Kiev hopes that the Royal Thai Navy will purchase Ukrainian command and staff vehicles based on the BTR-4KSh

Ukraine has completed the development of a new command and staff vehicle for Thailand, a prototype KSHM BTR-4KSh assembled at the Kiev Armored Plant. Reportedly, the development of KShM based on the Ukrainian armored personnel carrier BTR-4V was ordered by the Royal Thai Navy.

Kiev hopes that the Royal Thai Navy will purchase Ukrainian command and staff vehicles based on the BTR-4KSH. According to the press service of the developer, the new product will be presented to the customer on November 12, and the shipment is scheduled for early December. When assembling the KShM, technical documentation was used, developed in 2020 by the specialists of the Kiev BTZ.

Details of the development have not been disclosed, it is reported that the new BTR-4KSh is equipped with a combat module "Iva-M", a combat control system, a video surveillance system and driver assistance. The department of management and communications is designed to accommodate eight people.

Note that earlier Thailand purchased from Ukraine only the BTR-3 armored personnel carriers, developed on the basis of the BTR-80. In total, under three contracts in 2007, 2011 and 2013, Thailand contracted a total of 244 BTR-3E1s of various modifications. For the Thai Ground Forces, a KShM was also developed on the basis of the BTR-3 - BTR-3KSh (BTR-3CS) or ACPC-01.

Royal the fleet Thailand, Ukraine has offered a KShM based on the BTR-4, this is not the first time Kiev is trying to attach this armored personnel carrier. Earlier in Ukraine, they created a version of the BTR-4M for the Indonesian marines, but the Indonesians refused it after a series of tests, preferring to negotiate with Russia on the purchase of the BT-3F. Instead of a batch of 50 vehicles, Kiev managed to sell only an initial batch of five vehicles.

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[poquello]

bt-3f, damn head broke what kind of btr-3f

[Bad_gr]

Quote: poquello

bt-3f, damn head broke what kind of btr-3f

BT-3F (based on BMP-3)

It became known that on April 22, in Jakarta, the Indonesian Defense Ministry and Rosoboronexport signed another contract worth $ 175,2 million.
According to it, the Indonesian marines will receive 22 BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles and 21 BT-3F tracked armored personnel carriers. It can be emphasized that Indonesia became the first foreign customer of BT-3F armored personnel carriers, created specifically for the marines. In fact, the marines of this country already have more than fifty BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles in service. The letter "F" means - naval. The machines have proven to be reliable, have great firepower and are stable in the water even in rough seas ........

https://rg.ru/2019/04/23/indoneziia-pervoj-v-mire-zakupila-bronetransportery-bt-3f.html

[poquello]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: poquello

bt-3f, damn head broke what kind of btr-3f

BT-3F (based on BMP-3)

this outsource has already been corrected

[militarist63]

The author in general, along the way, is "very literate" in BTT! Right off the bat, we read the following nonsense in the title:

Kiev hopes that the Royal Thai Navy will purchase Ukrainian command and staff vehicles based on the BTR-4KSh

Further in the text again (1 in 1) repeats such crap ... Actually, the BTR-4KSh is this very command and staff vehicle (KShM), which is based on the BTR-4 (without any KSh) !!!

[Murmur 55]

Yes, other people's mistakes do not teach anything, well, let Thailand learn from its own.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Murmur 55

Yes, other people's mistakes do not teach anything, well, let Thailand learn from its own.

What's the problem? And we and they have one school, one touch on the USSR, it’s funny to read the comments that ours is better, but they have it all, if you criticize, then explain. And enough of this clumsy propaganda. I'm tired of it.

[Murmur 55]

Indonesia got burned, they wrote that the problem with housings and electronics was why they refused.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Murmur 55

Indonesia got burned, they wrote that the problem with housings and electronics was why they refused.

It happens. When it was? Probably, they took it into account and corrected it, and their technique is no worse than ours. Count how many armored vehicles are currently in the Russian army, everyone is trying to snatch their piece. And we are all laughing!

[Victor Tsenin]

The key word is probably. But in fact, the low quality of workmanship and materials unfavorably distinguishes the equipment of Ukraine. I am not an idealist, I do not think that a product of the Russian Federation is a priori better than anything else, but facts speak best. If you were interested, you would be familiar with the specifics, and did not ask examples of which the ninth wave, starting with degenerate tanks, partly from something incomprehensible, and ending with Shame-B.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

The key word is probably. But in fact, the low quality of workmanship and materials unfavorably distinguishes the equipment of Ukraine. I am not an idealist, I do not think that a product of the Russian Federation is a priori better than anything else, but facts speak best. If you were interested, you would be familiar with the specifics, and did not ask examples of which the ninth wave, starting with degenerate tanks, partly from something incomprehensible, and ending with Shame-B.

Then we will probably continue. They painted it under Khokhloma, but how the Royal Union was, it remained, cartoons were shown, the SU-57 did not help, the stupid Poseidons, all the more so, what's next? Yes, a sevenfold economic miracle of a model made of plasticine and sticks, that's a shame, cleaner than proto-ukry, and this is against the background of a tryndezh about unparalleled!

[Victor Tsenin]

Now pay attention to what exactly you dragged in. Let the Union, albeit under a crazy Khokhloma, but a reliable launch vehicle for general tasks is available.
Now the Su-57, it is being developed, produced, it is a wonderful MFI of the future.
We turn to Poseidons, they are never stupid, I strongly disagree with the opinion of many, the tool has many possibilities for use, they have already polemized on this in a thematic article.

I don't know where you found it and what the economic miracle has to do with it, but the dialogue was not about that at all, but the so-called. a blown miracle is still waiting for its owner.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

We turn to Poseidons, they are never stupid, I strongly disagree with the opinion of many, the tool has many possibilities for use, they have already polemized on this in a thematic article.

Then tell me how, in the absence of access to the world's oceans, can this crap be used? All exits are taxed and visible.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: lis-ik

All exits are taxed and visible.

Let us praise Klimov, brothers and sisters! After all, everything that He speaks is the Truth! And whoever does not heed His word, then he is a climate-opposing heretic and is subject to Timohinathem!

[lis-ik]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: lis-ik

All exits are taxed and visible.

Let us praise Klimov, brothers and sisters! After all, everything that he utters is the Truth! And whoever does not heed His word, then he is a climate-opposing heretic and is subject to Timohinathem!

Geography is visible even without Klimov.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

All exits are taxed and visible.

Do you know for sure? Or was it said in His gospel, and it is a sin to doubt it?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: lis-ik

Geography is visible even without Klimov.

That is, the carrier of "Poseidons" will launch them only from the home port, and you do not allow other locations of the nuclear submarine (carrier of "Poseidons")?

[Victor Tsenin]

Again you were not interested, please read the thematic articles. Poseidon still can, because there are no prohibitive means for such depth and speed. And if converted into a global underwater reconnaissance / gunner, a very useful robot. I do not see it as a means of delivering a weapon TH to me adequate to realities.

[poquello]

Quote: lis-ik

Quote: Victor Tsenin

We turn to Poseidons, they are never stupid, I strongly disagree with the opinion of many, the tool has many possibilities for use, they have already polemized on this in a thematic article.

Then tell me how, in the absence of access to the world's oceans, can this crap be used? All exits are taxed and visible.

have you already been informed? bourgeois in Mediterranean they can't find the boat, but they overlaid everything, my

[gurzuf]

Who overlaid it? You probably meant those whose pl crashed into the seabed?
So they did not impose, but - screwed up... And this, as they say in Odessa, is not the same thing.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: lis-ik

Probably taken into account and corrected

What prerequisites have appeared for this? Renovation of the production base at the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, when was it produced? Maybe under what president of Ukraine there were large investments in R&D ...? Where to come from .....

and so their technique is no worse than ours

Is this why Ukraine is ahead of the Russian Federation in terms of the sale of B and BT?

Count how many armored vehicles are currently in the Russian army

Do you have access to such information?

And we are all laughing!

Only "ancient Sumerians" have the right to laugh?

[kot423]

Quote: lis-ik

What's the problem?

Ask Iraq and Indonesia, they will tell you for a long time with Russian obscenities about this (not just KSHM, but in general the 4th model) the craft will be.

[lis-ik]

Quote: kot423

Quote: lis-ik

What's the problem?

Ask Iraq and Indonesia, they will tell you for a long time with Russian obscenities about this (not just KSHM, but in general the 4th model) the craft will be.

I answered above.

[kot423]

Quote: lis-ik

Above I answered

Those. the fact that the land variant in Iraq burst at the seams, and in Indonesia the amphibious one, like a submarine, went into the water with its nose - this is "why, you think, what little things?" Nu-nu, ukram flag in hand, a drum on his neck and with a howl "has not yet died" in front of a steam locomotive from Thailand to beg "well buy" ...

[lis-ik]

Quote: kot423

Quote: lis-ik

What's the problem?

Ask Iraq and Indonesia, they will tell you for a long time with Russian obscenities about this (not just KSHM, but in general the 4th model) the craft will be.

How did you decide that they are there, but we do not? Probably because almost 40 percent of the military-industrial complex of the USSR was located on the territory of Ukraine, or did you think that high-class workers and engineers would not be able to create an armored car? Maybe you decided that you are not familiar with the elementary laws of the natural sciences there? That all Soviet education and science went sideways? Or do you really believe that there is a secret of nuclear weapons, there is none, there is only the country's potential for enrichment and factories for its production. They can do everything, they are the same as we are, educated, taught and can do anything if they wish and have the means. Stop carrying the blizzard about the ancient proto-ukr!

[kot423]

Quote: lis-ik

They can do everything, they are the same as we are, educated, taught and can do anything

Exactly! Only you, either naively or foolishly, are missing an important point: educated specialist ukraine scientific , and that is why he moved to permanent residence in Russia or another country. And the fact that raguli can rivet has been highlighted all over the world more than once, starting with "Azov", "hammer", "shame b", and further down the list. You don't have to go far, yesterday on VO there was an article about the buildings of the 4th series - there are a lot of photos of workshops - Our Armenian tire changer looks ten times more technologically advanced.
I bow out for this, there is no desire to discuss with a person who, not seeing the obvious, is trying to whitewash various bullshit here (which was recognized as bullshit by several countries, including the United States (it was they who imposed and gave loot to the Iraqis for the 4th episode)).

[lis-ik]

Quote: kot423

For this I take my leave, there is no desire to discuss with a person,

I don't want to either, yesterday's statement by Chemezov was enough for me, what kind of disputes there are.

[isv000]

Quote: lis-ik

Or did you think that high-class workers and engineers would not be able to create an armored car?

You can become a high-class specialist by the age of 30-40, add 30 years of independence and migration - in the bottom line we have only a few high-class 60-70-year-old specialists remaining in the ranks ...

[lis-ik]

Quote: isv000

Quote: lis-ik

Or did you think that high-class workers and engineers would not be able to create an armored car?

You can become a high-class specialist by the age of 30-40, add 30 years of independence and migration - in the bottom line we have only a few high-class 60-70-year-old specialists remaining in the ranks ...

So we also, we devour one inheritance! I will add. My nephew entered the first year of a prestigious institute, on a budget. Today, laughing, I told my grandmother (my mother) that their third-year students are still at a distance, a couple of times they were at the institute. What !?

[isv000]

Quote: lis-ik

So we also, we devour one inheritance!

If we look at the number of built and created, compare Russia in the 90s and the present, then we can safely say - our heritage is in good hands!

[poquello]

Quote: lis-ik

their third-year students are still at a distance, they have been to the institute a couple of times. What !?

do you have 100 kilobits of internet? is it so funny? Well, don't measure it by yourself, now there are almost more opportunities to receive information from home than in the audience

[lis-ik]

Quote: poquello

Quote: lis-ik

their third-year students are still at a distance, they have been to the institute a couple of times. What !?

do you have 100 kilobits of internet? is it so funny? Well, don't measure it by yourself, now there are almost more opportunities to receive information from home than in the audience

My teachers would agree with you.

[poquello]

Quote: lis-ik

Quote: poquello

Quote: lis-ik

their third-year students are still at a distance, they have been to the institute a couple of times. What !?

do you have 100 kilobits of internet? is it so funny? Well, don't measure it by yourself, now there are almost more opportunities to receive information from home than in the audience

My teachers would agree with you.

yes, how the teachers pushed for a visit from the beginning of the school year - not only yours, but almost everyone would disagree with me, as a result we have a wild outbreak of covid among students and the teachers seem to have nothing to do with it

[jovanni]

Quote: poquello

do you have 100 kilobits of internet? is it so funny? Well, don't measure it by yourself, now there are almost more opportunities to receive information from home than in the audience

Friends, this is complete nonsense! Durilka for people far from education. God forbid, it happens to someone seriously ill that a sick person will look for an experienced doctor with extensive practical experience in treatment. It would never occur to anyone to contact a "specialist" who studied on the Internet. Well, this is so about the doctor, for clarity. Why do you think that other areas of study are different? And what is the concept of "continuity of generations"?

[poquello]

Quote: Jovanni

the patient will seek an experienced physician with extensive practical experience in treatment. It would never occur to anyone to contact a "specialist" who studied on the Internet.

and to an experienced doctor on the Internet?

Quote: Jovanni

And what is the concept of "continuity of generations"?

succession of generations usually occurs in the process of practical work

[jovanni]

Quote: poquello

succession of generations usually occurs in the process of practical work

Here I am about the same! The Internet is unlikely to teach a kid to hold a hammer so that he can jump on his fingers, but the old master, Uncle Fedya, is easy!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: lis-ik

Or did you think that high-class workers and engineers would not be able to create an armored car?

This is which a 15 year old boy teaches how to make tanks?

it does not exist, there is only the country's potential for enrichment and factories for its production. They can do everything

And you buy assemblies in the USA that are absolutely not suitable

[lis-ik]

Quote: Seryoga64

And you buy assemblies in the USA that are absolutely not suitable

So I'm talking about opportunities. Or do you naively think that this is a huge secret? Many can, but not many have a legacy of the GOK and centrifuges, which were built in huge numbers by the USSR.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: lis-ik

So I'm talking about opportunities.

So why don't you do it yourself ???

but not many have a legacy of GOK and centrifuges,

Did Iran have a lot of inheritance?
Which shipyards you inherited. Where are the newest ships?
What's the newest tanks?
NOT ONE NO!
Where are the newest, or just new aircraft ????
Stop blabbing !!! We rode and rode everything

[Avior]

This is which a 15 year old boy teaches how to make tanks?

This one?

A 13-year-old schoolboy has developed an "unmanned tank". He came to discuss his development at UVZ - the largest tank-building enterprise in the country.

As it turned out, the young man created his own design bureau KKBTM (Kaluga design bureau of heavy engineering), having connected his friends to this venture. The guys named the created tank "Tornado", the developer sent its schemes to Uralvagonzavod.

[Sergej1972]

Ukraine could not have 40% of the allied military-industrial complex. The RSFSR accounted for 66% of the entire industry of the USSR (with a share in the population of 51%), moreover, in heavy industry, mechanical engineering, the military-industrial complex, as well as in the timber and pulp and paper industry, this share was higher, and in the light and food industries, on the contrary, lower ... The share of the RSFSR in the industrial production of the USSR exceeded the share of the population of the RSFSR in the USSR, in Ukraine everything was exactly the opposite. Indeed, in addition to the industrial East and South, the Ukrainian SSR had western and southwestern regions, mainly centers of agriculture and food industry. This is us at the end of the 80s. studied in the school course of economic geography. By the way, school textbooks on economic geography both in the USSR and in foreign countries were excellent. As a schoolboy, I loved to read them at my leisure, studied tables with indicators from different countries and regions of the USSR.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Sergej1972

I, as a schoolboy, loved to read them at my leisure,

They now have these tutorials

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Probably because almost 40 percent of the military-industrial complex of the USSR was located on the territory of Ukraine, or did you think that high-class workers and engineers would not be able to create an armored car?

That was 30 years ago, and a lot has flowed under the bridge since then. Over these 30 years, they have there, only the consumption of electrical energy has fallen by 2 times, and it is difficult to count how many times the number of highly qualified specialists has decreased!

[poquello]

Quote: lis-ik

And we and they have one school, one touched the USSR, it's funny to read the comments that we have better, but they have everything

The USSR touched them so much that all the monuments were demolished, but they did not learn to work. What are you talking about here? What is it not a handshake?

[Maikcg]

The USSR has been gone for 30 years already, it’s good to jerk the elephant at it, it was hurt and the school retired. Both in Russia and in Ukraine the foundation is the same, the USSR, but there is a nuance, as in the well-known anecdote.

[Alien From]

Let them hope, hope, as you know, dies last ...

[knn54]

Alexander, than the products of the Kharkov twice Order of Lenin, the Orders of the October Revolution, the Red Banner of Labor and the Red Star of the V.A.Malyshev Transport Engineering Plant are worse than the products of the Arzamas Engineering Plant?
Even the "cool" Finnish armored personnel carrier Patria (it costs five times more) has reliability problems.

[isv000]

Quote: knn54

Alexander, than the products of the Kharkov twice Order of Lenin, the Orders of the October Revolution, the Red Banner of Labor and the Red Star of the V.A.Malyshev Transport Engineering Plant are worse than the products of the Arzamas Engineering Plant?

What kind of products does Kharkiv produce now? Arzamas is 100% loaded ...

[knn54]

isv000, tell me, what products (armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles) comply with the NATO standard? And "Butseval" corresponds. For thanks and for the "beautiful eyes", they do not give such an equivalent of the Soviet Quality Mark.

[isv000]

Quote: knn54

sv000, tell me, what products (armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles) comply with the NATO standard? And "Butseval" corresponds. For thanks and for the "pretty eyes" they do not give such an equivalent of the Soviet Quality Mark.

And who said that NATO standards are the ultimate truth? The Italian armored cars that Taburetkin wanted to sniff for us slid like cows on ice on a slightly dusted field, did not start at -10, letting even UAZs pass ahead ... The Taliban massively abandon the Amer assault rifles in favor of the AK ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

Nothing. It's just that there is the go-ahead to "bury" at least in words. If you look at export deliveries, then quantitatively yes, we seem to have sold more. But to whom? To our satellites. Those who are already sitting on our equipment. And the Ukrainians were able to break through to distant markets. Moreover, through competitions and selections.

[mark1]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Those who are already sitting on our equipment. And the Ukrainians were able to break through to distant markets. Moreover, through competitions and selections.

Turks, Emirates, Algeria and other Saudis in the future .... - Mr. Chingachkuk !!! ???

[The leader of the Redskins]

As I understand it, in your comment the keyword is in perspective?
So we are all here in perspective prominent figures. It is a pity that the rest of the world does not perceive us as such.

[mark1]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

As I understand it

Yes, this is not how you understand everything, you do not want to understand and accept. It seems that quite recently they were almost on an equal footing with Russia (USSR), and now the path to the rectum and further to freedom is abidna!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And the Ukrainians were able to break through to distant markets. Moreover, through competitions and selections.

For example, to impoverished Liberia, with which Zelenkin negotiated cooperation yesterday

[The leader of the Redskins]

Are we missing Thailand and the UAE?

[Seryoga64]

Do you mean about thailand and "Oplot"?

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

and the UAE

and the UAE

who to whom?

The Foreign Ministry of the United Arab Emirates today denied the statements of Kiev politicians about the alleged plans to supply the UAE with weapons to Ukraine

[The leader of the Redskins]

In Thailand, more than 200 armored personnel carriers 3 in service, in Myanmar, also more than 200. In the UAE 90 armored personnel carriers.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

There are 90 armored personnel carriers in the UAE.

Great amount
Well, what about this?

The Foreign Ministry of the United Arab Emirates today denied the statements of Kiev politicians about the alleged plans to supply the UAE with weapons to Ukraine

Who buys from whom?

[The leader of the Redskins]

So that's all Outlook... The commentator wrote about her above.
I am not an oracle. I don’t predict. Judging by the facts. I brought them to you. You agree that the export potential is Ukrainian. is the btr real?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

You agree that the export potential is Ukrainian. is the btr real?

Is real. But the amount is just ridiculous. And who else, besides these, will buy something from you?

[The leader of the Redskins]

600 BTR 3 for export is ridiculous ?!
Are you, in general, in the subject or so simply, write only because you know how to write? Our BTR 82 is less officially exported (no data on Syria).
Now compare the industrial potential of our military-industrial complex and the surviving Ukraine!
Laugh together

[Seryoga64]

Quote: knn54

twice the Order of Lenin, the Order of the October Revolution, the Order of the Red Banner of Labor and the Order of the Red Star

You haven't killed the orders yet?
After all, there is an image of Lenin
And why haven't they renamed it yet?
Parashkin renamed his "Forge of Ilyich"

[cat Rusich]

Quote: knn54

Alexander than the products of the Kharkov twice Order of Lenin, Orders of the October Revolution, the Red Banner of Labor and the Red Star of the V.A.Malyshev Transport Engineering Plant
.

There is no such enterprise today ...
There is State Enterprise "Plant named after Malyshev"
In February 2021, a two-month wage arrears arose before the employees of the Malyshev Plant State Enterprise, the company is looking for a new director ...
"Lads who are brave ..."

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

The orders were filmed there

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Royal Thai Navy, asleep and sees how it will drive around in the Ukrainian (one) BTR-4KSH. They dreamed about it all their lives! They couldn't even eat ..)

[Old ensign]

will most likely buy Chinese.

[Murmur 55]

If China does not have territorial disputes with Thailand, and then Beijing has so many DISPUTED lands that horror.

[Sergej1972]

And besides the claims of the Chinese (unofficial, of course), read what territories of China are claimed by Indian, Vietnamese, Burmese, Korean and other nationalists. No matter how funny it sounds to us, the Chinese are also afraid of claims from their neighbors.

[Chief Officer Lom]

Maybe they will. As I heard, modern Thailand is tightly controlled by the Americans, and it is a long-standing practice to support one's (American) interests at someone else's (Taya's) expense. Unless, of course, they decide to sell them an American analogue.

[Murmur 55]

At one time, the United States specifically controlled Iraq and that did not help, there the 4th series of Ukrainian armored personnel carriers also failed due to the quality of performance.

[Chief Officer Lom]

They occupied Iraq, but cooperation was forced, besides, Iraq had to use the equipment for its intended purpose immediately after purchase. Thailand, it seems, is not at war with anyone now, and I don’t know how the army is, and their special services have long been a direct branch of the CIA. So there are chances.

[Sergej1972]

Thailand only, not Thailand.)

[opposite28]

For the Royal Thai Navy, Ukraine has offered a KShM based on the BTR-4; this is not the first time Kiev has been trying to attach this armored personnel carrier. Earlier in Ukraine, they created a version of the BTR-4M for the Indonesian marines, but the Indonesians, after a series of tests, abandoned it.

Really, in the spare parts and accessories of the unfinished "barge" called the BTR-4, the valiant representatives of the Thai Navy did not find the oar in a critical situation.

[Prisoner]

The case when IT drowns.

[sgr291158]

They know how to push bullshit.

[Prisoner]

If you are not familiar with the saying that a miser pays twice, you can give it a ride.

[75 Sergey]

Someone seems to me from behind on him a lot pushed, how is his displacement and stability?

[kot423]

Quote: 75Sergey

how is it with displacement and stability?

No way. If you're interested, here's about him in general https://alex-leshy.livejournal.com/177212.html (though half of the photos and videos are no longer plowing), and about the amphibious one that Indonesia sent by the forest https: // naked-science .ru / article / tech / ot-noveyshih-ukrainskih-btr-4

[KCA]

Interestingly, and what is there command and staff? Leather interior and warm toilet? Something about me, as the former chief of the R-142N and R-145, is somehow incomprehensible that there are no antennas at all, or will the units be controlled using mobile phones?