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In the Polish press: "If Poland was betrayed by the EU, will NATO betray us ..."

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The Polish political elite and political science circles continue to exercise in terms of rhetoric about the need for confrontation with Russia. The other day it was announced that Poland is one of those EU states that are in the hands of the severance of diplomatic relations between NATO and the Russian Federation. Now the same author, Witold Jurash, writes that it is extremely important for Poland to achieve an increase in the NATO military contingent on its territory and mutual understanding with Western partners.


The Polish observer writes that the chairman of the ruling Law and Justice party in the country, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, together with Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak recently presented a new bill called "On Defense of the Motherland." The main message of this bill is a significant increase in the number of Polish troops.

From the bill:

Poland must strengthen the projection of its power in the region.

At the same time, the Polish journalist, commenting on the new concept of Polish security, writes that "to counter Russia will have to significantly increase the cost of updating military equipment." According to him, today only a third of military spending goes to such needs.

At the same time, the Polish observer in the Onet edition writes that today only political scientists and geopoliticians can seriously talk about the war with Russia. Military experts, as Yurash writes, "understand the seriousness of the threat emanating from the Russian Federation, but at the same time they do not exaggerate its scale so much that it is necessary to endlessly arm itself if tomorrow is war."

The author writes that today Jaroslaw Kaczynski is under the influence of geopoliticians who paint him pictures of the "terrible Russian threat."

The material also points out that due to its geographical position, Poland cannot act “against Russia” alone. But the problem is that Warsaw trusts the West less and less. Affected primarily by the crisis in relations with Brussels.

From the material in the Polish press, which notes that the level of trust has decreased in recent years:

If Poland was betrayed by the EU, will NATO betray us ...

Further, the author examines the power component of the Polish army, noting that it is still dubious. According to him, "for the first time since 1931, Poland does not have a single normally functioning submarine."

The Polish author emphasizes that the ruling forces of Poland trust the West less and less and are trying to rely more solely on themselves. But, as already noted, the geographical position of Poland is such that support is indispensable.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 29 October 2021 07: 27
    +18
    The pans began to guess about something laughing
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 29 October 2021 07: 44
      +6
      Even if Poland has a strong army, what difference does that make? If nobody needs them, then the army means nothing. If they want to liquidate, the army will not help them anyway, history is a confirmation of this. When you are friends with your neighbors, they will help you in difficult times, even if not all, but many. And if you doggy with all the neighbors, insult and spit in response to a kind attitude, then do not be surprised later that everyone will tear you up.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 October 2021 07: 46
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22

      +4
      The pans began to guess about something

      Only vaguely.
    3. Wedmak
      Wedmak 29 October 2021 08: 03
      +9
      I don’t think .. Panamas simply cut EU subsidies, and live without free money? Pans are generally cunning creatures: they bark at the Russian Federation, but immediately ask to lower gas prices, call for mutual understanding in the EU, but immediately demand subsidies. They generally have a multi-vector brain. True, there is one vector still stands out - "Poland from Mozha to Mozha" for free. Well, you can still have a piece of Russia to the Urals, they will not refuse.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 29 October 2021 08: 30
        +4
        So they sued Gazprom so that the gas price would be 70% pegged to the market and 30% pegged to oil prices, sued 1,5 lard, achieved justice, and now they calculated that Gazprom will overpay 3 lard at new prices for the winter. laughing
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 29 October 2021 08: 33
          +1
          Well, yes. They sued, got. And now he is demanding again. It is not good for the pan to overpay zhezh ...) Even for his own, panov's tapping in the direction of the supplier.
    4. Finches
      Finches 29 October 2021 08: 19
      +3
      They were so stupefied by Russophobia, considering in all seriousness that Putin has a daily routine like Baron Munchausen:

      6 - Rise
      7 - Dispersal of the clouds
      8 - Feat
      16 - War with Poland ... (insert any country) laughing
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 29 October 2021 08: 34
        +2
        Does Putin have double-breasted ones? And then in single-breasted no one fights ...))
    5. Letun
      Letun 29 October 2021 09: 48
      +3
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The pans began to guess about something

      It would not hurt the Panamas to remember how at the end of the 30s they already shared Czechoslovakia with the leader of the then European Union, and a little later this leader already divided Poland itself laughing History teaches nothing request
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 29 October 2021 10: 48
        +1
        Unfortunate geographic location. From all sides.
        You have to understand, sit down and shut up. And they will be happy. bully
  2. alex neym_2
    alex neym_2 29 October 2021 07: 27
    +2
    Thinking, however! Or are they slowly switching to a sober way of thinking?
  3. Pavel73
    Pavel73 29 October 2021 07: 28
    +4
    The darlings rushed about. Poles are famous for their piety and nationalism. And then Western civilization - once! - and slipped them homosexuals and migrants. And now how to be, psya krev ?!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 29 October 2021 07: 35
      +8
      Quote: Pavel73
      The darlings rushed about. Poles are famous for their piety and nationalism. And then Western civilization - once! - and slipped them homosexuals and migrants. And now how to be, psya krev ?!

      They thought that the EU would pour money into them endlessly. And then once - and demanded to work out in full. A million a day fine is cool! Europe will beat back its money in a month. Generally strange. The EU has betrayed them, and there is still hope for NATO. Which countries are NATO members? Not the same Europe + USA? The USA has already shown itself ...)))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 October 2021 07: 46
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        They thought the EU would pour money into them endlessly

        It was not done just like that, oh not just like that ... if you carefully calculate and check everything.
      2. Pavel73
        Pavel73 29 October 2021 07: 47
        +4
        In my opinion, the best way out for Poland is to fuck the EU and reunite with Lithuania and Galicia. And the wolves are fed, and the sheep are safe. For the Polish elite, this will be the greatest victory, almost the restoration of the historical Rzeczpospolita, the Ukrainian Westerners will finally reunite with such a longed-for Europe, and we will finally get rid of this Bandera gadyushnik! :)
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 29 October 2021 07: 55
          +4
          Quote: Pavel73
          For the Polish elite, this will be the greatest victory, almost the restoration of the historical Rzeczpospolita, the Ukrainian Westerners will finally reunite with such a longed-for Europe, and we will finally get rid of this Bandera gadyushnik! :)

          It's true! We will get rid of, but Poland will get that one more present. No, at first the Westerners will be very happy. But then, when they come to them with crumbling pieces of paper on the right of ownership 100 years ago, and demand to return the property, as is usual in Europe, then they will jump! Donbass will be worse.
          1. BARKAS
            BARKAS 29 October 2021 08: 02
            0
            It's true! We will get rid of, but Poland will get that one more present

            These will be isolated cases if there is no funding and leadership.
        2. kytx
          kytx 29 October 2021 08: 46
          0
          There, between Galitsy and Lithuania, the Kaliningrad region is dragging, for example.
        3. Shket53
          Shket53 29 October 2021 11: 46
          +1
          You can't even imagine how all the three nationalities listed by you "love" each other very much ... right up to a friendly massacre ... but I don't care about their "love" ... but if God forbid this reunion happens ... then our Kaliningrad will be simply cut off ... and therefore you will have a minus
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 October 2021 07: 47
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        They thought that the EU would pour money into them endlessly.

        They think so - "freebie pliz", and everyone who went under the Poles also think so. Or am I wrong?
      4. Non-fighter
        Non-fighter 29 October 2021 08: 46
        0
        1 million 750 thousand a day fine. Don't forget about the mine on the border with the Czech Republic.
  4. Chekmarev
    Chekmarev 29 October 2021 07: 32
    +3
    These gentlemen were thrown back in 1939 by their allies England and France, and they were just beginning to guess. Even Estonians think faster than Poles. laughing ... These alternatively gifted people of Polish nationality, it seems, seriously believed that the Americans, British, French and Germans would fight Russia for the sake of Poland and die for the sake of the interests of Poland. wassat
  5. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 29 October 2021 07: 41
    +4
    ***
    Partitions of Poland:

    -The first section of the Commonwealth in 1772,

    -The second section of the Commonwealth in 1793,

    -The third section of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1795;

    - Vienna Congress of 1815, sometimes referred to as the fourth partition of Poland;

    -The non-aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939 is called either the fourth or the fifth partition of Poland ...
    ***
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 29 October 2021 07: 43
    +2
    In the Polish press: "If Poland was betrayed by the EU, will NATO betray us ..."
    ... These are some kind of fairy tales that NATO and the Geyrosoyuz are saviors, straight saviors of everyone and everything, especially "ours" !!!
    If you think about it ..... they don't save anyone, they don't keep their promises, HOW CAN THEY BETRAY? everything is in keeping with traditions.
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  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 October 2021 07: 45
    +3
    If Poland was betrayed by the EU, will NATO betray us ...

    Why not betray? Are you the navel of the Earth, or God's chosen ones? Georgia was thrown, Afghanistan was betrayed, France was thrown - well, Poland, as always, has been thrown and smeared over the past 300 years. Read those manuals (the story is called), or ask your grandfathers.
  9. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 29 October 2021 07: 45
    +2
    The vain Poles chose both Augustus and Conti as kings. Trouble began ...
    (A. Tolstoy. Peter 1)

    All Polish "Wishlist" usually lead to the next partition of Poland.
    They wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
    (V.S. Chernomyrdin)
  10. Xlor
    Xlor 29 October 2021 07: 47
    +1
    If Poland was betrayed by the EU, will NATO betray us ... "

    As in 1939 they betrayed, so they will betray later ...
  11. igorra
    igorra 29 October 2021 08: 08
    0
    The broken trough can begin to be prepared.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 29 October 2021 08: 10
    0
    Oh how! The Poles began to suspect that they could be thrown by the Americans, and the rest of NATO members? What prompted them to think so seriously ............... laughing laughing lol
  13. BARKAS
    BARKAS 29 October 2021 08: 24
    +1
    Pans run into one more section.
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 October 2021 08: 24
    0
    Polyakov does not teach me anything about life. Their European woman threw before the Second World War, their European woman is bugging today, and they still hope for her support of Polish pants. laughing Wait! NATO is not to help the American mongrels, but for the good of the United States.
  15. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 29 October 2021 08: 32
    +1
    In the Polish press: "If Poland was betrayed by the EU, will NATO betray us ..."

    Hyenas have no friends.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 October 2021 08: 42
      +1
      They will be used as necessary amers and merge. That they still do not understand it then?
  16. Vdi73
    Vdi73 29 October 2021 10: 01
    +2
    Lyakhov all his life someone betrays, but simply no one can stand them for a long time, since their impudence and selfishness have no boundaries. Correctly Churchill once said, hyenas. Yes, in the Warsaw bloc they were not particularly "digested". I think they will be divided for the fifth time, it is not possible to tolerate them for a long time, and Europe and Russia "bargain" to calm the hyenas.
  17. prior
    prior 29 October 2021 10: 06
    +2
    The pans "shit" on the mat to the European Union and accuse the latter of treason.
    Polish ambition, as it is.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 October 2021 10: 51
    +1
    Poland must strengthen the projection of its power in the region.
    So project through the projector onto your wall in a Polish apartment.
    will NATO betray us ...
    Will betray, be sure to betray. An arrogant bore, and even constantly demanding something, no one likes. They tolerate using it for their own purposes, and then ...
  19. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 29 October 2021 15: 05
    0
    And with whom did the pans gather to fight, or from whom to defend themselves?
    Hike the cash flow of support of the pants from E.S. dried up, and even the fines were soldered, then E.S. The same became their enemy.
    The British were the first to sniff out that E. S. with the new members would not go far and dumped in a hurry.
  20. boris epstein
    boris epstein 29 October 2021 15: 49
    0
    Necessarily betray. EU and NATO are two faces of one Janus.
  21. bashkir
    bashkir 29 October 2021 18: 36
    0
    Well, the grain of the article is "At the same time, the Polish observer in the Onet edition writes that today only political scientists and geopoliticians can seriously talk about the war with Russia."
  22. Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 29 October 2021 18: 44
    +1
    As far as I understand, Poland voluntarily joined the EU - a supranational political entity, having lost some of its sovereignty. She also voluntarily joined NATO. You cannot be completely sovereign and be members of NATO and the EU at the same time. It doesn't happen
  23. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 29 October 2021 21: 29
    0
    The fifth partition of Poland is announced. And hopefully the last one.