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Louis-Nicolas Davout. Remaining undefeated

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Louis-Nicolas Davout. Remaining undefeated
Dick de Loneley. Davout at the Battle of Auerstedt


Article Louis-Nicolas Davout. Invincible Marshal Bonaparte we ended with an account of the events of 1805.

The next year was marked by the entry into the war of Prussia, which was defeated in two battles that took place on the same day.

On October 14, 1806, Napoleon won a victory at Jena, but another battle nevertheless became decisive, in which Davout was able to defeat the main army of the Prussians, twice the number of his corps.

Battle of Auerstedt


In the 1806 campaign, Napoleon was mistaken in thinking of meeting the main enemy army at Jena. But on October 14, here the emperor defeated only the corps of Prince Hohenlohe. Davout, acting in conjunction with Bernadotte's corps, had only to go to the rear of the Prussians.

In fact, at Auerstedt (60 km north of Jena), having only 29 thousand soldiers and 46 cannons, he was forced to engage alone with the Prussian army of 50 thousand (in some sources - 60 thousand) people with 230 guns. King Frederick William III was also here.

Bernadotte did not help Davout, for which he was then almost sent to court.

It is believed that the future king of Sweden was saved then only by the fact that he was married to Napoleon's former bride, Desiree Clari (whose older sister, in addition, was also the wife of Joseph Bonaparte).

But back to the Battle of Auerstedt.

The first to enter the battle was the Guden division, which repulsed the attacks of the Prussian dragoons near the village of Hassenhausen. Later, in one of the attacks on this village, the Prussian commander-in-chief, Duke Karl Wilhelm of Braunschweig, was mortally wounded (in this battle, Prince William of Orange, the commander of one of the divisions on the right flank of the Prussians, was also wounded and captured). After that, the king himself took command of the Prussian army, and this was not an equivalent replacement.

Having repulsed the attacks of the Prussians, Davout himself went on the offensive. French troops managed to bypass the left flank of the Prussian army, which eventually began to retreat.

At the disposal of Friedrich Wilhelm were significant reserves - 14 infantry battalions, 5 cavalry squadrons and 3 artillery batteries. However, the king of Prussia did not dare to bring them into battle, as he thought that he was dealing with the entire army of Bonaparte.

The Prussians in this battle lost about 10 thousand soldiers killed and wounded, about three thousand were taken prisoner. The French also captured 115 artillery pieces.

French losses were also quite large - about 7 thousand killed and wounded. This victory over the superior forces of the enemy is undoubtedly one of the most outstanding in the world. stories... The fifth bulletin of the Grand Army spoke of the fearlessness of Davout's "miraculous" corps, as well as the "extraordinary courage and fortitude of character" of its commander. Bonaparte himself recognized Davout's leadership skills. In a letter to Murat, for example, he called the battle of Auerstedt "an excellent battle."

After this victory, Davout received the title of Duke of Auerstedt. It was then, by the way, that he became widely popular in the army. And the division commanders of Davout's III corps (Guden, Friant and Moran) received the nickname "immortals."

Davout in the 1807 campaign


During the Battle of Preussisch-Eylau, Moran's division, which was part of the Davout corps, repulsed the attack of the soldiers of General DS Dokhturov, who had gone to the headquarters of the French emperor. After the defeat of Augereau's corps, shot by Russian artillery, the situation was so serious that Davout, usually calm and not prone to pathos, turned to his troops with the words:

"Brave men will find a glorious death here, and cowards will go to the deserts of Siberia!"

Davout also distinguished himself in the battle of Friedland.

"Proconsul of Poland"


After the conclusion of the Tilsit Peace Treaty, Davout became Governor General of the Duchy of Warsaw created by Napoleon. It is curious that in Warsaw he had a favorite, outwardly similar to his wife. She even appeared with him at official events, portraying his legal wife.

Davout did not hesitate to call the Polish government stupid and wrote to the emperor:

“I must not hide from Your Majesty that this government has neither the means, nor the authority, nor the will. It does not want to do anything without consulting the Cabinet of Ministers of the King of Saxony and is not responsible for anything. "

And next:

“It is difficult to imagine the state of disorganization in this country. Not only parliament, but even simple commissions are not subordinate to anyone. Arbitrariness prevails. "

And finally:

"I will do everything I can to keep my patience, stay cool ... this is absolutely necessary in a country where nothing is organized and where nothing is likely to be organized."

In the end, Davout had to place Polish officials under the total control of the French military authorities.

As a result, rumors began to spread that Davout did not intend to confine himself to the post of governor-general, but was going to become the king of Poland. And the marshal's ill-wishers brought these rumors to Napoleon. Perhaps this was one of the reasons that in the fall of 1808 Davout was recalled to Paris.

Davout in the 1809 campaign


In March 1809, Davout was assigned to the army operating against Austria, where at first he was subordinate to Berthier. Relations between the marshals did not work out, and Napoleon, who arrived at the troops, took the side of Davout, reprimanding Berthier. These marshals remained enemies for the rest of their lives.

On April 19, at the Battle of Tann, Davout forced one of the corps of Archduke Charles to retreat.

The troops subordinate to Davout showed themselves well in the battle of Eckmühl (April 21-22): fighting the superior forces of the Austrians, they held out until the main forces approached. Later, Davout received from Napoleon the title of Prince of Eckmühl (becoming one of the three marshals who had the titles of both duke and prince).

After the destruction of the pontoon bridge during the Battle of Aspern-Esling, Davout was able to organize a small boat flotillacarrying out transportation across the Danube.
In the general battle at Wagram (July 5-6), Davout's units were on the right flank. Having held positions and given the opportunity to strike at MacDonald's reserve corps, Davout himself went into the rear of the left wing of the Austrian army. In this battle, a horse standing next to the marshal was killed.

Davout in Germany


After the end of this war, Davout was appointed commander of the French units in Germany and the governor of the Hanseatic cities. The strict control over the implementation of the continental blockade of Britain aroused the discontent of the local population, and Davout himself received the nickname “Marshall Wuth” in Germany, and then even “Robespierre of Hamburg”.

By the way, a clear hint of Davout can be seen in the fantasy film "The Brothers Grimm" (2005), which takes place in Germany occupied by Napoleon's troops. One of the negative characters in it is a certain French general Delatomb, a pedant and lover of order. Fighting against evil spirits and charlatans, he acts very decisively and quite in the spirit of Davout.

There is even a parallel with the Warsaw pseudo-spouse of this marshal, however, in her role suddenly appeared some kind of sugary homosexual adjutant:


Shot from the film "The Brothers Grimm"

It's even interesting: did the writers accidentally succeed in it, and they themselves did not understand what they did? Or did one of the producers of this film dislike Napoleon and his marshals so much?

1812



V. Vereshchagin. Marshal Davout at the Miracle Monastery of the Moscow Kremlin

At the beginning of the war with Russia, Davout's corps was the strongest and most numerous in the Great Army - from 69 to 72 thousand people.

Davout was subordinate to the Westphalian king Jerome Bonaparte and had to act against the army of P. Bagration. His corps began to cross the Neman on 23 June.

Napoleon's brother did not live up to the emperor's hopes, largely because of his slowness, the 2nd Russian army retreated from the borders in order. And soon "King Erema" (as Jerome was called in Russia) was removed from command.

Davout's relationship with another king, the one of Naples, was no better.

After the artillery battery of Davout's corps refused to support with fire the crossing of Murat's cavalry across the Osma River (a tributary of the Dnieper), it almost came to a duel. Murat and Ney later responded with "courtesy for courtesy", not coming to the aid of Guden's division in the battle at Valutina Gora on August 7 (19).

As a result, although Davout did not allow Bagration to go to the connection with Barclay de Tolly through Mogilev, the Russians were able to connect at Smolensk.

In the Battle of Borodino, Davout received a concussion and was forced to withdraw from the battle.

When retreating from Moscow, the remnants of Davout's corps marched in the rearguard. Near Vyazma, he almost fell into encirclement, but units of Eugene Beauharnais and Jozef Poniatowski came to the rescue. Then the command of the rearguard passed to her. In the battles near Krasny (November 15-18) Davout managed to withdraw most of his soldiers. True, he had to abandon the artillery, the baggage train, and valuable topographic maps. At the same time, as it is assumed, he lost the marshal's baton.


Supposed rod of Marshal Davout. Moscow. Museum of the Patriotic War of 1812

Ney, who found himself in an even more difficult situation, later accused Davout of deliberately refusing to help him. However, it is unlikely that Davout in that situation could provide real support to Ney's parts.

After the emperor's departure, a council of war was held in the Prussian city of Gumbinen, at which Murat suddenly spoke out sharply against the absent Napoleon, saying:

“You cannot serve a madman! Because of him, we cannot be saved; no European prince believes any more either his words or his treaties! If I had accepted the offer of the British, I would have been as great a sovereign as the Austrian emperor or the Prussian king. "

Davout quite reasonably objected to him:

"The King of Prussia, the Emperor of Austria are sovereigns by the grace of God, and you, if you are a king, then only by the grace of Napoleon and the shed French blood."

Davout in Hamburg


In 1813, Napoleon made another mistake, sending Davout to a secondary direction - to command the troops on the Lower Elbe.

On February 24, 1813, an anti-French uprising began in Hamburg. On March 12, 1813, General Saint-Cyr withdrew his troops from the city. Napoleon instructed Davout to regain control of the strategically important city, which he did by reoccupying it on May 31st. At the same time, he asked Napoleon to refrain from excessive punishment of the townspeople, offering to limit themselves to fines.

Meanwhile, the marshals who remained with Napoleon acted unsuccessfully in the absence of the emperor. On the way to Berlin, first Oudinot was defeated, and then Ney. In a battle near the Kauzbach River, MacDonald was defeated. And this partially devalued the victories won then by Bonaparte.

Davout was then ordered to hand over his troops to General D. Vandamm. In return, he received the XIII Corps, which consisted mainly of recruits.

After the defeat of Napoleon at the Battle of Leipzig and the evacuation of French troops from Germany, Davout decided to defend Hamburg. As always, he approached this matter seriously and thoroughly, ordering all the inhabitants of Hamburg, who had no food supplies for 9 months, to leave the city.

In total, Davout's corps at that time numbered about 42 thousand soldiers and officers, however, 8 thousand of them were in hospitals. The number of guns was quite significant - 450.

In December 1813, parts of L. Bennigsen approached Hamburg, and the siege of the city began, which was never taken. Even with the news of Napoleon's abdication, which Davout received on April 14, 1814, he refused to surrender the city, as he feared another military trick.

Only after the arrival of his cousin, having made sure of the truth of the news of the fall of Bonaparte's empire, he ordered to open the gate.

Minister of War "Hundred Days"


The marshal, who remained personally undefeated, refused to take the oath to Louis XVIII and was ordered to retire to his estate of Savigny-sur-Orge, where he remained until Napoleon's disembarkation in the Bay of Juan (March 1, 1815).

Appearing to Bonaparte, Davout asked for an appointment to the army, but was forced to act as Minister of War - from March 20 to July 8, 1815. In this post, he actually re-formed the imperial army. But the forces of the parties were too unequal, and Napoleon had no chance of retaining the throne - even in the event of a victory at Waterloo.

After the second abdication of Napoleon, Davout managed on July 3 to conclude with Wellington and Blucher the so-called Paris Convention of 18 points - an agreement on the cessation of hostilities in exchange for an amnesty for all those who supported the Emperor Napoleon. Otherwise, he threatened to continue the war.

Clause 12 of the Convention guaranteed amnesty to all supporters of Napoleon. At the same time, according to the 15th paragraph, all doubts that arose were to be interpreted in favor of the accused.

Davout's reputation as a military leader and commander was impeccable, and the victors did not want to tempt fate in a new battle. They also did not want to share their glory with the Russians, whose army was already marching towards France.

On the other hand, Blucher and Wellington understood that massive repression by the Bourbons would tarnish their reputation as well. It is one thing to go down in history as the people who defeated the great commander Napoleon in a regular field battle. And it is quite another to be involved in numerous arrests and executions of people, some of whom were very famous and even popular in Europe. Therefore, they went to sign these agreements.

The Bourbons did not intend to scrupulously perform them, which was a great disappointment for Davout. However, there was nothing he could do about it.

In addition, the treaty signed by him still served as a serious constraint for Louis XVIII and his entourage, not allowing them to develop in full force.

The last years of Davout's life


After the return of Louis XVIII, Davout again went to his estate.

The Loire army created by him was disbanded by Marshal MacDonald, who remained loyal to the Bourbons.

To the new Minister of War - Saint-Cyr, Davout wrote a letter with a request to consider himself responsible for supporting Bonaparte, and not his subordinates.

He also acted as a witness for the defense at the trial of Marshal Ney - and this was the last straw: Davout was stripped of all titles, titles and salaries, his portrait was removed from the "Hall of Marshals" in the Tuileries. Davout himself was then sent into exile in Louvier, where he lived under police supervision for 3 francs 50 centimes a day.

But why, unlike Ney, Davout got off with such a relatively mild punishment?

The fact is that after the abdication of Bonaparte, he did not swear allegiance to Louis XVIII. Therefore, they could not accuse him of perjury and treason. Davout's authority in France and the army was so high that the Bourbons simply did not dare to deal with him without a sentence.

And then, at the request of Marshal MacDonald, Louis XVIII on June 25, 1816, did allow Davout to return to his castle of Savigny.

A convenient occasion for royal favor was the wedding of the pretender to the throne - the Duke of Berry.

Then, on August 31, 1817, Davout was returned to the rank of marshal, and on February 11, 1819, he was even awarded the Order of St. Louis. Finally, on March 5 of the same year, he received the peerage of France (along with Lefebvre, Jourdan, Monsey and Suchet). The Bourbons, unpopular among the people, sent an unambiguous signal to society: accepting the favors of the Bourbons, the "iron marshal" Davout would recognize the power of the returned Louis XVIII. And therefore, the rest of Bonaparte's supporters should also come to terms with the restoration of this dynasty.

During this period, Davout was really no longer up to the fight.

During this time, he developed serious health problems, aggravated by the death of his 16-year-old daughter Josephine. Davout's cause of death is usually called tuberculosis, but there is reason to believe that he still died from some kind of acutely developed vascular disease, possibly from a stroke.

On May 21, 1823, the marshal was found lying on the floor of his house; on June 1, he died. At this time he was only 53 years old. This marshal was buried in the Pere Lachaise cemetery.

The true attitude of the Bourbons to this marshal is evidenced by the fact that none of the officials came to his funeral. Moreover, former colleagues and veterans of the Napoleonic Wars were urged not to attend the farewell ceremony. However, many have ignored this prohibition.

In 1853, 30 years after the death of Aimé Louis, the only surviving son of this marshal, the Davout clan was cut short in the male line. By order of Napoleon III, who was then in power, on September 17, 1864, the title of Duke of Auerstedt passed to Davout's nephew, the son of his brother Charles.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2021 06: 10
    +9
    Davout's relationship with another king, the one of Naples, was no better.
    Relations between Davout and kings of all stripes did not work out.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 12 November 2021 07: 23
      +11
      Quote: parusnik
      Davout's relationship with another king, the one of Naples, was no better.
      Relations between Davout and kings of all stripes did not work out.

      He apparently did not want to exchange for "such a trifle." A hereditary nobleman, supporting the revolution, he went through all the steps of his career from revolutionary France to imperial France! He also served the king before the revolution, and apparently did not perceive the last Bourbons.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 12 November 2021 09: 06
      +10
      What would all these kings be worth without such generals as Davout. smile

      1. vladcub
        vladcub 12 November 2021 16: 22
        +4
        That's right. Only I would clarify: a marshal is certainly good, but ANY marshal without soldiers is zero without a wand
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 12 November 2021 15: 51
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      Davout's relationship with another king, the one of Naples, was no better.
      Relations between Davout and kings of all stripes did not work out.

      Everything was fine with him only with the emperor
  2. Cartalon
    Cartalon 12 November 2021 06: 38
    +8
    Thank you, famous Davout, for serving so many benefits to Russia!
    From the notes of General Ermolov))
  3. depressant
    depressant 12 November 2021 09: 06
    +4
    Good morning, colleagues! )))
    A lot of mental strength had to be put into realizing - "winter is coming"! And finally she gave a sign - she spread out with a white, pure snowball!
    So, oh Davout.
    How did Davout get acquainted with Napoleon? Eh, protection is always needed. And for this you need to like, make friends with someone influential, making a choice often completely unconsciously. And, I must say, Napoleon's marshals had this, among other merits.
    Returning to Ravière after leaving the army, Davout studied military literature for 9 months - he was a smart guy! And then his education on the part of the war put pressure on him so that he was forced to return to the army. And there, participating in the defense of Kehl under the command of Moreau, he became friends with General Desay, whose talents, according to contemporaries, Napoleon had always genuinely admired. And thanks to the mediation of Deset, on March 22, 1798, a meeting took place in Paris between General Napoleon Bonaparte, already famous thanks to the Italian company, and General Davout, almost unknown to anyone. According to Bourienne, who was hostile to Davout (and Bourienne was a secretary and friend of Napoleon), at the first meeting, Davout impressed Napoleon as a "disgusting animal." But in the clash of opinions, Deset won. His recommendation interrupted Burien's dislike, and Napoleon took the skilled cavalry officer Davout with him to Egypt. That's how their cooperation began)))
  4. north 2
    north 2 12 November 2021 09: 16
    -2
    Of course, Davout is a genuine talent, not losing the battle. But what such, they say, knights, serving Napoleon, served the idea of ​​freedom generated by the French Revolution, one can argue about this. After all, what are these ideas of freedom, if such people as Davout were brought to the forefront of the era by the war not defending freedom of France, but walking with Napoleon to deprive Europe of honor, liberty and peace. Why did Davout come to Russia? Defend the ideas of freedom generated by the French Revolution?
    But among the versatility of Davout's military talent, it is necessary to highlight the ability to foresee and not exclude possible prospects for a military campaign. That is why, on the orders of Davout, when attacking Russia through the present territory of Belarus, the French shot their own French soldiers for looting and plundering villages and peasant farms. No, not because of the knightly honor of the marauders he executed Davout, but because of his military leadership talent, Davout foresaw that along the same road along which the French army is now advancing, along the same road, the French army may have to flee with a bat from Russia, and then the French simply have nothing will eat, if advancing in Russia all the villages and towns are plundered. And this is exactly what happened, which is still called in France by the accursed word C est la Berezina.
    1. Ulrich
      Ulrich 12 November 2021 10: 55
      +3
      It's amazing what kind of garbage you can write in different branches. Straight talent .... Especially the passage about how Davout foresaw a retreat and therefore punished the marauders.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 12 November 2021 16: 07
      +4
      "that on the same road" Lyudmila Yakovlevna, here I do not agree: Npoleon and all his marshals were confident of success. Perhaps, then Davout thought: "I foresaw and prch", but this is an afterthought!
      Like Murat kicked up: "You can't serve a madman," and he hadn't seen a "madman" before?
  5. pin_code
    pin_code 12 November 2021 09: 45
    +6
    An excellent series of articles. Thanks to the author! And thanks to the commentator, for now
    e truth is born.
  6. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 12 November 2021 10: 43
    +4
    In some way Davout reminded Moltke (a characterization of Pikul in the novel "I Have the Honor"), a military "cracker" and "literary expert" who knows his craft very well.
    Cool cycle. That would be like this in Russia.
  7. Ulrich
    Ulrich 12 November 2021 10: 58
    -1
    The author, maybe you don't need gags all the same? From where is it known what the winners at Waterloo thought and also did not want to share glory with the Russians? All the more guessing about what would have been Napoleon's victory in the Belgian campaign.
    1. depressant
      depressant 12 November 2021 11: 49
      +4
      During the battle, Wellington is said to have muttered the same phrase throughout the day:
      "Lord, send me the night or ... send Blucher."
      And after the battle they heard the following phrase from him: "The Battle of Waterloo was won at the sports grounds of Eton."
      And since the Battle of Waterloo, as historians say, was "Napoleon's best defeat" and not Wellington's best victory, they prefer to call it the Battle of Mont Saint Jean in England.
      1. Ulrich
        Ulrich 12 November 2021 12: 05
        +2
        The phrase about "Night or Blucher" was first mentioned in the memoirs 40 years after Waterloo.
      2. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 12 November 2021 13: 13
        +4
        England prefer to call it the Battle of Mont Saint Jean.
        I have never heard. Here they call it Waterloo everywhere.

        Something like that.
        1. depressant
          depressant 12 November 2021 13: 38
          +2
          Well, apparently, these are the current British. Thought well and thought better wassat )))
          Indeed, why belittle yourself, when at an event you can cut down the grandmother, at the same time elevating yourself.

          Victor Agaev, Waterloo - Bonn

          Snipers are on the rooftops. The police are mounted, motorized and, just in case, military. There are helicopters in the sky. The Belgian town of Brenn-l'Alley has never seen such a stir. But there is nothing to be surprised at. Four European monarchs, a dozen princes, hundreds of politicians and deputies from the European Union and NATO, plus 200 thousand "mere mortals" gathered here to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo.


          But that's not all)))
          according to polls, most Europeans today have no idea who fought with whom on June 18, 1815. 28 percent of Britons, for example, know that the battle took place, but do not know that their compatriot Wellington won it, although 120 cities and towns from Canada to New Zealand bear his name. Likewise in Germany: few people remember the most important role in the battle of the Prussian Field Marshal Blucher.

          Little of. 80 percent of tourists visiting the battlefield are convinced that Napoleon won. For some reason, the official poster of Waterloo 2015 also suggests this idea: a solid brooding Napoleon and small, like toys, Wellington with Blucher.

          Everyone knows Napoleon! And I never heard that some madman declared himself Wellington wassat )))
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 12 November 2021 14: 01
            +7
            28 percent of Britons, for example, know there was a battle, but don't know their compatriot Wellington won it.
            Perhaps this is a question of the circle of friends, I have never met a single such unique person.
            Arthur Wellesley, among other things, is not forgotten by the British thanks to this dish. yes known as beef wellington. In addition, he introduced waterproof boots into fashion, which now, although they do in China made of rubber, but traditionally his name is called Wellington boots (wellies in conversation).

            most Europeans today have no idea who fought with whom
            Again, the question of sampling - Romanians and Albanians with Italian passports are, to put it mildly, not interesting. The French know.
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 14: 10
              +5
              Arthur Wellesley, among other things, is not forgotten by the British thanks to this yes dish, known as beef wellington /

              Is it tasty, Alexey? wink drinks
              The bomber was also named after the duke.
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 12 November 2021 14: 14
                +4
                the bomber was named after the duke.
                Two bombers yes

                Vickers Wellesley was also named after him.
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 14: 39
                  +2
                  Vickers Wellesley was also named after him.

                  It is intricate to have several surnames, titles! laughing
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 12 November 2021 15: 01
                    +2
                    No titles saved his statue on horseback (nicknamed Copenhagen), erected during his lifetime (!) From moving from central London to provincial Aldershot
                    Contemporaries considered her "ugly" belay Most of the bronzes are the melted cannons of the French, and Arthur Wellesley posed in person. Copenhagen, prada, by that time grunted and the horse-nameless understudy, which by the way was called by contemporaries "unethical."
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 19: 36
                      +2
                      Contemporaries considered her "ugly"

                      Alexey, and you write a simple article - "Their customs". What are the customs of modern Englishmen, and how they differ from us. Exactly modern, the moment of your move should be omitted ... what
                      I say right away - eat some poop from the dimwitted patriots, but smart ones will appreciate it ... True, they will be in the minority. request
                      But for me personally - it's interesting! hi
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 November 2021 14: 38
                        +1
                        What are the customs of modern Englishmen, and how they differ from us.
                        Very little, really. Houses are heated, dishes are washed in running water (or in a typewriter), they use a mixer laughing Therefore, there is nothing special to describe.
                        the moment of your move should be omitted
                        It was only in 2004.
              2. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 12 November 2021 14: 16
                +1
                Is it tasty, Alexey?
                Yes, but it's hard to cook - the beef is either raw or overcooked and tough. I prefer the salmon version (Scottish yes ) Like.
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 14: 40
                  +2
                  Yes, but it's hard to cook - the beef is either raw or overcooked and tough.

                  "Vika" writes that they are made from different meat. drinks But with beef, yes, it looks brutal! fellow
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 12 November 2021 14: 50
                    +2
                    made from different meat.
                    Authentic beef. This is how vegan happens wassat
    2. VLR
      12 November 2021 14: 38
      +6
      Bonaparte fought in that campaign until the first defeat - and it doesn't matter where it happened: at Waterloo, or at Antwerp, or at Brussels. He met then, in essence, only with the vanguard units of the new anti-French coalition. Exhausted by many years of wars, France would have been crushed by the "masses": the British, Prussians, Austrians, Russians - Napoleon's defeat followed by a second abdication was only a matter of time.
      As for the reluctance of Wellington and Blucher to share the glory of the winners - even with the Russians, even with the Austrians - it is obvious. Generals, they are, in general, very jealous guys. Suvorov and Kamensky Senior were jealous of each other for the time being. It was then that Suvorov left "sharply upward". Bagration and Barclay de Tolly. Kutuzov - against Barclay and really did not want Chichagov to catch Napoleon at the Berezina - in this case, it was the admiral who would become a contender for the title of the protagonist of the war.
      1. Ulrich
        Ulrich 12 November 2021 15: 51
        -2
        This is your speculation. Therefore, my remark that it is not necessary to write in the affirmative form what COULD happen.
        On the day of the battles at Linyi and Quatre Bras, it would have been enough for the Derlon corps to take part in the battle with the Prussians, and their defeat would probably be complete. And there already the preponderance of forces over Wellington and it is not known how this battle ended and just would take place where (on the Mont-Saint-Jean plateau Wellington stood because he knew that Blucher's army was going there). And this is 2 of the 4 main opponents. From where do you know how the allies would have done after receiving 1-2 defeat? Moreover, Napoleon had big plans for mobilization and it was still Napoleon and not Schwarzenbegr or Barclay.
        As for sharing the glory of the winner, too, your guesses and the example of Kutuzov from Berezina just do not vkassa, since there is a version of the "Golden Bridge" or just do that Kutuzov just missed Napoleon or thought that Chichagov and Wittgeinshein's forces were enough.
        1. depressant
          depressant 12 November 2021 16: 34
          +4
          From where do you know what the allies would do next

          Eh, colleague Ulrih ...
          Yes, it is not given to us to know. After so many years, there is no one to ask. Therefore, the assessment of any facts can be presented in the form of reasonable correct assumptions, which is not at all offensive for those who have long gone.
          On the contrary!
          The fact that we are talking about them is evidence that we remember them, they are not forgotten. Isn't that flattering for the departed? They listen to us in the next world and are proud of themselves.
          But our attacks on each other and even more so on the respected Author, it seems to me, is not a way to rise even among contemporaries. After all, you can simply say that there is another point of view, and present it with dignity.
          Probably my grid is out of date. Sad.
  8. Pane Kohanku
    Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 10: 59
    +6
    A few days before Jena and Auerstedt, the battle of Saafeld took place. Prince Ludwig Friedrich of Prussia commanded the Prussian troops there, the brave Lannes commanded the French. The prince misjudged the strength of the French - in the end, he was defeated and was killed by the French hussars.


    About Davout's rod. I read that he was captured by the rangers under the command of Karl Ivanovich Bistrom.
    Bistrom was buried in Yamburg (now Kingisepp), and the most unique gravestone monument in Russia has been erected for him. The general's rest is guarded by a bronze lion by Klodt ...

  9. depressant
    depressant 12 November 2021 11: 32
    +2
    Battle of Auestedt ...
    The Prussians in this battle lost about 10 thousand soldiers in killed and wounded, the French - 7 thousand.

    People as a consumable. Something like cartridges, cannonballs, ammunition. The only excuse for the generals is that they fought on a par with their soldiers. Kings, emperors are not excused by anything. Moreover, those who were not involved but signed up.
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 11: 41
      +6
      Kings, emperors are not excused by anything. Moreover, those who were not involved but signed up.

      After Jena-Auerstedt, the most intricate adventure awaited the Prussian queen Louise. In principle, she was one of the main supporters of the warmongers, like the Prince Ludwig Frederick of Prussia mentioned by me above.
      So, Bonaparte occupied Berlin. The queen and her family fled to Konigsberg, and then to Memel.
      Wikipedia: The only thing left to flee was to Memel, located in the far north of the country. In a severe frost and a blizzard, seriously ill Louise, with her children and service staff, set off on a journey along the Curonian Spit, which is practically impassable in winter. After three difficult days and cold nights, the travelers reached their destination.


      Well, and they met with Napoleon in Tilsit!


      Events severely crippled Louise - both physically and mentally. She died in 1810.
      1. depressant
        depressant 12 November 2021 12: 09
        +2
        Do you want to say that God marked the rogue? )))
        The ruling dynasties are like that. I would not particularly look for a person with humane inclinations among such ladies. Well, maybe when they did, it's only doubtful. To one degree or another, all were distinguished by their belligerence.
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 12: 51
          +3
          The ruling dynasties are like that. I would not particularly look for a person with humane inclinations among such ladies. Well, maybe when they did, it's only doubtful. To one degree or another, all were distinguished by their belligerence.

          In Germany, she was revered as a patriot and a martyr.
          1. depressant
            depressant 12 November 2021 13: 24
            +4
            These were the concepts of that time. Power was given from God through the anointing and blessing of the church patriarch of the corresponding religion.
            And then the atheists came wassat )))
          2. VLR
            12 November 2021 18: 58
            +3
            Yes, I was ready to "sacrifice myself." After a long private conversation with her, Napoleon is said to have said:
            "If the king of Prussia entered the room a little later, I would have to cede Magdeburg!"
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 19: 14
              0
              Yes, I was ready to "sacrifice myself."

              And, it seems, she really treated Alexander I warmly ... However, Alexander's personal life is even more mysterious than the bed relationship between Peter III and Catherine. what
              Pikul wrote very beautifully about Louise. Valentin Savvich, of course, was a writer, not a historian! hi
      2. astra wild2
        astra wild2 12 November 2021 17: 44
        0
        Nikolai, I read that Louise was a strong-willed woman, and Friedrich was weak-willed.
  10. Sertorius
    Sertorius 12 November 2021 15: 21
    +5
    Of course, it is extremely difficult to describe such a large-scale personality in a VO format. Davout and his Third Corps of the Grand Army deserve fundamental work. There is nothing here about his closest assistants - divisional generals: about the past everything from Rivoli to Waterloo Moran, about Davout's brother-in-law Friant, about the "fearless" Dess. Just a couple of words about Guden, who was the first candidate for the next marshal's baton, he did not receive a mortal wound near Valutina Gora. But there are no complaints about the author, only a bow for the labors. hi
    When is Suche ?!
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 12 November 2021 16: 13
      0
      "Davout and his third corps of the Great Army" - actually the first, the third was with Ney, if, of course, we are talking about 1812.
      1. Sertorius
        Sertorius 13 November 2021 01: 45
        +2
        actually the first

        Davout's corps became the first in the Russian company. Before that, he was always the third.
        1. Sergey Valov
          Sergey Valov 13 November 2021 08: 22
          +1
          I know this, but, as I wrote above, you did not specify what time we are talking about.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 12 November 2021 16: 43
      +3
      I understand that Talleyrand is not a marshal, but I would like to read about him. Too colorful personality
      1. Sergey Valov
        Sergey Valov 12 November 2021 17: 48
        +1
        Tarle wrote a long time ago.
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 12 November 2021 18: 46
          +1
          Tarle wrote about Napoleon a long time ago, but Valery also found something to tell about him.
          These are such personalities that there will always be some new nuances.
          1. Sergey Valov
            Sergey Valov 12 November 2021 21: 31
            +3
            Against the background of the volume of Tarle's book ... By the way, I personally could not read the biography of Talleyrand by Tarle, but Talleyrand's memoirs flew by half a year ago, it is a pity that I had not read them earlier. By the way, it is felt that the author was not in the museum of the war of 1812 in Moscow, there is a rare exhibit, a product of Davout's activity - a field kitchen. They (kitchens), at that time, were only in the Davout building.
            1. vladcub
              vladcub 13 November 2021 07: 32
              +1
              Here once Roma Skomorokhov talked about the field kitchen, but about: "Davout's kitchen" there was nothing
              1. Sergey Valov
                Sergey Valov 13 November 2021 08: 17
                +1
                I remember about this article, then I read a similar article in the Sytinsk military encyclopedia, and now, about a month ago I was with my grandchildren in a museum and saw this kitchen personally.
    3. VLR
      12 November 2021 17: 29
      +2
      About Siusha - the next article, already under moderation. The time of appearance in the public domain depends on the editors
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 19: 17
        +3
        About Siusha - the next article, already under moderation. The time of appearance in the public domain depends on the editors

        I will make you both laugh. drinks Write about Napoleonic Land, write about this Land. After all, the best Poirot in cinema! good
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 12 November 2021 19: 21
          +1
          And the British pronounced the same dismissively: "Foreigner."
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 12 November 2021 19: 30
            +1
            And the British pronounced the same dismissively: "Foreigner."

            Poirot was a foreigner! request However, about mores I will propose a topic to Alexei-Boltorez - up the branch. wink drinks Already - suggested! drinks
        2. Sertorius
          Sertorius 13 November 2021 01: 54
          0
          After all, the best Poirot in cinema!

          Well, I don't know .... Ursulyak's mini-series (yes, "Liquidation") "Poirot's Failure" was released in 1994. There, the younger Raikin's brilliant play - just the spitting image of the book Poirot - with a sort of crazy thing. But what is this polished type.
        3. vladcub
          vladcub 13 November 2021 07: 34
          0
          I agree: Poirot in his performance is incomparable
  11. vladcub
    vladcub 12 November 2021 16: 39
    +2
    "Louis will never learn in our profession" I wonder how they reacted in 1805 or 1807?
    Back then, those who mocked Davout for Rousseau could still be alive
  12. depressant
    depressant 12 November 2021 17: 06
    +2
    I'm not sure, but for some reason it seems to me that Davout is remembered only because he is one of the "architects" who helped Napoleon build his era, the interest in which has not waned to this day.
    And in France itself, the attitude towards the Napoleonic era is ambiguous. According to experts, had it not been for the Napoleonic wars, the population of modern France would have been twice as large. And on one of the topics we have already talked about this, comparative numbers were given.
    Many believe that Napoleon is a ruthless soldier who killed 3,5 million people because of his imperial ambitions. Because of this, in 2005, France did not celebrate the 200th anniversary of Napoleon's victory at Austerlitz.
    On the other hand, Napoleon is a great commander, a reformer of state structures, which are still viable in France, as well as a reformer of the army, which has retained its organizational format since those times. And most importantly, the Napoleon Code, which became the basis of civil law in most EU countries.
    What does Marshal Davout have to do with this? A straight line. Without his great generals, the provincial Napoleon Bonaparte would not have become the great emperor Napoleon, but they would not have become great without him.
    It was an amazing, mysterious time. Its echoes still roll over the world.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 12 November 2021 18: 47
      +1
      As well as other marshals of Napoleon
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 13 November 2021 07: 46
      +3
      "they did not celebrate the 200th anniversary" here it is rather a policy of tolerance: Paris is one of the main founders of "United Europe" and here Napoleon is not appropriate. The French for the most part still admire Napoleon, and the "Afro-French" have a very negative attitude towards him. However, they are not much better for the native French either.
  13. astra wild2
    astra wild2 12 November 2021 17: 36
    +2
    Colleagues, Valery, good evening.
    "Share the glory with the Russians" let me express my opinion.
    Perhaps they feared, and it is justified, that Alexander 1 had his own views on the future of France.
    After all, it is known that Alexander 1 visited Josephine in 1814, he admitted the idea of ​​transferring France to Napoleon's son. And suddenly Alexander will say: "Bourbons, adieu. You, you will not be able to manage."
    In any case, it is indicative that the future policy of France was decided not with Ludtwik18 or his representatives, but among themselves
  14. astra wild2
    astra wild2 12 November 2021 18: 04
    +1
    Colleagues, Katka has problems with his phone. Thinks about changing to another one. So he asks: how to save your rating in a new phone.? She wants on android
    1. VLR
      12 November 2021 18: 08
      +4
      In my opinion, if you log in with your username and password, it doesn't matter from what device, even from a stationary computer, even from different phones.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 12 November 2021 18: 48
      +3
      how to save your rating in a new phone.?
      Do not forget your account login and password. You are doctors with her! "I did it - write it down, I didn't do it - write it down twice!"
  15. astra wild2
    astra wild2 12 November 2021 18: 39
    +2
    Valery, you are "ordered": Suchet, Talleyrand, but let me remind you of my wish: tell us about Josephine. All the same, the woman left a mark on history. And come back to Russia
  16. depressant
    depressant 12 November 2021 18: 53
    +1
    Memories of Marshal Davout evoke sadness, such is the feeling. Especially the circumstances of his death and funeral.
    Indeed, none of those in power did not appear at the burial ceremony, but the veterans of the Napoleonic wars, disregarding the ban on participation in the funeral, climbed over the fence from the side of the Invalides to see the marshal on his last journey.
    The ruling circles intended to punish them, but the personal intercession of the widow of the Duke of Auersted before the king saved them. But it became the reason for the exile of Aimé Davout herself. Having outlived her husband by as much as 45 years, she spent them in exile and died in 1868. Under the dim Second Empire, she was one of the last witnesses to the brilliance of the First Empire.
    And the last Duke of Auersted from the Davout clan, the fifth in a row and received this title by special permission of Napoleon III on September 17, 1864, was the nephew of the Marshal - the son of Charles, his brother. It is known that this man was still alive in the mid-1880s.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 13 November 2021 07: 53
      +2
      Actually, as I understood Valery: in France, the descendants of Davout and his cousin still live. Bearers of a noble surname
  17. podymych
    podymych 13 November 2021 15: 05
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    1. podymych
      podymych 13 November 2021 15: 08
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  18. podymych
    podymych 13 November 2021 15: 09
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    One tiny but important nuance - in 1813 General Gouvion Saint-Cyr already had a marshal's baton for the Russian campaign
  19. Elturisto
    Elturisto 29 January 2022 13: 15
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    Thanks to the author for an interesting material.