Israeli Finance Minister: Conflict with Iran is only a matter of time

_{Right - Avigdor Lieberman}

Avigdor Lieberman, who has already changed several seats in different parts of the Israeli government, spoke on the issue of Iran's nuclear program. Former Minister of Transport, Defense, Foreign Affairs, Infrastructure of Israel, now serving as head of the Ministry of Finance, said that the conflict with Iran is "just a matter of time."

Lieberman in an interview with Israeli journalists:

I want to say that no diplomatic steps will stop Iran, will not stop its nuclear program.
According to Avigdor Lieberman, there is a clear example in the world. And this example is North Korea.

The head of the Israeli finance ministry further referred to stories, pointing out that Hitler wrote his book in 1923 and then seized power.

Lieberman:

That is why the Jewish people should not live in illusions.

Thus, Lieberman actually put a sign of identity between today's Iran and Nazi Germany.

Lieberman:

We must understand that their main goal is the destruction of Israel. They themselves talk about it. Therefore, the conflict is inevitable, it is only a matter of time.

Lieberman, referring to Israel's military budget, said that many in the country were surprised that this budget has grown significantly.

Israeli Finance Minister:

But money should help to strengthen, acquire the latest systems. This money will also go to the north defense program.

Recall that at one time Israel welcomed the US withdrawal from the so-called "nuclear deal" with Tehran. Israel said that Iran allegedly uses the deal as a screen to create a nuclear missile arsenal. However, after the US withdrew from the deal, judging by this logic, Tehran began to create its nuclear missile arsenal without any screen, increasing the percentage of uranium enrichment.

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[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Finches

And it was not necessary to kill Christ ...

What does the Persians care about Christ?

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Duc Iyisus Iosifovich copied from theirs Zarathustra!

[bayard]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

Duc Iyisus Iosifovich copied from theirs Zarathustra!

This is so, but according to the Quran, Isa and Miriam (Jesus and Mary are his mother) are their righteous and prophets ... But Muhammad, of course, is more correct.
Actually, all these religious fairy tales from the pen of one "Charles Perot" - a single tracing paper for "divide and rule."

[Thrifty]

Impunity strikes permissiveness! To begin with, Lieberman needs to remember that Israel has nuclear weapons, which is why the same Persians are not happy! It is foolish to drive them into a corner, because then Israel will receive a response in the form of a semi-handicraft, albeit a nuclear bomb from Iran, and perhaps far from one! That is, Lieberman directly pointed to the unwillingness of the Israeli military elite to negotiate with the Persians, or to his inability to speak the language of words and not threats with the Persians.

[KAV]

Quote: Thrifty

That is, Lieberman directly pointed out the unwillingness of the Israeli military elite to negotiate with the Persians.

And here it would be interesting to find out why Israel categorically does not want negotiations with Iran? Recently, I have a stable feeling that it is Israel that is being hindered by all the neighboring countries. Whoever is nearby, Israel reacts extremely negatively to all their desires, needs, vital necessities, efforts, successes, etc. This raises the question: who gave Israel the right to live and rule the east alone? Something ambitions incompatible with the possibilities ... Even, somehow strange ... The people who were saved from genocide are engaged in the same genocide in their region? But...

[Non-fighter]

Um ... If my memory serves me correctly, the state of Israel was founded according to the UN resolution of 1948, it seems, and at the same time its borders were determined. Now compare those borders of Israel and those that are now.

[Black5Raven]

Quote: Not the fighter

Um ... If my memory serves me, the state of Israel was founded according to the UN resolution of 1948, it seems, and at the same time its borders were determined.

And my memory does not remember the UN resolution that the Arabs would start a war against them in 1948.
Vae victis, winner takes it all The Jews were not the first to attack.

[Avior]

why is Israel categorically reluctant to negotiate with Iran?

Excuse me, but what is the subject of such negotiations? What exactly to talk about?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Avior

Excuse me, but what is the subject of such negotiations?

well, under the shah they were friends
in the midst of the Yom Kippur War, he handed over 25 Phantom aircraft to the Jewish state and did not block oil supplies
they had a bunch of military projects, including missile ones.
Exports from Israel to Iran are more than to Turkey.

Quote: Avior

What exactly to talk about?

weapons - oil, trade - Syria

[Avior]

Unclear

weapons - oil, trade - Syria

What does it mean? Israel does not buy or sell Iran weapons, oil and trade - what to negotiate?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

well, under the shah they were friends

they bought oil, sold weapons, carried out military development together, and crushed the Iraqis.
About this and agree

[Volt]

"The people who were saved from genocide are engaged in the same genocide in their own"
And therefore, like the previous people of Germany, they will be forced to peace, and will fall under the external control of the same Iran, and the Americans will leave the arena of history as a country that tried to become a "hegemon"

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Thrifty

It's foolish to corner them

That is, if a local gopnik regularly threatens you to stab you and demonstratively brandishes a knife to you, in a hanging yard, you will take the position of a patient, and will humbly wait for death, so as not to "drive him into a corner"?
In my opinion, this is already too much tolerance.

Quote: Thrifty

Lieberman directly pointed out the unwillingness of the Israeli military elite to negotiate with the Persians

This is a blatant manipulation of facts, and the substitution of a cause for an effect.
And the fact is that it is Iran that is not ready for any dialogue in principle with "Zionist education".
Therefore, nothing depends on the position of Israel on this issue, on the word at all. Lieberman's position is a reaction to Iran's position, not the other way around.

Let me remind you that it was in Iran that a law was passed declaring the destruction of Israel. Iran nafig did not surrender to Israel. It is a fact.

So save your anti-Semitic demagogy for the Sunday performances at Sterneckerbräu.

[Vissarion Golubov]

Not "threatens," but threatens.

[knn54]

Someone about what, and Israel about Iran.

[Alex777]

Yes. Interesting conversation with the Israeli Prime Minister at
GDP is to come. It is approximately clear what will be discussed.
The Iranian Defense Minister has already arrived for the planes.
Now the question is, what are we going to exchange for ...

[tralflot1832]

Something today the President in Krasnaya Polyana, at the Valdai, got into a conversation. I never cease to be surprised.

[Alex777]

But we must win. Nowhere to retreat.
Launch SP-2 and decide with Ukraine.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex777

Yes. Interesting conversation with the Israeli Prime Minister at
GDP is to come.

The beginning is already intriguing: Putin invited Bennett to his home "for a glass of whiskey."

http://go.newsfusion.com/il_news_russian/item/14079128

[Alex777]

Quote: And Us Rat

The beginning is already intriguing: Putin invited Bennett to his home "for a glass of whiskey."

Yes. For 5 hours, a lot of things could or needed to be ground.

It should be noted that the talks between Putin and Bennett dragged on, and instead of the planned two hours, the heads of the two states talked for five hours. As a result the Israeli delegation did not have time to return home before Shabbat and stayed in Sochi until the end of Saturday

And after that there is also an invitation to go home ...

Therefore, Putin's unexpected offer to continue the conversation in his personal residence, and then at home, should be regarded as a special personal gesture on the part of the Russian president. Especially after inviting the Israeli prime minister for a glass of whiskey at home, Putin clarified that he usually does not practice with other world leaders. "

Iran is thinking ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex777

Yes. For 5 hours, a lot of things could or needed to be ground.

It is especially amusing how many here scoffed that everything is tied to the personal relationship between Putin and Bibi, and that now everything will become bad, but it’s how it turned out.
I am amazed by the moss-covered anti-Semitic rhetoric of a significant part of the forum, given that it has detached from reality and completely contradicts the official position of the Kremlin. Truly, anti-Semitism and brains are incompatible concepts.
All yesterday's wars and neo-imperial ambitions keep them awake, but in reality today the fate of BV is being decided like this, at Putin's house, with an Israeli PM over a glass of whiskey.
Ayatollah has a problem, for them whiskey is haram.

[Alex777]

VVP is an experienced master in international affairs.
And the current situation requires unexpected moves.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: knn54

Someone about what, and Israel about Iran.

And about Hitler:

pointing out that Hitler wrote his book in 1923 and then seized power

But the Fuehrer did not have a bomb, so to complete the odious image, you need someone similar (not externally), totalitarian, but with a bomb .... Oh, yes!

there is a good example in the world. And this example is North Korea.

full house.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

But the Fuehrer had no bomb

But there was exactly the same fix idea, to make the planet judenfrei. How it ended - everyone knows very well.
Are you proposing to sit and wait for the Persians to move from words to deeds?
Like "maybe he'll carry it over"?

[Kuroneko]

Well, if anyone does not know, the Koran recognizes Christ as at least a prophet. Although in general the New Testament and rejects.

[teptyar]

not a minimum, but just like that - by the Prophet.

[Kayala]

Do not figs petty dirty tricks on Iran, and then shout "and we are for what?" Who is bombing whose objects, not Israel for an hour? So do not be surprised when the answer arrives.

PS I'm waiting for a bunch of minuses from former non-citizens of the Russian Federation and their sympathizers.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Since the Persians talk about it, then they will definitely do it ... The fat man's logic is lame. Not necessarily.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

The fat man's logic is lame. Not necessarily.

Would you bet your life on "maybe it will blow"?
So with the logic of the fat man all the rules.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Kayala

Do not figs petty mischief to Iran

Well, you would not, as you put it, "dirty" someone who has one of the priority tasks - the destruction of your country)

Quote: Kayala

So do not be surprised when the answer arrives.

I think Jews never rule out this possibility.

[KAV]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Well, you would not, as you put it, "dirty" someone who has one of the priority tasks - the destruction of your country)

Let's first clarify who wants whose death initially? And only then we will understand the consequences ...

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

I think Jews never rule out this possibility.

Possibility of what? Answers? Well, then, a logical question: if the Jews do not exclude the possibility of retaliation, does this mean that there will be retaliation for their aggressive actions? Then what to talk about? Do not meddle - there will be no response. Not? So you weren't taught to meditate?

[Avior]

Let's first clarify who wants whose death initially?

what do you mean?

[Black5Raven]

Quote: Avior

what do you mean?

Bloody world Zionism longs for the destruction of a defenseless, peaceful Islamic state. Which clearly does not set as its goal the complete destruction of Israel and does not explicitly declare it publicly.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: KAV

Let's first clarify who wants whose death initially?

Easily.
The destruction of Israel was declared by Khomeni, immediately after the "Islamic revolution", as one of the goals of this revolution.
Khomeini argued that Israel, which lies at the heart of the Islamic world, is the most important obstacle to the creation of a global Islamic state. And he formulated the strategic task of combating it as "the liberation of Jerusalem"
https://interaffairs.ru/news/show/26478

A timer was set in the center of Tehran, counting down the days until the destruction of Israel
https://nashe.orbita.co.il/read/68464

Iran will pass a law to destroy Israel by 2041.
https://mignews.com/news/arabisrael/iran-primet-zakon-ob-unichtozhenii-izrailia-do-2041-goda.html

Iranian Supreme Leader's spokesman calls for the elimination of Israel.
https://detaly.co.il/predstavitel-verhovnogo-lidera-irana-prizyvaet-k-likvidatsii-izrailya/

Iran calls Israel "cancer created by the West"
https://www.vesti.ru/article/1500645

The list goes on until the next coming.

Quote: KAV

Do not meddle - there will be no response. Not? So you weren't taught to meditate?

Ayatollah apparently not.
After all, it is they who climb to Israel with fanatical stubbornness.
So they get a response, everything is natural.
So tie it up with blatant falsification of facts.

[Vissarion Golubov]

Something Il fidgeted. Again to Moscow ... And the voices that were pouring mud at Russia died down. Don't worry guys, no technology that Arrow can pull against will transfer ...

[Vissarion Golubov]

Rather, in Sochi ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kayala

PS I'm waiting for a bunch of minuses from former non-citizens of the Russian Federation and their sympathizers.

They have already thrown bile.

[Pickles Sunset]

Quote: Kayala

Do not figs petty dirty tricks on Iran, and then shout "and we are for what?"

Before making such "smart" statements, it would be nice to read the history. And history says that Iran in 1992,1993-XNUMX blew up the Israeli consulate and the Israeli community center in Buenos Aires with hundreds of victims, and only after that Israel began what to do with Iranian terrorists. The current Iranian Minister of Defense is exactly the one who planned these terrorist attacks, and at the moment is on the wanted list of Interpol as a dangerous terrorist. He is also looking for the Argentine Themis on the same occasion.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Kayala

Do not figs petty dirty tricks on Iran, and then shout "and we are for what?"

This is a lecimeric manipulation of facts, and an attempt to portray the aggressor as a victim.
Iran declared the destruction of Israel and not vice versa. And you have to answer for the market.

[sidoroff]

at the request of the workers, he was resurrected on the third day like Jon Snow (aka Aegon Targaryen).

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: sidoroff

at the request of the workers, he was resurrected on the third day like Jon Snow (aka Aegon Targaryen).

What a life-giving referendum does ...

[Keyser soze]

there was no need to kill Christ ...

You have to read ... Specifically, he was killed by a Roman. And at the time of the murder, there was still the head of the Esian sect. Then he rose to God. Thanks be to Paul, who made the cult not only for the Jews. In general, the Bible is lapped with the mythof Mithra and half of the Assyrian cult.
Outcome - Religion is opium for the peoples.

[Krasnodar]

Let's drink to the academic study of theology!
Lieberman got fat again - at one time, thanks to tennis, he acquired a good athletic form

[tralflot1832]

And Lot's wife was just not lucky!

[Krasnodar]

Pillar of salt
Lot was also unlucky with his daughters

[Thrifty]

Krasnodar - so unlucky? Or do you think that he could not profitably realize such an amount of free salt? ??

[Krasnodar]

His daughters got him drunk and got to know him - in the Biblical sense of the word. Reread the Old Testament.

[Thrifty]

Krasnodar - why should I read, what I myself dictated ! Oh, I got burned inadvertently !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

Reread the Old Testament.

Orthodox do not honor the Old Testament.

[Krasnodar]

Orthodox do not honor the Old Testament.

Considering that the messianic prophecy justifying the coming of Christ is taken precisely from the Old Testament, then we more than honor

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

Considering that the messianic prophecy justifying the coming of Christ is taken precisely from the Old Testament

It is precisely this part that raises doubts, as everything does not correspond to understanding. It seems that something was not finalized, or simply did not come down to our times.

[Krasnodar]

What doubts? There is a Jewish prophecy about the Messiah. Christians believe that the Mission is Jesus, who died, but was resurrected and will come a second time, Jews believe that this is not so. This is the main difference between the two religions, Old Testament Jewish and New Testament Christian. The rest was done.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

What doubts? There is a Jewish prophecy about the Messiah.

Well, why should I personally believe this? I do not trust everything with great distrust, which was a very long time ago, and which cannot be confirmed.

[Krasnodar]

Does someone make you?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

Does someone make you?

Nobody forces me, especially since my one great-grandfather was Orthodox, and the other Catholic, I listened to them, and I believe in the Christian faith, but I am very critical of "fairy tales" since childhood.

[Krasnodar]

Like most people

[tralflot1832]

And what about them, did they really marry Arabs! Something I forgot the plot of this fairy tale.

[Krasnodar]

At that time there was no smell of Arabs in these places, until the 7th century AD. Dad got drunk and ... learned in the biblical sense of the word. Incest

[tralflot1832]

It would be better then to marry the Sumerians, in the sense of the sea diggers.

[Krasnodar]

But they were already - true, real. Our forefather Abraham from those parts, the city of Urra, near the present Basra

[Thrifty]

Krasnodar, that is, Abraham was in command of an artel're coming out-morekopov? ??

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Thrifty

Krasnodar, that is, Abraham was in command of an artel're coming out-morekopov? ??

if only via satellite communication ... or Skype

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

if only via satellite communication ... or Skype

Only in this way, direct contact with seafarers is life-threatening.

[Keyser soze]

the city of Urra, near the present Basra

Or as it was also called - Ur of the Chaldees ...

[Krasnodar]

Exactly

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Or as it was also called - Ur of the Chaldees.

And I still thought it was Ukrohaldeysky.

[Thrifty]

Krasnodar - you were looking for them badly, they were hiding behind the seventh dune .

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Krasnodar

Dad got drunk and ... learned in the biblical sense of the word. Incest

Well, that also makes sense.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

I have forgotten the plot from this fairy tale.

Well, according to their tale, everything is in chocolate, but we have a constant litigation.

[nnm]

Rather, they were not lucky with such a father.

[Krasnodar]

According to the Old Testament, this was their initiative

[nnm]

Well, of course .... there were no women among its authors)))

[tralflot1832]

Are you sure that only 4 bibles are recognized as canonical, and the rest are what to do with them.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: tralflot1832

Are you sure that only 4 bibles are recognized as canonical, and the rest are what to do with them.

What are the "4 Canonical Bibles"? o_O There are "canonical books of the Bible", but there are actually much more of them, as many as four dozen in the Old Testament and three dozen in the New.

[tralflot1832]

The clergy gathered in Rome in the Middle Ages, and they decided 4 bibles close to canonical, there are few scenes of worldly life, and the rest are apocrypha, non-canonical books.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: tralflot1832

The clergy gathered in Rome in the Middle Ages, and they decided 4 bibles close to canonical, there are few scenes of worldly life, and the rest are apocrypha, non-canonical books.

Here I wanted to ask my question again, but then I thought about it and did not. "The Bible", just like that, with the title, this is the "Book", which, as it were, emphasizes, in fact, a collection of texts by various authors and times, called in turn "books". So, even if we take into account the big stretch and some tradition, then four "books": the book of Samuel, the book of Kings, the book of Ezra-Nehemiah and the book of the Chronicles could be in the Tanakh. But wi vit is not evgey? In general, there are at least 39 of them in the NW.

[tralflot1832]

And who empowered mortals to decide where the truth is.

[Aleksandre]

Quote: tralflot1832

And who empowered mortals to decide where the truth is.

And anyone of their mortals in general can clearly substantiate that the Bible is the truth, and not many centuries of fake? After all, its authority is just an assumption about the existence of Gd, but if there is no Gd, then the Bible is just the most ancient book (like this, with a small one), (by the way, the first printed book is also a reference ), filled with myths and legends of not yet too educated peoples, but by no means the ultimate truth.

[tralflot1832]

If you pick it, the Bible is not the oldest book. For me, the Bible is a fairy tale. But there is nowhere to be promoted.

[Krasnodar]

The clergy gathered in Rome in the Middle Ages, and they decided 4 bibles close to canonical, there are few scenes of worldly life, and the rest are apocrypha, non-canonical books.

In Constantinople, at the Council of Nicaea, the decisions were about the New Testament.

[Krasnodar]

Are you sure that only 4 bibles are recognized as canonical, and the rest are what to do with them.

You mean the gospel

[tihonmarine]

Quote: nnm

Well, of course .... there were no women among its authors)))

If you look for a long time, then they can find in women.

[tralflot1832]

I don’t remember the name of the German professor, but I remember his words. There is so much money spinning on religion, they will find anything for this business in Israel.

[Avior]

Well, Lot is good too! Travelers came, whom he sees for the first time, and is already ready to offer their virgin daughters to the crowd instead of strangers (however, he could be mistaken about virgins, fathers, unlike mothers, quite often remain in the dark about this :))).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmDyDgMs_do

[Krasnodar]

Lot lived according to Sadomov-Gamor concepts))

[Thrifty]

Petrosyan, that is, Krasnodar , the matter is not in the weight of the Doberman, that is, the Lieberman, but in his political views. He clearly wants war, he thinks that the Promised Land together with the Persians will jokingly multiply by zero! Only, the Yankees have shown themselves in Afghanistan, they are masters of running, and your country will not benefit from radiation either! As they say, a bad peace is better than a good war! So live yourself peacefully! !!

[Krasnodar]

The Doberman is still a Soviet first-class sambo champion and a second-class boxer, he became a dollar multimillionaire on his own - I don't like him, but he deserves respect.
Regarding Iran - they had an electronic watch at one time - how much time is left before the destruction of Israel, which, according to Khomeini, is one of the tasks of the Islamic revolution. Therefore, if the Persians, an intelligent people, are not averse to vegetating under the rule of bearded uncles in dresses as a third world country, this is their own business, but arming Hamas and Hezbollah one must understand that a gunboat can come and smash the huts of the Leader and the Shaman to hell. Nobody is going to occupy them - they live as they want.

[Thrifty]

Krasnodar - so you put a clock on the border, indicating in the centuries, the same figure approach the question with humor, you know how not only to light a fire, but also how to prevent it from becoming a conflagration in your house! !!

[Krasnodar]

When on Iranian money multiple launch rocket systems are figuring on your residential development - it's no laughing matter

[Thrifty]

Krasnodar - and seriously, did you think about establishing civilized relations with Iran? Or, so the "axiom" presses that the Persians in slender crowds, under the command of the Ayatollahs, will go against you tomorrow in a war, which they also do not need for good, for nothing ???

[sidoroff]

"all that remains is to persuade the princess." Israel already had excellent relations with Iran. until, instead of Iran, it turned out
IRI.

[Thrifty]

Sidorov - time seems to be on your side, and hope always dies out last. The Persians are in suicide war, they have a weak economy, and there are "armed opponents" all around in the person of not only you, but also the Saudis, Turks, Azerbaijanis ... So for them the war is the end of the country!

[sidoroff]

what economy? the Islamic revolution first of all. on a global scale. even without Stalin's troubles about one separately
taken country.
permanent war with Israel makes it possible to declare oneself as a leader in the Islamic world. and all Muslims who disagree
with this shove the accomplices of the Zionists. what, in fact, is happening in the relations of Iran with Azerbaijan, Turkey, the Saudis ..

[Aleksandre]

Quote: sidoroff

Israel already had excellent relations with Iran. until Iran was replaced by Iran.

Israel had the best relations with Iran during the reign of the puppet Shah Pahlavi ... That's all.

Quote: Thrifty

Krasnodar - and seriously, did you think about establishing civilized relations with Iran?

Explain, preferably briefly and on your fingers, how you can "establish a civilized relationship" with someone who desires your death so much that he cannot even plov?

[sidoroff]

you think that it is necessary to count from the Babylonian captivity. there Mordechai, Esther, Haman on the tree ..?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Thrifty

Krasnodar - and seriously, did you think about establishing civilized relations with Iran?

Prior to the arrival of the Ayatollahs, Israel lived with Iran in friendship and harmony.
Iran traded well with Israel, received advanced agricultural technologies from it, Israeli architects designed a lot for Iran, especially after the earthquakes of 1960 and 1962, Iranian students studied in Israel.
The Israelis were building entire areas in other regions of Iran.
Thus, in the 1970s, in the Iranian port cities of Bandar Abbas and Bushir, as well as on the island of Khark, the Israeli company RASCO, with the participation of the Iranian counterparty Khadish, led a project commissioned by the Iranian Navy. The construction was carried out by the Israeli architect Dan Eitan and included 12 thousand housing units and all the related infrastructure.
In the suburbs of Tehran, the Center for Israeli Achievements in Medicine and Pharmacology was opened, where Israeli doctors trained locals, and with the help of Israeli dentist Ephraim Shaki, a dentistry center was created in Shiraz (later - the base for the country's first university department of dental diseases).
Tankers from Iran arrived at the Israeli port of Eilat, and through a special pipeline the oil was transported to the city of Ashdod on the Mediterranean coast, then, it was transported to Europe. This is instead of using Suez or plodding around Africa.
The Ayatollahs came to power and began to dog themselves tighter.
Israel has no common borders with Iran, there are no territorial or economic claims. And the Iranians only insist that Israel should be destroyed. So that's it, from the highest stands and declare. They feed and arm all sorts of scoundrels and incite them against Israel.
They already explained this and that that they didn't want to drive against Israel, but apparently they didn't get it. What should I do? Turn their threats into a joke? Beg them? How do you order to negotiate with them?

[Krasnodar]

Krasnodar - and seriously, did you think about establishing civilized relations with Iran?

They were until 1979 officially and continued until 1981 behind the scenes.

Or, so the "axiom" presses that the Persians in slender crowds, under the command of the Ayatollahs, will go tomorrow against you in a war, which they also do not need for nothing

Well, if, in the current disastrous state of the economy, they are spending huge amounts of money on Hamas and Hezbollah, then what conclusions can we come to?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Thrifty

Krasnodar - and seriously, did you think about establishing civilized relations with Iran?

Ask this question to the Persians.
Two are needed for tango.

[Aviator_]

Doberman is also a Soviet first-class sambo champion and a second-class holder in boxing,

Did Dodik Rudman perform a category in sambo (was there such a club "Sambo-70" or 68?)? At his current age, apart from old sports injuries, there is nothing left - the law of nature. Any technique on any joint will already be painful. By the way, is Rudman still alive?

[Tony fergusson]

Rudman is still alive

[Aviator_]

I'm glad for him. In his youth, on an open carpet, he had to deal with his pupils. They tried not to forgive the slightest mistake, such a tactic.

[Tony fergusson]

The strongest sambo school in the world

[Aviator_]

The strongest sambo school in the world

One of. Still, working on counterattacks, from defense, is not for everybody. Who will do it. And the coach is really great.

[Tony fergusson]

He is the founder of this school
There are many other coaches

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Aviator_

Did Dodik Rudman perform the category in sambo (was there such a club "Sambo-70" or 68?)? At his current age, apart from old sports injuries, there is nothing left - the law of nature. Any technique on any joint will already be painful. By the way, is Rudman still alive?

Yes, lives in the Russian Federation
Now it is clear that he can hit a deuce and get through without problems, but this is now))

[teptyar]

And Sambo 70 exists! Rudman develops sambo in the USA. even some open championships are held)

[Aviator_]

Yes, lives in the Russian Federation

Rudman develops sambo in the USA. even some open championships are held)

So where is he, in the Russian Federation or in the USA?

[teptyar]

In 2009, he brought shtatovites to the World SAMBO Championships among veterans in Kaunas. It seems to be there and continues to live and work

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Aviator_

Yes, lives in the Russian Federation

Rudman develops sambo in the USA. even some open championships are held)

So where is he, in the Russian Federation or in the USA?

I read that in Russia

[Flooding]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Specifically, he was killed by a Roman

Matthew 27:20. But the chief priests and elders stirred up the people to ask Barabbas and to destroy Jesus.

Matthew 27:21. Then the governor asked them: which of the two do you want me to release to you? They said: Barabbas.

Matthew 27:22. Pilate tells them: what will I do to Jesus, called Christ? They all say to him: Let him be crucified.

Matthew 27:23. The ruler said: what evil did he do? But they shouted even harder: let him be crucified.

Do you mean that a group of Jews killed by someone else's hands?

[Thrifty]

Navodlom, and in your opinion, he was killed by a group of members of the forum from the topvar? ?? It also clearly states that the crowd chanted "puck-puck", that is, "rasspit him" !!!

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

in your opinion, he was killed by a group of members of the forum from the topvar?

read in the header of my comment a quote from a comrade to whom I oppose.
and then, perhaps, your question will resolve

[Thrifty]

Navodlom - I am writing about this that alternatives to Kaif and the crowd incited by him to resolve the issue, except for the crucifixion of Christ, did not try to find! !!

[Flooding]

it means I didn't understand your message

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Finches

And it was not necessary to kill Christ ...

Lovely.

[Thrifty]

Aron, how could you manage with public censure and deportation, and you nailed him in the literal sense of the word - to the cross! !! Kaifa and his ilk with one act drastically changed the course of history! It doesn't matter what they wanted, but it turned out to be CHRISTIANITY! !!

[Ross xnumx]

Israeli Finance Minister: Conflict with Iran is only a matter of time

The most disgusting quality in people is that they perfectly understand what they are doing, but they continue ...
It is more appropriate to ask: "In the countries surrounding Israel, there are those who want to open friendly hugs, or is it a matter of time?"

[Thrifty]

Ross42 - Lieberman's overconfidence will not benefit all Israelis. It's time to do-re-li-bohr-berman and resign. And that is clearly cerebral fatigue in a person, fancies himself a demigod. ...

[Andrey Moskvin]

Does Lieberman quote himself about Korea in an interview? Modest.

[Vitaly gusin]

Why is it necessary to throw out the most important thing from the speech?
The head of the Israeli finance ministry further referred to history, pointing out that Hitler wrote his book in 1923 and then seized power.

But there is a continuation that the author forgot to write:
"This is a problem of the international community, but first of all ours, because they [Iran] stated that their policy was to destroy Israel, and they really mean it. "
And now, the continuation is also clear.
Lieberman:
That is why the Jewish people should not live in illusions.
And this is nothing new, the leadership of Israel declares this with a loud voice from all the world's tribunes.
And tomorrow, 22/10/21, the Prime Minister of Israel will speak with V.V. Putin in Sochi.

[Thrifty]

Vitaly, have you been listening to these statements from the Ayatollah, if not for decades? ?? And, is your country still safe and sound? So, let them continue to say, from the concussion of the air there you have hurricanes at least, it seems, they have never happened yet! Or I'm wrong? ??

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Thrifty

Or I'm wrong? ??

Yes, you are mistaken, without nuclear weapons they can talk for another 1000 years, for this they need this weapon.

[Thrifty]

Vitaly, a country under sanctions for decades, is not up to the war for good, because any major conflict could lead to the collapse of Iran. Don't forget the millions of ethnic Azerbaijanis living there. This is a factor in inhibiting Ayatollah aggression!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Thrifty

This is a factor in inhibiting Ayatollah aggression!

But in promoting the development of nuclear weapons, this does not interfere in any way, we see this on the example of the DPRK.
And in history there were two examples of Israel's destruction of nuclear facilities, which over time confirmed the correctness of this decision.

[Thrifty]

Vitaly, it's so good that they didn't have a nuclear catastrophe for this. Otherwise, many would have received radiation! And, now everything is much more complicated, you do not even know approximately the presence and quantity of nuclear ammunition from the Persians. You can't just bomb it, a radioactive response will arrive. So, you need patience and negotiate!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Thrifty

Otherwise, many would have received radiation!

You are right, if the reactors remained in Iraq and Syria, they would be used both against the Americans and against the Russians. And that would be a disaster.

Quote: Thrifty

And, now everything is much more complicated, you do not even know approximately the presence and quantity of nuclear weapons in the Persians.

Of course, I don’t know, but those who are supposed to know the number and places where and what and how much.

Quote: Thrifty

So, you need patience and negotiate!

With whom? They don't even mention the name of the state (Israel).
They come up with any klikuhi, cancerous tumor on BV, Zionist education, etc.

[D16]

And in history there were two examples of Israel's destruction of nuclear facilities, which over time confirmed the correctness of this decision.

Can you tell us more about the correctness of the decision? What are the implications of this decision for Iraq and Syria?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: D16

Can you tell us more about the correctness of the decision?

1. These reactors in Iraq and Syria were built in the same way as they are doing today in Iran, with the aim of destroying Israel. By destroying the reactors, this danger was eliminated.
You know what these countries represent today.
2. In the presence of nuclear weapons in Iraq, during Operation Desert Storm, Saddam Hussein would have used this weapon against the Americans. and used chemical weapons in the Iran-Iraq war
Instead of the nuclear weapons that Israel did not allow him to produce, they developed a program for the production of chemical weapons, called "Project 922".
3. In Syria, a nuclear reactor was built in the province of Deir ez-Zor, if you look at the map, you will understand that in the beginning there was an igil, they would not fail to use it against the Russians, and today this area is extremely not calm and no doubt this is a weapon who nor be applied later.

[D16]

1. Well this is understandable
2. If there were nuclear weapons in Iraq, there would be no Desert Storm. Nobody touches S. Korea just like nowadays.
3. Don't torment the owl. The bird hurts ... First, remember when and where ISIS appeared. The reactor was bombed in 2007. And at the heart of the ISIS were Saddam's soldiers who were left without work. Tell me why?
In the province of Deir ez Zor, everything would bloom and smell. And there would be no war.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: D16

The reactor was bombed in 2007.

June 8, 1981-years, the Israeli government officially announced that the reactor was bombed by its planes.
This is the stove from which you have everything out of line, and therefore, I'm sorry, everything else is not subject to comment.

[D16]

On June 8, 1981, the Israeli government officially announced that the reactor had been bombed by its planes.

Come on? In point 3 you wrote about Syria. And I answered you about her:
"The reactor was bombed in 2007." https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-43482443
So the stove is in my place. And your assumptions about the use of an atomic bomb by the ISIS against the Russians in Syria SOVA stretched over the MEGAGLOBUS. .

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: D16

The reactor was bombed in 2007. And at the heart of the ISIS were those left without work Saddam's military.

Express your thoughts more clearly.
Therefore, I did not understand that you are answering point by point.
Then you can continue.
2 If it were for my grandmother, there would be a grandfather. History knows no subjunctive mood.
3 Yes, in Syria in 2007, the igil appeared in Syria from Iraq, when they began to beat them up there and they were at first in the Deir ez-Zor region, they did not hesitate to use such a gift.
4 DO NOT TOUCH THE BIRDS!

[D16]

My dad, when I was little, used to say that Jews are divided into two categories of people. Or very smart and talented, or complete ...
2 For grandparents nowadays he doesn’t chase. It is not difficult to draw the simplest analogies. Nuclear weapons are defensive weapons, because if the non-aligned owner uses them out of bounds, the rest will grind them to dust. But no one pokes himself at him either.
And then it’s simple. Iraq with the atomic bomb> no storms> Hussein's fighters on the payroll, Saddam is watching the country> Turkey keeps itself within the bounds, taking water from the Euphrates. The devastated Syrian countryside does not go to the Alawites for permanent residence. There is no reason for the Arab Spring. Woo-a-la !!! No Russian base in Khmeimim .

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: D16

My dad, when I was little, used to say that Jews are divided into two categories of people. Or very smart and talented, or complete ..

It's not entirely clear to me why daddy told you about Jews when you were little.
Probably there was a reason (I hope he did not work in the NKVD).
But your dad was right, but the first is much more than the second, this can be seen in the example of the state of Israel.

Quote: D16

Woo-a-la !!! No Russian base at Khmeimim.

You know, I never read science fiction in my life, but I was fond of chess.

[D16]

It's not entirely clear to me why daddy told you about Jews when you were little.

Jews lived in the old Kuibyshev courtyard, where I spent my childhood. And not only in this courtyard. Some ruled the workshops of the 1st and 18th plants, others in old age threw stones at the children. Or the children screamed when their parents tried to bring them into the river, as if they were expelling spirits from them. Historical memory, probably .

can be seen in the example of the state of Israel.

Something tells me that smart and talented people either did not come there, or they are quietly knocking down.

You know I have never read science fiction in my life

In vain. develops imagination. Jules Verne predicted so much as a science fiction writer

[Denis812]

For me personally, the Israeli state seems much more sane than the Iranian one.
But, as I have said here many times, alas, it will not survive. If not for reasons of war, then because of demographics, which are changing very rapidly. And soon we will have the Islamic Caliphate Israel. :)
Unless, of course, the Jews will not pull themselves together and begin state regulation of the population on an ethnic basis.

In general, yes, I would strain if the neighboring country constantly openly declared that my country "will not live". And I fully support Israel, which is ready to zhahnat Tehran or various objects there.
I just think that this time a lot of things will also come in response.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Denis812

In general, yes, I would strain if the neighboring country constantly openly declared that my country "will not live"

well, not quite that "neighboring" one ... Adir is already flying there and back without refueling or not yet?

[Denis812]

otkel I know. Ask someone who serves on Nevatim.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Denis812

otkel I know. Ask someone who serves on Nevatim.

I don't want to get into their sweet theosophical conversation with such a trifle)

[Denis812]

I don’t even hope that they heard about Theosophy on Nevatim, but if so, then, on the whole, their command is on the right track, judging by what we hear from him. Soon they will know the unknowable. Well, they will send many to get acquainted with Allah.
May God give them happiness. Heat and Energy.

[Ashes of Claes]

I'm not talking about

Quote: Denis812

Nevatim

but about the conversation of the cameras in the branch. Nevermind)

[Denis812]

Sorry, I didn't drive into such a deep distance. Was busy with discussions in other threads. I humbly beg your pardon.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

If not for reasons of war, then because of demographics, which are changing very rapidly.

The statistics disagree with you.
Jews in Israel make up about 74% of the population, with 6 citizens registered as Jews. Another 841 (000%) are Arabs, and the rest, 1 (946%), are members of other groups. The percentage is about the same as in previous years.
And there is no basis for your prediction.
Today, the overall fertility rate in Israel among Jewish and Arab women is almost the same (3,05 among Jewish women and 3,16 among Arab women), while in Jerusalem, Arab women on average have fewer children (3,33) than Jewish women. (4.27).
The reason for the decline in the fertility of Arab women is the rise in living standards, education and the modernization of society.

[Denis812]

Oh, yes, you read Wikipedia.
It will be great if you scroll a little further and see that in 2009 there were 75.9% of Jews and 20.21 of Arabs. And in 2016, 74% remained Jews, while Arabs became 20,9% (and the number of "other non-Jews" also increased). In seven years the number of Jews decreased by 2 percent.
I do not know how they teach in the kibbutz, but in Soviet schools, they taught counting normally.
Will you count further?

Oh yes, and praise Jesus for the State of Israel, which takes care of the fertility of Arab women.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

Oh, yes, you read Wikipedia.

And what is this edition?
Do you remember what Professor Preobrazhensky said?
I always remember that.
And what I read, you can read it too.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-arab-fertility-rates-in-israel-on-par-for-first-time/

Quote: Denis812

Oh yes, and praise be to Jesus for the State of Israel,

And this is something new.
Jesus, as he reposed, passed 2021, and Israel has existed for 73 years.

[Denis812]

Well, your numbers are one to one with Wikipedia. That's why I continued with them. Which you, however, do not deny, as well as their correctness. Well, thank God.

Regarding Jesus - I am amused all the time how the Jews say that he "rested". When he was first betrayed by a Jew, and then also at the trial, the Jewish representatives asked him to be executed instead of Barrabas.
They killed Christ, and then for 2000 years they wonder why they do not love them so much.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

Which you, however, do not deny, as well as their correctness.

I gave you a link, read there completely different numbers

Quote: Denis812

Regarding Jesus - I am amused all the time how the Jews say that he "rested". When his first betrayed by a Jew, and then, at the trial, the Jewish representatives asked him to be executed instead of Barrabas.
They killed Christ, and then for 2000 years they wonder why they do not love them so much.

You are not entirely familiar with the history.
At that time only Jews lived there, including Yeshua.
What he preached, after 1905, V.I. Lenin (if you know who he is).
Take from the rich and share with the poor, and he was a rabbi and ordinary people listened to his sermons.
It is clear that the rich did not like it, they laid it down to the Romans, that it messes with the people. The Romans did the rest.
This is history.
And then his disciples turned him into a religion against Judaism and, on your example, very successfully.

[Denis812]

You gave me a link. there are numbers. the numbers are the same as in Wiki, I continued your series with other numbers from Wiki. What is the problem? Do you like your link better? well OK, free will.

Don't confuse Christianity and Leninism. Lenin, if you know who it is, was a materialist and denied the existence of God. So, only a person who is absolutely not aware of their views can say that Jesus and Lenin spoke about the same thing.

Your point of view on the situation with Jesus is clear to me. I will say even more - Jesus' counter-authority actions have always been deeply unpleasant to me, regardless of his motivation.
But all this does not deny the fact I mentioned. The Jew betrayed the Jew, and then at the Jewish Veche other Jews sentenced him to crucifixion. So who are the Jews after that? :)
I will pray for Hezbollah, perhaps.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Denis812

I will pray for Hezbollah, perhaps.

Well here you are and opened up your face anti-Semite, why was it necessary to paint everything else.
This is the work of Hamas.

And based on your statements, you regret that you did not participate in this.

[Pickles Sunset]

Quote: Denis812

Regarding Jesus - I am amused all the time how the Jews say that he "rested". When he was first betrayed by a Jew, and then also at the trial, the Jewish representatives asked him to be executed instead of Barrabas.

Just a minute ... Jesus himself was a Jew, preached in the Jewish Temple, and was a rabbi. And in general, these were internal Jewish graters, of which history was inflated. And the Romans, in order to absolve themselves of responsibility for the crucifixion of Jesus, then blamed the Jews. They say they are not guilty, although it was the Romans who tried him according to their own laws and then executed him.

[D16]

I just think that this time a lot of things will also come in response.

Golden words, Yuri Venediktovich!

[taiga2018]

It's good to be a brave mongrel when a striped predator is behind you ...

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: tralflot1832

And Lot's wife was just not lucky!

Quote: Krasnodar

Pillar of salt
Lot was also unlucky with his daughters

Quote: Thrifty

Or do you think that he could not profitably realize such an amount of free salt? ??

Quote: Krasnodar

His daughters gave him drink and got to know him - in the Biblical sense of the word

Quote: tralflot1832

And what about them, did they really marry Arabs!

Well, you fucking give (s)
))

[zenion]

Nice and like in that joke - but what are we for ?!

[rocket757]

Israeli Finance Minister: Conflict with Iran is only a matter of time

Neither one nor the other, NOT ANGELS, in their words, statements and deeds!
There are no simple solutions and there will not be ... especially when a mad elephant "walked" well in that "china shop"!

[miru mir]

go sleep it off, military

[Cowbra]

The drunk will sleep - - never

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Cowbra

The Jidai knights have long lost their lands. And yet - the fascists - must be destroyed, and not negotiated with them. Hey, flyboy! Who do you think I am? Goy, not a man? You scum, be afraid, so that a guy does not make a goy in your goims. I hate fascists, but you are exactly

Actually, the Goyim are all the peoples of the world. Do you want to be considered a Jew? Your troubles are not enough for you? Or boring?

[Cowbra]

Well, let's say I'm a quarter Jewish - well, whoever had a problem with that - it's not for me. Hands in place and write an explanation on the scoreboard .... Without any weapons.
Well, and that's that I'm not a man but a goy ... Do you know Marshak? Granddaughter - Elena Marshak, my classmate. honestly - I didn’t expect her to be at the prom ... There was not only goy there. One more. Menaker know the last name? Well, Mironov, for example - this one is even cooler, they say, I'm not expecting, an under-Ukrainian. Yes, mother, my address is not a house or a street, my address is the Soviet Union, but I always beat the Nazis, and the Jews are categorically, precisely the Nazis.

[Krasnodar]

Nazis are Syrians)).
Legal in the country since 2005, with all the attributes and ideology.
They are fighting for Assad, by the way.
Who said that the goyim are not people? They came up with it themselves, or who prompted it? Well, if you want to beat the Dzhidayevs, I can throw in the addresses, except for one thing - there the person beat his body, who was 20 years younger (MS shot put), you were at least hospitalized there. )) The rest are so - there is a chance

[Cowbra]

Quote: Krasnodar

Nazis are Syrians)).

Is that all at once? New news, now the Syrians have organized. Well, we will not say who there considers himself right and right.

[Krasnodar]

Not all, the second largest party in the country after Baath, seats in parliament, their national bats are the Hurricane Eagles (a hurricane is a stylized swastika)

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Cowbra

my address is the Soviet Union, and I always beat Natsiks

Where did you find them in the Soviet Union? Or appointed according to their own understanding?

[Cowbra]

Who, excuse me?

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Cowbra

Who, excuse me?

yes "Natsiks" who "always beat".

[Cowbra]

First, recognize where the ashes are knocking on your heart, if you don't have a wallet instead. Because the question you asked is clearly not friendly with the head

Quote: Cowbra

Elena Marshak, my classmate

And the menaker - hold it, just don't drop it
https://www.rusfootball.info/forum/cat-lyubyietemyi/topic-25493-page-977.html#post1562135
Menaker, Menaker. Exactly. Magnificent surname, how many talents - yes, do not count. Well and here

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Cowbra

Elena Marshak, my classmate

I sympathize. And the Nazis have something to do with it?

Quote: Cowbra

And the menaker - hold it, just don't drop it

Fuck me some forum crap? Do you think that I will be poking around in this manure?

[Cowbra]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

And the Nazis have something to do with it?

Yes, as if I spoke for the lady ... Very funny. and as it turned out, she has a bias. not even worse to say to everyone who is not a Jew. True, it turned me off then, well, yes, I agree that I am so ... Often unpleasant in communication, for example. But damn what Frau has done ... There was no word untermensch, but in all seriousness - I'm not a Jew, which means I don't need to live, in her opinion, is this normal? This is Nazism.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Cowbra

Yes, how would I

Have you tried aripiprazole?

[Denis812]

I wonder how the Jews are going to stop Iran this time? Again on some "Osirak" zhahnet?
I suspect, if according to "Bushehr", then there may be a response from the Russian Federation

[Oleg Olkha]

Lieber is a suitable finance minister for the Ministry of Defense and his interlocutor, early. GSh, Kochavi. Firstly, he is sure, in life, that it is necessary to beat first, without looking back at the United States, (they are far away) with an obvious situation of a "smoking pistol", secondly, he himself was the Minister of Defense and fought for the budget, and thirdly, he advocates shifting some of the Air Force's missions to long-range high-precision missiles, etc. etc. Today's military budget, even with an additional US $ 3.8 billion, is largely a "peacetime" budget and should increase by 10% annually, given the circumstances. There are also such opinions ...

[Oleg Olkha]

Just now. "According to the 12th TV channel, after a two-year break, by order of the Chief of the IDF General Staff, the Air Force is returning to working out the scenario of striking nuclear facilities in Iran.
The channel reported that Lieutenant General Aviv Kohavi ordered not only to focus on gathering intelligence about Iran's nuclear program and drawing up current operational plans, but also ordered the Air Force to return to conducting exercises based on these plans. Kohavi also ordered to find funds in the budget for the goals set. "Https://www.newsru.co.il/israel/21oct2021/iran_bbc_0010.html

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It would have been faster for Iran to create nuclear weapons so that the Israeli and American militaries would lag behind this country.

[Pickles Sunset]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Iran would have built nuclear weapons faster

And he hit Voronezh ... The Persians have not forgotten who their little Satan is, they remember Tehran 43 and see you especially with white slippers on your bare feet.

[Klingon]

How does North Korea with Eun threaten Israel? The Japs, yes, they threaten and deserve it by the way!
This Liberson first smoked his sideways and then thought of this? If he thinks that Iran will be an easy walk for the Jews, then I'm afraid he is greatly mistaken, lest Jewish Vietnam might turn out
PS, or maybe Egypt on the sly wants to get even

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Klingon

How does North Korea with Eun threaten Israel? The Japs, yes, they threaten and deserve it by the way!
This Liberson first smoked his sideways and then thought of this?

To what "before"? The Jew mentioned the DPRK in the context of "they made a bomb, in spite of it. So the Persians are blind." Where did he say about the threat to Israel from the Koreans?

[Borisych]

Lieberman forgot that he himself was making his vigorous bomb in the basement on his knee. So that the world community does not worry. And the Persians openly saw their own. And I can even guess for whom.

[Lord]

Here are the poor and obscure all of them offend such good ones

[savoj]

Iran would have chances, but it seems that Iran is crammed with MASSAD agents and its non-patriots.

[Egor53]

Israel needs to think not about how to conflict with Iran, but how to establish non-aggressive relations with it.
Iran has no goal to destroy Israel, but to get Israel to stop bombing all of its neighbors.
Iran's nuclear weapons do not pose the slightest threat either to Russia or China. It follows from this that, sooner or later, Russia and China will help Iran create nuclear weapons. And Israel will have to put up with it.
In a one-on-one military conflict, Israel will lose to Iran. If the US helps Israel, and Russia and China help Iran, Israel will also lose.

[Avior]

... Iran has no goal of destroying Israel

There is such a goal

Destruction of Israel for Iran is not only a dream, but also an achievable goal. This was stated by the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Hossein Salami.

Iran has accumulated sufficient potential to destroy the "fake Zionist regime", RT quoted Salami as saying.

[Cowbra]

Like so, and that the comment is short. This is not necessary anymore

[Valery Volkov]

I think the same can be said about the conflict between NATO and Russia - it is a matter of time, if you face the truth ... We must be prepared for this.