Foreign experts against the Russian system "Perimeter"

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In the event of a disarming and decapitating nuclear missile strike from a potential enemy, the "Perimeter" command and control complex has been created in our country. In a critical situation, he must take control of strategic nuclear forces and carry out a retaliatory strike. The existence and operation of such a system is causing concern in some foreign circles - and they propose to take the "Perimeter" out of service.

In different contexts


The first information about the Perimeter system appeared soon after the collapse of the USSR. Subsequently, in different sources, new details of an unclear degree of reliability appeared. Officials mostly refrained from commenting, although it was mentioned that the control complex really exists and is on alert.



Abroad, information about the "Perimeter" caused an ambiguous reaction. Recognizing the originality of the approach and the importance of such a system for the defense of the USSR / Russia, foreign experts pointed out some inherent risks. In particular, the very principle of automatic control of strategic nuclear forces without involving a person or with a limited role was criticized. It was assumed that such a system did not meet safety requirements, and any error in the electronics could lead to a full-scale nuclear war.

In recent years, foreign military science has again begun to pay attention to the "Perimeter" and other Russian developments, and now in a new context and taking into account current trends. The Russian control complex is once again recognized as potentially dangerous - and sometimes they even suggest using all available means to seek its decommissioning.


One of the topical topics of recent years abroad is “new disruptive technologies” (NDT) and their impact on the appearance and capabilities of armies. In particular, their potential in the field of strategic forces is being studied, incl. ability and risks of errors and unleashing war in automatic mode.

As the weekly Zvezda writes in its article "New Destructive Technologies": Another US Ploy "from October 18, not so long ago a webinar took place in Europe, during which a number of Russian developments were linked to the NDT - and for this reason it was proposed to limit or reduce. In addition, the article mentions another foreign publication that criticizes Perimeter.

It should be noted that Zvezda does not name a specific event and does not provide a link to a critical article. In addition, officials of NATO countries and the organization as a whole do not raise the topic of the "Perimeter" and do not demand to ban it. However, even without this, the situation is quite clear. A likely adversary is wary of Russian defense capabilities, and special controls are also becoming a cause for concern.

Claims and suggestions


Despite the past time and the emergence of new ideas and concepts, the claims to the Russian "Perimeter" remain the same. The system is accused of insufficient human participation and excessive automation, which supposedly can lead to irreparable consequences.


For such a problem, a simple, albeit questionable, solution is proposed. Potentially dangerous "Perimeter" must be removed from duty or even banned. In this case, the leading role in the management of the Russian strategic nuclear forces will be assigned not to automation, but to people - like other nuclear powers. It is assumed that such a change in the control loops will increase responsibility and reliability, as well as eliminate risks.

However, such proposals so far exist only in the form of the most general ideas and statements. No specific measures or methods of their implementation are provided. In addition, such ideas are still only being discussed in some circles and have not yet received the support of officials in responsible positions.

It should be noted that the future fate of the "Perimeter" and other systems for nuclear and conventional forces will be determined by the Russian command on the basis of existing plans and needs. In this case, the opinion of foreign experts is irrelevant. "Perimeter" may be included in any international agreement of a limiting nature, but Russia will not sign it on such terms. It will not be possible to convince her to do this. Moreover, practice has already shown that attempts at military or political pressure will also be useless.


Reasons for criticism


Obviously, in the current situation, it is not the proposals to ban the "Perimeter" that are of particular interest, but the reasons for their appearance. Such information can shed light on more important processes, opinions and plans taking place in the foreign expert community and in the areas of military leadership.

The main complaint about Perimeter, related to the minimal role of a person, is quite understandable and even justified. From the point of view of foreign military and specialists who are familiar with the management of strategic nuclear forces in their countries, such an approach is unusual and specific - which in itself causes concern. However, this opinion is debatable.

Another explanation can be found, connected not with the technical features of the "Perimeter", but with the goals and objectives of this system. It must guarantee a retaliatory strike against a potential enemy and inflicting unacceptable damage on him, despite any possible losses of strategic nuclear forces from his actions. Accordingly, the first strike will not give the enemy the expected advantages - it will only partially disarm and at the same time will not be able to decapitate the Russian nuclear forces.

Thus, the Perimeter system solves the tasks of managing strategic nuclear forces and ensures their high stability, which makes it one of the key components of strategic deterrence. It is noteworthy that the task of containment is accomplished by the very fact of the existence and operation of the system. The threat of a guaranteed retaliatory strike can bring any aggressor to life.


It is not hard to guess who and why needed to propose and promote the idea of ​​abandoning Perimeter. It is obvious that in NATO and in individual countries there are certain groups of officials and experts who are directly interested in weakening the Russian strategic nuclear forces. Perhaps all this is done with the aim of gaining advantages for their nuclear forces in the event of a full-scale conflict.

Methods of confrontation


Thus, a rather interesting, but not very pleasant situation is developing around the Perimeter automatic control system of the Strategic Nuclear Forces. A critical element of Russian defense is not only attracting attention, but criticism. Moreover, abroad they no longer hesitate to talk about the danger of this system and the need to remove it from service. However, so far such conversations have not reached the official level and are not receiving support from officials.

Time will tell how the situation will develop. Conversations about the need to disarm or even ban the Perimeter system may remain at the level of discussions and publications - or move to a higher level. However, it is clear that Russia will not heed the recommendations of foreign experts and officials, especially those that threaten its security.
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  1. +18
    22 October 2021 05: 24
    Why doesn't Russia criticize the system of mass threat from various military blocs? Maybe it's enough to shift the rotten fruits of an inflamed imagination from a sore head to a healthy one?
    1. Maz
      +21
      22 October 2021 21: 56
      Since they criticize, it means a good system!
      1. +3
        24 October 2021 16: 51
        The Russian control complex is once again recognized as potentially dangerous - and sometimes they even suggest using all available means to seek its decommissioning.
        I strongly agree. We must, we must take this system off alert. True, after performing such a small, completely logical procedure. It is even possible in two versions, to choose from:
        1. Eliminate all weapons of mass destruction by the NATO countries and all others (except for the Russian Federation).
        2. Transfer all nuclear and thermonuclear ammunition and equipment capable of producing them under the control of the Russian Federation, with the removal to its territory.
        So, after the fulfillment of these conditions, which are absolutely not burdensome for NATO and other countries, and the "Perimeter" system can be removed from alert duty.
  2. KCA
    +39
    22 October 2021 05: 28
    They realized it too late, under Gorbachev it was necessary to demand the destruction of the "Perimeter"
    1. +29
      22 October 2021 05: 48
      under Gorbachev it was necessary to demand the destruction of the "Perimeter"

      Under the Alkash and his minister Kozyrev it was also possible!
      1. +20
        22 October 2021 06: 09
        Quote: Luminman
        Under the Alkash and his minister Kozyrev it was also possible!

        So, after all, they demanded, it was even partially decommissioned due to the collapse of the Union and the loss of components. Then it took a long time to restore.
        However, so far such conversations have not reached the official level and do not receive support from officials.
        That's right, the main thing is that at our officials did not find support. And then horror films in the form of "Sobchak for the presidency" sometimes make you think about the adequacy.
        1. +24
          22 October 2021 06: 19
          "Sobchak for the presidency"

          Our country will no longer stand such a punishment
          1. +2
            23 October 2021 11: 22
            Yours will not stand it - but in Ukraine the herd is stronger with such shepherds and continuous peremogs!
      2. +6
        22 October 2021 06: 37
        Under the Alkash and his minister Kozyrev it was also possible!
        It seemed that there was chatter at that time that for some time the Perimeter system was taken off alert. And again I got up on the database with the arrival of Vladimir Vladimirovich. Whether this is true or not, for obvious reasons, we cannot know for sure.
        The watch of this system for our opponents is not just a bone in the throat, but a ship's mast between the buns so guarded by them.
        I can imagine with what zeal the opponents are digging information about the deployment and routes of movement of the command missiles of the system. Even against the background of just combat ICBMs.
        1. +2
          23 October 2021 13: 22
          the ship's mast between the buns so guarded by them.

          So they like it)))
        2. -1
          22 November 2021 11: 20
          The chatter ...
      3. +5
        22 October 2021 11: 20
        With a drunk, any whim in general ...
        1. +2
          23 October 2021 11: 18
          Since 2000 you have sobered up, but have you grown wiser?
          1. 0
            23 October 2021 12: 13
            This is a philosophical question .. which cannot be answered specifically ..
      4. 0
        25 October 2021 12: 08
        Interestingly, when an alcoholic, there was a rearmament to a new technique according to this system, apparently it did not affect the process then ..
    2. +3
      22 October 2021 05: 53
      and there is nothing to discuss

      Let's all die together ... planet Earth will become a mass grave for humanity.
      Difficult Friday today on VO ... every article is another horror story ... a pandemic, a dead hand, the Third World ... devil, soon in a dream, the nightmares of the apocalypse will start dreaming.
      1. -1
        22 October 2021 06: 08
        You are a happy man! You just will, but I already dream of them! The atomic mushroom over the beloved Arzamas-16 ,,,
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      2. +8
        22 October 2021 11: 03
        Let's all die together ... planet Earth will become a mass grave for humanity.
        The question of the destruction of mankind has long ceased to exist, the number of nuclear warheads has decreased 80 times since the mid-10s. Now we are talking about inflicting unacceptable damage.
        1. -3
          22 October 2021 12: 02
          Quote: Trapp1st
          The question of the destruction of humanity has long ceased to exist; the number of nuclear warheads has decreased 80 times since the mid-10s. Now it comes to urging unacceptable

          If earlier it was believed that nuclear weapons on the planet are enough to destroy it 10 times in a row, now it remains for the destruction of the planet three times. These conversations come from the United States, the criterion of unacceptable damage is only their criterion, that is, their starting point at which further war on their part is impossible.
          1. +3
            22 October 2021 13: 01
            If earlier it was believed that the planet had enough nuclear weapons to destroy it 10 times in a row
            Read on, there are analytical works on this topic on VO.
            1. -1
              22 October 2021 13: 15
              I read almost everything. You just need to know where and why they have and have always been in their military doctrine, the criterion "Unacceptable damage".
              1. +3
                22 October 2021 13: 20
                they have and have always been in their military doctrine, the criterion "Unacceptable damage"
                From there that we can inflict it on them, mind you not to destroy, but to inflict damage, as a result of which even the victory will turn out to be Pyrrhic, on this, among other things, our doctrine of containment is built.
                1. +2
                  22 October 2021 14: 09
                  Quote: Trapp1st
                  From there that we can inflict it on them, mind you not to destroy, but to inflict damage, as a result of which even the victory will turn out to be Pyrrhic, on this, among other things, our doctrine of containment is built.

                  Yes Yes, just like that, with their military doctrine of first strike, preemptive retaliation beyond their criterion of unacceptable damage, makes all their previous actions meaningless. hi
                2. +1
                  22 October 2021 23: 21
                  Quote: Trapp1st
                  From there that we can inflict it on them, mind you not to destroy, but to inflict damage, as a result of which even the victory will turn out to be Pyrrhic, on this, among other things, our doctrine of containment is built.

                  But the question arose after reading the article - in the light of the energy crisis in the West, it has become interesting now, and gas storage facilities are strategic targets for a retaliatory strike against opponents? Nobody can answer unequivocally, but probably yes, as I think, the nuclear power plant is under the gun.
          2. +2
            23 October 2021 05: 34
            In general, their supervolcano needs to wake up a lot of special supplies?
      3. 0
        23 October 2021 15: 41
        Better in a crowd than their lives at our expense!
      4. 0
        23 January 2022 10: 44
        Well, let's say they wipe out one Russia and you along with it, it will become easier for you. Why do we need such a world where there is no Russia. It will take hundreds of thousands of years, maybe millions, civilization will be reborn again and maybe they won’t have those who put the world on the brink of destruction. And this will happen even without a war, people will exhaust all resources and wallow in toxic waste.
    3. -1
      22 October 2021 09: 35
      Woke up late

      Yes, but in terms of the degree of impudence it is comparable to - "Well, why do you need money? Give it to me, I will find a better use for it"
      )))
    4. +3
      22 October 2021 14: 52
      Why is there such confidence that there will be no new Gorbachevs and Yeltsyns in the leadership?
      1. -1
        23 October 2021 05: 35
        One will soon leave the zone ..
    5. +5
      22 October 2021 20: 22
      I agree on one thing about the liquidation of the "Perimeter", that an even more advanced system will be put in its place, so that all enemies of Russia dry up their tongues with envy and their eyes turn red with anger, and our people could live in peace for centuries in Russia.
  3. +30
    22 October 2021 05: 35
    The "perimeter" can only be feared by those who allow nuclear weapons to strike Russia.
    1. +22
      22 October 2021 07: 05
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      "Perimeter" can only be feared by those who allow nuclear weapons to strike at Russia

      It is logical. And in the case of open claims, it is worth inviting them to reconsider their plans at the expense of Russia.
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  4. +21
    22 October 2021 05: 39
    If the "mongrel" barked, then we are doing everything right!
    Don't like the automatic system? And in what way is it worse than the "canned", stoned and chipped "buttons"?
    1. +30
      22 October 2021 11: 32
      Quote: Yngvar
      Don't like the automatic system? And in what way is it worse than the "canned", stoned and chipped "buttons"?

      Well, how is it? Not operated from Washington.
  5. +10
    22 October 2021 05: 49
    claims against the Russian "Perimeter" remain the same. The system is accused of insufficient human participation and excessive automation, which supposedly can lead to irreparable consequences.

    As a citizen of Russia and the head of the Russian state, I want to ask the question: why do we need such a world if there is no Russia there? "
    V.V. Putin.

    The most intelligible explanation of why "Perimeter" is needed
  6. +8
    22 October 2021 06: 06
    The whole world is in trash !!! the inevitability of such consequences, especially for their loved ones, forces the most zealous to restrain themselves from ..... irreparable.
    Let there be a PERIMETER.
    1. +4
      22 October 2021 10: 41
      The whole world is in dust !!! the inevitability of such consequences, especially for their loved ones, forces the most zealous to restrain themselves from ..... irreparable.
      Let there be a PERIMETER.

      My thoughts were expressed right down to the comma! Russia needs just such a system of retaliatory strike, which in AUTOMATIC mode, in case of destruction by a preventive strike from the adversaries of the Russian command posts, will deliver such a retaliatory and crushing blow that it is "The whole world to dust" ©. That there was not even a theoretical possibility for the aggressors to take advantage of the preemptive strike. So that the understanding of the inevitability of the destruction of the Earth Globe at the beginning of hostilities against Russia would stop those who want world domination from rash actions.
      1. +2
        22 October 2021 11: 00
        Quote: Alexander X
        Russia needs exactly such a retaliatory strike system, which in AUTOMATIC mode,

        Trust automation completely, in such a dangerous business ... doubts will always be there.
        The problem is not that we cannot answer, the problem is rather that there is no certainty that they will give the command to answer in full.
        However, even doubts that we will answer, all responsible interpret in the direction that we CAN ANSWER!
        1. +1
          22 October 2021 11: 51
          The problem is not that we cannot answer, the problem is rather that there is no certainty that they will give the command to answer in full.
          Yes. Problem. "Donkey laden with gold" © can sometimes defeat the most powerful nuclear missile ...
          1. +4
            22 October 2021 12: 59
            Quote: Alexander X
            "Donkey laden with gold

            Well, yes, maybe a donkey, maybe a sent Cossack, maybe someone else ...
            This cannot be allowed!
            1. +2
              22 October 2021 22: 06
              The thing is that the system receives a lot of data from different sides and compares it with the programs embedded in it. If from some place the signal that holds the system in a balanced position does not come, then the system will begin to work in such a state that it will no longer be possible to stop it. All intended targets will be destroyed. And this is such a mass of flying various combat assets that it will not be possible to shoot down at least part of it. The main enemy will be destroyed anyway.
              1. +3
                22 October 2021 22: 42
                Automatic systems, they are different ... like blocking / command systems, they also have different schemes / operating principles!
                Purely from experience ... too complex, multi-level control systems or interlocks, this is a double-edged sword !!! They protect against unauthorized operation, BUT, they can interfere with the execution of a real command !!!
                There are no perfect systems.
    2. +2
      23 October 2021 08: 40
      What a thing! Foreign experts are against, it turns out.! recourse who would have thought?
      Moreover, they perform in chorus
      It means that they are plotting against something, making plans!
      PERIMETU --- to be
      Quote: rocket757
      The whole world is in trash !!! the inevitability of such consequences, especially for their loved ones, forces the most zealous to restrain themselves from ..... irreparable. Let there be a PERIMETER.
      hi welcome Victor!
      1. +2
        23 October 2021 10: 18
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        All the fuss, not for the first time. There is no point in discussing it seriously. Just a safety net, another line of defense, t.s.
        They distract from other problems that everyone has, practically, and what the problem will be for those who will not be able to solve them promptly ... it is difficult to predict.
        1. +1
          23 October 2021 10: 27
          Quote: rocket757
          Hi Dmitry soldier
          All the fuss, not for the first time. There is no point in discussing it seriously. Just a safety net, another line of defense, .......

          The point, in my opinion, is that repeated repetition, such as skripals, is a technology, a technique, so that Europeans, Americans would firmly get into the "threats" of Russia, this is a continuation of the demonization of Russia
          1. +2
            23 October 2021 10: 50
            The methods of influence have a chance of success when they fall on the general negative background!
            It is clear that an absolutely happy person can be influenced, but it is already necessary to try hard !!! the more happy people are, the more sophisticated, subtle, impact is needed ... it's difficult.
            Conclusion, people need, society is happier, more positive, they want a large, dominant part !!!
            1. +3
              23 October 2021 11: 06
              Quote: rocket757
              Methods of influence have a chance of success when they fall on a general negative background! ... an absolutely happy person can be influenced, but you have to try hard !!! the more happy people are, the more sophisticated, ........
              Conclusion, people need, society is happier, more positive, they want a large, dominant part !!!

              I remembered some TV programs recourse , although I do not look specifically, in fits and starts negative
              Impression --- a negative background is deliberately formed on TV, although looking at the rise in product prices, it can be formed from this too
              1. +1
                23 October 2021 11: 38
                The reality is the most serious argument for the formation of any background.
                Everything is not simple with us, but our people are not so simple, they can react emotionally to any nonsense, but then we will sit, think, wave a stack .... look back and .... no, no, it's not worth it!
  7. +6
    22 October 2021 06: 09
    These are all lamentations. The man just has the main role there. He can cancel the blow. The point of such a system is only that all people who can cancel the blow are dead. I have no idea how exactly this works, but such a system has beacons from which it starts. And unambiguously they are all connected with people who control this system. And they will never say anything specifically about her. Accordingly, few people care about this whining.
  8. +2
    22 October 2021 06: 22
    It would be even more interesting for our partners on the other side of the barricades to sometimes show the educational work of the "Perimeter" in order for sobering up to occur at the initial stage of Russophobia.
  9. +2
    22 October 2021 06: 33
    The West still cannot forget how readily Gorbachev went to sign a gentleman's treaty with Reagan, agreeing to destroy the latest missile deterrent (Oka OTR). I hope the lesson is learned. Don't you need liquid soap?
    1. -1
      22 October 2021 09: 28
      maybe with what readiness Gorbachev went to sign a gentlemen's treaty with Reagan, agreeing to the destruction of the latest missile deterrent (OTR "Oka")

      "The latest deterrent weapon" really could not achieve its goals even in Great Britain and France, not to mention the territory of the United States proper.
      The reason why, within the framework of the Treaty on Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles (INF Treaty), its parties destroyed a whole class of missiles, not counting the number of missiles, is very simple - even taking into account the norms of the START-1 Treaty of 31.07.1991/6000/6500, both the USSR and the United States should it was to remain on XNUMX-XNUMX nuclear warheads on deployed strategic delivery vehicles. This number in itself already guaranteed the infliction of unacceptable damage to a potential adversary and thereby provided one hundred percent of the task of strategic deterrence.
      1. -3
        23 October 2021 13: 58
        Quote: Terran Ghost
        "The latest deterrent weapon" really could not achieve its goals even in Great Britain and France, not to mention the territory of the United States proper.

        This was not required of him. But it could reach the American troops deployed in the FRG. For example, the missiles would have reached Ramstein and Spangdahlem faster than the planes would have had time to take off from there. The same bases "Pershing-2" are also quite worthy targets for the "Oka" OTRK.
        1. 0
          25 October 2021 10: 37
          The same bases "Pershing-2" are also quite worthy targets for the "Oka" OTRK.

          In the event of a hypothetical attack by the forces of the NATO military bloc on the Soviet Union, what is the point in attacking the "spent" (that is, launching missiles) launch complexes of the Pershing-2 MRBM? It's just that in the event of such a hypothetical act of military aggression, such missiles would be fired in the first place - their relatively high vulnerability, coupled with the short flight time of these missiles to their theoretical targets.
          But I will repeat myself. Even taking into account the norms of the START-1 treaty of July 31.07.1991, 6000, both the USSR and the United States should have had 6500-XNUMX nuclear warheads each on deployed strategic delivery vehicles. This amount in itself already guaranteed the infliction of unacceptable damage to a potential adversary and thereby ensured the tasks of strategic deterrence.
          Therefore, whole classes of weapons were "exchanged" - domestic (Soviet) "Temp-S" and "Oka" were "exchanged" for American "Pershing-1A".
          In general, the INF Treaty was a very profitable agreement for the Soviet Union - within its framework, the launching complexes of Pershing-2 missiles, capable of reaching Minsk and Kharkov with Dnepropetrovsk, were removed. To the objection that the RSD-10 "Pioneer", when deployed in Kamchatka, also "got" to theoretical targets on the west coast of the United States ... so it is, but there is one "but" - flight time. For the RSD-10 missiles, in this case, it was about the same as when using intercontinental ballistic missiles. But "Pershing-2" has its theoretical goals. goals were achieved in 11-13 minutes. Total.
          1. -1
            25 October 2021 11: 10
            Quote: Terran Ghost
            In the event of a hypothetical attack by the forces of the NATO military bloc on the Soviet Union, what is the point in attacking the "spent" (that is, launching missiles) launch complexes of the Pershing-2 MRBM?

            The point, apparently, is not to wait for a hypothetical attack by NATO forces, but to hypothetically attack them first. This is only one of the likely scenarios, but if you have to implement it, it is foolish not to use this opportunity due to the lack of suitable means of attack.

            Quote: Terran Ghost
            The INF Treaty in general for the Soviet Union was a very profitable agreement - within its framework, the launching complexes of Pershing-2 missiles, capable of reaching Minsk and Kharkov with Dnepropetrovsk, were removed.

            We are still talking about the "Oka". To discuss the profitability / disadvantage of the contract in general - this has already been done one hundred thousand five hundred million times.
  10. +1
    22 October 2021 09: 07
    On their proposal for decommissioning, one must once loudly and accurately send the proposers on a walking erotic tour!
  11. +1
    22 October 2021 09: 24
    A person can also make a mistake, and it remains to be seen whose mistake is worse than a person or electronics.
  12. +3
    22 October 2021 09: 32
    the whole article "someone against, someone against" ...
    1. Who exactly where exactly said that he was against the Perimeter? Could the Author provide evidence so to speak?
    2. The Perimeter system, so that the author knows, is activated by the order of the person. Sensor network, etc. simply activates a request to the Operator. But it is the operator who makes the decision to launch the Command Missile.
    3. In order for the system to fully automatically decide to launch a command missile, there must be no communication at the same time, for a long time between all decision-making points where people are. Of which there are dozens and which are scattered throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. that is, if at least two control points are working and there is a connection between them, and the rest of the Russian Federation has turned into a skating rink, there will be no launch.

    The author needs to watch less "The Terminator" and similar films. The machines have not yet taken over the Earth.
    1. +2
      23 October 2021 11: 43
      Quote: Denis812
      The Perimeter system, so that the author knows, is activated by the order of a person.

      When put on alert - yes.
      Quote: Denis812
      But it is the operator who makes the decision to launch the Command Missile.

      It is not.
      Quote: Denis812
      there must be no connection at the same time, for a long time

      This is also not the case.
  13. 0
    22 October 2021 09: 33
    does not name a specific event and does not provide a link to a critical article. In addition, officials of NATO countries and the organization as a whole do not raise the topic of the "Perimeter" and do not demand to ban it.

    That is, the conversation is literally about nothing. From the word "absolutely".
    such ideas are still only discussed in some circles and have not yet received the support of officials in responsible positions

    In some circles, the idea of ​​a flat earth or a hypothetical "secret world government" from among the reptilian aliens is also being discussed.
    Hence a very simple conclusion - until "such ideas" have not "received the support of officials in responsible posts" and have not been expressed by these very responsible persons in their official capacity (as bearers of the respective posts) - you never know where what says. People are just expressing their personal opinions. But only. No matter how strange these opinions are.
  14. +2
    22 October 2021 10: 04
    Yes. Systems that have not passed mandatory WTO certification are unsafe and should be banned. Yes, and sanctions must be imposed.
    1. +1
      22 October 2021 13: 53
      You even put a smiley face, otherwise they will not understand your banter!)))
  15. +9
    22 October 2021 10: 40
    There is no AI in the "Perimeter", the system is super reliable and duplicated many times. Only those who are hatching plans for an unrequited attack on Russia can be afraid of it.
  16. +3
    22 October 2021 11: 04
    Well, whoever really wants to turn off the "Perimeter" - let him come and turn it off !!!
    Let's see how and what he does!
    Molon lave (ancient Greek Μολὼν λαβέ - come, take; approximate ancient Greek pronunciation molon labe, modern Greek - molon lave) is a catch phrase, the legendary response of the Spartan king Leonidas I to the written demand of the Persian ambassador to surrender weapons on the eve of the battle at Thermopylae.
  17. +2
    22 October 2021 12: 02
    Let the foreign specialists take themselves out of service - counter offer.)
  18. 0
    22 October 2021 12: 19
    and who is asking "foreign experts"? Are they against or for
  19. +4
    22 October 2021 12: 28
    Make the world and our existence secure. Dissolve NATO, remove US military bases from Europe and from the Russian perimeter, and we will turn off the Perimeter. We will turn it off, not destroy it, because we do not fully believe in you.
  20. Two
    +3
    22 October 2021 14: 23
    "Perimeter" needs to be improved and duplicated! Moreover, many times, to counteract in all environments! Come on bzdat!
  21. +1
    22 October 2021 14: 49
    From the bitter Russian experience, it turns out that there will always be a man in the country's leadership who, for various reasons (the desire to become the best German or American, concern about "earned" egg-backs, children who have taken root in the West, etc.) will turn off any supersystem , will hand over and sell everything, and tanks and mercenaries will shoot the dissatisfied.
  22. 0
    22 October 2021 14: 55
    I can imagine how our specialists would persuade the Americans to prohibit the LGM-30 Minuteman missile control system (as an option) or, for example, the Israelis. What needs to happen to be able to agree?
    Again the question is raised in delirium .................... and the stronger the delirium, the more massively it is discussed
    1. 0
      22 October 2021 19: 29
      Quote: APASUS
      missile control system LGM-30 Minuteman (optional)

      what is this "system"?
      there

      systems guidance to the block Management
      "Autoneсtics" from "Nord American"
      and the main computer there D.17
      / well, it was exactly
      "Disable" programmer placed on the conveyor?
  23. +2
    22 October 2021 17: 12
    In fact, this system, on the contrary, was modernized, I do not remember the name of the media, but ten years ago a note slipped there. Incidentally, Russia's military doctrine omits the possibility of not being the first to use nuclear weapons. They say something that they will not use, they say, but nothing more. And yet, did anyone pay attention to the power of the computer in the control center of the nuclear forces of Russia. A year ago, there was a passing note in the news of the Russia channel that its speed and data processing power was more than an order of magnitude faster than the most powerful supercomputers in the world at that time? high readiness for use. So who knows what Russia has in stock of weapons that are not mentioned. And American intelligence is no longer a cake.
    Also, you don't know American citizens. If even a few dozen blocs hit the territory of the United States, its citizens themselves, out of horror and fear for their own lives, dismantle America, a continuous robbery of everything and banditry will begin, and even the National Guard will not be able to do anything if it does not become like its citizens at all. US bases outside the country are not to be envied either. Seeing that the United States is advancing the Khan, there are many who want to settle scores with them. And without support from the mainland, they will definitely end. In addition, the financial system based on the American dollar will collapse.
    America will no longer have the old world of prosperity and wealth. Wealthy Americans will be caught as the source of many troubles, and those who sit somewhere will no longer have real power.
    And yet, what if Poseidon's torpedoes carry cobalt along with a nuclear charge?
    When hitting the coasts, where the lion's mass of the population lives, he will turn this zone forever, into a lifeless desert. It will become impossible to live on the territory of America. This, too, cannot be ruled out. Yes, and the power in Russia is not romantics, these guys stand on ceremony, they will not stand on ceremony when making a decision, since they understand that their life and the life of all the people of our country are at stake.
  24. +1
    22 October 2021 17: 41
    "Perimeter" is the right system, made on time, and now properly modernized.
  25. -1
    22 October 2021 17: 51
    I think it is very unlikely that Russia engages in bans of new technologies or systems, in the future military agreements about nuclear or conventional weapons.
    1. 0
      23 October 2021 00: 01
      As i see, there is nobody who is going to conclude any agreements in strategic field, So it is hardly to say about any future military agreements between US and RF nearest time, On the ther hand VVP several times told abut asimmetric answer, but nobody wants to hear ..
  26. -1
    22 October 2021 19: 24
    Quote: Ryabov Kirill
    In case of a disarming and decapitating nuclear missile strike from a potential enemy, the "Perimeter" command and control complex has been created in our country. In a critical situation, he must take control of strategic nuclear forces and carry out a retaliatory strike.

    you can ask the author to explain HOW
    he must take control of strategic nuclear forces and carry out a retaliatory strike

    ?
    from a technical point of view.
    1. 0
      22 October 2021 21: 58
      "And maybe also give the key to the apartment where the money is?" The "perimeter" should be feared (and very much) by those who fantasize about a disarming first strike against our country. He does not threaten anyone else. Let them sleep well.
      1. -1
        22 October 2021 22: 17
        Quote: hiller
        "And maybe also give the key to the apartment where the money is?"

        are you the author?
        I'm talking about AzBukiVedi for the deer, and you about the keys.
        Quote: hiller
        He does not threaten anyone else. Let them sleep well.

        they sleep well, because, probably, he is not there (meaningless), but they only puff with us, hanging noodles about their concern
        Quote: Ryabov Kirill

        Foreign experts against the Russian system "Perimeter"

        What are the "foreign" (name, title)?
        when?
        experts in what field?
        how are they opposed?
        links? Sources?
        In my opinion, that's why Ryabov has nothing to do and writes gag, every day
      2. 0
        23 October 2021 19: 35
        I just mean that publishing details about the Perimeter system "from a technical point of view" on this site is the height of recklessness .. That's all. Suffice it to say that it is a "back-up system". And the service crews are quite confident in its reliability and ability to fulfill the assigned tasks "in any conditions of the situation." hi
    2. 0
      22 October 2021 23: 27
      in amerskoy cinema about Skynet everything was clearly shown;)
      1. -1
        23 October 2021 00: 00
        Quote: Napayz
        in amerskoy cinema about Skynet everything was clearly shown;)

        about "Perimeter" belay
        Have you seen your brother in sunglasses?

        To concretize: I am interested in item 2 "flies and broadcasts"
        1. +1
          23 October 2021 09: 16
          As I understand it, abstract thinking is tight ((((
          1. -2
            23 October 2021 11: 11
            Quote: Napayz
            As I understand it, abstract thinking is tight ((((

            What are you, also know how to understand, acrome only to write?
            today tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Or rather, not only everyone can watch, very few people can do it

            you have one absurd thinking here, as I can see

            ?
            1. -1
              23 October 2021 14: 45
              you also know how to understand

              you have one absurd thinking here, as I can see

              laughing Well, come on, get it, what are you going to measure there good
    3. 0
      23 October 2021 11: 37
      Quote: ja-ja-vw
      from a technical point of view.

      Here it will be more detailed.
      https://topwar.ru/127861-perimetr-sistema-otvetnogo-yadernogo-udara.html
      1. -1
        23 October 2021 11: 59
        Quote: region58
        Here it will be more detailed.

        I know.
        I have questions:
        1. a "decapitation strike" occurred. there is terrible ionizing radiation around, communication is broken, EMP passed (everything burned out that is not shielded) in the air there is continuous interference, there is no communication with satellites, the inosphere is a continuous "dipole"
        watching just ONE HARDTACK-Teak in 1958
        2. Let the "Perimeter" or "Perimeter-RC" / "Siren" automatics work. Identifying a nuclear strike is not that difficult.
        3. The command missile complex (15P011) of the Perimeter system (15E601) gave the command to launch the 15A11 missile, or 15P175 to launch 15Zh58 with the Topol PGRK
        4. The 15A11 rocket brought the 15B99 SCH to the top of the trajectory at an altitude of about 4000 km, with a total range along the trajectory of 4500 km.
        ALL THIS IS ABOVE THE IONOSPHERE.
        "the rocket broadcasts to all launchers" launch, launch, launch according to an adversary "
        Do they hear her?
        There is porridge in the ionosphere, it will gurgle for another week, even if you "fly" lower (and does not know how to display Mon 15A15) 85 km, there is still a collapse of radio communications.
        So I want to know: 1,3,4-why is it all?
        Shielded cable with redundancy, will make everything easier, cheaper and more reliable
        1. 0
          23 October 2021 12: 32
          Quote: ja-ja-vw
          Shielded cable with redundancy, will make everything easier, cheaper and more reliable

          You cannot lay a cable to submarines, mobile complexes, aircraft.
          Trajectories, frequencies, algorithms, and other technical turbulence - who can tell us about this? It's just a guess ... and this is a thankless task.
          1. 0
            23 October 2021 12: 51
            Quote: region58
            You cannot lay a cable to submarines, mobile complexes, aircraft.

            SGCH 15B99 will not reach the nuclear submarine either.
            they have a "package", open and go to the area of ​​the launch, the nuclear submarine after "decided to shoot" will not get in touch with anyone, any signal from outside: sabotage
            aviation, if not in the air, I suppose it will cease to exist
            there was a "decapitation blow".
            Quote: region58
            It's just a guess ... and this is a thankless task.

            The human brain performs higher mental functions, including thinking. One of the functions of the human brain is the perception and generation of speech (and now we can say scribbling)
            CЕЌgitЕЌ ergЕЌ sum
            / Descartes, if that
            over there
            Quote: Napayz
            with abstract thinking

            the truth is in no hurry to shine
            1. -1
              23 October 2021 13: 53
              Quote: ja-ja-vw
              perception and generation of speech (and now you can say scribbling)

              Generate scribble? Well, you can immediately assume a couple of options for communication, but will these assumptions correspond to the real state of affairs? Unlikely. So why trample Claudia? To litter the forum for many with incomprehensible terms is also probably not worth it ... So ...

              PS The impact of EMR on the hardware is in most cases greatly exaggerated.
              1. +1
                23 October 2021 13: 57
                Quote: region58
                Generate scribble?

                it's about the purpose of the brain.
                Quote: region58
                To litter the forum for many with incomprehensible terms -

                recourse
                very deep for me, brain functions fail? What are the "terms", where is "rubbish"?
                "so that" is it better to insanely put plus / minus signs and be silent in a rag?
                Well, before that, not so much is left, we are somewhere at the level of 1933-34.
                "Congress of the winners" will be held, we'll see (silently)
                1. +1
                  23 October 2021 14: 08
                  Quote: ja-ja-vw
                  targeting the brain

                  Purpose is not least an analysis of where and what should or should not be written or said.
                  Quote: ja-ja-vw
                  very deep for me, brain functions fail? What are the "terms", where is "rubbish"?

                  Honestly, I did not understand what you mean. I just wanted to say that if we develop the topic, then we will inevitably come to very specific formulas and terms that are not interesting to the majority of those who are here.

                  PS I look, they have added their comment. I am specifically talking about the technical side of the conversation, and you have already turned to "gulags" ...
                  1. +1
                    23 October 2021 14: 41
                    I, frankly, did not see the "technical side".
                    Oh well.
                    And "gulagi" is for a message
                    Quote: region58
                    So why trample Claudia?

                    by the way, so to speak.
                    Well, since no means no. Good luck
        2. AML
          0
          26 October 2021 08: 43
          Somewhere in the vastness of YouTube there is a tour of a missile silo located in Ukraine. What he saw made an impression. We took care of everything.
          The rocket could start with a delay. The environment was monitored and the rocket waited for the moment when it could safely launch. Well, if she arrives now or in a week, it is already unprincipled.
          Essno all command posts were connected by wired communication. The command missile is already a control.

          As for the unacceptable damage. If the Dnieper River in Ukraine is destroyed, then the country will suffer unacceptable damage and it is unlikely to wake up. Half of the country will simply wash away. So it is not necessary for every 5 sq. Km to have its own vigorous loaf. It is enough to damage the infrastructure. Ukraine and Dniproges as an example and without any calls.
          By the way, it is not necessary to bomb the nuclear power plant, it is enough to destroy the ballasts and the nuclear power plant will have to be extinguished.
          1. 0
            26 October 2021 10: 02
            Quote: AML
            Somewhere in the vastness of YouTube there is a tour of a missile silo located in Ukraine. What he saw made an impression.

            Museum of Strategic Missile Forces Ukraine Kirovograd region Pobuzke

            gorgeous place. Been there before
            Quote: AML
            The rocket could start with a delay. The environment was monitored and the rocket waited for the moment when it could safely launch. Well, if she arrives now or in a week, it is already unprincipled.

            1. it is easier to put sensors for "disarming shock" and a simple "timer".
            There is no cancellation, there is no START-10 treaty, no one comes to check the "rocket", a week later - broads out all the remaining mbr.
            no where or any rocket should "fly" nge.
            2. During the "week" all the remaining mines will be opened and the covers will be handed over for scrap.
            The positions are known.
        3. 0
          19 February 2022 15: 59
          Yes This can only be issued by the USE student. There, completely different principles are laid down; there is not that mura that has flourished here. Think with your head what kind of radio communication.
    4. 0
      25 October 2021 23: 05
      Quote: ja-ja-vw
      you can ask the author to explain HOW

      I am not the Author either, just a guess: most likely this is a fancy alarm clock, but with an additional relay that initiates a retaliatory strike in case of non-acknowledgment of the alarm.
      1. +1
        26 October 2021 00: 50
        Quote: Motorist
        this is a fancy alarm clock, but with an additional relay that initiates a retaliatory blow

        it is clear to me. Unclear
        Quote: ja-ja-vw
        3. The command missile complex (15P011) of the Perimeter system (15E601) gave the command to launch the 15A11 missile, or 15P175 to launch 15Zh58 with the Topol PGRK
        4. The 15A11 rocket brought the 15B99 SCH to the hill of the trajectory top at an altitude of about 4000 km, with a total range along the trajectory of 4500 km.
        ALL THIS IS ABOVE THE IONOSPHERE.
        "the rocket broadcasts to all launchers" launch, launch, launch according to an adversary "
        Do they hear her?
        There is porridge in the ionosphere, it will gurgle for another week, even if you "fly" lower (and does not know how to display Mon 15A15) 85 km, there is still a collapse of radio communications.
        So I want to know: 1,3,4-why is it all?
        Shielded cable with redundancy, will make everything easier, cheaper and more reliable
        1. 0
          26 October 2021 21: 50
          Quote: ja-ja-vw
          There is porridge in the ionosphere, it will gurgle for another week, even if you "fly" lower (and does not know how to display Mon 15A15) 85 km, there is still a collapse of radio communications.

          It’s hard for me to guess - I’m not a communications operator ... Maybe some other methods of data transmission based on new physical principles? Gravitational waves? Maser lasers? what
          1. 0
            26 October 2021 21: 57
            Quote: Motorist
            based on new physical principles? Gravitational waves?

            here I am not an expert. I have a classic Soviet education.
            And vague doubts torment me

            somehow does not fit with the "new physical principles"
            On February 11, 2016, scientists from the LIGO project announced that for the first time in history they were able to directly detect gravitational waves ... 1,3 billion years ago, far, far from Earth, two black holes approached and after another 20 ms merged together. Due to the colossal energy released during the collision, space-time itself rippled in all directions from the crash site. On September 14, 2015 at 13:51 Moscow time, these waves reached the Earth at the speed of light.

            In multi-kilometer tunnels on opposite ends of the USA - some of the most complex engineering projects in the world - one after another the mirrors trembled. The oscillation of the mirrors was almost imperceptible - with an amplitude of 10-19 m. This is as much less than the size of an atom, as much as an orange is smaller than our planet.


            request
            1. +1
              26 October 2021 22: 13
              Quote: ja-ja-vw
              And vague doubts torment me

              I do not presume to judge the Nobel Prize in physics, but some nominations give rise to doubts about the objectivity of the committee.

              Quote: ja-ja-vw
              In the many kilometers of tunnels on opposite ends of the United States - one of the most complex engineering objects in the world - mirrors began to tremble one after another.

              That's it: even their mirrors are shaking from checking the communications of our signal rocket! bully
              1. -2
                26 October 2021 22: 24
                Quote: Motorist
                I do not presume to judge the Nobel Prize in physics, but some nominations give a reason

                take only physics, mathematics (as if it does not exist) and chemistry, all sorts of genetics have nothing to do with the "perimeter".
                I understand you are talking about "obamovism" and "gorbachevism", but this slag has nothing to do with the "perimeter".
                Quote: Motorist
                are shaking from checking the connection of our flare!

                I doubt it however.
                We have a lot of people, olgo and thoughtlessly, they heard Zadornov, the deceased:
                "Americans are stupid"
                This is not true
                1. 0
                  26 October 2021 22: 43
                  Quote: ja-ja-vw
                  I doubt however

                  I do not know either. Maybe there is no command missile at all. Maybe power cables are transmitting information. Or by pneumatic pigeon mail. And the Author does not know - otherwise he would not have written here.

                  Quote: ja-ja-vw
                  We have a lot of people olgo and thoughtlessly heard Zadornov, the deceased

                  There is no need to humiliate Zadornov and his audience - this also has nothing to do with the Perimeter.
            2. AML
              0
              26 October 2021 23: 15
              You open a physics textbook and there are only Germans and Russians, but for some reason the Americans have Nobel Prizes. I wonder why.

              As for physics. All modern physics is a forgery. We do not know what it is, so we will call it black energy / matter. And then they operate with this blackness in full, as if it were a proven fact. Here, many will go out in snot, on the topic of the big bang. But the fact that this is only a theory for them does not matter.
              1. -2
                26 October 2021 23: 31
                Quote: AML
                You open a physics textbook and there are only Germans and Russians all over the place

                opened (textbook)?
                Peltier phenomenon, Newton's laws, Doppler effect, theorem Ostrogradsky-Gauss, Gauss himself with his gadgets, Fermat's theorem, Stokes, Green, Pauli's principle, Bohr's postulates, Carnot cycle, Maxwell's demon, Rutherford's model of the atom, Planck's formula, Galileo transformations, Heisenberg's uncertainty relation, Einstein's equation, Watt's regulator, Morse apparatus, Wood alloy, Van der Graff generator, Young's modulus, Lorentz force, Boltzmann constant, Avogadro number, Gruneisen constant, Joule and Faraday, Watt (fucking Watt), Bernoulli equation, Laval nozzle, Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and etc. and so on.
                Oh yes "Vavilov-Cherenkov counter"
                Quote: AML
                Oh, here's the Nobel Prize for some reason from the Americans. I wonder why.

                but I wonder why:
                Leonard Euler, Daniel and Nicholas Bernoulli, who their main scientific works performed at the Russian Academy?
                Quote: AML
                As for physics. All modern physics is a forgery.

                I'm against. The earth is flat, some rests on turtles, and they are on a whale, and everything floats where "that" is. Yes, and you do not need to be vaccinated because there are chips and infertility.
                1. AML
                  0
                  26 October 2021 23: 42
                  I still do not understand, all the persons listed by you, should I be considered Americans? Nobel laureates?

                  The fact that you are against is your own business. Maybe you're just coma and you have glitches.
                  1. -2
                    27 October 2021 00: 03
                    Quote: AML
                    I still do not understand, all the persons listed by you, should I be considered Americans?

                    Of course the Russians!
                    what kind of Jews can come up with this? Ali vile Anglicas?
                    Quote: AML
                    Nobel laureates?

                    maybe you reread
                    Quote: AML
                    physics textbook and solid

                    but the Nobel Prize, as it were in 1901, started, if not forgotten, and most (substantially)
                    Quote: AML
                    , all the persons listed by you,

                    they seem to be early, and partly even before the birth of Alfred.
                    Quote: AML
                    it's your own business. Maybe you're just coma and you have glitches.

                    so I don’t insist, and I don’t call anyone to the 5th dimension, I’m not bad here either
  27. +3
    22 October 2021 20: 04
    "The Perimeter has no property abroad" (c) - this is the main reason for the "worried about". IMHO
  28. 0
    22 October 2021 21: 50
    Well, let them ban it. If they can)
  29. 0
    22 October 2021 23: 25
    A bit out of topic, or rather, not at all into it. Why are the US-Schniki scared to demand something there, but they themselves have not liquidated their stocks of chemical weapons?
    1. -1
      23 October 2021 13: 08
      Quote: Napayz
      Why are the US-Schniki scared to demand something there, but they themselves have not liquidated their stocks of chemical weapons?

      1. In 1997, the United States had 28 metric tons of first category toxic substances (mustard gas and mixtures based on it, VX, sarin), and the Russian army had about 572 thousand tons of prohibited substances
      2. Yeltsin on March 21, 1996 adopted the FTP "Destruction of chemical weapons stockpiles in the Russian Federation" with increased obligations (in terms of time), and the United States did not (they did not need to be in time by 2020)
      3. In the early 2000s, the United States, Great Britain, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy and Canada allocated more than $ 1 billion to the Russian program for the disposal of chemical weapons, and the United States did not provide anything
      4. As of October 31, 2008, Moscow has completely eliminated the second and third categories and 29,79% of the first category weapons... By this point, the United States had gotten rid of from the third category of toxic substances and disposed of 55,79% of weapons of the first category.
      According to open sources, in 2012, the United States eliminated 90% of the chemical arsenal.
      4.On September 27, 2017, Russia completed the elimination of its arsenal of chemical weapons (the last reworked shells with VX and lewisite)
      10% of the remaining toxic agents in the US arsenal will be eliminated as part of the Alternative Equipped Chemical Weapons Program by the end of 2023. The ammunition to be eliminated is now stored in warehouses in Pueblo (Colorado) and Blue Grasse (Kentucky).
      who demands? what does it require?
      Quote: ja-ja-vw
      Quote: Ryabov Kirill

      Foreign experts against the Russian system "Perimeter"

      What are the "foreign" (name, title)?
      when?
      experts in what field?
      how are they opposed?
      links? Sources?

      Quote: Napayz
      As I understand it, with abstract concrete-objective thinking is tight ((((

      all power went to "abstract"?
      1. 0
        23 October 2021 13: 54
        Vice President of the Academy for Security, Defense and Law Enforcement Problems, Doctor of Technical Sciences Tengiz Borisov, in an interview with RT, stated that the United States is in no hurry with the disposal process. In his opinion, Washington's lag in terms of time indicates a lack of political will and understanding of the importance of the problem.

        “Yes, it is obvious that the Americans are in no hurry with disposal and are much cooler than Russia in the timing of their obligations. Of course, this state of affairs does not look very normal. But I don't think there is any special political or military motive here. ", - said the expert.
        Borisov explained that the use of chemical weapons on the battlefield is meaningless because of the extremely low effectiveness against regular troops - nowadays, poisonous substances can only be used as a means of intimidating civilians.

        “The difference in the timing of disposal can be explained by a different approach to the issue. Russia, unlike the United States, has taken on heightened commitments and, probably, made every effort. I would even say that it was an excessive effort. We do not observe anything like this from the American side, ”the expert summed up.
        1. -1
          23 October 2021 14: 07
          Quote: Napayz
          Vice President of the Academy of Security, Defense and Law Enforcement Problems, Doctor of Technical Sciences Tengiz Borisov, in an interview with RT, stated

          Academician of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences is great.
          RT Simonyan-fuu.
          I give you facts, and you give me vinaigrette
          Quote: Napayz
          Yes, it is obvious that the Americans are in no hurry with recycling and are much cooler,

          a typical example of "abstract thinking",
  30. -1
    23 October 2021 04: 15
    "We are then in paradise, and they will simply die!" ))) - V.V. Putin
  31. 0
    23 October 2021 11: 41
    Can we fuck it?
  32. 0
    23 October 2021 12: 14
    It is very pleasant that our western partners are burning one place. Hemorrhoids are treated, of course, but not always. I wish them to burn further.
  33. 0
    23 October 2021 13: 46
    Don't like your enemies? So we are doing everything right.
  34. 0
    23 October 2021 18: 10
    A very reliable, maximum electronic (lamp-based) system ...
    Oops blabbed ...
  35. 0
    23 October 2021 20: 23
    Quote: ja-ja-vw
    I know.
    I have questions:

    Do you seriously believe that only command missiles will interact with the launch sites?
    About the cable - can you tell me the depth of the installation? I already had to explain that it is not being laid at 10 m depth.
    The control system has been repeatedly tested and is fully functional.
    But I really would like to know about "foreign specialists" and by name. Otherwise, the author drives a blizzard, runs into a HYIP.
  36. 0
    23 October 2021 22: 29
    Thanks to individual officers of the Strategic Missile Forces, who defended the "Perimeter" (and during the reign of the alcohol puppet of the West, there were real attempts to destroy it on orders from above).
  37. 0
    24 October 2021 00: 16
    not die when you don't want to !!!!!!!!!!!!
  38. 0
    24 October 2021 11: 43
    In any social formation, "the weakest link is a person" (he will betray, sell, his above the public, my grandchildren (children) must live, "they did not give a damn about my soul" ....)
    90 percent of the bureaucracy (of all formations) is concerned about their well-being, of which a third will gladly sell this country, even with its population.
  39. -1
    24 October 2021 12: 54
    The fears of foreign experts are completely justified. The "corporate culture" of the Strategic Missile Forces is a complete bungling, indifference and careless attitude to weapons, starting with items of engineering weapons, entrenching tools.
    For example, take the central command post of the Strategic Missile Forces. During the Cold War, a certain General Novikov carried a sledgehammer to this security facility, arguing that if at hour X the safe with codes does not open, he will knock the lock with a hammer. On the other hand, at hour X it is quite possible to hit someone on the head with the same sledgehammer. For example, the general on duty. A sledgehammer is a trenching tool, like a sapper shovel, ax, crowbar, and hook. Soldiers in the Great Patriotic War went to hand-to-hand with axes, sapper blades, sledgehammers. That is, an entrenching tool for a real warrior is also a weapon. So General Novikov was not enough that he carried the weapon into the bunker. The sledgehammer seems to be there to this day, a tradition, the General Staff legalized. It would be better if they hung axes on the walls there, it would be even cooler. Just a doomsday hammer, not a sledgehammer.
  40. 0
    24 October 2021 20: 54
    Great system. Enemies should know what will come to them in any outcome.
  41. 0
    24 October 2021 21: 56
    Endless discussion of what the shameful wolves say. Think of Little Red Riding Hood, Three Little Pigs, Wolf and Seven Little Kids. Western wolves are hungry, deceitful, grin all the time and talk a lot. How long can you step on the same rake)))
    Full moon meditation is an indicator of belonging to wolf epigenetics.
    barbaru
    urbara [WOLF] wr. ur-bar-ra "wolf" Akk. barbaru
    Sumerian-Akkadian Dictionary

  42. -1
    24 October 2021 22: 24
    Well, who would have doubted. The civilized community led by the United States is in favor of disarming Russia down to forks and knives. But who will listen to them, sad ones?
  43. 0
    29 October 2021 14: 22
    Strategic Missile Forces forward.
  44. 0
    29 October 2021 22: 16
    These are their problems....
  45. 0
    1 November 2021 14: 45
    We also vowed to destroy all chemical weapons, but things are still there ... they only hid ... 3-4 Poseidons are enough for Europe and 80% will be washed away by a radiation wave ..
    1. 0
      1 November 2021 14: 46
      americans ...
  46. 0
    7 November 2021 22: 08
    And who cares about their concern with the "Perimeter", do not want to experience its effect on yourself, do not threaten Russia, served in the Strategic Missile Forces (1974-1976) РЭЗМ
  47. 0
    22 November 2021 11: 29
    The person who wrote this article, that somewhere he heard (from a drunken leitehi .. from a technical shift) about the "Perimeter" system, it's good, he won't give Western military analysts how everything is actually organized.
  48. 0
    4 December 2021 19: 05
    The most interesting thing is that the United States does not ask anyone for opinion and consent on what to do. They act as they see fit, hiding behind the slogan of protecting the interests of their citizens. Their meanness and deceit have already been repeatedly shown in the past. And this does not prevent them from dictating their terms to others in the most impudent way. As in that joke: he shit under the neighbor's door, called him and demanded to clean it up.
  49. 0
    18 December 2021 02: 21
    The system is correct ... .Let them think before making decisions ....
  50. 0
    19 December 2021 07: 35
    We, such a World, do not need Russia without Russia ... as VVP said.
  51. 0
    19 December 2021 12: 22
    In my opinion, the complex has nothing to do with it, the very existence of Russia is the main concern of the West. And the complex is like a guillotine, you stick around without a head.
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  54. 0
    17 January 2022 09: 22
    We were daydreaming. Let them hand over their nuclear weapons to us for disposal, then the system can be taken off duty and put into storage.
  55. 0
    23 January 2022 10: 31
    A person can always be bought, intimidated, deceived, and finally killed, as was the case in Iraq, when a once powerful army dissolved like water in sand. Let them try to negotiate or intimidate Perimeter.
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    28 January 2022 07: 30
    ////Foreign specialists against the Russian “Perimeter” system////
  59. 0
    28 January 2022 18: 05
    Russia is the nation of Plekhanov, Lenin, Stalin and Putin, Chernyshevsky and Belinsky, Pushkin and Tolstoy, Glinka and Tchaikovsky, Gorky and Chekhov, Mendeleev, Sechenov and Pavlov, Levitan, Shishkin and Surikov, Suvorov, Kutuzov and Zhukov, Tsialkovsky and Gagarin, homeland heroes of Krasnodon and Donbass. The list of great people of Russia and the world can be continued for a long time.”
    Homosexuals (various high-like Teresas, Boris, Blinkins and various defense ministers, ladies, ladies and gentlemen) think carefully before threatening Russia with your ridiculous “difficult”, “terrible consequences”. You unleashed two world wars in Europe, destroyed the state of Yugoslavia by bombing, and are starting wars in the former colonies in the East. Russia has never attacked anyone. Now you have come up with a false delusional justification for your aggression and want to start a war of extermination? You will receive it.
    Russia deserves that historians should name a new continent as a civilization by the name of Russia, and not call Russia inaccurately: Eurasia. After all, there is no continent of Afroasia, etc.
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      2 February 2022 20: 40
      You forgot that it is still a nation of Stalin, Gorbachev and Yeltsin. It's not good to throw words out of our songs!
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    29 January 2022 00: 27
    Creepy AI system. But very necessary.
  61. 0
    2 February 2022 20: 37
    Foreign experts against the Russian Perimeter system offer peace, friendship and chewing gum. But they forgot that our hucksters who are building capitalism cannot be fooled like the naive, drunken and drunken Soviet people with an alcoholic leader with a simple Russian name Boris.
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