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The Bundeswehr is unhappy with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army

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Now the leadership of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, together with the free democrats and "greens" are working to create a ruling coalition in the Bundestag (German parliament). Despite many differences in the positions of these political movements, they came to a common opinion that the German Armed Forces needed to be reduced.


The newspaper Die Welt writes about this.

The publication notes that the Bundeswehr is unhappy with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army. They worry that after the reduction, the German Armed Forces will not be able to ensure either the defense of their country, or effective participation in the international missions of the North Atlantic Alliance.

According to the German press, German parliamentarians are not satisfied with the constant growth of defense spending in Germany. They think it's time to stop him. Their position does not correspond to the plans of the German Ministry of Defense, headed by Ms. Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, which plans to increase the number of Bundeswehr by 20 thousand people in the next decade, that is, from 183 to 203 thousand troops.

On the other hand, German journalists do not take into account that Germany is a member of NATO, an organization where the United States plays a decisive role. Therefore, the defense potential of Germany depends more on the American military contingent located in this country than on the increase or decrease in the number of the Bundeswehr.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 28 October 2021 12: 36
    +8
    The Bundeswehr is unhappy with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army
    It would be surprising if such plans were met there with joy.
    1. Civil
      Civil 28 October 2021 12: 46
      +1
      Yes ... the German military is decrepit.
      in both Germany (FRG and GDR) under arms were 600 thousand Germans, now - 177 thousand. Of these, 10 are undergoing retraining, another 25 are undergoing primary training. This means that the actual size of the army is no more than 135 thousand.

      Two times less than Paulus had at Stalingrad.
      How are we going to scare dear Russians now? The Wehrmacht and the SS were somehow blown away. How to explain economic failures.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 28 October 2021 12: 53
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        Their position does not correspond to the plans of the German Ministry of Defense, headed by Ms. Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, which plans to increase the number of Bundeswehr by 20 thousand people in the next decade, that is, from 183 to 203 thousand troops.

        Their position does not correspond to the plans of the German Ministry of Defense, headed by Ms. Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, which plans to increase the number of Bundeswehr by 20 thousand people in the next decade, that is, from 183 to 203 thousand troops.

        As if with this brainless lady for a decade, Germany has only 20 thousand people left fool
        1. Civil
          Civil 28 October 2021 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: Terenin
          As if with this brainless lady for a decade, Germany has only 20 thousand people left

          This is a uniform disgrace - living with such amusing shelves is so indecently rich.
        2. den3080
          den3080 28 October 2021 13: 35
          +1
          Annegret is asking for a leadership position in NATO.
          No wonder he grinds his tongue.
          It is unlikely that they will put it instead of Soltenberg, otherwise it will begin ... the Fourth Reich and all that, but in suede - quite, Kersti Kaljulaid.
          For a good "salary" and a serene life until retirement.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 28 October 2021 18: 17
            0
            Interestingly, when did the military rejoice in the reduction of the army? laughing
      2. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 28 October 2021 12: 55
        0
        as always .. minke whales .. and they are theirs - by us .. and the capitalists themselves on all this - to earn .. everything is as always ..
        1. Civil
          Civil 28 October 2021 12: 56
          0
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          as always .. minke whales .. and they are their own - by us .. and the capitalists themselves on this all - to earn money ..

          Are you sure you haven't divulged a military secret right now?
      3. svp67
        svp67 28 October 2021 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        Yes ... the German military is decrepit.

        Yes, okay ... I remember after the First World War, they generally reduced the army at times. But the remnants were prepared in such a way that as soon as they increased their numbers, they got a completely combat-ready army.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 October 2021 13: 32
          0
          Quote: svp67
          then they got a completely combat-ready army

          And what is more, there is still no such thing in Europe and will not be.
          1. svp67
            svp67 28 October 2021 14: 10
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            And what is more, there is still no such thing in Europe and will not be.

            No, it’s yes, but it won’t be ... I wish it wouldn’t be, very much ... She’s tired, worse than a steamy turnip, every two centuries they come to us ...
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 28 October 2021 14: 14
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              Quote: svp67
              She's tired, worse than a steamy turnip, every two centuries they come to us ...

              Disappeared true Prussians, and navryatli will appear, such an army.
              1. svp67
                svp67 28 October 2021 14: 15
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Disappeared true Prussians, and navryatli will appear, such an army.

                And where did they disappear to? Maybe just, for the time being, they simply "did not show"?
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 28 October 2021 14: 19
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                  Quote: svp67
                  And where did they disappear to?

                  Prussia disappeared, the people fled all over Germany, the Prussian military school, the former basis of the army, disappeared. Probably nothing will work out now.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 28 October 2021 14: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Prussia disappeared, people scattered all over Germany

                    That is, people stayed ...
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    the Prussian military school, the former base of the army, disappeared.

                    It became the basis of the German military school, and it certainly did not go anywhere ... Moreover, it became the basis of the military school of the NATO countries.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 28 October 2021 14: 36
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                      Quote: svp67
                      Moreover, it became the basis of the military school of the NATO countries.

                      Thank you, I didn’t.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 28 October 2021 14: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Thank you, I didn’t.

                        Unfortunately, this is true. A lot of the experience of the Wehrmacht, the armies of the NATO countries took
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 28 October 2021 12: 47
    +1
    Whatever the child doesn’t amuse himself, as long as it doesn’t hang. The main thing is that the Wehrmacht would not be renamed.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 October 2021 12: 50
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      Whatever the child doesn’t amuse himself, as long as it doesn’t hang. The main thing is that the Wehrmacht would not be renamed.

      The ACC had somehow forgotten that she was already a lame duck. And the military can be understood - I really want money. And the hope for the United States is bad.
  3. APASUS
    APASUS 28 October 2021 12: 48
    -1
    The Bundeswehr will be reduced, and the freed up money will go to the mercy of the Pentagon and nothing else .................
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2021 13: 30
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      The Bundeswehr will be reduced, and the freed up money will go to the mercy of the Pentagon and nothing else

      There is nothing to feed the migrants.
  4. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 28 October 2021 12: 52
    0
    ***
    Attention!
    Bundover want to overwhip ...
    ***
  5. dzvero
    dzvero 28 October 2021 12: 59
    +1
    Some are for an increase, others for a reduction ... they will agree that the numbers will not be touched, but will be put on a starvation ration so that people themselves leave.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 October 2021 13: 17
    +1
    in the Bundeswehr are unhappy with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army
    Unsurprisingly, the military is not happy. But the Minister of Defense is probably pleased, who decided that American nuclear weapons could be used against Russia, which means that a large army is useless.
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 October 2021 13: 27
    0
    According to the German press, German parliamentarians are not satisfied with the constant growth of defense spending in Germany.

    The migrants must be fed, so the army must be cut back.
  8. bar
    bar 28 October 2021 13: 40
    +1
    Who will be happy with their own reduction
  9. zwlad
    zwlad 28 October 2021 13: 41
    -1
    Therefore, the defense potential of Germany depends more on the American military contingent located in this country than on the increase or decrease in the number of the Bundeswehr.

    There are scum in any fatherland, the German is no exception.
    How 25 thousand Yankees will be able to ensure the safety of Germany. As in Afghanistan? At the first nix they will rush to the exit.
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 28 October 2021 14: 06
      +1
      Where does the nix come from in Germany? Whom should they be afraid of? Russia is the first not to twitch, they themselves have already fought for three hundred years ahead
      1. Shket53
        Shket53 29 October 2021 03: 27
        0
        Hello ... look at the root (Kozma Prutkov) the Bundeswehr will reduce ... but according to official data, there are already more than 1,5 million migrants. And if we assume that the Yankees want to slightly restrain the FRG for the SP-2, and not only for him, and for all sorts of free-thinking statements by German politicians ... and why should the Yankees not use these migrants and arrange a small whirlwind ... yes, there is also Bavaria raising its voice to leave the FRG ... thereby weaken Germany, or better in general take it out of the game so that they sit below the plinth and do not blather ... by the way, half of the gold reserves of the FRG are still in the STATES ... it would be better to grab it on the sly ... so who knows how it is there and why it is made Such are the statements (and the most interesting thing is being pushed by the "Greens")
        1. Tuzik
          Tuzik 20 November 2021 12: 45
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          Plus !, but the Germans are not that nation to fool them. That such a word seemed appropriate to me
  10. zwlad
    zwlad 28 October 2021 13: 50
    -1
    that the Bundeswehr is unhappy with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army.

    Maybe at least these discontent will result in something more than in France.
  11. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 28 October 2021 13: 54
    0
    The publication notes that the Bundeswehr is dissatisfied with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army.

    Well, we are waiting for reports on the disclosure of an anti-government conspiracy in the Bundeswehr. smile
  12. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 28 October 2021 13: 58
    +1
    What can I say, good fellows legislators in Germany, they see that Russia is a fake threat, so you shouldn't spend government money and have less trouble with the alliance.
    Keep it up.
    We are for world peace!
  13. cniza
    cniza 28 October 2021 14: 04
    +2
    Despite many differences in the positions of these political movements, they came to a common opinion that the German Armed Forces needed to be reduced.


    All the same, the United States breaks the Germans ...
  14. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 28 October 2021 14: 06
    +1
    Here I read the comments and am amazed that most of the commentators from Ukraine are on the hike, worried that they want to reduce the army in Deutschland, who will fight in its place with Russia, they will say that let the pan-heads fight themselves, because they have stainless steel head.

    Reduced and well, it means they understand that the threat from Russia is fake and there is no need to spend state money.
    Well done!
    We are for world peace!
  15. blackberry
    blackberry 28 October 2021 14: 17
    +21
    The Bundeswehr is unhappy with the plans of German legislators to reduce the army

    Why do they need a large army? Again, "drag nach osten" gathered?
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  17. wandlitz
    wandlitz 28 October 2021 15: 19
    0
    Why does an occupied country need its own army?
  18. expert
    expert 28 October 2021 21: 00
    0
    Well, not everything is as straightforward as the author presents, quoting die Welt.
    Firstly, the original contains the German word "offenbar", which means "presumably" intended to be shortened.
    Secondly, according to Merkur.de, the same coalition intends to strengthen the Bundeswehr with weapons, which is now in the process of modernization and billions of euros will be invested in this process in the coming years.
    So, the German army, despite the efforts of Ursula von der Leyen and Aneegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, will be qualitatively strengthened.
    The enemy does not sleep!