They are again working with Soviet-style equipment: a modernized BMP-1M infantry fighting vehicle was presented in Ukraine

In Ukraine, they continue to develop options for the modernization of Soviet technology, trying to create modern weapons on its basis. A presentation of new developments based on the BMP-1 and BTR-60 was presented by the Kiev company "Praktika", which is a manufacturer of special automotive equipment.

The new developments were shown to the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Alexey Danilov, who visited the enterprise. Of the samples presented, attention is drawn to a new infantry fighting vehicle developed on the basis of the Soviet BMP-1 with "a radical rethinking of the original concept."

As stated, the new BMP received a different troop compartment with landing seats located along the sides, the rear doors-fuel tanks were replaced with a folding ramp, and the height of the vehicle was also increased. The main difference from the Soviet BMP is the installation of a new module "Spear-Sintez" of Ukrainian design. The armament of the module includes a 30-mm automatic cannon, a 7,62-mm machine gun, a 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, an ATGM Barrier with two missiles and six 81-mm launchers of smoke aerosol grenades.

In addition, Danilov was shown a modernized BTR-60M called "Khorunzhiy". As stated by the developers of the armored personnel carrier, this vehicle is a "deep modernization" of the BTR-60. The car retained its "native" suspension, but the engine was replaced. Instead of two engines, one Deutz diesel engine with an Allison automatic transmission is installed, and in the front of the car. The airborne compartment has been increased, and it is also announced that the armor and mine protection will be increased.

Well, for a snack, the Ukrainian armored vehicle "Kozak 2M1" was presented with a Turkish-made SARP NSV Aselsan remotely controlled combat module installed.

Comments

[teptyar]

well that's it! peremoga!

[Finches]

Dexterously they turn out the technique with masking tape to glue figuratively! Deep modernization!

[knn54]

Yes, where is there to "Armata", "Boomerang", "Kurganets".

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Exactly, now all this wealth will pour into the troops in a wide wave!

[Aaron Zawi]

It's important to develop this, but it's much more important to launch the series.

[Mountain shooter]

Develop more. The main thing is more expensive. When it comes to the series - write

[NDR-791]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Develop more. The main thing is more expensive. When it comes to the series - write

Will not reach I looked stupidly at Wiki, they have 600 employees there, including management. And starting from 91, for the most part, all products are in ONE copy. But since 19, we have the status of a special exporter - we will sell everything that is not rusty first of all, but first we will paint the rusty one, then we will also sell it.

[mark1]

And Cho, everything is beautiful and clear (in the case of the BMP-1). With the BTR-60 - is it worth the candle?

[Graz]

Quote: mark1

With the BTR-60 - is it worth the candle?

I would not be surprised if such an upgrade would cost more than building their new BTR3,4.

[bk0010]

Quote: mark1

And Cho, everything is beautiful and clear (in the case of the BMP-1).

Yes? And here it is completely incomprehensible to me what is left of the BMP-1. Isn't it easier to cook a new one right away than to redo everything?

[mark1]

It is a pity that you do not understand, even this article perfectly describes the scale of (minor) alterations, by the way, in the image and likeness of Czech modernization. it is not necessary to nail, brand and hoot absolutely everything zhevto-blockit, sometimes you should think and evaluate first.

[I am not a robot]

I think it's a good modernization of the bmp-1, but it's also not worth mentioning minor alterations,
and how much did the alteration cost in comparison with the new BMP

[75 Sergey]

It is a pity that there is still something to modernize, I was hoping that they had not already sold everything ...

[Nexcom]

physically it was not possible to sell everything. Something LPR-DPR damaged or destroyed, something the Sumerians themselves made unusable during operation. Again, probably there is still some kind of NZ.
Soviet equipment was bought from Bulgarians and Czechs.
something like this ...

[prior]

The coolest know-how is the yellow "handbrake" of the wheeled armored personnel carrier.
He stopped, jumped out, put on the handbrake.
We must get under way - quickly jumped out, removed, drove off.
Simple, convenient, reliable.

[alexniko77]

yes, the shoe is semi-automatic

[Alexga]

And where do they pour fuel with such a conversion? Or did you go along the way to do everything the other way around, from what happened? Well, damn it, craftsmen!

[Nexcom]

I join. Indeed, where did they move the fuel tanks? inside perhaps next to the landing party ??

[alexniko77]

The main tank there, in the troop compartment, was always (in the center of the compartment, between the backs of the seats, trapezoidal), something like this ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: AlexGa

And where do they pour fuel with such a conversion?

And what is the fuel for there ??? Stands for itself at the exhibition, moves from place to place in a purely European way on a trailer

[Nexcom]

you want to say on the pusher on the trailer is being shoved? nope, well, for such cases, at least a very small fuel tank should be - start clean, drive into the trailer, move off the trailer, position yourself at the exhibition. Or do you think that they still roll her in their arms?

[NDR-791]

Quote: Nexcom

well, for such cases, at least a very small fuel tank should be - start clean, drive into a trailer, move off a trailer

"Everything is accounted for by a mighty hurricane." The tank is built into the engine !!!

[Alexga]

There, the coarse filter has a place for a ma-a-scarlet canister.

[valentine light]

The question should be asked "not where?" , but "where will they get the fuel?"

[Cat]

where will the fuel come from

That's right, in the absence of fuel, fuel tanks are an unnecessary and unnecessary part of the structure. Such a constructive solution allows to reduce weight and increase fire safety.
In the development of this concept, I also propose to dismantle the undercarriage - this will seriously complicate the getting of the newest samples into the grabbing paws of the separatists

[valentine light]

Oh .... you can laugh about fire safety.
In fact, there is no solarium, there is no risk of ingress and fire :))

[zenion]

This has to be invented. The motor runs on straw and dung. Catching up with him is impossible if you push him all day.

[Eug]

In Ukraine, a long time ago (6 years for sure, maybe even earlier) a heavy infantry fighting vehicle based on the T-64 was made. I cannot understand what prevents to put her release on stream.

[Nexcom]

what prevents to put her outlet on stream

all the same - to steal ...

[demiurg]

Lack of tank corps. Look for Klotch's Gum. Everything that can be put into operation has been delivered.

And no money will be enough for the military if all the heavy infantry fighting vehicles are not transplanted. Can you imagine the consumption of diesel fuel and consumables at least for a battalion?

[Morglenn]

I think because of the price. There is such a volume of changes that it is most likely worth a new tank. After all, in fact, only the chassis of the T-64 remains. And that is not completely

[valentine light]

About 25 pieces of these BMPV-64s were produced.
For the release you need materials - specialty steel, electronic components, skilled workers and money.
They tank "oplot" to establish production can not.
But this product is certainly more promising than the BMP-1, even the modernized one.
So there is no need to gloat or relax - Ukrainian officials have repeatedly announced aggressive plans ..
It is necessary to treat it carefully, to work out the options for counteraction, but without the "hapless".

[I am not a robot]

maybe labor intensity and manufacturing cost, as well as a good BMP,

[Eug]

So I’m talking about the same thing, on a superficial (I can’t look for others) look in comparison with other heavy infantry fighting vehicles looks much more interesting. Yes, and the T-64 did not seem to be sold abroad, there should be a lot in the bins ...

[rocket757]

They are again working with Soviet-style equipment: a modernized BMP-1M infantry fighting vehicle was presented in Ukraine

... The side of the noisy desovetizators .... what are they, what are they talking about ???

[rotmistr60]

continue to develop options for the modernization of Soviet technology

How many have already been spoken and negotiated on the topic of the "latest samples" of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. There is nothing new, all that is presented from year to year are attempts to modify Soviet technology (where does the supervisory body of de-Sovietization look?). They get by with minimal costs, and victorious reports are at the level of the fifth generation and hypersound.

[Nexcom]

but the paint and paint companies are thriving.

[Vadim Ananyin]

Well, in general, another sketch, there are already many, for many years a trend

[TermNachTer]

I wonder who will service and repair German diesel engines and American automatic transmissions? There are no branded services in Banderland. Or will they be repaired in brigade repairs?)))) On the old suspension of the armored personnel carrier - 60, they hung twice as much weight as it was - an excellent modernization))) nobody heard about Praktika until 2015, and then they immediately "threw it down "orders from MO. In general, what is needed for a veterinarian - secretary of the NSDC)))

[Morglenn]

Modernization of the BMP-1 is interesting. Much better than the flawed "Busurmanin". Russia is worth learning. But the modernization of the Btr-60 has no chance of life. There are so many changes that at the price it will be like a new armored personnel carrier. Purely economically inexpedient.

[I am not a robot]

flawed basurmanin is a budget modernization, in the presence of BMP-3, etc.
but the Ukrainians have nothing else, so they have to go out of their way
and what does this modernized btr-60 look like, what was done with the hatches
ps. saw below in the comments: this is called an upgrade or something

[valentine light]

Why is the BTR 60, and not the BA-10, which could move both on wheels and on quick-detachable tracks, and the sides and forehead of the tower are 10 mm, instead of 8 mm., The gun is as much as 45 mm and the power reserve is 200 km.
Beauty and yet better than the English decommissioned Saxon coffins bought by Poroshenko.

[Cat]

radical rethinking of the original concept

For what?

[pytar]

At the arms exhibition “Digital Future of the Army”, from 13 to 17 October, the private company Praktika presented a new Ukrainian armored personnel carrier - BTR-60XM “Khorunzhy”, which is a modernization of the BTR-60.
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Note: I was always amazed at what a huge modernization potential was laid in Soviet developments!

[Morglenn]

The video does not say a word about weapons. What kind of drin is there in the tower of the sixty?

[pytar]

The video does not say a word about weapons. What kind of drin is there in the tower of the sixty?

Didn't find info. At first I thought that the tower was from the BMP-1, and the gun was a 73 mm smoothbore, but there are external differences.

[Alexander 3]

The designers had the task of making the car as cheaply as possible, in my opinion they succeeded. In Donbass they will fire at and study. In Donbas, from a cliff, a T 65 tank was knocked into the side, because the metal was not the same in the area of ​​the engine. Outside, iron, but the quality?

[singless]

where did they get so much paint. repainting and repainting

[Nexcom]

where did they get so much paint. repainting and repainting

Duc humanitarian help from Western partners - skoch and paint heaps, at least repaint every week. at the same time, the achieved effect is enchanting - it looks like new at minimal cost.

PS in one part in my urgent one commander VERY loved to paint one conveyor before each check (fix with him that he is not a worker, the main thing is painted). and you know, it was rolling. Verification did not find any problems. Since Sumeria comes from the USSR, it is clear where such a passion to repaint everything comes from ...

[Timur_3]

Weird. All this is very strange.

[The cake is a lie]

... I saw how the wld was brewed. Stronghold. According to the rules, 30 mm rolled products are cooked in a joint at degrees. The photo shows that Uncle Vasya was cooking around the edges with an automatic machine. From here I draw conclusions low-level production technologists
And the BMP is made of ABT alloy armor, it is aluminum with a high magnesium content + many additives, its welding technology is almost secret.
1 where will they get rolled products of different thicknesses of ABT aluminum, what will they order in Russia?
2 the technology of welding is highly technological and even to cook on a large scale.
How will they increase the height and + ramp? even the air is very difficult to cook and the sheets are rolled 40mm and generally xs. I think the mass of the car has exhausted itself + ground pressure.

About the APC, I believe everything is simple there, take sheet steel and do what you want. and I doubt the BMP.
Although everything may be the factories were pumped, they bought equipment, trained specialists, developed the technology then maybe.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: The Cake is a Lie

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And the BMP is made of ABT alloy armor, it is aluminum with a high magnesium content + many additives, its welding technology is almost secret.
.

Institute of Electric Welding named after EO Patona is located in Kiev. Perhaps the technology of welding armored aluminum was developed there ...

Quote: The Cake is a Lie

I saw how the wld was brewed. Stronghold. According to the rules, 30 mm rolled products are cooked in a joint at degrees. The photo shows that Uncle Vasya was cooking around the edges with an automatic machine. From here I draw conclusions low-level production technologists
.

IES them. E.O. Patona rather dead than alive
Production technology at the tire service level.

[Nexcom]

I'll try to simplify.
you want to say that if a kinetic blank of a large enough caliber arrives, then everything will burst at the seams and crumble like a house of cards?

[NAIL77DM]

from dynamic loads during movement there is a deformation of the body

[NAIL77DM]

and where there is so much aluminum in the BMP, there is only ribbed luminous and so on little things

[GAndr]

But what about de-communization? Do not be ashamed to use the technique of the sworn communists.

[George Miloslavsky]

But what about the transition to NATO standards? PROBLEM however.

[Sergei N 58912062]

At least the "Korunzhiy" armored personnel carrier looks better than our BTR-87. And their modernization of the BMP-1 is better than our BMP-1AM "Basurmanin".