The Turkish delegation is considering the capacity of the Tbilisi aircraft plant for the possible production of attack drones

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The Turkish delegation is considering the capacity of the Tbilisi aircraft plant for the possible production of attack drones

The Georgian authorities are counting on the development of military aviation... Reportedly, for this, the stake is placed on "allies" from NATO, first of all - on "Turkey belonging to the region."

The Georgian Defense Ministry informs that it is discussing with its Turkish counterparts the issues of deepening cooperation in the military-technical sphere. First of all, we are talking about the development of military aviation. In particular, Georgia "continues to implement the transition to NATO standards, including NATO standards in terms of providing military equipment."



Negotiations are taking place in Georgia. The capital of this republic was visited by a Turkish delegation headed by the Director General of the Turkish Aerospace Company.

Representatives of the Turkish delegation visited the Tbilisi aircraft plant (today it is called "Tbilaviamsheni").

Previously, the enterprise was named "Plant No. 31". It was founded in Soviet times - in 1941. Over the years of its existence, the Tbilisi Aviation Plant has produced and repaired hundreds of aircraft and missiles. Among the manufactured products are MiG-15, MiG-17 fighters, Su-25 attack aircraft.

To date, this enterprise, which after privatization and re-privatization came under the control of the Georgian Ministry of Defense, has lost capacity for the production of airplanes and helicopters. In the best case, the aircraft is being repaired at the plant. For example, Mi-24 and UH-1 helicopters and Su-25 attack aircraft are being repaired.



The Turkish side is considering the industrial capabilities of the Georgian aircraft factory for the production of military aviation products. First of all, we are talking about the production of Turkish reconnaissance and strike drones.
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  1. +23
    23 October 2021 14: 31
    Turks already feel at home
    1. Maz
      0
      23 October 2021 14: 57
      Ukraine number two. For those that they do not do, the output is moonshine, bacon and honey. And these chacha, kinzmarauli and tangerines with mimosa
      1. +1
        23 October 2021 23: 10
        Quote: Maz
        Ukraine number two. For those that they do not do, the output is moonshine, bacon and honey. And these chacha, kinzmarauli and tangerines with mimosa

        And also Colchis !!!
        As they said: there is no lynx more terrible than a beast, and a car from Kutaisi !!!
    2. +3
      23 October 2021 17: 18
      Quote: Mora
      Turks already feel at home

      And why should they not go if they were allowed into the house and bowed in greeting.
      1. +1
        23 October 2021 20: 17
        Ambassadors from ten countries calling on Turkey to release the activist Osman Kavala have been declared persona non grata. Such an order was given to the country's Foreign Ministry by President Tayyip Erdogan, RIA Novosti writes.

        We are talking about representatives of diplomatic missions from Germany, Sweden, USA, France, Finland, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Canada and New Zealand.

        It seems to me that Biden should be very offended.
        And on what pedals he will now put pressure on we will soon see.
        This is unexpected. What an interesting time we live in! bully
        1. 0
          23 October 2021 23: 57
          The Turkish Foreign Ministry has not yet officially declared the ambassadors of ten countries persona non grata. RIA Novosti drew attention to this.

          Thus, the Turkish Foreign Ministry has not yet complied with the order of President Recep Erdogan to stop the presence of the heads of diplomatic missions of Canada, France, Finland, Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden and the United States in the country because of their call for the release of human rights defender Osman Kavala. At the same time, the Foreign Ministry confirmed the summons of the ambassadors and indicated that it had reminded them of the need to observe the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

          Also, none of the ten embassies announced that the ambassadors had become persona non grata.

          laughing
    3. 0
      23 October 2021 17: 40
      At home in Adjara
  2. +1
    23 October 2021 14: 32
    Build ... build production ... UAV won't help you anyway. And the Turks will squeeze Adjara away from you ... quietly, gently, almost imperceptibly ... They know what they are doing.
    1. -8
      23 October 2021 14: 36
      They will build that from your fabrications, that's real,
      1. 0
        23 October 2021 17: 20
        Quote: Kid Yesterday
        They will build that from your fabrications, that's real,

        Another target for Iskander? In 2008, they did not understand, apparently.
        1. +2
          23 October 2021 18: 22
          Quote: Piramidon
          Another target for Iskander? In 2008, they did not understand, apparently.

          In 2008, the plant was attacked by Russian aviation, not by OTRK ...
    2. +3
      23 October 2021 14: 37
      It looks very much like that ... they will rewrite all the names, and then substitute geography and voila, one more province will appear for the Turks.
    3. +24
      23 October 2021 14: 42
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And the Turks will squeeze out Adjara from you.

      Georgians have not yet understood where they are getting in
      1. Bat
        -9
        23 October 2021 17: 28
        Quote: Mora
        Georgians have not yet understood where they are getting in

        :) If you understand, tell me I will laugh heartily) I'm just dying here from laughter from your posts, honest word))))) You have squeezed a decent territory from them, and now you are worried about them) You are entitled to an Oscar.
        1. +5
          23 October 2021 18: 24
          Quote: Yarasa
          You have wrested a decent amount of territory from them

          When did the Russian Federation wrest its territory from Georgia? Tell
          I will laugh heartily) I'm just dying here from laughter from your posts, honest word)))))
          1. Bat
            -7
            23 October 2021 19: 51
            Quote: Lara Croft
            When did the Russian Federation wrest its territory from Georgia? Tell

            You remind me of an excerpt from the film Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession. Forgive me if I may not answer this question. All the same, I'm sitting in the Russian forum. Certain rules must be followed.
            1. 0
              23 October 2021 20: 36
              Quote: Yarasa
              Forgive me if I may not answer this question ..

              For God's sake ... Google the text of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and you will not see in it those republics that the Russian Federation allegedly wrested from Georgia ...
              All the same, I'm sitting in the Russian forum.

              Sit on and continue to troll the kind and trusting members of the forum ... the forum is free for everyone to express themselves, there are also "Bulgarians" here, and there are Israeli Jews and no one offends them, one might even say the opposite ...
              1. Bat
                -4
                23 October 2021 21: 20
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Sit on and keep trolling the kind and gullible members of the forum ..

                Thanks for that too. 080808 this is not Russia fought with Georgia ....... I understood everything)

                Quote: Lara Croft
                Google the text of the Constitution of the Russian Federation

                Not necessary. I didn’t see what I saw, I didn’t hear what I heard.
                1. +4
                  23 October 2021 21: 32
                  Quote: Yarasa
                  Thanks for that too. 080808 this is not Russia fought with Georgia ....... I understood everything)

                  You understood correctly. There has never been a state of war between Georgia and the Russian Federation, the opposite has not been proven by you ...
                  There was a military operation to force one of the Parties to the conflict to peace, at the time the Georgian Armed Forces began Operation Clean Field, the ceasefire agreement in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone continued to operate, the peacekeeping battalion from Georgia in the ceasefire zone withdrew itself from performing its peacekeeping functions and left his area of ​​responsibility before the shelling of Tskhinvali ...
                  Well, then you know everything
                  This happens when the peacefulness of the Russian Federation is sometimes perceived as weakness, the price of these short-sighted actions is the loss of its territory ... as history is predetermined ...
                  1. -3
                    24 October 2021 09: 13
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    Quote: Yarasa
                    Thanks for that too. 080808 this is not Russia fought with Georgia ....... I understood everything)

                    You understood correctly. There has never been a state of war between Georgia and the Russian Federation, the opposite has not been proven by you ...
                    There was a military operation to force one of the Parties to the conflict to peace, at the time the Georgian Armed Forces began Operation Clean Field, the ceasefire agreement in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone continued to operate, the peacekeeping battalion from Georgia in the ceasefire zone withdrew itself from performing its peacekeeping functions and left his area of ​​responsibility before the shelling of Tskhinvali ...
                    Well, then you know everything
                    This happens when the peacefulness of the Russian Federation is sometimes perceived as weakness, the price of these short-sighted actions is the loss of its territory ... as history is predetermined ...

                    That is, if the Germans, during the seizure of Poland, would have called it not a war, but an operation to force peace, then there would be no WWII, and Poland, meanwhile, would be bye bye, so it turns out?
                    1. -1
                      24 October 2021 09: 37
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      That is, if the Germans, during the capture of Poland, would have called it not a war, but an operation to enforce peace, then there would be no WWII.

                      And who told you that the Germans called the occupation of Poland WWII? I will say more, they did not know that they were starting WWII ...
                      Poland was tied by a military alliance with France and Great Britain, so a response to Germany was guaranteed ...
                      It seems that if they did not declare war on Germany, but on the contrary supported Germany in every possible way, then June 22 for our country would have come back in 39 ... but, as they say, history does not like the subjunctive mood ...
                      But we digress from the topic of the article ... for example, whether Georgia will recreate its Air Force or not, taking into account the future modernization of the 31st aircraft plant, it is unlikely that they will limit themselves to assembling UAVs ...
                      1. -2
                        25 October 2021 10: 29
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        That is, if the Germans, during the capture of Poland, would have called it not a war, but an operation to enforce peace, then there would be no WWII.

                        And who told you that the Germans called the occupation of Poland WWII? I will say more, they did not know that they were starting WWII ...
                        Poland was tied by a military alliance with France and Great Britain, so a response to Germany was guaranteed ...
                        It seems that if they did not declare war on Germany, but on the contrary supported Germany in every possible way, then June 22 for our country would have come back in 39 ... but, as they say, history does not like the subjunctive mood ...
                        But we digress from the topic of the article ... for example, whether Georgia will recreate its Air Force or not, taking into account the future modernization of the 31st aircraft plant, it is unlikely that they will limit themselves to assembling UAVs ...

                        That is, you yourself refute your words? 08.08.08 there was a war against Georgia, what should you not call it?
                      2. 0
                        25 October 2021 17: 34
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        08.08.08 there was a war against Georgia, what should you not call it?

                        And when did the Russian Federation announce it to Georgia? Do not confuse button accordion with accordion ...
                      3. -2
                        25 October 2021 20: 06
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        08.08.08 there was a war against Georgia, what should you not call it?

                        And when did the Russian Federation announce it to Georgia? Do not confuse button accordion with accordion ...

                        Not to be confused, but when did Alexander declare war on Darius III? Well, they didn't declare war, but there was war, all of Persia was rolled into the asphalt, and half the world was on top. Or maybe in every European war, without deframb and diplomatic fraud, the war was not started, without a piece of paper, yes?
                  2. -2
                    25 October 2021 16: 32
                    As far as I remember, Georgia did not try to force Russia to peace, when Grozny was plowed several times a day wink
                    1. -1
                      25 October 2021 17: 35
                      Quote: Suleyman
                      As far as I remember, Georgia did not try to force Russia to peace,

                      But in vain. Now there would be no problems with Georgia due to its absence as a country ...
              2. 0
                23 October 2021 21: 23
                I won't say about Ossetia, but no matter how the Turks bought Abkhazia. And this, by the way, is 200 km of the Black Sea coast for inexpensive.
                1. -2
                  23 October 2021 22: 46
                  Quote: White man
                  I won't say about Ossetia, but no matter how the Turks bought Abkhazia. And this, by the way, is 200 km of the Black Sea coast for inexpensive.

                  They feel quite at ease there! Do you want to buy Turkish goods? Welcome to Abkhazia!
    4. +10
      23 October 2021 15: 02
      Well, let them try. Since the times of the USSR, the "quality" of equipment and complex goods produced in Georgia has been known - the defect is 90% and higher. The drivers who got the Kolkhida truck were especially "happy". They had not only words, but also thoughts were obscene. However, like the "Armenian miracle", who knows. Drying out of Georgia in the troops required immediate defect detection and preventive bulkheads, so that later the pilot would not be buried.
      1. Bat
        -4
        23 October 2021 17: 32
        Quote: Shelest2000
        Well, let them try. Since the times of the USSR, the "quality" of equipment and complex goods produced in Georgia has been known - a defect of 90% and higher.

        Yes it was. In my opinion, if my memory does not fail me, chassis trucks for POINT-U and for OKA were also produced in Georgia and the quality was not so hot. And then they took them away again.
      2. 0
        23 October 2021 21: 25
        And also tire production, communication equipment, etc.
        1. 0
          24 October 2021 10: 16
          Nothing unique, this one was produced in every republic of the former Soviet Union ...
    5. -2
      23 October 2021 15: 55
      How did they wrestle Ossetia and Abkhazia?
    6. Bat
      -6
      23 October 2021 17: 26
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Build ... build production ... UAV won't help you anyway. And the Turks will squeeze Adjara away from you ... quietly, gently, almost imperceptibly ... They know what they are doing.

      It will not be worse with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Believe me) What could be squeezed out of them has already been squeezed out. It just kills me with what irony you write, with what concern for Georgia you wrote)))))) Bravo, I'll give you a plus. You didn't even blush))))
      1. 0
        23 October 2021 18: 33
        Quote: Yarasa
        It will not be worse with Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

        And what karma befell these republics? They are independent states (from no one except the Russian Federation), if they want, they will unite with Georgia again, then what do you care about Abkhazia and South Ossetia, are they asking you for money?
        Believe)

        Kind and even all gullible members of the forum do not believe you ...
        What could be squeezed out of them has already been squeezed out.

        Who overcame that?
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          1. +1
            23 October 2021 20: 27
            Quote: Yarasa
            Which republics?

            And what did they squeeze out then?
            I don't know such republics, if that's what I'm thinking.

            The path to enlightenment is always open. Taiwan is also a partially recognized state, but this does not mean that no one recognizes its existence ...
            By the way, I think the inhabitants of these republics are unlikely to regret not recognizing them, incl. some kind of Azerbaijan, because they are recognized, maintained and protected by the RF SAMA ...
            :)))))) I won't even comment :)))))))))))

            For God's sake. "We now have a free country" (c) "Zhmurki"
            Will not allow.

            This is true and they know about it.
            Do you think Azerbaijan has forgotten how they helped the Armenians, how they recognized the independence of some Ar-tsa-ha. How their citizens fought against us and much more. At the first opportunity ...................... we remember.

            The Russian Federation also remembers who gave refuge to Chechen fighters ... and who robbed the property of the KKFL of the USSR Navy in the 90s and shot at its sailors, warrant officers and officers ...
            God is not a mikishka, he sees a bump on whom ...
            They settled on our lands

            Like the Abkhaz and Ossetians also settled on your lands, I still remember when these peoples were part of the Republic of Ingushetia (earlier than the Georgians) there was no Azerbaijan in nature then, there was Persia, but there was no Azerbaijan ... , where "Great Armenia" ends and where "Great Azerbaijan" begins, otherwise this nonsense will turn out, we have already sent comrades with "Great Turan" before you ...
            Believe me, we will never forget and at the first opportunity ................................. we know how to wait , I think you are convinced of this.

            What do you mean you know how, and we were convinced, you would still have been waiting for this coming, if not for the "Darkest" gave you the go-ahead with flags ...
            You will have to wait a long time until the Russian Federation collapses or Azerbaijan becomes part of the Russian Federation ... Although the "orphans" from Abkhazia and South Ossetia do not want to work, they are under the protection and tutelage of the Russian Federation, so I advise you to "understand and forgive" .. ..
            Do you think I need the faith of members of the forum?

            And you are an evil (forum member) ... "+" those who hate me put you ... suspecting that one of the "-" is mine ...
            Good night....
            1. Bat
              -1
              23 October 2021 21: 30
              Quote: Lara Croft
              By the way, I think the inhabitants of these republics are unlikely to regret not recognizing them, incl. some Azerbaijan

              They are to some kind of Azerbaijan, like from Siberia to the Moon) We will survive dear)

              Quote: Lara Croft
              The Russian Federation also remembers who gave shelter to the Chechen militants

              for that matter, Azerbaijan perfectly remembers January 90 and much more. It is not yet known who should get up in a pose more)

              Quote: Lara Croft
              Persia was, but Azerbaijan was not

              Persia was ruled by Azerbaijanis, although sometimes read the story) and for more than one year)

              Quote: Lara Croft
              You will have to wait a long time until the Russian Federation falls apart

              So they squeezed it all the same))) But say no, we are fluffy, the constitution)))

              Quote: Lara Croft
              will not fall apart or Azerbaijan will not become part of the Russian Federation

              Anything can happen, but I hope it won't. Nobody is immune from this. Even Tsar Nicholas and the communists thought everything is eternal ...........

              Quote: Lara Croft
              And you are an evil (forum member) ... "+" those who hate me put you ... suspecting that one of the "-" is mine ...

              I think someone still has a conscience) they love me here for more than 15 years) so as not to write, just a minus) there is an allergy to türks for like 15 years)
              1. -1
                23 October 2021 21: 47
                Quote: Yarasa
                They are to some Azerbaijan like from Siberia to the Moon)

                You shouldn't be so arrogant, but the republics are small both in terms of population and territory, but they have a strategic geographical location for the Russian Federation and the fact that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are located on their territory at their request is due to the clumsy policy of Georgia and the Empireists ...
                Persia was ruled by Azerbaijanis, although sometimes read the story) and for more than one year)

                I already heard this nonsense already here, it is interesting that the Persians themselves know about this ...
                So they squeezed it all the same)))

                Not at all. It's just that I clearly wrote in Russian that the Russian Federation is responsible for the security of the statehood of the Republic of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, respectively, anyone who comes to them, the Russian Federation knocks down their hooves, I seem to write everything intelligibly, and you all "turn on stupid", complain about good members of the forum ...
                I think someone still has a conscience) they love me here for more than 15 years) so as not to write, just a minus) there is an allergy to türks for like 15 years)

                Recently the site was celebrated for 10 years like, what 15 years? In the Russian Federation, all Muslim peoples are Turkic, and there are about 25 million of them, i.e. 1/5 of the population, only visiting Tajiks are not Turks ... troll again ...
                Actually, I thought you went to bed ...
        2. +3
          23 October 2021 23: 00
          No need to engage in demagoguery. You just have to go and see with your own eyes. An independent state, the Republic of Abkhazia, freedom of choice, the will of the people ... Personally, I remembered the chapter of the history textbook about the tribal system ...
          1. -1
            24 October 2021 09: 23
            Quote: bobba94
            No need to engage in demagoguery. You just have to go and see with your own eyes. An independent state, the Republic of Abkhazia, freedom of choice, the will of the people ... Personally, I remembered the chapter of the history textbook about the tribal system ...

            I remembered the chapter of the textbook on digging sticks. Republic of lazy people
    7. 0
      23 October 2021 17: 27
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The Turks will wring out Adjara from you

      Batumi Airport in Turkey is officially considered an internal ...
      1. Eli
        0
        23 October 2021 21: 44
        Batumi and Sukhumi, these cities were founded by the Turks at one time, even the name is Turkish .. Saakashvili was practically a pro-Turkish politician and their fierce supporter, in Minsk in 2010 he worked with the Turks, was very surprised when he learned that they are all with Georgian roots
  3. 0
    23 October 2021 14: 34
    ***
    "The sun for Georgia, and has long been rising from the north"

    Edward Shevardnadze

    (April 1971 XXIV Congress of the CPSU).

    -------------------------------------

    ... How, depressed by his crown,

    Such a king, in a certain year,

    I handed Russia my people.

    ---

    And God's grace has come down

    To Georgia! She bloomed

    Since then, in the shadow of their gardens,

    Without fear of enemies

    Beyond friendly bayonets ...

    ---

    M. Yu. Lermontov. Mtsyri.
    ***
  4. +2
    23 October 2021 14: 35
    The Turkish delegation is considering the capacity of the Tbilisi aircraft plant for the possible production of attack drones
    ... No wonder, they scoop up everything that is bad.
    1. +5
      23 October 2021 14: 41
      In the first photo, a lathe of the early 1970s, and a turner for 70 years already.
      1. +5
        23 October 2021 15: 11
        Quote: Aviator_
        In the first photo, a lathe of the early 1970s, and a turner for 70 years already.

        So I think what can interest the Turks in Georgia?
        highly qualified specialists?
        there are probably only a few of them, and even those are retired. for this you do not need to fence a garden. it is enough to offer them to come to work in Turkey.
        modern high-tech equipment?
        we understand that he has nowhere to come from. used mainly by the Soviet.
        what is this strange mess with this delegation?
        Are the Turks overwhelmed with orders and are they looking for a site to place new capacities? let's say. but what is the reason to invest in production on the territory of Georgia?
        1. -5
          23 October 2021 15: 17
          Quote: Flood
          but what is the reason to invest in production on the territory of Georgia?

          They grab whatever comes to hand. To then report to whoever needs it, about the crushing successes.
        2. +3
          23 October 2021 15: 46
          Probably, they will make some kind of joint production, where it will be difficult for the Kurds to get. And they will put their machines, and the hard workers will be delivered.
          1. 0
            23 October 2021 18: 44
            Quote: Aviator_
            they will put their machines, and the hard workers will be delivered.

            Yes, there are no machines, but there are no hard workers, if only for the first time there are ITR workers, the Plant is still in Tbilisi, there are enough local technical colleges and STUZs where you can train personnel for the renovated Plant ..., and at the Plant there will be automatic equipment everywhere, one stamping and assembly, electronic filling and engines from Turkey itself will be imported, the extra territory of the Plant can be spent on drink ...
            And old men with machine tools of the 70s will be thrown out of the plant ... you see, Israeli Jews are localizing the production of UAVs at the plant, even though the IRI is not far away ...
            The products of the Plant will cover the military needs, not only of Georgia, but also of Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Moldova, after all, they are all included in GUAM ...
        3. +1
          23 October 2021 21: 34
          Quote: Flood
          what is the reason to invest in production on the territory of Georgia?

          There will be no PRODUCTION. At best, an assembly from finished parts. And machines do not need and special qualifications, only a screwdriver and a wrench. Chimpanzees can be taught that.
      2. +1
        23 October 2021 15: 13
        Quote: Aviator_
        In the first photo, a lathe of the early 1970s, and a turner for 70 years already.

        I think this is the "Red Proletarian" of the year 67th ...
        1. +1
          23 October 2021 15: 49
          Me too. For experienced small-scale products (20-30 pieces), it will still work if the repair and maintenance is timely.
      3. -1
        23 October 2021 18: 36
        Quote: Aviator_
        In the first photo, a lathe of the early 1970s, and a turner for 70 years already.

        I think this is not the oldest machine, if once trophy machines were at AMO-ZIL in the 90s, then God himself ordered them to be there in Tbilisi ...
      4. +2
        24 October 2021 08: 16
        Quote: Aviator_
        In the first photo, a lathe of the early 1970s, and a turner for 70 years already.

        and at the gunpowder factory that exploded, the gunpowder was manually loaded with bags ... or "is it different?"
    2. 0
      23 October 2021 22: 27
      Aaa he what, still exists ??? No, what, really ??? Come on.....
  5. sen
    +4
    23 October 2021 14: 45
    In vain did the Georgians get in touch with the Turks. Have completely forgotten their history. Erdogan plans that the territory of Georgia will enter the great Turan, only Georgians will not be there.
    1. +2
      23 October 2021 14: 52
      Quote: sen
      the territory of Georgia will enter the great Turan

      80% of Georgians agree to become Muslims, just not to be with Russia ... fool
      1. -3
        23 October 2021 15: 28
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        80% of Georgians agree to become Muslims, just not to be with Russia ...

        A source?
        Is there really some article in which once, somewhere, a single Georgian expressed himself in this way?
        Well, of course! It's true! This is true! And who doubts, that troll is on the paycheck, right?
        1. -1
          23 October 2021 19: 23
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          It's true! This is true! And who doubts, that troll is on the paycheck, right?

          Yes, that's not the point. The plant itself begged for transformation, for this, as the author writes in the article
          и reprivatization subordinate to the Georgian Ministry of Defense

          Accordingly, the costs of reprevatization will pay off, now it is being modernized from the budget of Turkey and the production of UAVs of various types will be localized and will be supplied to the "offended peoples" in the Russian Federation ... in the Transcaucasian region and the Black Sea countries ... the Georgians will profit, but the extra lands of the Plant will be drunk Turks ....
          By the way, there is still the 142nd tank repair plant in Georgia ...
          For example, the 142nd tank repair plant since 2007 together with the same "Elbit Systems" repairs T-72 tanks with simultaneous re-equipment in accordance with the T-72-SIM-I project. At the same time, the new electronics of the tanks comes from Israel.... However, after the events of August 2008, Georgia in fact found itself under an embargo. Despite the absence of real documents on this score, the overwhelming majority of countries and arms manufacturers refused to further cooperate with Tbilisi.

          https://topwar.ru/14609-gruzinskie-popytki-stroitelstva-oboronki.html
        2. +1
          24 October 2021 01: 58
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          troll on the paycheck, huh?

          Well, you appointed yourself ... I didn't say that ...
          PS And what is the salary? feel
      2. +2
        23 October 2021 16: 56
        In general, it does not matter what the Georgians agree on, it is important what the Turks have decided.
        And the Turks decided that not 80% but all 100 should become not Muslims, but fertilizers.
        I still think that the Russian tsar saved them in vain.
        1. +1
          24 October 2021 01: 43
          Quote: just explo
          in vain the Russian tsar saved them.

          The Georgians accuse Russia that the tsar came to save them very late, he was in no hurry, you see ... He was waiting on the golden porch for the Georgians to be cut!
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      4. 0
        23 October 2021 23: 05
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: sen
        the territory of Georgia will enter the great Turan

        80% of Georgians agree to become Muslims, fool

        It hurts however! laughing
    2. +1
      23 October 2021 19: 06
      Quote: sen
      In vain did the Georgians get in touch with the Turks.

      Who else could they contact? There are not too many investors from the EU and the USA ...
    3. Eli
      0
      23 October 2021 21: 48
      Erdogan himself is an ethnic Georgian, isn't that noticeable by his ambitions ??? ))
    4. -4
      24 October 2021 11: 03
      Georgia is almost already there, and Turkey is a steadily developing country, unlike us, we have breakthroughs and zeroing
  6. 0
    23 October 2021 15: 09
    Turkey is a country with a very successful (sometimes aggressive) foreign policy, and full support of those countries with whom it has good diplomatic relations. Turkey's partners (represented by small countries) feel that Turkey is at least trying to raise their problems at the international level and also bring positive trends to their economies. Also, Turkey does not bend under any other country while maintaining a balance in order to stay afloat and this quality, alas, is not inherent in 90% of world countries. Also, Turkey will allocate very big money (6-8 billion dollars every year) to support the poor in the poor and in particular African countries.
    Considering that Turkey's economy is developing in all possible directions, these factors are analyzed by the world community and countries that see oppression from superpowers are drawn to Turkey to develop their economies.
    Moreover, agrarian-tourist Georgia would not be hindered by Turkey's experience in developing its economy.
    1. +2
      23 October 2021 16: 59
      Tell us again about the Turkish economy plz.
      Especially about inflation and the lira exchange rate.
      1. -1
        23 October 2021 19: 30
        Quote: just EXPL
        Tell us again about the Turkish economy plz.
        Especially about inflation and the lira exchange rate.

        They took it and spoiled everything with their commentary, and I really believed the "political analysis" ...
      2. -1
        24 October 2021 11: 07
        And can we compare their resorts and ours and everything will become clear who is hu? Only the lowest composition of the security forces go to our seas because ministers and generals are resting in Monaco, you would go where you go, to the slums and lack of service in Sochi or 5 stars of Turkey, so now think for yourself what and how with the rates
  7. +1
    23 October 2021 15: 15
    In Soviet times, mostly Russians worked at the aircraft plant. Caucasians and factories are incompatible. Their quality is known, Kaz, Eraz, etc., plus at the aircraft plant there is still a military acceptance. Here, selling carnations or tomatoes is theirs! And by the way, why at 08 / 08/08 the plant was not smashed to pieces? And they did not enter Tbilisi after the call from Sarkozy? Does the GDP have strategic planning? ... a rhetorical question ...
    1. 0
      23 October 2021 19: 37
      Quote: alex aircraft
      In Soviet times, mostly Russians worked at the aircraft plant. Caucasians and factories are incompatible. Their quality is known-kaz, eraz

      We have heard a lot about the build quality at these "unique" enterprises .... and besides cabins and bodies there was nothing of their own, all the components came from the RSFSR ...
      By the way, why on 08/08/08 the plant was not smashed to pieces?

      At that time, you apparently did not have a "zombie box" and you still did not read the periodicals of those years ... the aircraft plant was bombed by Russian aviation ...
      and they did not enter Tbilisi after Sarkozy's call ?? does the GDP have strategic planning? ... a rhetorical question ...

      You yourself answered your own question. The Russian Federation did not enter Tbilisi, so as not to have in the future, in addition to parasites from Abkhazia and South Ossetia, also parasites from Georgia ...
      "This is our whole goal, this is our whole strategy" (c) "DMB" ....
  8. +2
    23 October 2021 15: 20
    first of all - on "Turkey belonging to the region".
    Adjara was practically given to the Turks, did they decide that it would not be enough for such an ally?
    The Turkish side is considering the industrial capabilities of the Georgian aircraft plant for the production of military aviation products
    The Turkish side is primarily considering how to get its hands on what is still left in Georgia. Well, let the Georgians soar in the clouds and dream of Turkish UAVs, which they might assemble with their own hands (?).
    1. Eli
      -2
      23 October 2021 22: 15
      Turks do not need this plant !!! The technologies are outdated, but the Turks really need archives with technical parameters, diagrams, drawings, experiments and adjustments of combat aviation aircraft of the times of the USSR. Access to the latest technologies to the Turks, through the efforts of their NATO cronies, are closed. Erdogan hates the Yankees and this whole Anglo-Saxon world with their Jewish allies, and this is mutual. It is clear to the idiot that the Anglic Masons wrote him the script of the "Third Reich" only with corrections for neosmonism , gentlemen and "noble" lords should not get dirty snow-white gloves, others will do everything for them, their task is to come in time to the division of material wealth. The point of finding the Turks in NATO is access to the latest military technologies, if this access is closed, then the Turks have nothing to do there, but what the Turks will do after leaving NATO is not entirely indifferent to Russia, apparently the Kremlin has its own views and plans for the Turkish direction , but that the Kremlin is not afraid of Erdogan, it is unambiguous, even more, he is considered as their "Trojan horse"
  9. -2
    23 October 2021 16: 40
    Well, all this fuss may simply end with the appearance of a Turkish air base in Georgia. that's all ...) And the production of drones, how to debug or calibrate .. is just a cover ..
    1. +1
      23 October 2021 19: 53
      Quote: Dikson
      Well, all this fuss may simply end with the appearance of a Turkish air base in Georgia. that's all ...) And the production of drones, how to debug or calibrate .. is just a cover ..

      Not at all. It does not interfere. VVB will appear in Vaziani (1st category airfield) keeping in suspense, incl. RF, and the 31st aircraft plant and 142nd tank repair plant in Tbilisi, why create production in an open field when there are industry enterprises with communications, logistics and developed infrastructure connected to them, and there will be no problems with recruiting local youth in unemployed Georgia. ..
      You look later, and in Poti naval base / PB of NATO countries will appear ..., and in the building of the former headquarters of the OGRVZ, some regional NATO command will appear ...
  10. +2
    23 October 2021 17: 24
    Well, if the Georgians collect drones in the same quality as Colchis did, then the flag will be in their hands - a third will clearly not reach the target for technical reasons.
  11. -4
    23 October 2021 19: 06
    The one who assimilates the heritage of the USSR is the legal successor of the USSR.
    1. 0
      23 October 2021 20: 44
      Quote: iouris
      The one who assimilates the heritage of the USSR is the legal successor of the USSR.

      And what about the accounts payable of the USSR, can only the former RSFSR "master" it?
  12. 0
    23 October 2021 19: 30
    Looking for new technologies? Are they there or are they taking away specialists?
  13. -3
    23 October 2021 23: 39
    Another bayraktar and maybe something more serious will be so the Turks covered the Caspian
  14. 0
    24 October 2021 11: 32
    I wonder what these gestures are for. Either Ukraine is becoming an unreliable assistant, or it is necessary to expand its capacities, and it is too expensive to do on its territory "from scratch" (and they are not very good with finances), so they are looking for where ready-made capacities can be used.
  15. -2
    24 October 2021 12: 19
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Build ... build production ... UAV won't help you anyway. And the Turks will squeeze Adjara away from you ... quietly, gently, almost imperceptibly ... They know what they are doing.

    As they say, a holy place is never empty. Russia at one time "left" from Adjara, and then from all of Georgia (there is a separate situation with Abkhazia and South Ossetia). Others "entered", why be surprised ?! As for the press, it's a moot point, time will tell ...
  16. -2
    24 October 2021 12: 30
    Quote: Flood
    Quote: Aviator_
    In the first photo, a lathe of the early 1970s, and a turner for 70 years already.

    So I think what can interest the Turks in Georgia?
    highly qualified specialists?
    there are probably only a few of them, and even those are retired. for this you do not need to fence a garden. it is enough to offer them to come to work in Turkey.
    modern high-tech equipment?
    we understand that he has nowhere to come from. used mainly by the Soviet.
    what is this strange mess with this delegation?
    Are the Turks overwhelmed with orders and are they looking for a site to place new capacities? let's say. but what is the reason to invest in production on the territory of Georgia?

    Presumably, the Turks are not fools and are not going to start high-tech operations there. At least at the initial stage, local forces can only assemble from ready-made units under the control of Turkish process engineers. And then according to the situation ...
  17. 0
    24 October 2021 17: 33
    Does Tbilisi have capacities ??? Surprised. )))
  18. 0
    26 October 2021 07: 26
    Interestingly, in Russia in some museum or in a private collection there is "Colchis"? On the run? Would give Erdogan a test drive ...
    1. 0
      26 October 2021 14: 08
      I wonder what you think is "cooler": Yeraz or Colchis?

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