"Coming soon": Kyrgyzstan confirms the purchase of Turkish Bayraktar TB2 attack drones

Kyrgyzstan bought Turkish Drones Bayraktar TB2. It is reported that three attack UAVs will go into service with the Kyrgyz army.

The Kyrgyz government confirmed the previously announced purchase of Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones, stating that the country's army will receive only three attack UAVs, i.e. one set, which also includes a ground control station. Although this is not mentioned, judging by the supply of Bayraktar TB2 drones to other countries, there are just three UAVs per station. The dates for the arrival of the drones are not named, but it is noted that they will arrive "in the near future."

In addition, the purchase of Russian Orlan-10E reconnaissance UAVs has been confirmed, with a total of six drones ordered. The dates of admission were also not disclosed.

According to available information, Bishkek will pay a total of almost $ 2 million for three Turkish Bayraktar TB10s and six Russian Orlan-17Es, Shephard Defense Insight reported.

Earlier, the deputy head of the Kyrgyz government, Kamchybek Tashiev, said that the country's Defense Ministry will receive Turkish and Russian drones, funds for their purchase have already been allocated. Explaining the choice of Bayraktar TB2 as drums, Tashiev said that they are in service with five countries of the world. The official noted that the Kyrgyz servicemen are already undergoing appropriate training in Turkey.

Note that Turkey is rather briskly promoting its Bayraktar TB2 drones on the world arms market, purchases have already been made in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. Kyrgyzstan became the first CSTO country to also purchase these UAVs.

Comments

[Saigaved]

Kyrgyzstan in the CSTO? Then why does she need NATO drones in Turkey? Kyrgyzstan is the zone of influence of Russia, so let them buy only our weapons. Today are drones, and tomorrow what are the bases of Turkey?

[alexmach]

Kyrgyzstan in the CSTO? Then why does she need NATO drones in Turkey?

It's hard to answer so unequivocally .. maybe in order to defend your country? No, some kind of stupidity, it can't be like that ...

so let them buy only our weapons

What would they buy it, it is necessary that someone would sell it, isn't it? Russia lagged behind in drones, even from Turkey. So they buy strangers.

[Saigaved]

RUSSIA lagged behind in drones ??? Russia has developed excellent drones and unmanned aerial vehicles for a long time, the same ZALA Group make their excellent UAVs. Maybe we are still somewhere behind ???

[alexmach]

RUSSIA lagged behind in drones ???

Isn't it obvious?

the same ZALA Group make their excellent UAVs

These are scouts of a "smaller" class in comparison with the same TB-2. And they entered the market much later than the same Bayraktar.
In fact, the majority of Russian drones, except for the smallest detail, are now at the level of models and exhibition specimens.Turkish drones are already in the army in hundreds, have taken part in several conflicts, and are sold for export. Lagged behind for years, from Turkey, from the United States for decades.

Maybe we are still somewhere behind ???

M ... enumerate?

[Tusv]

Quote: alexmach

It lagged behind for years, from Turkey, from the United States for decades.

I agree, we are lagging behind the US, behind Israel, behind Canada, but we are not inferior to the Turks, because the only Turkish thing in the TB is the glider, everything else is Canadian-American. So the Turks only have a screwdriver and PR. How many Pantsirs have they snapped up? You can't even count them. At least more than the United Arab Emirates gave to Libya ten times over. And in reality? And with us. Well, all the footage of the reunification of the Barmaleys with the Gurias was filmed from Orion and similar "not very good" UAVs. Since 2015

[Dikson]

Especially if you compare the picture from drones ..- this lag becomes visible to the naked eye .. just in the number of pixels .. in the clarity of the picture ..

[alexmach]

because as turkish in tb only glider

And with us it is "all" whose? Rotech engine, French optics, Chinese electronics?

Well, all the footage of the reunion of the Barmaley with the Guria was shot from Orion and similar "not kinky" UAVs. since on 2015 year

Nonsense. Orions in the army is the only one honeymoon party that was swept away, if I am not mistaken, only last year.

[Tusv]

Quote: alexmach

Nonsense. Orions in the army is the only one honeymoon party that was swept away, if I am not mistaken, only last year.

If this is nonsense, then we get high-resolution footage of the destruction of the barmaley from space. Both are disputed by the West, but how does it work, moreover, like that Big Ben or native Chimes

[Kuroneko]

Nonsense.
Russia just entered the UAV race a little late.
But where the UAV is, there is radio communication. I hope you don’t need to remind us that we are the world leaders in electronic warfare systems? So the lag (in fact, I would already talk about parity, there is simply no mass presence in the heavy segment, it is expensive - and everything is at the highest level in exploration) - is imaginary.
And the Bayraktars were skillfully promoted by Turkey in two wars against the Papuans. Libya and Karabakh. Something in the same Syria, they do not particularly shine.
I'm more interested in what the Turks will come up with when they run out of Canadian motors. Nenka did not live up to expectations for new engines.

[Tusv]

Quote: Kuroneko

Russia just entered the UAV race a little late.

For the time being, Russia is fighting only in Syria, where there is an almost no-fly zone. (For what the hell, Jews and Yankees are allowed to fly) From the UAV, scouts are mainly needed there and the stump is clear if Crocodiles from the Su-34 are discharged on a tip more sense

[Kuroneko]

Jews are not allowed. They usually carry out attacks from the territories of neighboring countries as carefully as possible.
Well, the mattresses are covered with supposedly anti-terrorist operations. Although their air activity after the arrival of Russia is already minimal.

[alexmach]

Russia just entered the UAV race a little late.

Well, I say, I was late and lagged behind.

I hope you don’t need to remind us that we are the world leaders in electronic warfare systems?

You o-o-very much overestimate the electronic warfare systems and their capabilities. And we are leaders only in ground-based electronic warfare systems, by the way. The most useless.

it's just that there is no mass character in the heavy segment, it is expensive - but in exploration everything is at the highest level

MALE is yours, it's like a medium segment, not a heavy one. And yes, it's not massive. And they are also used as reconnaissance aircraft.

And the Bayraktars were skillfully promoted by Turkey in two wars against the Papuans.

So, the same Orions were late for the war against the Papuans for PR.

Something in the same Syria, they do not particularly shine.

Well, yes, just once they stopped the offensive on Idlib.

[Kuroneko]

I read your comment. I thought for a long time.
What are the "most useless electronic warfare systems"? No, I understood that you meant land, but this does not answer the question well in any way.
I would like to ask - and there are wars for underwater or flying cities, but probably not worth it. The doctor said to the morgue, which means to the morgue. Useless are useless.

[alexmach]

I would like to ask - are there wars for underwater or flying cities?

and an airborne REB, in your opinion, is it only suitable for a war for air cities?
really

The doctor said to the morgue - it means to the morgue

[Airdefence_107]

Did they completely stop it? There was a large group of Turkish ground forces in Idlib that was directly involved in the conflict. After Buki was pulled up, Assad continued the offensive. I do not think that Orion lags behind Bayraktar in terms of characteristics. From combat experience it is possible, but it can be made up pretty quickly. The Hunter is well ahead of the Turkish MIUS, which has not yet entered the prototype stage. Although, according to its characteristics, the Hunter is the best shock drone in the world.

[alexmach]

Did they completely stop it?

Well ... maybe not completely, but it seems like where they were stopped then there to this day they are.
They did not take the M4 highway, what can we say about the entire province.

There was a large group of Turkish ground forces in Idlib

Of course, well, not one type of weapon to fight then.

I don't think Orion lags behind Bayraktar in terms of characteristics

He lags behind him in time, by 5 years.

Although, according to its characteristics, the Hunter is the best shock drone in the world.

A hunter is generally a prototype, there is, in principle, nothing to talk about yet.

[Airdefence_107]

Do you doubt that Russia will be able to overtake Turkey in the number of serially produced UAVs? Here you must first of all understand that Turkey has relied on UAVs, not being able to produce combat fighters and attack aircraft. And then. They are suitable for participation in local conflicts with an enemy that does not have modern air defense (well-built and in the proper quantity, of course). Of course, the Hunter is a prototype that is already being tested. But his Turkish rival is still on paper. By the way, they want to do MIUS with Ukrainian engines.

[alexmach]

Do you doubt that Russia will be able to overtake Turkey in the number of serially produced UAVs?

I state the fact that now it is lagging behind both in quantity and in production capabilities and in the experience of applying and exporting technologies in this direction. This is a fact, and it may or may not be able to predict, conjecture and speculation. Maybe it can, maybe not, maybe in a year, maybe in 15 - 20, maybe something will happen at all that it will not be interesting to anyone in principle. There can be a lot of things.

Here you must first of all understand that Turkey has relied on UAVs, not being able to produce combat fighters and attack aircraft.

This is not a very obvious statement. Until recently, Turkey had the opportunity to purchase any aircraft, even NATO, even Russian, even Chinese, at least some. Most likely, they made a bet on the UAV for other reasons.

They are suitable for participation in local conflicts with an enemy that does not have modern air defense (well-built and in the proper quantity, of course).

Also not the most obvious assumption.
But.
First, the wars of the 21st century are likely to be the very "low intensity conflicts"
Next - Show me this very enemy with a competently built air defense and in the right amount. In the same Russia, the bulk of the military air defense is Osa, Strela-10 and other MANPADS, that is, exactly the same as was used in the same Karabakh, for example, and in rather modest quantities ... Everyone else is not a little better.
And last but not least, who said that they will not find application in larger conflicts? In the very same Karabakh Azerbaijan fought by no means only with drones.

Of course, the Hunter is a prototype that is already being tested.

Yes, only this is generally a device with an unworked concept of use, in contrast to the same Bayraktars and Harops that have already passed through a couple of conflicts. It may turn out to be a successful solution, or it may be a completely failed concept, or it may just be a stand for testing technologies that will shoot somewhere in another product. The hunter at the moment is something from which it is not yet entirely clear what will come of it at all. But yes, I agree, the Turks do not seem to have such a thing yet. But Russia, too, does not seem to have it yet ...

[BARKAS]

We now need to develop electronic warfare so that we can drop these UAVs!

[Grits]

Quote: Saigaved

Russia has developed excellent drones and drones for a long time.

"Developed" and "produced in mass quantities" is a very big difference. We will release a new technique in the form of a couple of copies and shout to the whole world about "having no analogues in the world." And then they experience it for 15 years.
And Turkish tractors - here they are - you can feel, touch with your hands. Buy as much as you like. In addition, already in several military conflicts, they have been tested and successfully shown themselves.

[Tusv]

Quote: Gritsa

this is a very big difference. We will release a new technique in the form of a couple of copies and shout to the whole world about "having no analogues in the world"

[Quote] [/ quote]
First of all, there are no journalists talking about the world. and secondly, the bourgeois believe them. There is strict parity in almost all armaments, but where is it not? Buy an extreme tour

[Victorio]

Quote: Tusv

First of all, there are no journalists talking about the world.

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[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

... even from Turkey ..... And what about the lag of Turkey itself ??!?! Or is Turkey already at the armament Olympus ?!

[isv000]

Quote: alexmach

Russia lagged behind in drones, even from Turkey.

In the Union, there were drones when someone did not even think about their creation ...

[alexmach]

In the Union, there were drones when someone did not even think about their creation ...

AND? does this somehow affect the deplorable situation with drones now?
By the way, I almost forgot .. they don't only have drones, they also have an AAS for them, and on the basis of mass-produced conventional ammunition ...

[helloween]

As if the CSTO is an organization only on paper. There is not a single joint solution in common

[Serg65]

Quote: alexmach

Russia lagged behind in drones, even from Turkey. So they buy strangers.

Everything is much more prosaic ... Kyrgyzstan has revived the ancient and very profitable business of human trafficking! We are a little man for you, and what are you to us? This is what became the drones!

[Prisoner]

Well, why why?

[Tim werner]

propose to turn off the gas for them?

[svp67]

Quote: Saigaved

Then why does she need NATO drones in Turkey?

Maybe so that we would get to know them "closer" That's right, version ...

[tralflot1832]

And the price did not bother you with $ 17 million, Erdogan engaged in charity work, or is it little used after Karabakh?

[Serg65]

Quote: tralflot1832

And the price did not bother you with $ 17 million, Erdogan took up charity work

This is the price of the person Erdagan needs! Human trafficking however!

[Bez 310]

Quote: Saigaved

Kyrgyzstan in the CSTO? Then why does she need NATO drones in Turkey?

"The question is, of course, interesting ..."
Turkey to NATO? Then why does she need our S-400 air defense systems?

[for]

Quote: Saigaved

Kyrgyzstan in the CSTO? Then why does she need NATO drones in Turkey?

Turkey to NATO! Then why does she need the CSTO S-400 of Russia?

[Yuriy71]

Let me tell you a secret - exactly SO - tomorrow there are Turkish bases there! In addition, in five, at least, countries of the "Turkic world"! "The Russian world is shrinking and resting"!

[isv000]

Quote: Saigaved

Kyrgyzstan in the CSTO? Then why does she need NATO drones in Turkey?

Exactly then, why does Turkey need S-400 and Greece S-300 ...

[prohax]

Kyrgyzstan does not need Russian rubbish. The Turks make the best weapons in the world. The whole world is now buying Turkish weapons.

[Serg65]

Quote: prohax

The whole world is now buying Turkish weapons.

Your Ukraine, not the whole world yet!

[Tim werner]

But what about the Orions?
Our developers and the military assured that they were superior to Bayraktars.
Kyrgyzstan is a member of the CSTO

[alexmach]

But what about the Orions?

We were 5 years late. That's all.

[donavi49]

Chinese Tigers instead of Russian, Chinese Shanksi instead of Kamaz in 2019.

Chinese air defense systems Flying Leopard 6C with control points instead of Russian in 2020.


Therefore, it is obvious that the CSTO does not play much here. In general, the Aselsan plant works in Kazakhstan.

The new armored personnel carrier will also be the Turkish Army, apparently.

I am already silent about the Thales radar, which are purchased by VTA, they even ordered two A-400s.

On September 1, 2021, Airbus Group announced the conclusion of a contract for the supply of two turboprop four-engine military transport aircraft A400M to the armed forces of Kazakhstan. The delivery of the first of these is due in 2024.

A UAV Kazakhstan bought in China - CH-4. So much for the CSTO.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Tim Werner

But what about the Orions?

So far they are just learning to fall.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Tim Werner

But what about the Orions?
Our developers and the military assured that they were superior to Bayraktars.
Kyrgyzstan is a member of the CSTO

Orion-RU was tested in Syria, and videos showed it strikes against militants on the federal channel.

The Russian reconnaissance and strike unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) "Orion" has been successfully tested in Syria in combat conditions. The footage of drone missions in the Arab Republic was shown on the evening of February 21 by the TV channel "Russia-1".

In total, to date, the combat vehicle has flown 38 sorties. 20 of them were reconnaissance, in 17 raids the device struck ground targets of terrorists, and another 1 was carried out for other purposes. A report by Russia-1 war correspondent Aleksandr Rogatkin contains a video recording the use of weapons from the Orion UAV. The exact date of the tests in combat conditions has not been disclosed.

The device was developed by the "Kronstadt" group. The first sample of the Orion UAV for flight tests was manufactured in 2015, it was delivered to the Gromov Flight Research Institute in 2016. In 2017, an export version of the drone was presented. In 2018, the first tests were carried out in a combat situation in Syria without the use of weapons. The reconnaissance and strike drone has a maximum take-off weight of 1 kilograms and a payload of up to 150 kilograms. The flight duration is 250 hours.

https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/02/22/v-sirii-uspeshno-ispytan-rossiyskiy-udarnyy-dron-orion

... The general director of the Kronstadt company said that the Russian Orion drones are superior in technical and combat capabilities to the Turkish Bayraktars. This was reported by the news agency Interfax (IF).

IF quotes the words of the general director of the company "Kronstadt" Sergei Bogatikov: "Now everyone compares our" Orion "with the Turkish" Bayraktar ". But if "Bayraktar" were created in Russia, it would not have passed the state tests according to our requirements. We are confident in our "Orion" - it surpasses the Turkish colleague in many respects. "

Let's compare the flight characteristics of these drones. Orion: payload - 200/250 kg, combat radius - 250/300 km, cruising speed - 120/200 km-h, service ceiling 7,5 / 8 km, maximum flight time - 24 hours. Orion's set of weapons is impressive: small-caliber bombs KAB-20, FAB-50, planning bombs UPAB-50, homing missile X-50. The quality of Avionics is not discussed in open sources.

Bayraktar: payload 120 kg; cruising speed 130 km-h; practical ceiling 8,2 km; combat radius 150 km, maximum flight time 24 hours. Armament: laser-guided UMTAS anti-tank missiles with a launch range of 0,5-8 km; corrected gliding high-precision bombs Roketsan MAM-C, MAM-L, capable of striking stationary and moving objects at a distance of up to 8 km.

As we can see, the characteristics are generally comparable, but experts note that Bayraktar's observation system has optics with low resolution. That is, this drone does not see a camouflaged target.

We remind you that the Russian army intends to adopt several promising heavy drones. Sirius is capable of carrying a payload of 450 kg. "Helios - RLD" develops a speed of up to 450 km / h; carries up to 800 kg of ammunition, its maximum flight range is 3 thousand km; practical ceiling 11 km; the maximum time spent in the air is 30 hours.

S-70 "Hunter": capable of carrying a combat load of 2,8 / 8 tons; combat radius of 3 thousand km; practical ceiling 18 km; maximum speed 1000/1400 km-h. "Altius": service ceiling exceeds 12 km, payload 1/2 t; cruising speed 150-250 km / h, flight duration up to 48 hours; the maximum flight range is 10 thousand km.

https://argumenti.ru/army/2021/10/744478

[private person]

We remind you that the Russian army intends to adopt several promising heavy drones.

You see, I only intend to adopt it, but now only prototypes. Meanwhile, the Turkish nightmares to the fullest.

[Orange bigg]

And why are we in a hurry somewhere? The work is being carried out systematically.

We remind you that the Russian army intends to adopt several promising heavy drones.

We are talking about heavy drones of the C-70 Okhotnik type. Turkey is also just preparing to adopt its heavy drones.

.Here you see only intends to adopt, and now only prototypes. Meanwhile, the Turkish nightmares to the fullest.

Well, here we are talking about Bayraktars and Anka-S. In my post above, I gave a video of the use of the Orion-RU drone in Syria. We, too, are nightmares of who we need.

[alexmach]

And that we are in a hurry somewhere?

Well, at least MALE is already late to the international market.

In my post above, I gave a video of the use of the Orion-RU drone in Syria. We, too, are nightmares of whoever we need.

It is very good that Orion was tested in Syria, but they are just an experimental batch + in fact, 6 sets were informally promised to be delivered this year, but there are no reports about this yet ...
And the Turks have been supplying bayraktars to themselves and to their allies for a couple of years already, there have already gone hundreds of dollars.

[Tusv]

Quote: private person

You see, I only intend to adopt it, but now only prototypes. Meanwhile, the Turkish nightmares to the fullest.

So our dashing nightmares of the barmaleev

[kventinasd]

Quote: OrangeBigg

In my post above, I gave a video of the use of the Orion-RU drone in Syria. We, too, are nightmares of whoever we need.

Now look at the guidance system of the Bayraktars and the Orions. The Orions have a drunk operator with shaking hands, filming a video on the "most" advanced iron.

[Tusv]

Quote: kventinasd

Now look at the guidance system of the bayraktars and the orions. For the Orions, it is as if a drunk operator with shaking hands shoots a video on the "most" advanced iron.

Uncle. The Turks lack advanced guidance systems as a class. The Americans simply did not transfer such technologies, and the Jews blocked any military-technical cooperation with Erdogan ten years ago.

[Tusv]

Minus Two. This is too much for Israel in the top One. Native Paramilitary is already training on hyper sound

[Jacket in stock]

Well, what can I say, the Turks are great. They are skillfully promoting both their drones and their Turan at the same time.
But what are our diplomats doing?

[senima56]

"But what are our diplomats doing?" How what? In the absence of their own UAVs, they are trying to cheat on strangers!

[Nafanya from the sofa]

To develop electronic warfare systems and other methods and ways of combating Bayraktars - 3 units with a control system - this is "the very thing". Surely "Almaz-Antey" financed the Kyrgyz. You see, in six months or a year, Ukrainian "Flagbearers" will start falling in droves in the DPR-LPR.

[senima56]

"Turkey is rather briskly promoting its Bayraktar TB2 drones on the world arms market; purchases have already been made in Europe, the Middle East and Africa."
One short conflict, and now the Turks have no end of orders.
And we, the aviation power, have been testing, trying, trying everything for more than ten years, creating a strike UAV. And all we have is the outdated Israeli ZALA!
As anyone, but to me: "It's a shame for the state!"

[Looking for]

How long can this Russian "concomitance" last ???

[Bshkaus]

I drew attention to one feature of the bayraktar's weaponry: the technique is beating with a bang, and for sure, but with manpower there is a problem: after a direct hit, the people get up and shake themselves off calmly. This can be clearly seen in the recent video of the D30 howitzer being rolled out by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and in numerous videos of the use of bayraktar by Azerbaijanis. The Armenians, surprisingly, did the same.

[pytar]

I noticed one peculiarity of the Bayraktar's armament: it hits equipment with flying colors, and accurately, but there is a problem with manpower: after a direct hit, people stand up, shake themselves off and calmly disperse. This is clearly seen in a recent video of how the Ukrainian Armed Forces rolled out a D30 howitzer and in numerous videos of the use of Bayraktars by Azerbaijanis.

Different ammunition is used to hit different targets. If the goal is to destroy armored vehicles or a howitzer, use cumulative, as in the case of the D-30. The gun itself was disabled after being hit, the service staff also suffered, but not critically. After this, it is unlikely that they will soon come in condition. And if the infantry is in light cover or in trucks, they hit them with high-explosive fragmentation. There were many examples in the Karabakh war.
Bayraktars, and all UAVs, are very dangerous weapons! They killed a considerable number of soldiers and destroyed a lot of equipment. A soldier's life is irretrievable, and even if they shoot down Bayraktars, which is quite difficult, they will knock them up again, the conveyor belt is working. In fact, another revolution in military affairs is happening before our eyes! The Turks were ahead, having assessed the prospects of this direction in time. The next step is fully robotic systems of artificial intelligence, operating under water, on water, on land, in the air and in space. Lagging behind, as always in history, promises big problems...

[Bshkaus]

If the goal is to destroy armored vehicles or a howitzer, use cumulative, as in the case of the D-30.

Thank you, I guess that the matter is in the projectile, but how the Armenians' manpower was crumbled was, so to speak, according to the residual principle, an inappropriate type of charge.
I completely agree about the revolution. Not many people realized it

[Tank hard]

The chief operator Bayraktarov from Bulgaria shared his knowledge.)))

[Pastor]

That's right, wait until everyone buys drones and sell the means of their destruction and fight against them. We are waiting for demonstration performances in Donbass

[Old ensign]

The Kyrgyz are a Turkic people. Turkey is closer to them than Russia. They put a big bolt on the CSTO.

[Humpty]

Quote: Old ensign

The Kyrgyz are a Turkic people. Turkey is closer to them than Russia. They put a big bolt on the CSTO.

You have a curve globe.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Old ensign

Kirghiz are a Turkic people

The Kirghiz are not a Turkic people, but a Turkic-speaking people. These are two big differences. Ethnically, they are closer to the Mongols, who, by the way, still use the Cyrillic alphabet, not the Latin alphabet. And they are not going to change it, unlike the corrupt authorities of Kazakhstan, etc.

[Tank hard]

They were simply not given money for it. As soon as they give it, they will immediately change the alphabet.))

[Serg65]

Quote: Tank Hard

As soon as they give it, they will immediately change the alphabet.))

Yeah, right now .......
Welcome

[Tank hard]

Quote: Serg65

Welcome

Hello, land!

[Serg65]

Quote: Ingvar 72

The Kyrgyz are not a Turkic people, but a Turkic-speaking

Who are the Turks then?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Serg65

Who are the Turks then?

Sergey, this is for you to google, to study. But there is a difference between the Türks and the Türkic-speaking, this is elementary.

[Serg65]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Sergey, this is for you in Google, study

Those. you expressed your theory, and send me to Google to confirm it or refute it?

Quote: Ingvar 72

there is a difference between the Türks, and the Türkic-speaking

Yes ... I agree. Turks - who are they?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Serg65

Those. you expressed your theory

For the gifted, the Kyrgyz are a Mongoloid group of peoples, and they have a very indirect relationship to the artificially invented group of Turkic peoples. Because unification into one group only on the basis of the linguistic principle is pure nonsense, needed only to promote a political idea.

[Serg65]

Quote: Ingvar 72

For the gifted - Kyrgyz Mongoloid group of peoples

Igor, you will be very surprised, but the proto-Türks are the same Mongoloid group of peoples and their direct descendants are the Altaians !!!
Learn history, my friend!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Serg65

Learn history, my friend!

You should learn some history yourself, Sergei.
For the Kirghiz are racially different from the legislators of the Turkic idea.
And the idea is linguistic, and nothing more.

[Serg65]

Quote: Ingvar 72

You should learn some history yourself

Well, my dear friend ... I will give you a lecture on the Turks!
The homeland of the Turks is the southern Altai! The Turks were the people of the Mongoloid race, in our time, Altai, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Karakalpaks are considered their descendants - they are also Kypchaks. Turks, Turkmens, Azerbaijanis, southern Uzbeks, Uighurs, descendants of the Turkified Sogdians and Karluks. The Bashkirs are the descendants of the Teles, and they, in turn, are the ethnic descendants of the Huns and are also Turkic!

Quote: Ingvar 72

Kyrgyz rassovo differ from the legislators of the Turkic idea

What are you all around the bush, just like a real communist! Tell me straight ... the Turks are true Turks! but it is not!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Serg65

in our time, Altai, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Karakalpaks are considered their descendants - they are also Kypchaks.

This pseudoscientific union of peoples by language is out of hand. With the same success one can call an English-speaking Negro an Englishman, and his ethnic brother from Mali a Frenchman.

[Serg65]

Quote: Ingvar 72

This is a pseudoscientific union of peoples by language.

Okay, so you speak Russian, but are you an ethnic Russian?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Serg65

are you ethnic russian?

Yes, I am. There are three bloods in me, Belarusian, Little Russian and Great Russian.
You either deliberately go into the wild, or ......
The Slavic group of peoples is related both by blood and language. Finno-Ugric by the way too. German too. But among the Türks with a blood relationship, byada!

[Serg65]

Quote: Ingvar 72

But among the Türks with a blood relationship, byada!

Yes, there is no trouble ... there are direct descendants of the Turks and there are Turkic ones, i.e. Türkic-speaking .... as, for example, the Türkic-speaking Bulgars became Slavic Bulgarians after becoming Slavic!

[Humpty]

Quote: tralflot1832

the price did not bother you with $ 17 million, Erdogan took up charity work

Probably the Turks provided a discount for a crime committed by "unknown persons" on the territory of Kyrgyzstan against a citizen of Kyrgyzstan, formerly a citizen of Turkey, an important Gulenist.

[Serg65]

Welcome Alexander!

Quote: Humpty

Probably the Turks gave a discount for the crime

The discount went into your pocket, and this is the price for that citizen! Human trafficking is an old gesheft of the Kokand Khanate!

[Humpty]

Greetings! The barmatractor is understandable why. This is not only the subject of kargokult, but also frighten the Tajik babayka. It is hard to believe that it will help. With a helicopter, more practical targets. In our, available, shalman even fly to swell on the pasture is not camilfo. Easy to overload.

[Dikson]

This is what advertising does to people..))) Regarding the technical advantages of our drones.. - well, who wouldn't praise their products.. Only the Turkish ones fight and are bought up, and ours are tested and participate in exhibitions..

[Ros 56]

We only have to create an inexpensive air defense system so that these Bayraktars can be snapped like nuts and we will also be popular.

[p0pulivox]

According to available information, Bishkek will pay a total of almost $ 2 million for three Turkish Bayraktar TB10s and six Russian Orlan-17Es.

Of course, who will be the payer in the end is an interesting question. It is possible that we will be them ...

[Clochard]

Diplomatically, it will be: - UAV made in Turkey.
Author, edit, otherwise the Turkish Foreign Ministry will "arrive"

[Tank hard]

Clochard, is that like a bum from French?

[Clochard]

Well, what is the question?

[Covid]

Of course, the Turks will make good money on them. Of course, sooner or later they will find an effective means of fighting them. But for now, the world is a Klondike for the Turks. They did this a year ago in Syria at the beginning of the year. When Vladimir Vladimirovich and Assad decided to finally clear Idlib from Assad's opposition. But this meant that three million more refugees would come to Turkey. The offensive begins. But against an enemy without air defense and air force. And then Türkiye gets involved. The Bayraktars collected good bloody booty there.
Operation Spring Shield.

[Tank hard]

And what's the use ?! Who will manage them there? Sane education in general and technical education in particular has long been buried in the country. Soon the last Russians will end there and a paragraph. Some kind of circus.))

[Serg65]

Quote: Tank Hard

And what's the use ?!

uh brother, what good is it, a hundred pounds already and there is a buyer in the third person!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Serg65

a hundred pounds already and the buyer is in the third person!

It cannot be taken away there.

[svoit]

Quote: BARKAS

We now need to develop electronic warfare so that we can drop these UAVs!

It will no longer be electronic warfare, but something like a beam weapon, it is necessary to concentrate at a certain point in space, at a distance in the future of tens of kilometers. significant EMP to burn out the electronics of the UAV.
(moreover, the bunch of energy should be significant, since even a lightning striking the plane practically does not harm it)

Quote: OrangeBigg

Bayraktar: payload 120 kg; cruising speed 130 km-h;

here it is not only about this, but also about the physical size and EPR. If UAVs can shoot down air defense systems of a class less than BUK, then no one needs it.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

It is necessary to ask the Kirghiz in a friendly way to let our scientific research institute of MO disassemble)

[prohax]

Kyrgyzstan does not need Russian rubbish. The Turks make the best weapons in the world. The whole world is now buying Turkish weapons.

[st2st]

In the CSTO, we are the dominant member state. Kyrgyzstan, also in the CSTO. So, maybe, Shoigu, not to hold tank biathlons, and at cruising speed to produce young snotty generals, but, to engage in FORCING members of the organization to buy, namely, Russian weapons. The Americans, without a twinge of conscience, shove their weapons into NATO members, and nothing else. This is fine . And we are all afraid of offending someone

[UA3QHP]

Now we will find out exactly how his communication channels work.