Three cherry blossoms: Japan breaks off the leash

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Perhaps, in the light of recent events, it is time to talk about our peculiar neighbor, with whom we have not yet signed a peace treaty, that is, we are almost at war. Yes, if sakura, then we will talk about Japan. Three flowers because we will consider three components, if you will - three elephants, on which the Japanese worldview stands today.

Considering that today's Japanese have complete revanchism in their heads, this will not be superfluous.



So go ahead


Japan, as everyone knows, is a very, very specific country. With very peculiar cockroaches in the heads of the population, with original traditions and everything else. Everything is very complicated and difficult.

In addition, Japan is the only country in the world that has a ban on the creation of an army and military fleet fixed constitutionally.

However, the number tanks, Self-propelled guns, armored vehicles, artillery barrels and air defense systems in the "self-defense forces" number in the hundreds. The Japanese fleet does not leave the world top 10, and the "self-defense forces" are also rated very highly.



Where does all this come from, how did the situation turn out the other way around?

In general, the Constitution for Japan, as you know, was written by General MacArthur with his staff in 1947. And he wrote it so that the warlike Japanese would once and for all restrain their ardor. And the security and independence of the country will be perfectly able to protect and defend the American troops stationed in the country.

And so it was for more than 70 years, but recently something went wrong. And American soldiers with their brawls regularly cause gnashing of teeth among the Japanese, and "protection" costs more and more from year to year. So Japan's desire to jump out from under American protection and acquire its own full-fledged army and navy, it seems to be quite justified.

But what about the Constitution ...


In general, here you can say "also a document for me." There would be a desire to change, but there is a Tereshkova in any country. Moreover, this document was written / edited for the Japanese by a very intelligent person.


In general, then, after the war, accepting the surrender of Japan, General Douglas MacArthur did as much for the Japanese as, probably, no foreigner did.

First, he very carefully prepared for this process, the creation of the Constitution. And most importantly, he did not subject the Emperor Hirohito to any persecution. Although there was a reason, Hirohito's signature could be seen on very interesting documents, for which it was possible to play, if not in Nuremberg, then in Harbin.

The fact that all his power was taken away from the Japanese emperor is nothing, it is better to remain a doll in general, but on the throne. It's better than being on a gallows or in a cell, honestly.

So, keeping Hirohito the status of "governor of Amaterasu" on earth, which actually allowed the Japanese "not to lose face." In general, this is a fairly significant part of the internal world in many Asian countries, and Japan is no exception.

So the face and the emperor were left to the Japanese, but the army and the navy, on the basis of their merits to the Chinese, Koreans, Indonesians and other peoples of the region, were decided to be deprived. And they wrote it down in the very Constitution of Japan.

"Sincerely striving for an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people will forever renounce war as the nation's sovereign right and the threat or use of military force as a means of settling international disputes."

This is the 9th article of the Constitution of Japan.

In addition, they clearly stipulated that in Japan "land, sea and air forces, as well as other means of war, will never be created in the future."

And the last thing: in the same place, in the Constitution, the prohibition on declaring and waging an offensive war is clearly stipulated.

That is, in which case Japan had the right only to defense, and even then, relying on American troops.

In general, it is logical and deserved. Such territories in terms of area, which were captured by Japan during the Second World War, the Germans did not even dream of in the sweetest dreams. That is why they decided to limit it so harshly.

Even Germany did not receive restrictions of this order, the Germans already had the Bundeswehr in 1955, and in 1956 Germany was admitted to NATO. True, he did not remove the American bases from the territory, but this is a completely different story.

Japan, de jure, and today remains "unarmed". Laughter, of course, because 4 helicopter carriers, 40 destroyers and 1000 tanks are, of course, an indicator that the country is completely unarmed in the face of any threat from the outside.


Source: wikipedia.org

How did this happen at all and why does everyone look at it as a completely normal phenomenon?

Here we must look at the year 1951, when Japan and the United States signed the Treaty on Defense and Military Cooperation. According to this treaty, an attack on Japan was considered an attack on the United States. With all the ensuing consequences. That is, the American armed forces immediately had to liquidate any aggression against Japan.

Well, and nothing at all that for this on the territory of Japan, the Americans received the exclusive right to build military bases wherever they want.

True, already in 1952 in Japan they began to think that the Americans are good, but they also need to have their own. And on the basis of the police corps, they created a security force of 110 people. And in 000, the construction battalion was revived, which was completed by conscription.

In 1954, on the basis of the construction battalion and the security forces, the Self-Defense Forces were created. The United States provided artillery and tanks for training purposes and things went well ...


As it became clear afterwards, the Japanese simply took advantage of the loophole in their Constitution, so unobtrusively provided by the authors. Indeed, is there a ban on the conduct of offensive hostilities? Yes, but not a word about the fact that it is forbidden to defend their territories.

From whom? Second question. Here the problem of the Kuril Islands appeared at the right time and China began to actively rise and develop, with which the Japanese have long-standing scores.

The Americans, who willingly developed the armed forces, provided equipment and trained officers in US military universities, openly supported the militaristic aspirations of the Japanese.

Here we must recall the year 1948, in March of which the headquarters of the US occupation forces in Japan issued a secret order to stop the dismantling of 125 enterprises included in the reparations list. Naturally, these were military enterprises of quite specific concerns. And in 1949, 73 Japanese companies that owned military plants and factories were excluded from the list of reparations.

It seems to be a trifle, but already at the beginning of 1950, enterprises producing military products started working again. Cartridges, mines, shells ... But that was the beginning, and then - more.

And in the end, quietly and without unnecessary noise, but by now Japan, which does not have an army and a navy, but has a self-defense police force, with these forces is in the top ten armies of the world.

250 thousand personnel, almost 1 tanks, 000 anti-aircraft missile systems, almost 350 fighters.



About 50 warships in the "neflot" (of which 4 aircraft carriers) and 21 submarines, about a hundred auxiliary vessels.


And it is very interesting that such a state of power ceases to satisfy very many in Japan. What is the problem? The fact that there are legally no soldiers and sailors as such. The Self-Defense Forces include some "employees" with a very ambiguous status.

It is understandable why in Japan they treat the status quo in this way. Eternal respect for the army and the navy (especially), multiplied by revanchism and militarism ... In general, the compote is still the same.

Who will be surprised by the fact that since 2012 some kind of military reform has been underway in Japan, the main, unveiled goal of which is to reformat the Self-Defense Forces into full-fledged Armed Forces? Nobody.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, and the prime minister in today's Japan is above the emperor in influence, back in the year of the 70th anniversary of the adoption of the Japanese Constitution, in 2017, he hinted at length that the basic law should be amended. It is for the sake of the military in Japan becoming again the military, and not employees of the Self-Defense Forces.

Abe, of course, made a mess earlier, in 2015, when he pushed through parliament a law that significantly expanded the capabilities and powers of the Self-Defense Forces. Since the adoption of that law, members of the Self-Defense Forces have been able to participate in hostilities to protect the interests of friendly countries, despite the fact that these actions will be carried out without Japan being attacked.

A small nuance, Japan was not attacked, but it is necessary to provide assistance to friends-allies ... There is a difference. True, despite the fact that the rating of the Self-Defense Forces in Japan itself is very high, the change in the Constitution in the direction of recognizing the Self-Defense Forces as full-fledged Armed Forces of Abe turned out to be beyond his strength. More precisely, he simply did not have time.

It is worth noting that his successor, Yoshihide Suga ... was not as charismatic as Abe. And his actions lay on a slightly different plane than the revival of the Armed Forces. Apparently, this was the reason for the castling a year later. The new prime minister, Fumio Kishida, who has worked as foreign minister for a very long time, knows how to negotiate and look for compromises. We will see how and where the cabinet of ministers will lead its new head, but given the general sentiment in Japan, it is doubtful that it will reduce the Self-Defense Forces.

Very doubtful.

By the way, it is very peculiar, but the fact that Japan really wants to create its own armed forces and unmoor from American patronage is a great merit of the Americans themselves.

It is common knowledge that Okinawa and the military bases there are a source of constant concern for the Japanese.


American soldiers do not allow anyone to relax, keeping the authorities and security officials in good shape with negativity from drunken brawls and fights to outright criminality. And in 2020, and in general, the bases, or rather, their personnel, became the source of the spread of coronavirus on the islands.

But, perhaps, the main nail in the coffin of relations between the military of the two countries was driven by Donald Trump. It was he who, during a visit to Japan, began to "bend" the Japanese by increasing the cost of maintaining the American army from 2 to 8 billion dollars a year. This is the maintenance and repair of ships, the maintenance of bases and the like.

The Japanese deny, but former Trump national security adviser Bolton both said and wrote in his book that Trump not only tried to increase the defense bill, but also threatened to withdraw American troops from the islands altogether.

However, not taking litter out of public, the Japanese still more and more come to the conclusion that such money can be spent on their own. And this is quite logical.

Cracks appear in the relationship. What is the disruption of the supply of ground-based Aegis Ashore missile defense systems, which were supposed to be deployed in Akita and Yamaguchi prefectures by 2023.


In general, the deployment of missile defense systems in these prefectures is quite understandable in light of the systematically transmitted "greetings" of a ballistic nature from North Korea. Since the Koreans "train" the Japanese by launching ballistic missiles in their direction, then something that could counteract these missiles on the shores of Japan is quite justified.

In addition, the complex in Akita prefecture could easily keep the launchers under control in Russia.

And now it didn't work out. Allegedly, the upper stage "Ashore" is unsafe for the civilian population in case of deviation from the given trajectory.

Total: there are no complexes, there is a probability of arrival from North Korean missile forces, there is nothing to defend with. Today in Japan they are not only concerned with what can be used to repel a blow from North Korea, but also with what can be used to respond. Moreover, when he was under the Minister of Defense, Taro Kano seriously considered the issue of the possibility of a preemptive strike against North Korea. And this can in no way be attributed to defensive actions.

If we add to this the constant work of Japan in terms of nuclear energy ... Well, after Fukushima, the whole program was given a "stop" and all the reactors were shut down. However, today out of 62 reactors, 33 are in operation. In terms of nuclear energy, Japan ranks first in Asia and third (after France and the United States) in the world.

Here, the day is not far off when Japan will think about building nuclear submarines or creating a nuclear weapons... Yes, at one time Japan signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, but: The Japanese Constitution does not prohibit the country from developing and having these weapons. And, accordingly, apply. To repel aggression or in response.

This, of course, is said somewhat running ahead. But at one time Japan had several training old American tanks and a dozen howitzers to train the Self-Defense Forces. Today the country has a first-class army and navy.

Tomorrow?



And tomorrow the Constitution of the country may be easily rewritten and then nothing will be able to keep Japan from another plunge into the abyss of militaristic revanchism. Fortunately, there is someone to argue with. Fortunately, rewriting the Constitution is not such a difficult thing, is it, Russians?

If, even under the conditions of prohibitions, Japan creates such armed forces that are not only called by them, then what will happen if the Japanese get off the leash? Moreover, the US aid, paid in yen, will remain in terms of equipment and technology.

The emergence of another uncontrollable player in the Asia-Pacific region could significantly worsen the already not very calm situation. Claims with North Korea, disputes with China, disputes with Russia ...

And all this is very well spiced with Japanese revanchism. You can make a nice pack of yeast in a summer toilet in the July heat. The fact that the Japanese can easily get off the leash of the United States and begin to pursue their policy in the region, I will add that this policy will be openly aggressive - this is a quite possible option. Today's sentiment in Japan indulges this, as well as indulge the main "defenders" from the United States to the development of the armed forces in a country that has no right to possess them.


But this is the topic of the next conversation.
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  1. +6
    26 October 2021 05: 48
    Excellent review from Skomorokhov. A good lesson for those who like to raise the degree of the debate about useless "justice" and "legality" in world politics. They were not, are not and never will be. Everything is decided by the "caliber".
    The Japanese have probably already found their "Sect". Moreover, among the Japanese there will be a casting for a flight to "zero". laughing
    1. +8
      26 October 2021 06: 39
      Quote: samarin1969
      The Japanese have probably already found their "Sect". Moreover, among the Japanese there will be a casting for a flight to "zero"

      I had a small book with a catchy title - "Kamikaze Takes the Wheel", almost one to one she painted the beastly grin of Japanese militarism. All the difference with the article is that the book is either the 74th or the 76th year of publication. laughing
      But joking aside, then there was the Union, and now the Russian Federation, the difference is not in our favor. But China is not hostile.
      1. +7
        26 October 2021 06: 43
        But China is not hostile.

        ... eh, a weak "veil". "In military affairs, it is not intentions that are important, but potential ..."
        1. +2
          26 October 2021 10: 47
          Thick dew lay on the grass
          Fogs fell near the taiga
          That night, the samurai decided
          Cross the river

          Now who? Kunfuists?
          1. +1
            26 October 2021 23: 41
            Excellent article!
            The military-political review of Japan, made by the author, is exactly what we need, and very, very timely!
            The situation in the world is heating up!
            1. +2
              27 October 2021 17: 44
              I agree with Roman that Japan is gaining strength and militarizing. What this will lead to is a big question!
      2. +3
        26 October 2021 08: 38
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        But joking aside, then there was the Union, and now the Russian Federation, the difference is not in our favor. But China not hostile.

        During Stalin's time, China was friendly request
      3. +4
        26 October 2021 22: 44
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        But China is not hostile.

        Can't be so sure about it
    2. +17
      26 October 2021 06: 43
      ... Where does all this come from, how did the situation turn out the other way around?

      China. He became too strong and it was necessary to oppose something. Now Japan is a serious thorn in Russia and China.

      There would be a desire to change, but there will be Tereshkova of her own

      Tereshkova is to blame for everything. If not for her, the shameful zeroing would not have happened. Exactly!

      Fortunately, rewriting the Constitution is not such a difficult thing, is it, Russians?

      So to us for the miraculous amendments to heavenly life promised... Yes, for this we are even ready to vote on stumps!
      But why, after all this, prices rise again, and there is not shit in your pockets?

      1. +13
        26 October 2021 06: 45
        Quote: Stas157
        If it hadn't been for her, zeroing would not have happened. Exactly.

        laughing Probably subtle "Japanese" sarcasm ...
        1. +3
          26 October 2021 08: 40
          1/9 (or less) of sushi from such "sarcasm" of an 84-year-old lady will hiccup for a long time. Just comment on comment.
    3. +14
      26 October 2021 09: 30
      Quote: samarin1969
      Excellent review from Skomorokhov.

      Unfortunately, it is not very precise and detailed when it comes to the defense potential of Japan. But for the most part, I agree with Roman. Yes
      1. +6
        26 October 2021 13: 47
        Japs have long been moving towards the abolition of these articles of the Constitution and the transformation of the self-defense forces into a full-fledged army. And the states support them as another counterweight to the PRC and us. Their projects are also interesting, bearing signs of dual use. Like various rocket projects.
    4. +7
      26 October 2021 11: 17
      Quote: samarin1969
      A good lesson for those who like to raise the degree of the debate about useless "justice" and "legality" in world politics. They were not, are not and never will be.

      Nothing is new. Very similar to how the Germans acted after WWI. Germany was also banned from keeping a normal army. What happened in the end, everyone knows ...
  2. +5
    26 October 2021 06: 15
    Everything may be, there is no stability in the world for a long time. The confrontation between the two systems has ended. But the fight against world terrorism has begun, and those who created it are fighting against it, and why, under this noise, there will not be a revival of militarism in some regions?
  3. +6
    26 October 2021 06: 47
    By the way, a plus. Japan, as an integral part of the Western world, organically fits into the bacchanalia created by this world on the planet. Only with an oriental flavor. It seems that there is an army, but at the same time it is not there. It seems that the Constitution prohibits solving one's own issues by open use of force outside its territory, but does not prohibit openly talking about taking away "one's own" from neighbors. The Constitution is a piece of paper that can be rewritten. And no one has canceled the Belli incident. It is used successfully in the Western world. 9/11 is a great example! So you can find a reason for a military invasion of a neighbor's territory to take this territory away. Moreover, in the Western world it is customary to blame Russia for everything and everyone and consider it an aggressive threat to the whole world. request ... And the West is a master to insinuate something to justify its actions ... So the tension in the Far East will only grow ...
    There is no time to express my thoughts more fully about Japan.
  4. +3
    26 October 2021 07: 14
    IMHO. Japan in the region is a red rag for everyone. With any movement - they will extinguish the crowd. Even the Koreans under this case are sharply matched. China - no questions asked. Vietnam ... even Taiwan, I think, will spit on everything and participate. Moreover, there will be no "compulsion to peace." It will be cruel, in an Asian way, with the complete removal of the archipelago.
    1. +3
      26 October 2021 08: 26
      Quote: sergo1914
      IMHO. Japan in the region is a red rag for everyone. With any movement - they will extinguish the crowd. Even the Koreans under this case are sharply matched. China - no questions asked. Vietnam ... even Taiwan, I think, will spit on everything and participate. Moreover, there will be no "compulsion to peace." It will be cruel, in an Asian way, with the complete removal of the archipelago.

      Any "removal of the archipelago" would mean a war with the United States. Are many willing to do this?
      1. -1
        26 October 2021 08: 37
        Quote: Tucan
        Quote: sergo1914
        IMHO. Japan in the region is a red rag for everyone. With any movement - they will extinguish the crowd. Even the Koreans under this case are sharply matched. China - no questions asked. Vietnam ... even Taiwan, I think, will spit on everything and participate. Moreover, there will be no "compulsion to peace." It will be cruel, in an Asian way, with the complete removal of the archipelago.

        Any "removal of the archipelago" would mean a war with the United States. Are many willing to do this?


        USA against the whole region? One country is not. Union - yes.
        1. +7
          26 October 2021 08: 40
          Which region? Do you believe that the Russian Federation, the PRC and the DPRK will act as a united front against Japan? wassat
          1. -1
            26 October 2021 08: 43
            Quote: Tucan
            Which region? Do you believe that the Russian Federation, the PRC and the DPRK will act as a united front against Japan? wassat


            RF is not. We will stand on the sidelines. But the rest of Southeast Asia will come to the banquet.
            1. +5
              26 October 2021 08: 50
              Why? No. Someone rushing to heaven? wassat
              Do you know the US forces and facilities in Japan, and what treaty obligations are there between the countries?
              Apparently not. No.
            2. +10
              26 October 2021 09: 28
              Quote: Tucan
              Do you know the US forces and facilities in Japan, and what treaty obligations are there between the countries?

              For more than half a century, Japan and the United States have been operating the "Treaty on Mutual Cooperation and Security Assurances." Under this treaty, the United States is obliged to cooperate with the Japan Self-Defense Forces in maritime safety, assist in ballistic missile defense, assist in securing air borders, coordinate domestic air traffic, secure communications, and participate in disaster relief.

              The Japanese islands have 8 large bases, more than 80 US defense facilities, and about 90 US military personnel, civilian specialists and their families. Any large-scale attack on Japan will inevitably affect American military installations and will mean war with the United States.

              You may be interested in this:
              American air defense forces, aviation reconnaissance and control systems deployed in Japan

              https://topwar.ru/184868-amerikanskie-sily-pvo-aviacionnye-sredstva-razvedki-i-upravlenija-razvernutye-na-territorii-japonii.html
              1. -2
                3 November 2021 23: 49
                Great! there was little left to compare the strength. 90000 and 1 AUG amers plus about the same amount of the Japanese "non-army" and 50 ships against 400+ ships and several million of the Chinese army. are they seriously trying to discuss some kind of confrontation or some kind of Japanese ambitions? it is even more ridiculous than the scenario of the resistance of the Baltic states to the Russian army. Yes
      2. +2
        26 October 2021 13: 41
        Is not a fact. The United States will not quarrel with Taiwan, South Korea over Japan. If the ambitions of the samurai are tamed by someone, the United States will only be happy.
        A too strong Japan would potentially pose a threat to US interests as well.
      3. -2
        26 October 2021 18: 06
        Here it will be the same as in Afghanistan - the United States is quickly evacuated.
        1. +3
          27 October 2021 19: 27
          Quote: Vadim237
          Here it will be the same as in Afghanistan - the United States is quickly evacuated.

          The role of Afghanistan has been greatly exaggerated.
          This is a worthless, medieval country, which even the USSR could not even change by half a goat ...
          And even more so for the United States.
          And in 3-5 years this country will really rot around everyone.
          Over her, absolutely everyone will spray another Orange.
          And it will be legal.
          Since absolutely all dekhans began to grow opium poppy.

          To enslave them is unrealistic, to civilize them is unrealistic.
          This is such a medieval conclave.
          Accordingly, they will burn.
          And I think that we should start.
          Afghan drugs are already above our ears.
    2. +8
      26 October 2021 09: 04
      Not very realistic.
      Will the Americans also be taken out?
      Rather, they will unite against China.
    3. -4
      26 October 2021 09: 37
      Japan in the region is a red rag for everyone. With any movement - they will extinguish the crowd. Even the Koreans under this case are sharply matched. China - no questions asked. Vietnam ... even Taiwan, I think, will spit on everything and participate. Moreover, there will be no "compulsion to peace." It will be cruel, Asian style, with the complete removal of the archipelago.
      The chief (USSHA) will order to sit on the priest evenly and will take it under the visor. And China will take advantage of this mess in order to squeeze Taiwan out quickly on the sly, while everyone is busy.
    4. +4
      26 October 2021 15: 34
      Some kind of groundless fantasies. It is much more logical to assume that, under the common wing of the USA-Europe-Australia, the Asians will begin to dispossess (uncommunicate) China and North Korea. S. Korea is breathing on its own, Y. Koreans have something to do there. Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines will gladly share the islands. India is close to this pro-American anti-Chinese camp. Vietnam is drifting from communism to capitalism, and China itself is not very communist. The paradigm of capitalism-democracy is gaining the upper hand, and it is logical that this idea will spread geographically as well.
      1. +4
        26 October 2021 17: 14
        “Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines will gladly share the islands.” They will fight over them! lol there is no one who does not recognize the islands as someone else's, except as their own am

        I am sure that in Asia, no one wants a war with China, although under the command of the United States, but everyone wants to have a roof from China and from the United States, by the way, too. China is a huge source of income as a vacuum cleaner of resources and the investor is also not bad, the USA is an excellent sales market and an enviable investor too. I think everyone there wants to sit on all the chairs and row in their pockets as much as possible.
        The United States is leading the case to a situation of the final choice of OR, OR, thereby warming up the region.
        Japan in one mug will not attack anyone, although they have a strong army and navy, but not so much as to challenge the continental powers of Russia and China, all the same, the forces are still not in favor of Japan and the vulnerability of the countries is completely different, but in As a US ally in a hypothetical conflict, Japanese forces are very dangerous! First of all, it is Russia, since the presence of American forces completely negates our advantage in aviation, for example, in missile weapons, and their advantage at sea increases many times over.
        1. +1
          26 October 2021 19: 38
          I agree in many ways, but the thought is the following: in a situation of tough choice, or / or all these Asians are much more comfortable sharing at least something from China-North Korea under the global Anglo-European roof than going into a military conflict (where even China and North Korea until they are torn) with this roof for the sake of trying to snatch something else for themselves, but at the risk of almost everything there is. risk and reward are not comparable. the Philippines itself and Malaysia are quite together with the United States, while Vietnam is no longer strongly opposed and traditionally not for China. It is much easier and more natural for South Korea to go along with its own and then divide North Korea than to go against the allies and grapple with Japan without much logic.
          1. 0
            27 October 2021 08: 12
            In Asia, there are many petty unsettled issues, and many of them have it with China. But the questions there are just petty, no one claims on the territory of China, and China, too, does not claim on the territory of its neighbors, except for Taiwan, of course. I think that most countries will try to maintain neutrality, at least until the situation when it is obvious that someone is defeated.
            Of course, the United States, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan will act as a united front + other US allies such as Australia and Britain, which will send expeditionary forces.
            The PRC and the DPRK will jointly solve tasks that are absolutely clear to everyone, the unification of Korea and the annexation of Taiwan. It is quite possible that the conflict in Iran will escalate on the sly.
            India, before determining Russia's position in this conflict, will probably also keep neutrality. If we pass, then the Indians can squeeze mountains from China, if we take the side of the PRC, then they will remain neutral.
            What should we do in this conflict? It will be difficult for us to stay aside.
            1. 0
              27 October 2021 08: 54
              And if you think carefully, then there is generally a conflict only around Taiwan is possible. Japan's war with China, apart from problems, does not give anything, this is not Russia, and I think they will sit out until we enter this conflict. South Korea war against the DPRK and PRC roulette, tk. forces are not equal on land, even if the United States sends someone, the unification of Korea may well turn out not from south to north, but vice versa wassat
              And it makes no sense for us to fit into the struggle for Taiwan, China will not be defeated in such a conflict, it may be defeated, it will bear wild economic costs, but these are its problems. And if, nevertheless, the PRC seizes Taiwan, then this is only a plus for us, since the United States will lose credibility, and Europe will become more independent and pragmatic in relations with Russia.
              1. 0
                4 November 2021 00: 00
                Quote: Eroma
                And it makes no sense for us to fit into the fight for Taiwan

                you are greatly mistaken. when the question arises about 70% of microcircuits produced in the world and access to advanced technologies in microelectronics, the Russian Federation will definitely participate in this. if not by military force then political for sure.
  5. +2
    26 October 2021 07: 29
    The country "has no right to an army" - it is difficult to imagine great insanity
  6. -2
    26 October 2021 07: 50
    Regardless of the next conversation, one conclusion suggests itself: in any development of events, we must have a tool to nullify the threat from the Yap, up to the most radical. Especially in light of the latest statements regarding the Kuriles. Your shirt is more expensive for yourself. Dialectics however. hi
  7. +1
    26 October 2021 07: 54
    The main reason is China's growing military and economic power. Which has a long list of claims against Japan since WWII. The US is not reliable - it will easily sacrifice Japan if necessary.
    1. +3
      26 October 2021 09: 43
      The main reason is China's growing military and economic power. Which has a long list of claims against Japan since WWII. The US is not reliable - it will easily sacrifice Japan if necessary.
      Oh sure laughing ! The Japanese sleep and see the Nanjing massacre repeat laughing .
      The main reason is significant territorial claims (entire islands, not a couple of rocks with seagulls) to one country with which even a peace treaty has not been concluded. And they can already resolve these claims.
      1. -2
        26 October 2021 13: 45
        And they can already resolve these claims.


        No. And Japan is currently only an object of international law, not a subject.
        The Japanese themselves are not capable of making such decisions, only with the permission of Uncle Sam.
        And not the fact that Uncle Sam will give the go-ahead for such an adventure.
        1. +1
          27 October 2021 01: 33
          Quote: Illanatol
          And they can already resolve these claims.


          No. And Japan is currently only an object of international law, not a subject.
          The Japanese themselves are not capable of making such decisions, only with the permission of Uncle Sam.
          And not the fact that Uncle Sam will give the go-ahead for such an adventure.

          But I agree). Uncle Sam does not need any problems with Taiwan, which Uncle X will want to solve under the guise of this adventure.
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  9. +7
    26 October 2021 09: 00
    Total: there are no complexes, there is a probability of arrival from North Korean missile forces, there is nothing to defend with.

    In fact, the Japanese destroyers with Aegis missile defense have not gone anywhere, and due to the fact that Japan is on the islands, they will cope with the same tasks as ground installations, and even better, perhaps, they can be more profitably located.
    Plus, in the future, the Japanese are planning Patriot missile defense systems, again, mobile.
    1. +10
      26 October 2021 09: 34
      Quote: Avior
      Plus, in the future, the Japanese are planning Patriot missile defense systems, again, mobile.

      Why are they planning? They have been carrying databases for a long time, including the upgraded PAC-3 MSEs. Also, don't discount the Japanese Type 03 Kai.
      Missile defense of Japan

      https://topwar.ru/185244-protivoraketnaja-oborona-japonii.html
      1. +5
        26 October 2021 09: 56
        Yes, you are right, Sergei, they are already carrying the database.
        Just when I read that the Japanese abandoned ground-based Aegis, it was about purchasing modernized PAC3, that is, it turns out, in addition to the existing ones. The Japanese have something to defend against North Korean missiles.
        1. +6
          26 October 2021 10: 11
          Quote: Avior
          Just when I read that the Japanese abandoned ground-based Aegis, it was about purchasing modernized PAC3, that is, it turns out, in addition to the existing ones.

          Modernization of Japanese "Patriots" is carried out at Japanese enterprises. Japan participates in the production of PAC-3 MSE components as a full partner.
          1. +3
            26 October 2021 10: 32
            In last year's messages about the abandonment of the land Aegis, it sounded like this

            However, if Aegis Ashore is abandoned, it would be a bad idea to rely only on ship-borne missile defense systems, which are equipped with some destroyers of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Forces (four Congo-type EMs, an analogue of the US Arleigh Burke-class URO destroyers). Taro Kono ....
            In the near future, it is planned to supply Japan with the upgraded Raytheon SM-3 Block IB / IIA anti-aircraft missile systems and Patriot PAC-3 anti-aircraft missile systems with improved capabilities to combat ballistic missiles.
            This modification of the air defense missile system was named "Patriot" PAC-3MSE (Missile Segment Enhancement), where a new missile with an increased range was introduced ....

            Perhaps it was about the supply of additional complexes to the existing ones.
            1. +4
              26 October 2021 10: 38
              Quote: Avior
              Perhaps it was about the supply of additional complexes to the existing ones.

              According to the information I have, the Japanese are planning to modernize some of the existing complexes. Replacement is possible for PAC-2 received over 20 years ago.
              1. +1
                26 October 2021 10: 41
                maybe just an addition to the existing ones, or maybe the complexity of translation.
                This phrase was repeated in different sources then, so I remember
              2. -4
                26 October 2021 13: 48
                The most effective against Japan would be the use of torpedo weapons with nuclear warheads.
                This is a very, very vulnerable country, few people are still so vulnerable. And no one is morally ready to sacrifice everything for the sake of scraps of land. All this chatter about the "Northern Territories" is just a political trick, nothing more.
  10. -7
    26 October 2021 09: 45
    Everything as usual.
    Where America supposedly controls the order, it's always a mess.
  11. +6
    26 October 2021 09: 50
    But China is not hostile.

    China .. acts purely and exclusively in the interests of China. Is always.
    In general ... the situation is of course extremely interesting. During the past Cold War, the reality was that the United States was the undisputed first economy in the world, with a very good lead over any rival countries. Now ... the situation is "a little different".
    And, alas, most likely, "Cold War 2.0" will be. Between the US and China, of course. Only the nature of the conflict will be slightly different. If the first Cold War was essentially a "fierce dispute" between the market capitalist economy of the USA + Western Europe + Japan and the planned and administrative economies of the USSR and the CMEA countries, then Cold War 2.0 will become a "fierce dispute" over the arrangement a globalized economy arranged according to the market principle and, most importantly, the structure of "command and control centers" of this very economy.
  12. +6
    26 October 2021 10: 14

    And all this is very well spiced with Japanese revanchism. You can make a nice pack of yeast in a summer toilet in the July heat.

    "A pack of yeast
    Threw in the toilet
    In the July heat
    And I understood
    That I am a revanchist wassat "
    I partially agree with Roman, but it’s not that simple with Japan. On the one hand, they are an ally or a servant of the United States. On the other hand, they hate Americans. On the third, everyone in Asia does not like them. With the fourth, they themselves do not love anyone. Even if they forge their katana, it is not clear who it will be directed against. Anyone can get on its edge.
    1. -3
      26 October 2021 13: 53
      No one. Japan is vulnerable and practically deprived of its own resources.
      A naval blockade or even partial disruption of communications is enough to bring Japan to its knees. All industry, transport, power plants will stand firm.
      And that's all - a complete kirdyk.
      Who lives in a dollhouse should not shoot at neighbors with cannons. And they won't.
      1. +1
        27 October 2021 19: 31
        Quote: Illanatol
        No one. Japan is vulnerable and practically deprived of its own resources.
        A naval blockade or even partial disruption of communications is enough to bring Japan to its knees. All industry, transport, power plants will stand firm.
        And that's all - a complete kirdyk.
        Who lives in a dollhouse should not shoot at neighbors with cannons. And they won't.

        Place Japan in a blockade, whose fleet is larger than the Russian one, the aircraft fleet is about 75% of the Russian ...

        The only thing that they have less is hats, every 50, with the same population.
        Ага.
        1. -1
          28 October 2021 14: 06
          Place Japan in a blockade, whose fleet is larger than the Russian one, the aircraft fleet is about 75% of the Russian ...


          A complete blockade is not needed. A partial disruption of communications is enough.
          And there is no need to tell a fairy tale about the power of the "Self-Defense Forces". This is a crowd of office clerks in uniform and nothing more. Forgot how gunpowder smells. Where and when did these "Forces" manifest themselves?
          What is less in Japan - so real men. Slobber and record holders for various forms of sociopathy.
    2. +3
      26 October 2021 17: 30
      Quote: KKND
      "A pack of yeast
      Threw in the toilet
      In the July heat
      And I understood
      That I am a revanchist "

      Oh, it came to the Japanese tank! Not very classical, however, there should be 31 syllables, but not bad, not bad ... lol
  13. -5
    26 October 2021 10: 27
    I understand that there are many people in Washington who defend their dissertations in history, but they do not write their theses, but put their crazy ideas into practice. Of course, most of this is the concern of psychiatrists, but, unfortunately, this began to directly affect Russia after the collapse of the USSR. The American army itself is afraid to fight with Russia, and is hardly capable of it. But Russia has its primordial historical enemies, which are easy to learn about by studying a course in world history. And so the United States decided that it was time to revive international relations of the late XNUMXth - early XNUMXth centuries, when Japan and Germany were Russia's main competitors. (We will keep silent about Turkey for now.) We must pay tribute to the American humanitarians. They scrupulously, step by step, achieve their goal - to set Japan and Germany against Russia. And since America tightly controls these countries, then if they succeed on the battlefield, it will take all the laurels of the winner, leaving the performers only to revel in glory, without receiving anything in return. Let them thank that they survived, although not all.
    If such a scenario is realized, Russia should understand that in the future, if aggression is repelled and subsequent victory, these countries should not exist, since history cannot constantly repeat itself, and, alas, it is impossible to go forward with them. This must be learned and understood in Japan and Germany. Thus, we must first of all stop resting on the laurels of the Great Victory, since the struggle that is taking place today and will continue in the future will not be for life, but for death. We do not need the establishment of a new yoke, because we will hardly be able to free ourselves from it.
    1. 0
      26 October 2021 21: 21
      About Germany you are in my opinion in vain. It is quite possible to build mutually beneficial relations with the Germans and move forward into the future.
  14. +2
    26 October 2021 12: 31
    "Even if you need a sword once in a lifetime, you should always wear it" is a Japanese proverb. Kurils need to grow bigger eggs
    1. +3
      26 October 2021 17: 32
      Quote: Grandfather Mozai
      Kurils need to grow bigger eggs

      Not "more", but "stronger". winked
  15. 0
    26 October 2021 13: 15
    rewriting the Constitution is not such a difficult thing, is it, Russians?

    You, Roman, are not hinting at 1993, are you? Is it still breaking you from one single point of the latest changes in it?
  16. 0
    26 October 2021 13: 44
    On the basis of revanchism, Russia could also get along with Japan, especially considering that we may not be able to hold China alone, support will be needed.
  17. DMi
    -8
    26 October 2021 13: 53
    We would exchange the islands for a peace treaty and clear borders recognized by both sides. It is easier and cheaper than preparing for war, or, even more so, to fight.
    There is no sense to us from these islands, but hemorrhoids are a wagon. But ... Apparently arrogance and greed, called "patriotism" will not allow to come to such a simple decision.
    1. +7
      26 October 2021 14: 20
      Another ranting in the style of Kemsk volost, damn it. But, if you gain strength and look at the map, it turns out that with the loss of these "worthless" islands, we will be completely locked in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
      1. DMi
        -5
        26 October 2021 14: 58
        Does the Russian Federation have any interests beyond the Sea of ​​Okhotsk ??? Or just like "this is for me, this is also for me, and this is for me"
        1. +5
          26 October 2021 17: 37
          Quote: DMi
          Does the Russian Federation have any interests beyond the Sea of ​​Okhotsk?

          Do you think that the interests of the Russian Federation do not extend beyond your garden? And without a "peace treaty" with Japan, Russia has lived for more than a dozen years and will live for more than a hundred more. And no peace treaty will cancel the development of defense capabilities. And if "patriotism" is not a close and incomprehensible concept for you, then you shouldn't brag about it.
          1. DMi
            -2
            26 October 2021 20: 32
            I believe that it is in the interests of Russia to have clearly defined and agreed borders along the entire perimeter. And not behave like a gopnik. I took it, now it's mine.
            It is also in the interests of the Russian Federation not to go into the seas and oceans. We, with the largest land area, have not learned how to manage effectively. Claim more, your mouth will break.
            1. +1
              27 October 2021 12: 57
              Quote: DMi
              I think that

              So it's good for you. There is such a concept "breadth of worldview". Everyone has their own boundaries in the worldview. Someone “no further than my own gate”, someone “no further than the seashore, I cannot swim”. But you will have to put up with the idea that there are people in Russia whose worldview is greater than yours, and long-term planning is far away than "tonight until evening." And you can not put up (this is also your inalienable right), you can rage about this: "How is it, Russia does not allow itself to rub its feet, I am against !!!" Only this, fortunately, will not change anything.
    2. +2
      27 October 2021 00: 56
      Quote: DMi
      We would exchange the islands for a peace treaty and clear borders recognized by both sides. It is easier and cheaper than preparing for war, or, even more so, to fight.
      There is no sense to us from these islands, but hemorrhoids are a wagon. But ... Apparently arrogance and greed, called "patriotism" will not allow to come to such a simple decision.

      There is such a saying: we have not mastered / conquered, it is not for us to decide.
      For example, you have a plot with a built house, this plot of land is separated from one large plot, and a neighbor who has a boundary border with you believes that the boundary of his plot should be moved 2 meters from the boundary line in your direction, especially along his In your opinion, nothing grows here except for the grass. So, there is no sense in these 1,5 acres along the boundary border, you do not grow anything, hemorrhoids of litigation with a neighbor, a carriage, cede a part of your land to your neighbor?

      You might think that they (the Japanese) will explore and develop the Kuril Islands. No, they will build fish processing plants, a military base, catch aquatic biological resources, block the Kuril straits with drift nets, block the spawning passage of salmon fish into the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, get the right to extract minerals on the islands and the sea shelf, and gain access to catch valuable species fish in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
      How "carefully" the Japanese relate to natural resources (aquatic biological) is not known, we know ...
      1. DMi
        -1
        27 October 2021 01: 44
        They forgot to say that the neighbor had owned this piece for 100500 years before. And you are only a couple of months. In addition, if I have 1000 hectares behind me, why not give it away so that my neighbor would calm down.
        1. 0
          27 October 2021 02: 48
          Quote: DMi
          They forgot to say that the neighbor had owned this piece for 100500 years before. And you are only a couple of months.

          Who, the Japanese owned the Kuril Islands? They relatively recently conquered (did not master) the island of Hokkaido, and given the period of Japan's isolation from the mid-17th century to the mid-19th century, the question of the development and ownership of the Kuriles, Sakhalin and even Kamchatka by the Japanese is very controversial.
          The Chinese and Japanese methods of defining their allegedly historically neighboring territories differ from the Western ones. So the Chinese emperors or the Japanese simply declared the territories located along the perimeter of their actual (controlled) territories extending inland from the borders up to a thousand kilometers vassal or controlled, in fact they were not controlled and not developed.
          Quote: DMi
          In addition, if I have 1000 hectares behind me, why not give it away so that my neighbor would calm down.

          But on this issue, "I am tormented by vague doubts", I think that you are dissembling - claiming that you would give a part of the land for the sake of "peace of mind of a neighbor" ?!
          1. DMi
            -1
            27 October 2021 03: 22
            No ... a set would consider it a bargain. In addition to tangible assets, there are also intangible assets. And they are much more valuable, more often than not.

            And in order to understand whose Kuril Islands, it is enough to look at the map. Well, or can we remember who owned the Crimea in the 17th century ?? Then the claims of the Russian Federation to this territory are also considered illegal and give it back to the Tatars, or the Turks. Let's be consistent? Or double standards ??
            1. +1
              27 October 2021 06: 59
              Quote: DMi
              And in order to understand whose Kuril Islands, it is enough to look at the map. Well, or can we remember who owned the Crimea in the 17th century ?? Then the claims of the Russian Federation to this territory are also considered illegal and give it back to the Tatars, or the Turks. Let's be consistent? Or double standards ??

              Well, where do you come from fair? What map confirms the belonging of the Kurils, and maybe Sakhalin and even Kamchatka to the Japanese?
              Okay, maybe let's remember who owned the territory of modern Texas? Why is Northern Ireland not part of Ireland? Or is it different?
              Quote: DMi
              Well, or can we remember who owned the Crimea in the 17th century ?? Then the claims of the Russian Federation to this territory are also considered illegal and give back to the Tatars, or the Turks. Let's be consistent? Or double standards ??

              laughing Why Turks or Tatars ?! Let's remember the Greeks - let them live there. It is a pity the descendants of the Sarmatians and Scythians did not remain. And the Hungarians from the plains of Pannonia to the Urals and the Kazakh steppes. All the descendants of the Franks, Angles, Saxons, ready to go to Jutland and Sweden with Norway, and let the Turks move to Central Asia ... Let's be consistent, what is already there. Yes
              1. DMi
                -1
                27 October 2021 14: 30
                Well, you confirm my words. These excursions into history are useless.
                The just are taken from common sense and a sense of conscience. But this is rare, of course.
                1. +1
                  28 October 2021 04: 16
                  Quote: DMi
                  Well, you confirm my words. These excursions into history are useless.
                  The just are taken from common sense and a sense of conscience. But this is rare, of course.

                  To each his own, according to conscience and justice ... Yes
                  Not for you and not for me, and even for the head of state to scatter the territories that have been developed, even as you do not mind to hear - conquered by our ancestors, for the preservation of descendants.
                  Paphos has nothing to do with it.
                  1. DMi
                    0
                    28 October 2021 10: 45
                    And to whom ?? The sacred cow was found the same. Territories are just a resource, you do not need to break your forehead in front of them as in front of idols.
                    1. +1
                      28 October 2021 10: 54
                      Question: Do you live in the Far East?
                      Quote: DMi
                      And to whom ??

                      Well, certainly not for you.
                      1. DMi
                        -1
                        29 October 2021 11: 08
                        Well, formulate your thought to the end, if you can? Who can make such a decision, if even the head of state cannot.
                      2. +1
                        30 October 2021 06: 49
                        Quote: DMi
                        Well, formulate your thought to the end, if you can? Who can make such a decision, if even the head of state cannot.

                        To begin with, review my previous comments, so it is noted for whom such a decision ... Or not in a position?
                      3. DMi
                        -1
                        30 October 2021 20: 15
                        No, not marked. No specifics, like a cutesy young lady who believes that the interlocutor himself must guess.
                      4. +1
                        30 October 2021 23: 14
                        Quote: DMi
                        No, not marked. No specifics, like a cutesy young lady who believes that the interlocutor himself must guess.

                        Well, if you have become personal, I will note my opinion about you: if a person is initially set up only to "spew out" his stream of verbiage, listens, but does not hear, what is the point of throwing beads in front of him ?! Yes, you will repeat what was written earlier at least ten times, every time it will be - I don't see, I don't hear ...
                      5. DMi
                        -1
                        31 October 2021 10: 25
                        Well, like a cutesy young lady, he was hysterical. Without saying anything in essence)) but this is now more likely the norm. Men raised as women.
                      6. +1
                        31 October 2021 12: 10
                        what Smart, self-confident men do not get personal in a dispute, but give reasoned answers.
                        Also, without knowing the opponent personally, they do not poke in communication, we did not drink at brotherhood and did not baptize children.
                        Correspondence communication with such "Ononyms" as you allows you to determine the level of education and attitude towards opponents associated with the so-called. "virtual protection", i.e. you can offend, troll with impunity in the Internet space, being confident in your physical security. Simply put - "there is no need to answer for the market." Yes
                        Call yourself DMi, or is hiding the essence of your upbringing?
                      7. DMi
                        -1
                        1 November 2021 09: 34
                        I gave the arguments. It was with them that I started. In response, I heard nothing but water. And later the water turned into hysterical, indistinct, pretentious sobs. So you don't have to appeal to "arguments". I will discuss the arguments with those who are able to discuss and understand them.
                      8. 0
                        5 November 2021 14: 18
                        Quote: DMi
                        I gave the arguments. It was with them that I started. In response, I heard nothing but water. And later the water turned into hysterical, indistinct, pretentious sobs. So you don't have to appeal to "arguments". I will discuss the arguments with those who are able to discuss and understand them.

                        Are the arguments your statements about the existence of some kind of map that confirms the possession of Japan, and that the transfer of the Kuril Islands will allegedly entail "good-neighborly relations" with Japan and the conclusion of a peace treaty?
                        To my question about the map, you did not answer, also that the previous treaties of the Russian Empire with Japan, also with the transfer of part of the islands, ended.

                        laughing Regarding hysteria:
                        Your poking, rudeness, incomprehensible accusations are a sign of hysteria. Yes
                        In psychiatry, if I am not mistaken, there is such a concept - attributive projection, as a defensive reaction of the personality. A person as a person who has his own inner experiences, inferiority complexes, projects his inner emotions and feelings onto other people, endows them with his own complexes.
                        Accordingly, hysterical individuals with an unstable psyche, or men who feel like a woman, transfer (project) their inner state onto other people, in other words, declare that all hysterics, psychos, and "women".
                        Apparently this is your case. Yes

                        Dear DMi wink It was a part of my profession to take people out of the state of inner peace of mind. What do you know about endurance, not succumbing to provocations, inspecting detained poaching vessels under foreign flag (seiners / processors, transports) at sea? laughing

                        what We dirtied the branch with our srach, I propose to write in a personal, if, as I understand it, you are eager to sort things out.
                        By the way, I didn't put any minuses on you, because there is no negative, only research interest as a person. Yes
                      9. DMi
                        0
                        5 November 2021 19: 59
                        Nowhere did he write the word of the card and did not refer to any cards. Learn to read the text as it is, and not your personal projections and attitudes. To start. And the term "projection" is used in psychology and psychotherapy, it has nothing to do with psychiatry. These are all different areas of knowledge. Although for those who are familiar only with the name and popular summaries, these areas merge into one. The usual thing.

                        According to history and conscience, the Kuril Islands are not a Russian land. And politically, it's a suitcase without a handle. Holding on to them at any cost is a dead-end and lost strategy. Point.
                      10. 0
                        8 November 2021 00: 48
                        Quote: DMi
                        Nowhere did he write the word of the card and did not refer to any cards. Learn to read the text as it is, and not your personal projections and attitudes.
                        According to history and conscience, the Kuril Islands are not a Russian land. And politically, it's a suitcase without a handle. Holding on to them at any cost is a dead-end and lost strategy. Point.

                        Your comment on October 27th?
                        Quote: DMi
                        No ... a set would consider it a bargain. In addition to tangible assets, there are also intangible assets. And they are much more valuable, more often than not.

                        And in order to understand whose Kuril Islands, it is enough to look at the map.

                        Therefore, I asked the question, which is the current political card, or some kind of historical one?
                        If in all conscience, so and about. Hokkaido should not belong to the Japanese. To get started, study the information about the development of the Japanese of this island.
                        Quote: DMi
                        And the term "projection" is used in psychology and psychotherapy, it has nothing to do with psychiatry. These are all different areas of knowledge. Although for those who are familiar only with the name and popular summaries, these areas merge into one. The usual thing.

                        Psychotherapy is the treatment of mental illnesses, which are studied by such a medical discipline as psychiatry, this is what I wrote about, and not about psychology. Assists in the treatment (or study / research) of a psychiatrist (severe mental disorders), psychotherapist (mild mental disorders).
                      11. DMi
                        0
                        8 November 2021 01: 09
                        The usual geographic atlas of the world. Where is Russia, where is Japan and where are the Kuril Islands. That's what there is to rest against then. This is not our territory.

                        Psychotherapy deals with behavioral correction and extreme states of NORM, not mental illness. Mental illness is already beyond the boundaries of the NORM, and this is already a somatic disorder, as a rule. It is only in our country that doctors by training are engaged in psychotherapy. The rest of the world has different rules. And the "projection" mechanism is one of the ways of unconscious defense. And as you might guess, these mechanisms were found and formulated by specialists dealing with the unconscious. And they were definitely not psychiatrists) Psychiatry has already clinging to this terminology.
                      12. 0
                        8 November 2021 02: 07
                        Quote: DMi
                        The usual geographic atlas of the world. Where is Russia, where is Japan and where are the Kuril Islands. That's what there is to rest against then. This is not our territory.

                        Such a statement is not an argument. Where is Denmark, and where is Greenland geographically, however, historically the largest island belongs to this country.
                        As it is considered, the provisions of international law regulating relations between countries have developed from the norms and customs that have been in force over the past centuries. So, during the periods of great geographical discoveries, the actual possession of the countries of the Western world was confirmed not only by the "fact of the discoverer", but also by the fact of owning such a territory:
                        After the publication in Europe in the 1740s of the news about the discovery of the Kuril Islands by Russian sailors, the governments of other powers requested permission from the Russian authorities to visit the islands of this region with their ships. In 1772, the Russian authorities placed the Kuril Islands under the control of the main commander of Kamchatka, and in 1786, Catherine II issued a decree on the protection (preservation) of rights to "lands discovered by Russian navigators", including the "Kuril Islands ridge concerning Japan." ... This decree was published in foreign languages. After publication, no state challenged Russia's rights to the Kuril Islands. State crosses and copper plaques with the inscription "Land of Russian possession" were installed on the islands.
                        During this period of time, Japan was a closed state, there was a ban for the local population to visit other territories. In addition, the island of Hokkaido itself was mastered (conquered) by the Japanese until the first quarter of the 19th century, not before the Kuriles.
                        Attention to the islands of the Kuril ridge and about. Sakhalin Japan began to show only after the Meiji Revolution (industrial revolution) requiring resources (minerals and biological).
                      13. DMi
                        0
                        8 November 2021 02: 40
                        This was a "great discovery" for Europe. And the Japanese were drinking sake there and waging wars when Catherine was not yet in the project. This is such a self-righteous swagger to call the "discovery" of people and territories that long before the Europeans lived their own lives and did not even notice that they were "discovered") this is what is called in history Eurocentrism. And this is a long-term abusive term in science.
                      14. 0
                        8 November 2021 03: 10
                        Quote: DMi
                        This was a "great discovery" for Europe. And the Japanese were drinking sake there and waging wars when Catherine was not yet in the project. This is such a self-righteous swagger to call the "discovery" of people and territories that long before the Europeans lived their own lives and did not even notice that they were "discovered") this is what is called in history Eurocentrism. And this is a long-term abusive term in science.


                        You are mistaken, at these times the Japanese sake drunk to the south, but in the southern part of about. Hokkaido (Oshima Peninsula), across the Sangar Strait from about. Honshu, in the extreme south-west of the Oshima Peninsula, in 1604, the feudal principality of Matsumae was established, a vassal of the Tokugawa shoguns, to which the entire island was given. It was called at that time Ezo, and its indigenous population was made up of the Ainu, the conquest of which stretched for more than two centuries. Kuriles and Sakhalin to the north ...

                        Full-scale economic development of the island began only during the transformations in Japan after the Meiji Restoration in 1868. In 1869, the island was then renamed Hokkaido, which can be literally translated as "province of the northern seas" or "path to the northern seas", and then became a single administrative unit with the rights of the governorship. In the same 1869, the government established the Hokkaido Colonization Office and took the matter of developing the island into its own hands. Government control over the development of Hokkaido continues to this day. It is carried out through the Hokkaido Development Agency, created in 1950, whose head has the rank of minister of the Japanese government.

                        The difference between the rulers of countries in the Far Eastern region (China, Japan) during the Great Geographical Discoveries, as you put it from "Europeancentrism," was that formally, adjacent territories were declared vassals or belonging to them. To put it simply, all that I see is mine (the eye sees, but the tooth is numb). Temporary fishing settlements do not count.
                      15. DMi
                        0
                        8 November 2021 12: 29
                        "Everything that I see is mine" - this is still relevant, for example, for those who, in full honesty, consider the Kuril Islands to be the territory of the Russian Federation.
                        It is quite obvious that the Japanese, the Chinese and the Koreans were on these islands long before the Russians. The fact that there are no written sources about this does not at all negate common sense.
                        You would not play with toys with who conquered whom and when. Otherwise, the Russian Federation will have to give all of Siberia to the indigenous population, and Sochi and the Black Sea coast to the Circassians. Circassians, by the way, the tsar father cut out at about the same time, when the Japanese figured out the prices. So if you start playing "historicity" as an adult, then little will remain of the territory of the modern Russian Federation.
                      16. 0
                        8 November 2021 14: 00
                        Quote: DMi
                        "Everything that I see is mine" - this is still relevant, for example, for those who, in full honesty, consider the Kuril Islands to be the territory of the Russian Federation.
                        It is quite obvious that the Japanese, the Chinese and the Koreans were on these islands long before the Russians. The fact that there are no written sources about this does not at all negate common sense.

                        Earlier I asked you a question: are you a resident of the Far East?
                        Have you been to Japan, China or South Korea?
                        It is completely unobvious, moreover, no cultural layers of staying on the islands (apparently Sakhalin was also included) of the Japanese, Koreans or Chinese have not been established. To get started, take an interest in the history and population of the Amur region, Manchuria, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands, including the island of Hokkaido from the 16th century. until the first quarter of the 20th century.
                        After all, I am giving you information (Japanese) about the development of Fr. Hokkaido, when the Russians were already in the Kuriles and Sakhalin, and the geographical and navigational maps were compiled by Russian sailors.
                        Similarly, I will answer that it is quite obvious that in the north about. Hokkaido, the Russians were long before the Japanese, as the Japanese in the second half of the 18th century could hardly keep on a small piece in the south-west of Fr. Hokkaido is surrounded by the warlike indigenous population of the Ainu. The fact that there are no written sources about this does not at all negate common sense.

                        Quote: DMi
                        You would not play with toys with who conquered whom and when. Otherwise, the Russian Federation will have to give all of Siberia to the indigenous population, and Sochi and the Black Sea coast to the Circassians. Circassians, by the way, the tsar father cut out at about the same time, when the Japanese figured out the prices. So if you start playing "historicity" as an adult, then little will remain of the territory of the modern Russian Federation.

                        What is Siberia and Sochi related to this topic? You still haven't answered which region or country you live in?
                        How to play historicity as an adult?
                        Please, let’s go without slogans and theses in style: the Japanese were before, because of common sense or an incomprehensible adult game of historicity.
                        Reminds of a silly joke from the Ural dumplings: Why is that? Because ... gladiolus.
                      17. DMi
                        0
                        8 November 2021 16: 37
                        Because ... it's the same logic. If the Japanese do not have the right to Hokkaido and the Kuril Islands because Only in the 19th century these lands were seized, then in the same way the Russian Federation has no right to the Black Sea coast, the North Caucasus and the Crimea, by and large. Russia in the same way seized these lands from the indigenous population in the same years. So, referring to "history" you immediately question the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation.
                        Or double standards? Is it okay for us, but not for quick-eyed? We are for the glory of the state and Russian weapons, and the Japanese, insolent muzzles, open their mouths to someone else's. Is it true ??
            2. 0
              27 October 2021 13: 00
              Quote: DMi
              Well, or can we remember who owned the Crimea in the 17th century ??

              And who? Are they really Ukrainians?
            3. 0
              27 October 2021 13: 03
              Quote: DMi
              In addition to tangible assets, there are also intangible assets.

              And what is the intangible asset in this matter? Calm down in a snag of insolent Japanese? Yes, we wanted to sneeze at their concern. Their calmness is not an asset for us. Let them rage.
              1. DMi
                -3
                27 October 2021 14: 27
                Well, how are you different from the Japanese militarist greyhounds? Or the greyhound militarists of the Americans? Yes, nothing.
                As long as most people on the planet think in this way, wars and mayhem will never end.
                The asset in this case is a fixed and signed contract, and a normal working relationship with a neighbor.
                1. +3
                  27 October 2021 19: 41
                  Quote: DMi
                  As long as most people on the planet think in this way, wars and mayhem will never end.

                  Wars will not end even when not the majority, but one or even a half percent of the population are outrageous. For a revolver and a kind word are always more convincing than a kind word.
                  Quote: DMi
                  The asset in this case is a fixed and signed contract, and a normal working relationship with a neighbor.
                  Does not work. The status of the islands, fixed and signed after (and as a result) of the war, suddenly, out of the blue, unilaterally ceased to suit Japan. This is lawlessness. The Japanese are the very same gopniks who spit on existing documents. And Russia is not going to indulge the gopniks. Fortunately, she has a revolver in a holster for this.
                  Here you, you personally, can give the Japanese your apartment (or a house with a plot, I don’t know what you have there) to ensure “good neighborly relations”. What are you trying to establish "good-neighborly relations" at the expense of smokers? With yourself and start, the Japanese will not give up, I think.
                  1. DMi
                    -1
                    27 October 2021 20: 02
                    Demagoguery as it is.
                    1. +1
                      28 October 2021 15: 32
                      Quote: DMi
                      Demagoguery as it is.

                      Well, okay. If something is inaccessible to understanding, then it is demagoguery.
                      The drain is counted.
                      1. DMi
                        -1
                        29 October 2021 11: 11
                        The style of thinking and style of speech makes it impossible for any kind of communication with such a person.
                      2. 0
                        29 October 2021 14: 25
                        Well, fine. That's agreed.
        2. +1
          27 October 2021 13: 08
          Quote: DMi
          They forgot to say that the neighbor had owned this piece for 100500 years before.

          You don't know history well. Books used to be read ...
          Quote: DMi
          In addition, if I have 1000 hectares behind me, why not give it away so that my neighbor would calm down.

          And he will not calm down. He will need more and more. Sakhalin, Primorye ... Why stop when you just vyakni, they will immediately give you everything?
  18. -1
    26 October 2021 14: 20
    Roman, thank you so much for the article on the militarization of Japan! But, I wanted to get coverage from you on two more topics:
    1) Allies and rivals of Japan, your vision of the military-political situation in Japan and around it. Sentiments in Japanese society. Japan's readiness for war.
    2) Russia - the current state of the Pacific Fleet and the Eastern Military District, readiness to repel threats from Japan in the event of an attack or escalation. Your suggestions for increasing Russia's combat readiness for possible threats from Japan. What has already been done on this issue, judging by information from open sources.

    And yet, a week ago there was your article "The revival of the Japanese aircraft carrier fleet", is it a continuation or a separate article? Think you are so hot? What can be done in the near future besides diesel-electric submarines?
    In the discussion of this article, I expressed some thoughts on this matter, I would like to hear your opinion.
    Below is an excerpt from the discussion:
    "In the discussions of articles on the Far East, I have repeatedly expressed the need to build a second missile defense position area in Primorye (an analogue of the anti-missile defense system of the Moscow region). following:
    1) Saturate Primorye, Sakhalin Island and Kuriles with air defense, electronic warfare and electronic warfare systems, attack cruise missiles
    2) Accelerate the construction of diesel-electric submarines 636.3 for the Pacific Fleet and increase the series to 12 units, work out a scheme for dispersing new attack diesel-electric submarines and include two new temporary deployment points in it - Vanino-Sov. Gavan and Simushir Island (Broughton Bay)
    3) Accelerate work on the creation of a large military airfield on Sakhalin Island with two runways of 3 km and the ability to receive up to 120-150 aircraft. aircraft at a time, including the attack Tu-22M3M, Su-34, Su-30 and Su-35, the RER, EW and AWACS aircraft, as well as the TZ and the amphibious assault vehicle. Provide for the deployment of airborne personnel of the Airborne Forces division, technical personnel and flight personnel for up to 6 months. on a rotational basis. With a frequency of once every 1 years, arrange a demonstrative seizure of the islands of the Kuril ridge by the forces of the Airborne Forces, the Navy and the Marine Corps, practicing the capture of Fr. Hokkaido and blocking the Tsugaru Strait, capture or destruction of the naval base in Mitsu.
    4) Consider a project for the construction of a full-fledged naval base in Fokino, Danube and Putyatin Island, capable of receiving ships of rank 1 and 2 in the number of triple composition of the Pacific Fleet for NK and submarines.
    5) Conduct war games to repel a joint Japanese-American attack on Sakhalin, Kamchatka and Primorye with the development of effective measures to repel aggression, the complete destruction of the Japanese fleet and military infrastructure by massive non-nuclear missile strikes.
    5) Accelerate the saturation of the Pacific Fleet with rank 3-4 surface ships, including RTOs equipped with Kalibr strike missiles, etc.
    6) Accelerate work to complete the modernization of naval bases in Viluchinsk and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky with the saturation of the staff with new submarines and NKs.
    7) Extend the series of universal DKVD projects under construction in Kerch to 6 units, 2 of which will be sent to the Far East
    8) At Shipyard Zvezda, after launching the PD-50 floating dock, start the construction of a series of 6-9 ships of the 1st rank (Project 22350 frigates or destroyers of a new project).
    9) Together with China, work out interaction on blocking the Tsushima Strait and the East China Sea for Japanese and American forces, destroying the US military infrastructure in Japan and South Korea and delivering strikes on Guam!
  19. 0
    26 October 2021 14: 26
    Let's face it, Japan is a melitarist country! And what they have written on the fence of the constitution is just a cover for their evil designs.
    1. +3
      27 October 2021 01: 47
      Let's face it, Japan is a melitarist country! And what they have written on the fence of the constitution is just a cover for their evil designs. [I] [/ i]
      And we are a pink pony on a rainbow laughing laughing
      1. 0
        27 October 2021 10: 06
        Well you can be.
  20. +8
    26 October 2021 17: 30
    It seems that the Japanese do not even need to reset anything - from their point of view, the Kuril Islands are THEIR TERRITORY, and therefore fall into the scope of their "self-defense forces". One fine day, the next Japanese prime minister will simply say that some part of Japan "has come under occupation" - they will deploy a no-fly zone, a blockade, then they will land troops - all this will be a la the beginning of the Falklands. In this conflict, the Japanese do not have to defeat us at all - If everything goes quietly and peacefully and we retreat, then they will be happy) But if not, it is still beneficial to them, because this event will give them carte blanche to rewrite the constitution, directing public anger towards Russia, sharp militarization and subsequent major revenge - aimed at much larger territories than these islands. It would be quite in their style. Suffice it to recall how they "probed the ground" on Khasan and Khalkhin Gol. Uncle Sam in this situation will, on the one hand, pretend that he is not in business and call for peace-diplomacy, etc. sixes will "voice kakbe personal opinion" in which we are highly discouraged from deepening the conflict. Unfortunately, all this may well happen in the foreseeable future.
    1. -5
      26 October 2021 18: 18
      One fine day, another Japanese prime minister will simply say that some part of Japan "has come under occupation" - they will deploy a no-fly zone, a blockade, then they will land a landing - Only how will they do it if now on two disputed islands there are air defense divisions C 300B4 Armor and Bastions ... One blow to them - and the entire strike force in the person of our strategic aviation and all the missile weapons located in our Pacific Fleet will fall on Japan. And the Japanese are aware of all this and are aware of the fact that the Pacific Fleet has tactical nuclear weapons that ours will use against the formations of their ships in the event of hostilities - wars of brave suicides, despite 800 years of the Bushido cult, there is now little left there.
      1. +8
        26 October 2021 19: 00
        It should be understood that in this case, our conscience will be the first to use nuclear weapons (which, like, contradicts our doctrine, etc.), and secondly, we, in principle, will be the first to use nuclear weapons in a combat situation after the Second World War. This is also a completely calculated move - in this case, they do not take the islands "impudently", but the "international community" gets an excellent reason to bury us even deeper in shit - the whole situation will be turned around so that in fact we will be accused of disproportionate aggression, the very status of the islands will be challenged not only by Japan, but also by other states that will find the use of nuclear weapons unacceptable within a local conflict. Our country will face unprecedented sanctions and international condemnation, against the background of which the temporary preservation of the islands will not seem like a victory. In turn, the Japanese will draw conclusions from this (like the United States) - the first will receive carte blanche for their nuclear program and the subsequent development of tactical nuclear weapons - and given the background, no one in the world would dare to accuse them of violating the NPT. The latter will receive the moral right to preemptively use their tactical nuclear arsenals - now they will have an excellent otmaz on the fact that if they do not do it first, we will do it. The degree of militarization of the region will increase manifold. Our use of nuclear weapons inside a local conflict will make Europe a nightmare - the border states will be even more tolerant of US bases and elements of missile defense, "de jure" now neutral states can change their neutrality to a bloc status. All the more tight-fisted European NATO members over the years will become more compliant in approving the budget - and the public is much more tolerant of the preservation or consolidation of American facilities with nuclear weapons.

        Within the UN, a discussion will be initiated on the removal of the status of a member of the UN Security Council from us - 3 Security Council members will vote in favor, the PRC will probably abstain - as they usually do on most issues that do not benefit them personally. If the discussion expands beyond the UN Security Council, be sure that after the use of nuclear weapons, most of the UN member states will not be on our side, because a very suitable cultural ground for the myth of the "Russian aggressors" has long been prepared. Etc..

        So no, it won't be "easy" in this case. On the contrary, all this will be an excellent springboard for a war that is no longer local.
        1. +4
          27 October 2021 01: 54
          I completely agree. One of the few real scenarios for the development of the situation. For us, disastrous by the way.
        2. +2
          27 October 2021 10: 09
          Why first ?! The second after the United States, though with only one goal ...
        3. -2
          27 October 2021 15: 21
          (which, like, contradicts our doctrine, etc.) It does not contradict any more - Russia has every right to respond with nuclear - tactical in any attack on its territory. For one great demonstration to the whole world that we are not kidding.
        4. -5
          27 October 2021 15: 35
          Our country will face unprecedented sanctions and international condemnation, against the background of which the temporary preservation of the islands will not seem like a victory. It will not collide - since the same Europe is already completely dependent on our resources, the quotes will drop, but over time everything will settle down like the economy.
          "The first will receive carte blanche on their nuclear program and the subsequent development of tactical nuclear weapons - and given the background, no one in the world will dare to accuse them of violating the NPT." START will be covered in the same way as the previous ones. And the Japanese do not have production facilities for enriching uranium or obtaining weapons-grade plutonium, as well as production facilities for creating components of nuclear charges - all this takes decades and tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars.
          "Within the UN, a discussion will be inspired to remove our status as a member of the UN Security Council - 3 Security Council members will vote in favor, the PRC will probably abstain - as they usually do on most issues that do not benefit them personally. Rest assured, after the use of nuclear weapons, most of the UN member states will not be on our side, because a very suitable cultural ground for the myth of "Russian aggressors" has long been prepared. And so on ..

          So no, it won't be "easy" in this case. On the contrary, all this will be an excellent springboard for a war that is no longer local. "- Well, we will not have a vote in the UN and that the United Nations all put the same on the United States all the more. Russia will not act like that - they respect and reckon only with the strong, and our compliant position in recent years just makes us not decisive weaklings in political terms.
      2. +1
        26 October 2021 22: 49
        Quote: Vadim237
        the entire strike force in the person of our strategic aviation and all the missile weapons located in our Pacific Fleet will fall on Japan.

        Is there this aviation at the Pacific Fleet?
        1. -1
          27 October 2021 15: 38
          And what for the strategic aviation is in the Pacific Fleet - the flight time to Japan is several hours from the bases inside the country Tu 22M3 with anti-ship missiles in service with the Far East, and the MiG 31 with the Dagger is the same.
    2. +4
      27 October 2021 01: 49
      Completely real scenario. A question of time (date).
  21. +3
    26 October 2021 17: 44
    If, even under the conditions of prohibitions, Japan creates such armed forces that are not only called by them, then what will happen if the Japanese get off the leash?
    And nothing will change. The armed forces (self-defense, yeah) of Japan have an existing state not from the name in the Constitution, but from the capabilities. This is what we can do. And the formal change of the name "camouflage men" will not solve anything from the word "absolutely". When it comes to an opportunity (or an imaginary opportunity taken for a real one) to satisfy your militaristic and revanchist wishes, all paper signatures turn into pipifax.
  22. 0
    26 October 2021 18: 32
    On the whole, I agree, but I would like to send the author of the article 3 letters for his constant mention of the Russian Constitution.
  23. +3
    26 October 2021 18: 42
    Quote: Bongo
    The Japanese islands have 8 large bases, more than 80 US defense facilities, and about 90 US military personnel, civilian specialists and their families. Any large-scale attack on Japan will inevitably affect American military installations and will mean war with the United States.


    That is, in the event of the Japanese aggression on the Kuriles, Russia will not be able to use nuclear weapons against Japanese territory, because this will inevitably lead to a world war?
    But ordinary forces cannot do anything. The Kurils are far from the mainland, but close to Japan, and after capturing them, they will immediately arrange the supply of their occupation group.
    The domination of their fleet and aviation in the conflict zone over the Sea of ​​Japan will not allow us to transfer fresh reserves there.
  24. 0
    26 October 2021 21: 16
    Interesting, very interesting!
  25. 0
    26 October 2021 21: 35
    Quote: Adrey
    Oh sure ! The Japanese sleep and see the Nanking Massacre repeat itself.
    The main reason is significant territorial claims (entire islands, not a couple of rocks with seagulls) to one country with which even a peace treaty has not been concluded. And they can already resolve these claims.

    Totally agree with you. I am surprised how many do not see this. The lightning-fast seizure of the islands and the infliction of tangible damage to the Pacific Fleet will quickly put our government at the negotiating table, one of the conditions of which will be Russia's neutrality in the upcoming confrontation between the United States and China (here the minke whales kill two birds with one stone). But I'm afraid this will only be the beginning of our troubles, not only will the people see the weakness of our government, Kadyrov will also see it with his heavily armed battalions.
  26. 0
    27 October 2021 13: 46
    Plus the problem of overpopulation. The growth dynamics is good. We need territories. It will soon become critical for them.
  27. +1
    27 October 2021 14: 16
    Japan has no tomorrow. One of the oldest countries on the planet.
    In fifteen to twenty years, there will be no mobilization reserve in Japan. There will not be just the required number of workers to maintain a large army.
    China and Korea, sitting on the shore, will simply wait for the corpse of Japan to float along the river.
    1. 0
      27 October 2021 15: 40
      In 20 years, they, like us, will have robotic troops, robots and drones that will occupy at least 50% of the Armed Forces.
    2. 0
      1 November 2021 11: 21
      Quote: demiurg
      Japan has no tomorrow. One of the oldest countries on the planet.
      In fifteen to twenty years, there will be no mobilization reserve in Japan. There will not be just the required number of workers to maintain a large army.
      China and Korea, sitting on the shore, will simply wait for the corpse of Japan to float along the river.

      In China, the birth rate is lower than in Japan and the aging rate is quite a bit behind Japan, the South Koreans even more so.
  28. 0
    27 October 2021 14: 38
    Although this has been said many times, I will say it again. They feel our weakness and are torn off the leash.
  29. -1
    27 October 2021 23: 52
    Japan is what is around Fujiyama. And Poseidon rules the ball. They will twitch, they will have to climb to the top of an extinct volcano with the whole samurai Caudla. If he doesn't wake up by then.
  30. 0
    30 October 2021 18: 27
    Japan is an island state, the entire territory of Japan is being shot from all sides by missiles. And with the help of rocket weapons, any aggressive actions of Japan can be broken. The Japanese must be told about this openly. It remains to decide on the carriers of missile weapons. Two regiments of amphibious aircraft with missiles reinforced with flying drones, a division of submarines with UUVs, a dozen ekranoplanes and corvettes with missiles, the Marine Corps and Special Forces, plus coast guard, missile defense, PLO, electronic warfare. That's all it takes to calm Japan down.
    1. Aag
      0
      2 November 2021 20: 24
      Quote: Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev
      Japan is an island state, the entire territory of Japan is being shot from all sides by missiles. And with the help of rocket weapons, any aggressive actions of Japan can be broken. The Japanese must be told about this openly. It remains to decide on the carriers of missile weapons. Two regiments of amphibious aircraft with missiles reinforced with flying drones, a division of submarines with UUVs, a dozen ekranoplanes and corvettes with missiles, the Marine Corps and Special Forces, plus coast guard, missile defense, PLO, electronic warfare. That's all it takes to calm Japan down.

      "... Two regiments of amphibious aircraft with missiles reinforced with flying drones, a submarine division with UFOs, a dozen ekranoplanes and corvettes with missiles, the Marine Corps and Special Forces, plus coast guard equipment, missile defense, PLO, electronic warfare. you need to calm down Japan ... "
      Fir trees! Simple as that! ... Only I'm afraid - even if all of the above is miraculously teleported to the east - it may turn out to be not enough ... We may not scrape together the bottom ends ... ? After all, up to eastern Siberia we will lose everything ...

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