Double standards policy.
        4. People, it doesn’t matter if you’re in the minority or in the majority, if you’ve got a headache and decided to secede, these are TRAITORS! It’s one thing that they had a state 100 years ago, and another that they decided to self-determinate. These are the real traitors. They betrayed the bread they had been eating for centuries.
        5. Did Armenians live poorly in Baku and Azerbaijan? We lived well. They occupied good positions and now their own people are swearing at them for the fact that this all happened. I can also post a video.

        When I told you about traitors, I have reason to say so. Armenians are now on the Internet looking for traitors among my people, who are national. minorities, such as Lezgins, and others, and instruct them against the country where they live. Just read how vilely these traitors act?




        Is there a guarantee that they won’t betray you in the same way? Betrayal and baseness and meanness CANNOT BE TREATED. It's in the genes. I gave you this example.

        And now look, they, the Kurds, are shaking Turkey, where they live far from being poor, Iran and Iraq. Because of their ambitions, betrayal, both soldiers and people die.

        Think about my words. Be taller than them.
        1. Ataturk
          +2
          19 September 2012 11: 18
          Just as they betrayed the country where they grew up, so they will betray their patrons, it’s a matter of time. The facts are that they will betray their patrons, you also know this, I showed what they think about you. So the Abkhazians and Ossetians will betray you sooner or later. Karma is a powerful thing. What goes around comes around.
          The Kurds in Turkey, I can show and prove this, receive loans and subsidies much better in terms of percentage than the Turks themselves. Just like here in Baku, from the minister to the officers are Lezgins, and the prosecutor’s office is Talysh. What else should we do for them to calm them down? Should they bow? Kissing feet? so that they don’t ask for separation and self-determination? A traitor is a traitor. Why did the Abrahamyan battalion take part in the Abkhazian war? Guess 3 times, and then just check the majority of the population of Abkhazia. And then check in Anapa. And in the Krasnodar region as a whole, this will backfire on you. For the time being. Just as soon as they find stronger patrons than the Kremlin, on the same day it will all be shaken.

          Think about my words, friend.
          1. Bismark
            0
            19 September 2012 11: 47
            Hello Ataturk. I will also support the locomotive, but I will argue why. When there was an earthquake recently in Turkey, mainly Kurdish settlements were affected. The Turkish Ministry of Emergency Situations was not in a hurry to get there, unfortunately, there is a lot of tension in the relations between the Kurds and the Turks, which leads to what we see in this article.
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              19 September 2012 11: 52
              Quote: Bismark
              Kurdish settlements were damaged. The Turkish Ministry of Emergency Situations was not in a hurry to get there, unfortunately there is a lot of tension in relations between the Kurds and the Turks

              This is propaganda!!
              And you, as an Armenian, that is, an enemy, are more inclined to believe rumors and canards in newspapers!!
              1. Ataturk
                +1
                19 September 2012 12: 10
                Quote: Yarbay
                This is propaganda!!

                Right. There were Turks there and even JEWS from Israel, they saved everyone
                of people. Anyone who says that the Turks did not help is a lie. If they
                If they didn’t help their people, I would spit on the name of my avatar.
                And so my country was the first to help, by planes, trucks
                with help, even Israeli specialists were there. Everyone was there.

                Bismarck, let me give you some friendly advice before you assert
                anything related to Turkey or Azerbaijan, ask me or Yarbai
                Everything will be explained to you in detail!!!
                1. Bismark
                  +1
                  19 September 2012 12: 19
                  Agreed. Türkiye does not recognize the genocide of the Armenian people. I'm interested in your opinion.
                  1. Yarbay
                    +4
                    19 September 2012 12: 44
                    Quote: Bismark
                    Agreed. Türkiye does not recognize the genocide of the Armenian people. I'm interested in your opinion.

                    My opinion is based on the memoirs of General Mayevsky, Lieutenant Colonel Tverdokhlebov and General Ordoshelidze!!
                    All of them in their memoirs describe the mass destruction of the Turks by the Armenians and with particular cruelty!!
                    And why doesn’t Armenia want to recognize the hundred thousand Azerbaijanis killed by the Armenian Dashnaks in Baku on March 31, 1918 as genocide?? One hundred thousand people were killed within two days!!
                    Can you imagine this??
                    1. Neutral
                      -3
                      19 September 2012 12: 49
                      The aggressive Azerbaijani propaganda machine, in its desire to denigrate Armenians, uses a variety of techniques for this. One of these techniques is the creation of virtual authors and virtual memoirs written on their behalf. Moreover, such virtual pseudo-memoirs are multiplying, replicated by numerous anti-Armenian websites, and distributed on forums on behalf of “fake” Russians, “former military personnel,” and often fake Armenians. Sometimes such materials appear as dirty foam on Russian Internet resources.

                      These include “Essay on Colonel Tverdokhlebov.” This work, hanging on almost all Azerbaijani propaganda sites, was discovered, according to its “researchers,” in the “archive of the Department for the Study of Military History and Strategy of the General Staff of the Turkish Republic.” Next come some details: “World War I cabinet, shelf 401, file 1578. l. 1-24, 1-67.” It’s hard to say how many pasta products this Turkish “World War I cabinet” with its hundreds of shelves hides, but the mythical “Colonel Tverdokhlebov”, who allegedly surrendered to the Turks, speaks Russian with a very characteristic accent and tells truly amazing stories about the Armenians (the authors’ style has been preserved - P .):

                      “Colonel Torkom... proclaimed the autonomy of Armenia and himself as its reigning ruler.”

                      “I thank God that the circumstances developed did not allow me to leave with those about whom the ancient Roman historian Petronius wrote: “Armenians are also people, but at home they walk on all fours” and whom the Russian poet Lermontov aptly described in the verse: “You slave, you are a coward, you are an Armenian.”

                      I think these two phrases are quite enough to understand where “Tverdokhlebov’s Essay” was created and what relation it has to Russian officers and the Russian language.
                      1. Ataturk
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 13: 06
                        Quote: Neutral
                        The aggressive Azerbaijani propaganda machine, in its desire to denigrate Armenians, uses a variety of techniques for this.

                        Ay byadbakht, I’m not slandering, but showing what you write, what you do, with facts and documents. What's not nice? Can’t drive noodles anymore? Have Azerbaijanis gone from markets to computers? Ah ah ah.
                    2. Bismark
                      +1
                      19 September 2012 12: 53
                      I've seen a lot, so I can. But unfortunately, on the world stage they simply try to hush up such issues and not remember them. The collapse of the Union alone created many conflicts, including the Karabakh conflict, creating huge gaps between peoples.
                      1. Yarbay
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 13: 07
                        Quote: Bismark
                        The collapse of the Union alone created many conflicts, including the Karabakh conflict, creating huge gaps between peoples

                        It is unconditional!
                        Absolutely right!!
                    3. Ataturk
                      +2
                      19 September 2012 13: 00
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      And why doesn’t Armenia want to recognize the hundred thousand Azerbaijanis killed by the Armenian Dashnaks in Baku on March 31, 1918 as genocide?? One hundred thousand people were killed within two days!!


                      No comment.

              2. Bismark
                +1
                19 September 2012 12: 15
                And who told you that I am Armenian? I already wrote somewhere that I have a large mixture of nationalities (Ukrainian, Armenian, German, Belarusian).
                I mainly read and analyze from several sources, but rely on the fact that Turkey does not recognize the genocide of the Armenian people, that’s all.
                1. Ataturk
                  +1
                  19 September 2012 12: 22
                  Quote: Bismark
                  but I rely on the fact that Turkey does not recognize the genocide of the Armenian people, that’s all.


                  I will recognize the Armenian genocide if you provide me with archival documents.
                  I openly admit it and then, as a political refugee, I will go somewhere else.
                  Can you?

                  I can tell you the archive for 1914 to 16.
                  Including the census of the population of Armenian nationality for this period. I wonder where this figure of one and a half million came from. Can you imagine
                  this figure? The Turks would need concentration camps for this. But they didn’t have them.

                  I need archives about after 1917, how many Armenians lived in
                  Turkey after the genocide.

                  I read the Turkish version, can you provide me with the Armenian ones? I can tell you where they are. Moscow, st. Bolshaya Pirogovskaya, 17

                  Can you give it to me? We haven't been able to look at them for more than 20 years.
                  And you can also answer me why, before the genocide, more than 60% of Turkish
                  The ambassadors were Armenians, what happened for no reason, the Turks became brutal?
                  1. Neutral
                    -2
                    19 September 2012 12: 53
                    At the end of January 1918, Andranik condemned the massacre of more than 5 thousand Russian soldiers and officers who were returning to their homes from the front, organized by the Musavatist circles of Azerbaijan at the Shamkhor station near Ganja. In an interview with a correspondent of the Mshak newspaper, the general emphasized: “The Caucasian peoples must treat the Russian people with understanding, taking into account that a Russian soldier defended them from the invasion of barbarians. The Ganja incident gives rise to sad reflections. You cannot treat the sons of Russia in this way, who shed water on for three years of fighting their blood in our mountains."
                    1. Ataturk
                      +4
                      19 September 2012 13: 08
                      Quote: Neutral
                      At the end of January 1918, Andranik condemned the organization organized by Musavatist circles in Azerbaijan


                      Which Andronik? Traitor to the Turks? Former Turkish citizen? Andronik Pasha? Whose ear was cut off for treason? Are you talking about him? Who betrayed the most vile images of the Turks, who walked like a dog between the Sultan’s legs. Are you talking about him? A coward who decided to become a puppy to save his worthless skin?

                      If so, then I’m tired of reading and listening to his words.
                      What can a traitor and a low and vile person say?
                      1. Kamilla
                        +3
                        19 September 2012 13: 22
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Which Andronik? Traitor to the Turks? Former Turkish citizen? Andronik Pasha? Whose ear was cut off for treason? Are you talking about him?


                        you know... when I was in China... we were once at a reception in the Russian embassy... for some reason there was a picture of Andronikos hanging with 2 ears... and the Armenian diplomat happily explained to everyone who he was... we listened, listened...then our diplomat replied, is this not the traitor? general of the Turkish army? The Turks cut off his ear for this...for betrayal...so it was necessary to draw him like that...with one ear!!! )))) and then it began... the Armenian turned pale... how twisted their faces were, if you could see)))))) they themselves were not happy... that they started talking about him... and the Russians, who did not know this, became keenly interested... and changed their opinion about the “great” one-eared general...
                      2. Ataturk
                        +3
                        19 September 2012 13: 31
                        Quote: Kamilla
                        For some reason there was a picture of Andronik with 2 ears hanging there..


                        They sewed a donkey ear on him or photoshopped it.

                        Quote: Kamilla
                        the Armenian turned pale...what faces they had
                        skewed, if you could see))))))


                        Kam, they always hid their truth in the hope that no one
                        doesn't know their history.
                        He's a traitor. He betrayed his country where he grew up and grew up.
                        He's a dog!!! He walked between the Sultan's legs to save
                        your cheap and treacherous life!!!

                        I’m angry because, what we’ve come to, that the words of traitors have become
                        quote!!! The words of dogs have become authority!!!
                2. tekinoral
                  0
                  19 September 2012 12: 30
                  Let the Armenians initially answer for the 527.000 thousand Turks they exterminated
                3. Yarbay
                  +2
                  19 September 2012 12: 36
                  Quote: Bismark
                  Who told you that I am Armenian?

                  In the last topic you said that you and your relatives fought against us, some of whom were killed!
                  Did I misunderstand you?
                4. Kamilla
                  +1
                  19 September 2012 12: 45
                  Quote: Bismark
                  I already wrote somewhere that I have a large mixture of nationalities (Ukrainian, Armenian, German, Belarusian).


                  Well, now it’s clear.
                  1. Ataturk
                    +1
                    19 September 2012 12: 47
                    Quote: Kamilla
                    Well, now it’s clear.


                    Read this news. Damn they went nuts with everything
                    http://lenta.ru/news/2012/09/19/hebdo/
                    1. tekinoral
                      +1
                      19 September 2012 13: 00
                      these soldiers were without weapons, all the newcomers had just finished training
                    2. Kamilla
                      +2
                      19 September 2012 13: 07
                      Quote: Ataturk
                      Read this news. Damn they went nuts with everything



                      The publication of the cartoons in Charlie Hebdo occurs against the backdrop of unrest in Muslim countries in Africa, the Middle East and Asia, caused by the release of the amateur American film “The Innocence of Muslims.” The film, whose creator was previously convicted fraudster, tells an alternative version of the life of the Prophet Muhammad. In particular, as Le Figaro reports, there were plans to protest against the tape on Saturday in France, but the prime minister had already announced his refusal to sanction the action.

                      Charlie Hebdo has previously published cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad on several occasions. In November 2011, the announcement of an issue dedicated to the Arab Spring and the revolution in Tunisia led to the arson of the editorial building.

                      where is the world going...scammers are making a film about prophets...(((
                      1. Ataturk
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 13: 10
                        Quote: Kamilla
                        where is the world going...scammers are making a film about prophets...(((


                        Along the way, the French haven’t received a star for a long time. They forgot that their gender population is Muslim from the same Tunisia and Lebanon.
                  2. Bismark
                    +2
                    19 September 2012 13: 07
                    And what do you understand?
            2. Ataturk
              +2
              19 September 2012 12: 07
              Quote: Bismark
              Hello Ataturk

              Good afternoon, Bismarck.

              Quote: Bismark
              I will also support the locomotive

              You have the right to support whomever you see fit. I respect your choice. It is your right.

              Quote: Bismark
              When there was an earthquake in Turkey recently, it was mostly Kurdish settlements that were affected. The Turkish Ministry of Emergency Situations was not in a hurry to get there


              As Ata Turk said, everyone who lives in Turkey is a Turk. As for my country, whether he is Kurdish or Armenian. We help everyone. Your information is not correct.

            3. tekinoral
              0
              19 September 2012 12: 12
              these houses are built for them, so don’t
        2. +6
          19 September 2012 11: 20
          Greetings Omar. Well, in this case, I cannot objectively judge who is right. I just treat both Armenians and Azerbaijanis equally well. And what’s going on there now is somewhat unclear to me. You understand perfectly well that I will not judge or shield anyone without fully understanding this. But as for the Kurds, I know firsthand that not all of them live well in Turkey. My father told me that when he was on vacation in Turkey, he saw that the Kurds were practically living in chicken coops. And I perfectly understand why they are trying to resist the government and support them.
          1. Ataturk
            +1
            19 September 2012 11: 36
            Quote: Steam Train
            I just treat both Armenians and Azerbaijanis equally well.

            And you are doing the right thing!!! Peace to you and your home. I’m not saying that all ARMENIANS are bastards, just like all Azerbaijanis are gold. The issue is politics.

            Quote: Steam Train
            You understand perfectly well that I will not judge or shield anyone without fully understanding this.

            That's right, you should always do this. You need to learn it thoroughly, analyze it, and then draw conclusions.

            Quote: Steam Train
            But as for the Kurds, I know firsthand that not all of them live well in Turkey.

            Just google the name Ibrahim Tatlysyas, if you want I’ll show you a list of what advantages the Kurds have, even though the Turks do not have these advantages at home.

            Quote: Steam Train
            And I perfectly understand why they are trying to resist the government and support them.

            They don't live in chicken coops. Your father vacationed either in Izmir or Antalya, and Kurds don’t live there. Kurds live in the eastern part where there are mountains, the border with Armenia and Iran and northern Iraq.
          2. Yarbay
            +2
            19 September 2012 11: 42
            Quote: Steam Train
            . My father told me that when he was on vacation in Turkey, he saw that the Kurds were practically living in chicken coops

            I don’t agree here, but on the border with Iraq and Syria, where Kurds live compactly, the economic situation is worse than in those areas where there is a tourism business or manufacturing enterprises!!
            These are mostly rural areas!
            And for example, in Trabzon, in Erzurum or in Diyarbakir itself, the life of a Kurd is no different from the life of a Turk!!
            And I emphasize that where the economic situation is bad, the Turks are in poverty!
            1. +1
              19 September 2012 16: 20
              The question is not about the property component or wealth - although they also matter. The question is in anthropology.

              Communities, tribes, peoples are created, first of all, for self-defense from external threats. The more united the community and the larger it is, the easier it is to defend itself. In this case, the community is large enough to feel independent - it has traditions, language, culture - but feels dependent on the dominant communities in the regions. Accordingly - the war of independence.

              The Turks do not have what the Kurds need. And the Kurds need to know that they are not in a potentially subordinate minority position
          3. Ataturk
            +2
            19 September 2012 11: 59
            Zhen, let me give you one example, show you the facts and you yourself think about what and how. Kurds, Talysh and Lezgins live in Azerbaijan and all that. In our country it is considered bad manners to ask what your nationality is, usually they tell you your place of birth. For example, Azerbaijanis who were born in Armenia - we call them Yeraz, those who are in Georgia, Grazy, there are also Nakhchivans, but they don’t ask us directly, this is considered rude in our country and I am happy with it. For example, Kurds from Azerbaijan and Kurds from Iraq, the difference is like land and air. Our people consider themselves Azerbaijanis, when you ask them in another country what your nationality is, they will tell you Azerbaijani and not Eraz or Graz. And so, we have quite a few people at the top who are KURDS, believe me. Any Azerbaijani will tell you this. But they don't say this openly. Ethics.

            Now look, remember what I wrote about traitors. I see this article.



            The first thing that happened was I smiled. The second thing that happened, I said one word, please forgive me, from the admins to the users, I said, they ZIZDYAT and do not blush. In Azerbaijan, I can argue with anyone that it is the Kurds who live the best! I can bet on an apartment and a car to boot, BUT then I thought, I wonder who the author is. And what do I see? ))))))))))))))))))



            I didn’t read this article, I’m stuck!!!

            Aren't you bastards? Aren't they scoundrels? An Armenian is worried about the Kurds in Azerbaijan, this is the same as about the Lezgins. But this comrade did not take into account
            one thing, not all Azerbaijanis trade in Moscow, but they also surf the Internet and tell everyone the truth. And this scoundrel once again made himself look like a jerk!!!!

            Maybe we can read what the common people think about them about the Kurds? I do not address these words to my Kurds. Ours are different.

        3. +1
          19 September 2012 15: 46
          It is worth adding - more than 200 years. Kurdistan as a province was allocated in the mid-19th century. It was not an independent state.
      4. Yarbay
        +2
        19 September 2012 11: 20
        Quote: Steam Train
        Why do you consider everyone who disagrees with the Turkish government and fights it to be a terrorist? But I consider them freedom fighters.

        Hello Eugene!
        If the question is about giving the Kurds political and other rights!
        There is a party in the Turkish parliament that is represented by Kurds!
        If I'm not mistaken, one of the most successful leaders of Turkey was Turgut Ozal, he was a Kurd!!
        Please don’t think that all Kurds are against the Turks, this is not true!
        There are Kurdish heroes of Turkey and there are many of them!
        And this group carries out terrorist activities from which the Kurds also suffer!!
        Explosions in cafes in restaurants, murders of government officials - isn’t this terrorism??
        Or do we, like the Amers, already have double standards! If our friend is the state, then who are the terrorists against it, and if the enemy, then who are the rebels and freedom fighters against it??
        1. Ataturk
          +1
          19 September 2012 11: 46
          Quote: Yarbay
          Explosions in cafes in restaurants, murders of government officials - isn’t this terrorism??


          They are the children of killers. Killers of civilians. Guess Alibek 3 times who their close bros are?))))))))))))))) Who supports them?)))))))))))
          1. tekinoral
            0
            19 September 2012 11: 48
            not only bros, there are a lot of Armenians in the PKK itself
          2. Yarbay
            +3
            19 September 2012 11: 52
            Quote: Ataturk
            They are the children of killers. Killers of civilians. Guess Alibek 3 times who their close bros are?)))))))))))))))) Who supports them?)))))))

            Yes I know!!
            The founder of the terrorist group ASALA, Hakob Hakobyan, was one of the field commanders of these terrorists!
            1. Ataturk
              +2
              19 September 2012 12: 12
              Quote: Yarbay
              The founder of the terrorist group ASALA, Hakob Hakobyan, was one of the field commanders of these terrorists!


              Because of one nation, pay attention how many problems arise?
              I don’t know where God is looking!
              1. Neutral
                -3
                19 September 2012 12: 48
                The fact is that today Azerbaijan is ruled by Kurds. They are in all key positions. Many of them imitate Azerbaijanis, but today their ethnicity has been irrefutably proven. Thus, the Aliyevs themselves are Kurds, which is even recorded in the Encyclopedia of Soviet Kurds. But if the Kurdish origin of the Aliyev clan is known to many, few knew that the Kurds are the most powerful in this republic, the head of the presidential administration of Azerbaijan, Ramiz Mehdiyev, the all-powerful head of the president’s personal security, Beylar Eyyubov, the president of the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan, Rovnag Abdullayev, the Minister of Emergency Situations, Kamaletdin Heydarov, the owner of the largest holding in Azerbaijan “Azersun” Abdulbari Gezal, the mayor of Baku Hajibala Abutalibov, the head of the state television and radio company Arif Alyshanov, the head of the Nakhijevan autonomy Vasif Talibov and others. In the middle management of Azerbaijan, Kurds occupy key positions that influence all public life. Is it any wonder that Azerbaijan has not fulfilled the demands of Turkey and the United States for many years to recognize the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) operating in Turkey as a terrorist organization? How can a republic do this in which at least two major figures - Abdulbari Gezal and Rovnag Abdullayev - financially support the PKK? Finally, it would be naive to believe that Ilham Aliyev is not aware of the connections of these individuals with the PKK.
                1. Ataturk
                  +3
                  19 September 2012 13: 04
                  Quote: Neutral
                  The fact is that today Azerbaijan is ruled by Kurds

                  oh the star of my eyes. He showed up.
                  1. Yarbay
                    +3
                    19 September 2012 13: 10
                    Quote: Ataturk
                    oh the star of my eyes. appeared

                    La -killed)))))))))))))
                    what will you do without him?)))
                    1. Ataturk
                      +3
                      19 September 2012 13: 17
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      La -killed)))))))))))))
                      what will you do without him?)))


                      He is mine. Don't touch him! My life without him will be dark and black and white.
                      He keeps me on my toes. Everything he writes, I prove the opposite.
                      He doesn't even understand that every point he writes will be directed
                      against him, since I have more than enough facts to prove my
                      rightness. He doesn’t even understand that he writes for the benefit of Azerbaijanis and
                      plants noodles of his relatives. So the more he writes, the better.
                      for me. So, as in the poster



  4. 0
    19 September 2012 10: 40
    Only in a people's war do women have a place in battle. Good luck to them.
    1. tekinoral
      0
      19 September 2012 10: 56
      such a people's war that they even kill their own wounded
      1. 0
        19 September 2012 11: 19
        War is not a school of academic humanism. I understand your views on the Kurds, but if the struggle of the Kurdish people has been going on for 200 years, then why can the Turks neither win nor solve this problem by peaceful means, or do they not want the Kurds to be equal in the state of Turkey?
        1. tekinoral
          0
          19 September 2012 11: 49
          DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM ARE MINISTERS AND DEPUTIES?
          1. 0
            19 September 2012 13: 06
            http://youtu.be/2roQZq1uG0Y
            Quote: tekinoral
            Russian deputies meet with the PKK and hug, and now imagine the same thing happening in Russia, your deputies hug with terrorists in the Caucasus, what would you do?
        2. Yarbay
          +3
          19 September 2012 12: 08
          Quote: apro
          Kurds were equal in the state of Türkiye

          in what ways are the Kurds unequal??
          you posed the question incorrectly; a certain group of terrorists, with the support of other states, do not want peace in Turkey!!
        3. Ataturk
          +3
          19 September 2012 12: 14
          Quote: apro
          The struggle of the Kurdish people has been going on for 200 years

          What? It all started in 78!!! Not 200 years.
          1. tekinoral
            0
            19 September 2012 12: 18
            they started attacking in '84
            1. +1
              19 September 2012 13: 05
              There was another Kurdish uprising against Turkey since 23, 26,37. Against the Ottoman Empire, the participation of the Kurds on the side of Russia in the war of 1852-55. It was good for the Azerbaijanis for their state, the Russians fought for them, but the Kurds had no one.
              1. tekinoral
                0
                19 September 2012 13: 10
                In 1918, the Russians also fought for Azerbaijan when the Armenians exterminated them?
                1. Neutral
                  -3
                  19 September 2012 13: 12
                  Andranik Sasunsky hardly imagined that several years later, in the conditions of the collapse of the Caucasian Front, the leader of the First Armenian Squad would have to once again save the Caucasus from the Turkish invasion, this time, one might say, exclusively on his own. At the beginning of 1918, Turkish troops under the command of Lieutenant General Mehmed Wahib Pasha began large-scale operations in the Erzurum, Van and Primorsky directions: on January 30 they occupied Erzincan, on February 11 - Trebizond, on April 14 - they entered Batum without a fight and began to advance to Sukhum. Kare fell on April 25, Alexandropol on May 15. The division of General Andranik of Sasun was deprived of the opportunity to maneuver, because, while conducting heavy defensive battles in the Erzurum direction, it covered the retreat of hundreds of thousands of Armenian, Greek and Assyrian refugees who survived in 1915, over whom a terrible threat initially hung after the Russian retreat from Anatolia. The danger of the Turks capturing most of the Caucasus and repeating the genocide in Eastern Armenia seemed almost inevitable. However, on May 16–18, 1918, near the village of Vorontsovka, the troops of General Andranik of Sasun with incredible efforts held back the Ottoman troops and their henchmen. And although some enemy groups managed to break through and approach Tiflis within 20–25 km, the bulk of them were stopped and thrown back. Having seized the initiative from the enemy, the general is fighting in the Karaklis direction. In the Battle of Lori that unfolded on May 25–28, 1918, which in many ways turned out to be fateful not only for Armenia, but also for the Caucasus as a whole, Andranik of Sasunsky thwarted the general offensive of Turkish troops in the Dilijan direction, who were trying to reach Baku through Dilijan and advance to Dagestan and Chechnya . As a result of the defeat, the Turkish command was forced to give the order to abandon most of the mountainous Lori region.

                  At the beginning of June, the Armenian division entered Novo-Bayazet, then along the Selim Pass through Daralagyaz and Sharur to Nakhichevan. Soon Julfa and Bitlis were occupied. On June 14, Andranik issued an order, which noted that the troops were subordinate to the Central Russian Government, and Nakhichevan was declared an inseparable part of Russia. General Andranik Sasunsky also sent a telegram to the Extraordinary Commissioner for Caucasian Affairs and Chairman of the Baku Council of People's Commissars S. Shaumyan, in which he expressed his readiness to provide assistance to the Baku commune, which was defending itself from the offensive of Turkish troops.
                  1. tekinoral
                    0
                    19 September 2012 13: 16
                    Neutral. and what did he do in the Balkans? Also tell me for those who don’t know how many Rumelian Turks he exterminated
                    1. Neutral
                      -3
                      19 September 2012 13: 21
                      In 1907, at the IV Congress of the Dashnak Party, Andranik announced his resignation from the party due to disagreements that arose in the activities of the Dashnaks. In order to propose Andranik's candidacy in the Young Turk parliament in 1908, he was invited to Constantinople, but Andranik rejected the invitation, condemning the collaboration of the Dashnaktsakans with the Young Turks.
                      During the First World War, Andranik Sasunsky led large military units on the Russian-Turkish front. He was promoted to general in the Russian army and awarded the Cross of St. George. In 1912, he organized an entire company of Armenian volunteers, which became part of the Bulgarian army militia. Armenian soldiers showed heroism in the battles for the capture of the cities of Mastanli, Uzun, Merefete, Sharkey, Rodosto and others. Andranik participated in the defeat of the Turkish corps of General Yaver Pasha. The Bulgarian command highly appreciated the participation of the Armenian company in the first Balkan War. Chief of the militia, Major General Genev, Chief of Staff Dr. Vinkov and adjutant Captain Nikolov testified that “all members of this company can be proud of their brave activities. And Armenia must be sure that, having such sons who are capable of dying as pages for someone else’s cause, it will in the near future gain a happy and long freedom.” In addition, Andranik Ozanyan was awarded the highest awards in Greece, France and Bulgaria.
                      1. Yarbay
                        0
                        19 September 2012 13: 27
                        Quote: Neutral
                        Andranik Ozanyan was awarded the highest awards in Greece, France and Bulgaria.

                        June-September 1918 After the defeat from regular Turkish troops in the southern Caucasus, the activity of Armenian volunteer detachments, who fought on the side of Russia against Ottoman Turkey, sharply increases. In particular, in June 1918, Andronik’s gang (Andronik Ozanyan Torosi, 1865-1927, a Turkish citizen, in 1894-1896 joined the Armenian rebels, participated in sabotage in the Sasun mountains as part of terrorist detachments; during the Balkan War of 1912- 1913 fought against Turkey; during the First World War he fought against Turkey as part of the Russian army at the head of the 1st Armenian volunteer corps, committed sabotage from the north-west of Iran; in 1915 he fought on Lake Van and was one of the instigators massacres of Turkish Muslims; in 1917, the Russian high command awarded him the rank of major general) are sent through Julfa to Nakhchivan, destroying the civilian Azerbaijani population along the way.
                        July 17 1918 city
                        Andronik's bloody actions on the territory of Zangezur and Karabakh, where genocide and mass deportation of the Azerbaijani population were carried out, continued intermittently from the summer of 1918 to the autumn of 1919. In September 1918, units of the Caucasian Islamic Army forced Andronik's gangs to leave Shusha and Zangezur
                      2. Yarbay
                        +1
                        19 September 2012 13: 30
                        Quote: Neutral
                        Andranik Ozanyan was awarded the highest awards in Greece, France and Bulgaria.

                        and in order to save his own skin, who did he go between the legs of in Karachi??)))))
                        don't remember??
                        Let's ask Omar to stand up))))))
                        with photos)))
                      3. Ataturk
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 13: 39
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Let's ask Omar to stand up))))))
                        with photos)))


                        This is a disaster. I would remain silent out of shame through the earth
                        buried before writing about SOSUNSKY or whatever his name is.

                        They sewed his ear everywhere.
                        Like in the film, Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession. There's a quote there.
                        COMRADE TIMOFEEV WHERE THE WALL OF DELHI))))))))) SO I ASK
                        WHERE have the comrades gone?
                  2. Yarbay
                    +2
                    19 September 2012 13: 22
                    Quote: Neutral
                    Andranik Sasunsky

                    Andronik what?))))))))))
                    1. tekinoral
                      0
                      19 September 2012 13: 25
                      and how many civilians did you kill? Did the Russians really take part in the Balkan war?
                    2. Ataturk
                      +3
                      19 September 2012 13: 32
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Andronik what?))))))))))


                      Have you forgotten this circus dog without an ear?
                      That's right, he's Sasun!!!
                  3. Ataturk
                    +2
                    19 September 2012 13: 25
                    Quote: Neutral

                    Andranik Sasunsky hardly imagined that several years later, in the conditions of collapse
                    of the Caucasian Front, the leader of the First Armenian Squad will have to save again
                    from the Turkish invasion of the Caucasus, this time, one might say, exclusively by their own
                    forces.


                    DO NOT INSULT FORUM MEMBERS WITH THE WORDS OF THIS DOG!!! NOBODY HIM
                    THERE WILL BE NO READING EXCEPT FOR YOU!!! I ALSO FOUND SOMEONE TO QUOTE.

                    1. Yarbay
                      +1
                      19 September 2012 13: 32
                      Omar is he covering his ear like that?)))))))))))))))
                      1. Neutral
                        -2
                        19 September 2012 13: 35
                        Ask Omarushka to post at least one photo where he has no ear or where he is between his legs)))))))

                        Andranik of Sasun played a huge role in the defense of Zangezur, which turned out to be a small island in Transcaucasia, where the Turkish occupiers never managed to penetrate. During the fighting, almost 40% of the Turkish troops in the Caucasus were sent against Andranik in Zangezur. When the leaders of the newly formed Caucasian republics, in fear of the Turkish invasion in January 1918, turned to the Turkish government, expressing their readiness to sit down at the negotiating table, they heard in response that Turkey was not interested in their opinion, it only cared about what the general thought about this Andranik. Which was quite logical, since it was his troops that remained the main obstacle to the conquest of the Caucasus, and no one doubted the general’s inflexibility and his devotion to the idea of ​​Byzantineism.
                      2. Yarbay
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 13: 42
                        Quote: Neutral
                        Sasunsky played

                        Well, then the ear was still in place)))))))))))
                        or is it photoshop?))))
                      3. Ataturk
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 13: 43
                        Quote: Neutral
                        Ask Omarushka to post at least one photo where he doesn’t have an ear or where he’s between his legs



                        One coach created a football team that beat everyone, including the Brazilians,
                        and the Germans... They ask him:
                        - How did you do this?
                        - He put the Chechens in the attack - it’s difficult to fight them off,
                        into the Georgian midfield - it’s difficult to come to an agreement with them,
                        in defense of Azerbaijanis - you won’t get through until you pay,
                        and against an Armenian - even if you score a goal, you can’t prove it.

                        Tell me, I swear to my mother’s health and to God they didn’t cut his ear,
                        I will publicly ask for forgiveness from all Armenians!!! I give my word!!!!
                      4. Kamilla
                        +3
                        19 September 2012 13: 48
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Tell me I swear on my mother's health and God they didn't cut his ear


                        Omar.... impudence, second happiness, as they say... it is a historical fact that they cut the ear... and more or less conscientious Armenians admit this... bu isya podosh sifiatdi....
                      5. Ataturk
                        0
                        19 September 2012 13: 51
                        Quote: Kamilla
                        Omar.... impudence, second happiness, as they say... it is a historical fact that they cut the ear... and more or less conscientious Armenians admit this... bu isya podosh sifiatdi...


                        Kam, I'm a man of my word. If he swears, I respect all mothers, really
                        it’s a lie or a lie, I’ll keep my word and the rest is on his conscience.
                        If he says that I swear they didn’t cut me, I will ask all Armenians for forgiveness
                        for what has been said, I will not return to this topic again.

                        I want to see whether his mother is more valuable to him or Andronik. I swear to my mother I
                        I’ll ask him to apologize if he swears.
                      6. Neutral
                        -2
                        19 September 2012 13: 49
                        Lobster.
                        I swear, leave the rest of the idle chatter for yourself.
                        There is a photo, as you stated - post it.
                        No - rest, once again confirming the value of your word))))
                      7. Ataturk
                        +2
                        19 September 2012 14: 02
                        Quote: Neutral
                        Lobster.
                        I swear, leave the rest of the idle chatter for yourself.
                        There is a photo, as you stated - post it.
                        No - rest, once again confirming the value of your word))))


                        You are not a MAN David. You are deceiving people! You are the same DOG
                        like your one-eared Andronik!!! You are one of those dogs who wrote to me
                        nasty things about the Russians and now you’re dodging...

                        The Joke was true.
                        and against an Armenian - even if you score a goal, you can’t prove it.


                        DEAR FORUM MEMBERS, NOW YOU SEE WHAT WORDS ARE WORTH
                        ARMENIAN DAVID? HE LYES CONSTANTLY!!! You're a dog David!!!



                        and they're lying?
                      8. Bismark
                        +1
                        19 September 2012 15: 55
                        I understand that in any army there is only one punishment for betraying the oath...
                        And this looks more like an order, just like “Zhukov, the executioner of the Ukrainian people”, in the photo where he is older, he has two ears, and Wikipedia is silent about this.
                      9. Bismark
                        0
                        19 September 2012 15: 58
                        In my opinion, in any army there is one punishment for betraying the oath...
                        And this looks more like an order, just like “Zhukov, the executioner of the Ukrainian people”, in the photo where he is older, he has two ears, and Wikipedia is silent about this.
                      10. Ataturk
                        0
                        19 September 2012 16: 14
                        Quote: Bismark
                        And this looks more like an order

                        This is a historical fact that cannot be avoided.
                        Wikipedia is silent?)))))))))) and what else can they do? Look at his old photos, he hides his right ear everywhere. He always takes pictures so that the left side of his face is visible.
                      11. Kamilla
                        +3
                        19 September 2012 14: 06
                        Quote: Neutral
                        There is a photo, as you stated - post it


                        Well, just think about it...who would take pictures without an ear? especially... the lack of this ear... a constant reminder of betrayal... and how can this be left to the “glorious Armenian” descendants..?
                      12. Kamilla
                        +3
                        19 September 2012 13: 44
                        Quote: Neutral
                        Ask Omarushka to post at least one photo where he doesn’t have an ear or where he’s between his legs


                        Why are you going to deny that they didn’t cut out his ear?? and will you reach this level of impudence?
                      13. Ataturk
                        +3
                        19 September 2012 13: 40
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Omar is he covering his ear like that?))))))))


                        Well, yes, in those years there was no PHOTOSHOP))))))))))))))))))whahahaha
              2. Yarbay
                +1
                19 September 2012 14: 52
                Quote: apro
                It’s good for the Azerbaijanis for their state, the Russians fought for them, but the Kurds have no one

                When?
                Our soldiers fought for us under the leadership of generals Mehmandarov, Shikhlinskoko, Sulkivich!
                And also the Caucasian Islamic Corps of General Nuri Pasha, who, thanks to his timely approach, saved thousands of Azerbaijanis from the massacre of the Armenian Dashnaks!
  5. tekinoral
    0
    19 September 2012 10: 50
    [media=rru=inbox&wlexpid=D3452077A6A74EDAB8492CE67C4440BC&wlrefapp=2#n=148777006
    6&rru=inbox&fid=1&fav=1&mid=83e17b08-0225-11e2-af58-00237de3a2a2]
  6. tekinoral
    +2
    19 September 2012 10: 52
    http://youtu.be/qQifaJWWrrY
  7. tekinoral
    +1
    19 September 2012 12: 03
    http://youtu.be/2roQZq1uG0Y
    Kurdish deputies meet with the PKK and hug, and now imagine the same thing happening in Russia, your deputies hug with terrorists in the Caucasus, what would you do?
  8. tekinoral
    +1
    19 September 2012 12: 35
    [media=http://sn125w.snt125.mail.live.com/default.aspx?rru=inbox&wlexpid=D345207
    7A6A74EDAB8492CE67C4440BC]

    that's how Muslims are
    http://youtu.be/iiuMjIWc39U
    1. Ataturk
      +3
      19 September 2012 13: 02
      Quote: tekinoral
      that's how Muslims are
      http://youtu.be/iiuMjIWc39U


      They eat pork. More precisely a boar

  9. wolverine7778
    +3
    19 September 2012 13: 22
    And their pants are fashionable, with sagging in the fly. All feminists to practice in Kurdistan..!! laughing
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      19 September 2012 13: 34
      Quote: wolverine7778

      And their pants are fashionable, with sagging in the fly. All feminists to practice in Kurdistan..!

      Good idea))) but after practice you will have to eliminate it)))
      So let them sit at home)))
      1. Kamilla
        +4
        19 September 2012 14: 02
        Quote: Yarbay
        So let them sit at home)))


        in my opinion, they all should be at home... it’s not a woman’s business...
    2. Ataturk
      +3
      19 September 2012 13: 34
      Quote: wolverine7778

      And their pants are fashionable, with sagging in the fly. All feminists to practice in Kurdistan..!!


      Plus for you))))))))))) hahaha
  10. Odessa
    +5
    19 September 2012 13: 46
    Related news: Turkey: Kurdish militants fired at a military convoy: 7 soldiers were killed, more than 50 were injured.
    In southeastern Turkey, new clashes occurred between military personnel and militants of the Kurdistan Workers' Party. Sources in the Turkish security services report that in the province of Bingol, separatists fired grenade launchers and automatic weapons at a convoy of military vehicles. One bus burned down.

    As a result of the armed clash, 7 Turkish army soldiers were killed and more than 50 were injured of varying degrees of severity.

    Security forces are conducting an operation to search for and eliminate Kurdish militants involved in the attack.
  11. 0
    19 September 2012 14: 22
    From the point of view of the small-shaven people, “we don’t have eternal friends, we have eternal interests,” in the conflict in Syria, I give preference to the Kurds. soldier
    1. Green 413-1685
      -2
      19 September 2012 15: 41
      Yes. And between Az and Armenians-Armenians. And then the Russian site was turned into a platform by all sorts of almost-Turks, who killed 90 Russians in their country, and now they sing like nightingales here. They are like a demonstration exhibit of Central Asian vile deceit and hypocrisy.
      1. Kamilla
        0
        19 September 2012 15: 53
        oooh...another troll has appeared((listen almost Slavic...if it’s convenient for you to think that we killed...continue...I personally feel purple, in your opinion...and my compatriots, I think too.. ... "vile deceit and hypocrisy" ... wow ..... did you think for a long time?
        1. Ataturk
          +1
          19 September 2012 15: 58
          Quote: Kamilla

          oooh...another troll has appeared


          Kama like these or kiss or spit, while showing the multiplication table and saying 2 by 2 is 4, they will still say their thing. There is a Christian factor, plus the fact that we are Turks. So everything is ok) Whoever is with us is already with us without all this. They already know.

          Here I wrote everything on the topic. I don't respect Kurdish terrorists. Why? I also explained it step by step, and if after that they don’t understand, the Kurdish flag is in their hands.

          So don’t let them write nonsense that I’m going off topic!!!

          When he writes that we killed Russians, of course he is lying, but he will remain silent about January 90.
        2. Green 413-1685
          -2
          19 September 2012 16: 04
          Why are you answering purple then? Does it really hurt your eyes? And about how indifferent you and your compatriots are to our opinion, it’s especially interesting to read on the Russian site.
          1. Ataturk
            0
            19 September 2012 16: 15
            Quote: Green 413-1685
            It’s especially interesting to read on the Russian site.

            You are not the WHOLE Russian site!!!!
            1. Green 413-1685
              -3
              19 September 2012 16: 22
              My opinion is shared by the overwhelming majority in Russia. Actually, after what you did in the nineties, it cannot be otherwise.
          2. Kamilla
            +1
            19 September 2012 16: 17
            I’m with you, green troll, you didn’t switch...write as much as you want...and don’t forget to submit documents if you find any... faithful Armenian henchman.
            1. Green 413-1685
              -3
              19 September 2012 16: 19
              Let's make you laugh. Armenians you in real b.d. pulled, so now you are fighting in a virtual war. And, well, you also kill sleeping people with axes, that’s dashing. in horseman style.
  12. FIMUK
    +1
    19 September 2012 17: 09
    Yes, somehow it doesn’t work out very well with the Turks, no matter what, they are not comrades to the Russians *)) The faith is not the same, the allies are not the same, the geopolitical interests are different.
    Oh, I found a point of contact in the Moscow bazaar *)) everything seems to be historically correct there - “Banabaki” trade, “Ivan” buy.
    In every country, the fact is true: ours are partisans in the forest, strangers are terrorists in the forest.
    The question is how to remain human? pursuing the interests of statehood, independence, etc. We can conclude that this issue is not and was not of interest to either side of the conflict.
    Conclusion there are no right and wrong - there are winners and losers, so it was and will be.
    S
    Turks go home*)) along with Kurds, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, etc.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"