The President of Russia offered the world a generalized idea for overcoming the crisis

Under the slogans of progress and equality, Western civilization is slipping not just in violation of human rights and freedoms, but already to the most real crimes against humanity. Russian President Vladimir Putin made such a message at the international Valdai Forum. According to the President of the country, in the era of global transformation, the values ​​that have been formed over long periods of time cannot be swept aside. Putin noted that the crisis phenomena the world is facing today will help overcome healthy conservatism. A sort of generalized idea of ​​overcoming the crisis for the modern world.

The conservatism preached by Vladimir Putin, to put it mildly, is not to the liking of those political and economic forces that prioritize the principles of rapid development. The problem is that sometimes rapid development ultimately leads to a total crisis, in which all the fruits of this development turn to dust.

The idea of ​​Western ultraliberals to sweep aside everything old (including traditions and values) for the sake of exceptional “novelty” (even if this novelty leads to fatal consequences) today leads to surprisingly absurd results. The United States suddenly began to resemble the late Soviet Union with a "hesitant party line", when in an attempt to save itself in the end everything is done against it.

How prepared is Russia itself for modern challenges? To what extent is our country ready to offer the world a viable development model? And to what extent can the example of Russia be attractive to the modern world in general? Questions, questions ...

Mikhail Leontyev discusses the message of Vladimir Putin in the program "However":

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[s.adviser]

MOUNT SHOW
54 minutes ago
Is he also a prophet?)))

Peskov spoke about Putin's prophetic statements. According to him, Putin has repeatedly practiced predicting the future.

“The President has repeatedly made such prophetic statements, he did not frighten anyone, be it in the field of disarmament, security, climate change. The president sometimes describes prospects very well. Maybe they don't listen to him, but then they realize that this is how it happens, "Putin's press secretary said on the air of the Russia-1 TV channel.

[The leader of the Redskins]

There is such an actor's bike:
A new, young director came to one of the Soviet theaters. He gathered a troupe and spoke for a long time about his vision of the new repertoire and the game in general. When I finished, I expected to hear a bravura applause, and instead, in the deathly silence from the back rows, a distinct voice of T. Peltzer sounded:
- Well, why, as soon as a person does not know how to do anything, he immediately climbs into directors? ...

This is me to the fact that our the prophet to restore order in your kingdom and overcome crises, and not advise others!

[New Year day]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

to our prophet in his kingdom to establish order and overcome crises, and not to advise others!

[Barberry25]

waiting for you .. what to do if we have all smart managers sitting on topvar ..

[Nikolay1987]

That is why he is trying to encourage everyone to reincarnate capitalism, but otherwise everything suits him: the tsar, the boyars, the slaves.

[Aleks2048]

This I mean that our prophet in his kingdom would restore order and overcome crises, and not advise others!

How to look ... He put things in order in his kingdom ... and the fact that you don't like him is your problem. Take a look at what he got and what he came to ... Another thing is that everything has its time and it is time for him to rest ... The construction site is ready and everything has been cleared, the foremen are on the spot and are waiting for instructions, the equipment has been refueled and the building materials have been checked ... an architect is needed. But with this the trouble! There is no inspirer ... There is no person with an idea that everyone would support ... or at least not oppose. The problem is in society - the upper classes only want money, while the lower classes want the same as those of the upper classes, and at the same time neither one nor the other even wants to move a finger.

[Andrey Moskvin]

To Alex.
Right. Everything according to Ranevskaya. People are divided into two categories - those who feel good, and those who feel bad about it.

[Gardamir]

the prophet in his kingdom would restore order and overcome crises

what has he got to do with it? This is all Soviet power. Hear a performance at Sochi's Valdai.

[Tank jacket]

Readers of the American website Breitbart supported the statement of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, who called gender reassignment in children a crime against humanity.

"This is why the West hates Russia and China - they do not accept perverts," one of them noted.

"At least someone spoke in an adult way. Finally," wrote another.
"Is there a chance for asylum?" - asked a web user.

"Is it possible to elect him to the leader of our Conservative Party before it finally breaks down?" - the reader wondered.

"I've been living in Russia for 30 years, and here I have more freedom than I would have in the West. Western media (Putin - Ed.) Simply demonize him, because he does not kneel before the globalists and does not do what he they say ", - concluded in the comments.

"The men remained only in Eastern Europe and Russia. I saw their military advertisements, Russian. This is not a useless American army, which is harnessed to LGBT people," the user was indignant.

Putin spoke about transgender people during the plenary session of the Valdai Discussion Club. The President called the monstrous situation when children are taught that a boy can easily become a girl and vice versa, and compared it to crimes against humanity. According to the Russian leader, they are being forced to make a decision that could break their lives. (WITH)

[Maks1995]

And, an anonymous article, Leontyev, that 20 years predicts the fall of the dollar, Valdai.

Unfulfilled, compromised ORDERS have now been replaced by PROMOTIONS?

[Far B]

It's just that someone has already completely beaten off the connection with reality. And now I'm not talking about Leontyev, but about the one who calls on the decaying West to take the "Russian model" as an example.

The problem is that sometimes rapid development ultimately leads to a total crisis.

Considering that the "total crisis of the West" against the background of our 20-year-old getting up from our knees looks quite prosperous, the above quote looks somehow strained, like an owl on a globe. Not, sometimes, of course, development leads to a crisis. And sometimes it doesn't. And sometimes a crisis comes without any development. Sometimes it doesn't come ... In short, there are a lot of options, but, as for me, the rapid development still looks more attractive.

[210ox]

I wonder if this speech is for whom? For yourself? Earlier they listened, even sometimes looked into their mouths. In Munich, for example. And now .. Well he said and said.

[t-12]

to sweep aside everything old (including traditions and values) for the sake of exceptional "novelty"

Dialectics. The new "world mankind" with a "world government" sweeps aside state sovereignty, traditional values, etc. What Putin calls a "crisis" is not a crisis, but a world revolution (slow, stretched out over decades).

[citizen]

Yes, the old man is giving up. How is it in the "heart of a dog"?

With a completely unbearable swagger, give some advice on a cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity about how to divide everything ...

[sergo1914]

I remember that at the current age of GDP, his political father, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, said a wonderful phrase - "I'm tired, I'm leaving." What to expect from his successor?

[Egoza]

Quote: sergo1914

I remember that at the current age of GDP, his political father, Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, said a wonderful phrase - "I'm tired, I'm leaving." What to expect from his successor?

You will not wait! By the way, earlier they laughed that Khrushchev ran with a cot under the Mausoleum. Now how? What if the successor wants to replace one Vladimir for another?

[New Year day]

Quote: sergo1914

What to expect from his successor?

- "Will not wait"

[Tank jacket]

The majority of the audience of echo of Moscow is ready to indulge in the tail, kiss the feet of blacks and allow women with reduced social responsibility to use the money of their rich boyfriends, so that later they can accuse them of harassment - just to be against Putin.
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Wright o rong, its may country (c)

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Tank jacket

The majority of the audience of echo of Moscow is ready to indulge in the tail, kiss the feet of blacks and allow women with reduced social responsibility to use the money of their rich boyfriends, so that later they can accuse them of harassment - just to be against Putin.

And we are also ready to welcome the rule of law, social justice, the sovereignty of the individual, the secularity of society and many other things that they completely forgot to tell the Vanka through the zombie box.

[Tank jacket]

Quote: Aleksandre

Quote: Tank jacket

The majority of the audience of echo of Moscow is ready to indulge in the tail, kiss the feet of blacks and allow women with reduced social responsibility to use the money of their rich boyfriends, so that later they can accuse them of harassment - just to be against Putin.

And we are also ready to welcome the rule of law, social justice, the sovereignty of the individual, the secularity of society and many other things that they completely forgot to tell the Vanka through the zombie box.

And in what country in the world is such a fairy tale? Where is the rule of law? Where is the sovereignty of the individual? Compare with the Russian Federation and you will see that we have more of this ... Russia is the freest country.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: Tank jacket

And in what country in the world is such a fairy tale? Where is the rule of law? Where is the sovereignty of the individual? Compare with the Russian Federation and you will see that we have more of this ... Russia is the freest country.

Travel already around the world, see with your own eyes. And not so that with his wife and spinogryzami to the beach, get drunk and back, but walk around, look, talk. Although ... I regularly meet humanoids who, standing next to me and seeing the same thing as me, ask a question like:
- "Tell me, is this so and so?"
- "Yes, e ... Why don't you believe your eyes, but trust my opinion? You de'bil?"
At times I began to hate people very much.

[Tank jacket]

I saw it and traveled not with children, but out of service ...

[AML]

Oh well. I would like to see how you tell the police about your rights in Holland or Germany. You know, it is not very convenient with its muzzle in the asphalt.

To begin to understand the situation in the country, you need to live at least 2 months. And from the bus window it is beautiful everywhere.

[ViacheslavS]

But on the other hand, are there regional traffic cops with golden toilets in Holland or Germany? And by the way, you can tell the police in Germany about your rights, the main thing is to know them.

[Tank jacket]

Hunter Biden and Burisma - Is This The Golden Toilet?
Offshore Zelenskiy?
Tell Julian Assange and Comrade Snowden about freedom of speech and SIM cards. After the September 11 operation, there is no freedom of speech in the mattress, and even before in reality.
The Cold War never ended.

[Tank jacket]

Also, tell Trump and Trump's supporters, who are in the majority, about Twitter censorship on Facebook and YouTube.

[ViacheslavS]

Yes, such a regrettable fact, although everything that you described is private companies (and by the way, the majority was never for Trump, that in those elections where Trump won, which was the last one) and now Facebook is under serious pressure, if you follow the topic , it is not unlikely that Facebook will be split into several companies.

[Terran ghost]

Also, tell Trump about Twitter censorship on Facebook and YouTube.

Do you understand that Facebook and Twitter are PRIVATE companies. And that they have the right to decide to whom they want to provide their services and to whom they do not. And that no one and nothing prevented Trump from creating his own social network or just a news site and publishing there. Which, by the way, he did almost immediately.

[citizen]

Quote: Tank jacket

The Cold War never ended.

Are you awake? The Cold War was lost 30 years ago.

[ViacheslavS]

And that's all you could find, even Hunter Biden, who is a beggar compared to the regional head of the traffic police.

[AML]

Rare exceptions aside, no. I won't even argue here. I will not write for Germany, because I know superficially, but I will write about Holland.
All funds must be circulated through your bank account. When money is dripping on him, then the automatic payment for communal apartments, kindergartens, schools and taxes. What remains is yours. Show off.
What will happen if you are caught in tax evasion I think there is no need to explain. Parents are not allowed to give gifts to children and help financially. If you want to help the children financially, give them a loan at interest. The only tax-free aid is a gift from a home for the age of majority. Everything.
Even for some gifts on the DR, you have to write to the tax office, and both parties.
There is a big plus for the poor. There will always be food and lodging. This will be provided by the state. But ... When you wake up and start making money, the state will deduct from your salary all the funds invested in you.

The tax is progressive. And above a certain amount, there is simply no point in earning.

Europeans behave well not because they are cultured, but because they are intimidated. If it becomes possible to break the law and not be caught, do not hesitate - they will break

[AML]

Oh, well, about the refugees. You don't have to think that you will come to Holland, complain about the Russian government, get refugee status and everything will turn out to be a health problem for you. They will be interned in the camp, will be fed and given an allowance. But that's all for this. You have no right to work. The average time spent in the camp is 8 years. After that, you may be given citizenship. Why is it possible, because there are cases when people are in camps for 20 years.

If you are not a black transgender, then I do not humanly recommend applying for a refugee.

[ViacheslavS]

Horror, it is not clear only why the Russian elite is preparing for itself spare airfields in these Europe, Italy, Holland, Austria, Switzerland, etc., and not in any Venezuela or Belarus.
Something journalists such as Solovyov, Kiselev, buy themselves real estate in these very Italy / Holland, Brilev, that is not in a hurry to renounce British citizenship.
But what you are describing is that there is a normal civil society, when before the law, almost everyone is equal.

[Terran ghost]

Parents are not allowed to give gifts to children and help financially. If you want to help the children financially, give them a loan at interest.

And you can use proofs for this. Yes - a direct reference to the relevant Dutch laws is required as proof.

The tax is progressive. And above a certain amount, there is simply no point in earning.

AND? The maximum tax rate in the Netherlands is 49,5 percent.
But back to our native birches. Bid. personal income tax in Russia - 13 percent. But that's just what we see. And we do not see everything. There is also a part that is formally "paid by the employer", that is, in fact, the payment comes from the wage fund, but the employee does not see it. 5,1 percent - a contribution to the MHIF, 2,9 percent - a contribution to the FSS, 22 percent - a contribution to the Pension Fund. In total, personal income tax in the amount of 40 rubles is collected from the salary for the payment of 000 rubles. But the employer additionally pays another 5 rubles in contributions from the wage fund. In total, the real salary is not 200 rubles, but 12 rubles. Of which 000 rubles, or 40 percent, is the actual amount of taxes.

[WIKI]

Quote: AML

Oh well. I would like to see how you tell the police about your rights in Holland or Germany.

For a slap in the face of the President of France, a 28-year-old man received four months of real imprisonment and two years of probation.
"The Leipzig District Court on Wednesday, January 8, sentenced a resident of the city to a six-month suspended sentence and 60 hours of community service for assaulting a law enforcement officer. The trial was held under an accelerated procedure. The accused pleaded guilty and made a public apology. The young man was detained with New Year's Eve. Then he tripped the policeman who had fled during the special operation. The policeman fell and injured his ankle. "
"Ivan Podkopaev, who sprayed pepper gas in the direction of the police and Rosguards, was sentenced to 3 years in prison; Daniil Beglets, who grabbed a Russian Guard by the hand, was sentenced to 2 years in prison; Kirill Zhukov was sent to a colony for 3 years for what, according to the investigation, hit the helmet of the Russian Guard; Yevgeny Kovalenko received 3,5 years in prison after, according to the investigation, he pushed police officer Yevgeny Tereshchenko, and then threw a trash can at the Russian Guard "

[Tank jacket]

For a visit to Congress, Trump supporters received 10 years, and one veteran woman was killed. Also see how many people have been beaten by the police at antiquated rallies in the last 2 years.

[WIKI]

Well, how many crippled?
"In France, the first convictions have been passed on police officers for excessive use of force during the crackdown on yellow vests. On Thursday, December 19, a court in Paris sentenced two police officers to suspended sentences. One of them slapped a protester at a May 1 rally. another threw a cobblestone in the direction of the protesters. The first received a four-month suspended sentence, the second - two months suspended charged with assaulting two protesters during a 13 rally. If convicted, could be sentenced to a maximum of seven years in prison and a € 2018 fine. "
If they are judged there for such trifles, then it will cost them dearly to cripple a person. And all why? Because the law is not a tongue. And people have the opportunity to stand up for themselves using various methods permitted by law.

[ViacheslavS]

For example, in many countries SIM cards are sold simply in the metro, while in Russia you need to show your passport and conclude an agreement.
But on the whole, Russia is a fairly free country, if it does not "conflict" with the central government, this is a fundamental difference from, for example, the same Germany or even the United States.

[Lunic]

We have the USA, which is also a very free country, if you do not conflict with the police. By the way, I can freely buy a SIM card in a store, but activate it only by documents.

[ViacheslavS]

We have the USA, which is also a very free country, if you do not conflict with the police.

You can conflict with the US police if you know exactly your rights. And you can compare that in the end I get victims of police brutality in the United States and in Russia. Moreover, let me remind you that in the United States, citizens are allowed to buy a wide range of firearms, despite the fact that in Russia they want to restrict hunting weapons very much.

[Tank jacket]

"-Izya, do you know that Moishe is Tinto Brass?
-Yah? What has borrowed money and is not giving it back?
-No ... In the good sense of the word. "

[Igoresha]

echo of moscow

Well, with BLM in the Russian Federation, complete order is even worse

[ViacheslavS]

Right now, Putin has a chance to demonstrate how it should be, then a scandal slowly flares up that torture was organized in the FSIN systems, and this time there is video evidence, according to these human rights activists, more than 40 GB of archive was taken out by a former prisoner who administered the internal IT systems of the regional FSIN. Here a gigantic and open investigation clearly suggests itself, possibly with a complete reorganization of the entire FSIN, a revision of the structure of colonies, prisons, etc., since now it looks terrible for the country.
And crimes against humanity are taking place right in Putin's own country, and first of all you need to deal with them, and then teach the West how to live.

[Aleks2048]

And crimes against humanity are taking place right in Putin's own country, and first of all you need to deal with them, and then teach the West how to live.

Or maybe there are problems besides the convicts who are not such a large percentage? Are you suggesting this as a priority task well thought?

[ViacheslavS]

And how this problem differs from others, the FSIN system has long been rotten and incredibly corrupt, and its work directly affects our entire society, we can ignore it, but all these criminal concepts, AUE, etc., play a big role in our everyday life and The worst thing is that children / schoolchildren who begin to “live by concepts” are the first to become infected with this.

And if before there was no evidence, now a huge portion of the video material has been posted on the network.

[Aleks2048]

Wait .... No need to lump everything together ... Talk about global problems ... They are translating about the Federal Penitentiary Service ... How many people have been sitting in the Russian Federation ... In fact, there is no need to pour nonsense about a colony - a settlement ... Voice them articles and for what happened ... It is possible without details, who needs a link to the verdict will be found. So is the problem of consistency that big? Or is there more important? And if the conversation about aye, then everything is simple, I decided and went out to them and to their beholder, everyone was shocked, and on this the claims and conversations about my children ended. Moreover, children who were completely alien to me turned to my stepson and went and decided and everything remained not in the red. And do not be afraid of this, you just need to be normal, you can decide for yourself what is good and what is bad and you need to tell this to the children with their watching separately ...

[Okolotochny]

According to human rights activists - a very "reliable source", did the former prisoner administer the network of the regional administration of the Federal Penitentiary Service? Are you out of your mind when you write this? You are smart? Most likely no.

[ViacheslavS]

You know, I would really like it all to be an invention of human rights defenders, because I am very unhappy to think that in Russia, with the permission / connivance of the administration, there were massive rapes with a mop / handle, all this was filmed on camera, stored and then used for the purpose of blackmail ... And already now, if I am not mistaken, eight criminal cases have been opened, the head of the Saratov tuberculosis hospital, the regional leadership of the Federal Penitentiary Service, have been removed, but you continue to live in the world of pink ponies.
And as for the administration of the IT system to prisoners, this is our good corruption, there were probably a couple of employees on the staff, but they put a prisoner to work for free. You are not surprised when, in a military unit, they sit down at a computer to print orders, etc., a more or less clever conscript in computers, and at the same time he has access to all the resources of the local network.

[Okolotochny]

And as for the administration of the IT system to the prisoners, this is our good corruption, there were probably a couple of employees on the staff, but they put a prisoner to work for free.

A reference to this "fact" please?
And yet, in the regional FSIN there is no such system, from the word AT ALL. There is one closed AKUS, it seems, information is transmitted there under the chipboard stamp. And in the colonies it is not "administered". Also, some of the computer equipment undergoes periodic checks and has the nameplates of the information protection units of the FSB of Russia. Does this mean anything to you? All this equipment is strictly registered. And the "former prisoner" will not be allowed to see a cannon shot at her. Enough to post "jaundice".

[ViacheslavS]

And the "former prisoner" will not be allowed to see her with a cannon shot. Enough to post "jaundice".

And tell me, could it be that the prisoners in the colony would have access to cell phones? That they could make calls while on the territory of the colony?

[Okolotochny]

And already now, if I am not mistaken, eight criminal cases have been opened, the head of the Saratov tuberculosis hospital has been removed,

This suggests that such an "installation" is in the entire system in Russia? So the cases were opened after all? Vaughn how. And the head of the department was removed? Vaughn how. There are plenty of trash everywhere. In the United States, they just get knocked out when checking documents. Shall we talk about the whole system?

[ViacheslavS]

Well, in the end it turns out that the videos from the service DVRs were somehow taken out of the colonies, by as much as 40GB. And by the way, this former prisoner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs has already been put on the wanted list.

[Serg65]

Quote: Okolotochny

did the former prisoner administer the network of the regional administration of the Federal Penitentiary Service?

He most likely confused Russia with Kyrgyzstan ...

[Okolotochny]

This commentator confused - the yellow press. And the plusses of it are not a smart post without any brains at all.

[Serg65]

Quote: Okolotochny

confused - yellow press

This month I have already read twice about the coup in Russia ...

[Iskazi]

Yes, no one except Pu ..., In general, and looking philosophically .... ..., the prophet ..., but about the fatherland - it is very suspicious, whether it is his fatherland and whether he is his own. Perhaps in the declining years the Russian Federation will become the homeland of Puthe ..., because Juche has already been patented by North Korea ...,

[sgapich]

Only now I have returned from the birthday of a comrade. What can I say, it has become much more convenient to ride. There - by tram, plus fifty meters and half an hour by train. Well, two kilometers on foot (but what are the stars on top). It turns out a very interesting sample locally. Age of people 3-93, (plus 8 dogs, 2 cats and 1 cat). Almost everyone (except those who were older) were vaccinated. There were 52 people in total.

Well, in political terms, everyone absolutely hates all the Grudinins and Platoshkins.

[Million]

He cannot offer anything to the country, but here he swung at the WORLD.

[nickolai.maliugin]

Does moderate conservatism apply to the energy sector in Russia? Or is it an internal political structure? Is I. Ilyin's book a guide to action? Or is it just a book for general knowledge? Questions, questions.

[demo]

How prepared is Russia itself for modern challenges? To what extent is our country ready to offer the world a viable development model?
As the last 20 years have shown, Russia is not ready for any challenges, but it was not going to prepare for anything either.
The country, headlong, dragged "into the world legal order", for the sake of Western values ​​refuses to conduct its own economic and social policy, favoring the world behind the scenes of the life and well-being of its own citizens will never be regarded by anyone as a generator of positive ideas. And even more so, no one will perceive her as a possible ideologue of sustainable development.
There was no need to call for a riot in 2007 in Munich.
If Putin's memory is short, then those who sat there remember everything.
It is possible for Russians to mumble the same thing in their annual message for 20 years in a row. And the people listen and listen to everything.
In the west, such pretzels fly out of the clip the next day.

Is there any point in offering the world community any ideas if your own national idea has not yet been formed?
It would be better if Putin was silent and would not crawl out into the foreground with all sorts of nonsense.

[AML]

Quote: ViacheslavS

Horror, it is not clear only why the Russian elite is preparing for itself alternate airfields in these Europe, Italy, Holland,

Because they think in other categories. Well, you need to understand that real estate real estate strife. In Holland and Germany you can buy an apartment for yourself, or even a house for 80 thousand euros. In Cyprus, for this money, you will receive a killed kopeck piece in some dysfunctional area.

And those who turn on the head do it differently. I bought a house in Italy for 1 euro, invested in the renovation of 30-50 thousand and here's a villa in Italy. Sane? Quite. Well, so that you understand villas are called ordinary houses. So if you are told that someone has a villa in Italy, it may well turn out that your country house is much cooler.

It's the same in Cyprus. You buy a house in Chigiri for 20-30 thousand, equate it with the ground and for another 30 thousand you rebuild yourself a one-story house.
By the standards of Cyprus, chigiri is 20-30 km from the city. By car, this distance is covered in 10-15 minutes.


Is there something fantastic in the announced amounts?

[ViacheslavS]

at. I bought a house in Italy for 1 euro, invested in the renovation of 30-50 thousand and here's a villa in Italy. Sane? Quite. Well, so that you understand villas are called ordinary houses. So if you are told that someone has a villa in Italy, it may well turn out that your country house is much cooler.

Only this program is for people with EU citizenship or permanent residence and with the condition of compulsory residence in the purchased house for 1 euro.

Is there something fantastic in the announced amounts?
In general, I did not say anything about the amount, but only about the fact that the elite of Russia sees itself in the West and attaches its children there.

[AML]

There are no condition documents. The fact that you will not be given citizenship is very likely. Otherwise, there are no restrictions.

How do you know how the elite thinks?
Maybe they think that vacationing in Russia is too expensive? I went to St. Petersburg, Rubinstein's apartment, one and a half euros for a month. In Prague he rented a three-room hut for 300 on Kohinor. In Thailand, in the south of Phuket, a house of 300-500 dollars per month. I am already silent about Turkey. About rest in Sochi - well, not only everything.

It makes no sense to compare hotels with a price of 100 euros per day. Because the money is one, the service is completely different.

To have real estate abroad and to rest there is stupidly cheaper. And if you also build it in your absence, then only pluses.

In the case of Russians, if they don't weld 300%, then this is at a loss. An Englishman of 30% quietly pees in his pants with joy. And Putin is out of business here, it's just common greed. Suck up, hide taxes and then scold the government and Putin that a small social network and how bad it is in prison.


And especially my IMHO that it is necessary to punish not those who take bribes, but those who give. And so punish, so that the smoke poured from the ears.

[ViacheslavS]

There are no condition documents. The fact that you will not be given citizenship is very likely. Otherwise, there are no restrictions.

Specifically, I found out about the purchase of such a house for allegedly 1 euro back in the Dokovid times in one of the communes in Sicily, first of all they asked for a minimum of permanent residence in one of the EU countries (but most likely it would be possible to solve this issue simply by having a residence permit), the second 1 Euro, this is a big name, it was immediately said that the repair must be at least 20 thousand euros and agreed with the local authorities, it is necessary to pay for the services of a notary and also to live in this house for at least 100 days a year.
And the most important thing is that the proposed houses are not the level of elites, which can easily have several apartments in Prague (like one governor), these houses for "1 euro" are located in very remote places with not the most developed infrastructure.

How do you know how the elite thinks?

Because they had experience of communicating with the elite at the regional level and they regard the West as a guarantee of their peaceful retirement, a guarantee of their "honestly" earned money, therefore they send their children to study in the West, help (primarily financially) children to gain a foothold in the EU or the USA. That is, they do not feel confident in Russia, perhaps because they really know the level of corruption in the country, the level of public sentiment, and the situation with the economy.
And returning to Putin's message that before the West how to live, it would be nice to first achieve their indicators, in terms of average life expectancy, level of corruption, living standards, etc. Moscow to learn to live and work, and not vice versa (I'm talking about the son of Deputy Prime Minister Zhukov).

[AML]

Yes, I immediately indicated that at least 30 euros would have to be invested in the renovation. But you don’t give it to someone else, but make repairs in your house. When selling some old buildings, sometimes conditions are put forward that the facade must be preserved. But inside, you can furnish everything in high-tech style. Sobsno with bourgeois usually this is the case. For example, if you want to change windows, and they do not fit a little, then you must agree with the municipality.

As for what they learned. You need to find out directly on the spot, either at the consulate, or through proxies whom you really trust. The bulk of the middle offices have the task of cutting down the dough from you. And in the end it may end - well, I didn’t, I didn’t.

About the elites. The difference is that the rich can afford to pay here and now, while those with less income have to spread the payment over time, so it turns out more expensive. An analogy can be drawn with buying wholesale and retail. Wholesale, always cheaper. If you have in stock, say 100k no matter what, then take a loan for this amount and buy in bulk. In the end, it will be cheaper and you will always be with the money. But ... the loan must be for the amount that you have available. Ie, in which case you closed it one day and banzai.
100k yesterday and 100k tomorrow are two big differences. The rich differ from the poor in that they know how to accumulate money and spend it wisely. The rest of how much money do not let them screw them up. They will buy themselves cool cars, apartments, and then it turns out that they have no money left to support this stuff and they will fly into the minus even more than they had before. The stories, grief of millionaires who won a lot of money in the lottery are full.

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Quote: AML

Oh, well, about the refugees. You don't have to think that you will come to Holland, complain about the Russian government, get refugee status and everything will turn out to be a health problem for you. They will be interned in the camp, will be fed and given an allowance. But that's all for this. You have no right to work. The average time spent in the camp is 8 years. After that, you may be given citizenship. Why is it possible, because there are cases when people are in camps for 20 years.

If you are not a black transgender, then I do not humanly recommend applying for a refugee.

Oh, how awful it is to live in the Kingdom of the Netherlands ... They will settle in a free camp, where conditions are better than those of 70% of Russians, they give an allowance (which is higher than the average salary in the Russian Federation), they also feed it for free, but not with palm oil and delay, but with normal products. And meanwhile there the grub is cheaper than ours. And the "camp" is not a zone, according to our concepts, it is just a fenced-in area where the very refugees and other internees live, that is. Your freedom will not be limited, a used machine can be bought for inexpensive, gasoline is of course expensive, yes. Oh, I forgot - they teach the language there for free.

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Quote: Lunic

We have the USA, which is also a very free country, if you do not conflict with the police. By the way, I can freely buy a SIM card in a store, but activate it only by documents.

How many US citizens did the police put on a bottle, and how many on a mop? There are already real numbers in Russia ...