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Head of Rosneft: A century of low energy prices is over

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Head of Rosneft: A century of low energy prices is over

The century of low energy prices is over. It has stimulated global economic development, but may soon come to an end.


This statement was made by Igor Sechin, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Rosneft, during his speech at the XIV Eurasian Economic Forum.

High energy prices will certainly slow economic growth

- said the head of Rosneft.

He focused on changing the structure of the global energy sector. According to Sechin, the processes of changing the global energy structure should be carried out in a balanced manner. Otherwise, the world economy risks falling into a steep inflationary spiral, from which it will be extremely problematic to get out.

This may be due to the fact that the refusal to stimulate traditional energy industries causes a reduction in investment in the extraction and production of energy resources. And this, in turn, can lead to their deficit and, accordingly, rise in price.

An illustration of Sechin's words can be called the rise in prices for natural gas in Europe, which began at the end of this summer. By the beginning of October, they reached almost two thousand dollars per thousand cubic meters, after which they began to decline. To date, prices have corrected at just under $ 1000. At the same time, it is already quite obvious that the so-called price hikes are not fiction. At any moment, energy prices can jump up again, the cause of which may be a variety of processes both in the economy and in politics.

At the same time, sky-high prices for oil and gas are now unprofitable for Russia itself. Indeed, in this case, another effect of dumping into total raw material exports may occur.
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  1. blackberry
    blackberry 28 October 2021 18: 07
    +43
    - the era of low energy prices is over -
    Interestingly, will we (Russia), as oil exporters, be in the black?
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 28 October 2021 18: 12
      +34
      Quote: Mora
      - the era of low energy prices is over -
      Interestingly, will we (Russia), as oil exporters, be in the black?

      We, but by no means the Russian Federation, but any abomination, will continue to cut coupons, not do a damn thing for the real sector, rob the country and export everything abroad, with the permission and blessing of the main friend of all raw materials producers.
      1. Anarchist
        Anarchist 28 October 2021 18: 38
        +23
        Sechin is a direct expert in the world economy. For him, the state (RF) pushes foreign contracts. Our army is guarding these contracts ... But he is called an international-class top manager with an exorbitant salary.
        1. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 28 October 2021 18: 51
          +17
          Quote: Anarchist
          Sechin is a direct expert in the world economy.

          How to say. You don't have to run far to remember that oil boom with the Saudis. Then, in panic, everyone began to drive the barrel and yell at Sechin that we do not know what we are doing with the oil, but time has judged and the Arabs still gave the back. And in word and deed, as they say.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 20: 13
            0
            Quote: El Chuvachino
            but time has judged and the Arabs still gave the back.

            Are you exactly aware of the details of the agreements between the governments of the SA and the Russian Federation?
            For the sake of interest, compare the exchange rates of Russia and Saudi Arabia over the past 5 years.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 28 October 2021 22: 01
              +2
              The century of low energy prices is over.

              What is the basis for this conclusion? Without it, it looks like just an unfounded statement.

              At the same time, sky-high prices for oil and gas today unprofitable and Russia itself

              Excess money did not seem to bother anyone! Especially the poor people of Russia. But here, just, there is no need to experience illusions. No matter how much money there is at the top, it will still not reach us.

              Indeed, in this case, another effect of dumping in total raw material exports.

              Isn't that so now? Hydrocarbons going through pipes to foreign countries are the main source of currency and the main item for filling the budget.
              1. Uran53
                Uran53 28 October 2021 22: 16
                +3
                Yes, my friend, you are naive! In our country, the share of raw material earnings in the budget is constantly decreasing and now it is less than 50%, since the "surplus" goes into the box. The rest is taxes, fines and other levies from "non-resource workers".
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 28 October 2021 21: 12
            +5
            Quote: El Chuvachino
            How to say. You don't have to run far to remember that oil boom with the Saudis. Then, in panic, everyone began to drive the barrel and yell at Sechin that we do not know what we are doing with the oil, but time has judged and the Arabs still gave the back. And in word and deed, as they say.

            And now the Saudis and other Emirs are listening to Sechin's speech standing up and regularly interrupting it with thunderous applause.
            And that's right, that's good. bully
          3. Sahalinets
            Sahalinets 28 October 2021 23: 16
            +7
            I wanted to write exactly the same thing. Sechin is a friend of Himself and this is his only merit. The rest is complete zero, like all the others are friends.
          4. 72jora72
            72jora72 29 October 2021 03: 30
            +3
            and the Arabs did give the back
            Only the merits of Mr. Sechin are not here at all (from the word at all).
          5. sustav75
            sustav75 29 October 2021 08: 06
            -2
            O! Sechinophil! Also, probably some kind of manager, the lowest level. Somewhere falls from the master's table, baby ...
            1. El Chuvachino
              El Chuvachino 29 October 2021 10: 38
              -2
              I have a directing education and work in the relevant field. It still disposes to work with your head and not divide the complex world with primitive labels into black and white.
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 28 October 2021 19: 14
          +22
          This hog has not yet paid for the floating dock drowned due to the fault of Rosneft - well, this is not a tsar's business, but Kuzya - these are traces of a past highly developed civilization, it may not need to be repaired.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 28 October 2021 20: 17
            +6
            Quote: Aviator_
            .... "Kuzya" - these are traces of the past highly developed civilization, it may not be repaired.

            hi Yes, Sergei, we are talking about Soviet civilization, which was diligently destroyed, as the Soviet factories were destroyed.
            1. sustav75
              sustav75 29 October 2021 08: 13
              +6
              Destroyed, just Vovina's friends. Sechin, Chubais, Miller and other tops. And with relish and some kind of pathological feature ...
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 October 2021 23: 45
            -9
            "This hog has not yet paid for the floating dock drowned due to the fault of Rosneft." This hog shipyard Zvezda built on which, if necessary, a new floating dock will be built - although Russia does not have such experience, all these floating docks of the PD series were purchased by the USSR from Sweden.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 29 October 2021 07: 48
              +3
              This hog shipyard Star

              At the time of flooding, the floating dock belonged to Rosneft, which optimized operating costs - there was no fuel in the emergency generator, and wet snow cut off power from the shore. As a result, we have what we have. And about the "Star" - he built it from scratch?
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 24
                -5
                Judging by the state of this floating dock and 40 years of operation, it sank not only because there was no diesel fuel for the pumps, but because of metal fatigue and structural failure. Zevezda is a completely new plant on the site of the old one.
        3. lucul
          lucul 28 October 2021 20: 21
          +10
          Sechin is a direct expert in the world economy.

          He only said that the era of "light" hydrocarbons is over. And now, in order to extract raw materials, it is required to dig deeper into the ground. ))))
        4. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 28 October 2021 23: 44
          -4
          Quote: Anarchist
          Sechin is a direct expert in the world economy.

          Of course not. And the experts ... They're all buzzing here, yeah. Yes Over there, from top to bottom, "conclusions" and "summary" are already being thrown. fellow But this is so, everyday life, routine. The very same tsimes happens on weekends, when most of them are also on a double glass, although some do not need to drink. wassat
        5. sustav75
          sustav75 29 October 2021 08: 02
          +3
          Vova Putin said that if such "valuable" top managers as Sechin are not paid such huge salaries, they will be lured away by the West ... and the slaves will trust Vova.
      2. I am not a robot
        I am not a robot 28 October 2021 18: 58
        -24
        that is, if a worker in the north earns more wages on the oil platform, he will become an abomination
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 28 October 2021 19: 00
          +8
          Quote: Janerobot
          that is, if a worker in the north earns more wages on the oil platform, he will become an abomination

          You perfectly understood about whom I said, and it is hardly worth commenting for the sake of juggling.
          1. I am not a robot
            I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 02
            -11
            but the workers will also work there, and here is a distortion
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 28 October 2021 19: 11
              +4
              Are there many of these workers as a percentage of the rest? And everyone pays for transportation costs.
              1. I am not a robot
                I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 13
                -10
                And are there many of these workers as a percentage of the rest? -Who are the rest
                And everyone pays for transportation costs.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 28 October 2021 19: 16
                  +2
                  Are you sure you're not a robot? From the rest of the Russians.
                  Quote: Janerobot
                  And everyone pays for transportation costs.

                  This is about the fact that the cost of an energy carrier is included in any product, and not only in production.
                  1. I am not a robot
                    I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 22
                    -15
                    Well, for example, what's the difference between a robot and I'm not a robot, what will change from this
                    Are there many of these workers as a percentage of the rest?
                    and besides, here are the transportation costs
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 28 October 2021 19: 24
                      +5
                      Quote: Janerobot
                      the rest is who

                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      From the rest of the Russians.

                      This is all of us who do not produce oil.
                      Quote: Janerobot
                      and here transport costs

                      Despite the fact that gasoline will rise in price. Heating will rise in price, and so will energy.
                      1. I am not a robot
                        I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 43
                        -11
                        that is, you want a person working in the North (frost, field conditions) to share his salary with you, he does not want it to be an abomination.
                        for example, the size of the budget depends on oil and gas (and these are roads, hospitals, schools, etc.)
                        but the prices for gas, petrol and energy are still some of the lowest
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 28 October 2021 19: 47
                        +3
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        you want a person working in the North (frost, field conditions) to share his salary with you-

                        I do not want. I want us not to be a gas station.
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        gas, petrol and energy prices are still among the lowest

                        Until 2025, I wrote already.
                      3. I am not a robot
                        I am not a robot 28 October 2021 20: 00
                        -4
                        Well, for this we need to produce competitive products (while we need to develop everything ourselves, and the West just buy a license)
                        you did not write anything about 2025 above
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 28 October 2021 20: 06
                        +4
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        and to the west it is easy to buy a license

                        Do they buy from aliens? There is Skolkovo, somewhere nanochubais hangs around with nanotechnology, there is a patriot Prokhorov with a yo-mobile ...
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        you did not write anything about 2025 above

                        I wrote below.
                      5. I am not a robot
                        I am not a robot 28 October 2021 20: 11
                        -1
                        just as an example. for example, a mini machine gun was developed in belgium, the Americans just buy a license and produce at home, we have to develop and spend time and money ourselves (instead of a machine gun, you can put other products)
                        clear
                      6. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 28 October 2021 23: 51
                        0
                        All these industries should pay off - and only then will they begin to bring profit to the country and, along with it, GDP growth, but engaging in high-tech industries, one should not expect large profits from them.
                      7. Ross xnumx
                        Ross xnumx 28 October 2021 19: 58
                        +7
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        that is, you want a person working in the North (frost, field conditions) to share his salary with you, he does not want it to be an abomination.

                        They want to tell you that the worker in the North receives the same handout as in the middle lane, only taking into account the Poles. And all the fat goes to shareholders, half of which are foreign.
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        for example, the size of the budget depends on oil and gas (and these are roads, hospitals, schools, etc.)

                        Only the size of shareholders' dividends and the size of cash flows to the West depend on oil and gas prices in Russia.
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        but the prices for gas, petrol and energy are still some of the lowest ...

                        ... (for gasoline) in Venezuela, Iran, Sudan, Nigeria, Kazakhstan; (for gas) in Kazakhstan ...
                        You are confused. In Russia, one of the lowest minimum wages.
                      8. I am not a robot
                        I am not a robot 28 October 2021 20: 17
                        -5
                        so all over the world all workers receive a handout from the lord's table, so to speak, and the fat goes to shareholders, half of whom are foreign capitalism
                        well that's not true
                        I said one of the lowest
                        relatively low prices - relatively low monthly salary, I know people who receive the monthly salary, but they receive the rest in an envelope,
                        it is better to calculate income and expenses - a better quality indicator
            2. Oleg83
              Oleg83 28 October 2021 19: 13
              +6
              Quote: Janerobot
              but the workers will also work there, and here is a distortion

              Ordinary workers will no longer earn money from the amount of oil sold and its price. Only Sechin and other top managers will earn more
              1. I am not a robot
                I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 15
                -12
                are you sure of this or write as part of the fight against the regime (according to the manual)
                1. Oleg83
                  Oleg83 28 October 2021 19: 18
                  +8
                  Quote: Janerobot
                  are you sure of this or write as part of the fight against the regime (according to the manual)

                  According to the training manual, only people like you write all sorts of nonsense. For whom are you scribbling the weight of this nonsense? In real life, all normal people know what's going on.
                  1. I am not a robot
                    I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 36
                    -13
                    in real life, there are no those horrors that you describe (but not the jelly shores (or somehow embellish them) about which the authorities say, too)
                    the same comments as you write, for example, I see under the videos of the YouTube manual
                    you write nonsense, why can't I, freedom of speech (for the sake of it, like you (fighters against the regime) destroyed the Soviet Union)
                2. sustav75
                  sustav75 29 October 2021 08: 21
                  +1
                  Doesn't the word "training manual" make you sick yet? Or someone like you for every word "manual" is paid with a hard ruble?
              2. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 28 October 2021 22: 58
                +1
                Quote: oleg83
                From the amount of oil sold and its price

                there will be large taxes on profits to the budget of the Russian Federation ...
              3. Vadim237
                Vadim237 28 October 2021 23: 53
                0
                There is no money in a vacuum - it will work, and the entire economy, all money is always in motion.
            3. lis-ik
              lis-ik 28 October 2021 19: 16
              0
              Quote: Janerobot
              but the workers will also work there, and here is a distortion

              Are you an oilman? If not, then I take it as chatter. The workers earn in any case and no one shares the dividends with them. Otherwise it sounds like the brotherly people of Ukraine.
              1. 27091965
                27091965 28 October 2021 19: 30
                +6
                Quote: lis-ik
                Are you an oilman? If not, then I take it as chatter.


                Workers in the oil industry, depending on the place of work of workover, drilling, production, receive approximately the same salary in different organizations, the difference is not big.

                and no one shares dividends with them


                In order to receive dividends, you must have shares of the enterprise.
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 20: 16
                +1
                Quote: lis-ik
                Are you an oilman?

                No, he is a Zaputin salary troll. By the way, he gets money from our taxes.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 28 October 2021 21: 25
                  -8
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  Are you an oilman?

                  No, he is a Zaputin salary troll. By the way, he gets money from our taxes.

                  ))))))))))))))) what are your huge taxes
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 21: 40
                    -7
                    Quote: poquello
                    what huge taxes do you have?

                    So for your taxes too. laughing
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 28 October 2021 21: 45
                      -3
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Quote: poquello
                      what huge taxes do you have?

                      So for your taxes too. laughing

                      the share of his money in my taxes is somehow insensitive, and not because the amount of tax money is huge, but because the share is scanty)
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 21: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: poquello
                        his denyushka's share in my taxes is somehow insensitive

                        If you think so, then Sechin's salary is not such a big burden for the taxpayers of Russia. laughing
                      2. poquello
                        poquello 28 October 2021 22: 30
                        -3
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: poquello
                        his denyushka's share in my taxes is somehow insensitive

                        If you think so, then Sechin's salary is not such a big burden for the taxpayers of Russia. laughing

                        Chief Executive Officer of the oil and gas company PJSC NK Rosneft does not receive salary from the budget, on the contrary, PJSC NK Rosneft replenishes the budget of the Russian Federation by paying all taxes, excise taxes, etc.
          2. hrych
            hrych 28 October 2021 19: 14
            -4
            Quote: lis-ik
            We, but by no means the Russian Federation, but any abomination, will continue to cut coupons, not do a damn thing for the real sector, rob the country and export everything abroad

            And Boreas and Ash are not for the Russian Federation, Zircons and Poseidons are not for the Russian Federation? That's right ... not for the Russian Federation, but for the United States and others like them laughing to destroy them. With regards to the current situation. Did you not notice that there was, and is going on, the most severe economic war? Have you heard about the sanctions? They did not give us engines for the fleet, helicopters, etc. They didn’t give us materials for jets, etc. The Russian Federation had to compensate for all this in the shortest possible time in the real sector of the economy. And what kind of "green" energy? It was also a program to combat Russia and reduce dependence on extractive countries. Well, we got into a puddle. So, it's amazing that Russia withstood this economic war and ... won a Victory. And it does not happen that one side survived, and the other did not suffer damage. Here it is, this damage. The Western economy is on the brink of disaster, including their sixes. Russia stood against the Golden Billion and even more of its mongrels. China separated from the West during this war with the Russian Federation. Turkey has been postponed. Pakistan fell away The British fled from the EU and created AUCUS against China. The British calculated everything in advance that now Eastern Europe would break the back of the EU founders and fled. Aggravation in Donbass, as a gesture of despair. But right there, Moldovans, Poles and Nezalezhnaya are talking about gas prices. Hit with Beyraktar, good. In response, Putin said that after filling our storage facilities, we can also fill European ones, then immediately the prices dropped a little, and Germany scolded Nenka. The Poles were given a cartoon euro a day, and so on. The average person in the Russian Federation does not go hungry. Yes, I would like a higher standard of living, but millions of young people are not thrown into the crucible of the World War, teenagers do not fall from hunger and exhaustion at the machines. Rejoice that our Supreme wages the World War in this way and not otherwise. And even for your posts they are not sent to the Belomorkanal wassat .. while.
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 28 October 2021 19: 32
              +10
              aha .. it means we won economically .. what place we have in the economy in terms of GDP and from world production? even the USSR could not defeat the West with the 2nd economy of the world, but we could ... not bad not bad ... laughing
              1. hrych
                hrych 28 October 2021 19: 42
                -12
                And GDP is a tricky indicator and means absolutely nothing. This is an example of Russia, which in your opinion does not mean anything, only the main threat to America for some reason. But GDP in the real sector of the economy per capita in Russia is no less than in the United States and above China. On the other hand, the Russian Federation, with a population half that of the United States, maintains parity in strategic weapons. Did he understand what he said? That the USSR with the second economy died and went bankrupt, suggests that its second economics did not mean absolutely nothing. And it was not the Russian Federation, but the USSR that pulled gas pipelines to Europe. It was the USSR that spent gold on the purchase of wheat in the USA, it was the USSR that fed the troglodytes. And not the USSR, but the RSFSR. All the juices were sucked out of it, including the union republics. But the Russian Federation sells wheat and among the leaders. RF does not spend gold, but accumulates it. RF pipes are used as an effective weapon. And now it's only October, according to tradition, General Frost will come to kill Poles, Banderlog, etc.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 28 October 2021 19: 55
                  +11
                  if you really believe in everything that you have written, I also want it so much .. what happiness it is to live in such a world ... it's a pity I can't do it .. but I'm glad for you hi
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 28 October 2021 20: 01
                    -9
                    And what did the regime displease you with? Are you starving? Did the adoption of the 4 Premier League this year please you? Or is it a pity that Sechin is so rich that you cannot eat?
                    1. Bomb
                      Bomb 29 October 2021 12: 45
                      -1

                      Well, something like this...
                  2. sustav75
                    sustav75 29 October 2021 08: 51
                    +1
                    One should not rejoice for the sick, but sympathize with them. There is clearly a clinic.
                  3. Bomb
                    Bomb 29 October 2021 12: 03
                    -1
                    User Hrych from a parallel universe =) you shouldn't argue with him, otherwise he will bite for Sechin and Co. In fact, everything is much simpler. The minimum wage in euros: Lithuania - 730, Estonia - 654, Latvia - 560, Russia - 170. Now you can open the manual, the hatch of the armored car and talk about the fact that everything is expensive =), get a fifth job, a suitcase-station, etc. ...
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 29 October 2021 13: 19
                      0
                      Not only you apparently broke the egg. There is such a PPP (purchasing power parity). We take Latvia for 2021 and look. The minimum wage in 2021 is set at 430 €. The average salary (before taxes) is 997 euros, after taxes is about 700. The average pension is about 300 euros. You're already lying. Prices for all types of household expenses are higher than in Russia, but salaries in Latvia are also higher, so residents of this country spend about the same percentage of their income on living as Russians. 20-40% of the budget is spent on food, and up to 15-20% on utility bills. So what?. A loaf of bread costs one euro. For example. With regards to Moscow, the level of salaries there is higher than Russia, in general, and more Balts, taking into account the PPP. And Moscow is more than any Baltic states with losses. The standard of living in Moscow is not inferior to the developed countries of the Golden Billion. Therefore, wide-eyed Ukrainian, with your propaganda, go with God.
                      1. Bomb
                        Bomb 29 October 2021 17: 25
                        +1
                        It seems that you are a nice man from the white stone. Have you forgotten that there are other cities besides maaaaaskvy? Do you have acquaintances living in Latvia? Let them read your lampoon and find out the real average salary and prices for groceries in stores. Your minimum wage figure is close to unemployment benefits. A two-room apartment in Riga - 50 average city salaries, a two-room apartment in Moscow - 145 average city salaries. Let's compare further? And there, in the Kremlin, betray - even if the quality of gasoline and cheese will be controlled. And then something, shit became shit ...
                      2. hrych
                        hrych 29 October 2021 19: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Bomb
                        shit has become shit ...

                        Should it be candy? wassat Go figure it out with Zelensky, but we don't ask the scholars here wassat
                2. The popuas
                  The popuas 28 October 2021 20: 06
                  +6
                  Wheat in the summer in China was bought because it was cheaper than local ... wink I also have a breakthrough!
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 28 October 2021 20: 22
                    -12
                    Those. when the USSR spent all the gold in the batch when buying wheat from the United States - it was a great breakthrough, and that the Russian Federation sold wheat in 2020 one and a half times more than the United States - is this also a breakthrough for me? By the way, the Chinese have nothing to do with, our main buyers are Turks, Egyptians, Saudis and Vietnamese.
                    1. The popuas
                      The popuas 29 October 2021 05: 40
                      -1
                      Why are you poking these USSR at me !? I wrote you an answer to your comment about the record grain harvest in the Russian Federation .... there is no sense in it! From the elevator to the flour mill 15 km ... But ... it's cheaper to drag from China for 6000 km ...
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 29 October 2021 05: 58
                        -2
                        What are you poking me with this China? I wrote you an answer to your comment. Why the hell is this no use? China in 2020 impOrdered more than 8 million tons of wheat, and the Russian Federation the exported about 40 million tons, becoming the leader in wheat exports, overtaking the United States, Canada, etc. China spent currency, and Russia earned. This is bad? This is not a breakthrough? No use? What do you want then? Or do you only caress your ears when Russia gets dirty? What kind of people are you?
                      2. The popuas
                        The popuas 29 October 2021 06: 17
                        -5
                        Yeah ... sold to Egypt and bought in China ... profit! wink
                      3. hrych
                        hrych 29 October 2021 06: 25
                        -2
                        Don't you really understand? China buys wheat in large quantities. He cannot feed himself. wassat Don't answer me, I won't even read. Count it as you like, I don't mind.
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                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 28 October 2021 23: 58
                    -6
                    We now have an open market economy - everyone decides for himself what to buy from whom and how much, so buying Chinese wheat is your decision. How do the Chinese buy our meat and ice cream this summer?
                    1. The popuas
                      The popuas 29 October 2021 05: 43
                      -3
                      There is no market ... from the word at all! There is speculation! Chinese 1.5 billion of them all need to be fed and therefore drag meat from all sides! Beef from Russia, buffalo meat to Russia!
                      1. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 35
                        0
                        Yes, speculation is the market and there will be nothing to speculate if there are no goods and services.
                3. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 20: 28
                  +9
                  Quote: hrych
                  But GDP in the real sector of the economy per capita in Russia is not less than in the United States and above China.

                  Are you raving or something? belay In which real sector can this be seen? Electronics, clothes, household appliances? Tractors, cars? No, import rules. The hyped-up Superjet and MCs occupy what percentage of the air carrier fleet? To check this, just go to their website, and when choosing a flight, the brand of the aircraft will be visible. And these are all Boeings and Airbuses.
                  Wake up already.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 28 October 2021 20: 40
                    -14
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Are you raving or something?

                    You yourself are delusional. Enlighten yourself, maybe you will reach a little why the Russian Federation is so poor and so strong.
                    https://topcor.ru/732-vvp-rossii-ssha-i-kitaya-neozhidannoe-sravnenie.html
                    Boeings and Airbases drove out the aging Soviet park, and it was the current regime that took care of the Jet and the MC. Over time, they will be supplanted. Most of the cars, including imported brands, are assembled in the Russian Federation. This is already our auto industry. It's better not to stutter about the Soviet one. And nobody is confused by the division of labor in the world, no, such as you think that Russia is obliged to do everything by itself. Let the Chinese sew panties and make telephones. And what you will wear and what to ride, I personally do not care, on the scale of civilization - this is nothing. The main thing is that Russia is the leader in nuclear and jet technologies, makes combat, quantum emitters and atomic-powered aircraft.
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 20: 50
                      +9
                      Quote: hrych
                      Most of the cars, including imported brands, are assembled in the Russian Federation. This is already our auto industry.

                      Well, tell me what is ours in it? Workshop buildings or what? lol
                      And I don’t need links to the articles of the Putin economists - there is zero economics, manipulation of figures. Which are easily refuted.
                      Quote: hrych
                      The main thing is that Russia is the leader in nuclear and jet technologies, makes combat, quantum emitters and atomic-powered aircraft.

                      Have you re-read science fiction? wink Spending on science and education is cut in the budget every year, and you keep repeating about some kind of breakthroughs. fool
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 28 October 2021 21: 10
                        -14
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        what is ours in it?

                        Our citizens work there and pay taxes with us. They pay and consume our energy, etc. I have already said that I am not interested in everyday things, including cars, gadgets and leggings. It does not matter. If you don’t want to understand that there is a real sector of the economy, if you don’t want to understand that the population in the United States is 2,2 times larger than ours, and in China, almost 10 times, then there is nothing to talk about. In your opinion, Russians should plow 2,2 times more Americans and 10 times more Chinese? For the sake of showing great GDP data?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Have you re-read science fiction?

                        No, I've seen enough of Putin's cartoons. True, there are already video filming of hypersonic missiles, quantum emitters, etc. Rosatom is the leader in the nuclear industry. Don't listen to me, but Tim Yeoh, Chairman of the Special Committee on Energy and Climate Change of the House of Commons of the UK Parliament. "Russia has advanced nuclear reactors compared to other suppliers," Yeo said in an interview with Saudi online media outlet Sabq. "Russia is the leading exporter of its nuclear technologies, it occupies over 50% of the world market," he added. Come on go argue with Tim Yeoh wassat
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 21: 18
                        +10
                        Quote: hrych
                        If you do not want to understand that there is a real sector of the economy,

                        It's hard for believers to explain mathematics.
                        Expenditures on education, social services and health care are falling every year, and this is without taking into account inflation. You are again about mythical achievements. Where can you touch them?
                        At least kill, but if the stove is not heated, the house will not be warmer.
                      3. hrych
                        hrych 28 October 2021 21: 49
                        -9
                        Don't pretend to be a mathematician wassat : Nobody cuts spending on social services. This is an outright lie. Also say that in a pandemic they spend less on health care. With regards to education. This is another blizzard of communists. In the Russian Federation, the proportion of people with higher education is greater than in the RSFSR. Moreover, more than three times, almost four times. There, the leader in the USSR in terms of the share of educated was Kyrgyzstan. Russians were not supposed to be educated. Even if you say that education is worse, a person with a current "bad" university will be more educated than a Soviet ignoramus. The level of education itself was low. I graduated from a university back in the USSR, I was even engaged in science and already under the Russian Federation fled to the security forces. There were no normal reagents and equipment. Everything was done the old fashioned way. The first lousy computers, we got it for currency. A couple of pieces. What level of informatics can we talk about? In the West then in the eighties there was a scientific and technological revolution due to the introduction of computers. MRI, CT, analysis for markers, gas analyzers. All these devices, due to the introduction of computer processing, have revolutionized medical diagnostics, for example. And the Union slept through this revolution. The Germans alone in the USSR did MRI before the collapse, when there were 10 thousand of them in the United States. Although the method was developed by a Russian scientist. And compare the current students with the Soviets. Yes, Sovdepovsky simply did not know which side to approach the PC from. So what? Cool educated? Now the programmers are our coolest.
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 22: 06
                        +6
                        Quote: hrych
                        Nobody cuts spending on social services. This is an outright lie. Also say that in a pandemic they spend less on health care. With regards to education. This is another blizzard of communists

                        Holy, holy, blessed is he who believes! laughing
                        The draft budget for the 22nd year is publicly available. And the amounts for these items of expenditure are easy to check for this and previous years, and compare.
                        Quote: hrych
                        So what? Cool educated? Now programmers are our coolest

                        Perhaps that is why we use Google, android, Windows and other imported software? wink
                      5. poquello
                        poquello 28 October 2021 22: 40
                        -5
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Perhaps that is why we use Google, android, Windows and other imported software?

                        Probably you need money from the budget for your own? )
                      6. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 10: 28
                        -1
                        Quote: poquello
                        Probably you need money from the budget for your own? )

                        No money left?
                      7. hrych
                        hrych 28 October 2021 23: 04
                        -6
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        This is probably why we use Google, android, Windows and other imported software

                        Whether someone's pension was lowered. laughing Okay, I'm not interested at all. You are interested, so continue to protest until the funnels creak.laughing And I know that Russia supplied wheat to the world market one and a half times more than the United States a year, although their population is 2,2 times more. Thanks to our Communist Party, the Internet was created in the West, when we did not have a PC. And our programmers had to go and fight on the enemy's field and according to his rules. Softwares are no longer a problem and our own software has appeared in our defense industry (Herbarium). The fact that the party put our programmers in an unequal position is also a credit to them. The game "Tetris" from the Soviet programmer Alexey Pazhitnova is known all over the world - the number of downloads of the official mobile version of the game in 2020 exceeded 500 million, not to mention pirated. More than 500 million people around the world use the Telegram messenger from Pavel Durov. The Kotlin programming language, created by Russian developers Sergey Dmitriev, Evgeny Belyaev and Valentin Kipyatkov, is considered by Google to be a priority for developing applications on Android. Cut the Rope puzzle games from Russian developers Semyon and Efim Voinovs have been downloaded more than 1 billion times. For more than ten years, Russian programmers have been taking first places in major international Olympiads, such as The ICPC International Collegiate Programming Contest and International Olympiad in Informatics. You can remember about Kaspersky in Sue. Few?
                      8. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 10: 27
                        -2
                        Quote: hrych
                        And I know that Russia supplied wheat to the world market one and a half times more than the United States per year.

                        And therefore, the price of wheat this year on the domestic market has grown by 40%. Last year, the price of feed wheat was 11-12 thousand rubles per ton, this year 17500 rubles per ton. Shall I say how much wages and pensions have grown, or will you calculate it yourself?
                        Quote: hrych
                        You can remember about Kaspersky in Sue. Few?

                        Share of Kaspersky in the antivirus market.
                      9. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 19: 17
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Share of Kaspersky in the antivirus market.

                        to pour shit on Russia is your profession?
                        "US government agencies and their contractors have lost the ability to use Kaspersky Lab software. The ban is perpetual, it applies not only to major institutions, but also to commercial contractors, plus IT service providers for government agencies."
                      10. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 19: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: poquello
                        to pour shit on Russia is your profession?

                        Since when did voiceover of facts become shit-shit? You there, in your guardianship, do not use logic at all? fool
                        Quote: poquello
                        US government agencies and their contractors have lost the ability to use Kaspersky Lab software

                        Are they tearing their hair? wink
                      11. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 19: 43
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: poquello
                        to pour shit on Russia is your profession?

                        Since when did voiceover of facts become shit-shit? You there, in your guardianship, do not use logic at all?

                        to voice the fact about the share of Kaspersky and forget the fact that the United States has eliminated a competitor by directive - in the rest we have a curve information, a kingdom of curves? )

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: poquello
                        US government agencies and their contractors have lost the ability to use Kaspersky Lab software

                        Are they tearing their hair? wink

                        maybe they tear, Kaspersky is considered the top in protection
                      12. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 20: 29
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        to voice the fact about the share of Kaspersky and forget the fact that the United States has eliminated a competitor by directive

                        And you wanted. so that the Pendos continue to entrust the protection of classified government data to the firm of a potential adversary's country?
                        In addition, Kaspersky was not a strong leader even before the sanctions. In 2014, it occupied 4% of the market, and was never considered the top in the world.
                        https://news.myseldon.com/ru/news/index/219212382
                        Quote: poquello
                        kingdom of curves?

                        Picnic fan?
                      13. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 21: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And you wanted. so that the Pendos continue to entrust the protection of classified government data to the firm of a potential adversary's country?

                        Well, as if at that time our countries were considered countries with a market economy, something suddenly the American market did not ski)))))))))))))))))))
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        In addition, Kaspersky was not a strong leader even before the sanctions. In 2014, it occupied 4% of the market, and was never considered the top in the world.

                        according to your link)))))))))))) (about the link later))))))))))))) 7%
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        https://
                        ... tra-la-la Gartner, and in North Korea the North Korean firm is in the world top))))))))))))))))) give up positions. "))))))))))), just an aggressive method of installation on a PC has borne fruit and this people .. began to be more attentive and more often to nail it, because it is not a virus to climb tea without asking)))))) ))))))))))))))),
                        and finally, Kaspersky in the top 3 tests has 81% of the first places in independent laboratories)
                      14. poquello
                        poquello 28 October 2021 22: 39
                        -3
                        Quote: hrych
                        All these devices, due to the introduction of computer processing, have revolutionized medical diagnostics, for example. And the Union slept through this revolution.

                        IMHO the USSR did not oversleep it, but fell into conflict with progress due to a non-free society - fear of duplicating, copying equipment and information carriers in free circulation among Soviet citizens
                      15. gsev
                        gsev 29 October 2021 00: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: hrych
                        Yes, Sovdepovsky simply did not know which side to approach the PC from. So what? Cool educated? Now programmers are our coolest.

                        In my memory, in the late 1980s, Soviet programmers made analogs of almost all Western programs. It was possible to use almost complete analogs of text editors. Now it is impossible to find analogues of Vord and Windows made in Russia. I used editors-translators for the production of automatic programs made at the machine-tool plant. Now all the software that I use comes from China and Taiwan. I had to compare the qualities of a graduate of a Russian technical school five years ago and a Pashtun drafted into the army at about 16-17 years old. Pashtun, in my opinion, was more highly educated. A graduate of a modern Russian technician had to literally teach how to hold a screwdriver and close the terminals for fastening wires. Otherwise it can not be. Modern students of technical schools in Russia are prohibited from working in industrial practice. When I suggested that the trainee who was looking at my manipulations to enter the parameters into the frequency recorder himself, he refused, saying that he was forbidden. But it seems to me that studying in a modern technical school taught him that working with his head and hands is the lot of losers who did not get rotten grain places. And this was not even in Moscow, but in Novosibirsk. I have a suspicion that under our cool programmers you have working on the calculations of American new aircraft. But these guys in five or ten years will become American citizens and an apartment in Houston and a Filipina maid. And in mathematics, they are 90 percent strong thanks to self-study and competent guidance from their parents. And in 20 years they will be instructing German and American citizens.
                      16. hrych
                        hrych 29 October 2021 01: 29
                        -3
                        Quote: gsev
                        Now it is impossible to find analogues of Vord and Windows made in Russia.

                        Look bad. Comparing students to troglodytes, of course, your speech devalues.
                      17. gsev
                        gsev 29 October 2021 02: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: hrych
                        Look bad.

                        In those days, some software was more convenient than imported and was all free. Now Taiwanese and Chinese software is free for me. My attempts to find cheaper PLCs, HMIs, servo drives and frequency converters with free software have failed. I came across a Tula converter 5 times more expensive than a Chinese one. In addition, the complete bundle is interesting. I have an employer who boasts that his son will develop translators. But for his production, he pays for the work of strangers who make him programs on a Taiwanese translator.
                      18. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 29 October 2021 08: 46
                        0
                        everything is more expensive here, they will soon ban the use of Western software and you will buy Russian software 5 times more expensive
                      19. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 19: 21
                        0
                        Quote: gsev
                        to enter the parameters into the frequency recorder himself, he refused, citing that he was forbidden

                        that's right, do not skip, twist the screwdriver yourself, and
                        Quote: gsev
                        close the terminals

                        he will learn how it is more convenient for him))))))))))))))))))))))))))
                      20. gsev
                        gsev 30 October 2021 21: 36
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        he will learn how it is more convenient for him

                        In my opinion, the biggest problem of modern Russian industry is the impossibility of training with modern technology. Nobody entrusted this trainee at the institute to gain experience and develop hand motor skills on equipment worth $ 200 for a frequency recorder and a cost of $ 300 as part of a full training stand. intelligence communications and provided the Russian military-industrial complex with orders from friendly countries. In one order, I was able to get paid six months for the study of Lenze's products and the creation of a machine for the armored industry of a foreign country. On this basis, after another 20 years, I began to widely use frequency drives in my developments. A trainee could have peeped at my skills and not repeat the mistakes in the 1998 project when he had the opportunity to prove himself as an engineer or manager.
                      21. poquello
                        poquello 31 October 2021 01: 15
                        0
                        Quote: gsev
                        In my opinion, the biggest problem of modern Russian industry is the impossibility of training with modern technology.

                        the impression is that you got stuck in 1998, unpretentious chastotniki Lentse cost well 20 thousand, the same and other brands for near-kilovat capacity, what is the problem for the department to acquire this device?
                      22. gsev
                        gsev 2 November 2021 06: 49
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        unpretentious Lentse frequency units cost well 20 thousand

                        And why do I need Lentse kilowatt frequency drives for 20 rubles, if 000 kilowatt Chinese ones for 3 rubles work on my equipment? Saving 11 or more on components can ruin the employer for a salary of 000 rubles.
                      23. poquello
                        poquello 2 November 2021 18: 11
                        0
                        Quote: gsev
                        Quote: poquello
                        unpretentious Lentse frequency units cost well 20 thousand

                        And why do I need Lentse kilowatt frequency drives for 20 rubles, if 000 kilowatt Chinese ones for 3 rubles work on my equipment? Saving 11 or more on components can ruin the employer for a salary of 000 rubles.

                        I don’t know where it works for you, the conversation was about "the impossibility of training on modern technology", I said about the price from about the ceiling), because for the same Lenze it is different for the same device for organizations of different profiles), too and Omron and Schneider, etc.),
                        Quote: gsev
                        if my equipment is powered by 3 kilowatt Chinese for 11 rubles

                        as far as I remember, the Chinese have never been distinguished by super prices for frap, a small price difference does not compensate for the unforeseen risks of new equipment that has not been tested by the time of operation, well, it's a matter of taste)
                      24. gsev
                        gsev 6 November 2021 03: 27
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        as far as I remember, the Chinese have never been distinguished by super prices for frap, a small price difference does not compensate for the unforeseen risks of new equipment that has not been tested by the time of operation, well, it's a matter of taste)

                        If the frequency operator costs 2 times cheaper, then the interest on the loan for the new frequency operator will have to be paid 2 times less and the loan can be repaid 2 times faster .. With 5 years of work of the frequency operator, it pays off based on the interest paid on the loan. In any frequency drive, capacitors dry out first of all, therefore, with the correct selection of the frequency drive in terms of power, heat exchange, the requirement for chokes and braking resistors, the Chinese one will not be inferior in reliability to Schneider, Lenza or Siemens. If Gazprom switched to Chinese components, its debt load would drop 2-3 times.
                      25. poquello
                        poquello 6 November 2021 11: 27
                        0
                        Quote: gsev
                        If the frequency converter costs 2 times cheaper

                        Well, the Chinese PDS is not worth two times cheaper, perhaps you were offered branded more expensive, there is a difference of 30% maximum, although it may have changed, but it is doubtful because the Chinese jaws fell to the floor from the price at which we took Italian pumps, they are port could not offer such a price
                        Quote: gsev
                        In any frequency converter, capacitors dry out first.

                        yeah, especially film in Vakone))))))))))))))))))))))
                      26. The popuas
                        The popuas 29 October 2021 05: 55
                        -1
                        You shoot yourself in the foot fool
                      27. hrych
                        hrych 29 October 2021 06: 00
                        -1
                        You, Papuan, are smart as I see it beyond your years wassat
                      28. The popuas
                        The popuas 29 October 2021 06: 15
                        -4
                        Well, duck ... everything is simple ... there were no kompukters in the USSR, which is probably why the 'Sovdep' student did not know which side to approach him from ... Logic is not yours lol
                      29. gsev
                        gsev 29 October 2021 13: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Popuas
                        .. everything is simple ... there were no computers in the USSR, which is probably why the 'Sovdep' student did not know which side to approach him from ..

                        By 1991, almost all the adjusters of the equipment maintenance workshop had a personal computer based on the ZILOG processor. Particularly advanced ones were played with Japanese processors. In Moscow, I had more or less free access in the evening to the SM computer, on which I tried to implement an editor printing algorithms for delivery to the program listing guide. In Noginsk I had a Japanese candy bar at my complete disposal. Now I am using a laptop supplied by the Americans to Afghanistan. So the Russian industry lives in a separate dimension from the plans of the Russian government. The software that I need for production is not in the plans of the Russian government for import substitution.
                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 03
                    0
                    Then I asked about Russia's export supplies and found very interesting figures who would have thought that Russia produces and exports so many refrigerators
                    1. gsev
                      gsev 29 October 2021 02: 36
                      -3
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      how many refrigerators are produced and exported

                      the refrigerator lives for 15 years. The family has 2 refrigerators. The country needs 6 refrigerators.
                      That is, about 15% of production is exported.
                      1. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 40
                        0
                        At the end of the 80s, the USSR exported 1200000 refrigerators for export - for free and barter. ...
                      2. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 20: 06
                        0
                        Quote: gsev
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        how many refrigerators are produced and exported

                        the refrigerator lives for 15 years. The family has 2 refrigerators. The country needs 6 refrigerators.
                        That is, about 15% of production is exported.

                        oh how, but I thought that they take it and go, but someone likes Chinese haers or Turkish Vestels, and all together forms a variety of choices
                    2. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 10: 34
                      +1
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      Then I asked about Russia's export supplies and found very interesting figures who would have thought that Russia produces and exports so many refrigerators

                      The brands of refrigerators, the country of manufacture of components and the recipient of the profit - were you interested in this, or, as always, the power of your processor was not enough? wink
                      1. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 44
                        +1
                        The country receives taxes from this and jobs - and the fact that brand owners get profit why not they created their own offices and we organized assembly and production there is an office Pozis - a Russian brand and manufacturer of refrigerators. And your old processor has long been lacking for anything, since it has lagged behind life and the understanding that the market economy is not planned distribution.
                      2. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 17: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        there is a Posis office

                        Do you know the Pozis market share? 4,5%, Biryusa 5,2%, Indesite 20%. Chinese Haers entered Russia in 2014, and have already surpassed Pozis and Biryusa combined.
                        Vadik, have you tried to think analytically, and not just urya-patriotically? wink
                      3. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 20: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        there is a Posis office

                        Do you know the Pozis market share? 4,5%, Biryusa 5,2%, Indesite 20%. Chinese Haers entered Russia in 2014, and have already surpassed Pozis and Biryusa combined.
                        Vadik, have you tried to think analytically, and not just urya-patriotically? wink

                        but what did you want to say? )))))))))))) the share of Russian assemblies is present on the market, it is not present in the size of the error stat, which is already pleasing
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 20: 31
                        0
                        Quote: poquello
                        the share of Russian assemblies is present on the market, it is not present in the size of the statistical error, which is already pleasing

                        Growth dynamics should please, not presence! wink
                      5. poquello
                        poquello 29 October 2021 21: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: poquello
                        the share of Russian assemblies is present on the market, it is not present in the size of the statistical error, which is already pleasing

                        Growth dynamics should please, not presence! wink

                        growth provides the ability to sell, this is the market (but I have nothing else to do, how to follow the dynamics))))))))))))
            2. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 28 October 2021 20: 38
              +13
              Quote: hrych
              And Borei and Ash is not for the Russian Federation

              Em. Open the list of nuclear submarines of our Navy. With the date of commissioning. Count what was handed over in the 90s, and with the wise indelible. Make a discovery for yourself. The dashing 90s, according to the indicator, the nuclear submarine was introduced per year, in general, it is ahead of the stable 2000s. So .... Exactly boreas and ash trees, in the list of achievements, should not be included. It is with them that it is a complete failure. Even against the background of the 90s.
              1. hrych
                hrych 28 October 2021 20: 56
                -10
                What kind of heresy? The last SSBN Dolphin was launched in 1990. Under EBN, not a single SSBN was built. And now the sixth Boreas is preparing to launch.
                1. Lannan Shi
                  Lannan Shi 28 October 2021 23: 01
                  +7
                  Quote: hrych
                  Under EBN, not a single SSBN was built.

                  What for? SNV agreement Did not hear? Build and cut straight away?
                  Quote: hrych
                  What kind of heresy? The last SSBN Dolphin was launched in 1990.

                  Heresy is to believe that only SSBNs belong to nuclear submarines. Ash trees, by the way, are also no sideways to them. And so ... 1992-99, 8 years old, 11 or 12 nuclear submarines were delivered. Close to 1.5 nuclear submarines a year is approaching. For 22 years of Putinism ... Closer to 0.5 comes out. Let's not talk about the Premier League, okay? Better tell us about the yachts. Here they are, in reality, in shoals in the fleet. True, not a military man, but a whore, but such trifles should not embarrass a real Putinist.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 28 October 2021 23: 23
                    -4
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    Heresy, it is to assume that only SSBNs belong to nuclear submarines.

                    There is a nuclear submarine and Losharik, And now Poseidon is an atomic ship. Actually, he does not need a carrier, but according to his capabilities, he is a "strategist". With regards to Ash, they are opposed to Antey with a narrow specialization with anti-ship missiles and torpedo Shchuk-B, completely different. Ash trees are already real multipurpose and the main tasks are already strategic. Now cruise missiles have reached thousands of kilometers and hypersonic speeds, therefore, they are close to the capabilities of SLBMs. And if they do receive a Petrel of unlimited range, then they will simply become SSBNs. Antey, of course, is also being modernized for this, it will be cool, but under the current regime. I'm not interested in yachts at all, they are worrying you. I absolutely don't care. We have capitalism, so what? Sechin will be recorded in history textbooks, on a par with Prince Potemkin-Tavrichesky. The latter also lived on a grand scale and his palace was no worse.
                    1. Lannan Shi
                      Lannan Shi 29 October 2021 00: 12
                      +5
                      You forgot to say one phrase.
                      The whole Earth has gone crazy, only one normal - I

                      Ага.
                      Quote: hrych
                      With regards to Ash, they are opposed to Antey with a narrow specialization with anti-ship missiles and torpedo Shchuk-B, completely different. Ash trees are already real multipurpose and the main tasks are already strategic. Now cruise missiles have reached thousands of kilometers

                      What about 30 years ago? And the same Yankees, for example, were going to stamp torpedo sivulfs in full growth? And on half-rocket / one-and-a-half torpedo angeles just because of poverty went? And the Chinese do not shun torpedo multipurpose weapons even now? And the antheas with granites, then, were, as it were, not more relevant than ash trees now.
                      By the way. Do you happen to have any thoughts that the army and navy were degraded during the temporary detention facility? Not a single T-90, panima, not even a flooded mosquito in the fleet. Do you have a lot of complaints about Pete first? In general, he destroyed the army. I chased soldiers with some kind of fuze, and not with AK and Pechenegs.
                      That's all. For to take seriously the displeasure that 30 years ago there were no modern weapons .... Honestly. I don't even remember when such nonsense was voiced.
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 29 October 2021 00: 45
                        -5
                        Praise on your part was EBN against the GDP so and so. Those. they say in the dashing 90s it was steeper than now. This, of course, is the real nonsense.
                      2. gsev
                        gsev 29 October 2021 02: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: hrych
                        Those. they say in the dashing 90s it was steeper than now.

                        In 1990 Russia was successfully nightmarized by Gelayev and Basayev. In the 2000s, Putin had already killed the winners of Yeltsin. This clearly shows what Russia was like under Yeltsin, and what it has become after Yeltsin.
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        2. Yarik
          Yarik 28 October 2021 19: 52
          +8
          And who told you that this hog pays the workers a decent salary ??? Did you work there?
          1. poquello
            poquello 28 October 2021 21: 33
            -8
            Quote: Yarik
            And who told you that this hog pays the workers a decent salary ??? Did you work there?

            is it you by analogy "-What, and you can not ask?", or is there something specifically?
        3. businessv
          businessv 28 October 2021 23: 24
          +2
          Quote: Janerobot
          that is, if a worker in the north earns more wages on the oil platform, he will become an abomination
          You, Sapar, straight from the platform and to the computer! Do you know many workers who transfer their earnings abroad, build yachts, palaces with these funds, send children to study in naglia, etc.? If there are many, then hint where exactly they work, maybe there will be vacancies there! But seriously, do not muddy the waters and do not annoy the people with nonsense!
        4. sustav75
          sustav75 29 October 2021 08: 16
          0
          Apparently we are talking about a top-end abomination ...
      3. Killemall
        Killemall 28 October 2021 19: 12
        -3
        I have to ask another question ... but if we imagine that Russia and a number of interested countries will take and swing the price of energy resources to such heights when even baking a loaf of bread outside the borders of energy-producing countries will be worth its weight in gold, where will the production of all these Chinese go? .. Europeans and other adherents of the global capitalist religion? how soon will they transfer these industries to countries with a positive production / consumption balance and maintaining low energy prices in their territories?
      4. from Dagorlad
        from Dagorlad 28 October 2021 20: 11
        +3
        Here, you are right to the point, we are not the Russian Federation, we are taxpayers and are always obliged, and those exporters are in a cross (+), and I hope that an aspen cross is stuck in them
      5. lucul
        lucul 28 October 2021 20: 35
        -11
        rob the country and export everything abroad, with the permission and blessing of the main friend of all raw materials producers.

        It makes almost no sense to export - in the West, there is a serious drop in living standards, which will only grow. With high prices for raw materials, Europe will face serious deindustrialization, and with it a drop in living standards to the level of Russia.
        1. The popuas
          The popuas 29 October 2021 06: 10
          -1
          Tricky move again laughing Why raise the standard of living in Russia, when it is possible to raise energy prices and lower the standard of living in the West to Russian wassat
      6. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 28 October 2021 22: 56
        +4
        Quote: lis-ik
        export everything abroad, with the permission and blessing of the main friend of all raw materials producers.

        So it seems from Ivan the Terrible Russia drove hemp and fur to the west, what has changed now, only the name of the raw material has changed?
      7. businessv
        businessv 28 October 2021 23: 16
        -3
        Quote: lis-ik
        We, but by no means the Russian Federation, but any abomination, will continue to cut coupons, not do a damn thing for the real sector, rob the country and export everything abroad, with the permission and blessing of the main friend of all raw materials producers.
        Forgive me for being off-topic, but where did the article "How the Russian people are driven into a new wonderful world" and comments to it go? Instead, I get a 404! smile Wonderful! And you are right, until we destroy this system, everything will be so!
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 28 October 2021 18: 13
      +18
      In my opinion, how we lived badly and will continue to exist. Gasoline and all derivatives will only rise in price.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2021 18: 31
      +6
      Quote: Mora
      Interestingly, will we (Russia), as oil exporters, be in the black?

      Someone will be in the black, but here you are and we are all on the site, we will only be in the red. Don't believe me?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 October 2021 20: 47
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Someone will be in the black, but here you are and we are all on the site, we will only be in the red. Don't believe me?

        Well, on the downside, I realized that 25% do not believe it.
    4. Cananecat
      Cananecat 28 October 2021 18: 33
      +5
      Quote: Mora
      Interestingly, will we (Russia), as oil exporters, be in the black?

      The Russian Federation will certainly be in the black as an exporter. But the population of the Russian Federation will arrive in general nearby,
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    6. spirit
      spirit 28 October 2021 19: 04
      +12
      This is the soothsayer who joined the CPSU IN 90) All the world oil exporters, all the Middle Eastern OIl economies for many years have been spending a significant part of the money on the development of alternative sources of income, since everyone understands perfectly well that oil is the raw curse of any economy and the buffet table will soon end. And only we have such "pros" as Sechin all discussing high oil prices, living for one day and tomorrow even a fire. hi
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 14
        -2
        Today it has fallen in price tomorrow it has risen in price - in fact, no one lost money, since they did not sell anything at a reduced price.
    7. maiman61
      maiman61 28 October 2021 19: 04
      +3
      We will not be in the black. And those who have ALWAYS been in the black!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 46
        0
        I will have shares and orders for the repair of equipment are the same from oilmen, and now, when winter is approaching, we can raise big money on oil quotes.
        1. maiman61
          maiman61 30 October 2021 12: 45
          0
          Read carefully! In the black will ALWAYS be those who have always been in the black. And what side are we here?
    8. alystan
      alystan 28 October 2021 19: 06
      +1
      It was for him that Naila wrote the text of her speech, probably?
    9. s.adviser
      s.adviser 28 October 2021 19: 18
      -2
      I will keep silent about you, but Sechin and his fellows will be in the black
    10. ja-ja-vw
      ja-ja-vw 28 October 2021 19: 38
      +4
      Quote: Mora
      the era of low energy prices is over -
      Interestingly, will we (Russia), as oil exporters, be in the black?

      still in what!
      waiting for AI-95 gasoline at 75 rubles, and diesel fuel at 78 rubles.
      I looked at the photo in the article and remembered the classic

      Shl.
      a mystery to me, as a graduate of the Faculty of Philology of the Leningrad State University. A.A. Zhdanova, who studied in the Portuguese group, can petit in
      the processes of changing the global energy structure should be carried out in a balanced manner. Otherwise, the world economy risks falling into a steep inflationary spiral, from which it will be extremely problematic to get out.

      I've been dragging a briefcase, dragged, but my mind has not increased
    11. Hanurik
      Hanurik 28 October 2021 22: 17
      +2
      Strange, we write (RF), and the comment header says Mora. We are not RF.
    12. Far B
      Far B 29 October 2021 00: 34
      +1
      the era of low energy prices is over

      Miller (before 2008) promised that Gazprom is about to become the richest company in the world, because the era of low prices ...
      Putin is like that in 2014 - oil will not fall below 80 bucks, because then the entire world economy of the Khan ...
      Why are they all drawn to the prophets ??? Moreover, the prophets, some of them, as if on selection, shitty
    13. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 29 October 2021 21: 34
      0
      Well, we won't, but Mr. Sechin will.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 28 October 2021 18: 13
    0
    Well, how to understand him? Sechin has an eternal high or something, and he has absolutely nothing to worry about further. Oil and gas are produced and successfully sold. And then there is nothing to worry about. What do Russians get from this era of high prices?
    1. Runoway
      Runoway 28 October 2021 18: 21
      +3
      What are the Russians from this era of high prices?

      Like what? - we have world prices for everything, and the quality and income of African colonies
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    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2021 18: 53
      +9
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, how to understand him? Sechin has an eternal high or something, and he has absolutely nothing to worry about further.
      Forbes published who "got rich" in Russia during the pandemic, for a total "modest" amount of $ 70 billion. Here is an eternal thrill for them.
      The other day we showed a "modest" wedding of a 60-year-old former deputy finance minister and senator. Vavilov, from the age of 24. Sophia Antoinette (nee Sonya Kashina). Dozens of criminal cases were brought against him, 230 lemons of greenery allocated by India disappeared offshore. Generally released from Russia, and immediately took the line in Forbes. The main thing was calmly registering in Moscow, the wedding was on Lake Kamo in the castle, the people lived at his expense in a 5-star hotel (but each room had a mask and an alkoseltzer). Well, the audience, especially the "medams", all with plastic, botax, and ate (one lady was often shown) ate black caviar like a tablespoon, but held bread with two fingers. The presenter (one of) was Ksyusha and her invited mother, a senator.
      And people in Moscow are forced to walk in masks, and if not in masks - a fine, and for non-vaccination they are always allowed to go to the cinema and restaurant.
      Here they have an eternal buzz "every day".
      1. Glagol1
        Glagol1 28 October 2021 20: 44
        +3
        Ksyusha is also in the subject of an accident now. Especially on the puzzle "how to get stuck in an accident with fatalities and not be late for the plane"
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 16
      -2
      They say in Rosneft that he will retire in a few years.
  3. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 28 October 2021 18: 15
    +5
    you are our handsome man, what clever people all the associate professors with candidates gathered at the top
  4. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 28 October 2021 18: 16
    -1

    Rosneft CEO Igor Sechin said:

    ▪️The accumulated deficit of investments in the world, necessary to meet the demand for oil, in 2021-2025 may amount to $ 135 billion.

    ▪️Sechin began his speech about energy transition against the background of Repin's painting "Barge Haulers on the Volga". Then he explained that it is impossible to switch to "green" energy without reducing the speed and changing people in their usual life. RIA

    ▪️Even in the long term, renewable energy will not be able to completely replace traditional energy resources

    ▪️The era of relatively low energy prices, which has lasted for almost 100 years, may come to an end
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 28 October 2021 20: 38
      -4
      Europe is just not screaming about saving the planet and green energy. Frau Ursula is calling for a transition to green energy as soon as possible. So, China decided to listen to her and also save the planet from CO2 emissions. For this, he stopped supplying to Europe (94% of all smelting) magnesium metal, which is very light and is used in machine and aircraft construction. The fact is that coal is needed for its production, which greatly spoils the atmosphere. In addition, coal is now in short supply in China. Don't think that Chinese leaders are angry with European leaders for meddling in their internal problems with the Uyghurs. In no case. They are saving the planet and are in solidarity with Europe in this. wassat
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 28 October 2021 21: 04
        -2
        Today it will snow in hell, crayfish are whistling in chorus, and pigs are flying in schools to the south: The Wall Street Journal and its experts admit that Russia was right about something, although they emphasize that "this is temporary."

        WSJ:
        “For years, the European Union has tried to loosen Russia's iron grip on gas supplies by fostering a competitive import market. Those efforts have boomerang this year as supplies dwindled, causing an energy crisis across the continent.
        European energy ministers met on Tuesday to tackle gas shortages that plague homeowners and drive up prices for goods from metals to fertilizers. But there is little they can do to immediately increase supplies, and Russia is not helping. [approx. Crimson: cry me a river! "the market has settled"!]

        Over the past decade, European officials and companies have successfully pressured Russian energy giant PJSC Gazprom, which is by far the largest supplier of the European Union, to replace long-term oil-linked contracts with contracts based on market gas prices. in real time. This was part of a broader effort, opposed by Gazprom, to create a deeper market in which various gas suppliers compete for European business. But only part of the way has been covered. Russia remained the dominant supplier, giving Moscow enormous influence over one of Europe's leading sources of electricity and home heating. [...]
        “The Russians have told us for centuries: don't do this, it's stupid, stick to oil-linked prices,” said Jonathan Stern, a research fellow at the Oxford Institute for Energy Research. "They've been wrong all the time over the past 10 years, but this year they were right."
        https://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-push-to-loosen-russian-influence-on-gas-prices-bites-back-11635327001

        If you suddenly feel sorry for the Europeans or if you are upset that they realized their mistake, which means that Gazprom will no longer see super profits, then do not worry. Things are good. Everything is stable:

        WSJ: "The EU says its current gas problems are temporary and caused by a confluence of factors as the economy emerges from pandemic isolation; the EU leadership has shown no inclination to return to the old system."

        The greedy pays - twice - three times, the proud - constantly.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 20
      -2
      In this case, an oil tanker or an LNG carrier or a stuck Kamaz fuel tanker with the inscription Rosneft should have been drawn behind the backs of "Burlakov on the Volga" - otherwise it is not canonical and not ironic.
  5. for
    for 28 October 2021 18: 20
    +4
    "Finally, gasoline will get cheaper."
    1. novel66
      novel66 28 October 2021 18: 30
      +5
      great joke ... sad, really ...
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 28 October 2021 19: 02
        -1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        great joke ... sad, really ...

        Set aside to be sad! Soon there will be an article by Staver, where they will explain to us how these words should be understood and outline the horizons for joy.
        1. novel66
          novel66 28 October 2021 20: 42
          0
          oh, I'm afraid I'm afraid ...
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 28 October 2021 18: 31
      -2
      Quote: for
      "Finally, gasoline will get cheaper."

      We must wait for the maximum "drop in price" and buy all the money, maybe even sell the apartment and all the real estate?
    3. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 28 October 2021 18: 55
      -2
      and why should he get cheaper if resources continue to rise in price
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 20: 35
        -1
        Quote: Janerobot
        and why should he get cheaper if resources continue to rise in price

        Does your wife provide you with the Tver service tariffs? After all, the price rises there too! wink
        Do you have any brains at all? Why are petrol and gas cheaper in Kazakhstan, because they buy oil from us?
        1. I am not a robot
          I am not a robot 28 October 2021 21: 05
          -3
          Kazakhstan: in January - August 2018, the volume of imports was about 590 thousand tons, then in the nine months of 2019 it decreased to 18,7 thousand tons. However, the share of gasoline exports is only 0,3% .- brehlo
          large excise taxes are included in the price of gasoline and gas in Russia, which go to the budget (roads, infrastructure, etc. are being built), in Kazakhstan there are less excise taxes (but prices are also growing there)
          first look the brains in your head
          do not project your family affairs on me, if you have such a relationship, these are your problems
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 21: 12
            -1
            Quote: Janerobot
            -brechlo

            Who is nonsense? You? Does Kazakhstan buy oil from us or not? Analytics are not held in high esteem in your troll chat? wink
            Quote: Janerobot
            large excise taxes are included in the price of gasoline and gas in Russia, which go to the budget (roads, infrastructure, etc.

            Are roads and infrastructure not being built in Kazakhstan? Have you been to Astana at least once?
            Quote: Janerobot
            don't project your family affairs on me,

            For the gifted I will explain - this is an associative example that for ITS population, world tariffs should not play a role. Like the wife's borscht in the kitchen, it cannot be priced at restaurant tariffs.
            But as I wrote above, analytics is not yours ...
            1. I am not a robot
              I am not a robot 28 October 2021 21: 26
              0
              why then in the us gasoline is either growing or falling according to oil prices (for ITS population, world tariffs should not play a role)
              under construction in kazakhstan, but there is less excise tax on gasoline
              Kazakhstan is an oil exporter (an exporter is a country selling goods)
              what analytics is just the ability to use Google
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 28 October 2021 21: 36
                -3
                Quote: Janerobot
                Kazakhstan is an oil exporter (an exporter is a country selling goods)
                what analytics is just the ability to use Google

                Oil and oil products occupy about 8% of the import structure of Kazakhstan.
                No, you see, even Google is not yours! laughing
                P.S. The last question for logic - will the decrease in fuel prices entail a multiplier effect in the country's economy?
                1. I am not a robot
                  I am not a robot 28 October 2021 22: 15
                  0
                  for what year and where to read about it?
                  well, not mine, so not mine, what can I do
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 29 October 2021 10: 37
                    -1
                    Quote: Janerobot
                    for what year and where to read about it?

                    It would be better if you were a robot, at least you can upgrade the processors there! To the elementary level of a Google user! laughing
                    https://ru-stat.com/analytics/8051
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 21
        -1
        Why should he get cheaper if the price of gasoline in Russia is 65% of government taxes.
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 28 October 2021 21: 12
      -3
      And with the transition to electric vehicles, how relevant will the question of the price of gasoline be? More and more countries and automakers are planning to abandon internal combustion engines by the early 30s.
      1. for
        for 28 October 2021 22: 00
        0
        Quote: Sergej1972
        about the price of gasoline will be relevant

        It may not be relevant, but the price of electricity will skyrocket. They began to switch to gas, soon the price of gas will be equal to that of gasoline, otherwise it will be more like diesel.
      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 29 October 2021 08: 59
        0
        and where to get electricity? this is nonsense, they will occupy a certain niche and that's it
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 49
        0
        And there, the massive distribution of electric cars, the barrier will put a shortage of raw materials for the production of the same batteries; in the end, all these electric cars will sharply rise in price and will not be affordable for the majority of the population.
  6. sub307
    sub307 28 October 2021 18: 28
    +1
    Quote: lis-ik
    We, but by no means the Russian Federation, but any abomination, will continue to cut coupons, no shit
    1. sub307
      sub307 28 October 2021 18: 38
      -2
      Based on your statement, it follows that "we" is "every abomination ...". Because, in your opinion, it turns out that "we" are by no means "RF."
  7. Alexga
    Alexga 28 October 2021 18: 32
    +11
    [quote] [/ quote] Board of Directors

    Gerhard Schroeder
    Chairman of the Board of Directors of Rosneft Oil Company, Independent Director


    Igor Sechin
    Chief Executive Officer, Chairman of the Management Board, Deputy Chairman of the Board of Directors of Rosneft Oil Company

    Matthias Warnig
    Deputy Chairman of the Board of Directors of Rosneft Oil Company, Independent Director


    Faizal Alsuvaidi
    Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC NK Rosneft


    Hamad Rashid Al-Mohannadi
    Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC NK Rosneft


    Robert Dudley
    Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC NK Rosneft


    Karin Kneissl
    Member of the Board of Directors of Rosneft Oil Company, Independent Director


    Bernard Looney
    Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC NK Rosneft


    Alexander Novak
    Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC NK Rosneft

    Maxim Oreshkin
    Member of the Board of Directors of PJSC NK Rosneft


    Hans-Jörg Rudloff
    Member of the Board of Directors of Rosneft Oil Company, Independent Director
    Board of directors

    And what is Russian here ?!
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 28 October 2021 18: 42
      0
      Is Grandma Merkel not planning to go there?
      1. for
        for 28 October 2021 19: 22
        +2
        Quote: Ros 56
        And grandma Merkel

        In Gazprom, the topic of gas is close to her.
      2. NKT
        NKT 28 October 2021 19: 56
        0
        She will be put on SP3)
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 28 October 2021 20: 01
      -1
      Quote: AlexGa
      And what is Russian here ?!

      Your message contains letters ... laughing
    3. Glagol1
      Glagol1 28 October 2021 20: 39
      0
      Compiled! True, Schroeder is a good man, but the rest ...
  8. The popuas
    The popuas 28 October 2021 18: 33
    +14
    I have one question! Why are 'our' chief executives all the time talking about the global economy, when our 'economy' in the world is just a percentage error !?
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 28 October 2021 18: 40
      +3
      because they ruin our economy for the sake of the global
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 October 2021 20: 05
        +1
        Quote: Ryaruav
        because they ruin our economy for the sake of the global

        Our economy has been turned into a raw material economy, where not everyone has enough money from the sale. Moreover, if there is a harvest in Russia and the wholesale prices for food fall, different brokers sell the goods where they pay more for it. At the same time, the Russians eat a cheap substitute or generally unknown food composition and name.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 27
          -5
          And for the USSR, the economy was not barter for an hour for the most part - they traded with 160 countries, but only 40 countries paid with money from the USSR, they were capital countries and they paid in bulk for the raw materials supplied by us, and back the USSR bought high-tech equipment, machinery, food, consumer goods, for raw currency. In fact, nothing has changed, just Russia has ceased to distribute products and raw materials to all those in need on the right and on the left for a great life and thanks to coconut barters.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 29 October 2021 08: 21
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            In fact, nothing has changed, just Russia has ceased to distribute products to all those in need.

            In fact, everything that went to the development of the state's economy and social programs began to float into the pockets of the nouveau riche ...
            stop And don't touch this topic again ...
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 29 October 2021 14: 55
              0
              For that, in everyday life, everything has changed for the better, there is no longer a deficit - there is a huge choice for everyone in their pocket. And once again I will repeat money in a vacuum, it does not happen, they are all in motion and work for the economy, and unlike the USSR, which did not earn anything, but handed out and ate nothing, did not postpone anything for a rainy day. because without this the state simply cannot exist, and the example of the USSR proved it.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 28 October 2021 18: 51
      0
      Quote: Popuas
      I have one question! Why are 'our' chief executives all the time talking about the global economy, when our 'economy' in the world is just a percentage error !?

      Now the percentage will be slightly higher and the chief executives will announce a breakthrough and get up from their knees. How disgusting it all is!
      1. I am not a robot
        I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 00
        +1
        i.e. the economy should not grow and then it will not be disgusting
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 29 October 2021 08: 28
          +1
          Quote: Janerobot
          i.e. the economy should not grow and then it will not be disgusting

          ATTENTION!!! Real economic growth means an increase in the volume of output in units of measurement ... from month to month, from year to year ... with a minimum inflation rate of ≈ 1%. All other indicators about GDP and its variations are a fairy tale for the weak-minded. It would also be significant if GDP growth were actual at fixed prices for goods and services.
          ==========
          Sorry, you are not only not a robot, but a person with a superficial understanding of economic development. Moreover, he does not want to learn anything.
          By the way, speculation came from traders and usurers ...
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 29 October 2021 15: 06
            -2
            ATTENTION!!! Real economic growth means an increase in the volume of output in units of measurement ... from month to month, from year to year ... with a minimum inflation rate of ≈ 1%. All other indicators about GDP and its variations are a fairy tale for the weak-minded. It would also be significant if GDP growth were actual at fixed prices for goods and services. If you want fixed prices for goods and services, go back to the USSR to a planned distribution economy and all the resulting technical backwardness, a lack of choice, or an extremely low choice - barter as well as undershoot sales.
            Real economic growth means an increase in the volume of production in units of measurement ... from month to month, from year to year .. - So that the growth economy needs new sales markets and customer interest in your products, as well as investments and years of expectations for these investments have paid off and only then will they begin to make a profit and thereby create GDP growth - nothing happens on the cheeks.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 28
        -3
        For someone like you, everything is always disgusting - this is already a pathology.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 29 October 2021 15: 11
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          For someone like you, everything is always disgusting - this is already a pathology.

          And people like you, even in the waste of life, smell the scent of roses ...
          fool You are kind of indefatigable. Read Mayakovsky and find out what is good and what is bad.
          What a vile patient, however.
    3. Ros 56
      Ros 56 29 October 2021 09: 48
      0
      A good error, from this error the whole world sometimes shakes. fellow
      And by the way, write correctly, the word PAPUAN written with two A. No, ...... maybe you are a new species, I don't know. lol
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 29 October 2021 09: 57
        0
        Nick was busy ... so O put it ... hi
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 October 2021 18: 37
    0
    Have they ever been low for the population, these prices ??? And this is in our country, in the energy producing and exporting these same resources. I ate my birth, you can beat the piglets on the forehead.
    1. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 01
      -5
      voscheto we have low prices for resources in comparison (if I am wrong, justify in numbers)
      1. Jonny_Su
        Jonny_Su 28 October 2021 19: 21
        +8
        The price for a liter of 95th in the US is slightly less than a dollar, about 65 rubles. With significantly higher incomes of the population. This difference solves.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 28 October 2021 19: 40
          -1
          oops .. and the verse is a lad that is not a robot .. he said the wrong thing - you need to shut up laughing
        2. I am not a robot
          I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 46
          -3
          more for them, it turns out they did not substantiate (we answer the comment above, where the commentator writes that prices for the population were not low) and here incomes,
        3. Glagol1
          Glagol1 28 October 2021 20: 37
          +3
          Exactly. NWP in striped 200 thousand per month, we have 50 thousand. There is no price tag for basic goods. Food and clothing cost nothing, especially for seasonal items.
        4. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 28 October 2021 20: 49
          -1
          Quote: Jonny_Su
          The price for a liter of 95th in the US is slightly less than a dollar, about 65 rubles. With significantly higher incomes of the population. This difference solves.

          A reference to the price in dollars?
          1. Jonny_Su
            Jonny_Su 30 October 2021 02: 51
            0
            Yes, easy, these are the first links on request
            https://vnewyorke.com/tsena-litra-benzina-v-ssha-stoimost-v-rublyah-sejchas/
        5. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 October 2021 20: 59
          0
          Quote: Jonny_Su
          The price for a liter of 95th in the USA is slightly less than a dollar, about 65 rubles. With significantly higher incomes of the population. This difference solves

          Again, a stupid comparison, you cannot compare one thing, you need to compare everything in the complex, income, expenses for food, housing, medicine, etc.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 28 October 2021 19: 38
        +1
        Quote: Janerobot
        voscheto we have low prices for resources in comparison (if I am wrong, justify in numbers)

        This music will be played until 2025, after which Russian prices will be equal to world prices.
  10. hermit
    hermit 28 October 2021 19: 00
    +3
    What will he say if in six months the oil will be at $ 10 per barrel. Or will he simply ask the state for money to compensate for the losses?
  11. Svarog
    Svarog 28 October 2021 19: 06
    -1
    At the same time, sky-high prices for oil and gas are now unprofitable for Russia itself. Indeed, in this case, another effect of dumping into total raw material exports may occur.

    And what, there is a possibility of development of industry or high-tech sectors of the economy, if prices are acceptable? For 30 years, they have not given birth to anything and will not give birth ... the wrong people, the wrong goals ..
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 28 October 2021 19: 19
      +2
      I just want to ... correct smug faces, many, many, behind which there are sins, in the troubles of our state and people, oh, how many.
    2. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 29
      0
      well, we are all here, and you (live in Russia) or this does not apply to you
  12. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 28 October 2021 19: 16
    +3
    Why is he so happy then ?!
    Maybe the people's power will return
    1. Glagol1
      Glagol1 28 October 2021 20: 33
      +1
      The whole ensemble is good there. But this one is especially.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 28 October 2021 19: 16
    -1
    Head of Rosneft: A century of low energy prices is over
    ... Maybe so ... only the stubbornness of many, many, can lead to a reduction in the consumption of some resources, on which, for the time being, at least some kind of balance in our state was kept.
    Don't underestimate the tenacity of the other party, especially when they are determined to do it their own way.
    In short, fig knows how it will be !!!
    There may be a bounce back, and then two jumps forward !!!
    It is necessary to predict any development of the situation and act accordingly. Preparing for another nasty thing from the other side!
    1. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 28 October 2021 19: 30
      -2
      You can't expect the best from them.
  14. Jonny_Su
    Jonny_Su 28 October 2021 19: 17
    +3
    Sechin's forecasts are of little value, he still predicted oil for 110 in 2013. The European market is suffering due to the diligence of the regulators, when the Nord Stream is launched, the situation is fulfilled. If the embargo on Iran is lifted, the gas price will fall.
    1. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 28 October 2021 19: 27
      0
      all forecasts are of little value, not only Sechin
  15. s.adviser
    s.adviser 28 October 2021 19: 20
    -1
    Another great economy. One level with brawn
  16. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 28 October 2021 20: 27
    -2
    What we can expect with a sufficient degree of certainty can be judged not only by the situation over a long period of time, but also by how the prices for goods of the first (and not only the first) necessity in 2020-2021 are growing especially briskly. Moreover, promises are made, which for some reason are more likely to be believed than not, about the upcoming additional increase in prices and tariffs, by the way ...
  17. Glagol1
    Glagol1 28 October 2021 20: 31
    -4
    An amateur broadcasts at an international forum on a question that even energy gurus do not know the answer to. Funny. And it’s sad at the same time, because they laugh not only at him, but also at the whole of Russia, that we have such a head of NK number 1. There are 3 groups of futures questions that cannot be answered:
    1. Commodity prices
    2. Securities quotes
    3. Currency exchange rates
    But this is not for militant amateurs from the ER, they know everything here. Only for the country ain't shit
    do not do.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 31
      -3
      They are laughing only at the moment in Europe and the USA, now it’s no laughing matter when they shit with green energy to the fullest.
  18. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 28 October 2021 20: 39
    0
    Indeed, in this case, another effect of dumping into total raw materials export may occur.

    You might think what the
    the era of low energy prices
    we have moved so far away from an economy based only on the sale of hydrocarbons that it will shock us again to engage in only the sale of it.
  19. Opinion
    Opinion 28 October 2021 20: 43
    -4
    Sechin in the photo certainly looks ridiculous, but he and such other simple executors of the will of the state .. They do not decide anything! The same "oligarchs" can neither sell nor buy anything without the permission of the state.
    They are forced to build bridges, terminals, factories, etc. Otherwise negative
    And they cannot even escape to the west, there they will be immediately "dispossessed" bully
    Remember the construction of the Kechensky bridge, how everything was done clearly and quickly? There, I think that such a condition was set for Friedman, either you build as it should be and in a short time frame, or you lose everything ..
    Friedman, a Jew, understood everything at once, and others too .. So far we have to live like this under the barrage of sanctions and other persecution of Russia!
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 28 October 2021 22: 08
      0
      Rotenberg was responsible for the bridge.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 29 October 2021 00: 33
        -3
        And I must say he did well - but it is a pity that he will no longer deal with bridges since he sold his office to Gazprom.
      2. konstantin68
        konstantin68 29 October 2021 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Rotenberg was responsible for the bridge.

      3. Opinion
        Opinion 30 October 2021 09: 29
        +1
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Rotenberg was responsible for the bridge.

        What's the difference ))))
    2. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 28 October 2021 22: 18
      -1
      And he was Oooh paid very well.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 30 October 2021 17: 41
      0
      Quote: Tribuna
      Friedman was given such a condition, either you build it properly and in a short time, or you lose everything.

      Quote: Sergej1972
      Rotenberg was responsible for the bridge.

      Sorry, I could not resist ... laughing lol laughing
      Something I do not understand you. Turgenev wrote "Mumu", and a monument to Pushkin was erected. the bridge was built by Friedman, and Rotenberg received the Hero of Capitalist Labor?
      laughing
      1. Opinion
        Opinion 30 October 2021 18: 48
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        the bridge was built by Friedman, and Rotenberg received the Hero of Capitalist Labor?

        Yes, let them figure out who built the bridge .. The main thing is to quickly and efficiently and let at least one pile try to sink ... ALL of them a khan, to lose everything Only in this way with them negative
        They are sitting quietly now and know what will happen to them if they try to sell something.
  20. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 October 2021 20: 53
    +2
    A century of low energy prices is over

    what about green energy belay ?!
  21. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 28 October 2021 21: 09
    +1
    Was it cheap, at least? The population in general, the world will go with such prices
  22. valera75
    valera75 28 October 2021 21: 31
    +2
    Indeed, in this case, another effect of dumping into total raw material exports may occur.
    And not Rosneft and the same as they were accused several years ago that they artificially create a shortage of oil (gasoline, diesel) in the Russian market and for this reason prices are creeping up
    And export abroad is wildly rushing because prices have jumped? And now this Sechin Gundite that we can fall into a commodity export. Well, that's what they need. What is the hypocrisy in his expert analysis in quotation marks?
  23. gridasov
    gridasov 28 October 2021 21: 39
    +1
    The question is how soon we will all understand in which direction everything is developing, so that then again we can state the fact of the finished era.
  24. zwlad
    zwlad 28 October 2021 22: 29
    0
    By the beginning of October, they reached almost two thousand dollars per thousand cubic meters,

    They just cut the hamsters on the stock exchange.
  25. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 October 2021 22: 48
    0
    I was always tormented by the question: why if $$$ is printed uncontrollably (as in the last 3 years) and energy prices stand still or are falling?
  26. Borisych
    Borisych 29 October 2021 01: 21
    0
    We feel bad again, their granddaughters-children will now seize them, and they will suck the last stash from the people.
  27. Hindu
    Hindu 29 October 2021 03: 11
    0
    Well, since Sechin said so, "it means they will rob" (Wedding in Malinovka) ...
  28. Hindu
    Hindu 29 October 2021 03: 24
    0
    Quote: Vadim237
    "This hog has not yet paid for the floating dock drowned due to the fault of Rosneft." This hog shipyard Zvezda built on which, if necessary, a new floating dock will be built - although Russia does not have such experience, all these floating docks of the PD series were purchased by the USSR from Sweden.

    The main idea, as always, in the future tense) ... will build)))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 October 2021 15: 09
      0
      Well, if you have the knowledge and experience in the construction of such huge floating docks, then please go into battle - only from the beginning of the customer for this construction, find the capacity where such floating docks can be built.
  29. Hindu
    Hindu 29 October 2021 03: 29
    0
    Quote: Paranoid50
    Quote: Anarchist
    Sechin is a direct expert in the world economy.

    Of course not. And the experts ... They're all buzzing here, yeah. Yes Over there, from top to bottom, "conclusions" and "summary" are already being thrown. fellow But this is so, everyday life, routine. The very same tsimes happens on weekends, when most of them are also on a double glass, although some do not need to drink. wassat

    Well, of course, why should serfs talk about high matters, about politics, economics, their business is to plow without unbending, to be satisfied and treat everything with understanding. Well, except for you - smart ones.
  30. Hindu
    Hindu 29 October 2021 03: 36
    -1
    Quote: hrych
    And what did the regime displease you with? Are you starving? Did the adoption of the 4 Premier League this year please you? Or is it a pity that Sechin is so rich that you cannot eat?

    Yes, no one is starving, calm down. How can you go hungry if you have macaroons? 4 Premier League, again ... How not to get enough ...
  31. evgen1221
    evgen1221 29 October 2021 05: 09
    0
    Well, now let's live said the oligarchs, well, now again, the population said to tighten the belt.
  32. don-1500
    don-1500 29 October 2021 05: 17
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    RSFSR. All the juices were sucked out of it, including the union republics. But the Russian Federation sells wheat and among the leaders. RF s

    Two mutually exclusive offers. You yourself say that 200 million Uzbek chicks had to be fed white bread (and it is made only from wheat, but it does not grow with them), and livestock farming was also destroyed, which took millions of hectares for fodder crop rotation (all there is silage, alfalfa, etc.) ). So aasha's joy for the grain oligarchs is tears for the killed animal husbandry as well. We sell wheat, but we import pork from Brazil, beef from Argentina, and palm oil, how can we do without it. And to grow and sell grain is the simplest thing, you don't need a lot of mind, it's even easier than oil. So you better rejoice for Sechin and Miller, they are the locomotive of our economy, but about grain export ... it's just an "agidka" that you "picked up without thinking" somewhere.
  33. Martian
    Martian 29 October 2021 08: 19
    +3
    What a fat nasty face ... 5 million a day to receive only an official salary and sell more than 50% of Rosneft to various BPs and other crooks from behind the hill, he is not capable of anything else ... A real Putin ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 October 2021 15: 12
      0
      If Sechin is only a top manager assigned to run a state-owned company, he has no right to sell anything, he is not the owner of Rosneft, and the state gives him a command to do this.
  34. Slon1978
    Slon1978 30 October 2021 13: 51
    0
    Sechin, as he personally noted many times, is a very poor forecaster. In reality, everything happens exactly the opposite. I think he himself should have noticed this and, as a sane person, rarely open his mouth with all sorts of predictions. But apparently not in the horse feed.