"Nobody took off the berets": The Rosgvardia called the incident on the test "emotions"

The Rosgvardia denied the removal of maroon berets by fighters of special units during a test conducted in the Stavropol Territory. At the same time, the official representative of the department called the fight "emotions".

The Rosgvardia commented on the information that appeared in the media about the fight that took place between the special forces soldiers when passing the exam for the maroon beret in the Stavropol Territory. According to Valery Gribakin, who is the official representative of the department, the scuffle with the participation of fighters from the 604th Vityaz special forces center and fighters from other units happened "because of emotions." At the same time, none of the fighters refused the maroon berets and did not take them off.

Gribakin said that he was very surprised news about berets, since fighters who have earned the right to wear a maroon beret do not take it off even in front of the enemy, and then they disagree with the results of the competition.

(...) in this case, there were no fights, much less a showdown. These are just emotions, and the strongest won as always

- said the official representative of the Russian Guard.

According to the media, the conflict between the soldiers of the 604th Vityaz special forces center and the soldiers from other units took place on October 17 at the Tambukan training center in the Stavropol Territory when passing the exam for the maroon beret. Several competitors from the Chechen Republic were allegedly given a lift while others marched for miles. This fact angered the Vityaz fighters, after which a fight ensued, which was quickly extinguished.

According to other information, the incident took place during the tests for the maroon beret in Grozny, where instructors from "Vityaz" came to take an exam from local special forces soldiers. During the exam, several fighters were allegedly brought up in cars.

Which of the options is correct is still unclear, but it can be argued for sure that seven fighters of the Rosgvardia units from Chechnya received the right to wear a maroon beret. As the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, wrote on his VKontakte page, today 43 krapoviks are serving in special forces in the Chechen Republic.

A video of the incident from passing the exam for maroon beret is presented on the network: "Maroon Beret Exam Fight"

Comments

[Niko]

Typical reaction of the bosses: where we did not know, what was we don’t know, but nothing happened at all, everything is in order, but you can watch the video of the fight

[Far B]

According to Valery Gribakin, who is the official representative of the department, the scuffle with the participation of fighters from the 604th special purpose center "Vityaz" and fighters from other units happened "because of emotions."

So Rosgvardia denied the fact of the fight And its official representative, Gribakin, did not deny it. But Gribakin denied the fact that the berets had been removed. Tin. They would at least agree on the testimony there, or something

[NDR-791]

Quote: Dalny V

They would at least agree on the testimony there, or something

Why reconcile? It's easier to chat this way. It was, was not, where it was, I don't know, they did not report, but they did not report it to me ... And that's it, the edges cannot be found.

[Captain45]

Quote: NDR-791

Quote: Dalny V
They would at least agree on the testimony there, or something

Why reconcile? It's easier to chat this way. It was, was not, where it was, I don't know, they did not report, but they did not report it to me ... And that's it, the edges cannot be found.

As V. Balkov noted in one of his works: "We do not know what will happen to us, where it will be and how it will be, but we know for sure that it may not be." (c), while another contemporary writer also has an interesting thought: "This is how it is always in Russia, you sit and expect nasty things."

[mojohed2012]

Well, typical! As the head of the National Guard rocked, they say: Navalny went to fight! So what? And that's it! Zilch and bad smell in the end remained!

[carstorm 11]

In my school, what is now called a fight was usually called knocking.

[Niko]

Quote: Far In

According to Valery Gribakin, who is the official representative of the department, the scuffle with the participation of fighters from the 604th special purpose center "Vityaz" and fighters from other units happened "because of emotions."

So Rosgvardia denied the fact of the fight And its official representative, Gribakin, did not deny it. But Gribakin denied the fact that the berets had been removed. Tin. They would at least agree on the testimony there, or something

Wait, they will also hold an explanatory conversation with the guys, and they will lower their eyes and say that all this really seemed to be imagined, well, how could such great warriors, friends of their own, have done this?

[Glory1974]

But Gribakin denied the fact that the berets had been removed.

Gribakin is lying. The commandos, after the unjust award of the maroon beret to the loshars who were being driven by car, refused to wear their berets, but put on statutory caps.

[Looking for]

this would be done by the special forces of ANY COUNTRY.

[Dart2027]

Quote: glory1974

refused to wear their berets, but put on statutory caps

And where did they get them. Are they carrying a whole wardrobe with them?

[Glory1974]

And where did they get them. Are they carrying a whole wardrobe with them?

the cap is always with you. Under the helmet they don’t wear them and don’t take them for combat

[Barberry25]

brawl is not a fight)

[Terenin]

Gribakin. ... These are just emotions, but the strongest won as always

Emotions, by the way, are an integral part of the task when putting on a maroon beret.

[Terenin]

Several competitors from the Chechen Republic were allegedly given a lift while others marched for miles.

There must be a mandatory service check. If confirmed, cancellation of the surrender and disciplinary action.
Reason: Regulation "On qualification tests for the right to wear a maroon beret"
Extract:

FOR ACTIONS DISCREDITING THE TITLE OF A SPECIAL PURPOSE MILITARY UNIT, THE MILITARY MAY BE DROPPED OF THE RIGHT TO WEAR THE KRAPOVOE BERET
Discrediting the rank of a soldier of a special purpose unit is:
A. Manifestation of elements of cowardice and cowardice in the course of hostilities.
B. Miscalculations and unreasonable actions that resulted in the death of comrades, disruption of the combat mission and other grave consequences.
B. Decrease in the level of their physical and special training.
D. The use of special techniques of hand-to-hand combat outside a combat situation and for selfish purposes.
E. Allowing Harassment.
E. Gross violations of general military regulations and criminal legislation.
G. Systematic violation of military discipline.
The decision on the deprivation of the right to wear the maroon beret is made by the Council of the maroon berets of the military unit at the request of the unit commander.

[parma]

Quote: Terenin

Several competitors from the Chechen Republic were allegedly given a lift while others marched for miles.

There must be a mandatory service check. If confirmed, cancellation of the surrender and disciplinary action.
Reason: Regulation "On qualification tests for the right to wear a maroon beret"
Extract:

FOR ACTIONS DISCREDITING THE TITLE OF A SPECIAL PURPOSE MILITARY UNIT, THE MILITARY MAY BE DROPPED OF THE RIGHT TO WEAR THE KRAPOVOE BERET
Discrediting the rank of a soldier of a special purpose unit is:
A. Manifestation of elements of cowardice and cowardice in the course of hostilities.
B. Miscalculations and unreasonable actions that resulted in the death of comrades, disruption of the combat mission and other grave consequences.
B. Decrease in the level of their physical and special training.
D. The use of special techniques of hand-to-hand combat outside a combat situation and for selfish purposes.
E. Allowing Harassment.
E. Gross violations of general military regulations and criminal legislation.
G. Systematic violation of military discipline.
The decision on the deprivation of the right to wear the maroon beret is made by the Council of the maroon berets of the military unit at the request of the unit commander.

According to rumors, the nephew of the President of Chechnya handed over there, well, and for receiving a beret, the local is given a million ... so they will keep silent as they can, then let's see what the honor of the soldiers of the RG is worth in their own opinion ...

[Jcvai]

So capitalism: someone buys a medallion with rhinestones for the whole belly, someone takes a maroon, someone an order ...
The key problem here is that since the start of sales, this has already begun to strain those who deservedly received. And when, without hiding, they put it on the stream ...
In general, it is time to introduce the classification of the form: a classic for "left rogues" and with gold dollars on buttonholes "for friends", and it will be easier: the military leadership should immediately distinguish - who can be sent into battle, and who can be sent to the galley for condensed milk.

[Silver bullet]

There must be a mandatory service check. If confirmed, cancellation of the surrender and disciplinary action.
Absolutely true colleague, but I would add, since the case is resonant, involve the military prosecutor's office in the inspection, and if the fact of bribery of the command is revealed, then the military investigation to initiate criminal proceedings against those who paid for the maroon beret and those who took the money. And make the process open so that would-be merchants in uniform do not itch their hands.

[syndicalist]

You apparently did not pay attention to WHAT place the incident took place.

[mitroha]

Quote: syndicalist

You apparently did not pay attention to WHAT place the incident took place.

Well, I see at least two versions, the Stavropol Territory and Chechnya. So in WHAT?

[Per se.]

Quote: Mitroha

So in WHAT?

In any case, Chechen security officials are involved in the topic. One involuntarily recalls that the Russian Special Forces University, the first and only educational institution in the country, is located in Gudermes.

[Uran53]

So it is so, but there are whole peoples in the country for whom the laws of the Russian Federation are not binding. Chechens are one of them. So everything will be released on the brakes

[Semen Sychev]

There will be nothing. The Chechens will be wearing berets, the former maroon will remain silent, because the service dogs and the will of the owner in the Kremlin are more valuable to them. And his will today is such that Chechens in berets and with a bonus from the budget from Kadyrov, and maroon go to vote for United Russia.

[VORON538]

Victim of the Ukrainian agitprop, do you even know why the maroon beret is handed over to the soldiers? Or your knowledge at the call of dyti level Well then, go to your air graves, they are certainly not cake, but that's enough for you. And these are not the speckles of Russia.

[Semen Sychev]

Of course I am a victim, of course, of the Ukrainian agitprop. After all, it is so easy to write down anyone as an enemy when the Chechen gentlemen on horseback ride for a maroon beret, regardless of any traditions. If only I could still be expelled from Russia and all troubles would disappear.

[New Year day]

Quote: Semyon Sychev

Of course I am a victim, of course, of the Ukrainian agitprop.

Do not pay attention to the local agitprom, pontorezka works

[VORON538]

Who would have doubted. Here and pulled up to the aid of the Ukrainian fighters with the Russian red-haired Putin, our famous former Ukrainian Sylvester type from the Crimea from the Crimea medic Will you live to see the revolution, or will you die in anger towards the Russians?

[Semen Sychev]

Everything. Officially leaked.

Applicants for the maroon beret from Chechnya did not deceive the judges during the tests in the Stavropol Territory, but they were not brought up in cars, but fans and fighters who had left the race.
“I don’t know where the rumors came from that the candidates from Chechnya were being transported in cars,” Ruslan Mamudov said.

Glory to the Chechen maroon berets!

[midivan]

Quote: Terenin

There must be a mandatory service check. If confirmed, cancellation of the surrender and disciplinary action.

But what about yourself, really those who "cheated" (another similar word suggests itself) will wear a beret with pride, how will he appear before relatives and parents, how will he appear in a beret in front of friends? I just can't understand this, just in shock .. Like, look close and guys how I deceived everyone, now I am a real fighter and a man! Yes, it's a shame somehow, in our shameful time even a highlander can offend a girl (Moscow, metro), deceive friends and relatives! And when the same was shot for the loss of dignity. Where are we going, what's going on? (Rhetorical question) .... PS- Stop the earth, I'll get off!

[Terenin]

Quote: midivan

Like, look close and guys how I deceived everyone, now I am a real fighter and a man!

I drew an analogy (below the post) with the sale by Georgians of the "titles" of "thieves in law" ...
Such facts simply lead to worthlessness and the loss of the meaning of these achievements, titles, distinctions ...

[Barberry25]

well, according to those records that there are claims on the network against 2 out of 7 who received berets ... here in any case it will be clear that the current will be clear next year, when in the south there will be another exam for berets

[Vladimir_2U]

Moreover, with participants inconvenient for the Russian government (Chechnya) and for a very inconvenient reason (venality).

[Snail N9]

I say, everything is within the framework of what has been built in our country: all around lies, cronyism and money. A fight is "emotions", yeah, like an "explosion", this is "cotton", "economic decline" is "growth with negative indicators", etc.

[Hypertension]

Recently there was a case in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug - a crowd of Chechens almost lynched a police officer who got into an accident with a Chechen's car. Here they fight with speckles. It seems that the Cart even has a video. And the commander of the Chechen riot police, Bisaev, at the presentation of the maroon beret did not kneel when putting on the beret, as tradition requires. Like - you need to kneel only before Allah. They have their own concepts, and they do not care about the laws and traditions of Russia. And the recent conflicts with the Dagestanis are still on the radar. Subsidized regions, but behave like masters in Russia. It will not end well ...

[Semen Sychev]

Quote: Hyperion

but behave like masters in Russia

They are the masters of Russia. Or have you been asleep for the last decade?

[New Year day]

Quote: Hyperion

Subsidized regions, but behave like masters in Russia.

Think about it, why? The Turks had janissaries, Putin had Chechnya

[Hypertension]

Quote: Silvestr

The Turks had janissaries, Putin had Chechnya

It's like that. Only the janissaries participated in the major wars of the Ottoman Empire, and "Putin's foot soldiers" are questionable.

[Crowe]

Typical reactions from superiors

I see nothing, I hear nothing, I don't know anything, I won't tell anyone. I don't see anything, I don't hear anything. I don't know, I won't tell anyone.

[Pilot]

Trying to put a good face on a bad game? The bosses, damn it ..

[Sentinel-vs]

Why do Chechens and Dagestanis appear in most news related to dishonest refereeing, challenging refereeing, and fighting after a loss? National trait?

[knn54]

Sentinel-vs. It's a shame, you know, he gave so many lambs, but here ...

[New Year day]

Quote: knn54

So many lambs gave

How many lambs can you buy for a lemon?

[Glory1974]

as soon as I read the title of the news, I immediately thought about these. National trait to deceive, take advantage of the weakness of another, hypocrisy, etc. Well, they made such a reputation for themselves.

[Lynx2000]

So much for your fighting brotherhood ?! This test for the right to wear the maroon beret confirms the physical and combat training, as well as the moral and volitional qualities of the fighter, the maroon beret certifies this, and is not a "headdress for show-off".
If the candidates cheated in the tests, how can other fighters then rely on such "specks" in battle ?! There is no place for such in the detachments ...
I believe that the anger of the fighters who noticed such cheating is fair.

[BARKAS]

If test candidates cheated, then how can other fighters rely on such "specks" in battle?

And these "krapoviki" will then be able to participate in the examination themselves, if the results are not canceled, then this will not be the last episode.

[Igoresha]

So much for your fighting brotherhood ?!

even though they didn't stab them with a knife, thank you, there was already a case of the murder of the Grom special forces by a Chechen traffic police officer from Kadyrov's regiment, Rafik, though not guilty, 1,5 conditionally, but went on the run

[Terenin]

Quote: Sentinel-vs

do Chechens and Dagestanis appear? National trait?

Maybe yes.
The same thing (analogy in mentality) that happened to the "thieves in law" in Georgia. They turned this coronation into a business, selling "thieves" to the right and to the left, which brought this prison community to nothing.

[mitroha]

Quote: Sentinel-vs

National trait?

Show off.

[midivan]

Quote: Sentinel-vs

Why do Chechens and Dagestanis appear in most news related to dishonest refereeing, challenging refereeing, and fighting after a loss? National trait?

Reading your post, it dawned on me. They began to lose their customs, so to speak, they fit into the world tendencies of democracy, they forget the customs of their ancestors, and what they forget, some clearly spit on their identity, in other words they are assimilated into the global gray mass. It feels like those who want to make us obedient rams win by leaps and bounds, world globalism is gaining the upper hand, and not at a very high price.

[jovanni]

I don't know what really happened there, but the saying

Gribakin said that he was very surprised by the news about the berets, since the fighters who have earned the right to wear the maroon beret do not take it off even in front of the enemy, and then they disagree with the results of the competition.

... very revealing!
The master does not understand that the enemy is the enemy. There are no questions for him. But when your responsible comrades are ready to juggle, play around and cunningly ass, this is completely different, this is a stab in the back, it smells of betrayal ...

[Bez 310]

Yeah, they've sunk ...
"This is some kind of shame."

[Terenin]

From the traditions of the development of special forces. Glory to the Spetsnaz - dare the terrorists!

[Clear]

Quote: Terenin

From the traditions of the development of special forces. Glory to the Spetsnaz - dare the terrorists!

Gene, why are the speckles from the Sofrinskaya brigade breaking their beret on the right side?

[Terenin]

Quote: Clear

Quote: Terenin

From the traditions of the development of special forces. Glory to the Spetsnaz - dare the terrorists!

Gene, why are the speckles from the Sofrinskaya brigade breaking their beret on the right side?

Hi, Clear
Their first commander, Valera Chernyshov, at the end of the 80s (beginning of Fergana, etc.), when there was no single regulation on wearing, formulated and approved the beret on the right side as a "continuation of the hand in a military greeting" ... So the Sofrintsy have been following this since then.
This tradition is stronger than any document.

[_TANKIST_]

The funniest part is the REALLY Cowardly Behavior of the "management". In my opinion, in this situation, if the citizens who violated the rules for the delivery, really realized / were afraid of the severity of the consequences, then they would not have such thoughts in their heads, but here, if everything is for sale, even the maroon now takes a price tag and the venal / treacherous policy of the "management", instead of reacting harshly, tell everything as it is, if "it has surfaced", then what can we talk about (((. took apart))))

[72jora72]

What's funny is the REALLY Cowardly behavior of the "management".

It's just that something is rotten in the "Danish" kingdom .....

[Doccor18]

Quote: 72jora72

It's just that something is rotten in the "Danish" kingdom .....

Roof...

[Pessimist22]

The Hero of Russia was devalued, and now the maroon beret.

[Furious bambr]

That is, they do not deny that the Czechs were brought up by cars on the march and that they crap in full during the alp assault ?! For the slightest violation, they are removed from the distance, and then they reached the end, and even got a beret)
Well, for the sake of completeness, https://www.yaplakal.com/forum1/topic2339687.html

[RomanRS]

This is where the main war against Russia is being fought. And no nuclear weapons will help here.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

"said the official representative of the Russian Guard"
I think he’s lying, politics has gone into action - they’ll shut up, and God bless them ... The main thing that I now know is that there is a real maroon, and there is a Chechen one. The attitude will be appropriate.

[ugol2]

No matter how someone treats the Caucasians, but this is a fly. And specific. What kind of warrior is this who is taken in a jeep for exams? What respect is there for this "man" now?
I think the locals there without the bosses will deal with him.

[parma]

Quote: ugol2

No matter how someone treats the Caucasians, but this is a fly. And specific. What kind of warrior is this who is taken in a jeep for exams? What respect is there for this "man" now?
I think the locals there without the bosses will deal with him.

Have you seen the video? There, these "wars" sit and rest during the march, the local "instructors" carry weapons for them, drag and push, the cars themselves drive, and so on ... it was the locals who pounced on the visiting instructors when the question arose about removing ...

[Earnest]

At one time E. Uspensky wrote about them:
"... Just finished lunch -
The advice started right away
About campaigns and battles
And about military operations.

“So who are we going to send for intelligence?”
- Of course, grandmother and grandfather.
Let them be like two tourists
Creep in three hundred kilometers
To find out where the rockets are
And where they sell sweets.

- And who will hold the defense?
- Call Uncle Andron.
He works as a watchman in the trust
He will lay all enemies on the spot ... "

[Cowbra]

Well guys, there's just nowhere to go

[Seal]

Once upon a time, when the body still allowed, I had a chance to drink with the Pennants. Not all of them, of course, were alfists and others, even civilians. We were drinking to the songs. I remember the remake of the song:
Several or all of them sing in chorus at once.

"Come on for them, come on for us
And for the landing, and for the special forces .. "

At this point, a lonely voice enters (the one who sang this phrase tried to sing in a thin voice)

.. "And for the Chechen Wahu".

And here the choir gained the greatest power, everyone connected, even those who had not sung before, and the choir gave out a line
"................................................. ".
I can't cite a line for censorship reasons, and until recently I was in warnings, like a New Year tree, and now I am growing again. But hopefully most will guess. Or have heard too.
The line begins with a wish to go ...

[MauZerR]

"Ne was beating nichevo, Rifik is completely innocent." The typical reaction of our top management is: "These are not our wives, these are not our watches, these are not us, they are not there." Now a fight is no longer a fight, but emotions, by analogy with a cotton instead of an explosion, negative growth instead of a fall ... Shame.

[Alex Justice]

The pink berets must be handed over to the crooks and shown on the news.

[Ural resident]

As always, the "horsemen" distinguished themselves. Honestly, it takes little to earn money, the old method is used - all the squadron swoop in. It is strange that the military leadership bends under "these".
To be honest, the very fact of building a special forces training center in Chechnya has long been in doubt. It is clear that our top bosses are trying in every way to make peace, but why else should we train them on special operations? It is enough to read history: the Caucasian wars have always existed and will continue to exist, and who will this center serve then? They would run there through their mountains and they will have enough entertainment. It would be better if we went to work, otherwise they beat ourselves in the chest: we are warriors, warriors, and we cannot honestly pass the standard.

[Igoresha]

that our higher authorities are trying in every way to make peace

in the Airborne Forces, it seems, they still do not take it ... a similar practice was in Ukraine. natives of the western region and the Crimea were taken to the marines

[VORON538]

I will not argue about your personal knowledge, maybe your standards could not pass, but in the years of my deadline, 2001 2003 at 83 OVDBr, all Caucasians passed the standards with excellent marks. Yes, there were few of them and after that it became less, and , you will be surprised that they received luli from RV Bushuev, but the fact that those who serve in the troops now will tear up any enemy, and they are motivated by GDP, their goals and we have common goals. The military lives in the same environment as the fighters, only the military once a year can take the family to the Crimea or our Primorye, and the fighter lives and rests in Central Europe.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

It's funny and embarrassing at the same time ..... on the one hand, for the clowns who are ready to wear with pride "they are not a proper beret", on the other hand, they see nothing for the department commanders, they hear nothing ... like those three monkeys, statuettes! This is so that the Supreme and the "commander" are not offended ??? So soon they will come to the conclusion that these berets will start selling stupidly at a reasonable price!

[Codett]

We arrived, the leaders were just cowards, they were afraid that it would come out sideways for them, so they decided to shut up

[Semen Sychev]

And they will endure it.

[alystan]

Doesn't anyone think that with these (and others too) berets the servicemen themselves are overplaying a little?
And in this case, the words about "on emotions" sound like an excuse for what happened, even as good for the continuation of such clarifications, and not a fight. But nevertheless, according to the representative of the WG:

These are just emotions, and the strongest won as always.

A question to those who are in the subject - Do we have "silly" sergeants-instructors like the American super-sergeants, whom the Americans themselves already consider a little wrong?

[APASUS]

Another attempt by our bosses to hush up the scandal. Although we can safely say that rumors are not born from scratch

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

For 32 years of military service, I have seen enough and heard enough of such responses from the authorities to all kinds of emergencies that I will no longer believe the words of the FSVNG command.

[yfast]

Children of the mountains can be given yellow berets with stripes, on the cockade depict a Mercedes, if they were brought up.