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Flight crew meals

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Flight crew meals

Food is a very important part of military service.


The order of food intake in the army is regulated by the Charter, and the content of food is regulated by the order of the Minister of Defense, where the range of food and its amount are written down to the gram.

There, in this order, all types of food are prescribed, for all military personnel, including even such exotic ones as deer. Moreover, in this example, "deer" is not a characteristic of a soldier, but the name of a war animal. So, according to the order, a military deer is given 6 kilograms of lichen moss per day. I brought this example so that everyone would understand that the army takes food very seriously.

I'll try to tell you about the flight crew's food.

Why are they fed?


The pilots are fed very well, perhaps the best in our army. In terms of the quality of food, the ration of submariners is approaching the flight ration, but the pilots are fed more varied and, what is most offensive for heroes-submariners, the pilots are served not by sailors-messengers, but by real female waitresses. How!

What do pilots eat?

All the best and most delicious - chocolate, sausage, cheese, eggs, sour cream, various soups (borscht, pea, pickle, milk, kharcho ...), be sure to have meat at every meal (chops, langets, cutlets, schnitzels, rump steaks, beef stroganoff , stew ...), poultry, fish, salads, vegetables, various side dishes (mashed potatoes, rice, buckwheat, horns ...), pies, buns, juices, cocoa, tea and much more, you can't remember everything.

And many do not know that if the flight lasts more than 4 hours, then these gluttons are given on-board rations even during the flight, so that they can fill their womb with stew, biscuits, chocolate, juice during the flight. And if the flight lasts 12 hours, then 3 board rations are given, for one cracking mug ...

And why are these dudes in leather jackets so well fed, while the renowned "special forces" are content with ordinary military rations?

After all, these "flyers" do not carry weights, do not run like moose, do not dig trenches, do not enter into fire contact with the enemy, but simply sit in their cabins, picking their noses, and do not take anything heavier than a pencil in their hands?

An interesting question ...

I answer - it's all about the environment and our bodies.

The pilot's body is in an alien environment, in the air, and also rushes through this air at a speed of about 1000 km / h. Moreover, different factors exert their influence - the mixture that the body breathes, radiation, electromagnetic fields, all kinds of radiation, various, albeit short-term, overloads ...

That is, the pilot's body is constantly in a stressful situation, although outwardly this is not always noticeable. So, from all this combination of factors, the body begins to eat its own body. To prevent the body from devouring the entire body, the body has to be constantly rebuilt, since the process of devouring occurs all the time, even on earth.

That is why the pilots are so fed.

All this was established by military doctors, they also developed a special diet, well, you yourself understand, our Motherland is not so generous to feed its military for just so tasty food.

The explanation is very primitive, but I'm not writing for doctors of science either.


Special dining room


The pilots take food (eat, eat, eat and even devour) in the dining room of the flight and technical personnel.

Usually this is a nondescript structure with 1-2 dining rooms, a brewhouse and utility rooms.

The canteen is a large and complex public catering enterprise, with a round-the-clock cycle of work, with a large number of employees. More than 100 people worked in the canteen of our garrison, the whole business was headed by a senior warrant officer - the head of the canteen, usually female. The canteen employees were subdivided into cooks, waitresses and support staff, the team was female, only a few of the auxiliary workers were men.

The usual work schedule of the canteen:

- breakfast 07: 00–09: 00;
- lunch 13: 00-15: 00;
- Dinner 18: 00-19: 30.

At this time, everyone who does not participate in flights takes food.

Those who are busy on flights take food at a convenient time for them, and the canteen works at the request of the chief of staff of the regiment, that is, our canteen worked almost around the clock to provide flights of three regiments.

I have already told you what pilots eat and where they eat.

How pilots eat


Now on to the fun part - how do these pilots eat?

If you ask the pilots themselves about this, the answer is obvious - culturally, calmly, accurately, as officers with higher education should behave. The waitresses have a different opinion, a very short one - like eating pigs.

The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.

Usually, about 250 pilots and the same number of technicians are packed into the dining room for lunch in one room. There are no named tables, everyone is seated upon arrival, and service is in the order of arrival, but everyone arrives at the same time, and everyone wants to eat instantly and run home for an afternoon nap.

In short, if you did not get into the dining room "for the first scoop", then you can sit for an hour.

Hence the nervousness and inadequate demands on the waitresses. This is also where the vulgar joke about a pilot who "looks at the instruments for half his life, and at the waitress's ass for half his life."


Yes, there is not much to look at ...

Mainly adult women work as waitresses, exhausted either by their drunken husbands or by children who are brought up alone, and if you bring such an aunt to white heat with your nagging, then you can get a tray in the head, there have been attempts. Young and beautiful girls rarely appear, and lieutenants quickly take them as their wives.

I was lucky, the circumstances were such that no matter what table I was sitting at, I was always served out of line.

And my comrades always tried to get at the same table with me, because then they will be lucky, because the waitress cannot serve only one person at the table, they will bring food to everyone. And the evil envious people, who had to wait for their turn for another forty minutes, culturally shouted the common phrase: “What, whoever sleeps next to him, has meat?”. To which I replied modestly: "Yes, that's the point."

And the fact was that it was my wife, a senior warrant officer, who served as the head of the flight and technical canteen for more than ten years.

And, of course, not immediately after arriving at our garrison from the resort city of Yalta, she became the head of the canteen. At first she served as a sailor in the taiga, then became a warrant officer, head of the apartment maintenance service, and only then she was entrusted with the management of this "grain" place.

Embezzlement


So, smoothly, we approached the issue of stealing food from the canteen, and here you will receive information, one might say, first-hand, I just ask you to take into account that everything that you read below is my personal speculation.

I say right away - all the employees of the canteen are bringing home products that are intended for pilots and technicians. ALL.

But, if you organize the theft process correctly, then everyone will be full: the pilots, the robbers, and the sniper chef will not have to cut the sausage and cheese so thin that they become transparent.

How exactly this process is organized, I will not tell you in detail, but if you analyze the visit to the canteen, you can find out that about 20% of officers sleep and do not come to breakfast, 20% do not go to lunch either, and 50% do not come to dinner. standing on allowance. From here, surpluses are generated.

There are different subtleties in the theft of products, but I will not delve into this issue, you are not going to steal anything, as far as I understand?

A question may arise about my attitude to theft. Negative! And my wife was brought up in the same spirit, so when I bought sugar in the store, everyone laughed at me.

But it is impossible to stop embezzlement on a global scale, otherwise there will be no one to work, because they do not go to work there for a meager salary. Well, you know ...

It seems that I have revealed the most important issues of logistics support for pilots, I don’t want to write more about the rear, there are many nuances, and the pilot is always a loser. Everyone knows about this, but no one fights against it, well, as is customary everywhere.

Alcohol


Incidentally, in aviation everyone has the same ration: that of a general, that of any warrant officer, and generals are not supposed to have any cognac.

Do the generals drink alcohol in the dining room?

It happens.

In this case, alcohol is provided by the boss to whom this general flew.

In case of an emergency, the head of the canteen always had a supply of alcohol in his office, usually from my personal reserves, but I don't remember a case when a general flew in with his bottle and gave it to my wife, they say, give my husband a favor.
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  1. lis-ik
    lis-ik 11 November 2021 18: 09
    +13
    Theft. There is a surplus in any dining room, anytime, anywhere. I was very nervous when I ran into this in the hospital system. How, how can you steal from the sick? The Lord will punish, etc. Then he plunged further and realized that everyone is stealing in different ways, you can shamelessly, really cutting back on the ration, or you can cook for a large amount, as expected, and there will still be a surplus. There is always a surplus. And in trade and in public catering, the seller and the cook who work in the red are bad. It is not reliable.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 11 November 2021 18: 20
      +3
      How many hospitals I don’t remember, here in them there are always more than half of the patients from the gruel turn up their nose) So not only to carry away, but also to feed the ever-hungry trainees is not a question))) Although, ninay as now, but in my time the trainees have stupid time for it was not too much to eat.
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 11 November 2021 18: 29
        +2
        Quote: Cowbra
        How many hospitals I don’t remember, here in them there are always more than half of the patients from the gruel turn up their nose) So not only to carry away, but also to feed the ever-hungry trainees is not a question))) Although, ninay as now, but in my time the trainees have stupid time for it was not too much to eat.

        The point is not in the portions of the sick, but in the fact that you can take home. You do not think that the salaries of hospital cooks and catering workers are off the charts, but people work hard and hard. The shift starts at 5 am and until dinner, around 16:30 pm. Accordingly, the task is to feed the team, these are cooks, workers, and drivers. Naturally, no funds are allocated for this, then you need to take something home (usually a loader and a worker), milk, bread, some meat, etc. The manager takes on an industrial scale, but if it is adequate, then I repeat, everything is enough for everyone and the patients are not hungry. There are, of course, creatures for whom their pocket is more expensive and I know such, but this is the case for the Investigative Committee and the prosecutor's office.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 11 November 2021 18: 32
          0
          I know I know. In hospitals, no one is fooling around, even goblins at the checkpoint are hiccupped for a shift.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 11 November 2021 18: 34
            +9
            Quote: Cowbra
            I know I know. In hospitals, no one is fooling around, even goblins at the checkpoint are hiccupped for a shift.

            In that hospital where I take food, they managed to give up all security, fire alarms, etc. We are waiting for the incident and what will happen next? Probably the press will tell. Just in case, this is the Moscow region of Ruza.
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 11 November 2021 18: 38
              0
              Quote: lis-ik
              managed to give up all the guards

              ???? That cops are obliged to sit at the entrance even to a medical school - a law from the 90s shaggy years
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 11 November 2021 18: 43
                +4
                Quote: Cowbra
                Quote: lis-ik
                managed to give up all the guards

                ???? That cops are obliged to sit at the entrance even to a medical school - a law from the 90s shaggy years

                From private traders refused, optimization, moreover, and the fire brigade sent the fuck! In my small store, and then in obligation. The main remote control in the children's department, before it was checked every month, now there is no one. Again, this is in the Moscow region!
                1. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 12 November 2021 17: 40
                  -2
                  Until I caught on a lie - I believe in a person. But forgive me, "refuse" - at the first check - you flew in, and what you described - administrative responsibility - is very strong, you will sit down. How? How to check half a year-times?
                  city ​​of Ruza.
                  So you have a blatar on a blatar - what kind of heresy, maybe just because of your show-off - and the district - nowhere?
      2. Moreno
        Moreno 11 November 2021 21: 23
        +5
        I was in Barcelona, ​​in a tuberculosis hospital. One year and six days. They were fed four times a day. There was also afternoon tea. All food was brought in containers, they only warmed up in the kitchen. It was delicious! And if I had an appetite "did not succumb to the disease", then the portions simply burst. The staff looked very closely, and there were a lot of additives!
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 11 November 2021 21: 26
          +3
          Quote: Moreno
          in tuberculosis

          In surgery, there would be no. Without salt, at least twist, it's not tasty
    2. knn54
      knn54 11 November 2021 18: 58
      +10
      At the end of the 80s, they flew (special flight) to the Semipalatinsk division YES.
      The crew of the rented plane (while refueling the An-32) and I decided to have lunch in the officers' mess.
      I remember the following - the excellent quality of the dishes, And the prices are comparable to the cost of a complex factory lunch.
      At the same time, there was a kettle with an uzvar on the table (4 persons) for FREE.
      Well, for a dish, vinaigrette with fried hake.
      1. Bez 310
        11 November 2021 19: 20
        +7
        Quote: knn54
        Well, for a dish, vinaigrette with fried hake.

        Fish with vinaigrette is a typical appetizer.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 11 November 2021 19: 33
          +3
          Quote: Bez 310
          Fish with vinaigrette is a typical appetizer.

          the fish is recognizable
          but the author's vinaigrette
          a photo from the dining room?
          1. Bez 310
            11 November 2021 19: 57
            +7
            Quote: Flood
            a photo from the dining room?

            Yes, the cafeteria YES in Diaghilevo.
            1. YOUR.
              YOUR. 13 November 2021 17: 16
              0
              Familiar places.
              Moscow district.
              Diaghilevo can be heard very well :)
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 November 2021 20: 38
          +8
          Quote: Bez 310
          Fish with vinaigrette is a typical appetizer.

          Not bad, not Michelin, but delicious. Pilots need to be fed colorfully, this is your job. I looked at the layout, the fishermen of the Baltic in Soviet times had not much less, for meat too 350 grams, but without 25 grams of smoked meats, everything was included in those grams, there is a lot of sugar, but you have different loads, but for vegetables it was two times less, the delivery suffered. Well, even though the work was 12 hours long and 4 meals a day, but for an afternoon snack there was mainly fish and occasionally canned vegetables (overseas eggplant caviar and imam-buyaldy), but they had their own fish and ate it every 4 hours in a smoke break. The officers were served by waitresses, and the rank and file took the portions themselves, and the waitresses gave out and washed the dishes. For 220 people in three salons there is a barmaid, and there are also 3 for a private, 3 cooks, a baker, two galleys.
          The difference between the food of the fishermen was one thing, no one stole food.
        3. Aag
          Aag 14 November 2021 18: 09
          +1
          Quote: Bez 310
          Quote: knn54
          Well, for a dish, vinaigrette with fried hake.

          Fish with vinaigrette is a typical appetizer.

          In the layout, according to the norms of allowance (Strategic Missile Forces), there was no pollock at all. Nevertheless, the main fish on the shelf menu ... Well, if not frozen ... In parts, even where the soldiers turn, (do not carry home, TRB, RTB / technical missile bases / missile technical bases), It was much more pleasant to eat, to take food inside through the mouth than in the RP (missile regiment, where there is a cloud (conditionally) of rear personnel, some of whom are relatives, confidants, mistresses ... parts of the command ... This is what I encountered , my colleagues (who served, but did not seek ... as they say now, - bonuses ...
      2. Cosm22
        Cosm22 11 November 2021 19: 20
        +9
        As it is now - not in the know.
        But under the Union, the flyers were well fed.
        I still remember my father's board rations, which he brought home to me, a child.
        1. Product8
          Product8 11 November 2021 20: 37
          +10
          Nothing particularly interesting there. They always took their own.
          Screen with video, IL-38 search in the area.
          1. Bez 310
            11 November 2021 21: 07
            +9
            Quote: Product8
            Screen with video

            Here is also a screen. The commander of the Tu-142MZ eats in flight.
            1. Product8
              Product8 11 November 2021 21: 59
              +4
              Quote: Bez 310
              Here is also a screen. The commander of the Tu-142MZ eats in flight.

              So I threw off the video for you back in 2010- "It all depends on the screw")))
              1. Bez 310
                11 November 2021 22: 02
                +8
                Quote: Product8
                So I sent you a video

                Maybe I don't remember anymore.
                There our regiment made something funny.
                But if you show this video here, the boring navigator from Chelyaba will immediately zagundos - "vyvsevrete".
                But I'll show, let him be jealous.
            2. irontom
              irontom 11 November 2021 22: 19
              +3
              I work with ITS in GA on Airbus, each flight is equipped with food on board, this is without taking into account the canteen, the crews hardly eat except when the flight is long, so the choice is a trash heap or a techie's sidor.
            3. B1 Lanser
              B1 Lanser 12 November 2021 23: 10
              -1
              Well, well, military pilots are being fed to the slaughter! Luxurious ration!
            4. B1 Lanser
              B1 Lanser 12 November 2021 23: 10
              -1
              Well, well, military pilots are being fed to the slaughter! Luxurious ration!
          2. kig
            kig 12 November 2021 04: 18
            +2
            Respected Product8, sorry for the curiosity, but can you please clarify the origin of your nickname? I here hastily rummaged around on the Internet, but nothing further Nos. 2 and 3 did not find. For connoisseurs, apparently, everything is clear without words, but what about an ordinary seaman of the merchant marine?
            1. Product8
              Product8 12 November 2021 06: 30
              0
              Quote: kig
              but can you please clarify the origin of your nickname?

              It happened. I went through everything that was. Well previously banned here.
              In the livejournal, I understand there, there is a plane.
              I'll put the picture on my nickname, then ...

              .
              1. kig
                kig 12 November 2021 09: 03
                +2
                That is, you started with Product0, and then, according to the degree of banning ... banning ... banning ... have grown to eight? And all on one resource? Interesting biography hi
                1. Product8
                  Product8 12 November 2021 11: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: kig
                  Product0

                  eight ? )))
                  No, more than 20 in 5 years.
              2. 76SSSR
                76SSSR 12 November 2021 14: 24
                +1
                Quote: Product8
                previously banned here

                Why were you banned? Did you go to the forum at the "low level"?
                1. Product8
                  Product8 12 November 2021 17: 01
                  0
                  Quote: 76SSSR
                  Why were you banned? Did you go to the forum at the "low level"?

                  Yes, it was different.
                  Mainly in KRYMNASH and LDNR.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 11 November 2021 20: 08
      +11
      And you must admit that Mikhail writes interestingly. Marble, artistically))))
      1. Bez 310
        11 November 2021 20: 15
        +6
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        interestingly Michael writes. Marble, artistically

        Do not flatter yourself!
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 11 November 2021 22: 39
          +2
          Quote: Bez 310
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          interestingly Michael writes. Marble, artistically

          Do not flatter yourself!

          Like, will it still be written? wink good drinks
          1. Bez 310
            11 November 2021 22: 41
            +6
            Quote: Starover_Z
            Like, will it still be written?

            To deceive is to be in a pleasant delusion about something.
            But I got the hint ...
        2. Aag
          Aag 14 November 2021 19: 10
          0
          Quote: Bez 310
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          interestingly Michael writes. Marble, artistically

          Do not flatter yourself!

          For self-criticism, - a special thank you! Not many, at our age, in our position, can self-critically assess the situation (I am probably no exception) ...
          Now about the unpleasant (with all due respect to you and your spouse ...)
          I appreciate the work of the rear employees at its true worth!
          Yes! And even there were different people! (But, as a rule, guided by the principle you are for me, -I for you!). What could an officer who honestly be on duty give them?
          I already wrote on this site: you want to get vacation pay BEFORE vacation-10% ...
          But that's okay ... The child of the mother of a female dog, - the parent died, - to receive a monetary pleasure in full, - 10% ...
          Sorry, dear BEZ, but with prod. rations were the same crap. (not in spite of you, - perhaps (?!) you had all the chiki-bunches there, I agree, with some consensus, coexistence of wolves is possible, m "sheep" ..)
          We couldn't do that more often! Example: before the vacation I was overly relieved (which is usually). Vacation. 45 days, + travel ... Returning from vacation (year, approximately, 95th). Money, with a delay, after the vacation (friends helped out, mutual aid funds ..) , .... we get food rations in three months (!)
          Meat ... It was called kenguryatina, - lamb from Australia ... In three months! All these chests fit into the bathroom ... (I did not begin to find out with the women from the warehouse, who exists for whom).
          Bottom line: from a six-month meat ration, we managed to cut two three-liter cans of "meat" suitable for a skewer. (At least pleased my friends) ...
          Dear Bez! You are breaking some stereotypes! Welcome to this endeavor! But! Apparently, this is inevitable, you hurt other kinds, types of the sun;
          Okay, we will resist, although rather, we will help.
    4. not main
      not main 12 November 2021 00: 14
      +2
      Quote: lis-ik
      Theft. There is a surplus in any dining room, anytime, anywhere. I was very nervous when I ran into this in the hospital system. How, how can you steal from the sick? The Lord will punish, etc. Then he plunged further and realized that everyone is stealing in different ways, you can shamelessly, really cutting back on the ration, or you can cook for a large amount, as expected, and there will still be a surplus. There is always a surplus. And in trade and in public catering, the seller and the cook who work in the red are bad. It is not reliable.

      Thanks! My wife works as a cook in a private company. Revisions are always a plus! And people are delighted with her dishes! I remember ZabVO and our flight canteen ... I wouldn't have taken that much!
    5. for
      for 12 November 2021 07: 28
      +2
      Quote: lis-ik
      There is a surplus in any dining room, anytime, anywhere

      Surplus is an underinvestment in the final product. The question is how much the cook's skills were not reported.
      And in trade and in public catering, the seller and the cook who work in the red are bad. It is not reliable.

      Of course he is not reliable, he does not steal. You can't cook porridge with an ax with it.
    6. Aag
      Aag 14 November 2021 16: 44
      0
      Quote: lis-ik
      Theft. There is a surplus in any dining room, anytime, anywhere. I was very nervous when I ran into this in the hospital system. How, how can you steal from the sick? The Lord will punish, etc. Then he plunged further and realized that everyone is stealing in different ways, you can shamelessly, really cutting back on the ration, or you can cook for a large amount, as expected, and there will still be a surplus. There is always a surplus. And in trade and in public catering, the seller and the cook who work in the red are bad. It is not reliable.

      They steal always, everywhere ... Yes, as you say in different ways: it even happens like this, - they steal wildly, - but "tenderly" ... Sometimes, and vice versa, - a couple of cans of carcass will resist, - but, with pomp, - to me everyone should !! ...
      I don’t presume to judge the Author in this context (his wife, ... Thank him for the series of articles! Hard, unkempt, really ... Here is the analysis, I think, it should be expected in the comments ...
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 11 November 2021 18: 24
    +12
    ... the pilots are served not by sailors, but by real female waitresses. How!

    On duty, I had to visit the flight canteen. I saw and ate. Everything is okay. I never envied the rations of flyers and submariners. I saw products for submariners: potatoes in jars, and loaves with a shelf life of "hell knows how much" - they had a snack with the escort team.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2021 20: 41
      +2
      Quote: ROSS 42
      and potatoes in jars, and loaves with a shelf life of "horseradish knows how much"

      ... and carrots, onions, potatoes, in cans, either dry or evaporated, but in briquettes.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 11 November 2021 21: 05
        +5
        The loaf smelled of alcohol. The potatoes were peeled, in three-liter jars. There were tin cans of sausages, long tin cans of minced sausage (boil in boiling water - natural boiled sausage) ... A friend was there (the head of the food service), he told a lot and was interesting. He even gave an example of how you can exchange oats for meat. By the way, the dry potatoes were of a completely different quality than for the combined arms army (in paper bags) ...
        At a demonstration dinner (for academicians), professional chefs showed how to cook delicious food from products according to the menu-layout, and not paste for wallpaper ...
        Ordinary oatmeal acquired a completely different taste, as well as mashed potatoes.
        1. Aag
          Aag 13 November 2021 15: 56
          0
          "... The loaf smelled like an alcoholic smell ..."
          Eliminated by evaporation in the oven, or frying in a pan or fire ...
        2. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 26 November 2021 20: 43
          0
          "The comrade was (the head of the food service), he told a lot and was interesting. He even gave an example of how you can exchange oats for meat." I tell you as ... a classmate of D.V. Bulgakov.
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 11 November 2021 21: 20
        +5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        ... and carrots, onions, potatoes, in cans, either dry or evaporated, but in briquettes.

        Again, the question of cooking. In 1984, when he was serving as a conscript, they put the brigade on dry potatoes in jars, and the quartermasters went out of their way. So, in our separate battalion, a cook made such mashed potatoes from these potatoes, you will lick your fingers, and in the shelf there is such a liquid d ****** mo, mom do not cry.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 November 2021 10: 31
          0
          Quote: Captain45
          So in our separate battalion, a cook made such mashed potatoes from these potatoes, you will lick your fingers

          Well, they rightly said, when the "craftsman" cooks, yes with stew, and the onion fries, then I went for a sweet soul.
      3. RaDeVl
        RaDeVl 12 November 2021 06: 13
        0
        A cool thing in our fleet is still in the form of a roach in cans and salty croutons in large paper bags. The main thing is to establish communication with the prod. service of the ship and small joys on the voyage for the deck aviator are provided. By the way, on ships, except for one large one, LTS ate in the wardroom together with the ship's officers and the ration did not differ, with the exception of chocolate, but it was given out separately, apparently so as not to "upset" the shipbuilders.
        1. Product8
          Product8 12 November 2021 06: 38
          +2
          Quote: RaDeVl
          but it was issued separately,

          There were very small, daily cottages. But in the food service, these were not always. In order not to break a large tile with "dirty paws", they accumulated it, then gave it out in a week at once.
        2. Bez 310
          12 November 2021 08: 28
          +2
          Quote: RaDeVl
          in the form of a roach in cans

          Sometimes we, ground aviators, experienced this joy. At lunchtime, they gave out one fish per person instead of a fish snack. But very rarely ... More often they gave out salted red fish instead of fried.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 November 2021 10: 35
          +1
          Quote: RaDeVl
          LTS ate in the wardroom together with the ship's officers and the ration did not differ, with the exception of chocolate, but it was given out separately, apparently so as not to "upset" the shipbuilders.

          Yes, they were not upset, in the fleet there is a "common pot" for everyone, and supplementary food always went separately, but in the fleet it is condensed milk.
        4. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 26 November 2021 20: 47
          0
          Vobla in cans was usually overdried, it was tasty in boxes of 8 kg, filled with paraffin (box)
  3. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 11 November 2021 18: 34
    +6
    I demand the continuation of the banquet!
    1. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 18: 38
      +10
      Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      I demand the continuation of the banquet!

      Specify!
      1. Product8
        Product8 11 November 2021 20: 15
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        Specify!

      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 11 November 2021 20: 30
        +18
        Quote: Bez 310
        Specify!

        "Who is always dirty and hungry? - Aviation technician!" - my father often used to say. He was a 1st class pilot. Therefore, I have an idea of ​​how they feed in the canteen of the flight crew. Then he grew up, unlearned, became a naval officer. I had to serve on the aircraft carrier, then on the boat. Therefore, there is something to compare with.
        And this is what I want to say.
        1. no one has ever been hungry. But the pilots always had a choice of 3 first and second courses. The technical staff was deprived of this luxury.
        2. submariners had the opportunity to eat delicacies that were not supposed to flyers. Plus another 100 ml of dry wine, which could (if desired) be diluted with something stronger ... Nobody was deprived of an awl on the boat.
        3. I ate chocolate both there and on the boat. But we collected it for our children:
        chocolate "Alenka" 25g is tiny, but it took 72 days to collect them - a bunch! There was also a vobla - for an amateur, they changed according to interests - who collected what: bachelors - for beer, fathers - chocolate for children.
        4. None of the waitresses (at the base, in the flagship's cabin) have ever said even a rude word to the submariners behind their backs, always courteously and respectfully. Especially the messengers.
        5. What struck the flyers in the diet was the variety of dairy products and fruits with juices.
        6.fatty (except for the well-fed midshipmen of the submarine laughing ) I have not met, especially among the pilots. Fizeau had to be handed over to everyone, so they kept themselves in good shape. And I didn't really want to eat in the PC, apparently the physical inactivity affected.
        And so, of course, interestingly colleague Betz wrote, there is something to gossip and discuss.
        1. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 20: 40
          +6
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Fizeau had to be handed over to everyone

          Yah?
          Funny ...
          1. Aag
            Aag 14 November 2021 16: 57
            0
            Quote: Bez 310
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Fizeau had to be handed over to everyone

            Yah?
            Funny ...

            Well, in fact, you see, it's not very funny ... In an amicable way, it shouldn't have been! And even here, in the Strategic Missile Forces, (recognized puzans), they somehow tried (in those years, exactly!) radiation, stress, irregular regime, -more than yours ... I hope ...)
            Apparently, the question is debatable ... For a series of articles (unwashed, unkempt, -Thanks! As already mentioned, the swamp has been rippled!) hi
            1. Bez 310
              14 November 2021 17: 23
              +1
              Quote: AAG
              agree, not very funny ...

              Later, if the editors allow, I will tell you about Fizeau.
              1. Aag
                Aag 14 November 2021 17: 49
                0
                Quote: Bez 310
                Quote: AAG
                agree, not very funny ...

                Later, if the editors allow, I will tell you about Fizeau.

                Thanks for the lively reaction!
                I agree, we, too, everything was ... strained ... hi
          2. Aag
            Aag 14 November 2021 17: 19
            0
            I wrote you a detailed answer ..
            Time is over
            I'll try in short ...
          3. Aag
            Aag 14 November 2021 17: 33
            0
            Quote: Bez 310
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Fizeau had to be handed over to everyone

            Yah?
            Funny ...

            Agree, it's not entirely funny ...
            Even here, in the Strategic Missile Forces (I don’t know how it is now, it looks like it’s not Ice either,), in the "recognized" form of troops "Puzanov"), somehow they tried to cope with this, at least at the household level ...
            For myself-graduation of 88th year. 27 years in reserve ... I still get into the lieutenant's parade! I understand, not an indicator ...
            For a series of articles (uncombed, for someone wild, thank you!) hi
        2. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 21: 43
          +5
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          submariners had the opportunity to eat delicacies that were not supposed to flyers.

          Quite possible. I found a Soviet submariners menu.
          1. Alien From
            Alien From 11 November 2021 22: 11
            +3
            I would not refuse such a menu even now!)
          2. 76SSSR
            76SSSR 11 November 2021 22: 53
            +2
            Quote: Bez 310
            I found a Soviet submariners menu.

            Menu from the submarine K-210 (first crew). Where did you get it from?
            1. Bez 310
              11 November 2021 22: 57
              +8
              Quote: 76SSSR
              Where did you get it from?

              "Where did you get it, where did you get it?" Found!
              His grandfather is in the NKVD, and I'll tell him everything ...
              1. 76SSSR
                76SSSR 11 November 2021 23: 00
                +3
                My grandfather was kind.) 79th year, the crew of Solovyov, and the second crew in those years was commanded by Urbanovich - a cool guy.
          3. Eug
            Eug 11 November 2021 22: 55
            0
            It seems that we have one particularly nimble warrant officer from the food service put a lot of effort into transferring the chief of the submarine. It turned out, in his words - I did not regret it.
          4. Lucy
            Lucy 27 December 2021 18: 38
            0
            Not rich. Especially for breakfast. You may not be able to catch up until lunchtime.
        3. irontom
          irontom 11 November 2021 22: 26
          +6
          Thank you for the kind word about those on whose humps planes fly.
          From air humor.
          Who doesn’t sleep in the dead of night?
          Dog, technique and h ... The dog howls, heh it is clear what he is doing, but the technician is heating the plane.
          Himself from the night, winter has come, pancake.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2021 20: 43
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        Specify!

        Not well, like that at once, and cranky, you already write about something, your language is simple, human, not newspaper and not political officer.
        1. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 20: 48
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Not well, like that right away, and the crap

          What are the cranks?
          Where are your cranks?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 November 2021 21: 11
            +2
            Quote: Bez 310
            What are the cranks?
            Where are your cranks?

            I thought you had already finished writing the article, so I thought of erany articles. Write, it's interesting to read.
            1. Bez 310
              11 November 2021 21: 17
              +7
              Quote: tihonmarine
              I thought you finished writing

              Writing is not the most important thing, it is not a problem, the main thing is to publish, and here it all depends on the editorial staff. Although, I understand perfectly well that Ukraine, migrants in Belarus, and the United States have already tired everyone, I want something simple, human.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 12 November 2021 11: 17
                0
                Quote: Bez 310
                Although, I understand perfectly well that Ukraine, migrants in Belarus, and the United States have already tired everyone, I want something simple, human.

                Oh, how tired! Precisely, I want a human, alive, and it is from those who passed through that they felt what they write, and not the vaudeville of a journalist.
                And then I remember one such thing about the fleet "We walked by reckoning - the log and echo sounder readings" and "First, the trawl boards went into the water, followed by the trawl" and this is from the story "Three minutes of silence".
      4. Captain45
        Captain45 11 November 2021 21: 22
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        Specify!

        It's very good to eat hotzza! laughing
  4. Leonidych72
    Leonidych72 11 November 2021 18: 42
    +19
    Uv. Michael! Thanks for the great story loops! Had to register here to write thanks)
    1. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 18: 53
      +11
      Quote: Leonidych72
      Thank you

      Yes, not at all, read on health.
      1. dauria
        dauria 12 November 2021 05: 50
        +3
        Yes, not at all, read on health.

        Mikhail, and in our cafeteria (OVE) in ZabVO, an outfit of conscripts worked. Civilian cooks and a couple of waitresses. And on Sakhalin with us, another detachment was sitting at the airfield (more precisely, we were "relocated" to them from Transbaikalia), so the first thought was - well, you got drunk here, bastards. The norms are the same, and the feeding is heaven and earth.
        Well, since "for life" the conversation is honest, the nicknames were given to the waitresses "Swashplate", "Jera and Judy" ...
        And "they dragged home" - so it does not count. All the same, not everyone went to the canteen. And a couple of cats and dogs on food allowance ate from the belly. Do not throw away the same products.
        1. Product8
          Product8 12 November 2021 06: 53
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          then the nicknames were given to the waitresses "Swashplate", "Jera and Judy" ...

          "The pilot asks, it is necessary to give"
        2. Bez 310
          12 November 2021 08: 33
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          And on Sakhalin with us, another detachment was sitting at the airfield

          I've been on this island, I've been ...
          We sat on the Tu-16 for several months at Leonidovo.
          And he sat at the test site for months, in the village of Viakhtu.
          And on a motorcycle I rode from Kholmsk through Yu. Sakhalinsk, along the eastern bank to Leonidovo.
          In general, there is something to remember ...
          1. dauria
            dauria 12 November 2021 08: 52
            +2
            In general, there is something to remember ...

            Still ... "Country of burdocks and dandelions." Mine brought petunia seeds (ordinary, from the Volga), planted - this is how the trees were grown under one and a half meters. laughing And there they also managed to get pregnant with childless couples - it's wonderful, but true.
            Amazing island.
        3. 76SSSR
          76SSSR 12 November 2021 11: 44
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          And a couple of cats and dogs on food allowance ate from the belly.

          It's a sacred thing to feed this brother.
  5. Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 11 November 2021 18: 43
    +5
    Where are my ...
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 11 November 2021 18: 51
    +14
    I have a friend, a pilot in reserve, the captain quit while a drunk to feed the pilots, according to his stories, he drove soldiers on a loaf in the 90s, and from the fields they "collected" potatoes, carrots, onions in bags, and often even the watchman on collective farms they said where it was possible in the field for a quick "harvest"! And that was !!!!
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 11 November 2021 20: 10
      +4
      We, cadets, in the same 90s were sent by agreement to collective farms to help in harvesting. Well, like we collect three boxes for collective farmers, the fourth for us. Or something like that. I went for three courses on weekends.
      But then the food was very acceptable)))
    2. Kushka
      Kushka 11 November 2021 20: 12
      +14
      There is nothing wrong with the fact that we, sailors from Kaliningrad, Baltiysk
      were involved in trips to Belarus to the fields, where in piles
      lay carrots, potatoes. For us it was how to unwind,
      before and tired of sitting, chained in iron sides, from which
      dripping continuously. And you can't walk around the ship much.
      And there is nature, lively, interesting, and most importantly
      friendly people, and as they say!
      And the bags - so for themselves, again young, healthy - one
      left. I remember these trips with warmth.

      Somehow I just got into a party to unload potatoes
      from some kind of dry cargo ship. They brought us to the port - there is a dry cargo ship, tweendek
      open, and in it there is a "pyramid" of potatoes in nets. Lowered into the hold
      flooring, we will pile sacks on it and vira. We got almost
      before payol, it's either a Sabbath, or a break. Well, I'm a rookie (always wants
      eat and always wants to sleep) climbed the neighboring pyramid-
      the crown is at the very top deck, only the lid of the twin deck is closed.
      Like, I'll sit down (yeah) .... well, I fell asleep. It got dark, a bus arrived with
      sergeant major, all ran along the gangway, lined up ... but one is not!
      I do not know which of the guys found me "behind the mountain" in a dark hold,
      as I found it (thank God), pushed it away - with fright I jerked along the gangway!
      The line is standing in the rain, waiting for the line of what and for whom ... and then a thunder of laughter!
      And the eyes of the foreman - if they were charged - would have two holes in me
      in the head! I think - why are they laughing, and the foreman looks somehow ..
      And he is the Sailor (imerek) YOUR BELT WHERE !!!? ..... and the belt is on the overcoat
      no. My - a complete dishonor - a sailor! a badge with a Star and an Anchor! Lost!!
      I slept "behind the mountain" like a marmot, curled up in a ball, wet and tired,
      the belt buckle on the overcoat and unbuttoned. How frightened in the dark
      blown up, so along the gangway and jerked to the wall.
      How I rushed back down the gangway, how I jumped into that twin-deck ...
      well, I don’t remember which "mountain" on the account, which side of it
      (all these heaps of bags of 20 m in height are the same, and it's dark,
      in the hold, tea is not a philharmonic hall) ...... but I found it, AND FAST!
      The eyes of the foreman! - this is power !, Tesla's tower is just a cigarette butt.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 11 November 2021 21: 31
        +3
        Quote: Kushka
        The eyes of the foreman! - this is power !, Tesla's tower is just a cigarette butt.

        The foreman is GENERAL! The entire Soviet Army, its internal service, in my humble understanding, was kept on the foreman. But how this institution was canceled, now I do not know, although thank God, I have not been a pensioner for a long time and I have not served, I do not disturb my soul.
        1. Kushka
          Kushka 11 November 2021 23: 48
          +3
          Eh, he was a dear father (God bless him!)
          you can't quit for two months. And now, finally! My sidekick
          from Kharkiv we got it right and we stand on examination, trembling, like an aspen
          sheet (there is a Komsomol badge, there is a handkerchief ...) -fu,
          "Have a nice rest!" Yeah, right now! We wandered around Kaliningrad for two hours
          frightened - there is a patrol, there was a glimpse. And so we took
          in the grocery store a bottle of "Crystal" and rushed into the depths of a park.
          We got into some kind of catacomb and suddenly it turned out ........ from the neck
          we can't drink it - weenies. I had a calendar (and who didn't?)
          but not simple, but aluminum with a rotating disc. And he was in
          PLASTIC COVER! Well, we ate this bottle from him.
          Well, now we, brave and beautiful, are flooded with dancing in the club
          car builders (or railroad workers). Oh, and the girls are there!
          Oh, and we danced with them (without losing sight of each other with Tolyan)
          And so, just to the edge, wet, as if from a steam room, we fly out of this
          club and rush (where? - I do not know - rush in a flock). The closer
          part of the flock becomes more and more. Through the main
          We do not have time to checkpoint, we climb over something on autopilot ...
          and now 23-59 (fu-uu) we appear before the eyes of the dezh in part.
          I don’t know, it seemed to me that I reported as an Octobrist - clearly.
          And with relief I trudged down the ladder to the top. And suddenly I hear
          -What salaga, 100 gr. drank, but pretend to be a liter! Years
          then they have fun until late. Vidocq, apparently I was good!
          In the morning I was awakened by the jolt of the foreman (the dej whispered in part
          in your ear) - I WILL SEE THE ENTRY IN THE LOG OF DISMISSALS,
          I'll be imprisoned for a month, Well, I'm serving quietly.
          And as luck would have it, two weeks later, my uncle on my mother's side, an academy pilot,
          I flew on a special board and grabbed my parents. Called to the checkpoint
          Hello, we've arrived. And the foreman has a cream shirt, and in his pocket
          dismissal and ink seals can be seen (well, there are chores -
          then an artist, then a photographer, a panel for the congress of the CPSU).
          And here I am (salaga, hare), so nailed, lowered my head, rolling up ...
          - Well, what have you got?
          -Yes, here I am ... Yes, here, so and so ...
          SILENCE! REMOVED THE FORM! THREE DAYS!
          I will remember forever! HUMAN!
      2. 76SSSR
        76SSSR 12 November 2021 12: 28
        +1
        Quote: Kushka
        There is nothing wrong with the fact that we, sailors from Kaliningrad, Baltiysk
        were involved in trips to Belarus to the fields

        Under the Union, the participation of military personnel in the battle for the harvest was quite a massive phenomenon, the same 336th Guards. a brigade of the MP from Baltiysk in the 80s annually sent a "harvest" company to the fields. The Marines were assigned a company from each fleet, and in the Airborne Forces, if I am not mistaken, a battalion from each division. Moreover, all this was of a widespread nature and was decided centrally - at the level of the Ministry of Defense, and not at the shtetl level, they say, the commander sent as much as he wanted. Why, from Hungary (YUGV) they sent them to the Union for potatoes.)
        1. Kushka
          Kushka 12 November 2021 13: 46
          +1
          In! I "lodged" with them! These are the guys!
          Some kind of infection figured out that I have a civilian
          specialty cable guy. Another same contagion
          decided from a network of fascist bunkers in the vicinity
          Baltiysk to make the ZKP of the fleet. I'll tell you German
          bunker with a rail ring under the antiaircraft gun at the top and
          down conveyor is something! And around the pine
          wood our plywood ZURS squeak. Amber
          in bulk. So, we are like devils, everything is in resin (the couplings were cooked)
          the whole day through the forest "partisans", dug out German
          lead cables, soldered them, ate dry rations by the fires.
          We sat in a bunker in the rain - from a 200-liter barrel
          the pechura was piled - the clothes were dried.
          And then dirty, wet, with black muzzles
          dragged into the location of the MP battalion,
          where they washed, fed and slept.
          Once they dragged along, but the checkpoint did not go through, the Marines, how
          the horses are racing. They said the commander, their lieutenant
          in the local club decided to "offend". I don’t know what
          they are with this n.p. made. I had to watch
          how they work in the forest is a tornado.
          And then I also met with them - in the SDK PTShki theirs
          packed and carried to Poland for the exercises of the USSR-Poland-GDR.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2021 20: 45
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      to feed the pilots, according to his stories, he drove a soldier on a loaf in the 90s, and from the fields they "collected" in bags potatoes, carrots, onions

      The drunk did everything to destroy the army, and my subconscious is gnawing all the time that at the behest "from across the river".
      1. 76SSSR
        76SSSR 12 November 2021 12: 38
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        "from across the river"

        No, Afghanistan hardly organized it. Rather "because of a puddle", if you're talking about the United States.) I agree here - the wrong word contributed ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 12 November 2021 12: 44
          +1
          Quote: 76SSSR
          No, Afghanistan hardly organized it.

          For you, the Pyanj is a river, and for me the Atlantic puddle.
  7. Korax71
    Korax71 11 November 2021 18: 53
    +11
    Huge respect and respect to the author for the series of articles drinks I read with interest. Comments are also not lagging behind, I learn a lot of new things for myself, because I practically did not come into contact with aviation.
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 11 November 2021 19: 32
      +6
      I join! Written with good irony and love for the flight business! good
  8. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 11 November 2021 19: 16
    +4
    The article is interesting. I flew several times to the Il - 76 Dzhankoy regiment, ate a couple of times in their dining room, delicious. The waitress came across one and the same, aged (I was then 19), but pretty and with a very beautiful figure.
  9. nonsense
    nonsense 11 November 2021 19: 41
    +3
    why pilots are fed is understandable. It is not clear only who selects future pilots? Here, for example, in France from the "ancient" times in fighter pilots select such sturdy shorty. Why? - They can handle overloads easier! It is much easier to push blood in a one and a half meter "gnome" to all organs of the heart (which is approximately the same in size for all) than in a two-meter hulk. And now let's look at the footage from the graduation of the Russian aviation school - they are entirely slender high officers. So who gets the advantage "if something happens" in advance? Not a single grub ...
    1. Product8
      Product8 11 November 2021 20: 28
      +3
      Quote: nespich
      It is not clear only who selects future pilots?

      Well, for pilots, coordination, balance and a sense of space are important.
      No offense, it's like teaching a bear on a one-wheeled hair-cushion)))
      Well, translate instrument readings into mechanical movements.
      For this prof. selection is carried out. That then they do not suffer.
  10. Paladin
    Paladin 11 November 2021 19: 52
    +7
    And I am that "snickering pig"))) I confirm the reliability. True, according to this norm, I had to eat only at the school, between flight semesters. When the flights began and later in the regiment, our norm was not flying. There was a ration and more abruptly, "Reactive". Something from the list of flight standards needs to be doubled.
    Well, some of the nuances of eating during the flight shift. You can simply call them - Whoever did not have time, he was late. Respect to the author!)
    1. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 20: 00
      +3
      Quote: Paladin
      True, according to this norm, I had to eat only at the school, between flight semesters.

      Strange ...
      We began to eat according to the reactive norm already in the first year of college, and we ate this way until graduation. But we started flying in the first year.
      And the waitresses ...
      1. Product8
        Product8 11 November 2021 20: 23
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        in the first year of school, and so they ate until graduation.

        Is it? On the flight always, on the reactive when flying.
        Juice and chocolate are not all year round?
        1. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 20: 37
          +1
          Quote: Product8
          Juice and chocolate are not all year round?

          I tried to remember, I couldn't ...
          1. Product8
            Product8 11 November 2021 20: 54
            +1
            Quote: Bez 310
            I tried to remember, I couldn't ...

            Three courses in a two-story. Then they were transferred to a one-story apartment, behind the old ULO. I did not find a photo.
            There is no one to ask, all the kashniki who lived in Lugansk were combed from there back in 2015 (((
            1. Bez 310
              11 November 2021 21: 02
              +4
              Quote: Product8
              Three courses in a two-story. Then they were transferred to a one-story apartment, behind the old ULO.

              Yes, it was.
      2. Paladin
        Paladin 11 November 2021 21: 09
        +2
        So I wrote that between the flight semesters. 1 semester cadet norm, after passing the complex test it is flight, 2 semester, flights - jet. And then flight by odd, jet by even.)
  11. Svarog
    Svarog 11 November 2021 19: 54
    0
    Write great, easy, with humor .. interesting to read, although the topic is from the category of "simple". hi
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 November 2021 20: 49
      +4
      Quote: Svarog
      Write great, easy, with humor .. interesting to read, although the topic is from the category of "simple".

      I support you, his language is easy, understandable and without abstruse phrases.
  12. bk0010
    bk0010 11 November 2021 20: 02
    +5
    Our and the US supplier are showing off to each other. Shoes are measured, shape, etc. Finally the American says: "But our soldier gets 4000 calories a day!" Our warrant officer counted something in his mind and said: "Well, you are flawed! A soldier cannot gobble up two bags of turnips in a day!"

    But seriously, I heard that in Vietnam local pilots were forced to eat under the threat of being shot. They often fought, there were complaints about the aircraft, somehow they found out that accidents occur due to the loss of consciousness by pilots during overloads. We looked - and the pilots did not eat much, as they used to, so they began to force. And the problem was resolved.
  13. bober1982
    bober1982 11 November 2021 20: 16
    -1
    Bez, you are misleading, if this is how the food for the personnel in the MPA was organized, then it was a complete mess.
    Flight rations were subdivided into turboprop, jet and supersonic, by order of the Ministry of Defense - the flight canteen was equated to restaurant N .... category, there were no elderly waitresses at all - there were, as a rule, young pretty girls, if there were any "thefts" then maybe they took home (the canteen workers) the cutlets that remained untouched in the kitchen, sat down at the tables according to the subordination, in the flight and technical canteen itself there were three halls - flight, ITS and a small, so-called Greek, for command, food was taken neatly and culturally, the girls were very polite, the generals in the dining room might have drank alcohol, that's why they are generals, no evil envious people who were waiting for you will bring , was not, etc., etc.
    No need to slander and compose fables.
    1. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 20: 47
      +9
      bober1982
      Are you a political officer?
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 11 November 2021 20: 49
        +3
        Quote: Bez 310
        Are you a political officer?

        No, navigator of the Su-24 squadron, guard major of the reserve
        1. Bez 310
          11 November 2021 20: 50
          +7
          Quote: bober1982
          No, navigator of the squadron

          And you behave like a political officer.
          Well, you this ..., relax, or something ...
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 11 November 2021 20: 54
            -2
            Quote: Bez 310
            And you behave like a political officer.

            Incidentally, I was not a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and you probably entered the second year of college, guess right?
            And what turns out - I did not belong, but according to your words I behave like a political officer, and you were, and you smear them with mud.
            1. Bez 310
              11 November 2021 20: 59
              +5
              Quote: bober1982
              in the second year of college entered, guess?

              No, they didn't guess, somewhere in the third officer's year of service.
              Boring you ...
              Quote: bober1982
              you smear them with mud

              Who are they?
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 11 November 2021 21: 00
                -1
                We will watch football, there is nothing to talk about.
              2. Product8
                Product8 11 November 2021 21: 56
                +4
                Quote: Bez 310
                Boring you ...

                Yes ChVAKUShevskie woodpeckers in general in life)))
                1. Bez 310
                  11 November 2021 21: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: Product8
                  Yes ChVAKUShevskie woodpeckers in general in life)))

                  This is a little ...
    2. Gardener91
      Gardener91 11 November 2021 21: 00
      +5
      Quote: bober1982
      No need to slander and compose fables.

      That's exactly how it was. I think it hasn't changed much since my time. At the table there is a link and ... a special atmosphere of communication in the flight canteen itself. And starting breakfasts, when you look out for a car with a canteen at the "square" on the landing (in normal conditions). Nostalgia...
      1. Bez 310
        11 November 2021 21: 14
        +5
        Quote: Gardener91
        At the table there is a link and ... a special atmosphere of communication in the flight canteen itself.

        And in the PLA there are three tables for the crew.
  14. zenion
    zenion 11 November 2021 20: 53
    +2
    How is it that they do not give alcohol? Once I had to be on duty, so much so that I could not come to dinner. I was sent to the officers' mess of the flight crew. And that was after nine o'clock in the evening. They brought me the first and the second. And one waitress with a smile, I was a guy like nothing, asks - are you going to fly today? No, I won't fly today. They brought me a large glass of red wine. Only not a word to anyone. I went to bed with violence, so I was twisted. Then I met this girl and asked where did you get the wine? What did you like? Of course, excellent, hurrying to bed. She said that sometimes they bake something and then add alcohol to different products.
  15. Sergei Khukharev
    Sergei Khukharev 11 November 2021 21: 09
    +2
    I agree with the author, but there were some nuances. V
    one part was brought in sea buckthorn juice in obscene quantities. The pilots get up from the table, and the juice in the decanter and the glasses is virginally untouched, so disgusted. But one relatively elderly fellow soldier married a young beautiful girl. Everyone was happy and wished for happiness in family life. And at the dinner table, an intellectual pilot, and as you know, there were no others among the pilots, says: "My grandfather told me that whoever drinks sea buckthorn juice is that unsurpassed man in bed and this is the basis of Chinese and Eastern medicine in increasing potency." Since then, the decanter has been empty in the afternoon.
  16. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 11 November 2021 21: 19
    +1
    Nice to see familiar faces!
    PS In the 2nd photo, if that. But number 3 is also nothing good
  17. kitpit
    kitpit 11 November 2021 21: 33
    0
    Other planet laughing I have never met waitresses after college during the service except for visiting restaurants. And so at the point there is only a soldier's canteen. The rest of the houses are good for anything. It was good in the North and the Far East that they received good rations, but of course they were not in any comparison with the flyers and sailors. Of course, the SBR on the DB was fed with additional rations, but all of them were just crumbs. This was partially offset by a large amount of alcohol that went to the technique. wink
  18. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 11 November 2021 21: 41
    +4
    He served as a conscript at the Vostochny airfield, this is Tashkent Uzbekistan, the locals called him Tuzel. My service consisted of chopping meat in a warehouse and giving out some products. Including scarce chocolate, coffee and .... red wine! pilots are supposed to! Red, dry. So that during overloads the vessel in the brain does not burst, if I am not mistaken 140 gr.
    As for stealing, the meat is simply stolen: the refrigerator is deeply frozen, the meat is taken out, chopped, practically in front of the chefs' eyes, and covered with a thick layer of ice! out of thin air !! in this form is given! cooks lose up to 10% due to icing!
    In addition, according to Soviet standards, there was a substitutability of products; cooks had the right to replace butter with lard. One to one! How they dealt with meat there, I don't know, I just know that they often carried lard and not butter to the guardhouse! 20 grams per soldier!
  19. bober1982
    bober1982 11 November 2021 21: 49
    -1
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Red wine! pilots are supposed to! Red, dry.

    You got confused with the submariners, the pilots did not have such a thing.
    Alcohol for pilots, according to the norms, is supposed to (just kidding)
  20. Eug
    Eug 11 November 2021 22: 04
    +4
    In our garrison, the flight and technical canteens were located in separate buildings. As for the flight ration, I can say one thing - I really liked condensed milk without sugar, I have never seen anything like this on sale. But in general, on the website of veterans of the 8th Air Defense OA I read that almost the determining factor in the deployment of the air defense corps headquarters in Dnepropetrovsk was the presence of a flight canteen in it - so that the bosses and the inspectors in it would "soften" .. Rather, there was a different branch of the military - VVSovskaya. As a result, the various heads in the garrison staggered immeasurably. As for the technical composition, I will say - the food was simple, but satisfying and quite varied. They were very fond of the exercises - they fed them 5 (!) Times a day ... On the simulator, the pilots treated us to chocolate quite often. The monetary compensation for the technical ration was 32 rubles (87-89), the real cost was 4 times higher. The waitresses had their own favorites, this was explained not by amorous affairs, but by mutually beneficial cooperation - basically the favorites were the main "shareholders" of alcohol-containing liquids ...
  21. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 11 November 2021 22: 08
    -6
    A question to the author - to some articles about modern aviation and the navy leaves ... critical comments. Here he writes about .... the theft of food. The author was the chief of staff of the regiment. Author, did you make statements about the theft of food products from flight personnel to higher-ranking commanders in the OVKR? Can I have screenshots of statements?
    1. Product8
      Product8 11 November 2021 22: 50
      +7
      Quote: Okolotochny
      there were statements from you about the theft of food products from flight crews to higher-ranking commanders,

      Are you serious? )))
    2. Bez 310
      11 November 2021 22: 54
      +12
      Quote: Okolotochny
      there were statements from you about the theft of food products from the flight crew

      Here's a bonus in the form of a short story from life.

      The "truth diggers" scribbled a report - "I think that the waitresses of the flight canteen, after the shift, take out groceries in their bags. I propose to organize a" flying group "to suddenly snatch these bags from the waitresses' hands, followed by a check for the availability of food. I propose to extend my initiative to all garrisons of the Pacific Fleet Air Force ".
      Having received such a report, the regimental commander looked sadly at the ceiling, then summoned the direct commander of the "truth-digger" and suggested that measures be taken so that the "truth-digger" no longer had time to write such nonsense.
      In this case, long business trips "to the virgin lands", or to a military state farm, to harvest potatoes, helped very well.

      You can not thank.
      1. Product8
        Product8 11 November 2021 23: 06
        +9
        Quote: Bez 310
        or to a military state farm, to harvest potatoes.

        So this is sacred .....
        'The Age of Restructuring and Acceleration is in full swing. The first crew of the SSBN K-433 (in the future "Holy Great Martyr George the Victorious"), digging potatoes in Milkovo - the middle of Kamchatka). There was such fun at 25 DPL, 2nd FlPL, KTOF. The crews of nuclear submarines in the intervals between the seas dug potatoes grown by the Milkovo natives. Why the aborigines themselves did not dig it is not clear even to a person who passed the political economy of socialism - 4 times, 1st at a school, 2nd, 3rd and 4th at UML (University of Marxism - Leninism) in Hajopol, Rybachy and Big Stone ... Admit it, you get about 1000 rubles for digging potatoes. (the monetary allowance of the hero of a submariner in Kamchatka = about 7 salaries of an engineer in the USSR) is rather contradictory from an economic point of view, how much was the cost of such potatoes after digging up? By the way, patients of the Petropavlovsk LTP (medical labor dispensary - that is, those who are being treated for alcoholism) competed with us in shock labor on the potato field. This apparently reduced the cost of the final product .. '


        And "riding" academics came across.
    3. businessv
      businessv 12 November 2021 00: 12
      0
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Author, did you make statements about the theft of food products from flight personnel to higher-ranking commanders in the OVKR? Can I have screenshots of statements?
      Damn, at least change your nickname, or it really is a roundabout rushing! And express yourself more clearly - Screen is a screen, what do you demand from the author yourself, have you understood?
  22. alystan
    alystan 11 November 2021 22: 14
    +1
    Who can clarify why cow's butter is written, and not just butter (in the first photo)?
    I am perfectly aware that there is butter made from goat and sheep milk, but this is the first time I see such a name.
    1. Avior
      Avior 11 November 2021 23: 10
      +4
      This is the classic name for butter, in all old recipes and sources they write - cow, in literature.
      Aksyutka, however, came first; she smoothed and smeared her red hair with cow oil, put on a festive sweater with a skirt, put on her shoes - and didn't look prettier!
      Aksakov S.T., Family Chronicle, 1856

      The army is generally conservative about such things.
      Strictly speaking, the correct full name is cow butter, there is also ghee cow butter.
      Goat butter is now a curiosity, it used to be much more common.
      1. alystan
        alystan 11 November 2021 23: 24
        0
        Thanks for the information, I have tried all these types of oils and they are very tasty. But a sheep has a slightly special smell and a specific taste. I can't understand why I haven't met such a name before, although, who knows, maybe this is a new trend and, at the same time, how we "return the distant old times", the language is also included in this program !?
        1. Avior
          Avior 12 November 2021 00: 00
          +3
          It's just that other types of oil have become very rare, there is no need to specify what is cow's.
          Another example, vegetable oil and sunflower oil used to be synonyms, they only heard about olive oil, but most did not see it in their eyes.
          Even now, many people share vegetable in the sense of sunflower and olive, corn and so on, although formally they are all vegetable.
          1. alystan
            alystan 12 November 2021 00: 11
            0
            Maybe they began to specifically write that butter was made from cow's milk, and not all sorts of surrogates such as butter with a palm filling, which is everywhere passed off as pure butter and in which only the name remained of the pure. And here, after all, we are not talking about mere mortals, but about the defenders of the Motherland after all. Before, after all, we did not even hear about such an infection as palm oil, so probably there was no need to write differently ?!
  23. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 11 November 2021 22: 17
    +1
    I was lying like that in the hospital of the glorious city of Podolsk and very successfully got to the experiment, where they tried to find out why the ration of our soldier is almost twice as much as the ration of a NATO soldier ?!
    We decided to feed a group of soldiers according to the enemy's standards, carefully measuring and weighing everything, well, we got it.
    I will say right away that the portions have become ... more.
  24. Vyacheslav01
    Vyacheslav01 12 November 2021 00: 01
    +1
    It all depends on the shelf, different shelves have different food, in terms of the quality of food preparation and the variety of dishes.
  25. Fitter65
    Fitter65 12 November 2021 00: 03
    +4
    Usually, about 250 pilots and the same number of technicians are packed into the dining room for lunch in one room.
    An air regiment accountant is usually 3 squadrons of 12 aircraft = 36 pilots, plus or minus vacation, overstaff, regiment commander = headquarters, 50 people maximum in a flight position, who is entitled to a flight ration. But again, the flight ration is different - part of the reactive rate, but there is a simple one. We take strategists. there is not a crew of 1-2 people, there is a slightly different number, there is only one Tu-95, almost like a link in a front-line bomber, 7 people, but again, where did the author get the idea that the one who is the first and the sneaker, okay, I can still understand a technical canteen, it means that I didn’t get to the meat, I myself stood in the technical canteen, and that is one thing when in the canteen and quite another thing when at the starting line, on the strip. And my opinion about the theft of food from the flight canteen, well, there was no way to lie here. but this is again fraught, God forbid, in the flight dining room, the pilot or navigator will not have enough antrikot, or a chop, a scribe for the cook, but if there is left of breakfast, lunch, dinner, here is another conversation, taking out the activated food is not theft. at least everything that is received for cooking, for cooking, and leaves at least 98%. "Overeating" the flight crew is more expensive for yourself, but after that ... Of course there are specialists who shmekeryat, in my life as far as I can remember 3 chiefs of the flight canteen have lost their positions, In technical or soldier's it is much easier, although not sugar either ...
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    2. Bez 310
      12 November 2021 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65
      3 squadrons of 12 aircraft = 36 pilots

      Why 36?
      That's very interesting to me.
      Quote: Fitter65
      where did the author take that the one who was the first and the slippers, okay, I can still understand in the technical dining room, if I was late, then I didn't get meat

      Where did you read that?
      We all got "meat" according to the norm.
      And yet - our pilots and technicians ate in the same hall, and only the norms differed, but not the service.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 12 November 2021 14: 07
        +1
        Quote: Bez 310
        Why 36?
        That's very interesting to me.
        On average, there were more pilots than aircraft, we also had a navigator plus control, so the number of flight crews was always more than aircraft.
        Quote: Bez 310

        Where did you read that?

        From personal experience. Sometimes it happened.
        Quote: Bez 310
        And yet - our pilots and technicians ate in the same hall, and only the norms differed, but not the service.

        I will not argue, we had a separate flight hall, a separate technical one.
        1. Bez 310
          12 November 2021 14: 11
          +1
          Quote: Fitter65
          I will not argue

          Why should we have 36 pilots in the regiment?
          Also from personal experience?
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 12 November 2021 15: 01
            +1
            Quote: Bez 310
            Why should we have 36 pilots in the regiment?
            Also from personal experience?

            I wrote that there was more, there was a time when a specific aircraft was assigned to each pilot, therefore the number of flight personnel (crews) corresponded to the vehicles. This was told by people who found those distant times, although they also had reserve crews / pilots with them. And I cited 36 aircraft as an example, in addition to 3 squadrons of 12 aircraft composition, there were also control link aircraft, and the number of aircraft in a squadron could be more than 12, well, this was already in the 90s when the reduction of parts began, and the aircraft were shoved where only could. When I served, our number of flight crews was greater than the number of aircraft
            1. Bez 310
              12 November 2021 15: 06
              +1
              Quote: Fitter65
              And I gave 36 airplanes as an example.

              I will tell you a secret - we had planes, the crews of which consisted of 6 and 10 people, so that the number of flight personnel eating in the canteen approached the number I indicated. It is also necessary to take into account the control crews of the division and three regiments.
  26. businessv
    businessv 12 November 2021 00: 07
    +1
    As always, I read it with interest, as always, thanks for the article and for the humor! smile
  27. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 12 November 2021 00: 50
    -7
    Why are these memories from the past?) Now food is outsourced and everything works differently.
    1. ada
      ada 12 November 2021 04: 03
      +8
      Sun outsourcing is a terrible evil. What is in nutrition, what is in physical training, what is in the form of clothing, and in the other is enough - in the army is a mess (in the heads). It's good that the organization of food and the food supply for servicemen is based on positive practical experience, but service outsourcing distorts this too. I arrive at the soldier's canteen for a bookmark of food, a menu-layout, dumplings for breakfast. Pelmeni on breakfast! I ask the manager - is it so cool? Run out of cereals? Answers that there is no cereal yet, and this is an acceptable substitute. The layout has been signed, agreed upon and approved ... Who can argue, since it has been approved ... it was necessary to start the day in a military unit with milk and green vegetables. Such replacements ... sausages, sausages, and so on in candy wrappers, and they did not sculpt dumplings all night with their hands, but from a bag, and are the same as other semi-finished products of low quality. Shelf life is usually running out. And the state bears no less costs, but the result is worse, and someone pushed through this idea, as in their time and the idea of ​​a professional army on a contract basis, despite all the results of research and research. If pilots and sailors are also fed in this way ... or are they already? WHERE GONE THE SCIENTIFIC BASE OF THE ORGANIZATION OF THE PROVISION OF MILITARY SERVICES? One consoles that the norms of food, dry rations and food rations answer at least something. We must move towards better nutrition and modern scientific evidence in this matter is far ahead of our capabilities, but it is necessary to strive. A soldier (in the sense of military personnel) needs to be fed well and correctly with the organization in close connection with the activities of combat training and daily life, otherwise what is the point in training a soldier, either a private or a general.
      A living example. We stood under Shali. I go on duty for the division. The battalion commander says - look there in the kitchen, what the hell is that, the battery is complaining about grub (and we are a walking battery). I arrive at the bookmark, I count the stew into porridge - more than half is gone. Where? The little boy crawled under the table and took out a couple more. Everything? All we got. Where are the rest (half of the bookmark)? In stock. Come on, I say. We can not! the head of the warehouse ... got pissed off .... I say - now it is possible. How many stewed stew in porridge - about thirty minutes, you will have time, I will reach the post and come back - you should have everything on the table and you must have the key (what kind of warehouse manager will sneak into the warehouse at night, when there is only lighting over the foothills). I return, half of the opened cans are on the table, and half are whole. Open also into the cauldron. The boy's eyes popped out of their sockets. What to do - an ambush from all sides, but here the machine gun is in my hands, and the cartridge from the chamber is only for cleaning, and the fuse is always removed at night (out of 100 percent of the brigade's losses, at that time, 80 were not combat ones). I moved the barrel and all the jars were in boiling porridge, do not be afraid, I tell the cook and his assistant, tell me what I made.
      After that breakfast with meat, relations in the military collective of the battery (and not only) improved markedly, and the feeding became better, and we had combat tasks. So the role of officers in organizing food for their people (in fact, comrades in arms) helped a lot.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 12 November 2021 05: 10
        0
        I do not consider this to be evil. As for the balance, I'm only for it, but the organization of food is now more convenient. And there is no such insanity when you are taken from the unit to the bread slicer, then to the preparation of people. At the same time, according to all the documents, they are doing completely different things with you. Well, that kind of nonsense.
        1. ada
          ada 12 November 2021 06: 35
          +3
          Well, of course, in this regard, it is convenient, for now, before the real war. I was always told that there would be no war, but for some reason almost all of my comrades fought somewhere (if it can be called a war), either on individual missions or as part of units or subunits. I do not know of a single commander who wants to give up his baggage or gladly get up on ration in someone else's household. Everyone tried to drag the dining room or the kitchen with them. Experience probably.
          When planning training for wartime, a whole layer of unresolved issues always rises, including with food for units and organizations and not only departing to the areas of destination, but also remaining in place, I am not talking about repair and technical support, but earlier this was solved in a regular way. The possibility of providing from local resources is a rather complicated question. I read the General Staff's review bulletin on the analysis of 40-41 years - it's better not to read it. Perhaps it is better organized now - I do not know, I have been retired for a long time, but I will be in reserve for a long time. Good luck to you.
        2. Product8
          Product8 12 November 2021 06: 59
          +5
          Quote: carstorm 11
          people are taken from the unit to the bread slicer, then to the preparation of people

          Bonus
          1. Avior
            Avior 12 November 2021 08: 26
            +3
            Sunday of the Soviet Army, judging by the eggs. And butter and sugar for two, butter is even more than it should be :)))
            Now (about thirty years ago only :) I would make a sweet "bourgeois" from yolks, butter and sugar with a drop of tea for spreading on bread.
            As for the kitchen outfit, it was. But the bread slicer is too "fat" butter-sugar place, there were a lot of people on it, there was always fixed there. :))
            1. Product8
              Product8 12 November 2021 09: 04
              +1
              Quote: Avior
              there was always a fixed one. :))

              It's true. I don’t even remember, you were allocated to the bread slicer to help from the outfit?
              The most thug was "Podvoz".
              The shittiest "Bath".
              The "waiter" is so-so.
              And "Bath" usually finished not earlier than 2 o'clock in the morning. And at 6 again to the dining room.
              Aluminum bowls (((Then they introduced a stainless steel. Sfotal, as an ashtray is now used for playing music.
              I was still a cadet, then the manichka arose - to make tokens with a blood group, such as a bracelet on my hand. They dragged the terels, sawed them and engraved us for chocolate in the TECHi.
              There were goofs))) But the plate remained, I was not too lazy to take a photo now.
              1. Avior
                Avior 12 November 2021 12: 36
                +4
                We had a "teapot" for the urgent most thieves, there was always a soldier assigned to help the woman to the seller, he was far from the dining room, there was a minimum of work, there was a separate room where the regimental authorities came to dine.
                The day of potatoes was terrible for the outfit, they peeled for a long time with the whole outfit, well after midnight, the cleaning machine was always broken.
                There was a "disco" on the washing of the plates - somehow I got there, then I dreamed about them for five years at night :)))
                In addition, the pumping was a bad place - the boilers and the kitchen had to be scrubbed.
                In general, to be honest, the food was not very good. Porridge, rice, sometimes with worms, ubiquitous kombat, if meat and pork are mostly lumps of fat, refined - sauerkraut salad, which in summer and winter, fermented in parts in large pits.
                Fresh vegetables in the summer came, as a rule, from local collective farms, to which they went to help - this is the 80s. Despite the fact that by the look of the pigs in our subsidiary farm, you can't say that they had fat, they looked very athletic. :)))
                The first six months, when in constant stress from the novelty of the army, and the organisms were growing, there was not enough food, I was constantly hungry, then it was normal, in principle, they did not starve, but the food in general, of course, was so-so.
            2. Ady66
              Ady66 12 November 2021 11: 53
              +1
              Oils are clearly more than the norm, but "bourgeois" - yes! Soldier's pate! And the outfits for the kitchen have always been since the days of "accursed tsarism" and this, among other things, the strengthening of discipline. We all went and worked. And old-timers, including if their car was being repaired. Young people are horseless, of course, in the first place.
              1. Avior
                Avior 12 November 2021 12: 42
                0
                I went to the kitchen a few times, on guard, once, they did not touch our TEC, everyone was in business - either repair shops, or VET or some other refuellers, maximum at the checkpoint somewhere sometimes. But I had enough impressions :))))
                And the battalions - every other day in the outfit, the exercises are like a day off :))
                1. Ady66
                  Ady66 15 November 2021 07: 52
                  0
                  Our guard was carried by a company of protection and chemical protection. For the most part, the regiments were not touched - the regiment was stationed on the base, the Tramplin - every day, sometimes not once. "MIG-25" - "deli"))
      2. mmaxx
        mmaxx 12 November 2021 05: 50
        +3
        Dumplings in the army !! wassat
        Not glued pasta !!
        Or an overcooked chunk ...
        Complete moral decay ... winked
        1. ada
          ada 12 November 2021 06: 06
          +1
          Pelmeni is just the name on the bag, and the process is convenient for guaranteed receipt of finances from the state budget and the sale of illiquid assets.
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx 12 November 2021 17: 38
            +1
            At one time, I'd rather eat expired dumplings than what was. And as for the finances .... Well, her away is such an economy as in SA. All those marshals should be fed like we are in the army.
        2. irontom
          irontom 12 November 2021 10: 07
          +2
          In the 90s, a company of cadets of the aviation-technical school of the Civil Aviation was brought to the Koltsovo military-technical cooperation regiment for a month-long training; They didn't wait for us, but we pinned ourselves on, food in a soldier's room, a polar fox, we had those who had served - the Air Force, the border guard, even the naval fleet, according to their recollections, they were so shitty as they were not fed anywhere in this high-frequency division, made the proceeds of the airport canteen. I still remember the rubber shrapnel on the holster filled with greasy grease, which cannot be hooked with a spoon.
          Recently I met a guy who served there in our time, damn it, this is not an army, this is a kindergarten pants with straps, not to mention feeding with a tray and a choice of dishes.
    2. Bez 310
      12 November 2021 08: 38
      +3
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Why are these memories from the past?)

      Why are you reading them?
      Why do you need it?
  28. NSV
    NSV 12 November 2021 03: 22
    -1
    Since when, dear author, have spetsnaz the usual combined-arms rations?!?!
    1. Bez 310
      12 November 2021 08: 23
      +2
      Quote: NSV
      the spetsnaz have the usual combined-arms ration?!?!

      Excuse me, but for me everyone who does not fly or swim is infantry, so I am not particularly versed in infantry rations.
  29. Product8
    Product8 12 November 2021 07: 01
    0
    There were still such, about 15 years ago.
    Not good. But they ate out of hunger.
  30. BAI
    BAI 12 November 2021 08: 36
    0
    So, from all this combination of factors, the body begins to eat its own body. To prevent the body from devouring the entire body, the body has to be constantly rebuilt, since the process of devouring occurs all the time, even on earth.

    Let's admit. Although in modern pressurized cabins, the issue is controversial. But what does the waitress have to do with it? Just a tradition from Tsarist times?
    1. Bez 310
      12 November 2021 09: 03
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      in modern pressurized cabins, the issue is controversial.

      And you argue with those who come up with these nutritional standards. Enough for these pilots to gobble!
      1. BAI
        BAI 12 November 2021 15: 53
        0
        I'm not talking about the diet - God bless him. I'm talking about waitresses. How do they help to fly?
        1. Bez 310
          12 November 2021 16: 07
          +2
          Quote: BAI
          I'm talking about waitresses. How do they help to fly?

          They helped us eat, not fly.
    2. vostok68
      vostok68 12 November 2021 15: 40
      0
      "Although the issue is controversial in modern pressurized cabins," the question is not at all controversial, what kind of air is in these cabins? I am not an aviator, but a bit of a submariner (86 - 89), we were also fed a lot and abundantly, although there was more canned food than the pilots, but this is understandable!
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      2. Product8
        Product8 12 November 2021 17: 20
        +1
        Quote: vostok68
        "Although the issue is controversial in modern pressurized cabins," the question is not at all controversial, what kind of air is in these cabins?

        Dry air. Dries the skin, uncomfortable at 5-7 hours of flight.
        No need to delve into it))) If you are interested, there is one on the Internet.
        Well, so as not to clutter up too much.
        I read at the university about everything, everything.
        SLE-system air cond. air.
        SARD-syst.aut. reg. pressure


        1. vostok68
          vostok68 12 November 2021 17: 33
          0
          BAI is not ours, knows nothing, but he is interested! Let him ask him directly, I'll tell you about the power supply of the submarine, there seemed to be no secrets
  31. Naz
    Naz 12 November 2021 08: 43
    +2
    There used to be pilots, he will come out of the dining room, pernet, he’s standing, only the eggs are swinging. And now, the pernet will come out, he sways, and the eggs are in place.
  32. EvilLion
    EvilLion 12 November 2021 09: 19
    0
    The surplus will be inevitable, since the actual attendance is different every day. And the scandal is minor, that at lunchtime at the factory at 12 o'clock you come, but there is no choice, I was here recently. Not with me, in 99% of cases there is something to my tastes, but the person got it like that, the distributor blurted out to him that he had to come earlier, although there is a regime, and although there seems to be no special control, but it is better to follow it ...
  33. EvilLion
    EvilLion 12 November 2021 09: 23
    +2
    250 Pilots


    Does the entire bomber division with WWII crews with a bunch of riflemen go to the same mess?
    1. Bez 310
      12 November 2021 09: 33
      +2
      Quote: EvilLion
      The entire bomber division

      Not a bomber, but a missile division, but not only that, but also a separate anti-submarine regiment, and there will be about the same number of people as in the division.
  34. Ady66
    Ady66 12 November 2021 11: 31
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    Served 85-87 B. Savino, OBATO (base). I have been to the flight canteen once (I arrived late from the flight and the head of the car took pity). It is clear that the food is more "sophisticated" in comparison with the soldiers' canteen, but I liked it in ours and was quite enough. Shrapnel was given from time to time. Porridge: barley, rarely millet, rice, buckwheat, pea. Mashed potatoes, pasta, all generously flavored with stew. For lunch, vinaigrette and meat from the utility and, of course, soups, which rarely were eaten, for dinner, fish - hake, pollock, rarely slightly salted herring. Whom they told from those who served - they did not believe.
    1. Avior
      Avior 12 November 2021 12: 56
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      Whom they told from those who served - they did not believe.

      I understand them :)
      I served with you almost at the same time, the Air Force of the Odessa district.
      Stew is a terrible curiosity, only at the exercises, the meat was from its own subsidiary, in most cases, chunks of fat, vinaigrette was not given at all, if the tomatoes were only whole uncut in the summer, cutlets were three times in two years for holidays, for a day, parts and for the New Year - a bun for compote. There was pollock fish, and also a terrible jelly with a fishy smell :)))
      Puree - powder, pea puree was also a terrible thing for the barracks :))))
      But all the same, I remember with nostalgia, in my part, a few years after my service, one of the issues of the Mask Show, known in the 90s, was filmed on the set - practically nothing has changed since my time, I like to review this series :))) ))
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_7kD0hY-DAY
      Our parade ground, sports camp and my barracks on the second floor, Windows on the left :)
      1. Ady66
        Ady66 15 November 2021 07: 46
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        Tomatoes for the Urals are exotic))), only pickled green in vinaigrette. We had mashed potatoes, we had our own vegetable store, they simply crushed it in a cauldron with a large stainless crush, but not everything was crushed, so "mashed potatoes". The meat is really mostly fat, but when it is fried with a ruddy crispy crust ... I personally liked it, the rest somehow not very much)))) as they say "the lip is thicker - the belly is thinner."
  35. B1 Lanser
    B1 Lanser 12 November 2021 23: 24
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    Well, well, military pilots are being fed to the slaughter! The rations are gorgeous!
  36. Private SA
    Private SA 13 November 2021 03: 53
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    Quote: Moreno
    It was delicious! And if I had an appetite "did not succumb to the disease", then the portions simply burst.

    You didn't eat on an anti-salt diet in traumatology. So that the authors of this diet only
    it is. And for life, and posthumously, in hell, "for good intentions lead to hell" ...
    The guys from the "Ambulance" friends brought in pickled tomatoes in jars,
    Spread cod caviar on bread, fruits are different. On the hospital diet a priori
    there was no appetite. As well as barley porridge in the Soviet Army, where I have it intact
    I carried them around the dining room in small tanks.
  37. B1 Lanser
    B1 Lanser 13 November 2021 09: 51
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    The life of a military pilot is not sugar! Therefore, they are fed for slaughter, at least some kind of joy in the service!
  38. Real Pilot
    Real Pilot 13 November 2021 15: 29
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    Quote: Bez 310
    Quote: tihonmarine
    I thought you finished writing

    Writing is not the most important thing, it is not a problem, the main thing is to publish, and here it all depends on the editorial staff. Although, I understand perfectly well that Ukraine, migrants in Belarus, and the United States have already tired everyone, I want something simple, human.

    Yes sir! soldier
  39. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 November 2021 17: 52
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    Come on, guys, my wife fed me dumplings well, otherwise I would have choked on saliva. lol
  40. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 19 November 2021 10: 40
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    The author is wrong on at least two points.
    1. Food for pilots is divided into flight rate and jet rate. For example, although the helicopter pilots are jet aircraft, they remained at the flight rate. Differences, the absence of that very chocolate and one egg for breakfast instead of two. Which in turn gave rise to a bunch of jokes about identical and double-faced pilots.
    2. Regarding the waitresses, the author is lying, they were different. Sometimes such lals came across.

    PS
    By the way, photoshop with my ass is my work.
    https://stihi.ru/2011/10/17/9330
  41. Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 6 January 2022 07: 31
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    "The order of food intake in the army is regulated by the Charter, and the content of food is by order of the Minister of Defense, where the range of food and its amount are written down to the gram." - an obvious blunder. The Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Orders of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation determine only the organization of food intake, and the norms of allowance are determined exclusively by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation. And here are such pearls: ".... the flight lasts more than 4 hours, then these gluttons are given on-board rations on the flight so that they can fill their womb with stew, biscuits, chocolate, juice in flight. And if the flight lasts 12 hours , then 3 board rations are given, for one cracking mug ... "- they sound somewhat offensive for people serving the Fatherland. Norm No. 2 (flight ration) and No. 4 (underwater) are somewhat similar in calories, but in the summer there is more milk and fruit, and underwater includes, taking into account the notes (on the nuclear submarine, when going to sea outside the territorial waters, for aquanauts, hydronauts, etc.) dry wine, caviar, salmon, etc. But here you need to understand that the pilots have breakfast, lunch and dinner, as a rule, in a stationary canteen at their own or someone else's airfield (where you can bring fresh food every day), in between meals, rising into the air; but the submariners in the stationary coastal canteen take food only if the boat is in the base for a long time, and at sea, especially in the long-term "autonomous", they eat what is loaded on the shore for several months (largely canned food, dry milk products, and, more recently, deep-frozen first and second courses). In general, they do not feed in vain either in aviation or in any other type of troops, and they also don’t pay money in vain. I am writing this knowingly as a person who wore epaulettes from 15 to 55 years old.
  42. PDM80
    PDM80 7 January 2022 07: 10
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    Che that article is somehow poisonous! "They eat", "snickering pigs", etc.
  43. ppkkwa
    ppkkwa 22 January 2022 21: 31
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    There was also a REACTIVE norm.
    There meat - 350.
    Egg - 2
    So I ate her all my adult life. He was thin, like ... Not like he is now retired.