President Putin has declared the period from October 30 to November 7 "non-working days with pay-keeping"

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As expected, Russian President Vladimir Putin supported Tatyana Golikova's "proposal" to introduce days off in the country from October 30 to November 7 inclusive. In the state interpretation, this again sounds like "pay days off".

During a video meeting, which the President held with representatives of the Cabinet of Ministers today, he said that "such a weekend is advisable due to the fact that they will help break the chain of the spread of the virus." The statement is interesting, but somewhat strange. After all, we are again talking about the fact that the weekend will not touch everyone, to put it mildly. If representatives of budgetary organizations and structures go out on a paid weekend, then for millions of other working Russians “weekends with pay”, as in previous times, will remain only a figure of speech. After all, it is difficult to imagine maintaining wages in production, where every day of production is extremely important.



At the same time, Putin urged the regional headquarters "not to underestimate and not embellish the picture." These words of the president also evoke a certain response. If the president pronounces them, does this mean that this kind of underestimation of the real morbidity and embellishment of data on this matter takes place in certain regions. After all, if everything is transparent, then why is the head of state forced to pay special attention to this?

Vladimir Putin on embellishing the picture on COVID-19:

In today's situation, this is dangerous and irresponsible.

It is also noted that Vladimir Putin, addressing the Russians, noted the need to open a sick leave if there is a coronavirus patient in the family.

The heads of the regions, in terms of morbidity data, received from the president the authority to introduce the "paid days off" regime ahead of schedule.

The government previously indicated that in connection with the decisions made on additional days off, a set of measures to support business is being prepared. The State Duma said earlier that by the end of 2020, Russia "became the leader in terms of social support during the pandemic among all the GXNUMX countries."
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  1. +39
    20 October 2021 15: 52
    I still do not understand - who pays? Employer?
    1. +66
      20 October 2021 15: 55
      Especially close ones will receive state support, the rest - from their own pockets.
      1. +10
        20 October 2021 15: 58
        State employees will receive funding, the rest will somehow. In Bashkiria and Tataria, people are dying from the delta strain of covid quite actively.
        1. +4
          20 October 2021 18: 04
          Today the blame for what is happening lies with everyone: no one observes the mask regime; everyone forgot about the distance; fear of vaccinations from Covid; tourist trips abroad; weak epidemiological control by the state.
          1. +32
            20 October 2021 18: 20
            Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
            no one observes mask mode

            As a microbiologist (though not a virologist - but virologists will confirm), I report. The only masks that (relatively) protect against COVID-19 are N95. Not Chinese, of course. Even better - N99 (although also without a guarantee, and, of course, also not Chinese). It seems that Israel has released something with a 100% guarantee - but I could be mistaken, I did not follow the latest publications. About a year ago, they advertised something like this (in terms of development, but about to appear), and then I stopped following.
            What the majority of the population wears helps from fines. Doesn't help against viruses. By the way, I also wear THIS - specifically in terms of protection from fines. laughing
            1. +1
              20 October 2021 18: 35
              well, no matter what is expelled from public places
              1. -3
                20 October 2021 18: 48
                The US is now in a safe crisis.
                Prices rise faster than wages. The national debt bar has been raised over and over again.
                It is because of the money supply transferred to the people for free, for sitting at home.
                The excess of money supply over goods provokes inflation.
                Wage-Saving Weekends increase that money supply like nothing else. And it contributes to the ruin of entrepreneurs.
                The people, of course, love the holidays. But isn't there too many of them?
                1. +1
                  20 October 2021 20: 22
                  Quote: Shurik70

                  Wage-Saving Weekends increase that money supply like nothing else. And it contributes to the ruin of entrepreneurs.
                  The people, of course, love the holidays. But isn't there too many of them?
                  In 2020, they announced "quarantine", but at work they said - Work...
                  So it will be this weekend.
                  sad
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  The US is now in a safe crisis.
                  Prices rise faster than wages. The national debt bar has been raised over and over again.
                  Yesterday I watched the news on the Russia TV channel ...
                  They showed a report about open shoplifting, due to the lowering of the bar of criminal liability (the minimum price of the stolen, for the application of the criminal article, has decreased).
                  The townsfolk simply come to the store, take an inexpensive item from the shelf ... and leave without paying.
                  fellow
                  1. 0
                    20 October 2021 20: 55
                    Quote: cat Rusich
                    (the minimum price for a stolen item has decreased for the application of the criminal article).
                    I explain
                    If the price of the loot is less $ 950 (in different states the figure is different) - the article is not criminal.
                    hi
              2. +10
                20 October 2021 18: 54
                Quote: Mylenef
                well, no matter what is expelled from public places

                At our work (I am a university professor), the temperature is measured at the entrance. Personally, my Celsius temperature ranges from 29.5 to 35.7. When on watch for the first time it was announced that my me 29.5) without question gave the keys to the laboratory ...
                Well, we (both teachers and students) mostly wear masks on the chin (on the chin - when we pass the watch, then we take it off). Which, in principle, is logical - if at least some of the teachers have a temperature at the level of rigor mortis (I'm not the only one, from 29.5 Celsius, give or take), and the students are about the same - then why be afraid? We are all already dead. lol
                1. +14
                  20 October 2021 19: 20
                  Sergei, you are, of course, a microbiologist, maybe even a professor. But it is very strange that you do not know that masks are recommended to be worn not to exclude infection of the wearer, but to reduce the possibility of infection of healthy people, if the person wearing the mask is sick, because the radius of the "spread" of the airborne mixture from him decreases, which will make it possible to infect much less the number of people around than without a mask. And since the incubation period from the moment of infection until the onset of symptoms is up to 14 days, then you can estimate how many people a person will infect, for example, who actively uses public transport.
                  Regarding temperature, non-contact thermometers measure the temperature of the skin, and it can differ from body temperature, depending on the weather and perspiration of a person, it is very strong, so 29.5 is normal to see from such devices in the awkward hands of untrained people
                  1. -1
                    21 October 2021 11: 51
                    Quote: Mitroha
                    Sergei, you are, of course, possibly a microbiologist, maybe even a professor.

                    I am not "maybe" and I am not "maybe." I am exactly a microbiologist, and I am a doctor of sciences, and I am a university professor (even an honorary professor).
                    Quote: Mitroha
                    because the radius of the "expansion" of the air droplet mixture from it decreases

                    Does not decrease. Reduces (by about 40%) the number of viral particles that enter the body of your interlocutor - if you wear a mask and cough at the same time. There were studies of the Japanese on this topic, on special mannequins. If both are wearing a mask, then the number of viral particles received by the recipient is reduced by about 50%.
                    1. +6
                      21 October 2021 13: 02
                      Quote: Sergey1964
                      Reduces (by about 40%) the number of viral particles that enter the body of your interlocutor - if you wear a mask and cough at the same time

                      You see, and your progress has gone, a little higher you argued that
                      What the majority of the population wears helps from fines. Doesn't help against viruses.

                      And now, if you answer the question of how the so-called "viral particles" spread by you, then answer yourself the question why any mask on a potentially infected person is better than the absence of onehi
                      Although this is
                      Well, we (both teachers and students) mostly wear masks on the chin (on the chin - when we pass the watch, then we take it off).

                      A responsible person who should set an example for the generation of young people he trains should not
                      1. -3
                        21 October 2021 13: 07
                        Quote: Mitroha
                        You see, and your progress has gone, a little higher you argued that

                        And I continue to argue. But, if you provide me with reliable data on the dependence of the probability of infection with COVID-19 on the number of viral particles, I may well change my opinion on the benefits of masks. But you won't, will you?
                      2. +7
                        21 October 2021 13: 19
                        Some professors come across some lazy here))
                        Stand in front of a large mirror, for example in the bathroom, sneeze at it without a mask, then with a mask. Estimate the number of drops hitting the mirror in both cases. Step back 1.5 meters and do the same. Remember to wipe down the mirror between attempts.
                        Analyze the results and evaluate at the same time whether the mask affects the spread radius
                        Remember, the more droplets reached the mirror, the more "virus particles" it received, due to the method of spreading these viruses
                      3. -1
                        21 October 2021 15: 24
                        Quote: Mitroha
                        Estimate the number of drops

                        You do not understand the question, I repeat.
                        Quote: Sergey1964
                        If you provide me with reliable data on the dependence of the likelihood of infection with COVID-19 on the number of viral particles, I may well change my mind about the benefits of masks. But you won't, will you?
                      4. +2
                        21 October 2021 15: 54
                        And you, apparently, did not understand anything at all. Do the laboratory
                      5. +2
                        21 October 2021 18: 22
                        Quote: Mitroha
                        And you, apparently, did not understand anything at all. Do the laboratory

                        now I understand why in some places we are so bad with medicine
                      6. 0
                        22 October 2021 07: 24
                        Quote: Sergey1964
                        Quote: Mitroha
                        You see, and your progress has gone, a little higher you argued that

                        And I continue to argue. But, if you provide me with reliable data on the dependence of the probability of infection with COVID-19 on the number of viral particles, I may well change my opinion on the benefits of masks. But you won't, will you?

                        Last winter, the incidence of acute respiratory infections at the plant came to naught, but in the summer the entire workshop fell ill with covid.
                2. +4
                  21 October 2021 00: 48
                  If you are a professor, then you did not defend your dissertation ... Although a professor is a teaching position, isn't it? Do you have a scientific degree? Is there a master of science or a Ph.D.? What are you selling a bad example to students? wassat
                  1. 0
                    21 October 2021 11: 54
                    Quote: Klingon
                    If you are a professor, then your dissertation was poorly defended ...

                    VAK disagrees with you.
                    Quote: Klingon
                    Although a professor is a teaching position right?

                    Yes.
                    Quote: Klingon
                    Do you have a scientific degree?

                    Doctor of Biological Sciences.
                    Quote: Klingon
                    What are you selling to students as a bad example?

                    From now on - in more detail, please. What particular "bad example" do I set for students?
                    1. 0
                      21 October 2021 16: 50
                      If you wear a mask on your chin, this is obviously a bad example for students. In this case, of course, you are unlikely to protect yourself from the virus (unless it is an FFP3 mask), but if you yourself are a carrier you can reduce the degree of its spread, for example, during a conversation. We, medical workers, were obliged to wear FFP2 masks at work, everyone wears as expected. And if someone breaks the rules, they will first issue a warning and then they can be fired.
                      I am not a microbiologist or a virologist, but a veterinarian in the past, a long time in human. left medicine, now an expert manager in modern high-tech wound dressing and wound service and treatment of chronic wounds (I did not find an analogue of the specialty in the Russian Federation)
                  2. 0
                    22 October 2021 10: 10
                    A lot of professors have now become ....... where do we need hard workers? laughing
            2. +5
              20 October 2021 18: 44
              Quote: Sergey1964
              What the majority of the population wears helps from fines. Doesn't help against viruses.

              It's true .. but the best thing is a gas mask .. because it closes the mucous membrane of the eye ..
              1. +2
                20 October 2021 20: 19
                Quote: Svarog
                It's true .. but the best thing is a gas mask .. because it closes the mucous membrane of the eye ..

                Best of all is the yellow spacesuit, in which he performed / advertised / walked pvv last year, and then climb into the bunker and sit in it for almost two years, communicating with the outside world via video link, and for personal meetings, keep people for 2-3 weeks in isolation ...
                Then there will be a result and we are witnesses of how our president heroically protects himself at a time when the population sets records for mortality and morbidity.
                Give us spacesuits and an individual bunker for each family !!! smile
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            5. +9
              20 October 2021 18: 53
              Quote: Sergey1964
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              no one observes mask mode

              As a microbiologist (though not a virologist - but virologists will confirm), I report. The only masks that (relatively) protect against COVID-19 are N95. Not Chinese, of course. Even better - N99 (although also without a guarantee, and, of course, also not Chinese). It seems that Israel has released something with a 100% guarantee - but I could be mistaken, I did not follow the latest publications. About a year ago, they advertised something like this (in terms of development, but about to appear), and then I stopped following.
              What the majority of the population wears helps from fines. Doesn't help against viruses. By the way, I also wear THIS - specifically in terms of protection from fines. laughing

              There is a point in wearing masks. They are designed to protect those around you from infection from the respiratory tract of an infected person when coughing, sneezing, and talking. A sick person may not have symptoms and not know that they are dangerous to others.
              1. -4
                20 October 2021 22: 08
                Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                There is a point in wearing masks. They are designed to protect those around you from infection from the respiratory tract of an infected person when coughing, sneezing and talking.

                We wait:
                1. Prohibition of coughing.
                2. Prohibition of sneezing.
                3. No talking.
                Well, and as a generalization - the prohibition on breathing outside the personal bunker.

                PS Well-mannered people have long been familiar with handkerchiefs. hi
                1. +1
                  21 October 2021 08: 21
                  for blowing your nose in a public place they can kill))))
              2. +2
                21 October 2021 11: 59
                Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
                They are designed to protect those around you from infection from the respiratory tract of an infected person when coughing, sneezing, and talking.

                These masks, when the donor coughs, reduce the number of viral particles entering the recipient's body by 40%. See the Japanese mannequin studies mentioned above. Attention, a question for you. What is the minimum dose of viral particles a recipient must receive to get COVID-19? It is desirable to give an answer separately for different strains.
            6. -4
              20 October 2021 19: 01
              Quote: Sergey1964
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              no one observes mask mode

              As a microbiologist .... helps with fines. Doesn't help against viruses.

              funny to hear, have you ever washed the sieve? even a newspaper on the way of the air flow helps against viruses
              1. -1
                20 October 2021 19: 04
                Read the comment above. A mask on a coronavirus patient protects the people around him.
                1. -2
                  20 October 2021 19: 13
                  Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
                  Read the comment above. A mask on a coronavirus patient protects the people around him.

                  you have not about this, the "microbiologist" found out that the microbe is smaller than the cell of the mask and that this whole menagerie partially settles on everything in a PM and the mask somehow did not think
              2. 0
                20 October 2021 22: 15
                Quote: poquello
                funny to hear, have you ever washed the sieve? even a newspaper on the way of the air flow helps against viruses

                A long time ago they stopped publishing information about the time of the survivability of viruses on various surfaces, but it is entertaining.
                We are waiting for messages about the registration of companies for the production of disposable clothing and footwear (including winter ones). fellow
                1. -1
                  21 October 2021 18: 05
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  A long time ago they stopped publishing information about the time of the survivability of viruses on various surfaces, but it is entertaining.

                  and something has changed ?, it seemed to me that the mutation was shifting towards airborne spread
                  1. +1
                    21 October 2021 20: 13
                    Quote: poquello
                    and something has changed ?, it seemed to me that the mutation was shifting towards airborne spread

                    This path of distribution is not the only one.
                    There were data on the retention of the active virus on surfaces for 2-3 weeks.
                    Handles, handrails, etc. - something with which everyone and every day contacts.
                    1. 0
                      22 October 2021 01: 19
                      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                      This path of distribution is not the only one.
                      There were data on the retention of the active virus on surfaces for 2-3 weeks.
                      Handles, handrails, etc. - something with which everyone and every day contacts.

                      I remember that covid came to Wuhan for the second time with European frozen fish, I was wondering what new data could be, and preservation depends on the type of surface, humidity and temperature, and it seemed like they came to the conclusion that it was not a mass distribution path
              3. +2
                21 October 2021 12: 11
                Quote: poquello
                even a newspaper on the way of the air flow helps from viruses

                This stops the air flow, right? I saw a newspaper and stood up in a pillar - despite the fact that the lungs pump air ... Have you ever worked with filters at least once in your life? With any filters - not necessarily microbiological.
                1. -2
                  21 October 2021 18: 01
                  Quote: Sergey1964
                  With any filters - not necessarily microbiological.

                  I can ask you the same question, microbiologists are surprised who are trying to object to an exhaustive answer
                  Quote: poquello
                  all this menagerie partially settles on everything in a PM and a mask

                  Quote: Sergey1964
                  saw the newspaper and stood up in a column - despite the fact that the lungs pump air

                  and this you need to smoke streams of air along the way, the microbe is not worth it - it moves with them, and so yes, part of it will be fixed on the newspaper), some will fly to the side, some may enter the body attracted by the air drawn in, and certainly a part flying to drops of saliva fall on the newspaper, and the shields do not help either? )
            7. +11
              20 October 2021 20: 12
              Quote: Sergey1964
              The only masks that (relatively) protect against COVID-19 are N95. .... What the majority of the population wears - helps from fines. Doesn't help against viruses.

              The N95 has a barrier of 0,3 microns. COVID-19 virus - 0,1 microns. So, judging by the size, this mask, or rather a disposable respirator, also with holes larger than the size of the virus. laughing But the trick is that the virus spreads in droplets of steam, mucus and other fluids secreted by a person during life and communication with each other. These droplets of liquid and vapors are up to 72 microns. A dry surgical mask absorbs these droplets (mainly of the wearer) and serves as a barrier for some of them (ie, they do not allow the virus to "spit" on the interlocutor lol ). Actually, therefore, they are limited in time of use, do not imply reuse after drying, for example. But it is important that both interlocutors wear masks. Of course, the N95 respirator protects better than a surgical mask, although not 100% either. But it is better to have at least surgical than none. The degree of protection is not high, but 10% is there, according to studies.
              1. +1
                21 October 2021 12: 08
                Quote: Hagen
                but 10% is there, studies say.

                According to the studies I mentioned above (Japanese, on mannequins, one imitates coughing, the other imitates breathing), the dose of the resulting viruses is reduced by 40% - if the donor dummy is wearing a mask. The second mask (on the recipient) almost adds no protection.
                Quote: Hagen
                But the trick is that the virus spreads in droplets of steam, mucus and other fluids secreted by a person during life and communication with each other. These droplets are liquid and vapor up to 72 microns.

                The characteristic droplet size is less than 30 microns. The characteristic pore size in those masks in which people walk is about 100 microns. And the droplets tend to dry out, right?
                1. 0
                  21 October 2021 12: 31
                  Quote: Sergey1964
                  the dose of the resulting viruses is reduced by 40% - if the donor dummy is wearing a mask. The second mask (on the recipient) almost adds no protection.

                  If we take into account that Covid disease is dose-dependent, then 40% is wow, what a figure.
                  1. +2
                    21 October 2021 12: 32
                    Quote: Hagen
                    Considering that Covid disease is dose-dependent

                    A link to research on dose dependence, of course, share?
                    1. +1
                      21 October 2021 12: 45
                      Quote: Hagen
                      Considering that Covid disease is dose-dependent

                      Let me remind you that I expect from you a link to research confirming your words - of course, in a decent journal.
                    2. 0
                      21 October 2021 12: 58
                      Quote: Sergey1964
                      A link to research on dose dependence, of course, share?

                      No, I will not share. This was said by a representative of the NITsEM named after. NF Gamalei when discussing the causes of the disease of doctors of the "red zone", vaccinated with our drugs. There is no reason not to believe. Do you want to object? Please....
                      1. +1
                        21 October 2021 13: 09
                        Quote: Hagen
                        No, I will not share.

                        I did not doubt it.
                        Quote: Hagen
                        This was said by the representative

                        This representative lied to you. There is simply no such data at the moment.
                      2. +1
                        21 October 2021 13: 29
                        Quote: Sergey1964
                        There is simply no such data at the moment.

                        There is very little according to Kovid, except for the bumps filled with practical experience. So your statement about his lies is not expensive either. I am not a physician, and therefore I cannot personally verify the correctness of the information provided. But he is on TV with a name tag, and you are on the Internet and anonymously. You understand the difference. In addition, for any infection there is a threshold value for the dose from which the disease occurs. I am not trying to refute you. Not at all. I share what I see. Therefore, I am ready to receive something useful from you, but trust must be based on something.
                      3. +3
                        21 October 2021 13: 46
                        Quote: Hagen
                        I'm not a medic

                        This was clear from the very beginning of our fruitful discussion.
                        Quote: Hagen
                        so I can't

                        That's right, you can't.
                        Quote: Hagen
                        But he's on TV

                        Does getting a person on TV automatically mean that this person is 100% trustworthy?
                        Quote: Hagen
                        and you are on the Internet and anonymously

                        Not true, not anonymous. I have already given on this resource many times literally exhaustive information about myself, including my place of work, and e-mail, and a list of publications, and everything in the world ... But, especially for you - once again. Email me at skhizhnyak at yandex ru. Or just enter my email address in the Google search bar. You will immediately find out everything about me.
                      4. +1
                        21 October 2021 14: 00
                        Quote: Sergey1964
                        Email me at skhizhnyak on yandex ru

                        We have not received any letters from you. There was only a letter from the postgraduate department regarding the approval of topics for new graduate students, but I already knew about the approval of topics. Do you know what has always amazed me and continues to amaze me? Forum users accusing me of anonymity and / or that I am not me do not make the slightest attempt to confirm (or deny) their accusations by simply sending me a letter to the address I indicated.
                      5. +1
                        21 October 2021 14: 02
                        Well, so you and cards in hand, Sergei Vitalievich. The term "infectious dose" was not born out of nowhere. For each type of infection, it has its own meaning. Why do you deny its existence for the discussed one? Only because of the lack of official work in the "Lancet"?
                      6. +1
                        21 October 2021 14: 53
                        Quote: Hagen
                        The term "infectious dose" was not born out of nowhere.

                        Yes, he was born thanks to the work of experimenters - to which experimenters I also have the honor to belong.
                        Quote: Hagen
                        For each type of infection, it has its own meaning.

                        If “species” is understood as what is commonly understood as “species” in biology, then the answer is undoubtedly “no”. I can show you two strains of Bacillus anthracis (who do not know - this is the causative agent of Anthrax). One strain can be eaten with spoons, the second will infect you with literally one cell. The differences are in one gene.
                        In general, a lot depends on the strain, and on the current (the key word is current, tomorrow this status may be different) of the body's immune status, and much more on what. There is no reliable data on COVID-19 at all.
                      7. 0
                        21 October 2021 16: 48
                        Quote: Sergey1964
                        Yes, he was born thanks to the work of experimenters - to which experimenters I also have the honor to belong.

                        My compliments to you, as a scientist mining real knowledge (no irony)! We agree that there is, in principle, an "infectious dose" ....
                        Quote: Sergey1964
                        There is no reliable data on COVID-19 at all.

                        From which we can conclude that it is also premature to assert that there is no concept of "ID" for the virus under discussion. Is not it?
            8. +1
              20 October 2021 21: 05
              And the question is - will they protect others from me if, for example, I get sick? I am quite willing to wear a mask so as not to inadvertently infect other people.
            9. +6
              20 October 2021 23: 04
              As a microbiologist (though not a virologist - but virologists will confirm), I report. The only masks that (relatively) protect against COVID-19 are N95. Not Chinese, of course. Even better - N99 (although also without a guarantee, and, of course, also not Chinese).

              N-95 respirators protect you from external penetration (double-sided protection), and the usual medical mask is designed for one-sided protection, preventing the spread of what comes out of the mouth and nose of its wearer.
              That is, if a person is sick with coronavirus and wears a mask, then he will be able to infect others much less than if he were without a mask. And because a person himself may not know that he is sick and spreads the virus, then they made the obligatory wearing of masks.
              That is, this mask is not so that a person does not get infected, but so that the infected person does not infect other people.
              I cannot understand how these simple truths are incomprehensible even to doctors.
              1. 0
                21 October 2021 12: 11
                Quote: lucul
                I cannot understand how these simple truths are incomprehensible even to doctors.

                Probably, these truths are incomprehensible because they are not truths.
            10. +2
              21 October 2021 06: 31
              Quote: Sergey1964
              What the majority of the population wears helps from fines. Doesn't help against viruses.

              I also think that the mask against the virus helps in the same way as the netting "Rabitz" from mosquitoes. winked
              I hope more for vaccination.
              1. +1
                21 October 2021 20: 13
                It is necessary to increase immunity
                1. +1
                  22 October 2021 09: 17
                  Quote: MikhailRus
                  It is necessary to increase immunity

                  Right. Almost everything depends on him. Yes
            11. 0
              21 October 2021 09: 49
              It seems
              I could be wrong
              About
              shared information)))
          2. +3
            21 October 2021 11: 49
            Well, yes ... in Israel, everything is observed; almost 90% of the population is vaccinated ... tourists are not allowed, and they themselves do not go anywhere. But for some reason, too, not everything is good with Covid !!!

            Mass vaccination during an epidemic is the way to the emergence of more and more new mutations! The virus wants to live too !!!
          3. 0
            21 October 2021 18: 14
            We have 80 percent grafted
        2. +2
          20 October 2021 20: 13
          In Bashkiria and Tataria, people are dying from the delta strain of covid quite actively.
          Hmm, how's that? "Actively" is when you make your own effort.
        3. -1
          20 October 2021 21: 02
          I do not know how this can be explained, but, judging by the statistics, in a number of national regions of the Russian Federation, the incidence is higher than in Russian regions.
          1. -5
            20 October 2021 21: 21
            of course, because the virus is ethnic, developed in the United States for the Chinese, the United States declared biological war on China, the Russians get sick by accident, and the Ainu, Koreans and Yakuts get sick more because ethnically closer to the Chinese
            1. 0
              21 October 2021 09: 41
              Quote: vladimir1155
              because ethnically closer to the Chinese

              laughing especially the Yakuts!
          2. +5
            20 October 2021 22: 27
            I do not know how this can be explained, but, judging by the statistics, in a number of national regions of the Russian Federation, the incidence is higher than in Russian regions.
            Maybe they just know how to work with numbers correctly? request All the same, 200 thousand for the treatment of each covid-patient are not lying on the road recourse
      2. +8
        20 October 2021 16: 25
        Quote: alma
        Especially close ones will receive state support ...

        And don't say ... They interrupt from million to million ... crying
        Judging by the anti-corruption declarations, the increase in the incomes of these persons more than exceeds the level of annual inflation ... Is this where the frozen increase in our military pensions flows? belay
        1. +2
          20 October 2021 17: 20
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Is this where the frozen increase in our military pensions goes?

          What is your pension?
          1. +14
            20 October 2021 17: 34
            I will be responsible for a colleague. I have 15538 rubles 56 kopecks. 25 years of service, warrant officer.
          2. -1
            20 October 2021 18: 55
            Quote: KIND LAVRENTIUS
            What is your pension?

            I immediately remembered:

            Military - for length of service (23 160, 50), civil - insurance (9 312, 81)
        2. -23
          20 October 2021 17: 33
          and served (if served) only for the sake of a pension ???????
          1. +26
            20 October 2021 17: 47
            Of course, twenty-five years, when the salary was not paid for eleven months, when I was hit by an explosion and burned, I thought only about her, small but his own.
        3. +6
          20 October 2021 20: 25
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And don't say ... They interrupt from million to million ...
          Judging by the anti-corruption declarations, the increase in the incomes of these persons more than exceeds the level of annual inflation ... Is this where the frozen increase in our military pensions flows?

          In half a year we will get heels of new oligarch billionaires and a couple of dozen dollar millionaires from among the close "fighters" against covid.
    2. +1
      20 October 2021 15: 59
      Quote: Mora
      It is also noted that Vladimir Putin, addressing the Russians, noted the need to open a sick leave if there is a coronavirus patient in the family.

      Of course .. in words .. as usual, the state .. in fact, private traders will continue to work .. everything is like last time .. nothing has changed with us .. the same people .. the same decisions ..
      Here's what I don't understand ... why don't they declare full quarantine for two weeks?
      And yes .. as I wrote in the previous article by R. Skomorokhov .. a new strain has appeared .. with which I congratulate everyone .. this music will last forever and those who inject .. will have to do it more often now .. every three months .. (according to my observations) a new strain ... in England already 10% of those infected with a new strain struck .. even more infectious and even more dangerous ..
      1. +27
        20 October 2021 16: 03
        The State Duma said earlier that at the end of 2020 Russia "became the leader in terms of social support during the pandemic among all the GXNUMX countries."

        Leaders? What nonsense ... a lie drives a lie ... a thief a thief ...
        1. +9
          20 October 2021 16: 22
          Everything that the State Duma declares is a lie, PR and all sorts of rubbish. Nobody believes them for a long time, they say for the sake of the protocol.
        2. Aag
          +3
          20 October 2021 17: 01
          Quote: Svarog
          The State Duma said earlier that at the end of 2020 Russia "became the leader in terms of social support during the pandemic among all the GXNUMX countries."

          Leaders? What nonsense ... a lie drives a lie ... a thief a thief ...

          Well, what are you, right? ... It is simply not specified ... for the support of WHOM!))))
        3. -7
          20 October 2021 17: 22
          Quote: Svarog
          Leaders? What nonsense ... a lie drives a lie ... a thief a thief ...

          well refute if you can ...
        4. -3
          20 October 2021 18: 25
          In terms of spending on social services, Russia is the only leader in our country for it last year, more than 40% of the budget went away from the NWF.
        5. +4
          20 October 2021 19: 08
          Quote: Svarog
          Russia "became the leader in terms of social support during the pandemic among all the GXNUMX countries."

          Personally, apart from the fine for going to the store without a mask, I have not seen any support.
          1. 0
            20 October 2021 19: 15
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Personally, apart from the fine for going to the store without a mask, I have not seen any support.

            Similarly hi crying
          2. 0
            21 October 2021 14: 40
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I did not see any support.

            Quote: Svarog
            Similarly

            For April-May 2020, two minimum wages were listed without problems. request Plus the cost of all kinds of disinfection is almost the same. Yes SP. Not trade.
            1. 0
              21 October 2021 19: 43
              And I'm unemployed. Or self-employed, the devil only knows who I am with the authorities.
        6. +1
          20 October 2021 19: 49
          Well, as a percentage of the country's GDP spent on supporting irreplaceable oligarchs in a difficult time (pandemic), we may very well be among the leaders. And or you just want to get worn out in front of the chief rower, show-offs are more expensive than money, suddenly he will notice and even what he pushes for cutting))
      2. +27
        20 October 2021 16: 11
        Most interestingly, many will travel to cities and villages. Booze, partying, excursions, etc. ........ in two weeks a new increase in the regions. Idiocy!
        1. -5
          20 October 2021 16: 20
          President Putin has declared the period from October 30 to November 7 "non-working days with pay-keeping"

          This is probably why:

          The question was also pertinent:
          Quote: Mora
          I still do not understand - who pays? Employer?
          1. +9
            20 October 2021 16: 35
            The impression is that these charts are drawn as needed by those in power. In the subway, they would knock at rush hour, parasites!
            1. +11
              20 October 2021 16: 47
              Quote: Alien From
              The impression is that these charts are drawn as needed by those in power.

              They themselves do not know what to do with this covid.
              1. -4
                20 October 2021 16: 56
                Quote: Hyperion
                They themselves do not know what to do with this covid.

                Well yes...
              2. +2
                20 October 2021 19: 55
                And do they generally know and are able to do anything in any sphere of state administration? As in the west they begin to give the go-ahead that everything is over, so everyone will abruptly forget about the covid schmodit, and while there is no team, we cheer on the western trends, smile and saw.
                1. -1
                  20 October 2021 21: 30
                  Quote: evgen1221
                  As in the west they begin to give the go-ahead that everything is over, so everyone will abruptly forget about the covid.

                  and what to remember about the usual seasonal flu of the year before last
              3. Alf
                +5
                20 October 2021 22: 12
                Quote: Hyperion
                Quote: Alien From
                The impression is that these charts are drawn as needed by those in power.

                They themselves do not know what to do with this covid.

                Well, there is no lockdown, there is just self-isolation. laughing
                1. 0
                  20 October 2021 22: 28
                  Quote: Alf
                  Well, there is no lockdown, there is just self-isolation.

                  From the creators of "cotton, not explosion" and "negative growth, not fall." smile
                  1. +1
                    20 October 2021 22: 32
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    From the creators of "cotton, not explosion" and "negative growth, not fall."

                    The best pearl is "positive dynamics with negative growth" wassat
                    1. 0
                      20 October 2021 22: 38
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      The best pearl is "positive dynamics with negative growth"

                      Exactly. And here are a couple more - "the rise of the water level to the category of an adverse event, and not a flood / flood" and "a thermal point, not a forest fire". lol
                      1. -2
                        20 October 2021 22: 41
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        And here are a couple more - "the rise of the water level to the category of an adverse event, and not a flood / flood" and "a thermal point, not a forest fire".

                        Comrade, I wonder how the inhabitants can perceive this game? request
                      2. -2
                        20 October 2021 22: 49
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Comrade, I wonder how the inhabitants can perceive this game?

                        Well, how in the US can not be white man to pronounce the word "ebony"? It seems that there are blacks, they have not disappeared anywhere, but the name has changed. Or in Europe, too, "revaluation of values" is going on ... Something like this ... Overton windows in action. hi
                  2. Alf
                    +3
                    20 October 2021 22: 39
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Quote: Alf
                    Well, there is no lockdown, there is just self-isolation.

                    From the creators of "cotton, not explosion" and "negative growth, not fall." smile

                2. -8
                  20 October 2021 22: 45
                  Quote: Alf
                  Well, there is no lockdown, there is just self-isolation.

                  Hi Bro! drinks An example of "conscientiousness" is given to us by his "aristocracy", no, no, and he will announce self-isolation, because the servant sneezed in the outhouse.
                  PySy. You can congratulate me on the purchase of B & D. good drinks
                  1. Alf
                    -3
                    20 October 2021 22: 58
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    PySy. You can congratulate me on the purchase of B & D.

                    Washed?
                    Ave!
                    1. 0
                      21 October 2021 17: 58
                      Quote: Alf
                      Washed?

                      Just getting started))) good laughing
                  2. -1
                    21 October 2021 08: 29
                    What is it?
                    1. 0
                      21 October 2021 17: 58
                      Quote: Nastia Makarova
                      What is it?

                      Black & Decker.
                      1916 - First patent. BLACK + DECKER laid the foundation for modern power tool manufacturing with a patent for a half-inch portable electric drill with pistol grip and trigger switch.
                      It all started when two engineers, Duncan Black and Alonzo Decker, founded a tiny company with the big name The Black & Decker® Manufacturing Company in 1910. It was in Baltimore, Maryland, USA (Baltimore, Maryland, USA). They were mainly engaged in instruments. The company was the first to start producing drills suitable for home use.
                      1. Alf
                        -1
                        21 October 2021 21: 57
                        Comrade, happy for you! good
              4. +1
                21 October 2021 20: 17
                This can include Putin, with his constant statements, and other personalities.
        2. +1
          20 October 2021 16: 23
          Yes, to the point. At some point it will stabilize, and then there will be a surge.
        3. +2
          20 October 2021 16: 35
          Quote: Alien From
          Most interestingly, many will travel to cities and villages. Booze, partying, excursions, etc. ........ in two weeks a new increase in the regions. Idiocy!

          Or maybe this is what is being done?
          1. +6
            20 October 2021 16: 37
            Yes, easily! They don't use public transport. Spit on the people! If only the elections were held, and then the grass does not grow!
            1. -2
              20 October 2021 16: 47
              Quote: Alien From
              Yes, easily! They don't use public transport. Spit on the people! If only the elections were held, and then the grass does not grow!

              And an individual bunker for "everyone" to build, the budget with off-budget will burst.
              1. 0
                20 October 2021 18: 27
                Now an individual bunker with all the amenities and pribluda costs an average of about 90 million - with their money you can build tens of thousands of them.
            2. 0
              20 October 2021 17: 11
              Quote: Alien From
              They don't use public transport.

              Some even hid in the bunker ...
              ==========
              Quote: Alien From
              Spit on the people!

              When was the last time they met him?
              If you believe the omen, soon we will all get rich. Yesterday the State met with the People ... did not recognize each other.

              ==========
              Quote: Alien From
              If only the elections were held, and then the grass does not grow ...

              ... and let the ratings lie and die ... lol
              1. -3
                20 October 2021 22: 52
                Quote: ROSS 42
                ... and let the ratings lie and die ..

                Rather, these ratings would have finally died.
        4. -5
          20 October 2021 17: 24
          Quote: Alien From
          many will travel to cities and villages. Booze, partying, excursions, etc. ........ in two weeks a new increase in the regions. Idiocy!

          idiocy is it a weekend or just people? ... it is not clear from your comment what you mean.
          1. -6
            20 October 2021 17: 31
            The idiocy of the authorities! Yes, and citizens sometimes do not take care of themselves (
        5. +1
          20 October 2021 18: 35
          many will travel to cities and villages.

          Exactly, as in March 2020. Spreading of covid, even in remote villages, appeared after this non-working week!
          QR codes for cars and, as a result, queues in the subway. Is it a fight or a spread?
          1. +2
            20 October 2021 18: 48
            Quote: Runoway
            Is it a fight or a spread?

            It seems that many are beginning to suspect something .. vaccination also makes a person a carrier of the virus .. and when an epidemic .. stabbing it not knowing .. is it a fight or spread?
            1. +2
              20 October 2021 19: 20
              Quote: Svarog
              vaccination also makes a person a carrier of the virus

              yes, yes, there are still bugs in it and you need to wear a foil hat
              1. -2
                20 October 2021 19: 24
                Quote: poquello

                yes, yes, there are still bugs in it and you need to wear a foil hat

                Anyone who campaigns for the EP .. he just walks with a saucepan on his head .. I think he is even sleeping .. So, especially for you .. look, an official .. in uniform is talking about this. You are already there to sort it out among yourself.
                1. -1
                  20 October 2021 19: 30
                  Quote: Svarog
                  an official ... in uniform talks about it

                  Why are you listening to officials? this is not communist, less delusional nonsense from an official?
                  1. -1
                    20 October 2021 20: 19
                    Quote: poquello
                    Why are you listening to officials?

                    I, unlike you all, listen .. it gives a comprehensive and objective picture of what is happening.
                    this is not communist, less delusional nonsense from an official?

                    Too much delirium has become .. is not it? For example, you - "communistically" dragged here .. also nonsense .. There is a persistent feeling that in addition to covidly, there is some kind of virus walking around, but mostly officials who sympathize with them are spreading ..
                    1. 0
                      20 October 2021 21: 32
                      Quote: Svarog
                      I, unlike you all, listen .. it gives a comprehensive and objective picture of what is happening.

                      noticeably
                      ))))))))))))))
                      Quote: Svarog
                      vaccination also makes a person a carrier of the virus.
            2. -4
              20 October 2021 23: 11
              Quote: Svarog
              vaccination also makes a person a carrier of the virus .. and when there is an epidemic .. it does not prick.

              More precisely, it masks its virus carrier. hi
        6. 0
          20 October 2021 20: 38
          Most interestingly, many will travel to cities and villages. Booze, partying, excursions, etc. in two weeks new growth by regions
          It looks like it will be so. Moreover, not because of "drunkenness and partying" - but because
          "Such a weekend is advisable due to the fact that they will help break the chain of the spread of the virus"

          It is for this reason that there will be an increase - so that the virus spreading chain does NOT break.
          They will not allow tearing apart, will not allow "killing the hen that lays the golden eggs" for some (big-farms and those who share with them) and will not allow ruining the project launched to reformat the world under their tighter control - already others.
          ---
          So, after a week of "rest", the situation (which depends on juggling with numbers) is likely to worsen even more, and the relevant ministers (Golikova, Murashko and Popova) will request a continuation of the "rest", which will formally have to fight the spread of the virus, and not formally will have to crack on the Russian economy.
      3. -1
        20 October 2021 17: 06
        The fourth wave has come .. We have already left. Even quarantine was not introduced. Somehow everything passed unnoticed.
        1. +1
          20 October 2021 19: 27
          So, according to my reports, you have more than 90% vaccinated?
      4. 0
        20 October 2021 17: 06
        Vladimir, do the dots in the commentary reflect profanity, like Zhvanetsky in the story of the warrior? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAMxz1jxP5Q.
      5. +5
        20 October 2021 17: 13
        even more contagious and even more dangerous ..


        According to medical canons, the flu virus, if it is very infectious, is not particularly dangerous (like mortality), or if it is difficult to transmit, then it can be with an increased mortality. But there is no particularly infectious and at the same time with a high mortality rate of flu.
      6. +1
        20 October 2021 17: 43
        Yesterday I lost my scent - the crown. Tomorrow I will go on duty, tk. now civilians, sick leave - minus 5 thousand rubles per day (thanks to the president for the "presidential surcharge"). I will try not to overfill the guys.
        PS The vaccinated was a Companion.
        1. +3
          20 October 2021 17: 55
          I wish you good health and please wear a mask at work. I myself had been ill a year ago. There was no scent for a month ..
        2. +2
          20 October 2021 19: 33
          Quote: pilot306
          Yesterday I lost my scent - the crown. Tomorrow I will go on duty, tk. now civilians, sick leave - minus 5 thousand rubles per day (thanks to the president for the "presidential surcharge"). I will try not to overfill the guys.
          PS The vaccinated was a Companion.

          Handsome man. For 5000 rubles, he is ready to re-infect colleagues who, even with the ideal course of the disease, will spend 5000-12000 thousand on treatment each, not counting families.
          At least the covid has already cost me 7400, and I have only reached the second week, the temperature is still at 38.
          Otherwise, get well, just keep in mind that the worst thing with covid is to catch bacterial pneumonia on top of the covid, it is difficult to catch it at home, but in human groups it is easy hi
          1. 0
            20 October 2021 19: 50
            Exactly so, ready, despite the indisposition. Let the state take care of the normal payment of sick leave, as with shoulder straps. This is not about 5 tons. for a sick leave in a couple of weeks they will cut off more than 3-4 times. Why should I substitute myself for the state, donating my funds to the fight against the "pandemic", if the state itself avoids such spending in relation to citizens?
            1. +1
              20 October 2021 19: 53
              Quote: pilot306
              That's right, ready

              Just do not forget to tell your colleagues honestly who will infect them because of resentment against the state. I think they will appreciate your aspirations.
              1. +2
                20 October 2021 20: 07
                I am not offended by the state laughing They don't choose their homeland. And the guys are already in the know, we will take measures. You will forgive me generously, I feel I have touched you with my position, I don’t have the financial opportunity to play these toys now.
              2. +5
                20 October 2021 20: 34
                Quote: Mitroha
                Just do not forget to tell your colleagues honestly who will infect them because of resentment against the state. I think they will appreciate your aspirations.

                If a person does not go to arbayten, then he will have nothing to eat (sorry). Have you tried to isolate yourself without money and, accordingly, food?
                1. +3
                  20 October 2021 23: 24
                  So you can't prove to many that there is simply nothing to physically feed the family and the state does not really care. All this burden is beneficial to the layer of persons. In fact, it would be much more profitable to judge everyone at home by closing the borders and paying for a monthly stay at home. I think that in the USSR everything would have been decided much more efficiently.
                2. +1
                  21 October 2021 09: 31
                  And you try to isolate yourself with money, where will food and medicine come from?
                  Most of the patients go to pharmacies and shops anyway.
        3. +2
          21 October 2021 06: 53
          Quote: pilot306
          Yesterday I lost my scent - the crown. Tomorrow I will go on duty, tk. now civilians, sick leave - minus 5 thousand rubles per day (thanks to the president for the "presidential surcharge"). I will try not to overfill the guys.
          PS The vaccinated was a Companion.

          I talked from the beginning of the private security company for the protection of an oil pipeline in one of the regions of the central district (salaries are not bad).
          Says the third young employee (23-25 ​​years old) with vaccination certificates, they fell ill with Covid.
          When checking it, it turned out that the certificates were fake (obviously purchased).
          A pre-investigation check is being conducted against the medical worker who issued these certificates (yesterday he said that a criminal case had already been opened, since the fact of selling the certificates was confirmed).

          Py.Sy.
          Well, what can I say request all these guards essentially became living "Petri dishes" and inoculated everyone with a new strain.
          1. +1
            21 October 2021 06: 56
            What is sad - was actually vaccinated, in two stages in the month of June ...
            1. -2
              21 October 2021 07: 08
              Quote: pilot306
              What is sad - was actually vaccinated, in two stages in the month of June ...

              Well, I'm talking about this, that the unvaccinated have developed with their "Petri dish" a new mutated strain of Covid, which has broken through your vaccinated defense.
              You will get sick, but not much.
      7. +1
        20 October 2021 17: 51
        Here's what I don't understand ... why don't they declare full quarantine for two weeks?

        Rarely, but we are in solidarity with you here.
        I don't understand either, but I would say "what the fuck"?
        In Moscow, it seems like Sobyanin wants, but ... he is afraid in short.
        1. +3
          20 October 2021 18: 57
          Quote: bk316
          I don't understand either, but I would say "what the fuck"?

          Back in 2020, we were in solidarity on this issue .. but nothing has changed in the minds of the brilliant managers in two years .. The whole epidemic would have disappeared right there .. 14 days of quarantine .. hard .. including canceling air messages .. and a mustache .. everyone is healthy continue to live and rejoice .. and each person for 5000 rubles. compensation.
          But this is not profitable .. that's the thing .. The guarantor has been trying to sit on two chairs .. and for 20 years, but now it became clear that the trousers were torn, in the most unsightly place.
          1. 0
            21 October 2021 12: 15
            Well, not everything is so simple, but you think correctly.
            As for the benefit, it is no longer so profitable to cut the tail piece by piece.
            We calculated the model here, for the economy it was necessary to immediately act decisively.
            He must be a guarantor, otherwise he will be a tyrant. But in this case, the decision was wrong. It is not always necessary to measure 7 times before cutting ...
      8. +3
        20 October 2021 17: 53
        All production workers will work. Otherwise the teeth are on the shelf. Who will pay the money of a hard worker, an engineer for unreleased products? Pope?
      9. -10
        20 October 2021 18: 19
        You are a provocateur and an irresponsible type who does nothing to change the epidemic situation in the country. You have only one doubts about what the government is doing and the tough campaigning against coronavirus vaccinations.
        1. -4
          20 October 2021 18: 29
          This is you for me, about the "irresponsible type" ???
          1. -4
            20 October 2021 18: 32
            The answer was to the comment of Svarog (Vladimir) - follow the arrows in the comments.
            1. -5
              20 October 2021 19: 35
              Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
              The answer was to the comment of Svarog (Vladimir) - follow the arrows in the comments.

              I don’t understand, are you a robot or are you joking?
              1. -7
                20 October 2021 23: 25
                Quote: poquello
                I don’t understand, are you a robot or are you joking?

                "Two in one" mocking robot. good
            2. -2
              20 October 2021 19: 53
              Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
              The answer was to the comment of Svarog (Vladimir) - follow the arrows in the comments.

              Yes, this figure (Svaroga (Vladimir)) with his comments makes it clear that he is against vaccination, and people read him and can listen and not get vaccinated. All these anti-vaccines have either forgotten how to count or they have bad mathematics. Everything is simple here, you need to look at the statistics of those countries that were massively vaccinated, let's take France, when covid began there, their mortality was under 10% of cases, now 0,1%, when it all started with us it was 0,7% -0,8 % is now over 3%. Take any country with mass vaccination and there will be such a figure from 0,1% -1,5% of deaths from common illnesses, that's the whole difference and the vaccine primarily protects against death, at least% die a little. And these are the facts against which anti-vaccinationists have no arguments. About China, which is massively grafted, everything is fine.
              In our country, there are already a lot of people who bought Q-codes with entry into the State Service for Services, and this is a big problem, and then when such figures become infected or, God forbid, die, his relatives will say that he was vaccinated.
              1. -1
                20 October 2021 23: 29
                Quote: Achilles
                you need to look at the statistics of those countries that were massively vaccinated, let's take France, when covid began there, their mortality was under 10% of cases, now 0,1%,

                Logical.
                Those who died in the first stage do not die again. hi
              2. +5
                21 October 2021 07: 32
                Quote: Achilles
                Yes, this figure (Svaroga (Vladimir)) with his comments makes it clear that he is against vaccination, and people read him and can listen and not get vaccinated.

                For me, figures like Svarogov did a good deed. I hesitated with vaccination, and when I read their "verified comments" about the dangers of vaccination, I went and took root. Four months already and everything is fine.
              3. -1
                21 October 2021 20: 23
                And rightly so that they listen. Inject further.
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      10. +3
        20 October 2021 20: 21
        Quote: Svarog
        a new strain has appeared .. with which I congratulate everyone .. this music will last forever and those who inject .. will have to do it more often now ..

        Virologists explain that the virus mutates more intensively and productively in the least protected societies. So, a special "respect" to all anti-vaccine-evaders. wink
        1. +1
          21 October 2021 15: 40
          Quote: Hagen
          As virologists explain, the virus mutates more intensively and productively in the least protected societies.

          You didn't understand virologists. Unfortunately, I will not be able to explain to you your mistake in the forum format. In principle, it could - but first you have to teach you a couple of special courses (including molecular biology, population dynamics, the basics of mathematical modeling ...). Yes, in a couple of three, perhaps, will not fit. So just take it for granted that you didn't understand virologists. Or, don't take it however you want.
          1. +1
            21 October 2021 16: 55
            Quote: Sergey1964
            You didn't understand virologists.

            The phrase sounded exactly in the context that I used. You can of course answer here that they are lying. Well, well ... maybe. Perhaps the doctors of science on TV are guided by political motives. A couple of special courses, you are right, are useless for me. A fundamental education is needed here. I do not have it in this direction. But there is experience in searching for cause-and-effect relationships. I appeal to him. Anyway, thanks for the informative conversation and your time ...
    3. -1
      20 October 2021 16: 16
      To many, no one, this is the usual hypocrisy
    4. +12
      20 October 2021 16: 48
      Quote: Mora
      I still do not understand - who pays? Employer?

      Naturally the employer. Therefore, there will be no days off.
      And those who are close to the authorities, but from among the "especially affected industries", will be discharged one monthly salary per employee, as I understand it. And we must have time to hurry up.
      The rest - as you want, and spin.
      Not a candle to God, not a damn poker.
      1. +1
        20 October 2021 17: 25
        But where can a small business get a salary from? This is not known to science ...... Ugh!
        1. 0
          20 October 2021 18: 32
          Another small nuance. Weekends and HOLIDAYS (and for them the payment is already different). That is, there will be a weekend without taking into account the holiday of November 4. No matter how you feel about it
        2. -3
          20 October 2021 18: 58
          Quote: Alien From
          But where can a small business get a salary from? This is not known to science ...... Ugh!

          And they were ordered to go broke .. what would then be bought on the cheap by those who are closer to the body ..
          1. 0
            21 October 2021 21: 31
            Bliiiiiiin! Do you understand me! Honestly, they would take a rent from ........!
        3. -3
          20 October 2021 21: 24
          Therefore, it is never necessary, if possible, to hire small entrepreneurs. Or the public sector, or large private structures.
          1. 0
            21 October 2021 21: 33
            Who are you telling this?
            1. -1
              21 October 2021 21: 55
              Salaried workers. The worst exploiter is a small private trader. And in terms of social and labor guarantees, the worst is the case for hired workers working for small businessmen. Isn't that so?
              1. +1
                21 October 2021 22: 13
                This is closer to the truth. But not everyone can work in the public sector! (
                1. 0
                  22 October 2021 04: 46
                  You know, in large private, joint-stock companies, in most cases, it is also more comfortable to work than in small private companies. I don’t understand at all what can attract a person to work for a small entrepreneur.
    5. +3
      20 October 2021 17: 29
      Bunkerman collapses into the bar and shouts from the doorway: - "Everybody pays off ... at the expense of the establishment."
    6. +10
      20 October 2021 17: 58
      Quote: Mora
      I still do not understand - who pays? Employer?

      And who else. It's easy to be kind at someone else's expense
  2. +15
    20 October 2021 15: 52
    After all, it is difficult to imagine maintaining wages in production, where every day of production is extremely important.
    I'm just out of production. In self-isolation, we were paid 60% as force majeure. Now I'm not sure that they will give a week, although it would be nice. This year we have a stressful vacation - I only managed to take a week off, the rest was paid in money. True, almost all of us this year with covid were on sick leave ... We had a rest, so to speak ...
    1. -5
      20 October 2021 16: 22
      And this is what Sobyanin announced
      from October 25 to February 25, residents over 60 years old must observe a home regime (you can walk and play sports on the street);
      employers are required to transfer at least 30% of the total number of employees (and all employees over 60 years of age) to remote work;
      the requirement to switch to remote work does not apply to vaccinated and recovered workers;
      service enterprises must ensure vaccination of 1% of workers by January 80
      1. +2
        20 October 2021 16: 24
        Quote: Gardamir
        And here is what he announced

        What is the problem with getting vaccinated?
        1. +6
          20 October 2021 16: 28
          What is the problem with getting vaccinated?

          Someone brings palm oil to the country
          Raises the retirement age, as well as taxes, prices ...
          Anti-people laws are passed.
          But you still believe them. You believe that they care about you and want to save you from the virus.
          1. -2
            20 October 2021 22: 08
            Quote: Gardamir
            But still you believe them

            It is a pity that you have not yet quoted such a phrase to heighten the effect:
            one cannot believe in our time, sometimes even to oneself. I can.
        2. +4
          21 October 2021 07: 39
          Quote: Lesovik
          Quote: Gardamir
          And here is what he announced

          What is the problem with getting vaccinated?

          In general, nothing No. ... Five minutes and free.
        3. +1
          21 October 2021 20: 25
          Do, just leave others alone
  3. +13
    20 October 2021 15: 53
    We will work in the same way as in the previous "non-working" days. All this does not apply to industry.
    1. +4
      20 October 2021 16: 29
      Quote: Sentinel-vs
      All this does not apply to industry.

      And you noticed correctly. It remains only to name loudly the names of those for whom New Year and Christmas holidays are annually arranged with mandatory summer vacations ...
  4. -2
    20 October 2021 15: 53
    Sly...
    1. 0
      20 October 2021 16: 34
      Quote: Skay
      Sly...

      You were not the first to say this:
    2. -6
      20 October 2021 18: 28
      Rather from the Evil One.
      1. -8
        20 October 2021 19: 00
        Quote: Vadim237
        Rather from the Evil One.

        From Chubais chtol?
  5. +10
    20 October 2021 15: 56
    After all, we are again talking about the fact that the weekend will not touch everyone, to put it mildly.
    They can touch it so sideways that oh, don't! The kindergartens are closing, the parents will be "happy, happy, happy !!!"
    1. +10
      20 October 2021 16: 01
      And most importantly, no matter how it was at 20, when Putin extended the quarantine for a month, and everyone was freaking out.
      What will the week give? Nothing. It's just that those who got infected in transport and in the team will infect relatives and friends to whom they will visit.
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      2. +1
        20 October 2021 16: 13
        100 percent you are right!
      3. +6
        20 October 2021 16: 44
        Well, the government has to do at least something to spread the virus. sad
        (no disclaimer)
        1. -7
          20 October 2021 17: 36
          And we ourselves shouldn't do anything, so as not to get even deeper into that "hole" into which we fell into a GENERAL EFFORTS ???
          It is necessary to get out of the pit, and we will begin to distribute the "buns" later, to EVERYONE WHO DESERVED, even in full measure!
          What others didn’t know was the next time.
          After all, it's not long to wait until that next time ...
        2. -3
          20 October 2021 19: 01
          Quote: prior
          Well, the government has to do at least something to spread the virus. sad
          (no disclaimer)

          WHO left them the task ... they cope with it 100% ..
    2. +7
      20 October 2021 16: 11
      Quote: rocket757
      After all, we are again talking about the fact that the weekend will not touch everyone, to put it mildly.
      They can touch it so sideways that oh, don't! The kindergartens are closing, the parents will be "happy, happy, happy !!!"


      Not long to rejoice, but where to get money for non-state employees?
      1. +2
        20 October 2021 16: 14
        All this will be up to the heap .... i.e. pants full of joy!
        1. +4
          20 October 2021 16: 38
          Uh-huh, there will be a great pile, then it will take a long time to rake ...
          1. +1
            20 October 2021 17: 41
            We would live to see the moment when the heap will STOP INCREASING !!!
            So far, there is not even a hint that there will be improvements!
            The merit in this is GENERAL ... except for those 30 - 40% who think not only about themselves, but about everyone, about everything!
            1. +3
              20 October 2021 18: 01
              Also true, how to stop the growth ...
              1. -2
                20 October 2021 18: 34
                The current wave to us ... everything is bad, with great losses, we will crawl.
                BUT, experts predict the next surge in morbidity and mortality, next year ... somewhere in MARCH!
                All preventive measures, i.e. the vaccinations that can be given now will only work fully then.
                1. +5
                  20 October 2021 21: 22
                  You don't know what to blow on, but I think we'll break through ...
                  1. 0
                    20 October 2021 23: 25
                    We will break through, or rather we will crawl .... but the risk groups will decrease, decrease, and whoever is younger and healthier will be crippled ... bad choice, very bad, especially WHERE will we break through? By March, new versions of the virus will appear, it may well be that they will become even more aggressive and then everyone who thinks that they will get away with it, maybe carry it through, will be at risk.
                    If at the top they spit on their ratings and begin to really care about the survival of the nation, the welfare of the state ... as in the USSR, for example !!! Any epidemics were crushed one or two times!
                    1. +1
                      21 October 2021 08: 51
                      people are no longer afraid of covid, fear has long passed
                      1. 0
                        21 October 2021 09: 06
                        They are not afraid ... but they die, it also happens.
                        The question is no longer that they are afraid, we must survive, because a large number of seriously ill patients overload both the remnants of our medicine and the industry !!!
                        All this causes negative tendencies in society.
                        Claims to the leadership have something to do, to the citizens, by the way, too .... the question is simple, WHY DEALING UP ???
                        I, the other day, was convinced how bad it is. I didn't wait for an ambulance !!! But a relative, in an ambulance, was taken to another city, quite far from ours, because we have NO PLACES in the neighboring one either !!!
                        But I live next to two, the largest cities in the region !!!
                        This is how it turns out.
                        The question is .... why are we making our own life difficult ???
                        Another moment at work ... the employee got sick, she was not covidla, she has a common cold. We, who are vaccinated, are calm about this, and those who do not want to be vaccinated have raised such a squeal !!! I had to send the employee to sick leave and for testing .... she, by the way, is also vaccinated. She returned 4 days later, completely healthy ...
                      2. +2
                        21 October 2021 10: 03
                        I agree, but there is more of a problem because of the people and not the government, no one wants quarantines and measures, but they demand that the authorities fight against the crown and they themselves go on vacations abroad, accumulate in public places
                      3. +2
                        21 October 2021 11: 56
                        We have sunk to total irresponsibility !!!
                        And in life, after all, how? If you want to be treated with responsibility, show it yourself and always !!! Himself, first of all.
                        Then the officials stop blathering about "macaroshki", sellers stop being rude and are afraid to cheat .... not everything, but many, the majority, are stopped by the prospect / threat when he can be brought to justice.
                        This is an axiom that many have forgotten and do not want to know.
                        We are acting very stupidly.
                        Kovidla is a collective, OUR, responsibility for the health and life of those around us, loved ones!
                      4. +3
                        21 October 2021 12: 03
                        and people also became selfish, not only do not care about the passer-by, but even their relatives
                2. 0
                  20 October 2021 23: 37
                  Quote: rocket757
                  experts predict the next surge in morbidity and mortality, next year ... somewhere in MARCH!
                  All preventive measures, i.e. the vaccinations that can be given now will only work fully then.

                  That is, the onset of morbidity and mortality, it turns out, and will be the result of preventive measures.
                  1. -2
                    21 October 2021 00: 16
                    You yourself understood what you wrote, how do you interpret what the experts say? Where is such perverted logic taught ???
                    No, no, it's normal to call that, no way.
                    1. 0
                      21 October 2021 03: 12
                      The maximum effect from professional events is expected in ~ March.
                      The maximum rise (not a decrease!) In the incidence and mortality expected at the same time.
                      Does the usual logic suggest nothing?
                      1. +1
                        21 October 2021 07: 57
                        Let's crash.
                        A critical increase in the number of infected occurs periodically. The next maximum is at US, predicted in MARCH. The peak of morbidity will also be the peak of mortality.
                        What is happening NOW cannot be fundamentally changed, there are NO cures for covidla, only supportive therapy, on which all the remaining forces will be thrown, which will take away from all the other sick ... masks and other half measures will smear / distribute the sick in time , no more.
                        Prevention ... the only viable method is vaccination! Gradually, everything will come to that, everyone who can be vaccinated in one way or another.
                        The vaccination does not work immediately, and it is not possible to do it for everyone / in sufficient quantity right away !!! This means that preparation for the next peak of incidence should have been intensified YESTERDAYS !!!

                        Most likely, you HAVE HEARED all this, READ !!! You just want to pick out those who think and act differently from you ....
                        Ask yourself, WILL IT HELP YOU? WILL YOU SAVE YOUR KIND AND KIND FROM DANGER?
                        when to call an ambulance, for example, in a critical situation, you will be told that all ambulances are BUSY, because they are taking patients with covidloi to another city, since there are NO PLACES in your local hospital !!! for obvious reasons, by the way.
                        This is a situation from life, right the day before yesterday, right next to ...
                      2. -1
                        21 October 2021 12: 34
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Most likely, you HAVE HEARED all this, READ !!! You just want to pick out those who think and act differently from you ....

                        Everyone has heard and read different and diametrically opposite things.
                        The argumentation of both positions can be criticized.
                        The question is to what extent the authorities understand the arguments and what conclusions they draw.
                        To compare the "bunker" and "anti-bunker" positions:


                        I recommend to see.
                        Quote: rocket757
                        when to call an ambulance, for example, in a critical situation, you will be told that all ambulances are BUSY, because they are taking patients with covidloi to another city, since there are NO PLACES in your local hospital !!! for obvious reasons, by the way.
                        This is a situation from life, right the day before yesterday, right next to ...

                        I completely agree with this.
                        And I myself see boarded up some years ago beautiful buildings of the district hospital of pre-revolutionary construction, closed some years ago autonomous catering units at these hospitals.
                        There is no talk of their restoration. "Optimization" has slowed down, but does not retreat.
                        But the current situation is largely related to the post-Soviet optimization.
                        hi
                      3. +1
                        21 October 2021 13: 01
                        I already wrote how I feel about the current government .... BUT, in this particular case, they are not idle. They fix what can be done, BUT, it won't be possible to fix it quickly, THIS IS A FACT, optimized / destroyed for too long !!!
                        The question is, why are we, OURSELVES, helping to finish off what is left. Making things worse for ourselves and those around us !!! Your loved ones, after all.
                        At the expense of batski and other collective farmers ..... no words, pi pi pi ...
                        It is important for me what the SPECIALISTS say, which is shown by official statistics on a global scale.
                        And it shows the same thing ... where vaccination has exceeded the threshold value of the minimum necessary, MORTALITY IS LOWER THAN ALL, THE NUMBER OF DISEASED, REQUIRING SERIOUS EFFORTS OF MEDICINES, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WE and others, very hard-headed, intelligent !!!
                        In countries where the level of vaccination of the population has reached a certain optimal level, even with LESS cases, the number of disease mutations is LESS !!!
                        After all, the official conclusions have already been made that the "INCUBATOR" for the generation of new strains are sick people, with reduced / suppressed immunity, and even not vaccinated!
                        Those. It is useless to close borders, the infection will change in any conglomerate of people where there are individuals who can be called an "incubator" ...
                        And all this is stated not by collective farmers / artists / veterinarians, but by serious medical publications!
                        Something like this, I, I understand it ...
                        I have fairy tales about "chipping", about the fact that people are infected with covidloid with the help of a vaccine ..... let's just say, it's not interesting.
              2. +4
                21 October 2021 07: 14
                Quote: cniza
                Also true, how to stop the growth ...

                Quote: rocket757
                And we ourselves shouldn't do anything, so as not to get even deeper into that "hole" into which we fell into a GENERAL EFFORTS ???

                Hello guards soldier
                Even with the cadets (since 1978) I have been vaccinating with everything I can (both seasonal, and from ticks and in June Kovi-Vak) without any reasoning and searching for conspirators.
                In December I will go for a revaccination.
                Stay safe.
                1. +3
                  21 October 2021 09: 15
                  Welcome soldier
                  It remains for me to persuade a couple, the most stubborn, to send for vaccination. All other family members are already vaccinated, two of them even managed to get sick, by the way, from those who had to be persuaded for a long time !!! And all the same, they are ill, but they lie at home, the condition is satisfactory, for their age ... they are already over 70 years old.
                  The question is, what if they hadn't taken root ??? Now in our city there is nowhere to PUT people, they are taken to another town, 100 km away. from the regional center ???
                  In general, not good and so, so also there are NO queues for vaccination! What people think about, I have no idea.
                  1. +2
                    21 October 2021 19: 25
                    Quote: rocket757
                    It remains for me to persuade a couple, the most stubborn, to send for vaccination.

                    Persuade, Victor, then they themselves will thank you.
                    1. +2
                      21 October 2021 19: 57
                      I pulled up a friend of our family. He is a doctor, now he was mobilized for a "second term" and sent to the "red zone" ... and even his son, he is also a doctor, with an ambulance.
                      And in general, all those familiar with the emergency room were sent to treat the covid ones ... there was only one left, but he is the leading surgeon, the head of the department, he cannot be.
                      And then different d d d radishes squeal, why the ambulance doesn't come !!! not that on time, maybe not at all, if not quite the edge !!!
                      Difficult times, because we ourselves have accumulated a lot ... different and not very clever, alas!
                      1. +2
                        22 October 2021 09: 15
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Difficult times, because we ourselves have accumulated a lot ... different and not very clever, alas!

                        hi
                        What can I say. If you feel bad, look around and see that those who are worse off are much more. I don't remember who said request But right.
                      2. +1
                        22 October 2021 09: 40
                        The only thing to do is to hope that we will break through ... and for this we need someone to grow wiser and do it CORRECTLY, AS IT IS NECESSARY!
      2. 0
        20 October 2021 19: 13
        Quote: cniza
        Not long to rejoice, but where to get money for non-state employees?

        The Decree says that non-state employees must decide for themselves who goes to work for them. Those. can decide that they all go out. As we have on similar "non-working" days in May this year.
        1. +3
          20 October 2021 21: 24
          You are so naive, think ...
          1. 0
            20 October 2021 23: 28
            It is true that private enterprises operate according to their own rules, but within the framework of the TK.
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      1. -2
        20 October 2021 17: 48
        There is a ... category of people who will not be happy with everything and always!
        Who should be guided by the leadership of the state in a critical / difficult situation ???
        Or either! hold on to power at any cost, or do what must, it is important, necessary for the well-being of the country, its citizens ???
        At the moment they have chosen .......
        1. +3
          20 October 2021 18: 37
          What kind of citizens? I have individual entrepreneurs and employees, agreements, contracts, delivery schedule, loans from banks. And all of us, we are a team, will be thrown out of production for a few days? If we stay to work, ours will be fined. Banks can be shown the decree of the President? Laugh ...
          1. -3
            20 October 2021 18: 45
            Do not seek to make everyone laugh who is not in the wiki "wisdom" is recruited.
            What can you be fined for? What are you going to break?
            More specifically, what is the justification for your statement?
            1. -2
              20 October 2021 18: 51
              Are you not aware of the labor code of the Russian Federation? If workers go out under the labor code on weekends.
              1. +1
                20 October 2021 19: 00
                People need to pay their wages TWO times. Come on, wages and taxes must be paid twice on wages! And this is 45% of their salary. It's easier to shut down production these days and send them all on vacation. But contracts, contracts, shipments ...
              2. -2
                20 October 2021 19: 12
                Weekends and holidays.
                Not prohibited, subject to special conditions, upon execution of which ...
                I work in an enterprise with a continuous production cycle .... I also had to meet the new year at work, it’s unprecedented.
                Wages, taxes .... in different ways, the specifics of your business.
                Then, I don't like such long "vacations" at all, I consider them harmful.
                1. +3
                  20 October 2021 19: 15
                  But you worked at a budget enterprise. And small business is all under credit. We bought the equipment ourselves. Until they even recaptured its cost. For us, every day of work is a breath of air.
                  1. +1
                    20 October 2021 19: 36
                    No, no, the plant has an owner, the state did not stand nearby ... but, the enterprise is large, profitable and the problems, although they are also not small, are solved in working order.
                    I understand that small business is limited in everything and cannot afford much !!!
                    The time is not easy now, in general, whoever is smaller, is squeezed by many circumstances and the state, to exist normally, does not help in any way ... unless, what a major official does not take under his wing! But this is also a double-edged sword ...
                    But, I wrote that we have no REASONS FOR DISCUSSION.
                    I myself understand that the upper ones cannot, do not want to solve the problem of covidli in a radical way, which can lead to an improvement in the situation in general !!! Well these are not popular measures, i.e. People are rebelling against them all over the, almost, the world .... and our people are afraid for their power and will try and turn on half measures .... in general, another imperfection, from which ANYONE would be better off!
                    1. -1
                      20 October 2021 19: 47
                      Now I agree with you!
  6. +4
    20 October 2021 16: 01
    If only all the measures taken would be beneficial !!! Since the pandemic is progressing by leaps and bounds, unfortunately ...
    1. -7
      20 October 2021 16: 20
      Place the potato on the heel, raw.
      So I took measures, so to speak, effective.
      Helped?
      No.
      weird ...
      But it’s so thought out, so efficient, right?
    2. -1
      20 October 2021 16: 43
      Quote: sagitovich
      If only all the measures taken would be beneficial !!! ...

      If everyone goes to isolation for two weeks, close the entry-exit.
      By the way, I didn’t pay attention: were there masks at the meeting with representatives from Afghanistan? belay
      1. 0
        20 October 2021 17: 10
        There were many without masks, you forgot to add, in addition to entry-exit, to stop the movement of public transport, and personal transport.
        1. 0
          20 October 2021 17: 54
          This earlier "long vacation" could lead to a surge ... in 9 months!
          And now ... you know what the queue is in the offices of RITUAL SERVICES !!! the other day "checked / convinced", and it will get even worse! Because ... we have everything with medicine, not ICE! worse only without it at all.
      2. +3
        20 October 2021 17: 45
        So, on the contrary, they just kept saying that new countries are opening, one after another, and how can this be linked to an increase in morbidity? But in no way. There is no logic, if necessary.
        1. -2
          20 October 2021 19: 07
          Everything is as simple as a perpendicular .... THE INFECTION IS ALREADY HERE and will not go anywhere! It is possible to neutralize the most difficult consequences by the joint efforts of ALL TOGETHER ... which is what they are doing all over the world, with one measure of success or another.
  7. 0
    20 October 2021 16: 01
    We're so drunk. laughing
  8. +6
    20 October 2021 16: 03
    I would like to ask Putin: "Did you yourself understand what you announced?"
    The virus is atrocious now, and he announces the weekend in 10 days.
    Is it so that everyone who has not yet become infected has time to get infected?
    1. +6
      20 October 2021 16: 07
      Quote: prior
      Is it so that everyone who has not yet become infected has time to get infected?

      This is for everyone to sit at home and watch TV. However, such a scenario is unlikely to be executed!
      1. 0
        20 October 2021 16: 25
        Quote: Egoza
        However, such a scenario is unlikely to be executed!

        Yes
        Covicula! fellow
    2. +2
      20 October 2021 16: 26
      The virus is atrocious now

      The virus will continue to brutalize even more, and without a total lockdown it cannot be stopped, but total. So that no one sees anyone for two weeks.
      1. -9
        20 October 2021 17: 00
        the virus does not commit atrocities, since the "pandemic" the epidemic threshold has not been exceeded in order to introduce it. the rest is just a lie for the sake of control through vaccination and the introduction of personal numbers
    3. -1
      21 October 2021 20: 31
      He decided to throw in the coal.
  9. +1
    20 October 2021 16: 06
    Somoe interesting that the RF Ministry of Defense does not care about the failure of the deadlines for the delivery of state defense orders for viral vacations. negative
  10. +3
    20 October 2021 16: 10
    President Putin has declared the period from October 30 to November 7 "non-working days with pay-keeping"


    It is possible to announce that, but where is the money, commercial structures, to take to keep wages?
    1. +1
      20 October 2021 16: 15
      And there was no bazaar about money. Grandfather decided, then it will be so. The only thing that worries me is deja vu: The only place where you can walk is your balcony! And go out into the street - a fine. As if they did not bring it to that again. Marasmus.
      1. +3
        20 October 2021 16: 24
        I freed the loggia for walks - 6 meters one way. Overlooking the motorway.
      2. -1
        20 October 2021 16: 55
        Quote: mojohed2012
        And go out into the street - a fine. As if they did not bring it to that again.

        But on November 7, the OMON will not drive the crowds, but only COVIDlu.
        Or and them - for "vacation"? fellow
  11. 0
    20 October 2021 16: 15
    I quit my job at the wrong time, I worked in the special forces drinks
    1. -1
      20 October 2021 16: 52
      Quote: Split
      I quit my job at the wrong time, I worked in the special forces

      Today I met my former colleagues at work ... The cable to the kindergarten is out of order. According to the category, this issue is resolved urgently ... There are many other problems that cannot wait 10 days ...
  12. 0
    20 October 2021 16: 23
    At the same time, Putin urged the regional headquarters "not to underestimate and not embellish the picture." These words of the president also evoke a certain response. If the president pronounces them, does this mean that this kind of underestimation of the real morbidity and embellishment of data on this matter takes place in certain regions.

    Of course this is the case, and we all know who is working and who has been touched by Covid. Testing is very sluggish, belated, far from covering everyone, the tests show 50 to 50. I know a lot of people who have had covid, for all the symptoms, but the test was either negative or not at all. I think 30% is underestimated, if not more.
    1. -6
      20 October 2021 17: 01
      indicators are deliberately overstated, everything is done just for the sake of control to drive you under a personal number to which a bank account will soon be linked
      1. +3
        20 October 2021 17: 39
        I'm sorry for your overworked head. How about overcrowded morgues and overcrowded cemeteries? Or are you far from it?
        1. -2
          20 October 2021 21: 28
          who told you such nonsense? this is a lie, no country has crossed the threshold for the introduction of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic. it's all a lie. this is done only for the sake of vaccination and the introduction of passes, this is only the beginning, then there will be chips under the skin.
          1. 0
            20 October 2021 23: 21
            then there will be chips under the skin.

            No comment.
  13. +4
    20 October 2021 16: 23
    Quote: Svarog
    this music will last forever and those who inject ... will have to keep up more often ... every three months .. (according to my observations) ..

    What are you, doctor (virologist, in the sense)? Didn't consider the idea that perhaps it would be more effective if more citizens were vaccinated, rather than more often?
    1. -4
      20 October 2021 19: 11
      Quote: Tagan

      What are you, doctor (virologist, in the sense)? Didn't consider the idea that perhaps it would be more effective if more citizens were vaccinated, rather than more often?

      It's enough just to have logic ... and information. The whole world cannot be vaccinated at a time, which means the virus will mutate .. (a new strain has already been found in England, even more dangerous than the previous two) And if it mutates, then vaccination is useless, and during an epidemic it is dangerous .. any virologist will tell you this .. not an official, but a virologist.
      If they really wanted to protect citizens ... then they would put everyone in quarantine ... 14 days, with personal compensation for each of 5 rubles .. including children .. and mustache .. who violated the quarantine, does not receive compensation.
      1. +1
        20 October 2021 20: 14
        Quote: Svarog
        It's enough just to have logic ... and information. The whole world cannot be vaccinated at a time, which means the virus will mutate .. (a new strain has already been found in England, even more dangerous than the previous two) And if it mutates, then vaccination is useless, and during an epidemic it is dangerous .. any virologist will tell you this .. not an official, but a virologist.

        Stop writing blatant heres. At the moment, 3-4 strains have already appeared, after that all known vaccines were tested for new strains and almost all of them confirmed their effectiveness, although in a different% ratio in terms of effectiveness to the new strain of the virus, especially since our satellite does not have the virus itself , he acts in a completely different way.
        What virologists will say? Take China, they put 2,2 tril there. vaccinations and what? Do you think the virologists are wrong there? Or what? Or do you think your own state wants to do badly to its citizens? Tell me how is it in China with the incidence? Exactly.

        Anti-vaccines either have forgotten how to count or they have bad mathematics. Everything is simple here, you need to look at the statistics of those countries that were massively vaccinated, let's take France, when covid began there, their mortality was under 10% of cases, now 0,1% -0,5%, when it all started it was 0,7 % -0,8% is now over 3%. Take any country from mass vaccination and there will be such figures from 0,1% -1,5% of deaths from common illnesses, that's the whole difference and the vaccine primarily protects against death, at least% die a little. And these are facts against which there are no arguments among anti-vaccines.
        1. -1
          20 October 2021 20: 32
          Quote: Achilles

          Stop writing blatant heres. At the moment, 3-4 strains have already appeared, after which all known vaccines were tested for new strains and almost all have proven their effectiveness, true in different% ratio in terms of effectiveness to a new strain of the virus, especially since our satellite does not have a virus in its composition, it acts in a completely different way.

          Miracle .. miracle vaccination .. why didn't they do this against the flu? Every season they are wondering what the flu will be ... but they didn’t guess .. and everyone is sick with mustache .. And then a miracle happened .. one vaccination against all strains ..
          Take any country

          Israel, England, Singapore .. and in China there is an outbreak again .. you are surprised .. you live in a bunker, are not interested in anything except the first?
          1. 0
            20 October 2021 20: 36
            Quote: Svarog
            Israel, England, Singapore .. and in China again an outbreak .. you are surprised .. you live in a bunker, are not interested in anything except the first?

            And what, what is a flash? What mortality is there? Could you tell? Less than 1%, what other arguments are needed? We have 3%.
            1. +1
              20 October 2021 20: 40
              Quote: Achilles
              And what, what is a flash? What mortality is there? Could you tell? Less than 1%, what other arguments are needed? We have 3%.

              We've optimized everything to death from that and mortality ... we pay premiums for Kovidnikov .. and there are no real statistics ..
              1. 0
                20 October 2021 20: 47
                Quote: Svarog
                We've optimized everything to death from that and mortality ... we pay premiums for Kovidnikov .. and there are no real statistics ..

                What are you writing about? They pay, yes, but not for mortality from sick people and it is a criminal offense if it is revealed, no one will take risks, not well, of course there will be people, but this will not affect the mass figure.
                Judging by your logic, then the numbers of the sick should be greater than the number of deaths, because for them, that is, for the number of patients they pay, if so, then the% of deaths are even more than 3% and this is even worse.
                1. -1
                  20 October 2021 20: 51
                  Well, probably there will certainly be people, but this will not affect the mass figure.

                  They thought the same when the hospitals were downsized .. Have you ever tried to call a doctor with a temperature? I’m talking with you and I have a strong feeling that you either live outside of the Russian Federation, or you have special conditions for "living"
                  1. +2
                    20 October 2021 20: 59
                    Quote: Svarog
                    They thought the same when the hospitals were downsized .. Have you ever tried to call a doctor with a temperature? I’m talking with you and I have a strong feeling that you either live outside of the Russian Federation, or you have special conditions for "living"

                    Yes, I tried, my mother had a temperature, first the doctor came (about 2 hours), measured the amount of oxygen in the blood, there was a suspicion of covid, then he called an ambulance, the ambulance arrived, they wanted to pick it up (the ambulance arrived very quickly), they wanted to do all the tests at the hospital but my mother refused to go to the hospital.
                    1. -1
                      20 October 2021 21: 02
                      Quote: Achilles
                      Yes, I tried, my mother had a fever, first the doctor arrived (about 2 hours)

                      Moscow? In Tatarstan, my little brother was sick recently, called a doctor, said that the temperature, the answer was this, we don't come with a temperature, go to your district police officer ..
                      1. +1
                        20 October 2021 21: 03
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Moscow? In Tatarstan, my little brother was sick recently, called a doctor, said that the temperature, the answer was this, we don't come with a temperature, go to your district police officer ..

                        Volgograd. Generally, this is a flagrant violation and must be complained about.
                      2. -3
                        20 October 2021 21: 10
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Volgograd. Generally, this is a flagrant violation and must be complained about.

                        Complain ..)) Three years ago, thrown equity holders in Kazan, for a long time could not get anything from the government ... they complained for a long time ... they got tired and chose an activist who was supposed to go to Moscow to stand with a poster ... threw money on the map Sberbank .. BUT .. the card was blocked .. Sberbank .. without explaining the reasons .. and all the activists were fired, who worked at state-owned enterprises ..
                        And similar cases ... a wagon and a small cart ..
                      3. +2
                        20 October 2021 21: 34
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Complain ..)) Three years ago, thrown equity holders in Kazan, for a long time could not get anything from the government ... they complained for a long time ... they got tired and chose an activist who was supposed to go to Moscow to stand with a poster ... threw money on the map Sberbank .. BUT .. the card was blocked .. Sberbank .. without explaining the reasons .. and all the activists were fired, who worked at state-owned enterprises ..
                        And similar cases ... a wagon and a small cart ..

                        Everyone has their own cases. In Volgograd, you can directly write e-mails to the Administration, Roskomnadzor, and to all regulatory authorities.

                        Once my apartment was flooded, I tried to call a representative of the management company to draw up an act, but for various reasons they did not send me anyone, and then they did not take the bodies at all. the phone, I wrote an email. a letter to the Administration, so immediately the next day they sent me and apologized.
                        There are friends who also wrote email. letters to an ambulance that traveled for a long time or did not leave at all, especially during peak hours of morbidity, and this affected.
                        We, too, once had a time when they said that we would not leave with a temperature, but after complaints the situation improved.
                        The main thing is to write massively and report all violations. At least there is at least some chance that the situation will turn for the better.
                      4. 0
                        20 October 2021 21: 49
                        Quote: Achilles
                        The main thing is to write massively and report all violations.

                        A herd of rams came to the wolf to complain about life wassat I would say that it's time to do it en masse .. yes, it is censored now.
        2. 0
          21 October 2021 07: 19
          You know, the main reason for my dismissal from special communications is compulsory vaccination ... taking into account the implanted immunity, injecting myself with a weakened virus is not acceptable. At the last work, an example was ... after the satellite, a friend was under 40, the temperature was barely pumped out ... better with the usual coronavirus, like getting sick 2,5 years ago. Nothing new has been invented there, everything is in the old fashioned way, a weakened virus is injected half-alive and the body produces antibodies ... everything is fine, if the body can, well, and lycopid in addition, it's hard to get it right now, but you can
          1. 0
            22 October 2021 02: 13
            Quote: Split
            inject yourself with a weakened virus

            There is no covid virus in the vaccine. Absolutely not. To put it very simply, an S-protein was added to the common cold virus, with which the coronovirus clings to the cell. Antibodies are produced to it. This is about Sputnik-V.
      2. +1
        21 October 2021 07: 46
        Quote: Svarog
        It's enough just to have logic ... and information.

        Svarog wink but tell me who joked with you that you "brilliantly" possess these qualities?
    2. +2
      20 October 2021 19: 18
      Quote: Tagan
      Didn't consider the idea that perhaps it would be more effective if more citizens were vaccinated, rather than more often?

      In Mongolia, it was considered. In Singapore. In Israel. In England. Did not help..
  14. +9
    20 October 2021 16: 34
    And I have a large part of my salary - piecework, how can I keep it ?! And I can't work remotely - I'm not an office moth! I don’t understand at all, but why the hell not to allow vaccinated people to work? Not grafted - your business, stay at home "with preservation", but the vaccinated, then why lock up!
    1. +8
      20 October 2021 16: 51
      but why should the vaccinated be locked up!

      You are appealing to reason, which is meaningless in this case.
      Political expediency rules the ball.
      And she has no reason, no conscience, no justice.
      1. 0
        20 October 2021 17: 27
        In-in. Now I watch football - Spartak-Leicester. They drove everyone into one podium, but at the same time they limited the attendance to 10 thousand. But they drove everyone close. WHERE, BBBBBLIN, LOGIC !!!!!!
        And, no, they smeared it. Back to back roofing felts guests, roofing felts fan of Spartak. But everything is the same - the same bullshit, why not let as much on the QR code as the stadium can hold ?! Fuck you buy a ticket. Doesn't anyone need money? Including taxes to the state?
    2. 0
      20 October 2021 17: 41
      and why the hell not to allow vaccinated people to work?

      Who will sort it? Although, we have a pure formality lockdown. Almost everyone works, with the exception of a part of the service industry.
    3. +6
      20 October 2021 17: 44
      Vaccinated people also get sick. Vaccination only made it possible for the body to begin to fight the virus faster, which does not lead to severe complications. Bye...
      So the vaccinated also carry this covid, as well as the unvaccinated. And then all this is dragged into the family, colleagues, etc. Until we all get over it with the loss of those who are not tenacious, this will not end ...
      1. -3
        20 October 2021 17: 48
        If an unvaccinated person can get sick, let him sit at home. PiSi: vaccination is always not a 100% guarantee, but a guarantee that the body is ready to fight the infection is a guarantee of the flow of the lung, and therefore it is possible
    4. 0
      20 October 2021 18: 03
      A similar situation ... took root back in February, today he was revaccinated ..
  15. +7
    20 October 2021 16: 35
    PPTs! Again, all the "Muscovites" in the regions will carry the infection.
    I hope at least in some regions there will be heads with brains and the borders will be closed!
  16. +3
    20 October 2021 16: 44
    This vacation will lead to a surge of illness in resort towns where people will go to rest. It's cold in the dachas now, so many will go on a trip.
    1. 0
      20 October 2021 18: 08
      Unfortunately, in order to understand this, you need something that some do not have.
  17. +6
    20 October 2021 16: 58
    Unfortunately, he did not announce where they should take money from for salaries in small and medium-sized businesses if the work is worth it. GDP once did not know how much ice cream costs. Now he seems to have forgotten where the paycheck money comes from crying
    1. -2
      20 October 2021 17: 26
      Quote: Nafanya from the couch
      GDP once did not know how much ice cream costs.
      Parents did not give money to GDP! Poor child!
      1. +1
        20 October 2021 17: 33
        Parents did not give money to GDP! Poor child!

        I don't know about my parents. But when VVP, already being president, took ice cream from a saleswoman and thrust several bills into her and asked: "Enough?" drinks
        1. +4
          20 October 2021 18: 05
          We need to watch TV better! He paid 5000 for ONE ice cream! If I give a 5000th bill to our ice cream maker for one ice cream, she will split the scoreboard for me!
      2. +1
        20 October 2021 19: 35
        But he knows for how many pfenings he bought his favorite beer in the GDR. bully
    2. 0
      20 October 2021 17: 42
      Unfortunately, he did not announce where they should take money from for salaries in small and medium-sized businesses if the work is worth it.

      Order to pay the minimum wage per character
    3. 0
      20 October 2021 18: 06
      He thinks that money is pouring from the sky!
  18. +1
    20 October 2021 16: 59
    It would be better if they did not go into those areas where they do not know anything at all and do not want to know, there would be more benefits.
  19. +3
    20 October 2021 17: 05
    At the same time, Putin urged the regional headquarters "not to underestimate and not embellish the picture."

    Do these underestimate? In my opinion, on the flip side, they are trying to draw a more terrible figure in order to intimidate the people, and to have a justification for even more draconian measures. Because if you write as truthfully as possible, it turns out that this one is not so scary. HIV and even banal tuberculosis are much more infectious and deadly, ordinary measles (also the case can end in death) is an unattainable champion in infectiousness ... But because of them, no one breeds a nationwide panic.
    1. +5
      20 October 2021 17: 24
      In my opinion, on the contrary, they tend to draw a more terrible number,

      And you visit the morgue and find out whether it is overstated or not. All our medicine is aimed at combating covid, even the receptions in clinics have been reduced.
      1. +1
        20 October 2021 17: 37
        Morgue.
        Nurse: Doctor, they brought another blind man there
        Doctor: You drunk, don't you know what to write "Cause of Death-Covid"
        S: So he's headless
        D. Pischy-Covid with complications
      2. 0
        20 October 2021 18: 02
        Quote: private person
        ... All our medicine is aimed at combating covid, even the receptions in clinics have been reduced.

        To clarify ... we ourselves are finishing off the remnants of our medicine ...
        The infection IS, it will roll out wave after wave, it can only be resisted by joint efforts!
        If we continue the situation when the top CANNOT, and the bottom DO NOT WANT, it will be bad and the end of the edge is not visible.
      3. +1
        20 October 2021 22: 39
        All our medicine is aimed at combating covid, even the receptions in clinics have been reduced.
        And maybe that's why the "morgue"?
  20. VLR
    +7
    20 October 2021 17: 32
    And if you remember how it all began? The virus is some kind of "sluggish", weak, non-aggressive, only 15 percent of infected people feel unwell, a severe course - in the elderly and people with a bunch of chronic diseases. Children are not afraid of Covid at all. The epidemic threshold is not exceeded anywhere. And they begin to actively "fight" against this virus, or rather, to pretend to be fighting. A comedy with disposable but reusable dirty masks in pockets worn on the chin. Half-measures with under-quarantine of "self-isolation". All according to the method of chopping off the tail of a dog, not immediately, but one centimeter a day. They begin to do PCR en masse, although it is recognized that this method has 40% false negative results and 30% false positives. 70% of unreliable results! And in Sweden and Belarus at this time there are practically no restrictions. And for some reason nothing terrible happens there. Russians cowardly sit at home, staring at zombies, while Belarusians hold a grandiose, beautiful Victory Parade. And in Russian social networks, everyone groans voluptuously: well, now a humanitarian catastrophe will begin in Belarus! And for some reason it does not start. But the virus, with which they play giveaway, not allowing restrictions to develop herd immunity, instead of leaving aside - as in any other epidemic, even acute respiratory infections, though. flu, feels at ease and gets the time and opportunity to mutate. And it becomes much more dangerous. And at this time, mortality from other diseases, about which everyone has somehow forgotten, is growing. The queues for planned hospitalizations and surgical treatment are growing. Surveys are not really carried out. And depression in the whole society against the background of buckets of negativity from all the cracks.
    Vysotsky comes to mind: "no, guys, everything is not so, everything is not as it should be."
    1. +1
      20 October 2021 20: 11
      Quote: VlR
      Russians cowardly sit at home, staring at zombies, while Belarusians hold a grandiose, beautiful Victory Parade.

      I remembered Furgal .. then, too, the covidla was raging .. and the whole city was on the street .. and lo and behold, nothing happened .. Well, a very selective virus ...
    2. +2
      21 October 2021 19: 06
      And at this time, mortality from other diseases, about which everyone has somehow forgotten, is growing. The queues for planned hospitalizations and surgical treatment are growing. Surveys are not really carried out. And depression in the whole society against the background of buckets of negativity from all the cracks.

      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. People already, like in the plague, stopped shaking hands, all embittered and nervous.
  21. -2
    20 October 2021 17: 53
    We open the calendar and what do we see: 30,31,4,5,6,7 were so NON-WORKING days !!! ...
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  23. +4
    20 October 2021 17: 59
    I don’t understand? With what joy does he command a small business to pay a salary if the small business does not make money? A small business does not have a printing press, and besides that, you have to pay taxes, pay utility bills, and much more! Good man, come on money, no money, don't go!
    1. 0
      20 October 2021 19: 04
      They will not give money - they are too greedy for such actions.
    2. 0
      20 October 2021 19: 27
      Quote: maiman61
      I don’t understand? With what joy does he command a small business to pay a salary if the small business does not make money?

      This is because you have not read the Decree itself. In it, Putin, as in May, leaves the right to small businesses to decide for themselves who will work for them these days and who will not.
      1. +2
        21 October 2021 17: 21
        Listen! Did you fall off the stove as a child or are you so naive? The bandits with red crusts will come running, the brains will quickly be set with wild fines. They don't care who said what.
  24. -1
    20 October 2021 18: 45
    As always, a small business whose employees are registered will suffer. You have to pay out of pocket. Even earlier it was impossible to get all these handouts from the Power. With all the attempts of Mishustin. Passed already. And those seven November lockdown days are ridiculous! To combat bacteriological weapons. The Power has some kind of madness !!!
  25. 0
    20 October 2021 19: 07
    Under an employment contract, people will have to pay double wages + double tax burden on the FZP with all deductions for these days. Or stop production and send everyone on vacation. They themselves will not go!
  26. 0
    20 October 2021 19: 08
    Not so long ago, there were restrictions on the operation of retail outlets, whose goods are not essential items. So in the shopping center, all departments continued to work, they simply posted announcements such as "inventory, phone such and such", "point of issuing online orders", or in addition to fur coats and jewelry, they sold all sorts of masks-disinfectants. If only Ausweis were not introduced again, otherwise police raids with all that it implies again. Although, the performance of the police has jumped unprecedentedly in terms of "prevention" and "suppression" of offenses with this masked regime. "Mask mode" is not about the Kremlin))), in the country, as it were, democracy.
  27. 0
    20 October 2021 19: 28
    The State Duma said earlier that by the end of 2020 Russia "became the leader in terms of the volume of social support during the pandemic among all the GXNUMX countries."

    They support ... The loop in which the domestic business hangs out.
    1. +3
      20 October 2021 19: 42
      What is the social support? 10 for a child, or for retirees now? A friend of mine from America, a businessman, said that under Trump they allocated 000 bucks to individual entrepreneurs, people, including infants and the elderly, up to 50. All utilities were reset. Etc. I am not a supporter of mattress toppers, but the social support of the population there was much higher.
      1. 0
        20 October 2021 23: 31
        I am not a supporter of mattress toppers, but the social support of the population there was much higher.

        They just print money, it's even easier - add trillions to the right line. You can see for yourself how inflation was dispersed this year - this is the merit of "mattress makers", for the most part.
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  29. -1
    20 October 2021 19: 42
    I just want to ask. Whom did you announce? Who will rest then for the money? How they (leaders) learned to speak while doing nothing. The verbiage is continuous.
    1. +2
      20 October 2021 20: 01
      They don't understand anything. They live on the moon. There is a general systemic crisis of leadership. I will give just one example: there is no cement in Kaliningrad for the third month. No, and that's it. For budget construction projects it comes somehow, for private traders it does not. Nobody can solve the problem. Scandals at the City Hall, etc. etc. Banks demand theirs. Russian Railways overloaded all tracks with empty wagons. Lithuania does not allow one or the other. Officials shrug their shoulders.
      1. 0
        20 October 2021 23: 29
        Russian Railways overloaded all tracks with empty wagons. Lithuania does not allow one or the other.

        The logistics problem is now very acute all over the world. It is not even clear how this happens - there are delays everywhere, queues for unloading, loading. Much has been written about this.
  30. -1
    20 October 2021 20: 17
    Quote: Shurik70
    The US is now in a safe crisis.
    Prices rise faster than wages. The national debt bar has been raised over and over again.
    It is because of the money supply transferred to the people for free, for sitting at home.
    The excess of money supply over goods provokes inflation.
    Wage-Saving Weekends increase that money supply like nothing else. And it contributes to the ruin of entrepreneurs.
    The people, of course, love the holidays. But isn't there too many of them?

    If it's not a secret, what are you talking about ?!
  31. +4
    20 October 2021 20: 21
    Last time, in April 2020, I applied to Promsvyazbank for support, which was promised by the Mishustin Government (OKVED was subject to benefits). Because of Logdown, the enterprise was closed for two months. They refused because the tax office found 12 rupees in arrears. I was very surprised because tax payments have always been an order of magnitude higher. I asked for a soft loan. They refused because during these two months, I did not have any positive dynamics on the account. I no longer believe this government and the Brigadier at the head. You have to survive on your own. And this is not correct! Because a Russian person needs to "root" for the State and wait for help from it in a "difficult" moment. But, to see the help will be received by persons close to the BODY. And this time. This "vacation" week.
    1. -2
      20 October 2021 23: 26
      which the Government of Mishustin promised (OKVED was subject to benefits)

      The problem is the local performers, who are afraid of everything, suddenly something goes wrong and they give extra money or they give it to the wrong person, and then go to jail. Therefore, they are reinsured, and the instruction to write inside and out is beyond the power of the government.
  32. +6
    20 October 2021 20: 33
    The State Duma said earlier that by the end of 2020, Russia "became the leader in terms of social support during the pandemic among all the GXNUMX countries."

    Even commenting is somehow inconvenient. Anyone who made this statement or went into a propaganda rage or completely lost touch with reality.
    1. +1
      21 October 2021 20: 41
      They apparently loved themselves and spoke.
  33. 0
    20 October 2021 21: 42
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Achilles
    Volgograd. Generally, this is a flagrant violation and must be complained about.

    Complain ..)) Three years ago, thrown equity holders in Kazan, for a long time could not get anything from the government ... they complained for a long time ... they got tired and chose an activist who was supposed to go to Moscow to stand with a poster ... threw money on the map Sberbank .. BUT .. the card was blocked .. Sberbank .. without explaining the reasons .. and all the activists were fired, who worked at state-owned enterprises ..
    And similar cases ... a wagon and a small cart ..

    Are you in Kazan? Have they already been expelled from Perm?))
    1. -2
      20 October 2021 21: 50
      Quote: Tagan
      Are you in Kazan? Have they already been expelled from Perm?))

      What does Perm have to do with it? I have always said that from Tatarstan, and specifically from N. Chelnov ..
  34. +3
    20 October 2021 21: 56
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Tagan

    What are you, doctor (virologist, in the sense)? Didn't consider the idea that perhaps it would be more effective if more citizens were vaccinated, rather than more often?

    It's enough just to have logic ... and information. The whole world cannot be vaccinated at a time, which means the virus will mutate .. (a new strain has already been found in England, even more dangerous than the previous two) And if it mutates, then vaccination is useless, and during an epidemic it is dangerous .. any virologist will tell you this .. not an official, but a virologist.
    If they really wanted to protect citizens ... then they would put everyone in quarantine ... 14 days, with personal compensation for each of 5 rubles .. including children .. and mustache .. who violated the quarantine, does not receive compensation.

    So far, I am watching only your speculations. A virologist is unlikely to tell this.
    Quarantine is certainly good, but not everyone can handle it.
  35. +2
    20 October 2021 22: 00
    Quote: SVD68
    Quote: Tagan
    Didn't consider the idea that perhaps it would be more effective if more citizens were vaccinated, rather than more often?

    In Mongolia, it was considered. In Singapore. In Israel. In England. Did not help..

    But it helped in San Marino ...
  36. +1
    20 October 2021 22: 06
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Tagan
    Are you in Kazan? Have they already been expelled from Perm?))

    What does Perm have to do with it? I have always said that from Tatarstan, and specifically from N. Chelnov ..

    Really my memory refused me ... To rummage through the comments is too lazy. Well, sorry, if so.
  37. +1
    20 October 2021 23: 23
    Quote: Achilles
    Anti-vaccines either have forgotten how to count or they have bad mathematics.

    They just have a bad head, and not with mathematics. These are zombie people, they don't even need to be microchipped, they are already "microchipped".
    1. +2
      21 October 2021 08: 03
      Quote: Stepan S
      Quote: Achilles
      Anti-vaccines either have forgotten how to count or they have bad mathematics.

      They just have a bad head, and not with mathematics. These are zombie people, they don't even need to be microchipped, they are already "microchipped".

      Right. They cannot understand the simple fact that they are the source of an infection that can become fatal for a person who has a real medical outlet. Or for a child who is not yet vaccinated by age.

      Oh yes, children rarely die from covid. Well, let's wait a bit - they will start dying often. They are already in intensive care units on mechanical ventilation.
  38. -2
    21 October 2021 00: 39
    "Such a weekend is advisable in connection with the fact that they will help break the chain of the spread of the virus." - another delirium of people completely far from epidemiology and medicine in general. On weekends, people will go to guests, shashlik-mashliks and to these hypermarkets - popular complexes in Russia where everything is concentrated in one place at once, which will further contribute to the transmission of the virus wassat
    1. 0
      21 October 2021 14: 26
      People on weekends will go to the guests, barbecue-mashliks and to these hypermarkets

      If people are strained with their brains, then they will, and someone will sit at home, or take a walk outside the city.
  39. +2
    21 October 2021 00: 42
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Sergey1964
    Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
    no one observes mask mode

    As a microbiologist .... helps with fines. Doesn't help against viruses.

    funny to hear, have you ever washed the sieve? even a newspaper on the way of the air flow helps against viruses

    The newspaper creates swirls like any flat surface at the ends there are swirls of the flow, then you will inhale it along with the viruses. Learn physics wassat
  40. +1
    21 October 2021 10: 20
    The government previously pointed out that in connection with the decisions made on additional days off, a set of measures to support business is being prepared.

    I don’t know about Russia, but we didn’t work in Novosibirsk only in the first week at the beginning of the epidemic. Nobody wants to take a loss.
    1. 0
      21 October 2021 15: 07
      Quote: riwas
      and here in Novosibirsk

      Greetings to Novosibirsk from Krasnoyarsk! hi
      How do you like this autumn? We had +15 today. laughing
  41. -1
    21 October 2021 12: 25
    such a greedy and petty president, you still have to look ... age makes everyone greedy, said one wise man)
  42. +2
    21 October 2021 14: 59
    Quote: Hagen
    Why do you deny its existence for the discussed one? Only because of the lack of official work in the "Lancet"?

    I do not deny anything. I'm just used to (again, professional deformation) that any claims (for example, the claim that the masks worn by 99% of the population help to reduce the spread of COVID-19) must be supported by experimental data. Personally, my experimental data suggest that under these masks you can get a whole bunch of skin diseases (from staphylococcal infections to candidiasis and mucormycosis, and even with the transition to a generalized infection). But from COVID-19, these masks do not help from the word "absolutely". It's funny that WHO officials (at least those whose opinions I read on their official website) agree with me. But they still suggest wearing these masks "just in case."
  43. +3
    21 October 2021 15: 14
    Quote: Stepan S
    Quote: Achilles
    Anti-vaccines either have forgotten how to count or they have bad mathematics.

    They just have a bad head, and not with mathematics. These are zombie people, they don't even need to be microchipped, they are already "microchipped".

    The mathematicians showed up, this is good news. Throw, please, right here the model (better in differs, but, in principle, at your discretion), and all the coefficients. The coefficients are, of course, determined experimentally.
  44. 0
    21 October 2021 16: 17
    We will work as in previous times. Unless the physical condition of the employee will prevent him from performing his duties.
    But what is really dangerous is to inflate an elephant out of a fly !!! We got it with our covid ...
  45. 0
    22 October 2021 10: 39
    I see everyone has the same problems. Just like in Italy. People who do not want to use masks, others who do not want to get vaccinated, others who do not want to use the Green Pass to access cinemas, theaters, and so on. Thanks to the fact that the government kept the bar level, the vaccination campaign was successful by hook or by crook. Now there is a minority who do not want to get vaccinated in order to make noise and annoy. Of all the science fiction films, the epidemic should have become a reality, perhaps the attack of the Martians would have caused fewer skeptics. Except, of course, for the inevitable edge that thinks the Earth is flat and sees patches all over the place.

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