Russian anti-helicopter mines and foreign reaction

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Mina PVM at the exhibition. Photo Russianarms.ru

The Russian army is armed with a wide range of various mines for various purposes, incl. specialized anti-helicopter ammunition PVM or "Boomerang". This product is capable of effectively dealing with low-altitude targets and can be used to solve various problems. Weapon with a specific role naturally attracts the attention of foreign experts and the press - which leads to the appearance of interesting publications and even to the launch of special projects.

Homing "Boomerang"


The PVM product was developed by the State Treasury Scientific Testing Ground aviation systems (GkNIPAS). In the transport position, it is a cube with a side of less than half a meter and a mass of 12 kg. This version of the mine is intended for installation by sappers. In remote mining systems, a modification of a different design is used - when folded, it has the shape of a hexagonal prism. In both cases, the side walls are hinged supports, with the help of which the mine stands in position.



The ammunition is equipped with an acoustic and infrared target sensor. With their help, the mine detects an air object, determines the direction and range to it. The warhead is cumulative, on a movable base with guidance in two planes. According to the signals of the sensors, the warhead turns in the direction of the target and "launches" an impact core into it.

According to reports, "Boomerang" detects the noise of the helicopter at ranges of 3-3,2 km. Automation is able to distinguish between aircraft noise and other sounds. The affected area is a hemisphere with a radius of 150 m. The possibility of wire communication between several mines is provided. In this case, the target is hit by only one mine and the overspending of ammunition is excluded.

Foreign interest


In the July issue of the magazine of the American Ministry of Defense OE Watch (an analogue of our "Foreign Military Review"), an article was published "Russia Employing Little Known Aviation Mines" ("Russia uses little-known aircraft mines"). The reason and the main source of data for them was the April article “Mine for the“ flying tank"In the Russian newspaper" Military Industrial Courier ".


Experienced versions of anti-helicopter mines. Photo Vitalykuzmin.net

Referring to the Russian edition, OE Watch writes that mines appeared in the Russian army "capable of affecting the air situation." Russian tactics provide for the use of such weapons in different scenarios of hostilities. So, with their help, they plan to block airfields and landing sites, as well as protect important facilities and bridgeheads. The main characteristics and parameters of the min.

The magazine notes that PVM is capable of hitting only low-flying targets and only at a short distance. However, even in this case, they pose a certain danger and can complicate the work of tactical aviation in different situations. In all operations where planes and helicopters must operate at low altitude, risks and problems await Russia's adversaries.

Foreign assessment


A few days ago, the American Internet edition "1945" recalled about "Boomerang". In its article "Helicopters Beware: Russia is Deploying Anti-Helicopter Mines", it draws attention to publications in OE Watch and MIC. In addition, they gave estimates of anti-helicopter weapons and recalled some of the work of the Pentagon in this context.

On the basis of two previous publications "1945" studies the features, characteristics and capabilities of the Russian PVM mine. At the same time, attention is paid to the possibility of installing products in different ways, as well as to the high productivity of such a process. So, in 2018, during the exercises, a minefield with a length of approx. 3 km. Such a barrier can work for at least 3 months.

An important feature of the FDA is called the ability to fight not only helicopters, but also aircraft. First of all, we are talking about the placement of mines on the approaches to the runway. In addition, they point to the psychological effect of "Boomerang". Fearing mines, pilots can increase the flight altitude and get into the zone of confident air defense operation.


Attack helicopter AH-64. Its tactical role is to fly at low altitude. US Department of Defense Photo

1945 indicates that there are several problems associated with PVM mines. First of all, it is the possibility of such weapons falling into the wrong hands. For example, terrorists can use anti-helicopter mines to attack civilian airliners. In the context of combat use, it is unclear whether the Boomerang is capable of distinguishing between its own and enemy aircraft.

This situation is complicated by the fact that countries friendly to Russia can use aircraft produced by a potential enemy, the identification of which becomes a separate problem. Finally, the unwise use of mines by the allies can lead to negative military and political consequences.

The publication recalls that news about Russian anti-helicopter mines did not go unnoticed at the Pentagon. Back in 2017, the department began research on such weapons - their real potential and countermeasures.

Real measures


Plans to conduct research work on anti-helicopter mines were approved in November 2016. In January 2017, the Pentagon opened a call for applications, which was allocated for about a month. Then it was planned to select a contractor who was to conduct three phases of research. As a result of all these activities, the army wanted to receive a certain amount of data on existing and possible threats, as well as ideas and concepts on the topic of countering them.

In the request for R&D "Anti-Helicopter Mine and Improvised Explosive Device Countermeasures" it was indicated that in recent years, special anti-helicopter mines have been created in Russia and Bulgaria to combat low-altitude targets. In addition, there are similar risks associated with improvised explosive devices.


"Boomerang" or other similar products will not allow landing. US Department of Defense Photo

In Phase I, the contractor was required to examine existing and expected samples and their aviation hazards. On the basis of these data, it was necessary to form new concepts of counteraction. Phase II provided for the development of a defense complex based on previously proposed ideas. It should have been designed and tested on one of the modern rotary-wing platforms. During the third phase, it was planned to develop the existing complex and make it the basis for the next project, already intended for use in the army.

Almost four years have passed since the launch of the research program, but its results are unknown. Any news and messages were no longer published. This may indicate a work stoppage - or about their continuation, but with all the necessary secrecy. Perhaps the situation will be clarified in the future, when a full-fledged experimental defense complex appears. Of course, if it is being developed.

Arms race


Thus, at the disposal of the Russian army for a long time, an unusual weapon appeared that could drastically hinder the activities of the enemy's tactical aviation. The appearance of the Boomerang product did not go unnoticed and even became the reason for launching a new research program, the result of which may be helicopter modernization projects or completely new equipment.

It is possible that the Pentagon and researchers considered PVM and other developments in this area a real threat. In this case, they should already be working on the means of protection and counteraction. For example, it is possible to reduce the physical fields of the helicopter, through which the mine works, or to create false targets with an increased level of them.

It is obvious that the measures of a potential adversary to protect their equipment will not go unnoticed. This will lead to the appearance of modernized mines or completely new products - capable of ignoring false targets and detecting less noticeable real ones. As a result, a real arms race could begin in this area. And our country, which already possesses anti-helicopter mines, is in an advantageous position.
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  1. 0
    19 October 2021 18: 24
    Quite an old invention (I read about this in the early 2010s), due to its size, it is more suitable for guerrilla warfare or local conflicts than for a major war. Distance up to 150 meters is pretty sour for a 50 * 50 * 50 cube. Such dimensions generally exclude sabotage mines, leaving the product a niche for pre-mining. In places where a helicopter may or may not fly. Maybe 150 meters away, maybe not. If, in the case of a product of dimensions + - an anti-tank / anti-personnel mine, this is perhaps to some extent justified by the smaller dimensions of the product, a longer period of autonomy-secrecy, a lower price and, as a consequence, the possibility of large-scale installations, both sabotage and preliminary - then in general it is very inconvenient highly specialized product.
    IMHO, if they fit the product into the backpack dimensions or the dimensions of a fuel canister, it would be more useful.
    1. +4
      19 October 2021 18: 33
      A similar mine is already in service with NATO.
      1. +4
        19 October 2021 19: 40
        Quote: 210ox
        A similar mine is already in service with NATO

        As for the NATO members ... I don’t remember something ... I don’t think so! Oh, yes ... Bulgaria has created several models of PVM! But whether they are in service with the Bulgarian army or are only offered for export, I don’t remember! Austria has its own sample of FDA; but, in my opinion, does not produce! Iran is armed and produces PVM!
        1. +1
          20 October 2021 04: 16
          More air defense - good and different!
          1. +3
            20 October 2021 23: 00
            Quote: Kuroneko
            More air defense - good and different!

            Glory to those who have crossed trunks on their golden collar tabs! hi
        2. 0
          28 October 2021 21: 09
          In service with the Bulgarian what?
      2. 0
        19 October 2021 20: 53
        Are there any results of the combat use of this Wunderwaffe?
        1. +15
          20 October 2021 04: 22
          Considering that we have put these mines into service a long time ago, and no one seems to dispute their usefulness, I think that although not a wunder, but still a usable waffe. And as for combat use - show me terrorists who have combat aircraft (yes, I am aware of Ukraine and the United States, but we are not at war with them yet).
          1. +1
            20 October 2021 07: 55
            As for combat use - show me terrorists who have combat aircraft
            It's not about the "terrorist" combat aircraft. The point is that somewhere in Africa, these "rebels" could use them against government troops or PMCs, but this is not the case. As for the fact that the system is quite old - I agree, 25 years ago, while visiting GkNIPAS on my own business, I found a PR campaign for this tool.
            1. +5
              20 October 2021 08: 04
              This mine is for a global war. By itself, it is too dangerous. Anything that flies can be shot down. Therefore, by the way, it is not offered for export.
              Did you mention Africa? So, 3/4 of helicopter flights in Africa are humanitarian. Non-combatants. Doctors, rescuers ...
            2. 0
              20 October 2021 12: 15
              Quote: Aviator_
              The point is that somewhere in Africa, these "rebels" could use them against government troops

              Do the African rebels have these mines?
      3. 0
        22 October 2021 19: 18
        Which exactly? Today there is an Austrian Hirtenberger HELKIR, but Austria is not a NATO member. There are no others, except for the Bulgarian AHM-200-1 (2) over the hill.
    2. +11
      19 October 2021 18: 34
      Most likely, they should be used to create a perimeter that protects from the landing of sabotage groups near guarded objects located in sparsely populated areas, and in areas covered by natural folds of the terrain from radars.
      1. 0
        19 October 2021 19: 56
        On the other hand, they could be very successfully used in Afghanistan against helicopters - if they had thought of them then. Moreover, it was much easier to come to your senses before them then than before, such not the most simple, in concept and execution, weapons like MANPADS - then there were already in Western microelectronics the simplest specialized microprocessors suitable for the analysis of acoustic noise. But the history of technology has taken a different path.
        1. +3
          19 October 2021 20: 21
          Quote: ycuce234-san
          On the other hand, they could be very successfully used in Afghanistan against helicopters - if they had thought of them then ..
          I read an article about PVM on VO.
          And in one comment I read about IEDs against helicopters, which the "spirits" did ...
          The author of the comment described it as follows - in a certain "narrow place", where there was a high probability of a helicopter flying at a low altitude, a powerful land mine was buried, striking with "fragments", in addition to the blast wave, there were stones that were on top of the IED. The trigger sensor was a strip of iron connected to the battery. The helicopter flying over the land mine with an air wave bent a strip of iron and the mine exploded ...
          I am writing from memory and from the words of the commentator.
          soldier
          1. 0
            19 October 2021 22: 49
            Yes, of course, you can think of a lot of sensors - like on sea mines, where they started with simple mechanics and ended up with magnetometers, acoustics and so on.
            The point is that a mine against low-flying aircraft is a weapon at the same time non-standard and effective and, in modern conditions, will be used against UAVs, since it is much cheaper than a missile and is structurally so simple that mines, stretch marks "anti-helicopter" are made by people living almost in conditions Stone Age, not to mention factories. By the way, in the absence of iron, a piece of cloth or a basket woven from a bush can also pull out the pin - these are light objects and they will be thrown away by the air wave ...
            1. +3
              19 October 2021 23: 01
              Quote: ycuce234-san
              Yes, of course, you can think of a lot of sensors -
              By the way, in the absence of iron, a piece of cloth or a basket woven from a bush can also pull out the pin - these are light objects and they will be thrown away by the air wave ...
              An empty basket can be blown away by the wind.
              One can argue about the pulling force, but I just gave an example, that PVM is not "news" ...
              PVM Vietnam
              Here is a PVM made in Vietnam.
              soldier
              1. 0
                19 October 2021 23: 27
                Not bad too - at the level of a mechanical workshop.
                But, such mines, if the events were a little different, could have thrown out "stingers" from the history of technology, due to the rapid development of microelectronics: 1971 - the first microprocessor, 1972 - e-mail appears in the USA, 1976 - the start of sales of household PCs. And the first stingers were very, very expensive and a smart mine with a microelectronic control unit beat them in all economic parameters in relation to low-flying aircraft. And high-flying was not a big problem at that time - guided weapons were still developing and dive-bombers had already left the historical stage.
                1. +2
                  19 October 2021 23: 53
                  Quote: ycuce234-san
                  Not bad too - at the level of a mechanical workshop.
                  But, such mines, if the events were a little different, could have thrown out "stingers" from the history of technology, due to the rapid development of microelectronics: 1971 - the first microprocessor, 1972 - e-mail appears in the USA, 1976 - the start of sales of household PCs. And the first stingers were very, very expensive and a smart mine with a microelectronic control unit beat them in all economic parameters in relation to low-flying ones.
                  MANPADS red eye
                  MANPADS FIM-43 Redeye Red eye.
                  The first working sample was presented to the public in 1958.
                  adopted in 1968, already converted to the state of the next model Redeye Blok 1.
                  FIM-92A Stinger began mass production in 1978, the cost of the first Sting 45 710 $
                  bully
                  1. +1
                    20 October 2021 00: 13
                    FIM-92A Stinger began mass production in 1978, the cost of the first Sting $ 45


                    In today's prices, this is $ 192 for a single racket or in more familiar units of money measurement - in foreign cars - these are two new Toyota tundra from the factory ($ 000 each). This is because cheap mines had very serious chances of success and then MANPADS would go to the dustbin of history.
                    1. +1
                      20 October 2021 10: 26
                      No, PVMs complement MANPADS, because. low-altitude flight - one of the means of protection against MANPADS becomes risky in the presence of FDA.
                      1. +1
                        22 October 2021 14: 45
                        Now - bye, yes. But in the 80s, no one could be sure until the end that this fiercely expensive racket from MANPADS was the recipe for success.
                        And now technology will make a new move in this economic chess - even more fiercely expensive attack helicopters will strongly press against disposable robotic shells, MANPADS most likely will not fit into the budget of confronting such drones and will remain only in a narrowed niche for large targets and penny air defense mines will again become relevant - already against robots, as in the old science fiction, - we live in such a time.
        2. +2
          19 October 2021 20: 28
          Here, apparently, the fact that this thing is quite expensive and dubious played a role. Modern helicopters often strike without entering the area of ​​operation of MANPADS. To protect objects from RDG? Quite possible. Autonomy, the risk of suffering from your own mine .. But this is my opinion. By the way, I read about this in technical literature in the 80s, but I really didn't find a link.
          1. +1
            19 October 2021 23: 01
            To protect objects from RDG? Quite possible. Autonomy, the risk of suffering from your own mine


            First of all, it would be a means of landing troops from helicopters and not classical air defense - imagine that the "opponents" of the Soviet troops mined in three layers all the heights, rocks and places where the turntable could sit down. Or in Vietnam, they were actively used against American helicopter pilots with a landing - then the idea of ​​an amphibious helicopter could be recognized as untenable and such machines would be history and only anti-tank helicopters or anti-ship helicopters with hydrophones and torpedoes would remain. Even if the landing party parachute back through the air, it is already impossible for them to quickly leave this place - until the demining of an area of ​​sufficient size is carried out. And about the high cost - above described an example of such an anti-helicopter mine made from scrap materials.
          2. +3
            20 October 2021 10: 51
            To stay out of the MANPADS 'coverage area, you first need to know where the MANPADS is located, and it can be anywhere ... on the flight route, not far from the take-off or landing point ... fig you guess. MANPADS reaches 5-6 km in range and the same in height (5-6 km in height is the limit for a helicopter). The lower the flight altitude, the less likely it is that the MANPADS operator will see it (I heard it, but he was there behind the little forest-hill, it seems close, but invisible-missing), that's where the FDA is needed behind the little forest-hill.
    3. +7
      19 October 2021 20: 53
      Of course, the product is highly specialized, but, for example, in a mountainous area, difficult for air defense work, in a gorge, in the direction of a probable breakthrough at a low altitude ... Why not
      1. -13
        20 October 2021 02: 56
        this mine is a relic of the past, as usual, the generals are preparing for the last war. everything has changed already, both tactics and strategy.
    4. +5
      20 October 2021 03: 32
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      In places where a helicopter may or may not fly.

      Mines are generally placed in places where a tank / infantry / ship may or may not fly over. Accordingly, helicopter-hazardous (hollows, places shaded from the radar, etc.) directions can be covered.
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    6. 0
      20 October 2021 17: 12
      I would have read the article carefully, I would have had to write less. The affected area (scattering of fragments) is 150 meters.
      1. +2
        23 October 2021 23: 12
        Quote: Radio
        scattering of fragments

        If you read the article carefully, you can read about the shock core.
  2. +2
    19 October 2021 18: 27
    Air defense systems are becoming fully automatic. While the short range, but there is no limit to perfection.
    1. +2
      20 October 2021 09: 30
      Our air defense systems have long been able to operate in automatic mode. In any case, medium and long-range (s-300/400/500).
      Just press the start button.
      Another thing is that with the development of electronics, smaller complexes have also pulled up. That's why
      Not "Bye", but "Already" air defense systems are becoming fully automatic.

      Moreover, even the bundles of the complexes become automatic, i.e. from one central command post can be given for automatic fire on targets from various complexes. Even control centers for portable complexes can be issued.
  3. Alf
    +1
    19 October 2021 20: 36
    First of all, this is the possibility of such weapons falling into the wrong hands. For example, terrorists can use anti-helicopter mines to attack civilian airliners. In the context of combat use, it is unclear whether the Boomerang is capable of distinguishing between its own and enemy aircraft.

    This situation is complicated by the fact that countries friendly to Russia can use aircraft produced by a potential enemy, the identification of which becomes a separate problem. Finally, the unwise use of mines by the allies can lead to negative military and political consequences.

    I am so wang that when such products appear in service with the US Army, such arguments will imperceptibly disappear?
  4. +1
    19 October 2021 21: 40
    Particularly effective is the use against cruise missiles with terrain bend
    1. +4
      20 October 2021 03: 30
      Quote: 123456789
      Particularly effective is the use against cruise missiles with terrain bend

      The speeds are too big, cheaper, KMK, to exhibit balloons with a network.
    2. +1
      20 October 2021 03: 44
      Quote: 123456789
      Particularly effective is the use against cruise missiles with terrain bend

      Seriously ???
  5. +2
    20 October 2021 01: 39
    Quote: Chief Officer Lom
    Most likely, they should be used to create a perimeter that protects from the landing of sabotage groups near guarded objects located in sparsely populated areas, and in areas covered by natural folds of the terrain from radars.

    As far as I remember, similar mines were still in the USSR, they were intended to cover the gullies along which enemy helicopters could get close and self-destruct after 24 hours. I don't remember the model, but it was spherical and was installed from a helicopter
  6. +1
    20 October 2021 08: 34
    In Afghanistan, spooks made anti-helicopter mines extremely simple. A piece of thin foil was attached over the contact. From the air thrown by the blades of the helicopter, the foil sagged and made contact.
    1. 0
      21 October 2021 12: 23
      They made it even easier there. A stick on it has 2 wires from the detonator and a tin can. When the helicopter landed, the bank swayed from the air stream and closed the contracts. Babakh!
      Naturally, such traps were set up on sites suitable for landing! There are not so many Kote in the mountains.
  7. 0
    20 October 2021 09: 32
    This variant of mines is useful. But now a similar product with the ability to hit CD at low altitudes (at least subsonic) is becoming more relevant.
  8. 0
    20 October 2021 10: 01
    After 3 months (Pentagon) Hawkeye noticed (pvm) that the prison has only 3 walls.
  9. 0
    20 October 2021 10: 25
    Mines are good, poke at houses and now you can't fly low over the city.
    And if they fly high, you can also hit with guns or missiles.
    But the main thing is that the mines work by themselves.
  10. +1
    20 October 2021 11: 04
    What does this article do in the "Armament" section? There are no characteristics, nothing.
    This is the maximum "Opinion"
  11. 0
    20 October 2021 11: 11
    Can I put the Needle there?
    Then the range will be higher.
    1. Alf
      0
      20 October 2021 21: 49
      Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
      Can I put the Needle there?
      Then the range will be higher.

      And the price of the product? And the complexity? And the dimensions?
      1. +1
        25 October 2021 21: 32
        Quote: Hitriy Zhuk
        Can I put the Needle there?
        Then the range will be higher.

        And why not, the existing MANPADS are launched from the shoulder, that is, the operator stands waiting, and how long a person can stand in such tension, and then it would be justified to launch the rocket using a mortar method, this will significantly increase the range and altitude of the rocket, and detect the operator with MANPADS on the shoulder a lot forgiven than say a lonely launch container with a rocket, and the operator at this time lies somewhere in the shelter. If today it is possible to maintain communication with the UAV at a distance, then it is possible to establish communication with the launcher
        1. Alf
          0
          25 October 2021 22: 24
          Quote: agond
          And the price of the product? And the complexity? And the dimensions?
          1. +1
            26 October 2021 17: 45
            All sorts of mines are needed, both simple and complex, there is no single solution, in some cases it is possible to install sensors instead of mines that will transmit to the "remote control" about the presence of an enemy and the operator can direct the UAV to the place of triggering the sensor or fire a square from the same mortar, by the way, the mortar itself as a mine can be disposable with remote control, although you will have to use an adjustable mine
  12. 0
    30 November 2021 20: 35
    "it is a cube with a face less than half a meter" - a flat cube, or what? Do you think not to the point? I do not think.
  13. 0
    25 December 2021 14: 56
    Most likely, the helicopter carrying Putin could be shot down with the Boomerang anti-helicopter mines.
    To minimize this probability, he needs to make such flights over Moscow as rarely as possible and when visiting other Russian places.
  14. -1
    30 December 2021 16: 05
    I read it ... in short, neither the author of the article, nor the commentators are clearly not in the subject. The situation with these mines is twofold. For the Russian army, a very effective weapon, for NATO wasted funds.
    In short, read:
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5ac0950fd7bf2113e95daebd/neskolko-slov-o-puskah-ptur-5f7ae3a771c44f0829c2cde1
  15. 0
    3 January 2022 13: 04
    But what does the Russian Federation have to do with the development of the 80s?
  16. 0
    15 January 2022 11: 40
    In the bottom line, this is not a means, it is "an element of the counteraction complex ..."
    Yes, I don't even know. Probably This is for the Strugatskys, with their "Inhabited Island" and "cleansing zones" ...
  17. 0
    25 January 2022 08: 06
    There is already better!
  18. 0
    13 March 2023 23: 40
    The idea of ​​creating anti-helicopter mines is not new.


  19. 0
    13 March 2023 23: 45
    The Vietnamese made "anti-helicopter mines" literally from g@vna and sticks.



  20. 0
    14 March 2023 01: 05
    Other anti-helicopter mines are also known. Here is a very interesting article I found on the subject.




  21. 0
    14 March 2023 01: 12
    ☝beginning of the article
  22. 0
    14 March 2023 01: 19
    ☝ the middle of the article is above in the comment

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