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It became known about the development of the symbols of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus

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A state cannot be called a state if it does not have official symbols. Now the highest political functionaries of the Union State of Russia and the Republic of Belarus have pondered over such symbols. Legally, the union has existed for at least two decades, but it does not have uniform state symbols to this day.


It was decided to correct the situation, which was confirmed by the State Secretary of the Union of State of Russia and Belarus Dmitry Mezentsev. According to him, work on the creation of state symbols is already underway.

D. Mezentsev made this kind of statement during an interview with reporters. TC "Russia 1".

Based on the results of the work begun, a single union symbol should appear. Moreover, Mezentsev noted that it would not necessarily be the emblem of the SG.

Answering journalistic questions, the Secretary of State noted that the integration processes are continuing. Recently, the leaders of the two countries signed documents within the framework of the so-called decree of the Union State. According to Dmitry Mezentsev, as part of the integration processes at the moment it is not planned to switch to a single currency, although the agreement provides for such a possibility.

Mezentsev pointed out that even in the difficult times of the pandemic, both the Russian and Belarusian rubles have shown their resilience.

Recall that, commenting on the signing of agreements as part of the integration process, the President of Belarus jokingly complained that Vladimir Putin "did not take him with him to Crimea." Several statements by Lukashenka about Crimea in Belarus were called in fact the recognition by the Belarusian president of the Russian ownership of the peninsula.
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  1. isv000
    isv000 6 November 2021 13: 54
    +78
    Based on the results of the work begun, a single union symbol should appear. Moreover, Mezentsev noted that it would not necessarily be the emblem of the SG.

    How long are they going to drag the cat by the tail ?! While both are in power, Old Man needs to plant on the farm, drive thieves, tighten up social programs, and let the GDP adjust foreign policy, bring enemies to life. hi
    1. Moreno
      Moreno 6 November 2021 14: 01
      +8
      Superb comment! I support!
      1. mitroha
        mitroha 6 November 2021 14: 10
        +6
        D. Mezentsev made this kind of statement during an interview with reporters of the Russia 1 TV channel.

        And I never saw this statement request Just the front page
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 6 November 2021 20: 51
        0
        The case is moving forward. But so far it is still unhurried.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 7 November 2021 02: 17
        +2
        Quote: Moreno
        How long are they going to drag the cat by the tail ?! While both are in power, Old Man needs to plant on the farm, drive thieves, tighten up social programs, and let the GDP adjust foreign policy, bring enemies to life.

        Quote: Moreno
        Superb comment! I support!

        My flag is not a converted Dutch trade flag - my flag is red with hammer and sickle. I swore an oath to him, I fought for him. Therefore, I consider the allocation of several million commissions for inventing a "common flag" to be money laundering and theft. They like it - let them live under the flag of the Byelorussian SSR. Whoever we like - let them live under the flag of the Russian merchant fleet. I live, and every Sunday I practice for myself and my wife - raising the flag - red with hammer and sickle.
        1. KLV
          KLV 7 November 2021 08: 20
          0
          And what is your passport, Igor Alekseevich? I’m not joking, I’m just curious. Your position is reminiscent of the views of the anarchist artist from The Bronze Bird.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 8 November 2021 00: 56
            +5
            Quote: KLV
            And what is your passport, Igor Alekseevich? I’m not joking, I’m just curious. Your position is reminiscent of the views of the anarchist artist from The Bronze Bird.

            Russian passport, no other citizenship. And earlier my father had a passport (officer's certificate) of the Soviet Union. And he fought for the TU country on all continents. I fought for the TU country only in one country. But, judging by the orders, he fought well for a senior sergeant of the Airborne Forces - they just don’t give orders. I am Russian, and my father was Russian. And we were taught to defend this land. And while I breathe, I will defend this land. I may not be in the army, but my hunting safe is enough to arm the platoon. And thanks to my father. And I added not sickly. That's enough for a platoon. Only the PKK is missing.
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 7 November 2021 14: 44
          +3
          I don’t envy your wife! Don't you make me march and sing the anthem?
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 8 November 2021 01: 11
            -1
            Quote: Clever man
            I don’t envy your wife! Don't you make me march and sing the anthem?

            In the mornings, at 7.00, my wife "Rise in the Airborne Forces", my grandchildren to school (10 minutes to get ready) I go jogging with the dog. We don't sing the anthem, but Russia, if necessary, unlike you liberals, we will defend ... We were taught that way ..
            1. smart ass
              smart ass 8 November 2021 06: 32
              +1
              The army has seriously injured you
        3. datura23
          datura23 7 November 2021 18: 30
          -7
          How did you not shed blood as a Soviet soldier defending your Soviet homeland? Why did the enemies win, and you are alive?
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 8 November 2021 01: 22
            +4
            Quote: datura23
            How did you not shed blood as a Soviet soldier defending your Soviet homeland? Why did the enemies win, and you are alive?

            Spilled blood ... In the Afghan sand. Artyom, Vaska, Kirill, Sergey, Yurka - they are not, but I am, I survived in Herat in Afghanistan and am proud of it. AND not for you, from the couch, to talk about the war and awards.Tell how exactly and for what the Order was given ???? If you don't know, you won't win on the couch.
            1. datura23
              datura23 8 November 2021 06: 50
              0
              Did you shed blood in Afghanistan? But I decided not to spill at 91, at which point the oath to the red flag became an empty phrase for you. Sincerely.
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 6 November 2021 14: 13
      +13
      Haha wassat laughing as long as both are in force each will be for himself.
      No one will let Old Man in here, it's a bull who will sweep away everything he has acquired. But on the contrary, they try very hard.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 6 November 2021 15: 34
        -13
        And this Bull is planting potatoes.
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 6 November 2021 15: 40
          +17
          So that's great. We will not import from Egypt and Pakistan.
        2. Black5Raven
          Black5Raven 6 November 2021 17: 34
          -8
          Quote: Vadim237
          And this Bull is planting potatoes.

          It will not be able to, a large basis of the entire potato crop was collected from the "bald thieves", i.e. private traders and farmers hated by him.
          And the "mighty" collective farms are in debt as in silks.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 6 November 2021 18: 57
            -8
            Well, here's an indicator of the effectiveness of public administration and state planning.
        3. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 6 November 2021 21: 52
          -2
          Quote: Vadim237
          And this Bull is planting potatoes.

          And without it, potatoes are not planted in the Russian Federation?
      2. isv000
        isv000 6 November 2021 20: 32
        +4
        Quote: YOUR
        No one will let Old Man in here, it's a bull who will sweep away everything he has acquired. But on the contrary, they try very hard.

        If the bison sweeps away everything "acquired" into the treasury, then honor and honor, and cast in bronze if the thief hits his hoof!
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 6 November 2021 14: 14
      +3
      Quote: isv000
      While both are in force, Old Man needs to plant on the farm, drive thieves, tighten social programs

      Exactly! Kolya, again, will have somewhere to attach. And then, it's a pity, the current lot is too small, there is nowhere to turn around. ©
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 6 November 2021 15: 02
        -2
        By the way, Kolya and his dad are in very big disagreements. Somehow I accidentally subtracted it half a year ago.
        1. isv000
          isv000 6 November 2021 15: 12
          +3
          Quote: Ros 56
          By the way, Kolya and his dad are in very big disagreements. Somehow I accidentally subtracted it half a year ago.

          It is very difficult to be the crown prince and to assure the population that you are not aiming for the Pope's place ...
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 6 November 2021 15: 16
            +5
            Read "Fathers and Sons", you will learn a lot of interesting things. Oddly enough, but most children do not want to follow in the footsteps of their parents.
            1. isv000
              isv000 6 November 2021 15: 23
              +2
              Quote: Ros 56
              Read "Fathers and Sons", you will learn a lot of interesting things. Oddly enough, but most children do not want to follow in the footsteps of their parents.

              You don't have to follow in the footsteps, there are enough corridors of power ...
            2. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 16: 04
              0
              Quote: Ros 56
              Read "Fathers and Sons", you will learn a lot of interesting things. Oddly enough, but most children do not want to follow in the footsteps of their parents.

              And this is good. More and more youngsters better perceive the views not of their parents, who rushed to the carrots of capitalism, but of their ancestors.
            3. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 6 November 2021 16: 47
              +3
              Quote: Ros 56
              but most children are unwilling to follow in the footsteps of their parents.

              this often changes after the final onset of puberty.
            4. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 7 November 2021 02: 37
              +3
              Quote: Ros 56
              Read "Fathers and Sons", you will learn a lot of interesting things.

              He forced his own with kicks. It's now five minutes before the Airborne Forces officer, in Ryazan, and thanks me. Not for "Fathers and children specifically - for all the upbringing and training. I ride a Lisapeda in the morning. And my Caucasian and my son are running alongside. That's what he thanks me for now."
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 18: 48
          -5
          Kolya, like our former Komsomol leaders, wants imported b ... she
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 6 November 2021 18: 55
          0
          Quote: Ros 56
          By the way, Kolya and his dad are in very big disagreements. Somehow I accidentally subtracted it half a year ago.

          Ha ha three times! The teenager is "at great odds" with dad! lol Nothing, it will get rid of like big brothers. bully Although, if you remember the story with Alexei Romanov ...
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 6 November 2021 15: 11
        +5
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Kolya, again, will have somewhere to attach. And then, it's a pity, the current lot is too small, there is nowhere to turn around. ©

        Kolyunya as ambassador to Cape Verde .. Poklonskaya prosecutor to the Crimea.
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 6 November 2021 15: 17
          +1
          An interesting thought, but Natalia agrees?
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 6 November 2021 15: 20
            +3
            Quote: Ros 56
            An interesting thought, but Natalia agrees?

            I am sure I agree! She was going to return to service in the Crimea, but ... Cape Verde ..
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 6 November 2021 16: 27
              +3
              Quote: 30 vis
              Kolunu as ambassador to Cape Verde .. Poklonskaya prosecutor to Crimea

              Poklonskaya went crazy on the basis of popularity.
              With a portrait of Nicholas-rags in the Immortal regiment wormed.
              These people gave their lives so that their descendants could live free without kings.
              This is the bottom. It remains only with portraits of the SS men to go through there in order to finally break through the bottom
        2. isv000
          isv000 6 November 2021 15: 18
          +3
          Quote: 30 vis
          Kolyunya as ambassador to Cape Verde .. Poklonskaya prosecutor to the Crimea.

          They sent Poklonskaya to rest, gain strength, there is a lot of work ahead as the Prosecutor General of the Ukrainian SSR ... bully
    4. knn54
      knn54 6 November 2021 14: 35
      0
      Symbolism is an image of one's love / pride for the Motherland.
    5. Alexga
      Alexga 6 November 2021 15: 04
      0
      While both are in power, Old Man needs to plant on the farm, drive thieves, tighten social programs,

      And a firing squad for more efficient work.
      1. isv000
        isv000 6 November 2021 15: 10
        -1
        Quote: AlexGa
        And a firing squad for more efficient work.

        Ready to lead.
      2. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 6 November 2021 18: 56
        +3
        Alexander, there will be no one left from the government of the Russian Federation
    6. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 6 November 2021 15: 09
      0
      Ideally ! What both countries lack.
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 November 2021 15: 16
      +2
      Quote: isv000
      While both are in force, Old Man needs to plant on the farm, drive thieves, tighten social programs

      Yes, Old Man is very good at it. Why not put in such a place.
      1. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 6 November 2021 17: 38
        -7
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Yes, Old Man is very good at it. Why not put in such a place.

        Do you have a desire to move to a country for life, where a salary of 500 rubles for happiness in the regions, and loans for housing at a miserable 26% per annum?
        And where, on the orders of a powerful virologist, even the Ministry of Health is silent in a rag and removes its own decision on the mask mode in public places. Welcome to plague beads (buses).
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 November 2021 18: 23
          +2
          Quote: Black5Raven
          Do you have a desire to move to a country for life, where a salary of 500 rubles for happiness in the regions, and loans for housing at a miserable 26% per annum?

          Yes, I have an apartment in Minsk, and my pension is several times higher than the salary you indicated.
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 18: 58
          0
          not finished off black raven-liar
      2. Ilya Nikitich
        Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 30
        -2
        I do not know. that Old Man is good at it, but you would be more careful with your desires. Especially about planting ...
    8. JD1979
      JD1979 6 November 2021 15: 53
      -1
      Quote: isv000
      While both are in power, Old Man needs to plant on the farm, drive thieves, tighten social programs,

      That awkward moment when he wanted the best, but it turned out as usual))) Where to plant him, he already sits on the farm))) and pulls the social network))) to himself and to his hangers-on))) the rest receive taxes, fees, inadequate prices, dismissals according to the lists and pull up the rope of the pants))) Take it for yourself, you will feel what "country for life" means)))
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 18: 47
        +4
        Quote: JD1979
        Where to plant him, he already sits on the farm))) and pulls up the social program))) to himself and his hangers-on)))

        And how many six-deck yachts do his "lords" have?
        You can tell.
        1. JD1979
          JD1979 6 November 2021 23: 49
          -2
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          And how many six-deck yachts do his "lords" have?
          You can tell.

          What country, such are the yachts))) you do not compare the scale of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, this time, no one can be richer than the main thing, these are two))), find the shores of the Belarusian sea to park a yacht, these are three)))
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 23: 56
            +4
            Quote: JD1979
            find the shores of the Belarusian sea to park the yacht, these are three)))

            The yachts of the Russian oligarchy graze not on our shores.
            So you have not found any examples. hi
    9. Ilya Nikitich
      Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 23
      -2
      pulling up social programs is great, although in Russia it is no worse than in Belarus. But what will happen to the economy in general? Maybe it's better to put Old Man on Roskosmos? Although why is Roscosmos ...
      1. JD1979
        JD1979 6 November 2021 23: 53
        +1
        Quote: Ilya Nikitich
        Maybe it's better to put Old Man on Roskosmos?

        Do you think the historian-chairman will cope better than a journalist?)))
        1. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 7 November 2021 01: 38
          0
          Not well, they say that Old Man is an awesome business executive. So let him build his economy on Mars. And the goal is good, and ambitions will amuse.
          Quote: Ilya Nikitich
          Although why is Roscosmos ...

          Let it be better to rule in SoyuzRosBelKosmos ...
    10. Ilgizl
      Ilgizl 7 November 2021 20: 19
      0
      In the ideal it would be like this. However, ours, well, those who were defeated by the leader and who are no longer actually determine the economy, and therefore politics.
  2. poquello
    poquello 6 November 2021 13: 54
    +8
    Is it possible to sew a vertical strip from a sweater to the tricolor?
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 6 November 2021 13: 58
      +31
      Everything has been invented for a long time and the symbol is also a sickle and a hammer on a red background.
      1. poquello
        poquello 6 November 2021 14: 04
        -22
        Quote: BARKAS
        hammer and sickle on red background

        do you want to live, but do you want to strike? you can also use a tractor, a shovel, a nut and a wrench
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 November 2021 15: 36
          -6
          Better pliers and long nose pliers.
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 02
          0
          lousy latin dog
      2. isv000
        isv000 6 November 2021 14: 07
        +18
        Quote: BARKAS
        Everything has been invented for a long time and the symbol is also a sickle and a hammer on a red background.

        Right! The Union of Free Union Republics - this will be like a sickle in one place and a hammer in another! hi
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 6 November 2021 15: 20
          +5
          Quote: isv000
          The Union of Free Union Republics - this will be like a sickle in one place and a hammer in another!

          To be a sickle in one place - you need to be, not seem. It is possible to accept the flag with the hammer and sickle, and to name the USSR, only as long as the power in the country is oligarchic-capitalist (with all that it implies), no one in the West will scratch itself. Americans hiccup and catch deja vu from the flag of the CCP, because it has power and ideology behind it.
          1. Ilya Nikitich
            Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 36
            0
            Could it be more detailed about the ideology of the CCP? Please clarify how many CCP members are on the Forbes list.
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 7 November 2021 11: 59
              +1
              Quote: Ilya Nikitich
              Could it be more detailed about the ideology of the CCP?

              The ultimate goal of the party is to build a communist society. The Chinese Communist Party proclaims that it is guided in its activities by "Marxism-Leninism, the ideas of Mao Zedong", Deng Xiaoping's theory, Jiang Zemin's "theory of three representations", Hu Jintao's "scientific concept of development" and the ideas of Xi Jinping about the socialism of a new Chinese era. ...

              The primary (at least the declared) goal is communism. With some nuances, of course.
              1. yehour
                yehour 8 November 2021 14: 03
                0
                With some nuances, of course.

                Here it is - the devil is in the details. In China, there is now ordinary corporate capitalism behind a leftist façade. In other words, a simulacrum. It is quite a widespread phenomenon in the world of victorious postmodernism ...
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 8 November 2021 14: 24
                  0
                  Quote: yehour
                  In China, there is now ordinary corporate capitalism behind a leftist façade.

                  And also behind the facade is revanchism and industrial capacity. Whichever side you look at China - there is something to be afraid of.
                  1. yehour
                    yehour 8 November 2021 14: 39
                    0
                    This is true, they are not our friends, but only situational allies, this must be firmly assimilated.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 8 November 2021 14: 41
                      0
                      Write about it to the Kremlin and federal channels. They don't seem to know.
                      1. yehour
                        yehour 12 November 2021 23: 44
                        0
                        The initiative is not punishable, you have a pen in your hands :)
      3. Alexga
        Alexga 6 November 2021 14: 13
        +12
        Quite right, in Minsk they never let him down over the Museum of the Great Patriotic War.
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      5. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 November 2021 15: 32
        +12
        Quote: BARKAS
        Everything has been invented for a long time and the symbol is also a sickle and a hammer on a red background.
        And what is there to invent, there was already a coat of arms with a hammer and sickle. Where necessary to leave, not necessary to remove. Whoever wants to join, there is enough room for everyone. even for the USA.
        And the coat of arms is handsome! Do not compare with different chickens, and donkeys, and different fictitious boogers, and pitchforks.
        And I congratulate everyone who lived, who honors the memory of our country of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, on the upcoming Day of the October Revolution !!!
        1. poquello
          poquello 6 November 2021 16: 10
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And the coat of arms is handsome! Do not compare with different chickens, and donkeys, and different fictitious boogers, and pitchforks.

          thanks, somehow the old fashioned way
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 17
            +3
            Quote: poquello
            thanks, somehow the old fashioned way

            I, too, have nothing against the old, this is our story.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 6 November 2021 18: 59
            -1
            Only the inscription "God is with us" should be removed.
            1. poquello
              poquello 6 November 2021 20: 04
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              Only the inscription "God is with us" should be removed.

              heh heh, remove? to remove the motto with which they went into battle for hundreds of years? remove from the coat of arms of the country chosen by God? "TWO ROMES FALLED, AND THE THIRD IS WORTH, AND THE FOURTH WILL NOT BE HAPPENING!"
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 6 November 2021 16: 53
          +6
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And I congratulate everyone who lived, who honors the memory of our country of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, on the upcoming Day of the October Revolution !!!

          We honor the memory !!!
          1. Ilya Nikitich
            Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 38
            0
            We honor the memory, but think about the future!
        3. Ros 56
          Ros 56 6 November 2021 20: 11
          0
          I'm embarrassed to ask: Duc and how it all ended, do not remember the 90s ????? Enough already doing crap, I have no extra 30 years.
        4. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 6 November 2021 21: 57
          +3
          And I congratulate everyone who lived, who honors the memory of our country of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, on the upcoming Day of the October Revolution !!!
          ..... I support ... especially since tomorrow a rally at the monument to Ilyich, which was defended in February 2014 ... a landmark deed of historical mixing
    2. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 14: 10
      +12
      Quote: poquello
      Is it possible to sew a vertical strip from a sweater to the tricolor?

      What for? Each republic will have its own banners, but with a national banner to return kumach with a hammer and sickle!
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 6 November 2021 14: 15
        +8
        Quote: isv000
        What for? Each republic will have its own banners, but with a national banner to return kumach with a hammer and sickle!

        And the international is the anthem !!!
        1. isv000
          isv000 6 November 2021 14: 17
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And the international is the anthem !!!

          The main thing is not to repeat "to the core, and then ..." ...
          1. serg.shishkov2015
            serg.shishkov2015 6 November 2021 14: 38
            +5
            Do you remember WHAT was sung there? We will destroy the whole world of VIOLENCE ,,,, Do you like the world of violence?
            1. isv000
              isv000 6 November 2021 14: 42
              0
              Quote: serg.shishkov2015
              Do you remember WHAT was sung there? We will destroy the whole world of VIOLENCE ,,,, Do you like the world of violence?

              Who will determine the degree of violence - that is the question, Cheka?
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 6 November 2021 14: 56
              0
              Quote: serg.shishkov2015
              Do you remember WHAT was sung there? We will destroy the whole world of VIOLENCE ... Do you like the world of violence?

              We must show the usual:
            3. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 6 November 2021 15: 15
              +5
              Quote: serg.shishkov2015
              Do you remember WHAT was sung there? We will destroy the whole world of VIOLENCE ,,,, Do you like the world of violence?

              Unfortunately, violence against a person begins at birth. Don't cry, don't play around, keep your back straight .. children. kindergarten, school and on the rise .. Until they are bent into a ram's horn and thrown into retirement.
              1. isv000
                isv000 6 November 2021 15: 26
                +3
                Quote: 30 vis
                Until he is bent into a ram's horn and retired.

                They also call this "survival time" ... If you are 55, whoever hires you for work, even if you are covered with resume and recommendations, and before "retirement" there are still 10 years, and your stomach growls every day ... negative
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 6 November 2021 17: 05
                  +3
                  Quote: isv000
                  If you are 55 - fuck you who will hire you, even if you cover your resume and recommendations

                  I worked until I was 70, and then they escorted me out - "the wild don't want to pay insurance for you"
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 08
                    -3
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    I worked until I was 70, and then they escorted me out - "the wild don't want to pay insurance for you"

                    I would switch to half the rate, a good increase to my pension ... or to a "black" salary, what a heresy, anyway, retired at 70 years old, you can generally work under a civil law contract as a self-employed or individual entrepreneur ... ...
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 7 November 2021 12: 39
                      0
                      Quote: Lara Croft
                      I would switch to half the rate, a good increase to my pension ... or to a "black" salary, what a heresy, anyway, retired at 70 years old, you can generally work under a civil law contract as a self-employed or individual entrepreneur ... ...

                      I do not live in Russia, it is easier for us to work wherever you want (if you are retired), but our 20% income tax is not taken from 500 euros, but higher is already taken, and after 1200 euros it is progressively more than 20%.
                      So, pensioners have a pension + salary and they do not take tax from it from 500 euros, and then 20 kopecks from the ruble (euro). My pension is tax-free, and my work is taxed on every euro.
                2. Ilya Nikitich
                  Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 44
                  +1
                  At 58, my neighbor was begged to go out to work (milling machine operator, sickness pension). Maybe all the same does not depend on the summary and recommendations ???
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 6 November 2021 23: 34
                    0
                    Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                    recommendations depends ???

                    As for recommendations, especially by phone, I disagree with you, now it is easy to find out what you are ... one call from a new employer to an old one is enough ...
                    1. Ilya Nikitich
                      Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 23: 37
                      0
                      Larochka, the thing is, you see, the old employer called the neighbor to work, the one from where the neighbor quit 11 years ago due to illness.
                    2. nerd.su
                      nerd.su 7 November 2021 16: 34
                      -1
                      Quote: Lara Croft
                      one call from a new employer to an old one is enough ...

                      so you can only find out the opinion of the old employer. not the fact that it will be objective.
                      1. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 November 2021 16: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: bot.su
                        so you can only find out the opinion of the old employer. not the fact that it will be objective.

                        Your suggestions?
                      2. nerd.su
                        nerd.su 7 November 2021 16: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Your suggestions?

                        Do you need to evaluate someone's recommendations?

                        Actually, you need to have a person on the staff who can assess the skills of a candidate for work. It is desirable that the person being accepted then work under the guidance of that person.
                        But if you're interested, you can of course call your old employer. This characterizes your professionalism as a leader.
                      3. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 November 2021 18: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: bot.su
                        Actually, you need have a person on staff who can assess the skills of the candidate into workers.

                        In all professions? Sometimes the employer himself cannot formulate who he needs, what to say about OK.
                      4. nerd.su
                        nerd.su 9 November 2021 22: 24
                        -1
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        For all professions?

                        How does the enterprise function? Roughly speaking, the head of the shop accepts, foremen, foremen of workers. And the personnel department draws up the specialists indicated to it. No matter how large the enterprise is, as long as this principle of team formation is observed with personal responsibility for the allotted area of ​​work, there will be no problems with personnel. Under no circumstances should HR personnel evaluate employee skills.
                        Of course, you can call the previous employer. If you know him well or someone who knows about the inner workings. Call a stranger to get their opinion of another stranger ...
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 7 November 2021 07: 24
                0
                Quote: 30 vis
                Unfortunately, violence against a person begins at birth

                ++ any social change and redistribution in society is always violence.
                The point of socialist violence is that you cannot have more money than you can eat. Okay, what kind of professor, has a servant and eats caviar for breakfast, otherwise the thieves turn back states commensurate with the budgets of small countries
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 7 November 2021 08: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  , otherwise the troyes turn up the fortunes commensurate with the budgets of small countries

                  Now I understand why, under socialism, a bartender with a salary of 75 rubles drove a brand new 24 Volga. had a four-room cooperative apartment, and the commander of the destroyer traveled by bus, lived in a two-room Khrushchev, etc. That's the problem ? In fair distribution !!!
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 7 November 2021 19: 15
                    +2
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    why under socialism a bartender with a salary of 75 rubles

                    The Volga can be eaten, like a 4-room apartment. But you have to work as a bartender! hide from the OBKHSS! Stand up for a fair distribution of state property and build a small trickle laughing
                    That being said, remember that our lame health and education system grew out of socialism. In fact, these are the elements of socialism that remained to us, for which the grandfathers fought laughing
                    But now the entrepreneurs have turned in fact into self-employed proletarians! wassat And the capitalists, bloodsuckers, have merged with the Power, and only small streams from the people's wealth fall to the proletarians. And the Banking system milks everyone !!!!!
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 14: 50
            0
            Quote: isv000
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            And the international is the anthem !!!

            The main thing is not to repeat "to the core, and then ..." ...

            The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"
            1. isv000
              isv000 6 November 2021 14: 53
              +2
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"

              Will we be dispossessed again?
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 14: 55
                0
                Quote: isv000
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"

                Will we be dispossessed again?

                Why not? Any sechins, rutenbergs, Chubais, etc. from this cohort.
                Are you against?
                1. isv000
                  isv000 6 November 2021 14: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Why not? Any Sechins, Ruthenbergs, Chubais, etc. from this cohort. Are you against?

                  And what about rural men with machinery, hiring laborers?
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 14: 59
                    0
                    Quote: isv000
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Why not? Any Sechins, Ruthenbergs, Chubais, etc. from this cohort. Are you against?

                    And what about rural men with machinery, hiring laborers?

                    Rural men plow themselves like you, I guess, never plowed in your life
                    1. isv000
                      isv000 6 November 2021 15: 02
                      +2
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Rural men plow themselves like you, I guess, never plowed in your life

                      Very wisely, you inserted the word "I suppose". Otherwise, you can go to extremes by throwing words ...
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 15: 13
                        -2
                        Quote: isv000

                        Very wisely, you inserted the word "I suppose". Otherwise, you can go to extremes by throwing words ...

                        Well, you have encrypted yourself in the Latin alphabet with three zeros, and therefore assumed that he was not a hard worker. Only athletes, during training, spend more energy than hard workers on a normal working day.
                      2. isv000
                        isv000 6 November 2021 15: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Well, you have encrypted yourself in the Latin alphabet with three zeros, and therefore assumed that he was not a hard worker. Only athletes, during training, spend more energy than hard workers on a normal working day.

                        There was a time, more than one km was wound along the holds ...
                      3. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Well, you have encrypted yourself in the Latin alphabet with three zeros, and therefore assumed that he was not a hard worker.

                        And you sat near Krasnoyarsk, according to your nickname? laughing
                      4. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 7 November 2021 14: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: Lara Croft

                        And you sat near Krasnoyarsk, according to your nickname?

                        Why "under"? Are you more familiar, madam? wassat
                      5. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 November 2021 14: 34
                        -1
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Why "under"?

                        Not far from Krasnoyarsk and near ...
                    2. Ros 56
                      Ros 56 6 November 2021 20: 21
                      0
                      Well, enough nonsense already, you will find a horseradish turner now, and in the villages there is a general drunkenness. Everything that was in the Union has already been lost, and it will take more than a dozen years to bring the economy to life. Can't you see how many years we have been building ships, and this is not because of a good life. There are now points of development throughout the country, so we need to dance from them and from state corporations, all some kind of movement forward.
                      1. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 7 November 2021 19: 21
                        0
                        Quote: Ros 56
                        and from state corporations, all some kind of forward movement.

                        Regarding state corporations ..... I believe that there should be a limit on the difference in wages between the top and the lowest level, more precisely, the director's salary directly depends on the worker's salary. And it cannot differ by admitting 10 times!
                      2. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 7 November 2021 19: 37
                        +1
                        Absolutely agree with you.
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 6 November 2021 17: 08
                    -1
                    Quote: isv000
                    And what about rural men with machinery, hiring laborers?

                    Even though you are a man, if you hire people, you are a capitalist. And if migrant workers, you are a private entrepreneur.
                    1. cat Rusich
                      cat Rusich 6 November 2021 18: 21
                      +3
                      Quote: tihonmarine

                      Even though you are a man, if you hire people, you are a capitalist. And if migrant workers, you are a private entrepreneur.
                      In horticulture, it is common practice to hire "farm laborers with motoblocks" for plowing the land for potatoes.
                      That's all... welcome to the fists bully
                      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 18: 56
                        -1
                        Quote: cat Rusich
                        In horticulture, the practice of hiring "laborers with walk-behind tractors" for plowing the land for potatoes is widespread.

                        Rather not to hire, but to "invite", tk. payment usually goes through a joint drinking. drinks
                      2. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 6 November 2021 20: 49
                        0
                        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

                        Rather not to hire, but to "invite", tk. payment usually goes through a joint drinking. drinks
                        In the old days, our family itself dug up the site for potatoes, even with simple shovels, but time passed and we have already moved into the category employers.
                        This year "farm laborers" broke the price of 500 rubles per hundred square meters.
                        Not any barter - not a drop behind the wheel - the walk-behind tractor is brought in a trailer of a passenger car. Several years ago, the "Belarus" tractor plowed the potato plot.
                        hi
                      3. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 6 November 2021 21: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: cat Rusich
                        In the old days, our family itself dug up the site for potatoes, even with simple shovels, but time passed and we have already moved into the category of employers.

                        "Sotki" plowed for potatoes on horseback, and dug by hand, we have a pitchfork, and in some places with a shovel. It was possible to join together, first yours, then mine, and invite others to the neighbors, and then throw a "banquet".
                      4. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 6 November 2021 21: 47
                        +3
                        Quote: tihonmarine

                        "Sotki" plowed for potatoes on horseback, and dug by hand, we have a pitchfork, and in some places with a shovel. It was possible to join together, first yours, then mine, and invite others to the neighbors, and then throw a "banquet".
                        It is good to plow with a horse when the "potato plantations" are arranged in a convenient order.
                        We had such a plot on a "potato plantation" - we plowed all plots with a tractor at once ... but over time (just a few years) several persons with "tricky fifths" appeared among the "honest potato growers" - they did not pay, but the tractor plowed them sites, moving from one site to another.
                        And the whole "collective farm" collapsed ... and then they began to steal potatoes, several times, one or a couple of strips. After they had already stolen half of the plot, they abandoned it. We moved the planting of potatoes to the garden. Now, where the potatoes turned green, now birches and pines turn green, we are already going there for mushrooms ...
                      5. Waterways 672
                        Waterways 672 7 November 2021 10: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        ... It was possible to join together, first yours, then mine, and invite others to the neighbors, and then throw a "banquet".

                        We also practiced this, this business was called the word TOLOKA.
                    2. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 19
                      -2
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Even though you are a man, if you hire people, you are a capitalist.

                      So under the Union, men were also hired ...
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 7 November 2021 12: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        So under the Union, men were also hired ...

                        I remember this, my neighbor always took a man for a while, and clearly paid him for the night worked, and then took another man.
                        Hiring a worker does not mean capitalism, like the case with a neighbor, it is the personal exploitation of another person for money.
                    3. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 7 November 2021 19: 24
                      0
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Even though you are a man, if you hire people, you are a capitalist. And if migrant workers, you are a private entrepreneur.

                      this is demagoguery. And in Sweden where up to 70% of income taxes are paid?
                      public ownership of the means of production is just a way to control and distribute a social product; in our information age, you can simply distribute taxes. A progressive tax on super profits is an element of socialism!
                  3. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 11
                    -2
                    Quote: isv000
                    And what about rural men with machinery, hiring laborers?

                    But what about, like a "class" against the wall, and let the farm laborers collect food in the village ...
                  4. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 7 November 2021 19: 18
                    -1
                    Quote: isv000
                    And what about rural men with machinery, hiring laborers?

                    this is overkill. In communist China, a farmer in agriculture has the right to hire 7 laborers.
                2. Ilya Nikitich
                  Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 48
                  0
                  And you in their place?
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 7 November 2021 07: 31
                0
                Quote: isv000
                Will we be dispossessed again?

                if I were a statesman, and the decision on how to develop would depend on me, then I would defend a different path: the organization of joint-stock companies, with a large share of state capital in which everyone who works has a share in the property of the company and the charter is prohibited from having a large gap in wages between the cleaner and directors.
                That is, without a revolution, an industry of a socialist type is created in the country. Competitor to the existing system. I'm sure it will work.
            2. isv000
              isv000 6 November 2021 14: 55
              -5
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"

              So they will rob ... belay
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 14: 57
                +4
                Quote: isv000
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"

                So they will rob ... belay

                Aren't the people of Russia plundered by the Ruthenbergs, Sechins, Chubais, etc. from this group? Why are they allowed, but not us?
                1. isv000
                  isv000 6 November 2021 14: 59
                  -1
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Why are they allowed, but not us?

                  Here! Are you ready to head the first battalion?
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 15: 03
                    -1
                    Quote: isv000
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Why are they allowed, but not us?

                    Here! Are you ready to head the first battalion?

                    Why are you so scared? "Does the cat smell whose fat it has eaten?" Is it really a stigma in a cannon? Then get ready laughing
                    1. isv000
                      isv000 6 November 2021 15: 06
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Why are you so scared? "Does the cat smell whose fat it has eaten?" Is it really a stigma in a cannon? Then get ready

                      "... I sell kulubnik grown in my garden ..."! But bawlers like you really belong in kombeds ...
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 15: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: isv000

                        "... I sell kulubnik grown in my garden ..."! But bawlers like you really belong in kombeds ...

                        Then you are my ally. Everyone who earns by their labor is my ally. It's just that not everyone understands this. Blindness is also hindered by excessive gullibility towards the liberal media.
                      2. isv000
                        isv000 6 November 2021 15: 20
                        -2
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Blindness is also hindered by excessive gullibility towards the liberal media.

                        In this regard, I have independence from the current government.
                      3. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 15: 29
                        +1
                        Quote: isv000

                        In this regard, I have independence from the current government.

                        Don't tell my slippers. You cannot even imagine, or are you afraid (?), How dependent you are on the authorities.
                        Well, yes, we deviated from the topic. What is your attitude to the activation, at this stage, of building a union state?
                        How do you like the proposal for a red banner with a hammer and sickle for the SG?
                      4. isv000
                        isv000 6 November 2021 15: 49
                        -2
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        How do you like the proposal for a red banner with a hammer and sickle for the SG?

                        Read from above who it came from, including ...
                      5. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 27
                        -2
                        Quote: isv000
                        Read from above who it came from, including ...

                        Well, he didn’t get away from the bawler and he would take the proceeds and shoot him because of the opposite ideology ...
                      6. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 6 November 2021 20: 27
                        0
                        Everything that has been done with your own hands will lead you to the primitive communal system, don't you understand ??? fellow Try to make a modern technical device with your own hands, such as a car, computer, washing machine, TV set and much more. I am silent about modern weapon systems.
                      7. Ilya Nikitich
                        Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 22: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Everyone who earns by their labor is my ally.

                        Sorry, have you tried to earn money with your own labor (except for taking away and sharing)? In what area? What position?
                      8. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 23: 22
                        -1
                        Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                        Sorry, have you tried to earn money with your own labor (except for taking away and sharing)? In what area? What position?

                        Mostly in the felling area ...
                        Don't be angry with him, on occasion, tell him that you also grow strawberries and don't talk about your wife tihonmarine he loves sweets (he wrote here himself) or tries to love (he is 70 years old) ...
                      9. Ilya Nikitich
                        Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 23: 24
                        -1
                        Madam, it is a sin to be angry ...
                      10. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 7 November 2021 14: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Lara Croft

                        Mostly in the felling area ...

                        Funny ... laughing
                      11. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 7 November 2021 14: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Everyone who earns by their labor is my ally.

                        Sorry, have you tried to earn money with your own labor (except for taking away and sharing)? In what area? What position?

                        Yes, 43 years in production, with my own hands and head.
                      12. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 23: 43
                        -2
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Everyone who earns by their labor is my ally. It's just that not everyone understands this.

                        It was difficult for you "near Krasnoyarsk" until someone understands who your ally is ....
                      13. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 6 November 2021 15: 43
                        0
                        Quote: isv000
                        "... I sell kulubnik grown in my garden ..."!

                        So this is personal property, and not "private ownership of the means of production and wage labor."
                        On the contrary, it was welcomed and welcomed, you personally help the state.
                      14. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 26
                        -1
                        Quote: isv000
                        "... I sell kulubnik grown in my garden ..."!

                        Trading means a capitalist. So wait for a bawler to yourself for a fraction of his small ...
                      15. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 7 November 2021 14: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Quote: isv000
                        "... I sell kulubnik grown in my garden ..."!

                        Trading means a capitalist. So wait for a bawler to yourself for a fraction of his small ...

                        You are primitive, Lara. I would even say - pathetic.
                      16. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 7 November 2021 14: 33
                        -1
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You are primitive, Lara. I would even say - pathetic.

                        Your statement:
                        Why are you so scared? "Does the cat smell whose lard has eaten?" Is it really a stigma in a cannon? Then brace yourself laughing
                        и
                        Why are they allowed, but not us?
                        apparently not pathetic, only for you.
                      17. isv000
                        isv000 8 November 2021 14: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Trading means a capitalist. So wait for a bawler to yourself for a fraction of his small ...

                        ... Yes-ah, you have to marry an orphan! ...
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 6 November 2021 15: 40
                  -1
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Aren't the people of Russia plundered by the Ruthenbergs, Sechins, Chubais, etc. from this group?

                  There should not be any "lazy or not", just clearly, without violence, say "every penny to the state, and roll on four sides." After 1917, non-violent nationalization took place in many countries. There are plenty of examples.
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 6 November 2021 17: 09
                0
                Quote: isv000
                So they will rob ...

                Why so rudely - to expropriate.
              3. Siberian54
                Siberian54 7 November 2021 10: 06
                0
                In the absence of "Belovezhskaya Pushcha" it is quite possible that in the nineties there was no catastrophic drawdown in GDP and living standards .. That's all rests against the thirsty drunk rushing to personal power.
                1. Siberian54
                  Siberian54 7 November 2021 10: 08
                  0
                  wow, this is a machine gun cut blunt
            3. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 6 November 2021 15: 16
              -3
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Quote: isv000
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              And the international is the anthem !!!

              The main thing is not to repeat "to the core, and then ..." ...

              The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"

              We will socialize women?
              1. isv000
                isv000 6 November 2021 15: 30
                +1
                Quote: 30 vis
                We will socialize women?

                A donut hole for you! Look, I'm drawn to the sweet!
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 20
                  0
                  Quote: isv000
                  A donut hole for you! Look, I'm drawn to the sweet!

                  Well, yes, we are not in France.
                2. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 6 November 2021 20: 23
                  +1
                  I love this business ...., I am sinful, repenting. And you give me a donut hole ... And what an interesting surname good ! Donut .. donut hole ....... Erotic ... laughing Immediately writing .... Humor ... drinks
                3. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 32
                  0
                  Quote: isv000
                  A donut hole for you! Look, I'm drawn to the sweet!

                  Where do you go when your strawberries Krasnoyarsk it will gobble up in front of you, and 70
                  tihonmarine the woman will see, well, or vice versa, they will do it ...
                  Began to make excuses about income, all write was lost, laborers under the leadership Krasnoyarsk and they will decide you ...
            4. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 6 November 2021 15: 36
              -3
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              The redistribution of property from private to state property is "to the ground"

              You can't do without it.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 19
          -1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And the international is the anthem !!!

          "Glory, Glory, our Fatherland ...."
        3. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 08
          +1
          Evgeny, as our history has shown, nor any internationals, be famous for the glory of the Russian people only in this way and how else do you have few occasions in the metro and new Moscow do you have grandchildren?
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 6 November 2021 20: 30
            +1
            Such monkeys should not be allowed out of the house without muzzles.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 6 November 2021 14: 16
        +11
        Quote: isv000
        Each republic will have its own banners, but with a nationwide banner to return kumach with hammer and sickle!

        good
        1. Pandiurin
          Pandiurin 6 November 2021 14: 37
          +7
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: isv000
          Each republic will have its own banners, but with a nationwide banner to return kumach with hammer and sickle!

          good


          If the choice of symbols is public, then the hammer and sickle can win by the votes of ordinary citizens.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 6 November 2021 14: 52
            +5
            It seems to you. The generations born during perestroika and after the collapse of the USSR are mostly treated differently. It's just that on the internet, everyone is a handful of like-minded people - hence the false feeling that everyone around you thinks like you. The inhabitants of Echo of Moscow also think that they are the majority. request
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 25
            +1
            Quote: Pandiurin
            If the choice of symbols is public, then the hammer and sickle can win by the votes of ordinary citizens.

            For 25 years, he proudly blew on the foresail of the mast.
            1. Liam
              Liam 6 November 2021 16: 29
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Pandiurin
              If the choice of symbols is public, then the hammer and sickle can win by the votes of ordinary citizens.

              For 25 years, he proudly blew on the foresail of the mast.

              How old are you?
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 6 November 2021 17: 10
                0
                Quote: Liam
                How old are you?

                They do not live so much !!! Or to clarify.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 6 November 2021 23: 10
                  0
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Or to clarify

                  Don't ... lie out of habit
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 7 November 2021 12: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Liam
                    Don't ... lie out of habit

                    So why are you asking. Although, if you really want to, from 1966 he walked on the deck, and from 1968 until the collapse he stood on the bridge, and after the collapse he went under the flag.
            2. Ilya Nikitich
              Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 23: 07
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              For 25 years, he proudly blew on the foresail of the mast.

              Oops, so we figured out the oligarch. Well, sir, how much income do you have on a yacht?
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 7 November 2021 12: 24
                0
                Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                Well, sir, how much income do you have on a yacht?

                Well, you are my friend in naval affairs, you understand like a goat in orange peels.
                And all the more so what personal yachts in the USSR, at most a "Kazanka" boat with an outboard "Whirlwind".
                Right now we have friends, for four there is one yacht of sea performance, last year we reached the Canary Islands.
                1. Ilya Nikitich
                  Ilya Nikitich 7 November 2021 12: 48
                  +1
                  Yeah, here the organized criminal group is colloquially referred to as a gang ...
            3. Ilya Nikitich
              Ilya Nikitich 7 November 2021 01: 48
              0
              Tovarisschch, of course you have nicely pushed the yacht, but could you tell the sire and the poor what a ray is and how a flag is hung on it ???
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 7 November 2021 13: 19
                0
                Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                Comrade, of course you nicely pushed the yacht, but could you tell the sir and the poor what a ray is and how a flag is hung on it

                Rhea is where the pirates were hung.
          3. baltiksi
            baltiksi 6 November 2021 17: 29
            0
            Comrade Stalin also said, it doesn’t matter how they galas, the main thing is how they think.
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 13
          0
          Yuri Vasilyevich, there is only subordination to any federation and if not, then they did not come up with the idea of ​​crushing another in the world, but the Bolsheviks came up with it and we jump up and this is for a long time
      3. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 04
        -3
        Quote: isv000
        Each republic will have its own banners, but with a national banner to return kumach with a hammer and sickle!

        Yes, in the former republics, even though the ISIS flag will be adopted, if only I will free again at the expense of the Russian Federation, and then urge it on, for poor work ...
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 14: 47
      +5
      Quote: poquello
      Is it possible to sew a vertical strip from a sweater to the tricolor?

      It is not good to disrespect the national flag of brotherly Belarus.
      1. baltiksi
        baltiksi 6 November 2021 17: 58
        -2
        Why is it so disrespectful to treat the flag of a potential ally? I think that the flag or banner of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia, and this is not today's Lithuania, all will be older than your tricolor, so for 300 years. And so you are there, Russians, dream. Build plans. And nothing more to talk with this AHL, you will not have. T.K. comrade lies as he breathes. Everyone around has already understood. Some of you still believe in this fairy tale about the Union State. Well, here's the Flag in your hands ---- haha ​​Union.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 19: 10
          +1
          Quote: baltiksi
          about the flag or banner of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia,

          Have you read fantasy books?
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 17
          0
          you, the 13-14 century with the modern 21, do not confuse there are no these states and pseudo historical symbolism complete nonsense of idiots who do not know history
        3. poquello
          poquello 6 November 2021 20: 16
          0
          Quote: baltiksi
          I think that the flag or banner of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russian

          ) I don’t think so, the Lithuanians have a knight, nevertheless it would be interesting to know the history of this stripe from a sweater
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 42
            -1
            Quote: poquello
            it would be interesting to know the history of this sweater strip

            She migrated from the flag of the BSSR, here ...
            According to Wiki:
            In 1945, the USSR, Belarus (BSSR) and Ukraine (Ukrainian SSR) became the founding countries of the UN. Since their flags were almost indistinguishable from each other and from the flags of other Soviet republics, it was decided to change the flags of the republics. On January 20, 1947, the Resolution of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR "On the state flags of the union republics" was issued:

            To recognize it expedient to amend the current state flags of the union republics so that the state flag of the union republic reflects the idea of ​​the union Soviet state (placing the emblem of the USSR on the flag of the USSR - a sickle and a hammer, a five-pointed star, preservation of red) and national characteristics of the republic (introduction of other colors, the order of their arrangement, the inclusion of national ornament).

            On the basis of this Resolution, in 1951, the Academy of Sciences of the BSSR, on behalf of the Supreme Council of the republic, began developing the flag. In fact, of all the flags of the union republics, only in it was used the national ornament, which made the flag look unusual and relatively advantageous. This ornament, embroidered by a peasant woman of Vitebsk province MS Markevich (be: Matrona Syargeyna Markevich) (nee Katser) in 1917 and later named "The Rising Sun", was found by her brother, art critic MS Katser [be] in the archives Of the Council of Industrial Cooperation of the BSSR and used by the artist Mikhail Ivanovich Gusev.
            1. poquello
              poquello 7 November 2021 00: 53
              0
              Quote: Lara Croft
              This ornament, embroidered by a peasant woman from Vitebsk province

              you look, you almost guessed it)
              Quote: poquello
              sweater stripes
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 6 November 2021 22: 35
        -1
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        It is not good to disrespect the national flag of brotherly Belarus.

        What will happen?
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 6 November 2021 21: 59
      -1
      Quote: poquello
      Is it possible to sew a vertical strip from a sweater to the tricolor?

      Your comment is drawn to ideological sabotage. Here.
      1. poquello
        poquello 7 November 2021 01: 02
        0
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Quote: poquello
        Is it possible to sew a vertical strip from a sweater to the tricolor?

        Your comment is drawn to ideological sabotage. Here.

        )))))
        Quote: poquello
        but what room for activity
  3. Wanderer_GO
    Wanderer_GO 6 November 2021 14: 00
    +7
    Wow, as in Krylov's fable ... not with that you guys start ... not with that!
    1. poquello
      poquello 6 November 2021 14: 11
      0
      Quote: Strannik_GO
      Wow, as in Krylov's fable ... not with that you guys start ... not with that!

      but what room for activity
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 6 November 2021 15: 15
      -1
      Quote: Strannik_GO
      Wow, as in Krylov's fable ... not with that you guys start ... not with that!

      And for you, wherever you start, everything will be "wrong"
  4. Old ensign
    Old ensign 6 November 2021 14: 00
    -5
    how wonderful it is! Lukashenko has been fooling Russia for 30 years, and everyone believes him. And how much more you can think of. And a common flag and a common anthem and a common toilet paper. Go for it !!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 27
      0
      Quote: Old ensign
      And a common flag and a common anthem and a common toilet paper.

      You would need a wagon of toilet paper, you have a lot of this ... to wipe.
  5. Andrey Moskvin
    Andrey Moskvin 6 November 2021 14: 01
    +4
    Bear chewing potatoes.
    1. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 14: 04
      0
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Bear chewing potatoes.

      Smiled! good
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 6 November 2021 14: 09
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Bear chewing potatoes.

      The bear is a well-known opportunist. Everything is useful that crawled into your mouth. © There is even a fairy tale about tops and roots.
  6. ultra
    ultra 6 November 2021 14: 03
    +2
    What to develop there? You just need to return the symbols of the USSR.
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 6 November 2021 14: 11
      +7
      Quote: ultra
      What to develop there? You just need to return the symbols of the USSR.

      You just need to return the USSR good
      1. ultra
        ultra 6 November 2021 14: 44
        -1
        Quote: Mitroha
        You just need to return the USSR

        The USSR was built on ideology, its basis was the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. I do not think that it is possible, and it is advisable to restore. But to restore the union of the Slavic republics of the USSR is quite realistic, despite all the problems with Ukraine.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 15: 17
          +2
          Quote: ultra
          The USSR was built on ideology, its basis was the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. I do not think that it is possible, and it is advisable to restore. But to restore the union of the Slavic republics of the USSR is quite realistic, despite all the problems with Ukraine.

          The essence and power of the USSR was not in the aggregate of republics (and not only Slavic ones), but in the socialist system of life and management, including planning.
          The nouveau riches and yachts will be sold and mercenaries will be found to prevent a return.
          And the damned will help them (remember the intervention in the civil war).

          The return should be smooth and, in my opinion, Lukashenka is the most suitable for its implementation. He has experience in maintaining socialist elements in market conditions.
          1. Ilya Nikitich
            Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 23: 21
            -2
            The essence and power of the USSR was not in the aggregate of republics (and not only Slavic ones), but in the socialist system of life and management, including planning.

            Yes, and the reason for the collapse was
            in the socialist system of life and management, including planning
        2. mitroha
          mitroha 6 November 2021 17: 04
          0
          Quote: ultra
          The USSR was built on ideology

          My friend, I have highlighted point, on which the USSR stood. Our people really is like that, a believer, and when people are united by a common goal, they are inseparable and will tear everyone apart. And it doesn't matter if they are Orthodox or Muslims, or maybe Buddhists. The main thing is MOTHERLAND, and FAMILY, the rest is secondary
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 6 November 2021 20: 37
            +1
            And do not tell me, so who all the same destroyed the USSR, not otherwise sleepwalkers with Martians ??? fellow And who came to his defense, what kind of people, do you remember ??? fellow
            So the people, they are also different.
            1. mitroha
              mitroha 6 November 2021 21: 55
              0
              Quote: Ros 56
              The USSR collapsed, not otherwise sleepwalkers with the Martians ???

              The type with a birthmark on his head, does he remind you of anyone? am
              What could the people decide?
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 7 November 2021 13: 31
                +1
                What kind of country was this if one, even with a stain, was able to destroy it ??? fellow Think wrong.
            2. mitroha
              mitroha 7 November 2021 09: 44
              0

              Golden words drinks
      2. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 24
        -1
        alex, it is for you Putin with a friend Rotenberg will return the USSR, straight bees against honey
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 6 November 2021 21: 58
          0
          I do not quite understand what Putin has to do with it, and even with Rotenberg, this one has to do with it?
      3. Ilya Nikitich
        Ilya Nikitich 6 November 2021 23: 18
        -2
        Whoever does not regret the collapse of the USSR has no heart, whoever wants the revival of the USSR has no head ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 33
      -1
      Quote: ultra
      What to develop there? You just need to return the symbols of the USSR.

      It would be nice
      a howl will rise from the "Echo of Moscow" "Dozhd" "Meduza", bulkheads, sobchashek "and the entire liberal-democratic flock. They will start this" p ........ "

      ..... there is not enough toilet paper in all of Russia.
  7. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 November 2021 14: 07
    0
    within the framework of integration processes, it is not currently planned to switch to a single currency

    Who knows - in Belarus you can buy goods for Russian rubles, in principle? We are for the Belarusian, hardly ... recourse
    1. Sergey Nikiforov
      Sergey Nikiforov 6 November 2021 14: 14
      +1
      You can, on the card True, the commission will be removed
    2. poquello
      poquello 6 November 2021 14: 15
      0
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      We are for the Belarusian, hardly ...

      here, as elsewhere, in the bank you change and comrade
    3. your1970
      your1970 6 November 2021 14: 33
      0
      Well, if you look hard, you might find ...
      And so in the bazaars our rubles do not take ...
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 6 November 2021 18: 39
        0
        Quote: your1970
        And so in the bazaars our rubles do not take ...

        Yeah. It is clear that you cannot buy a roll in a store. And they don't take them at the bazaars, which means ... Well, okay, that's how it should be, I guess. They say that in Turkey (or Egypt?) You can pay with rubles. But there is a different story ...
  8. Sergey Nikiforov
    Sergey Nikiforov 6 November 2021 14: 13
    0
    In the summer I had a rest in a sanatorium in Belarus. Well, you know, there’s a lot of communication from the region. So, well, I didn’t see the enthusiasm of the inhabitants of Belarus from such integration.
    1. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 14: 24
      +6
      Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
      In the summer I had a rest in a sanatorium in Belarus. Well, you know, there’s a lot of communication from the region. So, well, I didn’t see the enthusiasm of the inhabitants of Belarus from such integration.

      People are afraid that our Deripaska will come and begin to rip apart what they have so hard preserved and multiplied. And so, in general, the people are ready to unite - the events with the cutlet showed that help can only come from Russia. If you decide to spread rot: my wife is Belarusian and, of course, we have a lot of relatives there ...
      1. Sergey Nikiforov
        Sergey Nikiforov 6 November 2021 16: 05
        -3
        And what did they save.? Passing BelAZ in Zhodino, I saw empty courtyards, although everything was forced before. People on electric trains swear at the authorities. Our half-impoverished reality.?
      2. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 6 November 2021 17: 43
        -4
        Quote: isv000
        And so, in general, the people are ready to unite

        Officer's Daughter lol ... Look at the social. polls about "integration" over the past years, be surprised.
        I would suggest new ones, but what can I do, the scary "powerful" authorities to carry them out are prohibited.
        Better yet, come and ask on the street. Only now you have to get out of your hurray little world.
      3. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 31
        -1
        decor, you are right no one needs Deripaska, Seluanov, Putin, etc. and so on, but ordinary people have to be silent for now
        1. your1970
          your1970 6 November 2021 21: 54
          -1
          Quote: Ryaruav
          decor, you are right no one needs Deripaska, Seluanov, Putin, etc. and so on, but ordinary people have to be silent for now

          Do you naively think - that Belarus does not have its own ????
          Quote: Black5Raven
          Look at the social. polls about "integration" over the past years, be surprised.
          - you will have to forget about the "Pole's card" - quite understandable reason for dissatisfaction
  9. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 6 November 2021 14: 19
    +10
    It became known about the development of the symbols of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus

    Don't bother!
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 November 2021 14: 19
    +8
    And what is there to come up with? Everything was invented for a long time.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 6 November 2021 14: 36
      +3
      Quote: Captive
      And what is there to come up with? Everything was invented for a long time.

      Yes, well thought up! I am also not against this symbolism. Do you represent the banner and coat of arms of the USSR on the yachts of Russian oligarchs? wassat laughing
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 6 November 2021 14: 42
        +4
        laughing I represent yachts. Oligarchs can’t.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 6 November 2021 14: 38
      +3
      And what to do with those that frame the ears? Russia and Belarus are clear. And 14 more.
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 6 November 2021 14: 43
        +7
        winked Paint over. Temporarily.
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 6 November 2021 14: 54
          +1
          Quote: Captive
          winked Paint over. Temporarily.
          laughing good Five points!
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 36
          -1
          ayrat, to your regret, there should never be any more international in relation to the Russian people, go to the amers there on welfare for four generations
          1. Prisoner
            Prisoner 6 November 2021 20: 01
            +1
            You express your thoughts in a strange way. Hard to understand. what It looks like you had to learn Russian at a mature age. And we can go to amers with our internationals except by the directive of the General Staff. ps I have never lived on handouts and am not going to live on them. Tea is not Baltic and not wheat. laughing I used to pay for my whiskey myself. hi
            1. Ryaruav
              Ryaruav 6 November 2021 20: 06
              -4
              ayrat, everything is clear when the Russians whistle in full, yes, since the capture of Berlin, then you will understand what you were doing in 1990
              1. Prisoner
                Prisoner 6 November 2021 20: 10
                +3
                what Maybe you'd better post in English? Why are you suffering?
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 6 November 2021 14: 57
        +3
        Why 14? 13.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 6 November 2021 15: 07
          -1
          And if you count carefully, the proposed option, then on the left 8 on the right 7 and the RSFSR at the bottom. It is necessary to delve into the history of who was the 16th. hi
          1. serg.shishkov2015
            serg.shishkov2015 6 November 2021 15: 13
            +3
            And this is not the Karelo-Finnish SSR for an hour? At VDNKh, its symbol, it seems, is still there!
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 6 November 2021 15: 15
              -1
              Everything can be, wait, I'll see.
            2. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 6 November 2021 15: 19
              +1
              Yes, you are right, this is the coat of arms until 1956, when the Karelo-Finnish Republic became part of the RSFSR.
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 6 November 2021 17: 32
                +3
                Yes, it was the most artificial union republic. With a population of less than a million people, with a predominantly Russian population and a small percentage of Karelians, Finns, Vepsians. It is interesting that four years after its formation, in 1944, Vyborg and the territories of the Karelian Isthmus (formerly part of the territory of Finland and in 1940 transferred to the USSR and included in the KFSSR) were transferred to the Leningrad Region of the RSFSR. Both the territory and the population of the KFSSR decreased, but the status of a union republic remained. In general, it existed for 16 years. It would be abolished sooner or later. There is a version that one of the reasons for its transformation into the Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic precisely in 1956 was not only the desire to improve relations with Finland, but also the desire to partially smooth over the dissatisfaction of many residents of the RSFSR with the transfer of Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR.
          2. Ryaruav
            Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 40
            0
            fishermen for such 175 days shkeder fish about what story they need to plow their share, sorry in the ussr no one forced you to go fishermen themselves
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 6 November 2021 19: 49
              0
              Firstly, not 175 days, 164 is the maximum in the USSR, longer only after the general meeting of the ship. And where I complained about fishing life. If they gave a second life, I would go to sea again. The main plus, you are deprived of all these problems of coastal life and family My wife received a fixed part of my salary every month. And now, in general, you can receive up to 80% of my husband's salary at sea. And even when getting the press at sea, there was a queue for the monthly filing of newspapers and magazines.
              1. Ryaruav
                Ryaruav 6 November 2021 20: 11
                0
                in the announcement of all trawl and oceanic fishing bases in the baltic, this figure appeared, in the 80s they flew callao and las palmas to the Canary Islands or Dakar in Peru
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 6 November 2021 20: 16
                  0
                  Rampant Aires, sunny Angola (be it wrong), Havana (not for nothing), Faroe Islands, Halifax, this is to your list, the port of the fleet where I worked.
                  1. Ryaruav
                    Ryaruav 6 November 2021 20: 24
                    0
                    Andrey, I did not hear Halifax, I went to the Murmansk shipping company, but even 147 days I consider a mockery of a white man, poor families In Havana, there was a soldier on a passenger
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 6 November 2021 21: 11
                      0
                      I apologize, not Halifax, but St. John's. On a merchant ship, mockery? Mockery is when 161 days without calling and three days for calling. Although Ulfish Bay calls for unloading every 25 days, during the flight 21 days came over.
      3. isv000
        isv000 6 November 2021 19: 40
        0
        Quote: tralflot1832
        And what to do with those that frame the ears? Russia and Belarus are clear. And 14 more.

        We will accept on a competitive basis, depending on who proposes what for the development of the Union. To forget about subsidies to everyone - came to the family - be useful, invest in the development of general well-being and security!
        1. your1970
          your1970 6 November 2021 22: 04
          +1
          Quote: isv000
          We will accept on a competitive basis, depending on who proposes what for the development of the Union

          Is there a crowd of people willing?
          Quote: isv000
          Forget about subsidies to everyone -

          Even Belarus does not go well without them, and all the rest will definitely not go
  11. Observer2014
    Observer2014 6 November 2021 14: 21
    -6
    It became known about the development of the symbols of the Union State of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus
    Well, the flag is okay. Something will come up. A set of colors or not a set. But the emblem!? It's fun to dream up. A two-headed eagle in the aura of wheat ears? bully And instead of eagle's heads, the images of our presidents! belay And above them, instead of a zveede, the image of Kolya .............. laughing
    What else will they tell us about the union state and now we will unite?
  12. Fitter65
    Fitter65 6 November 2021 14: 28
    +4
    Moreover, Mezentsev noted that it would not necessarily be the emblem of the SG.
    At first, you can still flag.
    Everyone will be very happy and every member of the Union State has such a color on the national flag.
    1. da Vinci
      da Vinci 6 November 2021 15: 16
      +6
      Considering how GDP hates
      USSR, it is unlikely.
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 42
        +2
        da vinci, that's right, he was a condom and still is
        1. da Vinci
          da Vinci 7 November 2021 11: 09
          +1
          When in some media they write that the GDP is re-creating the USSR, they draw a hammer and sickle for it, then this no longer causes laughter, but pity for the writer (put the stress yourself).
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 November 2021 15: 41
      -5
      This is a symbol of communism - and there is none in Russia or Belarus. I suggest a two-headed eagle on a pile of potatoes.
  13. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 6 November 2021 14: 35
    +2
    Why break your ears? - they will develop the symbolism, and we'll see there.
    One thing is clear, now the crackling will go and howls will be heard from Brussels to Washington.
  14. fa2998
    fa2998 6 November 2021 14: 36
    -3
    Quote: isv000
    Father needs to be planted on the farm,

    The national debt of Belarus is over $ 18 billion, and most of it is Russia. Moreover, it is unpaid! As if in a single state "pull up the social sphere", which Kremlin to go to. "Father's economy" lives on Russian money. hi
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 15: 57
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      The national debt of Belarus is over $ 18 billion, and most of it is Russia. Moreover, it is unpaid! As if in a single state "pull up the social sphere", which Kremlin to go to. "Father's economy" lives on Russian money.

      Wrong.
      Public debt is loans. Interest loans. Targeted.
      Name, PLZ, a country that does not have a public debt. hi
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 6 November 2021 16: 22
        -2
        Well, of course, you write a lot of things correctly, BUT IF I CONSTANTLY TAKE A DEBT FROM A NEIGHBOR, AND THEN I WILL OFFER HIM TO LIVE with a joint budget, and forget the old, what would you say to the debtor (except for the mat) lol wink
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 6 November 2021 19: 42
          0
          Quote: fa2998
          IF I CONSTANTLY TAKE A DEBT FROM THE NEIGHBOR, AND THEN I OFFER HIM TO LIVE with a joint budget, and forget the old, what would you say to the debtor (except for the mat)

          If you have infa about a desire / proposal / request to zero credit debts, - share links, PLZ. Otherwise, the conversation is pointless. hi
        2. isv000
          isv000 6 November 2021 19: 44
          -1
          Quote: fa2998
          Well, of course, you write a lot of things correctly, BUT IF I CONSTANTLY TAKE A DEBT FROM A NEIGHBOR, AND THEN I WILL OFFER HIM TO LIVE with a joint budget, and forget the old, what would you say to the debtor (except for the mat)

          If I give a loan to a neighbor, and then we decided to live together, then when do I have to demand money from her, before the wedding or after, what else could I drag by the hair ?!
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 7 November 2021 00: 04
            -1
            Quote: isv000
            If I give a loan to a neighbor, and then we decided to live together, then when do I have to demand money from her, before the wedding or after, what else could I drag by the hair ?!

            But you are still a capitalist and you still grow strawberries on an industrial scale ...
            So it will be like this: you
            I lend to my neighbor
            а
            pull by the hair
            it will be Krasnoyarsk. laughing
      2. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 6 November 2021 17: 44
        -5
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Debt is loans. Interest loans. Targeted.

        To pay off these loans, new loans are already needed.
        And not only them, but a percentage of them. And 18 mln. it is only the external public debt, and the internal one is even more beautiful.
  15. samarin1969
    samarin1969 6 November 2021 14: 54
    +1
    Abroad will not help them ... laughing

    This "union long-term construction" is already a quarter of a century old, and "serious uncles" are drawing flags. And what an exotic terminology: "decrees", "state secretary", "houses of representatives"! ... Does anyone (except Ugolnikov) take this "political fantasy" seriously?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 6 November 2021 17: 42
      +3
      For Belarusians, these terms are by no means exotic. They have two chambers in their parliament: the lower, but really more powerful, directly elected House of Representatives, and the upper, elected by regional councils and the city council of Minsk, the Council of the Republic. From each regional council and from the Minsk city council, 8 members of the Council of the Republic. Plus 8 members of the Council of the Republic are appointed by the President. And the Belarusian President issues documents of three types: Decrees, Decrees and Directives. The Presidential Decree is lower in status than the Law of Belarus, but higher than the Presidential Decree.) That is, in matters of union terminology, the Russian Federation is more likely to adapt to Belarus.)
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 6 November 2021 18: 00
        +2
        Thank you. Lucidly. good
  16. singless
    singless 6 November 2021 15: 02
    +2
    everything was invented before us. it's time to uncover the coat of arms of the USSR.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 6 November 2021 15: 19
      +1
      In Minsk, the Coat of arms of the BSSR was never covered
      1. isv000
        isv000 6 November 2021 19: 49
        +1
        Quote: AlexGa
        In Minsk, the Coat of arms of the BSSR was never covered

        In my garage in a place of honor hangs the coat of arms of the USSR, framed with dried ears! Bronze chasing, periodically polishing it so that it would shine. I can borrow for the City Council, but not for the Administration or the Council! hi
  17. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 6 November 2021 15: 14
    -2
    Commenting on the signing of agreements as part of the integration process, the President of Belarus jokingly complained that Vladimir Putin "did not take him with him to Crimea."

    So I would have called Grigorich that Crimea is part of the Union State of Russia and Belarus.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 6 November 2021 15: 19
      +3
      So I would have called Grigorich that Crimea is part of the Union State of Russia and Belarus.
      Aha! SchaZ! He will call and acknowledge. Wait. Pennies must be earned. Gref will not let you lie.
    2. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 19: 51
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      So I would have called Grigorich that Crimea is part of the Union State of Russia and Belarus.

      If Old Man took a plane after VVP, to Sevastopol, that would be a number! Maybe Putin didn’t order it until the time is right?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 November 2021 21: 27
        0
        Quote: isv000
        Maybe Putin didn’t order it until it’s time?

        The stream must be certified, and there you can drink "Crimean Playful" in Sevastopol, "to the delight of the Sumerians."
  18. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 6 November 2021 15: 28
    0
    "Lukashenko joked that V. Putin did not take him with him to Crimea." Because he didn’t take it because it was indecent to beg, because there were invitations, and more than once. I think he would not have gone.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 November 2021 16: 36
      +1
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      I think he would not have gone.

      If he went, then svidomye it will be included in the sanctions. Something is twisting Grigorich.
      1. isv000
        isv000 6 November 2021 19: 57
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        If he went, then svidomye it will be included in the sanctions. Something is twisting Grigorich.

        They both twist something, stir up - in the good sense of the word - but something tells me that from what they cook, the West and the striped ones will have heartburn for a long time ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 6 November 2021 21: 25
          +1
          Quote: isv000
          but something tells me that from what they cook, the West and the striped ones will have heartburn for a long time ...

          They cook, life makes.
  19. Hindu
    Hindu 6 November 2021 15: 35
    +3
    Quote: isv000
    Quote: serg.shishkov2015
    Do you remember WHAT was sung there? We will destroy the whole world of VIOLENCE ,,,, Do you like the world of violence?

    Who will determine the degree of violence - that is the question, Cheka?

    Oh, it started. Well, how can you not drag in a bogey - Cheka! Take an interest, at least superficially, how, when, under what circumstances and for what purposes this commission was created. Otherwise, with your logic, it will be necessary to ban the number 37 ...
    1. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 19: 58
      0
      Quote: Hindu
      Ask, at least superficially, how, when, under what circumstances and for what purposes this commission was created.

      For the expropriation of values ​​from the exploiters ...
  20. Hindu
    Hindu 6 November 2021 15: 41
    +1
    Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
    In the summer I had a rest in a sanatorium in Belarus. Well, you know, there’s a lot of communication from the region. So, well, I didn’t see the enthusiasm of the inhabitants of Belarus from such integration.

    They are quite understandable.
  21. Olkhovsky
    Olkhovsky 6 November 2021 15: 43
    +1
    If we really unite, it will be even more important than the annexation of Crimea.
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 6 November 2021 19: 50
      +2
      Olkhovsky, I'm with you, but to give all sorts of dog females in the face of fat cats sitting on the necks of Russia, these female dogs will tear everything in Belarus, it will be some kind of Rogozin's son to strangle the same tractor plant
      1. Olkhovsky
        Olkhovsky 6 November 2021 20: 05
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        these female dogs all in Belarus will be torn apart by some kind of Rogozin's son to strangle the same tractor plant

        So yes ... But these female dogs - coming and going, and the Kremlin elder with a mustache, not eternal ... And our people will be together, this is more important.
    2. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 20: 03
      -1
      Quote: Olkhovsky
      If we really unite, it will be even more important than the annexation of Crimea.

      Unification is inevitable: attempts to fry cutlets in Minsk have shown that the sovereign security of Belarus directly depends on Russia. The standing of the special forces on the border with a cold shower cooled the flaming pro-Western hearts, as well as the deployed military units were left in the barracks of NATO soldiers ... hi
    3. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 7 November 2021 00: 13
      -3
      Quote: Olkhovsky
      If we really unite, it will be even more important than the annexation of Crimea.

      More important to whom? In terms of losses, yes ...
  22. JD1979
    JD1979 6 November 2021 16: 02
    +7
    Wow, how excited everyone is))) drink valerian and breathe calmly) There will be no NewUSSR. Russia is a capitalist state, period. How many times did VVP tell you about this in plain text? Does your memory fail or is your hearing selective? Here yonder blue blood comes to get married under the guard of honor))) the estates are looking after with the slaves, and you are talking about the country of the proletarians))) You, gentlemen of the proletariat, flew by with plywood, there will be no new revolution, and there are no communists, and the wrong ones have not appointed the EP for that purpose. in the elections))) so that then once and change everything, everyone is on trial for treason and sabotage as before, in one highly developed country))) Do you really believe in fairy tales or are you already falling into childhood?
    1. isv000
      isv000 6 November 2021 20: 09
      +1
      Quote: JD1979
      Wow, how excited everyone is))) drink valerian and breathe calmly) There will be no NewUSSR. Russia is a capitalist state, period. How many times did VVP tell you about this in plain text?

      "New" is not necessary. It is enough to take everything useful from the Soviet model with the cooperative movement and the Chinese model, return industry and energy to the jurisdiction of Russia and tighten up all the gilded Fabergés.
    2. alystan
      alystan 6 November 2021 22: 27
      0
      Do you suggest that we all put up with all this disgrace, wipe ourselves off and not even dream of anything good?
  23. Carat
    Carat 6 November 2021 16: 25
    -2
    What's the new flag and coat of arms? You compare the size of Russia and Belarus, and at the same time the population.
    There is definitely a Russian flag and coat of arms.
  24. baltiksi
    baltiksi 6 November 2021 17: 18
    -1
    You are naive Russians. This "dad" leader of an organized crime group in the Republic of Belarus, for him the Constitution, is like a prostitute, "because sometimes it's not up to the laws." the accession of blue-furred, and this is 1996, corruption crimes have increased tenfold. He has the President's Fund, which is out of budget. How is that? Do you also have an off-budget fund in Russia? As a citizen of the Republic of Belarus, I doubt it. And if yours also has such a fund, then it's an ass for everyone. In general, hello. Take off your pink glasses, everything will be better.
  25. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 6 November 2021 17: 46
    -2
    Given the equal status, but at the same time, different sizes of the members of the Union (the difference in population is 15 times, and in the territory more than 80 times), the Russian element in the symbolism should be somewhere three-quarters, and the Belarusian one.)
  26. evgen1221
    evgen1221 6 November 2021 18: 50
    +2
    It was 2021 - After many years of discussions, summits, summits and propaganda to unite, Indian Joe saw that the prison did not have one wall, that is, that even the symbolism did not even begin to think. Ok, which proves that with the unification, no one was seriously going to be engaged at all, and until the rooster in the form of a light pecked, no one even scratched.
  27. Sasha1979
    Sasha1979 7 November 2021 05: 42
    0
    I will also suggest a hymn. The music coincides with the anthem of the Russian Federation. The words are earlier (for example, 1944).
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  29. zenion
    zenion 7 November 2021 18: 33
    +1
    Of course there should be. A two-headed eagle holding a potato in one paw.
  30. bbss
    bbss 8 November 2021 00: 23
    0
    Why develop it? Flag and coat of arms of the USSR !!!
  31. Gunter prereen
    Gunter prereen 8 November 2021 11: 21
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    I suggest the following option. Four arms! On the one hand, there are two rui givers, on the other hand, one receiving hand, and the other holding a fig behind his back.
  32. Freedim
    Freedim 8 November 2021 12: 50
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    ...over time:
    After signing the relevant documents, Alexander Grigorievich wiped the sweat from his forehead and, exhaling noisily, leaned back in his chair.
    - Phew .. Crimea is ours! ..