Arms imports and degradation of the Ukrainian military industry

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MBT "Oplot" - a small pride of the Ukrainian industry

The Ukrainian military industry is rapidly degrading and losing its competence. In its current state, it is capable of only partially meeting the needs of its armed forces, and by no means in all areas. One of the main factors leading to such a degradation is the army's over-orientation towards imported weapons and equipment. By purchasing foreign samples, the military department deprives its industry of earnings and development prospects.

On October 28, Russia in Global Affairs magazine published an extensive article “War on International Contracts. Import of weapons and military equipment to Ukraine in 2014–2021 ”. It is devoted to the main features of purchases, their impact on the state of the army and industry. The facts cited in the article perfectly show how the purchase of foreign samples harms and gradually kills its own industry.



Organizational matters


As a result of the collapse of the USSR, the newly independent Ukraine got dozens of enterprises of the military-industrial complex. They could continue the already mastered production, and also had the opportunity to develop their own samples. Until recently, this potential was actively used and allowed the industry to stay afloat.


BTR-3 - this technique was previously exported

Military production in Ukraine was heavily dependent on the cooperation established during the Soviet era. In some products, the share of components sourced from Russia exceeded 50%. Until a certain time, this was not a problem and allowed the two countries to earn money on Ukrainian and import contracts.

However, in August 2014, the new Ukrainian authorities banned the import of military and dual-use products from Russia, which dealt a serious blow to its own production. Ukraine had to urgently deploy projects and programs to replace imported products. They tried to produce the necessary products on their own, purchase them in third countries, or replace them with available analogues.

According to official data, such processes gave the desired result. However, Russia in Global Affairs notes that production still used Russian products. Despite the prohibitions, they were purchased through intermediaries or even directly. However, all this led to an increase in the cost and production time. These factors, combined with the limited financial capabilities of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, were the first notable blow to the military industry.

Looking for a replacement


Long before 2014, they tried to solve the problem of Russian imports at the expense of Western components. Projects for the modernization of existing models on their basis were proposed to the Ukrainian army and promoted on the international market. Such products sometimes attracted the attention of customers, but did not show much success. In addition, projects often faced the problem of the cost of the required nodes.


Armored car Oncilla of Ukrainian design and Polish production

After 2014, the change of government and the outbreak of the civil war, new difficulties arose. Now, not all foreign partners were ready to sell the required products to Ukraine. For example, in 2016 Germany imposed a ban on the sale of Deutz engines to Ukrainian enterprises. Because of this, Ukraine was unable to fulfill one of the export contracts for armored personnel carriers BTR-3.

Russia in Global Affairs gives another, more interesting example of such problems. For many years, Ukraine has been trying to build corvettes of the new project 58250. According to preliminary agreements, such ships were to receive artillery and missiles made in Germany, Italy, the United States and other countries. However, in 2017 it became clear that the exporting states were not going to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine. Accordingly, the construction of corvettes turns out to be impossible - which is a serious blow to shipbuilding and the modernization of the Navy.

Other projects also suffer from the refusal of foreign suppliers. So, in the past, an agreement was reached on the supply of Rolls Royce engines for assault landing boats, project 58181. Several of these boats have already been completed, but in July this year the British side withdrew from its participation in the project. A replacement for the Rolls-Royce engines has not yet been found.

Import kills


Over time, the Ministry of Defense received financial and other opportunities for the purchase of finished imported military products. As it became clear later, each such contract dealt a new blow to its own industry. However, such problems did not bother those in charge, who received their benefits of a corrupt nature.


The first boats of project 58181 - they managed to get British engines

According to Russia in Global Affairs, by now the volume of imports in Ukraine's military purchases in all directions has reached the level of 40-50 percent. It includes deliveries of new imported products, used equipment, various components, etc. Naturally, the supply of foreign products leads to the abandonment of Ukrainian products, which only harms their own production.

Import is critical in the supply of small arms ammunition weapons for the army and law enforcement agencies. A wide range of products is supplied from abroad, incl. all ammunition of NATO standards. At the same time, there is practically no own production, and the remaining supply is carried out mainly at the expense of previously accumulated warehouse stocks.

A similar situation is observed in the field of other weapons. For example, the supply of American Javelin ATGMs led to a sharp reduction in purchases of their own systems, despite their advantages in tactical and technical characteristics and lower cost. The anti-tank missile situation is exacerbated by the fact that the supplier has imposed severe restrictions on the use of Javelins.


ATGM Javelin - once the main dream of the Ukrainian army

In the past, the Bogdan-Motors company, due to the support from above, was able to push the AvtoKrAZ company out of government contracts. It supplied the army and other structures with the equipment of the Minsk Automobile Plant, and the Kremenchug plant went bankrupt without orders. However, soon Bogdan was left without a lobby, did not receive new contracts and also went bankrupt. The negative consequences of these processes for the Ukrainian automotive industry are obvious.

In the field of armored vehicles, the situation is no better. So, many developments did not reach the series or were produced in small quantities. The Dozor-B product can be considered the most successful, but it also encountered difficulties. "Dozors" were planned to be built at Ukrainian enterprises, but the army eventually decided to purchase their licensed version of the Polish assembly called Oncilla. At the same time, their own enterprises were actually left out of work and without money.

Negative processes of this kind are observed in all major areas. Due to the purchase of foreign products, their own aircraft building enterprises, manufacturers of automobile and armored vehicles, etc. remain without orders. Together with orders, they lose the opportunity to maintain competencies, develop and modernize production. Long-term maintenance of this state of affairs leads to expected and predictable degradation.

Prerequisites and Causes


From 2014 to the present, Ukraine has been trying to actively develop its armed forces and other structures, and even shows some success in this direction. At the same time, imported products play a significant role in re-equipment in the form of finished samples or individual units for use in their production.


MTR fighters of Ukraine on an imported boat

As practice shows, imports allow us to fill empty niches in a limited time and provide the army with the necessary materiel. At the same time, such purchases directly harm the Ukrainian industry. Despite various statements and assurances, this situation is not changing, and the industry has no reason for optimistic forecasts.

"Russia in Global Affairs" rightly notes that direct purchases and foreign military aid do not give Ukraine any real advantages and do not contribute to the development of the army. Their result is only the emergence of new loans, which will have to be repaid, as well as increased dependence on foreign supplier countries and lenders. It should also be noted that all these processes threaten their own industry and negatively affect the social issues associated with it.

Thus, in the current situation, foreign manufacturers of military products, as well as banks that issue loans for such purchases, remain in the black. The Ukrainian leadership is not missing out on its personal political and financial benefits. It demonstrates loyalty to foreign partners, and also does not forget about its own wallet. And personal enrichment is becoming a more important issue than rearmament of the army or the preservation of industry.

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  1. 0
    1 November 2021 05: 31
    And personal enrichment is becoming a more important issue than rearmament of the army or the preservation of industry.
    Is this exactly about Ukraine?
    1. -3
      1 November 2021 06: 26
      A strange article from an author who usually writes balanced information.
      After reading the title, I thought Apukhin or Kharaluzhny. And then Ryabov turns out ...
      Deliveries of foreign equipment and materials during hostilities are usually welcome - let's remember the same Lend Lease. Then the journalists did not write that the USSR could not supply trucks, aircraft engines or buttons.
      And in Ukraine, there is also a war going on. This is an accepted fact.
      Here is the fact that industrial ties have been broken between enterprises, yes. And, alas, no one is happy about it.

      PS By the way, from time to time I look at the Ukrainian military technical sites, and there under some articles the signature is Ryabov Kirill. Not a namesake, by any chance?
      1. +7
        1 November 2021 06: 34
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And in Ukraine, there is also a war going on. This is an accepted fact.

        And with whom is Ukraine generally recognized as fighting? And the enemy of VNAU does not bomb Ukrainian factories with his hands knee-deep in blood?
        1. -3
          1 November 2021 06: 37
          And what, civil, this is no longer a war? Well, corporate ties are also broken inside the country in this case.
          1. +2
            1 November 2021 06: 46
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Isn't it a civil war anymore?

            I really thought that you were talking about the "aggression" of Russia, because VNAU is squealing about it.

            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Well, corporate ties are also broken inside the country in this case.
            Here is no connoisseur of the remnants of the military-industrial complex of VNAU, but in my opinion, almost all of Kuiv's production remained.
            1. -3
              1 November 2021 07: 01
              I am also a "sofa expert". But when you "graze" on specialized Ukrainian sites, you sometimes read about such enterprises, the existence of which did not even suspect!
              However, you are partly right - most of the new ones have addresses closer to Kiev.
          2. +8
            1 November 2021 15: 31
            Well, you somehow interestingly equated the trench war in Donbass, where the most that happens is shootings and the Second World War. The volume of demand for armaments in these cases is quite different.
      2. +5
        1 November 2021 08: 44
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And in Ukraine, there is also a war going on. This is an accepted fact.

        Well, this is a recognized fact only among the gifted. There were no active hostilities after the signing of the second Minskys, except for some local skirmishes, which they themselves often provoke. Where did you see the war there?
        Deliveries of foreign equipment and materials during hostilities are usually welcome - let's remember the same Lend Lease. Then the journalists did not write that the USSR could not supply trucks, aircraft engines or buttons.

        It is absolutely impossible to understand what is going on in the head of this comrade. What other military actions? They also dragged Lend Lees here, too, from a great mind, apparently. Well, what other military actions? They just need to be given a special status, to hold elections and gain control over the border. Everything. And then Lend Lease, and the war ...
        A strange article from an author who usually writes balanced information.

        Write about a strange article and give out such stupidity in the comments. This, of course, needs to be tried.
        1. -10
          1 November 2021 09: 13
          Are you a taxi driver?
          After all, here they are the ones who know what and how to do, but they are not up to it now - they are in a hurry to call.
          If there is no hostilities in the Donbass, then go there and walk from one to the other ...
          to give out such stupidity in the comments. This, of course, needs to be tried.
          Here you are right. laughing Self-critical, but right ...
          1. +4
            1 November 2021 09: 46
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And you probably, taxi driver?

            No
            If there is no hostilities in the Donbass, then go there and walk from one to the other ...

            And what does this have to do with the military actions you are writing about? How long have you been sticking out on VO, but you still haven't got your mind in this area.

            Well, first of all, it’s stupid to offer a person with Russian citizenship to walk from one to the other ... I’m telling you, everything is from a big mind.
            Secondly, the locals walk there "on foot from one to the other."
            Thirdly, even if no one went anywhere, it still would not mean that there is a war going on there. It would simply indicate that no one goes anywhere.

            There is such a thing as a "frozen conflict". For the gifted I will explain that this is not a war and military action. This does not mean that local skirmishes cannot occur during this. Especially when some impudent faces begin to occupy gray areas. But the overall situation remains stable.
            At the moment, everyone agreed that there is no alternative to Minsk. Well, except perhaps Kiev, which was forced to sign them, after a heroic stay in the cauldrons. Everything stopped at the fact that Ukraine does not want to pass certain laws on a special status.
            In order not to rekindle the conflict, most of the Kiev authorities do not supply lethal weapons. If they do, they are prohibited from using it on the contact line. At least for now. Turkey is a separate conversation.

            Therefore, your attempts about the war and Lend-Lease look not just ridiculous, but somehow even ridiculous.
            1. -11
              1 November 2021 10: 04
              Combat operations are the organized use of forces and means for the performance of combat missions by units, formations and formations of combat arms (forces) of the Armed Forces, individual combat arms, special forces and services, that is, waging war at the operational, operational-tactical and tactical levels.
              Here's the wording.
              Try to refute to prove that there is no database in Donbass. If you can, immediately contact the VO editorial office so that they change the rhetoric and subject matter.
              PS Alternatively, write an article: "There is no fighting in the Donbas!"
              1. +6
                1 November 2021 10: 33
                No need to jump off and move the arrows. You wrote about war and military action. I said about the fighting. Only now I also clearly wrote that they are active. You have isolated from all this just fighting and use it as the last straw, justifying your meager mind.
                And in Ukraine, there is also a war going on. This is an accepted fact.

                Did I write this nonsense? Well, what kind of war is going on there? You are talking about some recognized fact there, so you can easily confirm your words. You do not use these formulations, just to give weight to your words. I do not believe in this.
                Deliveries of foreign equipment and materials during hostilities are usually welcome - let's remember the same Lend Lease.

                You have no fighting, you have clear war and military operations everywhere. So where are they?

                And take a comparison of the Second World War with Lend-Lease and what is happening in Ukraine .... It really started knocking from below.
                1. -2
                  1 November 2021 10: 45
                  Well, in Chekhov, for sure, there is no military action.
                  Yes, I wrote what you indicated. Below is the type of military action - civil war. Are you going to deny it?
                  During such, fighting is implied. You deny them.
                  Sorry, but look for another victim for your verbiage. I will not answer you any more due to the hopelessness of the dialogue.
                  1. +6
                    1 November 2021 11: 07
                    Well, in Chekhov, for sure, there is no military action.

                    This is just great.
                    Yes, I wrote what you indicated. Below is the type of military action - civil war. Are you going to deny it?

                    Does military action have a kind of civil war? Well, this is just some kind of trash ... And I thought it was during the civil war that there are military actions.
                    Let me help you. A kind of war is civil (specifically there).
                    And if about the types of hostilities. So this is offensive and defensive.
                    You see, everything is not as complicated as it seems at first glance.
                    During such, fighting is implied. You deny them.

                    I'm already starting to regret writing about active hostilities. I would just write military action, as you said, and did not know grief. And now he gave me a straw, and while isolating just the fighting ones, they accuse me of denying something. Although I wrote about local skirmishes before.
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    Sorry, but look for another victim for your verbiage. I will not answer you any more due to the hopelessness of the dialogue.

                    Due to the futility of your position. Write honestly.
      3. +4
        1 November 2021 09: 39
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Deliveries of foreign equipment and materials during hostilities are usually welcome - let's remember the same Lend Lease. Then the journalists did not write that the USSR could not supply trucks, aircraft engines or buttons.
        And in Ukraine, there is also a war going on. This is an accepted fact.

        The point is not only that there is a war ... also the fact is that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex (ours too, let's be honest) is not always able to provide modern weapons ... where the author found Ukrainian (and Russian, for example, too) ATGM "fire-forget" ? Or an analogue of gpnvg-18?
        PS: For a reason unknown to me, it is customary for us to scold the leadership of the Ministry of Defense 10 years ago for purchasing imported products like mistrals or lynxes. Only the main question is that domestic UDC never appeared, thermal imagers on tanks are still imported (now we assemble under license), and the "tiger" of the 2009 model (when the Iveco LMV was bought, which became a "lynx") was quite inferior to the Italian car in terms of armor protection ...
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      5. 0
        2 November 2021 13: 26
        The Soviet defense industry was already loaded above the roof, plus a temporary drawdown in production caused by the evacuation of industry to the east. Lend Lease only supplemented it. Plus, not only finished products were supplied, but also raw materials in short supply for our own production.
        Immediately on the face of the replacement of your own idle VKP import. Quickly and without smut, but when their specialists finally scatter to the market to trade and retire, and the machines are cut into metal, it will be little realistic to restore everything that was destroyed.
  2. +5
    1 November 2021 05: 43
    Quite expected. Only large states can afford the luxury of producing military equipment themselves, such as Russia, USA, China, Britain, France, Germany, Turkey. Ukraine, having gained independence, rose to the same level with Romania and Bulgaria, and it is simply ridiculous to imagine that Ukraine can produce its own weapons, and even more so to supply them for export.
    1. -10
      1 November 2021 08: 10
      Ltd. "Russia" follows the path of Ukraine. The military-industrial complex is essentially being destroyed.
      1. +4
        1 November 2021 13: 51
        Your brain is being destroyed - yes.
        1. -2
          2 November 2021 15: 18
          The brain is destroyed in putriots who do not see what is happening around them. Monuments to the executioners of the people and outright traitors to this for example. 30 years of living off what was built before you is pure parasitism.
  3. +3
    1 November 2021 05: 45
    Their result is only the emergence of new loans, which will have to be repaid, as well as increased dependence on foreign supplier countries and lenders.

    What's so strange about that? They wanted to make a banana republic out of the Outskirts. Why are they called that? Because selling bananas is a cheap product and with a minimal margin, they buy expensive products - fertilizers, equipment, fuel. That is, a funny fact arises - the more bananas I grew, the more fertilizers I spent - the more I owe. Give me something else ...
    Anyway, the owner, such as Antonov or Kraz, did not need any competitors at all ... But who is the owner, if the Maidan headquarters was officially at the US Embassy, ​​and this is US territory?
  4. -2
    1 November 2021 08: 16
    An article on the principle "I twist, I want to confuse". There was such an advertising chant in the 90s ...
    the magazine “Russia in Global Affairs” published an extensive article “War on International Contracts. Import of weapons and military equipment to Ukraine in 2014–2021 "

    It is understandable what else to write to the magazine, the very name of which says that its theme is about Russia. About Ukraine, of course, what else is everyone writing about.
    the new Ukrainian authorities have banned the import of military and dual-use products from Russia

    And without this, it means that Russian factories would continue to supply components for Ukrainian weapons.
    However, Russia in Global Affairs notes that production still used Russian products. Despite the prohibitions, they were purchased through intermediaries or even directly.

    And in this place it would be logical to cite criminal cases and talk about the work of the FSB against illegal supplies to Ukraine of components for weapons that will shoot in Donbass, but the author somehow bypassed this topic. And it would be interesting to read what was real and what was only from gossip. Or do they sell arms components in Russia from right to left, and the FSB is not interested in this, if only for the sake of an extra star on the shoulder straps? Hard to believe ... Or is there a dominance of SBU agents, that they turn a blind eye to the supply of components for weapons to Ukraine?
    For many years, Ukraine has been trying to build corvettes of the new project 58250.

    The author is not aware that the construction of this unsuccessful and expensive project was abandoned long before 2014? And now corvettes are being built according to a completely different project.
    Germany imposed a ban on the sale of Deutz engines to Ukrainian enterprises

    So it turns out that sanctions were introduced against Ukraine.
    "Ukroboronprom" signed a decision on the adoption of the Ukrainian army BTR-4, adapted for German Deutz engines according to all NATO standards. The head of the concern, Roman Romanov, recorded the corresponding document directly at one of the proving grounds in the Kharkiv region at the end of the equipment tests.

    A wide range of products is supplied from abroad, incl. all ammunition of NATO standards. At the same time, there is practically no own production, and the remaining supply is carried out mainly at the expense of previously accumulated warehouse stocks.

    How skillfully the author described that the Lugansk cartridge plant remained in Lugansk! And not a word of untruth, and the reader will never guess where his own production has gone! In general, the classic "twist-twist ....". Under what thimble is the ball? :))
    In general, each statement from the article needs to be double-checked. It's exhausting, between us.
    It is clear that a significant part of the "twist" migrated from the original article, but the original article is the author's choice? After all, it was not necessary to rewrite, everything that was composed there ...
  5. +1
    1 November 2021 09: 05
    By purchasing foreign samples, the military department deprives its industry of earnings and development prospects.

    Russia successfully passed this stage: Italian armored vehicles, French landing ships.
  6. +1
    1 November 2021 09: 10
    For a second it seemed that the fighter in the photo was jumping from a rubber boat in "tactical shorts", frightening a potential enemy with his bare knees. That these are knee pads, I saw only when the photo was enlarged. Well, a potential enemy may also not immediately see and be frightened. laughing
  7. 0
    1 November 2021 09: 28
    Much that has been said in the article is the general tendency of the collapse of the military-industrial complex in the former Soviet republics by the hands of effective managers. Russia with great difficulty reversed the process of collapse and moved on to development, progress and the creation of the latest types of weapons. If the President of Russia did not support the reforms on the development of the Armed Forces, then the Svetlana under the leadership of the Serdyukovs have long and successfully sold all their military property, and the Army would become their personal and would build dachas for their relatives and roads to them.
    1. 0
      3 November 2021 19: 39
      when did the president of "rf" Ltd. support the development of the Armed Forces not in words but in deeds? "Admiral Kuznetsov" as an example of support.
  8. -6
    1 November 2021 12: 12
    The plot called "Ukraine is kapets, it will soon fall apart and disappear", which has been dragging on since 2014 for almost 8 years, does not work.
    I noticed that in most of the photos and videos about the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the fighters are very well equipped. I think, if necessary, the partners will very quickly supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces with everything necessary, including equipment, ammunition, etc. So the rumors, as usual, are slightly exaggerated.
    1. 0
      1 November 2021 18: 26
      so the author does not write that there is a kapets in Ukraine, it will soon fall apart and disappear, writes that some weapons (watch-oscillator) could be bought from themselves, so that the workers of these factories could earn their money
      most of the photos and videos about the armed forces - special forces, marines and aerial photoworkers - the fighters are well equipped
      what rumors are exaggerated
    2. -1
      1 November 2021 21: 52
      and partners will also supply Ukraine with cannon meat.
  9. -6
    1 November 2021 12: 20
    Quote: Chifka
    For a second it seemed that the fighter in the photo was jumping from a rubber boat in "tactical shorts", frightening a potential enemy with his bare knees. That these are knee pads, I saw only when the photo was enlarged. Well, a potential enemy may also not immediately see and be frightened. laughing


    Well, yes, yumor is our all that remains for us, how not to burn out ...
    What do you dislike about this outfit? Do our Marines even have one? not to mention the infantrymen of ordinary units?
    1. 0
      1 November 2021 18: 27
      there is one, including the infantrymen of ordinary units (look at the Karabakhs)
      and what is so impossible there
    2. 0
      5 November 2021 20: 55
      Key words "it seemed for a second." Well, I just blindly did not consider it, I was a little surprised. Then he enlarged the photo - everything became clear at once. The equipment is cool. Ours, the stump is clear, it's so far away
  10. +2
    1 November 2021 12: 25
    Why "save" its military industry if it hopes only for "convenient" domestic orders? If you are making a competitive product, make money on export. You know how to do only the outdated and useless g @ clearly, which you sell to corrupt generals for kickbacks - don't cry if your competitors beat you.
    Armament should help to solve specific tasks better than the enemy will do it, no matter whether it is imported or domestic. And to rush with his military industry, as with a written sack, just not to cough - so after all, a miser pays twice.
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    -1
    2 November 2021 04: 04
    The article is about nothing .. General, superficial conclusions ...
  13. +1
    2 November 2021 07: 32
    For 30 years of its leaky nezalEzhnost, Ukraine is progressing in only one thing - in the production of embroidered shirts for its stupid citizens.
    1. 0
      3 November 2021 19: 40
      ooo "rf" goes the same way
  14. 0
    8 November 2021 19: 12
    [Center][/ center latest development
  15. 0
    10 November 2021 16: 39
    It is degraded from the 90s onward,
    did any of their factory get modern tooling? I don't think soo,
    what they did export in the past was not received well by customers.
    But nothing to be mazed there, their economy is supposed to work together with Russian and Belarussian,
    but they think they can work with the west, west doesn't want to have Ukraine as a competitor,
    and western defense companies run western politics,
    but same in other segments of the economy, western companies want Ukraine as an export market,
    not competitor, only as a country that will get infinite loans which they cant repay, and then take
    their property
  16. 0
    13 May 2022 13: 29
    Ukraine has everything. What the West does not give us is in a very bad position.