"To the war with Ukraine": The network is discussing a snapshot of Russian T-72s with "sun visors"

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Russian Tanks T-72Bs with turret-mounted visors were spotted in southern Russia. A snapshot of a military echelon carrying the above equipment appeared on the Web.

As stated in the explanation, the picture was taken in Krasnodar while the train was moving through the station. It clearly shows at least two tanks equipped with so-called "sun canopies" or "anti-javelin protection". It is not known where the echelon went, perhaps for the next exercises, perhaps already from the exercises, but this is not the most important thing. These tanks from social networks have already been sent to the "war with Ukraine".



Many commentators suggest that Russia is moving tanks closer to the border with Ukraine in connection with the latest events on the contact line, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine have established control over the village of Staromaryevka in the "gray zone". Allegedly, these tanks are preparing for a possible military conflict in the framework of forcing Ukraine to peace. And the structures installed on the tanks are designed to protect the upper part of the turret of the tanks from the Javelin ATGMs attacking the target from above.

Of course, this is only an assumption, and not supported by anything, there are no official statements or messages on this topic. In general, the Ministry of Defense did not even comment on the appearance of these very "sun visors", first shown in June 2021 at the shooting in the Rostov region. Later, a source in the military department explained that this is additional protection against tandem ammunition.

By the way, the West could have familiarized themselves with this photograph, after which they expressed concern about the "unusual movements" of Russian troops near the borders of Ukraine.
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    1. +79
      31 October 2021 10: 29
      "To the war with Ukraine": The network is discussing a snapshot of Russian T-72s with "sun visors"
      Maybe so, or maybe these tanks arrived from our 201 base, after being replaced by T-72B3 ... Our tanks, wherever we want, we carry there.
      1. +58
        31 October 2021 10: 36
        Our tanks, where we want, we carry there.(C)
        That's right !!! hi
        And then the atoshnegs saw a couple of tanks, already the farts rushed lolAnd already three couch ukrovoena slapped a minus laughing
        1. +14
          31 October 2021 12: 21
          Well, you will forgive them for the "minuses", it is now hard for them from the front line to read all the comments ...)
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      3. +5
        31 October 2021 10: 50
        Maybe so, or maybe these tanks from our 201 base arrived, after being replaced by T-72B3 ...

        Why do they have desert camouflage?
        1. +64
          31 October 2021 10: 56
          The paint has burnt out. And not visors at all - this is the resting place of the tank commander after lunch. Well, do not carry the bed with you
          1. +8
            31 October 2021 11: 55
            Quote: seregatara1969
            And not visors at all - this is the resting place of the tank commander in the afternoon. Well, do not carry the bed with you

            And why "peaks" are only on every third? Isn't it supposed to rest younger than the platoon commander?
            1. +1
              1 November 2021 11: 05
              In the presence of the commander, it is not allowed
          2. +8
            31 October 2021 12: 51
            No, this is the headquarters of the platoon commander, there is a ratio of one to three approximately. Three commanders gather and discuss the current combat situation
        2. +19
          31 October 2021 10: 58
          Quote: BARKAS
          Why do they have desert camouflage?

          We paint in whatever color we want
          1. +12
            31 October 2021 11: 18
            It is not a deserted summer steppe. Typical for the Rostov region for example
            1. +8
              31 October 2021 11: 23
              Quote: kytx
              It is not a deserted summer steppe. Typical for the Rostov region for example

              Strange, before that it was not marked there ... the Kadamovsky landfill of the Rostov region



              But the tanks 201 of our base ...

              1. +7
                31 October 2021 11: 31
                Take a close look at the tanks from the test site and the tanks in Kropotkin. This "innovation" is already used in two tank divisions.
              2. 0
                2 November 2021 08: 06
                When in 81-82 he served in the Mongolian People's Republic at the station, he saw a train with T-72 from Germany in green camouflage. Against the background of the Gobi sands, they were well, "almost invisible"!
            2. +11
              31 October 2021 11: 31
              The photo was taken at the Kropotkin station, Kavkazskaya station. And this photo is already several weeks old.
          2. 0
            2 November 2021 08: 02
            Well, yes! Look, there are pink, blue and red camouflages on the tank biathlon - our tanks, what we want camouflage, we will depict this!
        3. +12
          31 October 2021 11: 10
          Because a banderva from Ukraine will make a desert.
        4. +3
          31 October 2021 15: 34
          all tanks after the march look like this. The same with the faces of the crews.
        5. +3
          31 October 2021 21: 27
          This is obvious: the evil Russians will first create a desert by TOSami, and then tanks in such camouflage will be invisible. fellow
          In fact, someone really wants it not to go to Syria, for example, but against them "the only defenders of Europa".
          You are such, you gave a comment that, it seems, everyone unsubscribed. drinks
        6. +1
          1 November 2021 02: 18
          Quote: BARKAS
          Why do they have desert camouflage?

          After the exercise, any unwashed vehicle has a desert camouflage.
          1. +1
            1 November 2021 16: 11
            After the exercise, any unwashed vehicle has a desert camouflage.

            Che didn’t think I’m sorry.
        7. 0
          1 November 2021 12: 04
          Desert camouflage, most likely because in Ukraine, if they go exactly there, there will soon be a desert)))
        8. 0
          1 November 2021 21: 29
          Quote: BARKAS
          Why do they have desert camouflage?

          Well, first, nuclear weapons will turn Ukraine into a desert, and then the tanks will roll out the flag in a pretentious manner.
      4. -2
        31 October 2021 10: 57
        Quote: svp67
        Our tanks, where we want, we carry there.

        We eat, eat, eat to distant lands, good "neighbors" and "good friends" .. soldier
        Tra tata, tra tata we are "good friends" ..
        Something starts like that, I feel it ..
        1. +9
          31 October 2021 14: 16
          They went to the Stavropol Territory. To the landfill. There have been teachings recently. I say because I saw these tanks when I brought my son to the cadet school in Kropotkin.
      5. +15
        31 October 2021 11: 47
        The technique of the 201st base cannot be confused with anything, at least the demonstration unit.




        1. +3
          31 October 2021 12: 13
          Quote: donavi49
          The technique of the 201st base cannot be confused with anything, at least the demonstration unit.

          Apparently part of the command staff participated in the war in Syria, the Arab influence is directly felt.



          1. +3
            1 November 2021 10: 48
            Why such attempts? What if for tanks there are serial DZs of different types for sides (with rigid boxes and cloth boxes) and sets of factory grilles?
            1. +1
              1 November 2021 20: 52
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Why such attempts? What if for tanks there are serial DZs of different types for sides (with rigid boxes and cloth boxes) and sets of factory grilles?

              They are on parades and photos of the Ministry of Defense, they still have to get to the real units.
        2. 0
          31 October 2021 18: 03
          As if from the old strategy Soldiers of Anarchy :) Almost one to one :)
      6. 0
        31 October 2021 11: 48
        Quote: svp67
        maybe these tanks arrived from our 201 base, after replacing them with the T-72B3 ..

        Or maybe humanitarian aid? There is no point in modernizing, we will give it ... It is still necessary to strengthen the hulls, but we will paint these and will not stand out much. what
      7. 0
        31 October 2021 17: 31
        Quote: svp67
        Maybe so, or maybe these tanks from our 201 base arrived, after being replaced by T-72B3 ..

        And this may be true, because the color of the tanks is "desert". To fight on these either in Syria or in Central Asia.
        but if anything, in the Donbass they will be quickly repainted ... Moreover, it is autumn now ... yellow leaves are spinning ...
      8. 0
        1 November 2021 09: 05
        Sun visors look frankly dumb and by the way, how to quickly leave a burning car?
    2. +14
      31 October 2021 10: 38
      express concern about the "unusual movements" of Russian troops near the borders of Ukraine.
      but what is unusual? It seems like, according to the "non-brothers", "the war has been going on since 2014" between them and Russia. what laughing
      1. +15
        31 October 2021 10: 40
        Quote: Region-25.rus
        It seems like, according to the "non-brothers", "the war has been going on since 2014" between them and Russia.

        So they are afraid that Russia will come to it, and what then?
        1. +6
          31 October 2021 10: 41
          Again "boilers" and squeals "and we are for sho" lol
        2. +5
          31 October 2021 10: 41
          So they are afraid that Russia will come to it, and what then?
          I suspect that - "oh vey! We joked like that!"
    3. +18
      31 October 2021 10: 40
      As stated in the explanation, the picture was taken in Krasnodar

      This is Kropotkin, the Kavkazskaya junction. The picture was taken from a pedestrian bridge over a piece of iron. I once walked on it every day.
      1. +6
        31 October 2021 10: 44
        Which way do the trunks look? On or from 404?
        1. +8
          31 October 2021 10: 45
          I got it all wrong. Towards Rostov! It means 404.
          At first I wrote that from ... I fixed it.
          1. 0
            31 October 2021 23: 03
            Quote: Anarchist
            I got it all wrong. Towards Rostov! It means 404.
            At first I wrote that from ... I fixed it.

            ===
            kiosks to the station, trunks in the direction of gulkevichi. so kind of
            1. +2
              1 November 2021 05: 56
              Not this way. Bridge from the railway station towards Tikhoretsk. The Gulkevichs are on the other side.
              1. +1
                1 November 2021 13: 31
                Quote: Anarchist
                Not this way. Bridge from the railway station towards Tikhoretsk. The Gulkevichs are on the other side.

                ===
                I don’t know about the bridge, I didn’t go or I don’t remember. but the kiosks on the left, there is a train station. if it's Caucasian, of course
              2. +1
                1 November 2021 13: 59
                Quote: Anarchist
                Not this way. Bridge from the railway station towards Tikhoretsk. The Gulkevichs are on the other side.

                ===
                Now I looked again, but this is the station on the right (the kiosk embarrassed / obscured it), I thought there were some technical constructions for the station. then yes, trunks to Tikhoretsk
        2. HAM
          +1
          31 October 2021 10: 46
          From 404 countries ...
    4. -11
      31 October 2021 10: 44
      "To the war with Ukraine"

      We survived - the war with Ukraine ... Read disgusting! "The unbreakable union of free republics" (c) A soap bubble, and not only with Ukraine.
      1. +9
        31 October 2021 11: 34
        Well, if anything, so4 Ukraine is now America's best friend. A little earlier, some ancestors of the modern rulers of Ukraine welcomed the fascists. Children and grandchildren who now live in America, ruling in Ukraine.
      2. +4
        31 October 2021 14: 27
        You know, fifteen years ago I decided to watch the classic "A Clockwork Orange". The search engine gave me an interesting link about the operation of the RF Armed Forces against Ukraine with the title of the film. Then I thought, what kind of nonsense .. And that's how it happens.
        1. -2
          31 October 2021 16: 13
          Funny. smile
          And I just looked at the ratio "plus - minus" in myself and, in general, was not surprised, it was expected - there are exactly twice as many minuses than pluses. Well, is it any wonder that we now have what we have.
          1. -1
            31 October 2021 16: 19
            Yes, people stop thinking. The most delicious noodles are from the ears. The failures of Russian diplomacy (more precisely, hostile actions and carelessness) in the past thirty years have led to dire consequences
    5. +6
      31 October 2021 10: 46
      Awesome, promptly. And why without the author. We have already discussed this photo for two articles below. We are not distracted, we fry kebabs, we drink beer, we love women. Some continue to work. Everything is calm. drinks
      1. +3
        31 October 2021 11: 47
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Some continue to work.

        crying .aaaaa ... don't remind
    6. +3
      31 October 2021 10: 50
      A snapshot of a military echelon appeared on the Web ...
      This suggests that agents of the SBU and Ukrainian military intelligence have long been sitting on the routes of the trains, who not only inform about the movement of trains, but create the necessary noise on social networks about Russia's "aggressive" actions.
      As for the tanks, they correctly wrote above that on our territory where we want to go there and move.
      1. +1
        31 October 2021 11: 04
        Everything is correct. Moreover, judging by the direction of movement of the train, the equipment is sent to the PPD, and here already some tears are pouring, the poor Nenya is going to offend a Russian soldier. They create information noise, they say, not only have they quarreled with Ukraine, they have tortured everyone, but NATO is the only hope for the broads.
    7. +2
      31 October 2021 10: 53
      and the engine compartment is not covered
      1. -3
        31 October 2021 10: 57
        What?) DZ?)))
        1. +1
          31 October 2021 11: 04
          something, the javelin can hit the same place
      2. -3
        31 October 2021 11: 06
        And this "umbrella" decision is dubious. If at least some model were fired upon ...
        1. +2
          31 October 2021 11: 39
          You personally forgot to report what tests were carried out lol And who are you? At the forum, a former resident of Ukraine, so why should you carry reports from the Russian Ministry of Defense?
          1. +2
            31 October 2021 11: 49
            I am a tanker.
            And still, albeit partially suitable, but liable for military service.
            And I know that even side screens are a path of experience and error.
            And you, if you have nothing to say in essence ... Do not interfere with adult uncles.
            1. +3
              31 October 2021 11: 52
              An adult uncle, a tankman, and a clearly pro-Ukrainian orientation, a potential participant in the riots (for such, I believe, special records should be kept where necessary)
              I hope you understand that besides you, there are enough adult tankers in Russia, and you shouldn't consider all other members of the forum as schoolchildren. lol I have 17 calendars, "uncle" hi
              1. -8
                31 October 2021 13: 11
                I don't know what "17 calendars in mnu" are ...
                Probably something modern, slang. I got used to the Russian language, to the one that was taught back in the SOVIET school. Well, God bless them, with calendars ... There are a lot of young people, I don’t argue. There is little sense from them ...
                And thanks for the pro-Ukrainian orientation ... Usually, such zealous people immediately signed me up to the Bandera ... True, you can't see them black ... Sometimes they are banned, then they left ... They are very zealous ...
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                2. 0
                  31 October 2021 22: 02
                  do not know what "calendars" are ?! ANY SOVIET OFFICER knows this! So not an officer. Grade 8 or 9 th grade?
                  1. +1
                    31 October 2021 23: 02
                    My comment from above was removed, but those who have been in contact with me for a long time and so know that I do not have an officer's rank are discharged due to the state of the school. And in the 8th grade I was ... In 1988. But then there were 2 years KVTIU, institute and so on.
                    By the way, this site is not only for officers. So your "disclosure" is absolutely wasted ....
                    1. 0
                      1 November 2021 14: 59
                      Commissioned for health reasons, and not "commissioned for the state of the school", probably this is more correct. However, this does not change my opinion. And yes, it would be nice for you to find out from the servicemen what "calendars" are, 17 are only clean , and so by 30, everything is mine. hi
      3. -1
        31 October 2021 19: 35
        can not, he specially in the tower ... so oddly enough, but there is a healthy grain in this
    8. -2
      31 October 2021 10: 58
      These tanks from social networks have already been sent to the "war with Ukraine".

      Can I have examples of comments from these "social networks"?
      1. 0
        31 October 2021 11: 10
        Quote: Stepan S
        Can I have examples of comments from these "social networks"?

        For what?
        1. +2
          31 October 2021 11: 12
          For "Crying Yaroslavna" for the whole world. hi
        2. 0
          31 October 2021 12: 32
          For what?

          I understand that this is exactly what they write about in the article and this is one of the main messages of the article.
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        1. 0
          1 November 2021 22: 19
          The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine denied information spread in the media about the build-up of groups of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation near the Ukrainian border after the completion of the Russian-Belarusian exercises "West - 2021".
          TASS
          The Ministry of Defense noted that by November 1, they had not recorded the facts of an increase in the military presence of Russia in the form of units, weapons and military equipment near the Ukrainian border.
    9. +5
      31 October 2021 11: 01
      but really .. they are being taken somewhere and sometime .. why not write, as if this is for a war with Ukraine? Here the day before yesterday, a video with 7 Iskander scurrying along the highway was on the Internet .. so they also wrote - from near Bryansk - immediately to the front, unaccompanied and guarded ..)) But we drove beautifully ..
      1. +1
        31 October 2021 11: 49
        Well, what else Euro-Sumerians and their ukrovoEnam write / say? They need at least something to cover up their "Spanish shame" - their militarization and insolent shelling of the LPR-DPR. So they will lie that the Russian Federation is going to conquer them. Therefore, all the observed movements of equipment within the Russian Federation are solely for the purpose of conquering Euroshumer. There can be no other goal in the opinion of these people.
    10. +4
      31 October 2021 11: 16
      Who knows? In general, is it not a crime to post such information about the movement of military equipment on the Web? Is there no corresponding article in the Criminal Code?
      1. +2
        31 October 2021 11: 46
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        Who knows? In general, is it not a crime to post such information about the movement of military equipment on the Web? Is there no corresponding article in the Criminal Code?

        If the technique is openly carried in full view of everyone, what secrets can there be?
    11. +9
      31 October 2021 11: 45
      If Ukraine does not like the movement of Russian troops on Russian territory, then Ukraine can move farther from Russia and not worry.
      1. +1
        31 October 2021 11: 55
        Anywhere beyond Australia - it would be just that.
        The Euro-Sumerians would have brought out a special type of fat kangaroos, kangaroo fat would have been exported all over the world ... then they would have mastered the vodka to drive from thorns and cacti - branded, zaboristy. The Austalians would have sold it at night from under the floor. and there would be another peremog ... lol and Russia will not get it - far too much. Does anyone need Australia? Nafik has not fallen to anyone - so Euroshumeria would not have sucked anyone after moving to Australia. Without the LPR-DPR of course.
        1. +1
          31 October 2021 12: 25
          Nexcom ..... Anywhere for Australia - it would be just that.


          No ! Only to Canada! All the ardent Bendera men who had not been killed fled there. They founded a powerful anti-Soviet diaspora there,
          with the support of special services. Today Canada is a behind-the-scenes director of Russophobia among the Youngonatites, and Ukraine's main protégé in the West. Although Canada itself is the backyard of the United States. hi
          1. -1
            31 October 2021 14: 05
            yes, nedobitki and their descendants are a handful there. what is true is true. only in Canada they are already full, it will be too much if the Sumerians rush everything there.
            Then Canada will have to declare the third language state ...
        2. 0
          31 October 2021 22: 07
          Still, I am faithful, sho eihat won dovzhny tilka in the warehouse of four zapadensky regions.
          The rest of the areas of Uroshumeria are native RUSSIAN! The fact that a duped population lives there now does not change anything.
    12. -1
      31 October 2021 12: 02
      another nonsense. I have not seen it was not like that
    13. -8
      31 October 2021 12: 31
      Russians harness it for sooooo long ... and then abruptly back up.
      1. +7
        31 October 2021 13: 21
        Quote: iouris
        sharply back down.

        And crush "to death" overly commenting "curious"
      2. -1
        31 October 2021 14: 44
        Russians harness it for sooooo long ... and then abruptly back up.
        ... And they are finishing some of the cases that were not completed by their ancestors.
    14. +2
      31 October 2021 12: 48
      The picture shows 9 tanks, with only 2 visors. If you follow the logic, then only they go to the "war", otherwise everyone would be with visors, but this is not so. This means that no one is going to the "war", and the visors are experimental design work.
    15. +2
      31 October 2021 13: 09
      These echelons with tanks need to be constantly transported along the border with the Khokhloreikh so that they do not forget that at the first opportunity we will smash the Benderstad in full measure.
    16. 0
      31 October 2021 13: 25
      Quote: DrRey
      only 2. If you follow the logic, then ...

      Then these are command vehicles
    17. 0
      31 October 2021 13: 30
      they are driving and driving ... the film "The Column Name of the Southern Thunder" was being performed, so tanks were rolling there specially in front of the spy ...
    18. +7
      31 October 2021 14: 03
      I don't like all this. Ukraine is under full external control by the United States. Americans from Ukrainians have long been "pickling meat for barbecue" for the war with Russia. And the people for the most part do not even understand this. "Russia is the aggressor" and that's it! The thought does not go further. And who needs a war between Russia and Ukraine now. Lord, some kind of sur! They would have told me 30 years ago: the war between Russia and Ukraine - honestly, I would have stuffed my face! So the United States needs a BIG war in Europe, according to the old principle: the war will write off everything, and at the same time weaken the competitors. And, if you're lucky, Europe will fall in ruins along with Russia. Notice there is no Ukraine in all these layouts at all. This pseudo-state is needed only as a fuse and further should disappear along with the people, causing great damage to Russia. How to drag Poland and other European fools into this slaughter, there will be ways.
      1. -1
        31 October 2021 23: 15
        Quote: Nikolay Redko
        BIG war in Europe

        ===
        it is far from the fact that the war will be large and long. I will assume that the economic losses will then be enormous. and there are very big doubts that the people, especially the capitalists, are ready to tighten their belts
    19. 0
      31 October 2021 14: 08
      All these visors are a complete garbage, a Javelin rocket can hit the side on the complex, you can choose the methods of attack, and on Spikes, in general, use a fiber-optic cable to control the missile on TV guidance and hit any chosen place in the tower and hull.
      1. 0
        31 October 2021 19: 36
        1) Ukrainians do not have spikes, 2) an attack on the side is an interesting thing, but for this you need to enter from the flank, and this is dumb, since the vanguards dream of shooting our tanks from the midfielders, and not fighting them in the field
        1. +1
          31 October 2021 20: 26
          And what will prevent Javelin from directing the tank's hull to the forehead, his armor penetration of 800 mm beyond the DZ into the easy one will pierce, and yes, Ukraine has no Spikes today and will appear tomorrow.
          1. -1
            31 October 2021 20: 34
            Well, for example, the fact that there are great suspicions that 800 mm of penetration is without taking into account the remote sensing, i.e. bare armor, but with DZ it is not a fact that it will break through, otherwise the Americans would not have introduced an attack from above
    20. 0
      31 October 2021 14: 23
      not from a good life these "high-tech" visors, we need a KAZ with a complete overlap of the hemisphere, the survivability of tanks in battle will increase significantly, and then javelins and bayraktars do not care
    21. 0
      31 October 2021 14: 32
      Tanks, tanks ... Coal.
    22. +2
      31 October 2021 14: 33
      For the first time in all 130 thousand years of the existence of the Ukrainian civilization, they learned that the neighbors on the planet have tanks, real and very dangerous. This unpleasant news forced the Veliky to interrupt the planned repair of the roofs of the hatynoks with fresh straw. "These are TANKS," Svidomites suddenly realized. I had to throw everything and urgently cut down the flies on the trunks.
    23. +1
      31 October 2021 14: 46
      Yes on the railroad every day they carry something military and what? The most memorable was the train with modern self-propelled guns. They were all hit by shells and crumpled track guards. This is where our army managed to fight? I stood 1,5 meters from the train, waiting for the crossing through the railway to be free.
    24. +7
      31 October 2021 15: 26
      Quote: NordKaz
      We eat, eat, eat to distant lands, good "neighbors" and "good friends".

      It is better to eat in the mouth, you can travel to distant lands.
    25. +2
      31 October 2021 16: 28
      Well, since it is said that it is from the sun, it means from the sun. Apparently they did not serve in the army.
    26. +1
      31 October 2021 18: 04
      Old "Turtles" T-72B / B2
    27. 0
      31 October 2021 18: 42
      Quote: Vadim237
      All these visors are bullshit Javelin's rocket can also hit the side of the complex, you can choose the methods of attack, and on Spikes, in general, use a fiber-optic cable to control the missile on TV guidance and hit any chosen place in the tower and hull.

      In this case, I completely agree (I already wrote about this earlier).
      1. -2
        31 October 2021 19: 37
        laughing and how many spikes the APU has, do not tell me
        1. -1
          31 October 2021 20: 35
          With these T 72B and conventional ATGMs, the same Stugna P will cope with the firing range of 5500 meters and armor penetration for DZ 1100 mm until the 2018th APU delivered at least 240 launchers and 4000 missiles to them - they have nothing to oppose this modification of 72ki even if they shoot at the front of the tower - they will pierce without bothering. So these umbrellas will only fit the crew of the tank when the ammunition detonates from the hatches.
          1. -3
            31 October 2021 21: 48
            wow) it turns out that the Javelins went into the forest? and yes, how many spikes does the APU have?
            1. 0
              1 November 2021 23: 43
              Yes, in fact, that Javelins will use that Stugny with Contests - this T 72B with Contact 1 will come in all versions.
              1. -2
                1 November 2021 23: 48
                So the answer will be to the question about Spikes at the APU? Or is it customary to turn on the fool and not answer the question?
    28. -1
      31 October 2021 18: 51
      Kind of like Saratov, is there already a border?
    29. -2
      31 October 2021 18: 56
      Only two tanks with anti-javelin protection? Now the saturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with new anti-tank systems (Dzhevelin and mainly Stugna) is 3 units per LPNR tank. Old bassoons are not even counted, which is very "tight". so even with the intervention of the Russian Federation, the anti-tank defense will be quite serious, and the calculation with the Stugnaya or the Javelin is not a command post, radar, or the Grad installation, which can be destroyed by SU34 or Eskander. The ATGM operator appears out of nowhere, hits the target and disappears out of nowhere ...
      1. -1
        31 October 2021 19: 37
        those. back in 2014, we did not go into tank attacks, but now they will begin to arrange cavalry marches right now?
        1. +2
          31 October 2021 20: 38
          Now it is 2021 - and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are far from being the same as in 2014, both in terms of training and equipment.
          1. 0
            31 October 2021 21: 47
            And in your opinion, our troops were on the spot and were picking at the nose?
            1. -6
              31 October 2021 22: 34
              And in your opinion, our troops were on the spot and were picking at the nose?

              Well, let's start with the fact that "Arena-m" has not yet been adopted for armament. And the new tank protection complex with 3VD35 ammunition has just begun to enter the troops, but even here the question of the effectiveness of the aerosol cloud to shoot down laser guidance remains open and the high efficiency is questionable.
              those. back in 2014, we did not go into tank attacks, but now they will begin to arrange cavalry marches right now?

              that's exactly what they went, and if the LPR did not choke in Debaltseve, completely losing the potential for a further offensive, then now Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov and Nikolaev would have been part of the PRC, ONR, KhNR, NNR, etc. But this did not happen, far from political reasons, as many think, but thanks to the old Fagot, half of which were already inoperative, but also with the fact that it was “shooting” a lot of equipment was used.
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                1 November 2021 09: 49
                send excuses for 300..and you can not go because Russia doesn’t need your Kiev and Odessa for nothing?
          2. +2
            31 October 2021 22: 22
            Quote: Vadim237
            Now it is 2021 - and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are far from being the same as in 2014, both in terms of training and equipment.
            Yes ...
            The APU canceled the title ensign and introduced a rank system like in NATO
            They introduced new chevrons and changed the color of the berets.
            There was news about the replacement of UAZs ... but the UAZ is still there.
            Until the APU "do not get change tongue "for the endless shelling of Donbass, the impression is created" of power and invincibility angry ", grown up" young growth wassat "who thinks that only potatoes, porridge or vegetables can be cooked in the cauldron.
            There was also in Afghanistan prepared and equipped "government army soldier "...
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              2 November 2021 00: 16
              Javelins of the Armed Forces of Ukraine received a second contract in the amount of 37 pieces and 240 missiles, most likely the same large-caliber rifles. what they lost in 12.7 and 1000 they were supplied with a huge amount of equipment for night vision sights of communication systems for counter-battery warfare, command and control systems appeared, reconnaissance drones and kamikaze drones, and now shock Bayraktars began to supply Dana with ammunition for them, negotiations are underway on the supply of air and ground-based anti-tank missiles Brimstone in Ukraine mastered the production of 1200 mm shells for Hyacinths, cartridges of 2014 2015 caliber 152 mm, and now the production of cartridges 338 308 9, as well as NATO cartridges, and during this time they killed the entire backbone of the LDNR militia Brain Givi Motorola Batman Alexander Zakharchenko and so on - again I repeat The APU is no longer the army that was in 7.62 - it will be very difficult to drive them into the boilers now and it will cost huge losses. A little time will pass and the Armed Forces of Ukraine will have F 54 OTRK ATACMS fighters M 5.45 howitzers, helicopters Hugh Cobras Apaches MANPADS Stinger, and in the long term, Aegis missile defense systems SAM Spyder and Patriots - the West of Ukraine every year allocates a billion dollars for weapons and supplies every year become more voluminous.
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                2 November 2021 00: 31
                Quote: Vadim237
                - the west of Ukraine every year allocates a billion dollars for weapons and supplies become more voluminous every year.

                And how much did the West add $, weapons and military experts to the government "army" of Afghanistan ???
                sad
      2. 0
        31 October 2021 22: 15
        did you serve in the army? or only on films about the Second World War?
    30. -1
      31 October 2021 21: 54
      they have, like, the color "desert". how could they go to the Donbass. brothers near the border of Perny, so they say that chem. the weapon was used.
    31. -2
      1 November 2021 00: 13
      This is a disguise, comrades. So that satellites can see that these are not tanks. And the houses ... for hohlyatsky pigs - Nif-Nifashenko, Naf-Nafatsevich and Nuf-Nuftsenko.
    32. -3
      1 November 2021 03: 47
      Scary lads !!! ??? Do not be afraid. As long as we have this power, it is allowed to "spit" on Russia to all anyone and as much as they want !!! Our "strategy" is such an odd one.
    33. -1
      1 November 2021 04: 02
      ours ride on exercises .. and BANDERLOGS in power .. Ukraine .. let them wipe their pants!
    34. +1
      1 November 2021 08: 18
      The picture shows not the Krasnodar-1 railway station.
      Here it is below
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    36. +1
      1 November 2021 08: 21
      The picture does not show the Krasnodar station. Some kind of hat.
      Here it is:
      1. +1
        1 November 2021 21: 35
        Your truth, Bratskoe Heart, is NOT the Krasnodar station in the picture. The picture shows the station of the city of Kropotkin, Krasnodar Territory, namely, this is the Kavkazskaya station. It is difficult to confuse him, if all childhood on this bridge to kindergarten and back went.
    37. 0
      1 November 2021 21: 27
      Doesn't KAZ save you from jabelins?
      1. +3
        2 November 2021 00: 18
        It is not on these tanks - it is not available on the T 72B3M either.
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          2 November 2021 14: 09
          Yes, I did.
          The complex was produced for more than 6 years and was withdrawn from production after Gorbachev signed an agreement on the reduction of conventional weapons in Europe in connection with the inclusion of the T-55 tank in the list of eliminated weapons.

          I thought that since the T-55, it has been upgraded everywhere and the very first version is generally quite a lot.
          And here comes one traitor screwed up everything.
    38. 0
      2 November 2021 01: 52
      I would like to see KAZ on them, and not just rusty visors Alya mad Max, although maybe he will help ... But still
    39. 0
      2 November 2021 02: 04
      If Ukraine would like to see t72B3 at least arr. 2010, otherwise 72b arr. 1985, with contact-1 and without a thermal imager, it's still an outdated car, plus KAZ instead of rusty visors in the style of Mad Max ... Although it may help if it hits.
    40. +1
      2 November 2021 10: 05
      They go to Syria. To strengthen the troops of Assad.
      And the visors are made against Bayraktar's missiles. Will not save you from the javelin. The javelin has different projectiles.
    41. 0
      2 November 2021 11: 08
      And there is also a whole UFO division in the sky. Invisible. But the Americans are guessing about it. AND IT'S ALL AT Ukraine directed. In order to avoid senseless bloodshed immediately after the declaration of war on the Russian Federation, we recommend signing a pact of unconditional and complete surrender. Fearless Ukrainian soldiers, please take a queue for surrender. Food supply, with the indispensable condition of the complete safety of the surrendered weapons, is guaranteed

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