Modern American 12,7mm sniper rifles

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I usually do not undertake to write articles about the rifle weapons, although I own a legally small arsenal. But my fourteen-year-old son in the past very persistently asked me to talk about 12,7-mm American rifles and recently reminded me of a promise, which was recklessly made before the August vacation, to write a review article on this topic. Promises must be kept, and I hope that this topic will be interesting not only to my idiot, but also to other readers.

In the world


Before starting a story about modern large-caliber rifles, it should be said that similar weapons were used in the First and Second World Wars.



However, the main purpose of large-caliber rifles, which we call anti-tank rifles, was the fight against armored vehicles. For firing at long distances, anti-tank rifles were of little use, due to insufficient manufacturing accuracy, low barrel life and the lack of high-precision cartridges in the ammunition load.

However, it is known that during the Second World War, attempts were made to use the PTR for firing at manpower and embrasures of firing points. For example, the Finns actively used the Lahti L-20 39-mm anti-tank gun for this.

Modern American 12,7mm sniper rifles
20 mm anti-tank rifle Lahti L-39

At the end of the 1930s, optical sights were installed on the experienced domestic anti-tank rifles of Vladimirov and Rukovishnikov, but these samples were not included in the series.

In the middle of 1942, on the 14,5-mm anti-tank rifle PTRD-41, field tests of the 2PR collimator sight, which did not have an increase, were tested. Although the speed and accuracy of aiming increased significantly, the military considered the collimator sight to be superfluous.

There are photographs of a 14,5-mm PTRS-41 with a PU telescopic sight, taken during wartime. Field tests showed that the PU optical sight on the standard Kochetov bracket was not strong enough.


PTRS-41 with optical sight

As a result of the powerful recoil, the scope settings were confused.

The development of a new bracket did not correct the situation. In addition, during aiming, the optical sight was dangerously close to the shooter's eye and, with a strong recoil, could cause serious injury. In this regard, it was decided that it was impractical to equip anti-tank rifles with optical sights.

Domestic sources also mention a 14,5-mm anti-tank rifle of the ZIF type, created in 1942 in Leningrad. The shortened and lightweight versions of the ZIF-11, ZIF-11A and ZIF-11B had optics and were positioned as "sniper armor-piercing guns." However, there is no information about their combat use. It is also unclear what sights the prototypes were equipped with and how the problem of excessive recoil, which knocked down the settings of standard optical sights, was solved.

It seems to me that the persons responsible for the small arms of the Red Army, in wartime, did not bother creating a specialized optical sight with a strong bracket that could withstand crushing recoil. This was done much later.


In Syria and the Donbass, the old Soviet anti-tank guns PTRD-41 and PTRS-41, equipped with optics, were quite actively used. Due to the fact that the accuracy of 14,5-mm anti-tank rifles is not very high, they were mainly used for firing at armored vehicles, hitting manpower hidden behind the walls of buildings, and suppressing firing points.

Currently, 12,7-, 14,5-, 20- and even 23-mm "rifles" have been created in many countries. Such rifles were designed even in states that do not have their own weapons school and a developed scientific and industrial base. For example, weapons of this class were developed in Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Yemen and Indonesia.

Most often, such rifles use 12,7 mm cartridges (NATO - 12,7 × 99 mm and Soviet - 12,7 × 108 mm), used in large-caliber machine guns. The bullet energy reserve of these cartridges is enough to hit a wide range of targets at the entire range of an aimed shot. The large mass and dimensions prevent the widespread use of such rifles in the "line" units, and they mainly entered service with various groups and special forces.

Large-caliber sniper rifles are mainly designed to destroy and disable unarmored and lightly armored vehicles. They can be very effective when firing at airplanes and helicopters located at the airfield, against radars, rocket launchers, fuel tanks, reconnaissance, control and communications equipment. Good results are obtained by shooting at the embrasures of firing points.

Due to their high penetrating power, heavy 12,7-mm bullets are capable of hitting enemy personnel hiding behind the walls of buildings and sandbags. In the defense of checkpoints, bases and strongholds, large-caliber sniper rifles are used for counter-sniper combat. Sappers successfully use them to destroy unexploded ordnance, mines and bombs, as well as to eliminate improvised explosive devices.

Due to the fact that the main purpose of such rifles is the fight against various equipment and the destruction of physical objects, they are often called "antimaterial". At a distance of 1 m, with the use of special armor-piercing cartridges, armor with a thickness of more than 000 mm can be pierced.

Of course, armored and fortified targets can also be destroyed with ATGMs. But the ax is not always appropriate where the scalpel should be used. In addition, the cost of the missile system itself and the guided missile is much higher than the price of a rifle and a cartridge.

USA


As of today, more than four dozen large-caliber military rifles are known in the world, but today we will consider only the most massive and interesting American 12,7-mm rifles.

Apparently, the first rifle chambered for 12,7 × 99 mm, which entered service in the early 1980s, was the M500 rifle, created by Research Armaments Prototypes (RAP), located in Jacksonville, Arkansas.


12,7 mm M500 rifle

The single-shot 12,7 mm M500 rifle has an original loading scheme.

The bolt is locked by turning it by 3 lugs. For reloading, the bolt is removed from the weapon, a cartridge is installed on its mirror in special grooves, after which the bolt with the cartridge is inserted into the barrel and locked by turning. After the shot is fired, the bolt is unlocked and removed from the barrel together with the spent sleeve, which is manually removed from the bolt mirror. A developed muzzle brake is installed on the barrel, designed to compensate for the powerful recoil.

Shooting from a rifle only from a stop. It does not have a forearm and is equipped with a folding two-legged bipod. The rifle buttstock is composite, adjustable in length and height. There are no open sights, all rifles were used only with optical day or night sights. A number of sources say that the famous Leupold M-series riflescopes were originally designed specifically for the M500 rifle.

Rifle weight - 13,4 kg. The total length is 1 mm. Barrel length - 384 mm. Combat rate of fire - up to 813 rds / min. Effective firing range - up to 6 m.

The M500 rifle was produced in small series. By 1983, the US military had purchased only 125 of these weapons. It was used to a limited extent during the hostilities in Panama, Lebanon, the Persian Gulf and in the territory of the former Yugoslavia.

Further development of the M500 were the M600, M650, AMAC-1500 and AMAC-5100 rifles. The family produced rifles chambered for 12,7 × 108 mm and 14,5 × 115 mm.


12,7 mm M600 rifle

The 12,7 mm M600 rifle is a lightweight version of the M500. The weight of this modification has been reduced to 10,4 kg.


12,7 mm M650 rifle

M650 received a detachable box magazine with a capacity of 7 rounds. At the same time, the length of the weapon increased to 1 mm, and the weight was 448 kg.

Even during the tests of 12,7-mm rifles, it turned out that, in addition to the reloading scheme and barrel design, the used ammunition has a very significant effect on the accuracy of shooting. The regular 12,7 × 99 mm cartridges used in the Browning M2NB machine gun were not very suitable for accurate long-range shooting. When using special sniper cartridges with an all-metal bronze bullet, turned on a lathe, the accuracy of firing from M500 rifles was about 1 arc minute (1MOA).

The first fairly common 12,7 mm rifle was the M82A1.

This weapon, released by Barrett Firearms Manufacturing in 1986 (headquartered in Murfreesboro, Tennessee), became the most massive in its class and received the unofficial nickname - "light fifty".


Early modification of the 12,7 mm M82A1 rifle with a cylindrical muzzle brake

Unlike the family, the progenitor of which was the M500 rifle, the design created by Ronnie Barrett was self-loading.

On the one hand, this, in combination with a detachable magazine for 10 rounds, made it possible to significantly increase the combat rate of fire, and on the other hand, the automation, based on the recoil of the barrel with a short stroke, does not have the best effect on accuracy.

Nevertheless, this rifle is quite suitable for solving a certain range of tasks.

A well-trained sniper, when firing with an armor-piercing incendiary cartridge MK 211, is capable of confidently hitting a truck or a helicopter at an airfield at a distance of 1 m from the first shot. The effective firing range against manpower when using special sniper cartridges is about 500 m less.

However, the lack of accuracy (1,5-2 MOA) in most cases is compensated by the caliber and automatic reloading, which allow, in the event of a miss, to quickly fire a second shot from a distance inaccessible to a 7,62-mm weapon. An experienced shooter can fire up to 20 aimed shots per minute.


The weight of a rifle with a 740 mm barrel is 14 kg. Overall length - 1 450 mm. The stock is equipped with a rubber butt pad. The rifle has a mount for installation on a tripod machine gun M2NV, as well as a special shock-absorbing cradle for use on jeeps or armored personnel carriers. The two-legged bipod is borrowed from the M60 machine gun.

On production rifles currently in use by the American armed forces, the cold forged barrel is equipped with a two-chamber muzzle brake that absorbs up to 30% recoil. Early models were equipped with a cylindrical muzzle brake.


M82A1 rifle with night sight

The Leupold Mark 4 optical sight has a 10x magnification, and there is also a duplicate frame sight. For later versions, it is possible to install various night optics.


The most numerous modification is currently the M82A1 SASR (Special Applications Scoped Rifle - a special purpose rifle with a telescopic sight). In the US armed forces, this rifle is designated M107. Also known modifications M82A1A and M82A1M.


The main difference between the improved models from the early M82A1 is a long Picatinny rail (allows you to mount any day, night and combined sights), the presence of a monopod on the stock, as well as an improved trigger and muzzle brake.


A shorter version with a 508mm barrel is known as the M107CQ. This weapon weighs 10,8 kg empty. At the same time, the effective firing range was reduced by about 20%. According to promotional materials, the shortened large-bore rifle is more suitable for shooting from helicopters, armored vehicles, boats and combat operations in the city.


The M107A1 rifle appeared in 2011. Due to the use of titanium alloys in the construction, the weapon has become lighter.

On the forums dedicated to sniper shooting, it is said that in competitions this model, when using Match-class cartridges, consistently fell into a circle with a diameter of 21 cm, located at a distance of 914 meters. Shooting with special subsonic cartridges in combination with a silencer allows you to hit point targets at a distance of up to 500 m.


Although rifles of the Barrett M82 family were and remain quite expensive (the M107A1 costs more than $ 12), this weapon is very popular and widely distributed around the world.


Officially, the M82A1 and M107 large-caliber rifles are used by law enforcement agencies in more than 30 countries. Sweden became the first customer of М82А1 in 1989. In the run-up to Operation Desert Storm, several hundred rifles were acquired by US Special Operations Forces.


It is reliably known that, in addition to companies against Iraq, Barrett's large-caliber rifles were used in hostilities in Somalia and the former Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, against drug cartels in Mexico and Colombia. According to unconfirmed reports, М82А1 / М107 were used in the conflict in eastern Ukraine.


The M107CQ trimmed rifles are used by the United States Coast Guard. The crews of the Tactical Barrage Helicopter Squadron use them to disable the engines of speedboats, which are used to smuggle cocaine into the United States. Also, the M107 rifles were adopted by the New York and Pittsburgh Police Departments.


The latest version of the 12,7mm short-barrel rifle has a new four-chamber muzzle brake that better compensates for the recoil force of the lightweight design.

A number of other models have been created on the basis of the M82A1.

The 12,7 mm M82A2 rifle, made according to the bullpup scheme, looks very unusual.


12,7mm M82A2 rifle

This rifle, which began production in 1987, became significantly shorter, and even allowed shooting from a standing position. An additional front handle has been added for holding. But due to unsatisfactory ergonomics and inconvenience of shooting from a prone position, it did not receive wide distribution.

The experience gained with the creation of the M82A2 was rethought, and in 2006 the XM500 bullpup rifle saw the light. But, unlike the M82A2, in this model, the automation works by removing part of the powder gases with the barrel locking with a rotary bolt.


12,7 mm rifle XM500

Compared to the M82A2, the new rifle looks less futuristic. The total length is 1 mm. Barrel length - 168 mm. Without cartridges, the rifle weighs 737 kg. The Picatinny rail allows the installation of various day and night sights, as well as a laser designator.


There is no information on the use of large-caliber bullpup rifles in the US military. Most likely, there was a trial operation and military tests of single copies.

The commercial success of the Light Fifty led Barrett to continue developing other 0,5-inch rifles. Taking into account the fact that it is very difficult to achieve high accuracy in self-loading weapons, the M-1990 rifle with a fixed barrel and a rotary sliding bolt was created in 90.


12,7 mm rifle M-90

The use of manual reloading made it possible to make the rifle simpler and more reliable. The fixed barrel improved firing accuracy, and the bullpup layout made it possible to reduce the size of the weapon while maintaining the same barrel length and effective firing range. Rifle weight without cartridges and sight - 10,2 kg. Length - 1 mm. Barrel length - 345 mm. Food is supplied from a detachable 736-round magazine.

Serial production of the M-90 rifle began in 1990, and in 1995 it was replaced by the modified M-95 model. The M-95 rifle differs from the M-90 in that the pistol grip and the trigger are moved 25 mm forward from the magazine to improve the convenience of shooting, the bolt handle is bent back, the design of the firing mechanism has been slightly changed. The telescopic sight mount has been replaced with a standard Picatinny rail. The mass of the weapon decreased to 9,82 kg.


12,7 mm rifle M-95

The 12,7mm M-95 rifle entered a competition announced by the USMC, and about a dozen rifles were purchased to equip the Marines' sniper pairs. However, due to changes in the conditions of the competition, the self-loading M107 won.

For high-precision shooting at long distances, the M-1999 single-shot rifle was created in 99. The main difference between this model and other large-caliber rifles from this manufacturer was the lack of a store. Loading is carried out with one cartridge through the window for the extraction of spent cartridges. After firing, the sleeve is ejected automatically.


12,7 mm rifle M-99

Due to the widespread use of light alloys in the design and the absence of a magazine, significant savings in rifle weight have been achieved. With a barrel length of 812 mm and a total length of 1 270 mm, the weight of an unloaded weapon without an optical sight is 11,34 kg.

In 2001, with such a rifle, a world record was set in shooting at a distance of 914 meters (1 yards) from a 000 mm weapon (five hits were laid in a circle with a diameter of 12,7 centimeters). Thus, this weapon fully implements the "one shot - one dead" concept.

In addition to the basic version with a long barrel, the M-99-1 modification is produced with a barrel length of 635 mm. This rifle weighs 9,07 kg and is 1 mm long. The main purpose of the shortened model is to use it in urban conditions, when, for example, it is necessary to disable a car engine with an accurate shot or to hit a protected target.

In the 1990s, the M-90 and M-95 rifles were sold in the civilian arms market, and were often used by extremist groups. So, in the period from 1991 to 1997, members of the Irish Republican Army shot several British soldiers with 12,7-mm rifles. There is also information that up to fifty manually reloadable large-caliber Barrett rifles in 1997 were at the disposal of Albanian militants.

A significant number of M-90, M-95 and M-99 rifles were purchased by private military companies operating in various hot spots around the world. They are in service with the law enforcement agencies of two dozen states.


The main advantages of manually reloadable large-caliber bolt-action rifles over self-loading rifles are lower weight and dimensions, as well as higher firing accuracy. At the same time, the М82А1 / М107 rifles are unsurpassed in terms of rate of fire.

Given the impressive success of Barrett Firearms Manufacturing in the creation and production of large-caliber rifles, a number of other less famous firms in the United States also decided to develop such weapons. But they have not yet managed to achieve special results. The main customer for 12,7-mm rifles, optical and optoelectronic sights for them is the state power structures, and this field is firmly occupied.

To expand the sales market, a number of 12,7 mm rifles are positioned as hunting and sporting weapons. However, it is difficult to imagine that someone, being in their right mind, would even hunt big game with a rifle weighing more than 10 kg, capable of piercing a 15-mm armor plate at a kilometer range.

Heavy, very large and spectacular looking 12,7mm rifles are popular with game makers and action movie makers. Most often, Barrett M82 appears in games and films.


However, there are exceptions, for example, in the action movie Under the Gun, which was released in 1996, the protagonist, played by actor Dolph Lungren, used a large-caliber M600 rifle from RAP.

There is no doubt that in the future long-range large-caliber rifles will be in great demand as an inexpensive means of combating modern high-tech weapons systems, as well as for countering snipers armed with less powerful weapons.

Taking into account the achievements in the field of creating new high-strength and lightweight materials and alloys, we should expect the emergence of new, more advanced designs.
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  2. +8
    1 November 2021 18: 32
    great article, learned a lot, thanks
  3. +1
    1 November 2021 18: 58
    Nice article, Author!
    It's a pity that there is no mention of our KSVK / KSVK.
    1. 0
      1 November 2021 19: 08
      And OSV-96 including wink
      1. +6
        2 November 2021 14: 01
        Quote: KSVK
        It's a pity that there is no mention of our KSVK / KSVK.

        Quote: Saigaved
        And OSV-96 including

        Sorry, but the article is titled:
        Modern American 12,7mm sniper rifles
        A separate publication should be made about domestic 12,7-mm rifles.
        1. +4
          2 November 2021 14: 02
          Quote: Bongo
          I beg your pardon, but the article is called:
          Modern American 12,7mm sniper rifles
          A separate publication should be made about domestic 12,7-mm rifles.

          Thank you for the article, I would like the same detailed article about domestic 12,7mm rifles. smile
          1. +5
            2 November 2021 14: 20
            Quote: Saigaved
            Thank you for the article, I would like the same detailed article about domestic 12,7mm rifles.

            If I have free time, I will definitely do it.
  4. +6
    1 November 2021 19: 17
    Due to the fact that the main purpose of such rifles is the fight against various equipment and the destruction of physical objects, they are often called "antimaterial".

    Equipment (the penultimate letter "e") = weapons, military equipment and expenditures for them (ammunition, etc., ie everything they are supplied with). Not to be confused with material through "a" = material (s).
    The best translation into Russian, kmk, is "means" (not forces, that is, not people), but there is no exact Russian tracing of the word materiel.
    "Anti-materiel" = to combat the above.

    Thank you for an excellent article.
  5. +10
    1 November 2021 19: 23
    hi
    Like the article, of course.
    What do some American snipers think of the .50 rifle?
    Chris Kyle (THE ONE BEST): “It's a huge, heavy gun and I don't like it. I never used it in Iraq.

    There is a certain romance and even hype around these 12,7x99mm rounds. Several models of similar rifles are in service in the United States and some other countries of the world. You may have heard of the Barrett M-82 or M-107 rifles developed by Barrett Firearms Manufacturing. They have a huge range when used correctly and are definitely quality weapons. I just don't like this class of rifles at all. (The only weapon of this caliber that I like is produced by Accuracy International; it is more compact, has a folding stock and is more accurate. Unfortunately, we did not have such rifles at the time.)

    Everyone says that heavy sniper rifles are great for fighting vehicles. The truth is, when a 12,7mm bullet pierces a car's engine, it doesn't stop working, and the car doesn't stop that second. The fluids, of course, will flow out of the engine, and sooner or later it will stall. But this will not happen immediately. A bullet. 338 and even. 300 will give the same effect. No. The best way to stop the car is to shoot the driver. And this can be done with a wide variety of weapons. "
    1. -4
      2 November 2021 00: 26
      It's just that now these large-caliber rifles are in vogue, but in fact they are almost useless in war:
      ... They can be very effective when firing at airplanes and helicopters located at the airfield, against radars, rocket launchers, fuel tanks, reconnaissance, control and communications equipment. Good results are obtained by shooting at the embrasures of firing points.

      I wonder who will allow the DRG to come within 1-1,5 km from the airfield, gas depots and rocket launchers. After all, they are located deep in the rear, and not one and a half kilometers from the front line. It is a dubious pleasure to carry a 15-kg fool to saboteurs. And artillery and aviation, including UAVs, are much more effective against airfields, gas storages and rocket launchers. Instead of these large-caliber rifles, I would use mortars and grenade launchers, there will be much more sense from them.
      1. +8
        2 November 2021 00: 59
        This is exactly what they reasoned until the 80s of the last century, when some battalion commander had mortars and grenade launchers and other interesting things at hand to demolish any conventional gas storage with an enemy sitting on it.
        But then came the "time of political correctness", rejection of the concept of "unlimited collateral damage", and burning gas stations looked bad on the news.
        Moreover, after the 80s, new optics, special cartridges, barrels that are almost put in the freezer to relieve stress, rangefinders, all kinds of Kestrals, ballistic calculators and other things suddenly made it possible to knock out brains up to a kilometer, the contents of the chest-abdominal cavity up to 2 km, but some amateurs stretch for 3 kilometers. And the collateral damage is minimal. It was like this until the mid-10s
        But progress does not stand still.
        And instead of the harsh men who are proud of the ability to lie in ambush for hours with a rifle without moving (controlling breathing, heartbeat, urination and defecation), new heroes slowly appear.
        New heroes sit in comfortable shoes in front of consoles / tablets (sometimes even in a well-air-conditioned room), with things resembling flight simulators. They control drones and a device that looks like a mouse from a computer, they decide who will live and who will not. And these new heroes in some countries have made such progress in precision that sometimes the ammunition does not even have explosives - it kills like a hammer.
      2. +2
        2 November 2021 14: 03
        Quote: Chekmarev
        I wonder who will let the DRG at 1-1,5 km from the airfield, gas depots and rocket launchers.

        Have you ever been to a military airfield, an air defense missile system position or an early warning system? Before writing such comments, I recommend visiting. hi
      3. 0
        2 January 2022 15: 12
        By the way, yes, a mortar and an attack from a closed position will be much more useful than from this pukalki. moreover, after the shooting of the bk, everything rushes in place and the group leaves at ease
    2. 0
      5 November 2021 20: 55
      Quote: Wildcat
      Everyone says that heavy sniper rifles are great for fighting vehicles. The truth is, when a 12,7mm bullet hits a car's engine, it doesn't stop working, and the car doesn't stop instantly. The fluids, of course, will flow out of the engine, and sooner or later it will stall. But this will not happen immediately. A bullet. 338 and even. 300 will give the same effect. No. The best way to stop the car is to shoot the driver. And this can be done with a variety of weapons.

      If I am not mistaken, then their snipers use not simple cartridges, but armor-piercing explosive, which will spoil the motors quite well when hit.
  6. +4
    1 November 2021 20: 04
    IMHO, "machine gun" rifles are gradually being replaced by "sniper" rifles: "On March 30, 2021, the US Army signed a five-year contract worth $ 49 million with Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc.
    In total, the US military will receive 2800 units of Mk 22 Multi-Role Adaptive Design (MRAD) rifles, which will replace the M2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle from Remington Arms and the M107 Long Range Sniper Rifle from Barrett.
    The Barrett Mk 22 is a modular system for three calibers: .338 Norma Magnum, .300 Norma Magnum and 7,62 × 51 NATO. "
    https://www.kalashnikov.ru/barrett-na-pyat-let-vintovki-mk-22-dlya-armii-ssha/

    Plus somewhere near the new 6,8 caliber and for "special occasions" - .410.

    IMHO, the history of .50 rifles is counted from the SAME K. Hitchcock (Hathcock), who nevertheless fitted a sniper scope to a .50 machine gun (there was a version of a homemade weapon based on a 50 machine gun barrel) and successfully used this device in Vietnam.
    Well, then THE BIGGEST Barrett began to make almost artisanal rifles, which looked VERY good against the background of various .30s. Long and interesting story.
    1. +3
      2 November 2021 10: 47
      Quote: Wildcat
      Well, then THE BIGGEST Barrett began to make almost artisanal rifles, which looked VERY good against the background of various .30s. Long and interesting story.

      Straight classic American success story. The enthusiasts gathered in the garage, came up with an idea, took out a loan and created a corporation or firm. Classics from the 19th century.
      1. +4
        2 November 2021 11: 00
        Something strange is happening in their garages, I agree ...
        "Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak told Bloomberg Businessweek that starting a giant corporation in a garage is 'kind of a myth'"
        https://tjournal.ru/tech/53297-wozniak-apple-garage

        Well, we have a "weapons garage":
  7. -4
    1 November 2021 20: 22
    Barrett is the standard for 12,7mm rifles.
    The author was mistaken (one feels that he tried but not in the subject) that the barrett at 500 meters does not work well for manpower. With 650, with a strong side wind and in the rain, with one shot, you can hit an enemy who has escaped from the trench and hit a felling (unless, of course, the sniper shoots at the top five). Great rifle !!
    1. +1
      2 November 2021 10: 31
      on the spot it is putting it mildly. tear off the top half
    2. +2
      2 November 2021 10: 42
      Quote: Old ensign
      The author was mistaken (one feels that he tried but not in the subject) that the barrett at 500 meters does not work well for manpower.

      So you worked on manpower from this sniper rifle?
      Quote: Old ensign
      [/ Quote]
      [quote = Old ensign] With 650, with a strong side wind and in the rain, with one shot, you can hit the enemy who has escaped from the trench and hit the felling (unless of course the sniper shoots at the top five). Great rifle !!

      I have not heard that weather stations were included in the equipment of snipers with the M107
    3. +2
      2 November 2021 14: 10
      Quote: Old ensign
      The author was mistaken (one feels that he tried but not in the subject) that the barrett at 500 meters does not work well for manpower. With 650, with a strong side wind and in the rain, with one shot, you can hit an enemy who has escaped from the trench and hit a felling (unless, of course, the sniper shoots at the top five). Great rifle !!

      It is not clear which rifle you are talking about M82 or M99. request
      And these are two большие the differences... Of course, I did not shoot from 12,7-mm rifles, but I have a certain idea of ​​bullet shooting, including from long-barreled rifled weapons.
  8. +2
    1 November 2021 20: 31
    "According to unconfirmed reports, М82А1 / М107 were used in the conflict in eastern Ukraine." - it seems that initially .50 Barrets and Macmillans appeared privately in Ukraine, but now - officially.
    But WHO SHOULD also do not sit idly by, and .338 and optics - everything is there (we, IMHO, have a very big question about sniper cartridges of our caliber, so our "Russian .50" rifles are not very popular).





  9. +3
    1 November 2021 21: 10
    "This weapon, released by Barrett Firearms Manufacturing in 1986 (headquartered in Murfreesboro, Tennessee), has become the most popular in its class and has received the unofficial nickname - 'light fifty'."
    To better understand what it means to make .50 rifles, USA (and all sorts of Freedom and Rights there), let's listen to Ronnie Barrett himself (who has bad English, you can select "subtitles-translate-Russian" in the YouTube settings).
    Photographer fellow , 26 years fellow , garage (rather a barn) fellow and "let's make a .50 rifle and make some money."
  10. -1
    1 November 2021 22: 45
    I would like to know the characteristics of the shot, such as the initial velocity of the bullet, its mass, the power of the shot, etc. What are the characteristics of domestic weapons in this area? And, of course, the small spread of bullets of such weapons is striking - no worse than 0,5 MOA at an almost kilometer distance.
  11. +2
    1 November 2021 22: 53
    speech yyrbod, JegreS

    Sergey, good evening and thanks for the unexpected surprise!))

    I am a complete layman in a sniper rifle, but I still read it with great interest, you know how to present any material with taste!

    Bow and best wishes to your wife.))

    I wanted to send flowers to Olga, but the site is completely buggy.
    1. +5
      2 November 2021 14: 14
      Kostya, hi!
      Olya sends her greetings to you too!
      She just returned from work, and I from hunting and fishing. It has become sharply warmer here, and until the frosts hit, I try to spend more time in nature.


      1. +4
        2 November 2021 22: 28
        She just returned from work, and I came from hunting and fishing


        This is how Real Men live !!! fellow good drinks
        1. +4
          3 November 2021 01: 19
          Goodnight! Why do not you sleep?
          Quote: Sea Cat
          This is how Real Men live !!!

          We need to take a break from the bustle of the city. Moreover, with age comes the understanding that life is short, and it is not a fact that in 10 years I will have strength and health to dissect through the pampas.
          1. +2
            3 November 2021 02: 25
            Cursed insomnia, the schedule has shifted as in that song by Galich. smile

            … We feel with a partner: well, well!
            Legs are directly cottony, all in smoke.
            We feel - we need a rest,
            Something bad in the air.

            We took Zhigulevskoe and Dubnyak,
            The third invited the stoker
            Accepted, added one more time, -
            Then the stoker opened our eyes

            On a terrible story
            About Moscow and about Paris,
            How our physicists argued
            We'll bet the physicists
            Let's bet their physicists!

            Everything is now on the ball sideways and jump,
            Pincushion, inverted,
            And what do we think day - night!
            And what do we think night - day!

            And chop the lapari dates
            And in the Sahara there is a lot of snow!
            These are physics bastards on a bet
            Spin the ball on the contrary.

            And where the pole was - there are tropics,
            And where is New York - Nakhichevan,
            And that we are people, not bobiks,
            They sneeze at it,
            Give them a shit about it!

            The stoker finished that story,
            I see - well, my partner just wilted!
            If such is the case - burn with fire! -
            We won't go to paint anymore!

            They took a bulletin to the clinics,
            Do not fool us with your head!
            And what kind of work is there if night is day,
            And then back not day, but night ?!

            And with all qualifications
            skew here is possible:
            It's still radiation,
            And not just vitriol
            And not just vitriol!

            Fifth week I go sick
            I’m not sleeping with my wife for the fifth week.
            My partner also cries:
            Say he is completely poisoned.

            And I’m being treated by the Stolichnaya personally,
            So I don’t get mad:
            The source said that "Metropolitan"
            Very good for strontium!

            And I can't believe it, I can't believe it
            That that trouble will pass ...
            And the ball is spinning and spinning,
            And all the time - not there,
            And all the time - not there!

            November 1962, XNUMX
            1. +2
              3 November 2021 09: 41
              Then: "Zhigulevskoe" was good, but now ...
              I practically never drink modern beers. Your own beloved shore
              1. 0
                3 November 2021 15: 15
                I gave up beer ten years ago, if not even more.
                1. +1
                  3 November 2021 16: 15
                  I am Czech jar, already a long time ago and in August. Kent gave him a treat, and so I didn’t tago
  12. +3
    2 November 2021 08: 35
    Well, the marsksman rifle of the SVD type, the microwave oven and the silent VAL / Vintorez should now be in every compartment and in every BMP / armored personnel carrier. and everyone should be able to use it.
    sniper rifles 338 or 410 and 12,7, etc. a very specific thing. they really need special forces only or as reinforcement groups in some specific cases of strange wars such as Donbass, Syria, etc.
    in the event of a war like 080808 or Armenia-Azerbaijan, good aviation is needed more, then drones, then infantry with artillery tanks and reconnaissance drones and flamethrowers, and again SVD / SHF
    1. +1
      2 January 2022 15: 21
      This is the case if there is an intense conflict - that is, the constant movement of troops is enough for an infantry sniper with SVD, and the sniper saboteurs in such conditions will be quickly calculated and destroyed by search groups, especially if they fire from such guns. But in sluggish border conflicts where there is a line of contact and no one really goes on the attack on a large scale, such rifles are quite suitable - although of course if such a sniper is spotted, they throw mines at him from a closed position and the result is the same. It seems to me in many respects depends on the conditions of use. Because in order to realize the possibility of firing such a rifle at a distance of more than 1000m, one must lie down at a height.
  13. +3
    2 November 2021 10: 37
    Promises must be kept, and I hope that this topic will be interesting not only to my idiot, but also to other readers.

    Yes, your son can understand that some models look very "hype".
    On the one hand, this, in combination with a detachable magazine for 10 rounds, made it possible to significantly increase the combat rate of fire, and on the other hand, the automation, based on the recoil of the barrel with a short stroke, does not have the best effect on accuracy.

    It's odd that Barrett opted for a short stroke automatic. Most likely in order not to reduce the weight of the rifle. Here's how the M107 works:
    Here is a video in English (subtitles can be turned on) with a general overview:
    According to unconfirmed reports, М82А1 / М107 were used in the conflict in eastern Ukraine.

    I also read somewhere that in addition to "Javelins" Ukraine received 12,7 mm sniper rifles as a weapon of defense. It is unknown how they were used in real combat.
    1. +4
      2 November 2021 11: 04
      I also read somewhere that in addition to "Javelins" Ukraine received 12,7 mm sniper rifles as a weapon of defense.
      - above the videos of Ukrainian .50 posted (something I was not weak for them). Even Zelensky has Barrett in positions in the new movie "as I have been Goloborodko for a year now".
    2. +5
      2 November 2021 14: 18
      Hi!
      Quote: KKND
      Yes, your son can understand that some models look very "hype".

      So this interest is mainly caused by computer games. But I gradually accustom him to arms, it will come in handy in life.
  14. +3
    2 November 2021 11: 14
    It seems to me that the persons responsible for the small arms of the Red Army, in wartime, did not bother creating a specialized optical sight with a strong bracket that could withstand crushing recoil.

    With the PTR of war times, everything is easier. We open "Manual on a small business (NSD-42). Anti-tank self-loading rifle mod. 1941 of the Simonov-PTRS system. Single-shot anti-tank rifle mod. 1941 of the Degtyarev-PTRD system. - Edition corrected and supplemented. - M .: Military Publishing, 1944 .-- 96 p."(Namely NSD-44).
    And on page 84 we read that core stripes in height and width at a distance of 300 m are 63 and 55 cm, and at a distance of 500 m - 105 and 92 cm.
    A core strip is called a strip that contains 70% of all holes and its middle is aligned with the line passing through the middle point of impact.

    In the same NSD there is a battle check: 4 shots at a shield with a black rectangle 20x30 cm from a distance of 100 m. The aiming point is the middle of the bottom edge of the rectangle.
    A fight is considered normal if three or four holes fit into a circle with a diameter of 22 cm, and if the midpoint deviates vertically no more than 7 cm, horizontally no more than 5 cm.
    For 100 m 3 out of 4 hits - in a circle of 22 cm.

    Well, what for with a gun with such accuracy of optics?
    1. +4
      2 November 2021 11: 33
      Quote: Alexey RA
      It seems to me that the persons responsible for the small arms of the Red Army, in wartime, did not bother creating a specialized optical sight with a strong bracket that could withstand crushing recoil.

      With the PTR of war times, everything is easier. We open "Manual on a small business (NSD-42). Anti-tank self-loading rifle mod. 1941 of the Simonov-PTRS system. Single-shot anti-tank rifle mod. 1941 of the Degtyarev-PTRD system. - Edition corrected and supplemented. - M .: Military Publishing, 1944 .-- 96 p."(Namely NSD-44).
      And on page 84 we read that core stripes in height and width at a distance of 300 m are 63 and 55 cm, and at a distance of 500 m - 105 and 92 cm.
      A core strip is called a strip that contains 70% of all holes and its middle is aligned with the line passing through the middle point of impact.

      In the same NSD there is a battle check: 4 shots at a shield with a black rectangle 20x30 cm from a distance of 100 m. The aiming point is the middle of the bottom edge of the rectangle.
      A fight is considered normal if three or four holes fit into a circle with a diameter of 22 cm, and if the midpoint deviates vertically no more than 7 cm, horizontally no more than 5 cm.
      For 100 m 3 out of 4 hits - in a circle of 22 cm.

      Well, what for with a gun with such accuracy of optics?

      absolutely right Ptrd / Ptrs ersatz that were created quickly and for a narrow task. They write that: when by 1944 they became almost useless, they wanted to use them as a means of support against pillboxes, firing points at a great distance, it turned out that 1. the cartridge was not a sniper 2. the barrel was made not like a sniper. 3 the barrel quickly wears out until it loses accuracy (dozens -: a couple of hundred shots) 4. the sight either has nothing to attach to, or it still strives to knock out the eye during recoil. 5 the sight needs a stronger one because of the recoil. but it seems to be all the same until 1945 they were used as anti-material rifles
      1. +4
        2 November 2021 12: 43
        Armored personnel carriers and other lightly armored vehicles were also used by the Germans until the very end. And it was quite possible to get into the trucks from the PTR.
        Some large sabotage groups from the PTR "fired off" steam locomotives. Violating transportation schedules.
    2. +3
      2 November 2021 15: 36
      Well, what for with a gun with such accuracy of optics?

      For the same reason why optics are put on shotguns or revolvers for hunting - three points in space are more difficult to combine than two. In your message, it was necessary to highlight something else - "and if midpoint deviated vertically no more than 7 cm, horizontally no more than 5 cm. "The optics just allow us to ensure the invariability of the aiming point. You remember the sighting devices on our anti-tank rifles. ...
      1. 0
        3 November 2021 10: 51
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        For the same reason why optics are put on shotguns or revolvers for hunting - three points in space are more difficult to combine than two. In your message, it was necessary to highlight something else - "and if the midpoint deviated vertically no more than 7 cm, horizontally no more than 5 cm." Optics just allows you to ensure the invariance of the aiming point.

        It's not about the aiming point - it was unchanged:
        Quote: Alexey RA
        The aiming point is the middle of the bottom edge of the rectangle.

        At 100 m, you can aim at a black rectangle 20x30 cm from an open sight.
        The midpoint left because of the wild spread of hits: at 100 m, the PTR could well throw one of four bullets per circle with a diameter of 22 cm - and this was considered normal.
        1. +1
          3 November 2021 12: 06
          It's not about the aiming point - it was unchanged:
          Quote: Alexey RA
          The aiming point is the middle of the bottom edge of the rectangle.

          Alexey, it's not about where they choose to aim, but about whether it is possible to do this with existing sights.
          At 100 m, you can aim at a black rectangle 20x30 cm from an open sight.

          You can aim. In a 20x30 rectangle. Only this is not the aiming point. We return all to the same - at 100 meters, the front sight of the PTRD will cover 71% of the specified rectangle in width. How do you ensure aiming at the middle of the bottom edge? What is the impact of the sighting system can be judged by the CPV with its standard of 3 out of 4 in a circle with a diameter of 20 cm by 100 meters and the Ukrainian t-rex, for which the same barrels from the CPV and the same cartridge are used. And which shows 20 cm by 1500 m.
  15. +2
    2 November 2021 21: 01
    "Heavy, very large and spectacular looking 12,7mm rifles are popular with the creators of computer games and action movies" - he remembered the first time he saw Barrett in a movie. Even then, it seemed to me that some cinematic characters with white nostrils were not completely healthy for such a caliber!
    1. 0
      3 November 2021 16: 39
      In the United States, such rifles are on free sale and even armor-piercing cartridges are sold to them. And the success of this rifle in the world is due to its high-tech appearance for its time and now looks decent.
      1. 0
        3 November 2021 17: 15
        No.
        The success of Barrett's rifles is due to the fact that in those years (80s of the 20th century), it allowed you to shoot farther and more accurately than .30 and similar calibers. And when the military nevertheless paid attention to this .50 miracle Yudo, a lot of other "sniper" calibers and rifle manufacturers appeared. Barrett himself is now making .416.
        Large calibers before Barrett were not intended for long-range shooting, but were used for hunting big / dangerous game at very medium distances.
        Are you sure about the free sale of armor-piercing cartridges?
      2. -1
        3 November 2021 17: 20
        https://338lm.ru/catalog/nareznoe/snayperskaya_vintovka_barrett_m107a1_50_bmg_fde_29
        Documents for a rifle, 3 rubles - and you are the happy owner of a Barrett .450 in the Russian Federation. IMHO.
  16. 0
    7 November 2021 22: 42
    hi
    Thank you!
    Pro M500 from Research Armaments Prototypes
    and M82A2 and XM500 according to the "bullpup" scheme, I have not even heard ...

    Usually the following is added everywhere:
    shortened versions of ZIF-11, ZIF-11A and ZIF-11B were positioned as "armor-piercing sniper rifles" as opposed to the Finnish Lahti L-39, which, presumably, were used as a sniper weapon on the Leningrad front
  17. 0
    7 December 2021 10: 40
    Due to the fact that the main purpose of such rifles is the fight against various equipment and the destruction of physical objects, they are often called "antimaterial".

    from illiteracy. In Russian, "antimatter" is closely associated with nuclear physics. In English "materiel" - "material part". In this respect, in the English interpretation "antimateriel" makes logical sense. In Russian, when they try to replace the domestic "large-caliber rifle" with "antimaterial" there is nothing but an illiterate "monkey" (c) Dostoevsky.

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