Is underwater sabotage possible on the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline?

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Photo: gazprom.ru

Much has already been written that after the launch of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, the countries of Eastern Europe, namely Ukraine and Poland, will lose multibillion-dollar profits for the transit of gas through their territory from Russia to Europe.

Now, however, information has appeared that Germany is looking for ways to compensate for financial losses for Ukraine through a transit stop, but these will be only pitiful crumbs after the fabulous profits for transit.



It is also worth noting that after Angela Merkel prevented the construction of the SP-2 from stopping, relations between Poland and Germany are now very tense.

However, do not forget that the economy and war are constantly connected.

Moreover, the launch of the SP-2 is still opposed by the Americans, whose satellites in Europe are Poland and Ukraine.

Americans, on the other hand, are good at raking in heat with someone else's hands. And one of such methods, from my point of view, will be sabotage on the SP-2 gas pipeline, which will stop the pumping of gas and bring huge losses to Gazprom. And this sabotage can quite realistically be carried out by the aforementioned American satellites.

At this time, Poland and Ukraine have a combat-ready, well-trained naval special forces, and in addition, Poland also has hidden means for the delivery of combat swimmers.

In Ukraine, as part of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is the 73rd Naval Special Operations Center, whose personnel are well trained and distinguished themselves in the war in the Donbass. One of the tasks of this center is to carry out underwater sabotage.

Poland also has its own naval special forces - this is a naval unit of special actions "Formosa" as part of the Special Forces of the Polish Armed Forces, whose personnel are trained according to NATO standards and are equipped with high-tech equipment.

Do not forget that the Polish Navy has a submarine division, which includes from three to five submarine units, which makes it possible to secretly deliver combat swimmers and explosive devices to places where the gas pipeline is laid at a shallow (up to 50 meters) depth, then there is a place where combat swimmers can work.

Where and who


And there are few such places: these are the coastal regions of Germany and Finland, the Danish island of Bornholm and the Swedish island of Gotland.

It is worth mentioning that Poland already tried in April 2021 to obstruct the construction of the gas pipeline, and the warships of the Polish Navy were actively interfering with their maneuvers of the pipe-laying vessel.

If we assess the possibility of someone whom the Americans can use to sabotage the SP-2, then, given the events of the past seven years, Ukrainians have more motivation to carry out such an anti-Russian sabotage, especially since in 2014 the Ukrainian media were full of the news about the Russian trail of explosions on Ukrainian gas pipelines.

At the same time, it will be technically easier for the Poles to do this, based on the fact that they have submarines and are trained to use them for covert delivery of combat swimmers, the area of ​​the operation is close to Poland, and the natural and geographical features of the Baltic Sea are well known to the Poles.

It will not be difficult to plan, prepare and carry out such an operation, especially with the assistance of the United States, which can provide the latest intelligence information and modern means of detonation (powerful small-sized charges on remote control or with a timer).

And what is characteristic is that Russia will never, under any circumstances, prove the involvement of either the United States, Poland or Ukraine in this sabotage, except for the case when the underwater saboteurs are caught by the hand.

Counteraction


What can the Russian leadership do to counter the underwater explosion of the SP-2, which will bring both financial and reputational losses?

At this time, it is necessary to identify all possible areas for such sabotage, saturate these areas with various underwater tracking sensors, constantly monitor these areas with aerial and space reconnaissance means, and also ask for permission from Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland to constantly patrol these areas in their territorial waters by the ships of the Border Service of the FSB of Russia.

If this is not undertaken in the near future, then the possibility of an underwater explosion at SP-2 will only increase every day.
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  1. -2
    20 October 2021 11: 08
    Wars over oil began? This will be the first and last because of gas. Some countries will disappear from the map of Europe and not only Europe.
    1. 0
      20 October 2021 11: 09
      It is necessary to clearly indicate to everyone that Russia will defend its economic interests in all possible ways! Including the military!
      1. +5
        20 October 2021 11: 39
        Quote: Finches
        It is necessary to clearly indicate to everyone that Russia will defend its economic interests in all possible ways! Including the military!

        Russia definitely needs to warn them about this! Namely.

        Was there any sabotage on the construction of the SP-2 by Poland, Ukraine and the United States? Was.
        So in the event of an explosion in the SP-2, Russia also needs to act in an American way - that is, Russia does not even need to prove their guilt in the explosion of the "SP-2". There should not be any presumption of their alleged INnocence! Everyone is under suspicion.

        It must be assumed that Ukraine, Poland, the United States and other countries are screaming to the whole world about Russia's alleged "aggressiveness" about the "SP-2" because they are afraid that if they blow up the "SP-2", then suddenly from Russia in military terms, it will naturally get it.
        1. -3
          20 October 2021 11: 52
          I agree with you - any sabotage on SP-2 is a CIA operation by the hands of the APU!
        2. +6
          20 October 2021 13: 07
          There is a small problem: if SP2 suddenly explodes tomorrow, start a nuclear war or an overland invasion?
          For
          1. Obviously, there is no clear evidence. There are only suspicions and indirect ones. But it can also, for example, the Mossad work out in the framework of the bleeding ...
          2. Let's say there is sufficient evidence, but what next? International institutions of retaliation and deterrence have long been gone: NATO is the enemy, the UN is a fiction. Of the potential strong allies abroad - only China, but our SP2 did not surrender to them for nothing, it is easier to finish off the weakened later.

          Actually, a narrow line, when you can only guard and shoot at the approaches (on your own, subject to agreement with the authorities of the territories through which SP2 passes, plus the armed forces of these (passing SP2 and key consumers) countries) and that's it. The rest with a high probability will only lead to a global catastrophe.
          Is it possible to consider options for an "asymmetric" response by special operations forces: for example, a hole appeared in the gas pipeline - Great Britain went under water, an underwater explosion occurred - tectonic shifts began in North America ... But ...
          1. +1
            20 October 2021 21: 12
            Quote: JcVai
            There is a small problem: if SP2 suddenly explodes tomorrow, start a nuclear war or an overland invasion?
            For
            1. Obviously, there is no clear evidence. There are only suspicions and indirect ones. But it can also, for example, the Mossad work out in the framework of the bleeding ...

            So after all, no one will immediately kick back in response. The ship will calmly and decorously approach, cut out a section of the damaged pipe, raise it to the surface and reveal to the world what the pipe is. It will not be difficult to distinguish a pipe rupture from internal pressure, or from the external influence of an explosive device. Considering that the explosion was carried out in a liquid medium, the fragments of the explosive device will not fly far away, but will be located nearby and represent large enough fractions, according to which specially trained people can establish the type of explosive device and its affiliation, so that indirect suspicions become irrefutable evidence ... How would such an algorithm emerge. winked
            1. 0
              21 October 2021 21: 14
              Everything is theoretically possible! But practically - hardly. Not to mention the terrible international scandal and ostracism towards the performers who will undoubtedly become famous.
      2. +17
        20 October 2021 11: 44
        Quote: Finches
        It is necessary to clearly indicate to everyone that Russia will defend its economic interests in all possible ways! Including the military!

        hi The Russian leadership can designate. But will he be able to confirm on occasion? After all, there were situations when they declared, but did not do.
        1. -7
          20 October 2021 11: 52
          It all depends on political will and determination! I hope it will be enough!
      3. +5
        20 October 2021 11: 47
        Quote: Finches
        It is necessary to clearly indicate to everyone that Russia will defend its economic interests

        I think it is necessary to clearly spell out these possible sabotage in the contracts as force majeure circumstances that do not entail penalties for the supplier and the obligation to compensate for losses to the consumer. This will be the most important weapon against all sabotage. Only the EU will be patient. In this case, she will be the most interested party in the protection of the pipe.
        1. Aag
          0
          20 October 2021 16: 31
          Quote: Hagen
          Quote: Finches
          It is necessary to clearly indicate to everyone that Russia will defend its economic interests

          I think it is necessary to clearly spell out these possible sabotage in the contracts as force majeure circumstances that do not entail penalties for the supplier and the obligation to compensate for losses to the consumer. This will be the most important weapon against all sabotage. Only the EU will be patient. In this case, she will be the most interested party in the protection of the pipe.

          A rare case, - I totally agree with you! We can say ahead)))
          hi
      4. 0
        20 October 2021 12: 43
        Quote: Finches
        It is necessary to clearly indicate to everyone that Russia will defend its economic interests in all possible ways! Including the military!

        Alternatively, similar actions with respect to the Polish gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea may also be carried out by "unidentified" persons.
        The Ukrainian GTS, hopefully, will be damaged by the very beginning of 2025, and not by some saboteurs.

        But in general, it is not entirely clear why the author concentrated exclusively on Poland and Ukraine, as if Europe consists only of these two countries. You might think that the rest of Europe and the United States defended the SP-2 with their broad breasts from the insolent duo of flawed beggars.
        1. 0
          20 October 2021 21: 27
          Quote: credo
          But in general, it is not entirely clear why did the author focus exclusively on Poland and Ukraineas if Europe consists only of these two countries. You might think that the rest of Europe and the United States defended the SP-2 with their broad breasts from the insolent duo of flawed beggars.

          So after all, it is these two countries that will be the loudest and will be hysterical, since from the launch of the SP-2 they will suffer to a greater extent, having lost their transit advantages, and, accordingly, will incur no small financial losses. In principle, the operating SP-1 does not differ much from the SP-2, and it seems that as a result of these hysterics and the current energy crisis, construction of SP-3 will begin in a year or two.
        2. 0
          21 October 2021 14: 13
          And on the territory of the Russian Federation, from the actions of unknown saboteurs, the Ukrainian branch of the pipeline can suffer much more ... After all, what villains, they blew it up and then blew it up ... Obviously, this is not directed against SP-2, but against Europe .. And Europe is poor, it is starting to freeze ... So there is no time for political games, it is necessary to restore and protect with all our might what is faster (for example, SP-2), until Europe is completely frozen ...
    2. 0
      20 October 2021 11: 11
      yes, it is unlikely, there will be another concern, no more.
  2. +16
    20 October 2021 11: 09
    by means of aerial and space reconnaissance, as well as to ask permission from Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland for permanent patrolling of these areas in their territorial waters by ships of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia.

    The author, what are you using?
    It must be the same, the ships of the FSB of the Russian Federation go out into the waters "-Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland on constant patrol ..." belay
    1. +2
      20 October 2021 11: 21
      The joint venture enters thervody at the input to Germany. The rest goes to economic zones.
    2. +3
      20 October 2021 12: 10
      Quote: Mitroha
      on constant patrol ... "

      Buryat armored divers will ensure the immunity of the SP-2 laughing
  3. -1
    20 October 2021 11: 13
    Yes, immediately preemptive strikes against Poland and Ukraine, for the future, so that everyone does not think anything.
    1. 0
      20 October 2021 11: 27
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Yes, immediately preemptive strikes against Poland and Ukraine, for the future, so that everyone does not think anything.

      Probably, this is also why Ukraine, Poland, and other countries are screaming to the whole world about the alleged "aggressiveness" of Russia about the "SP-2" - they are afraid that if they blow up the "SP-2", then suddenly they are from Russia in the military the plan will get it.
    2. -1
      20 October 2021 13: 31
      Yes, immediately preventive strikes - well, why immediately warn both Poland and Ukraine and other heroes that, in order not to disappear from the globe, they must guard the gas pipelines and pray to God that nothing happens, otherwise they all have to meet with God at the same time with the whole herd!
    3. +2
      20 October 2021 15: 27
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Yes, immediately preventive strikes on Poland and Ukraine, for the future, so that they do not think anything.
      Well, yes. Is there a corresponding article on "VO"? There is! We started ...
      And in order to sustainably replenish the family budget, the author needs to further develop the direction "Is it possible ...". It can turn out to be an excellent cycle, from "is it possible that a brick will fall on your head" to "is it possible to capture the Kremlin by alien forces."
  4. +10
    20 October 2021 11: 15
    SP-1 is already in place and no one is blowing it up. Why will the SP-2 be blown up?

    And one more consideration: these pipelines have two ends. One in Russia, the other, as you might guess, in Germany.
    In case of sabotage, both will have losses. And Germany will certainly pull the guts over the top of the head of these saboteurs and tie them up with a bow.

    And sabotage itself will play into the hands of Russia - there will be a reinforced concrete reason for building up forces in the Baltic to "counter economic terrorism." Approximately 09.11 for the USA.
  5. +4
    20 October 2021 11: 17
    Enchanting.
    An EU country and a country aspiring to the EU become a threat to the EU and are ready for terrorist attacks against the EU.
  6. +8
    20 October 2021 11: 21
    Then it is necessary to take care in a similar way about the Turkish Stream, the Power of Siberia, and in general about all gas and oil pipelines going through other countries. Better yet, occupy Poland, Ukraine, under the pretext of combating terrorist acts on Russian gas pipelines and obtain UN sanction for this, or even better to form an international force. laughing
  7. +5
    20 October 2021 11: 22
    Plan, prepare and carry out such an operation, especially with the assistance of the United States

    relations between Poland and Germany are now very tense.

    It is unlikely that the Poles would risk such a quarrel with Germany. The states are far away, but Germany is near. And he will be able to spoil life quickly and with a guarantee.
  8. +1
    20 October 2021 11: 27
    "And what is characteristic - Russia will never and under no circumstances prove the involvement of either the United States, Poland or Ukraine in this sabotage." And there is no need to prove, immediately stop pumping through Poland and Ukraine, let them freeze, their brains begin to work better! It was not Russia that started this gas war, but it is capable of ending this war, only the political WILL of the country's leadership is needed.
    1. -1
      20 October 2021 12: 43
      Blow up pipes in Poland and Ukraine, blame them on the states (they will then pump their LPG there at an exorbitant price, which is not a motive).
      But in general it is some kind of sur, to blow up the SP-2 under water. Who did this last time? Explosion of a hefty steel pipe at a depth of 50 meters.
  9. -1
    20 October 2021 11: 28
    Everything is possible. since it all depends on the position of our leadership - it will be clearly indicated that sabotage will instantly and severely affect all interested parties, regardless of the degree of participation, and the probability of the above event will immediately tend to zero.
  10. +2
    20 October 2021 11: 31
    They are unlikely to take such a step. If it only concerned Russia, but this applies to almost all of Europe. And it is unlikely that the Finns, Danes, Swedes and Germans will calmly look at the explosion of a gas pipeline in their waters. And they themselves protect their waters well enough. It's one thing to shout at every corner at the top of your voice that Russian bastards and accuse Russia of aggression. Another thing is to carry out sabotage in the territorial waters of European countries.
  11. 0
    20 October 2021 11: 41
    Is underwater sabotage possible on the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline?
    It is strange to discuss this, but we have to admit that some of the brains have completely moved to one side ... alas, alas, this is so and this is a threat.
  12. +1
    20 October 2021 11: 43
    The problem is that the damage will not be done to Russia, but to Russia, Germany, Britain, Holland - and even before the heap. Shell and Basf are strangers in SP-2?
  13. -2
    20 October 2021 11: 46
    Moreover, the launch of the SP-2 is still opposed by the Americans.

    They don't resist anymore. They do not mind if the Germans promise to get Gazprom to maintain transit through Ukraine. And then time will tell how it goes.
    one of such methods will be, from my point of view, sabotage on the SP-2 gas pipeline, which will stop the pumping of gas and bring huge losses to Gazprom

    Unlikely. I will simply reorient temporarily the flow through Ukraine. After the United States showed its teeth in the form of sanctions against SP2, there were repeated statements from Gazprom that they did not plan to completely stop transit through Ukraine. Before that, yes, there were statements that they wanted to stop completely. So just temporarily increase the flow through another pipe for the duration of the repair. This will not affect the Germans at all, the gas to them as it went, and will continue to go.
    About sabotage on SP2. This does not require any naval special forces or submarine. The route of the gas pipeline itself is not a secret; you can always clarify it with an ordinary civilian echo sounder showing the bottom profile.
    To lay the charge, you only need a long rope or cable. That is, technically it is not a problem to commit such a terrorist attack.
    A faceless fishing boat, or even just a small boat, will go across the gas pipeline in a paradise of relatively shallow depths, and in a couple of days there will be an explosion.
    But logically, a completely meaningless action.
    Will not change anything and will not cause any significant damage to Gazprom.
    But if the one who is behind this comes up, then he will have very big problems. It is clear who they will immediately think of.
    So neither Ukraine nor Poland has the slightest sense to commit such a terrorist attack, it is just a far-fetched problem.
    request permission from Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland to permanently patrol these areas in their territorial waters by ships of the Russian FSB Border Guard Service

    the idea is so unrealistic that it is not even serious to condemn.
    not to mention, where did the author get the idea that SP2 passes through territorial waters, except for Germany? It passes through the economic zone, not the terrorist waters, which is far from the same thing.
    In the economic zone, no one bothers the border guard patrolman.
    1. +1
      20 October 2021 12: 20
      Quote: Avior
      Unlikely. I will simply reorient temporarily the flow through Ukraine.

      You have already been told (though in Russian):
      Russia can no longer increase gas supplies to Europe through Ukraine, as the gas transportation system of this country is worn out by 80%. This assessment was announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Russian Energy Week forum.
      “You can't increase it there anymore. Everyone is hinting to us: increase more supplies through Ukraine. Dangerous to increase! The GTS has not been repaired there for decades. There, maybe, if you increase the pressure, it will burst altogether. Europe will completely lose this route"- Putin said in response to a question from CNBC journalist Headley Gamble.
      1. 0
        20 October 2021 14: 09
        Did you seriously write this?
        And can you give links to serious accidents at the Ukrainian gas transportation system in recent years?
        Something like this, for example, recently in August
        The accident at the Gazprom plant near Novy Urengoy will lead to a decrease in gas production by eight billion cubic meters and by five million tons of gas condensate in 2021. This was reported on Friday, August 6, by Interfax, citing estimates by Renaissance Capital analysts.

        Or is it fresh in October already
        The explosion at the Amur Gas Processing Plant (GPP), located in the city of Svobodny, Amur Region, thundered due to the depressurization of the equipment. This was reported by RIA Novosti with reference to the press service of the enterprise.
        “There was a depressurization of the equipment on the second technological line with the release and ignition of gas as part of bringing the unit to normal technological mode,” the press service said.

        Putin vaguely said “maybe”, what is your answer? Maybe, maybe not ...
        1. 0
          20 October 2021 15: 49
          Quote: Avior
          Putin, then vaguely said “maybe”, what is the answer here?

          You can be skeptical about my answers. I will note that Putin is the president of Russia, much more depends on his words than on mine and even on yours.
          Yes
          1. -2
            20 October 2021 15: 55
            As far as I know, only the Pope has infallibility; this does not apply to presidential positions.
            Again, the presidents - the master of their words - said before the election, the retirement age will not rise, after the election, please treat with understanding.
            The work is such, to speak different words.
  14. +1
    20 October 2021 12: 15
    it is not necessary to anyone. it's comparable to a nuclear strike
  15. +1
    20 October 2021 12: 17
    Most worried about this:
    Now, however, there is information that Germany is looking for ways to compensate for financial losses for Ukraine through a transit stop

    Why did it happen? Does Germany not want to worry about high gas prices for itself with such an incomprehensible activity and a desire to oversee the problems of Ukraine? Some people think that Russia exists only to supply the EU with cheap gas ... fool What kind of firewood is this?
  16. -2
    20 October 2021 12: 23
    After reading the article, I immediately remembered a scene from a famous movie soldier
  17. 0
    20 October 2021 12: 23
    What outsourcing offers is very costly both financially and organizationally. However, if the game is worth the candle, then ...
    It’s easier (if I’m not mistaken) to use the means of military intelligence intelligence, if such is the case, and to work proactively. In the worst case, retribution.
  18. sen
    +2
    20 October 2021 12: 24
    Do not forget that the Polish Navy has a submarine division, which includes from three to five submarine units, which makes it possible to secretly deliver combat swimmers and explosive devices to places where the gas pipeline is laid at a shallow (up to 50 meters) depth, then Do not forget that the Polish Navy has a submarine division, which includes from three to five submarine units, which makes it possible to secretly deliver combat swimmers and explosive devices to places where the gas pipeline is laid on small (up to 50 meters) depth, that is, where frogmen can work.

    At shallow depths, the gas pipeline was covered with stones. In addition, NATO complained about the activity of our ships in the area of ​​the gas pipeline.
  19. -3
    20 October 2021 12: 31
    well, the problem here is not that they can or not, but that there will be a response that the Poles and Ukrainians will not like
  20. -4
    20 October 2021 12: 36
    Once again, I assume there are autonomous sonars on or after EU certifications. And counterintelligence should not yawn. You look and unidentified jammed divers will surface somewhere. drinks
    1. -1
      22 October 2021 18: 10
      For uk .... r commentators-minus. laughing
      If any of Turchin's pastors have more than once voiced delirium about a missile attack on the Crimean bridge, then the measures for vigilant protection of the underwater SP-2 are clearly not superfluous.
  21. -2
    20 October 2021 12: 43
    Well, in this case, a symmetrical answer is also possible.
    Bomb the pipe through 404.
    And asymmetric is also possible.
    Take the pipe through 404 under protection, like they will blow it up next. Well, it's clear with a corridor of 100 kilometers in each direction. laughing

  22. 0
    20 October 2021 13: 02
    And I think that now it is profitable for Gazprom to blow up the pipe. If now the price is 1000 bucks, then after sabotage it can jump up to 2 and 3 thousand. SP2 is currently not pumping gas, which means that there will be no perspiration from transit. Then Gazprom can, at such prices, recoup the idle pipeline.
  23. -3
    20 October 2021 13: 07
    The answer to the question in the title of the article is yes, of course possible.
    Moreover, as we know, for example, on August 23 in the Crimea, the Ukrainians have already sabotaged the gas pipeline. So, in principle, they are ready for such actions.
    On the other hand, one thing is the explosion of the internal Russian gas pipeline, and another is the explosion of a gas pipeline, which is owned not only by Gazprom, but also by several EU member states.
    For Ukraine, the risk is very simple - if it is noticed at least in preparation for a sabotage, all questions on the GTS will be closed immediately. As is the case with Ukraine's membership in NATO, the EU and so on.
    Therefore, as for me, the risks are too high and are not worth the benefits.
  24. 0
    20 October 2021 13: 10
    The current government itself will sell, and your parents, and resources, and our lives, FOR ITS LADIES. And you will provide them forty years, with their lives, their income.
  25. +1
    20 October 2021 13: 17
    I think not everything is so simple. The pipe does not just lie at the bottom of the sea, there were also some barges working filling it with stones, it will be necessary to remove the soil first and then mine the pipe. Which is quite problematic even at shallow depths. In addition, for sure in any international conventions and treaties there is some mention of who ensures the safety of navigation and technological facilities in the territorial and economic zones of countries, they do not get money for using these territories for nothing. So there is a high probability that the explosion (if it is not a technological one) will be carried by a country that has not ensured the safety of a technical structure in its waters.
    1. +3
      20 October 2021 13: 50
      Quote: savage1976
      I think not everything is so simple. The pipe does not just lie at the bottom of the sea, some barges worked there, filling it with stones ...
      A bit wrong. smile
      They used the PL3 Saipem underwater plow, which is shown in the picture below.
      The PL3 Saipem underwater plow is used to reinforce the Nord Stream pipeline in Swedish and Danish waters. Lowering the pipeline below the seabed with PL3 ensures that the pipeline remains stable in position throughout its service life. The plow weighs about 200 tons and is 22 meters long. He can dig a trench with a maximum depth of 2,5 meters.
      https://www.nord-stream.com/press-info/images/the-pl3-plough-2889/?q=&category=&year=all&page=3&per_page=96
      1. +2
        20 October 2021 15: 50
        And here is the message about the beginning of the filling of the pipe. So the difficulty with the explosion will be even greater.
        https://eadaily-com.turbopages.org/turbo/eadaily.com/s/ru/news/2021/09/06/severnyy-potok-2-nachnut-zasypat-v-datskih-vodah
        1. +2
          20 October 2021 16: 42
          Yes, after laying on the ground or in a trench, it is best to cover the pipe. The figures below show shelter schemes for trench and trenchless locations of the subsea gas pipeline.
          Protective embankments over pipelines: a - for an offshore pipeline laid in a trench; b - for an offshore non-buried pipeline; 1 - a layer of solid rock particles; 2 - a layer of sand; 3 - berms of solid rock particles; 4 - a protective layer of solid rock particles; 5 - sand mixture.
          https://lektsii.org/2-18960.html
  26. +2
    20 October 2021 13: 32
    Wikipedia;
    The sole shareholder since 2017 is Gazprom, and Engie (France), OMV (Austria), Shell (England and Wales), Uniper (Germany) [en], Wintershall Dea (Germany) participate as investors.
    At the end of May 2021. US President Joe Biden said that the construction of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline is "almost complete" and the introduction of new sanctions against the project would be "unproductive" for US relations with Europe.


    Question to the author: Doesn't the international nature of the project protect it from your assumptions? You are firmly convinced that such a covert operation against interests, incl. Germany and Great Britain will get sanctioned and get away with its leaders ??
    I'm not sure, and I don't see the problem of sabotage.
    1. -1
      20 October 2021 14: 15
      SP2 was initially international, then it became 100 percent Gazprom
  27. +21
    20 October 2021 14: 22
    constant patrolling of these areas in their territorial waters by ships of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia

    PS FSB of Russia is unlikely. Rather the Russian Navy
  28. 0
    20 October 2021 16: 26
    Quote: Mitroha
    by means of aerial and space reconnaissance, as well as to ask permission from Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland for permanent patrolling of these areas in their territorial waters by ships of the Border Guard Service of the FSB of Russia.

    The author, what are you using?
    It must be the same, the ships of the FSB of the Russian Federation go out into the waters "-Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Finland on constant patrol ..." belay

    War dolphins are our everything laughing
    The answer should be symmetrical: a little air in the GTS of the outskirts and Poland all the way to Lisbon laughing
  29. 0
    20 October 2021 17: 27
    That is, the author believes that such measures were not taken, because no one except him guessed ??)))
    In addition, Ukraine does not have any software at all and, in particular, does not have them in the Baltic. Here the Englishwoman will rather shit. The level of execution of Ukraine .. is so to itself ... With a shovel in the euro parliament. No, it is possible to find suicide bombers with their level of propaganda, but about the naval special forces of Ukraine .. No, I have not heard. Give a couple of boats to Sevastopol and then whine for six months, Shaw Muscovites were taken away.
  30. 0
    20 October 2021 17: 56
    On the one hand, everything is correct.
    on the other hand, what did you want? Capitalism.
    Even in Soviet textbooks, examples were given of how the Omerov oil magnates blew up the pipelines and towers of other similar Omerov magnates.

    So to hire someone through tenth hands - maybe even Honduras. And they are not fools at Gazprom, they should know this. Themselves cranked with the largest shale gas field in Europe ...
  31. -1
    20 October 2021 18: 15
    To respond to every sabotage with a nuclear missile strike on the territories of these countries. To bring this warning officially through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. If Ukraine or Poland receive a nuclear response, it will immediately sober them up.
    1. -1
      20 October 2021 18: 55
      Quote: Dzafdet
      To respond to every sabotage with a nuclear missile strike on the territories of these countries. To bring this warning officially through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. If Ukraine or Poland receive a nuclear response, it will immediately sober them up.

      Why spoil the environment at your side?
      It could be simpler - the remaining gas pipelines are for "preventive maintenance", "technological accidents" will occur at the LNG terminals, you can ask to extradite those responsible for sabotage by winter ...
  32. +1
    21 October 2021 15: 00
    why swimmers? why 50 meters? I have advertised underwater drones a bunch of times on this site in a month, although I am not interested in this topic at all. I haven't even gone fishing for a year. I looked in Yandex for a couple of minutes: https://glazamidrona.ru/gladius/?glubina_pogruzheniya%5B%5D=16 - depth up to 200. This is the first store that came across.
    Why Poland-Ukraine? Yes, anyone who wants to calls Gazprom and asks to list in small unlabeled bitcoins :), otherwise ...
  33. 0
    21 October 2021 17: 55
    During Merkel's last visit to the United States, she most likely shared her Nord Stream 2 shares with Biden. Now it is unprofitable for the United States to put pressure on the enterprise, which is partially owned by itself. So, there will be no sabotage there.
  34. 0
    22 October 2021 06: 35
    1. To prove the sabotage is to put on the table documents with seals and signatures, which indicate the intention to carry out such an operation .... you can catch it red-handed, but the papers will be quite enough.
    2. Stopping gas supplies by force majeure .... is it really bad ??? Gas prices will soar to unprecedented heights, not Gazprom, Dak Novatek, Rosneft, SurgutNefteGaz will be enriched. That is, if gas is in demand, as it is now.
    The sabotage on the gas pipeline is not beneficial to ANYONE. An article without problems.
  35. 0
    22 October 2021 10: 04
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    specially trained people will be able to establish the type of VU and its affiliation

    Well, they will find leftovers that are available for collection / purchase all over the world, maybe even find the bodies of performers half-eaten by crabs. But then everything.
    Is it possible to work according to the manuals of Western "partners": "the criminals hid on bears, dropping a fur hat, a felt boot and a balalaika on the earflaps,"
  36. -1
    22 October 2021 11: 21
    Hopefully their fiber optic lines in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans will suddenly break.

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