Poland intends to build up its military power

According to the leadership of the Law and Justice Party (PiS), Poland intends to radically increase its military power. Bills on this issue will soon be submitted to the lower house of parliament (Diet), and then they will be considered by the upper house (Senate).

Party leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski announced this to the journalists of the Polish radio station RMF FM.

He believes that defense reform should be radical.

We must be strongly strengthened militarily. I'm talking about the radical strengthening of the entire army

- the politician said.

He clarified that he means "far-reaching" reforms that will affect the number of personnel, rearmament of the army with the latest weapons and strengthening the fleet of military equipment.

And although Kaczynski talks about strengthening the Armed Forces in the near future after the approval of parliamentarians, in fact it is already in full swing. Information is already being received about the growth in the number of the Polish Army, the purchase of armored vehicles, drones, aircraft, air defense systems and other equipment.

This shows that Warsaw relies less on military assistance from the United States and more and more relies on its own capabilities. On the other hand, there are no aggressive states among its neighbors planning to invade this Eastern European country. But according to the statement of the Polish elites, the Russian Federation poses a threat to Poland.

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[andr327]

Where does the money come from? Zine
Saving on gas?

[poquello]

Quote: andr327

Where does the money come from? Zine
Saving on gas?

American army of Polish soldiers

[Thrifty]

They would have to pull up the fleet to the American one, to lease aircraft carriers to the vukriy

[poquello]

Quote: Thrifty

They would have to pull up the fleet to the American one, to lease aircraft carriers to the vukriy

they will surrender, these are Poles with dill who think that they were given weapons, and the Americans know that they have collected military meat for themselves

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Thrifty

They would have to pull up the fleet to the American one, to lease aircraft carriers to the vukriy

they will surrender, these are Poles with dill who think that they were given weapons, and the Americans know that they have collected military meat for themselves

Polish politicians have a militaristic psychosis. They have completely gone crazy from the overwhelming Russophobia and are setting the population up. It is not for nothing, of course, but on American instructions.

[Popandos]

. said the leader of the party Jaroslaw Kaczynski to the journalists of the Polish radio station RMF FM.

And I don’t understand anything else, for whom is this interview intended?
More or less sane understand that the Poles will not be able to resist the Russian army simply physically, even having armed all infants and old people.
It is clear that they will be thrown by their allies, there are still living witnesses of the alliance of Poland, Great Britain and France.
Then why arm yourself? It looks like someone has a good deal on this, and it is necessary to form the opinion of the payers of this process.

[poquello]

Quote: Popandos

More or less sane understand that the Poles will not be able to resist the Russian army simply physically, even having armed all infants and old people.

Well, the Georgians were convinced that Russia would not intercede, and if they did, they had already been taught how to beat her, so the Polish leadership might have confidence in its mission and would climb to Russia

Quote: Popandos

there are still living witnesses of the union of Poland, Great Britain and France.

it's different)

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: andr327

Where does the money come from? Zine
Saving on gas?

Why do you think Poland is destitute? In my opinion, this is pretty rash. At one time, I remember, it was called "EuroChina". I don't know how the Poles themselves perceived it - as a compliment or a mockery)

[Shket53]

I won't say that Pshekia is so poor ... but the Polish economic miracle is associated with the infusion of more than 90 billion of these Eurotugriks since the end of the 100s ... and it was such a full-fledged river ... but by 2020, this river turned into a tiny trickle, and after 2021, the EU cuts off this trickle too (the energy crisis is in the yard, alas, everyone will not survive) and the pseks are very angry about this. this is pure populism before the elections ... even Polish financiers do not know how to scold the Polish people for those wishes of their military (Patriots, F-35, Abrams, and even the modernization and the program of updating the Polish fleet) No matter how the pants burst. ..

[Illanatol]

Do you remember the size of Poland's public debt?
Or is debt an indicator of economic success?
There is a developed industry in Poland, but it is not Polish industry. A subsidiary of Western TNCs, however.

[poquello]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

At one time, I remember, it was called "EuroChina".

probably swollen a lot after drinking

[Ross xnumx]

This shows that Warsaw relies less on military assistance from the United States and more and more relies on its own capabilities.

Go and win something hopes? Who will be afraid of her in the European theater of alleged military operations? Are the Balts really friends?

[Egoza]

Quote: ROSS 42

Go and win something hopes?

Well, they set their sights on the memory. Considering the "lyuboff" of the Poles and Bandera, they will still "liberate" Lvov in tanks. And there are also documents hidden from grandparents on private property in those parts. Although at first they will be greeted with joy (even so, but they got through to Europe), but then it will be hot.

[poquello]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: ROSS 42

Go and win something hopes?

Well, they set their sights on the memory. Considering the "lyuboff" of the Poles and Bandera, they will still "liberate" Lvov in tanks. And there are also documents hidden from grandparents on private property in those parts. Although at first they will be greeted with joy (even so, but they got through to Europe), but then it will be hot.

Poles will try to occupy Ukraine when the masses in dill grow bolder and try to overthrow the Nazis

[Boa kaa]

Quote: poquello

Poles will try to occupy Ukraine when the masses in dill grow bolder and try to overthrow the Nazis

Most likely they will declare "historical rights" to the western territories of the Square, in 1939. ceded to the USSR. And the West will support them in this. And the hyena of Europe only needs this ...

[poquello]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: poquello

Poles will try to occupy Ukraine when the masses in dill grow bolder and try to overthrow the Nazis

Most likely they will declare "historical rights" to the western territories of the Square, in 1939. ceded to the USSR. And the West will support them in this. And the hyena of Europe only needs this ...

this is probably a matter of further negotiations, but the quality of Poland as a locomotive for drawing old Europe into a global war cannot be ignored either

[alex neym_2]

You are most likely right: the target is western Ukraine! At any opportunity, Poland will be there ...

[Cowbra]

This is how Stanislav and other Lembergs groan under the heel of a forelock occupier.

[svp67]

This shows that Warsaw relies less on military assistance from the United States and more and more relies on its own capabilities.

Yeah ... I understand that the F-35 planes, the Abrams tanks have already become purely Polish ...

[Kasym]

If we also take into account that Poland received 450 billion zlotys (106 billion euros) of European aid in 2014-2020, then rely on our own capabilities somehow ... And since Poland was admitted to the EU, this assistance is 3 times more ...
It's time to end with Russophobia and sanctions from Eastern Europe. You can answer by freezing energy supplies - let them take them wherever they want on the eve of winter ?! The Middle East and America will not be able to quickly replace these volumes. And then how will those Poles look at their authorities - INOSMI is full of discontent of EU citizens in relation to the energy policy of their authorities.
The only pity is that the authorities of the Russian Federation do not want to act with such methods. And it seems to me that a one-time, such action will have a result.

[SaLaR]

the next waiters for the Russian attack ...

[Bradley]

Poland is already the strongest country in Eastern Europe. At this rate, they will soon move the Western one.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Bradley

At this rate, they will soon move the Western one.

If we talk about the army, then in Poland it is already more powerful than the countries of Western Europe, in NATO only the United States and Turkey are inferior. Which is logical, NATO has a multiple advantage over us at sea and in the air, Poland's task is to keep the ground forces while the rest of the NATO countries deploy their air forces. Only the European NATO members have ~ 1500 fighters, against ours ~ 500. To them, you still need to add the US air armada. In AWACS and tankers, the situation is simply catastrophic.

[Crash]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Poland's task is to keep the ground forces

What to keep from? Will Russia seriously attack?

[strannik1985]

The United States is leading the situation in Europe to Cold War 2.0, Poland in this war wants to get the role of the FRG - the main military force of NATO (read the United States) in Europe. It's simple.

[motorized rifle]

Vooot! Hold! Especially if no one attacks, then: "- Well, sir, you set tasks! You can't do without an assistant!" (C) Ie. if no one is going to attack, then it is necessary to "radically strengthen the entire army."

[carstorm 11]

Yeah. And most importantly, only ground forces) The only way to start such a war is to destroy in the first 30 minutes all the structure capable of accepting, redeploying, or simply covering the base area. Roads, bridges, ports. Decision-making centers. Everything will be destroyed. The rest will just sit silently so that they do not fly. I do not understand why everything is constantly stubbornly ignored the fact that nuclear weapons will be used. Will. And immediately.

[rocket757]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Poland's task is to hold on to ground forces while the rest of the NATO countries deploy their air forces.

Are you going to attack Poland ??? When does it start? Will the tickets for this "circus" be auditioned?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: rocket757

Are you going to attack Poland ??? When does it start? Will the tickets for this "circus" be auditioned?

[rocket757]

What are the military affairs, the question ... about the "circus" was.

[Okolotochny]

What is our attack and capture potential? Can you count? The Armed Forces number about 1 million. Of these, the ground forces are about 500 thousand. Exactly those with which they seize the territory. We still have to leave. In total, about 350 thousand for the attack and capture of European countries. For the seizure of territories where more than 500 million people live 350 thousand ??? You are smart?

[Bradley]

If we talk about the army, then in Poland it is already more powerful than the countries of Western Europe, in NATO only the United States and Turkey are inferior. Which is logical, NATO has a multiple advantage over us at sea and in the air, Poland's task is to keep the ground forces while the rest of the NATO countries deploy their air forces. Only the European NATO members have ~ 1500 fighters, against ours ~ 500. To them, you still need to add the US air armada. In AWACS and tankers, the situation is simply catastrophic.

That is how it is. They have already moved Germany.

[rocket757]

And why does Germany need such a "circus", may I ask?

[Gardener91]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Poland's task is to hold on to ground forces while the rest of the NATO countries deploy their air forces.

Their logistics (NATO) is lame on all "fronts". This is where you need to beat first of all and cut off the supply on the living))

[Illanatol]

Only European NATO members have ~ 1500 fighters

"Katz offers sdatstsa!"

Paper data. The question is how many real combat-ready fighters do the European NATO members have.
At one time, even for Libya, this armada was hardly enough; nevertheless, the United States had to call for help.

[zadorin1974]

Good. I will not even laugh. If you have noticed, recently the positions of the Old Europeans and the Easterners are very different. Poland is trying to exert influence over the entire eastern bloc of the EU. But here's the problem. The Poles do not want to obey, but they still want to receive huge subsidies. Do you think the big five in Europe will like it? They will crush everyone. They have already set Warsaw in appearance from Brussels. Hopes for "from can to can" are ridiculous, without the EU the Poles are destitute without the right to rise.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

So there is no reason here - only ambition. But they sharpen a tooth for "oriental creams" .. I just think that there they will not only lose their teeth. They will pull out their jaws.

[rocket757]

When they are lousy delirium, it is understandable ... but where did those present here come from such reasoning ??? I do not understand.

[zadorin1974]

Well, what do you want Victor? Over the past ten years, VO has become a political platform. I am glad that there are representatives of different positions, but it is very annoying that some organisms come in to shit, to offend.

[rocket757]

So they would write, on their own behalf ...
To argue as if for the state ??? Why the clown to us that Poland surrendered ???

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

When they are lousy delirium, it is understandable ... but where did those present here come from such reasoning ??? I do not understand.

Have you taken the trouble to evaluate others? Would you like to present your assessment in an expanded form?

[rocket757]

A simple question - where and when in official statements and documents there was at least a hint of the desire / interest / intentions of the Russian state to carry out an attack on the countries of the NATO military bloc?
Find, show, then there will be a subject of conversation ... but otherwise, this is idle chatter.

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

A simple question - where and when in official statements and documents there was at least a hint of the desire / interest / intentions of the Russian state to carry out an attack on the countries of the NATO military bloc?

Judging by the arrow from the post to which I asked the question, you gave an unflattering assessment of the post of the master
Zadorin (zadorin1974 (Alexey Zadorin) Yesterday, 20:05), which did not contain any statements about the existence of Russian plans to attack NATO. The post was dedicated to Poland's confrontation with EU donor countries. Therefore, I had a question, what did you find delusional in him.

[rocket757]

To clarify, I spoke out about the reasoning

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Which is logical, NATO has a multiple advantage over us at sea and in the air, Poland's task is to keep the ground forces while the rest of NATO countries deploy their air forces

Those. what and how will happen WHEN / if we attack Poland.
This is what seems delusional to me.
And with my colleague Zadorin, I agree ... he understood that.

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

To clarify, I spoke out about the reasoning

Then VO is to blame for everything ... He has a buggy link placement system. I think in order to avoid it, it is better to quote from a post to which there is a desire to respond. This will make it clearer.

[rocket757]

When there is a dialogue between colleagues from the same point of view, there are fewer misunderstandings, and even then, the movement of posts can be very strange.
On a computer, more or less, you can figure it out, but on a tablet, alas, alas, a lot of things are not visible and not clear !!!
How it happened, and you have to figure it out.
It seems that there are no special inconveniences, the social circle is not so great and the opinion of a colleague can be predicted / guessed.
Communication with someone new, not a frequent interlocutor, is more difficult ... but that's the way it is.
You can always ask, clarify, it's not difficult.
Ask and you will be heard, I always answer when communication is normal
PS I never put cons to anyone ...

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

but on the tablet, alas, alas, a lot of things are not visible and not clear !!!

Yeah ... you're right. Mobile is not at all the same comfort as a desktop PC. I have been working with two monitors for fifteen years now, I have no idea how you can do the same on a phone or tablet ... You quickly get used to good things ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Bradley

At this rate, they will soon move the Western one.

Not moved. There the FRG has its own notions and "debts" for straightening pshek ... Everything will end quickly: it is only in the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog" that the Poles heroically smashed the Fritzes. But in fact, it was quite the opposite ...

[Aviator_]

it is only in the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog" the Poles heroically smashed the Fritzes.

There was another Polish film shown here - "Where is the General?" was called. There, too, the Poles were heroic.

[Metallurg_2]

And Poroshenko said that the Ukrainian army is the strongest in Europe ...

[rocket757]

It is strange, but who will pay for their Wishlist now, and then ... to maintain serious armed forces, it's not cheaper.
Will the geyropa take them on balance?

[Sergej1972]

They already have quite powerful armed forces.

[rocket757]

Sufficient for what? With whom they will be able to butt on equal terms?
With allies? It seems to make no sense, but who else can they run over?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

On the other hand, there are no aggressive states among its neighbors planning to invade this Eastern European country.

Poland is not going to defend, but to attack. As part of NATO, Poland hopes to profit from a piece of Russia, Belarus and even Ukraine.

It is clear that they will not attack tomorrow, but will wait for a convenient moment, that is, a period of weakening of Russia as a state.

[Prisoner]

And how long will they wait? Rather, they will die in anticipation.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

As long as it takes.

[motorized rifle]

Attack a country with the most powerful nuclear potential? Even tomorrow, even the day after tomorrow, even without nuclear weapons. To nie sztuka zabić kruka, ale sztuka dla żołnierza, goły dupoj zabić jeża!

[rocket757]

Yes, yes, their history does not teach anything ... they are not expected in the first, but what did they receive as a result? On the tinsel, but on the horns, and nothing else.
Restless, however.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, yes, their history does not teach anything ... they are not expected in the first, but what did they receive as a result?

As it teaches, the collapse of Russia in 1917 gave the Polish separatists a chance to tear off a piece from Russia and form their own Polish state, and then another piece as a result of the Polish-Soviet war, when we had a civil war, and then they wanted to snatch more with Hitler in an alliance. but he threw them.

They hope that with the departure of Putin and external pressure, Russia will weaken so much that something like 1917 or 1991 will repeat itself, and then they will have a chance.

That's why Poland buys thousands of armored personnel carriers, hundreds of tanks, air defense, fighters and everything else.

They will not stick their heads alone, but it is easy to be part of NATO and those who sympathize with them.

And they want to ignore the nuclear potential of Russia by the multilevel missile defense system and by the fact that the first strike will be behind them.

[rocket757]

A specific question .... WHAT THEY CAN DO IT THEMSELVES?
A strong, modern, well-equipped army is VERY EXPENSIVE, not only to create one, but also to maintain high combat readiness is not at all cheaper.
If they look back and collect all the lessons of history, of which there are many, many, then ... and what does not shine for them, in a positive sense, but they will find a lot of adventure on their own.

[Aviator_]

It is clear that they will not attack tomorrow, but will wait for a convenient moment,

After this "convenient moment" there will be the fourth partition of Poland.

[Metallurg_2]

Fifth. It was divided for the fourth time in 1939. But everything is not enough for pshek.

[poquello]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

On the other hand, there are no aggressive states among its neighbors planning to invade this Eastern European country.

Poland is not going to defend, but to attack. As part of NATO, Poland hopes to profit from a piece of Russia, Belarus and even Ukraine.

It is clear that they will not attack tomorrow, but will wait for a convenient moment, that is, a period of weakening of Russia as a state.

Poland is arming the United States, and the United States has strong time limits, and in view of the fact that

Quote: rocket757

A strong, modern, well-equipped army is VERY EXPENSIVE

"This is" w-w-w "- for a reason"

[Prisoner]

What's the point? If anything, according to tradition, the government will be dumped in England, and the lower classes will either be taken prisoner, or the Red Army.

[rocket757]

No, no, they were not taken to the Red Army ... somewhat for balance, but not inside.

[hagen]

Quote: rocket757

No, no, they were not taken to the Red Army ... somewhat for balance, but not inside.

The 33rd Army of General Gordov included the 1st Polish Division and took part in battles with units of the 337th Infantry Division of the Wehrmacht. And then the 1st Polish Army was part of the troops of the 1st Belorussian Front. Individually, ethnic Poles were recruited to the KA on a general basis if they had USSR citizenship. There were those too.

[rocket757]

About the citizens of the USSR, there are no questions, on a general basis.
National units consisting of citizens of other states ... participated and obeyed the Soviet command, BUT, these were not parts of the spacecraft.
By the way, the Germans did not consider them as such ...

[Sergej1972]

In the Polish units there were also citizens of the USSR, mainly officers sent there. Both Polish and Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian origin.

[Borisych]

We would sit quietly, do our business, study history. The welfare of old women was raised, the rabies were driven away, why not occupation? So it pulls them on a military track. After all, they will rake out this rail along the landlord's hara completely, because they are all sick of them. And the neighbors and who are away.

[Baron pardus]

To be honest, the Poles are great.
a) Do not allow any subsimians who will only suck the welfer, rape, rob and trade in drugs with cries of "respecting their original customs"
b) Service in the Army of civilian slugs and mumbles makes something vaguely human-like. The brains are set at a time.
c) IF (and specifically IF), the Poles will develop or will be transferred to modern technologies - this is work for research institutes and factories. Possibly with access to the international market. Immediately after the ban on the import of Russian weapons and ammunition, we already have:
a) Mesco ammunition is not vile (sorry for the pun). And very good
b) Kalashnikov assault rifles. WBP Wytwórnia Broni Jacek Popiński. In Calibers 5.56 and 7.62x39. Quite good, according to reviews, they are no worse than Russian Saigas. Moreover, Beryl was imported to the USA some time ago. And the reviews were very good too. In terms of quality, it was not inferior at all to the Bulgarian and Saigas. The price was cheaper than Bulgarian, but more expensive than Saig.

So if the Poles modify and modernize their military-industrial complex - great. If they introduce and receive new technologies - GOOD MEN. If more guys are called into the Army - GOOD MEN. In the Army, liberalism is kicked out of the boshek perfectly well. And what they say "Greater Poland from Sea to Sea" is CORRECT. It is RIGHT that the Pole wants the greatness of his Poland, that the German wants to restore the greatness of his Germany, that the Spaniard wants to restore the greatness of Spain, and the Briton is rooting for Britain. This is normal.

So the Poles are great.

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

So the Poles are great.

exactly, exactly, this is some kind of wrong story)

[Baron pardus]

If at first you don't succeed try and try again. :-) Water wears a stone. But I sincerely hope that the Poles will remember the "Dirty Nezalezhnyk" and the Volyn massacre and Khmelnytsky. I sincerely hope.

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

If at first you don't succeed try and try again.

)))))))))))) Forev rake

[Baron pardus]

v Poland has something that neither Russia nor the United States has - national identity, national culture, national IDEOLOGY. Moreover, the Catholic faith is a huge part of this identity. They do not care about "tolerance", "multiculturalism", for example, they quite logically ask - if you do not want to become a Pole and value your "original and unique" identity - what for are you coming here - you DO NOT PLACE here. I am very sorry that the POLES are asking this question, but the Russians and Americans are not. I think that they othapayut their territories from Ukraine back. Which I will be very happy about. I think they will not trample on the Czechs, but if something is bad somewhere, they will take it - they will take it absolutely right.
When there is one people, one culture, one language in a country, this is a great dignity of the country. It is solidity, stability and strength.
And what about the Forev rake ... well, someone wanted to return to capitalism, and openly declares at the state levels that their goal is the Russia of Nicholas 2nd. So you can not talk about the rake to the Poles. We are all living in a world of change now. As in the Chinese curse, moreover, in a crazy world of change. We have already stocked up on ammunition, medicines, other necessary things and popcorn.

[Aviator_]

When there is one people, one culture, one language in a country, this is a great dignity of the country. It is solidity, stability and strength.

This was especially impressive in 1939.

[Baron pardus]

Internationalism has worked great. And in Austria - Hungary, and in the Russian Empire, and especially brightly in the USSR, and even brighter in the Caucasian and Central Asian republics. It worked great. And how internationalism works in England, Germany and France, it works great when blacks and Arabs kill, rob, sit on a welfer, sell drugs and rape white young girls. Internationalism works great. It's not about the shape of the nose, or the color of the eyes, but about the mentality, culture and set of values. If you want to remain a "distinctive but proud people", it's great - sit in your shit, but don't go to civilized countries.

[Aviator_]

Internationalism has worked great.

What kind of internationalism in Poland in 1939? Don't jump off the topic.

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

if you don't want to become a Pole and value your "distinctive and unique" identity - what for are you coming here - you don't belong here. I am very sorry that the POLES are asking this question, but the Russians and Americans are not.

national chauvinism, coupled with the liberation of living space, the restoration of power, indisputable power - is it even familiar, another Adolfik? But no, POOR Poland does not have money for power and an army - therefore, it is molded by third-party players.

Quote: Baron Pardus

well, someone wanted to return to capitalism

why go back, we are in it now, it suits me

[avg avg]

And what they say "Greater Poland from Sea to Sea" is CORRECT. It is RIGHT that the Pole wants the greatness of his Poland, that the German wants to restore the greatness of his Germany, that the Spaniard wants to restore the greatness of Spain, and the Briton is rooting for Britain. This is normal.

These Wishlist and statements are wrong only in one case: If Russians talk about greatness! For this is aggression and Great Russian chauvinism! :)

[Baron pardus]

I will answer you with the words of the Great Bismarck. "It is absolutely normal and natural that for a German, the interests of Germany are first of all, and for a Frenchman, the interests of France, and for a Russian, the interests of Russia. If this is not so, then you have a TRAITOR." I SUPPORT the motto "Russia for Russians" (well, or for those who want to become such in culture, behavior and mentality). It doesn't matter what shape your nose is or what color your eyes or hair are. The greatest Russian of all times and peoples is the hunch-nosed, dark-eyed Stalin. However, I will not be mistaken if I call Stalin one of the greatest people of all times and peoples.

[Metallurg_2]

and the valiant authorities - a stick for landing under Article 282. And someone and another star on the shoulder strap.

[Illanatol]

It is RIGHT that the Pole wants greatness for his Poland ... This is NORMAL.

This normally ended with the next partition of Poland.
What matters is not empty wishlist-dreamers, but real possibilities. If your gut is thin, sit in the corner and don't shine like a Swede ...

[Metallurg_2]

Experience shows that Poland was great only when a foreigner was at the head of Poland. Stefan Batory (Hungarian), Jan Sobieski (Lithuanian), for example. As soon as an ethnic Pole was at the head of Poland, Poland very soon slipped into a cesspool.

[Baron pardus]

The same can be said about Russia :-) Catherine the Great is a German. Peter the Great, Russian by birth, but raised in the German settlement - a German heart in a Russian body. Stalin - Georgian. So it works the same.

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

The same can be said about Russia :-) Catherine the Great is a German. Peter the Great, Russian by birth, but raised in the German settlement - a German heart in a Russian body. Stalin - Georgian. So it works the same.

I am, natural)

[Baron pardus]

Yeah, but I don’t see that Putin has restored the Country within the borders of 1945. Moreover, I do not see the welfare of the people improving. Either science, medicine, education, production or agriculture was strengthened, grew and developed. Russia needs someone like Lukashenko or President Xi. And so - oligarchy, semi-feudal oligarchy and corruption, just like in Ukraine.

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

Yeah, but I don’t see that Putin has restored the Country within the borders of 1945. Moreover, I do not see the welfare of the people improving. Either science, medicine, education, production or agriculture was strengthened, grew and developed. Russia needs someone like Lukashenko or President Xi. And so - oligarchy, semi-feudal oligarchy and corruption, just like in Ukraine.

Did they put you like a witness? or throw slogans from an armored car?

[Baron pardus]

Well, since you yourself do not see the obvious, then who should show you the same? I can push a speech from an armored car. I can from the tank. I can from the balcony. Lenin, and others as well, also wrote exposing articles from across the hill. So why are they allowed to do this. Lenin, Herzen and I ... Excellent bunch, don't you think? I am talented, modest and I have been accustomed to perform on stage with reports from childhood. He was a political informer throughout the school and burned it with a verb. I was also a Komsomol member and a pioneer activist. So Lenin, Herzin and I ... Great company ... The haberdasher and the cardinal are strength. :-)

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

I was also a Komsomol member and a pioneer activist.

kochumai, I was a member of the Komsomol three times!

[Baron pardus]

Opana. But the word "kochumai" I have not heard for a long time. :-) "I RECOGNIZE BROTHER KOLYA !!!". Listen, are you from Kiev too? Is your dad a musician too? The word "kochumai" I am nowhere except in the companies of musicians (and Dad was there all the time hanging out in the USSR, playing in the Kiev Chamber, but adored jazz).

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

Opana. But the word "kochumai" I have not heard for a long time. :-) "I RECOGNIZE BROTHER KOLYA !!!". Listen, are you from Kiev too?

past, I have never been in Kiev, the word is yes musical, but not by the Kiev Chamber alone, it means that I walked through the Soviet philharmonic halls)

[Baron pardus]

Class, it's just nice to hear a word that is almost from childhood. I remember we always had companies. The musicians, their wives, walked, boozed, smoke with a rocker. And I sat listening, twisting on my mustache. Sometimes he even joined them to play King (if they were all completely drunk). Oh, there were times in the USSR. To whom did all this interfere. So I would have been.

[poquello]

Quote: Baron Pardus

Class, it's just nice to hear a word that is almost from childhood. I remember we always had companies. The musicians, their wives, walked, boozed, smoke with a rocker. And I sat listening, twisting on my mustache. Even sometimes joined them to play King

bullet in preference

Quote: Baron Pardus

Oh, there were times in the USSR. To whom did all this interfere.

"Who is he? Private engineer. What kind of life is he? In the morning to work, in the evening from work, at home his wife, snotty children. Well, he goes to the theater, well, he will go to a sanatorium in Yalta. Mortal anguish!"
And you? You're a thief! Good luck gentleman! Stole it, drank it in jail. Stole it, drank it in jail. Romance! "))))
uh, it's like the edges of one Soviet glass, but on the back there is an artistic council, you don't take women to the hotel, the struggle for peace)))) conscience cap

[Baron pardus]

They were not allowed into the bullet, it was small. And when they all got hooked, they played King, he is easier, then I was allowed to play. Backgammon was also played. And they talked mostly about music. They copied all sorts of songs on the woman's tape recorders, gossiped. anecdotes hounded. True, there were few political ones. My grandfather is a communist, and even a lieutenant colonel of the border troops. :-). So they respected and kept quiet.

I got Black Sabbath and Judas Priest records at one such party that happened right after my birthday. Gift for the 12th anniversary. It was a brain removal. Sat with a dictionary translating, going crazy with the voices of Ozzy and Rob. Well, when I translated everything, my brain took it out all the more :-).

[Metallurg_2]

Well, don't tell me: Ivan the Great, Ivan the Terrible.

[syndicalist]

Is there now at least one state in the world that has officially announced its intention to weaken its army?

[75 Sergey]

Poland is an aggressor, a threat to the peaceful countries of Europe and democracy, where are the UN, OSCE and others like them looking?
Have we made a strong protest?

[zenion]

Be sure to put wings on everything. That would be right there, or there.

[Sidor the Fierce]

Power? Fuck to the ass to please!

[askort154]

This shows that Warsaw relies less on military assistance from the United States and more and more relies on its own capabilities.

In my opinion, the opposite is true. The USA sees that Old Europe is beginning to "become disillusioned with their friendship", especially the leading countries - Germany and France (England left the EU). So they decided to make Poland an Anglo-Saxon "fist" in Europe, which Poland has been dreaming of from the cradle. In addition, Poland has already successfully organized a Russophobic serpentarium around itself on the instructions of the same Anglo-Saxons.
"Hyena in Europe" (Churchill) will still bring a lot of problems.

[sen]

According to the leadership of the Law and Justice Party (PiS), Poland intends to radically increase its military power.

What shishi? They have graters with the European Union, they can cut off the oxygen. After the launch of the SP-2, they can reduce the transit of gas through Poland.

[Sergey3]

They are preparing to divide Ukraine; it has not long left for it. The best way to solve the problems of Ukraine is to destroy it as a state. The east and center of Ukraine will go to Russia, the west will go to Poland. They know this in Poland, so they are preparing.

[Baron pardus]

I think the Romanians and Hungarians grab a piece. It would be nice if the Romanians, Hungarians and Poles beat each other well for the "Ukrainian" lands.

[Sergey3]

And what for us, let them kill each other on the way.

[Baron pardus]

By and large, if Hungary, Poland and Romania grapple with Ukraine, tear off pieces from it, and then grapple with each other, then it seems to me that it will be very beneficial for Russia, because it will inflict a rather sickly blow on NATO and the European Union. Especially if Turkey gets involved in the fun (this is always the case). Of course, my assumption is extremely unlikely and overly optimistic, but there is hope.

[Sergey3]

Those. you are right here, Poland is not arming against Russia, but against Hungary and Romania, in order to be able to grab the largest piece of Ukraine.

[Baron pardus]

Let's take a look. If the Poles really grapple with Hungary and Romania, it will be a colossal blow to NATO and the European Union, and if Russia plays its cards correctly, it will regain most of Ukraine. A strong European Union is NOT PROFITABLE for the USA, it is not profitable at all.